Article 11042 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!ozemail!news.mel.aone.net.au!newsfeed-in.aone.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!newshost.carno.net.au!slipr38.anu.edu.au!user From: crowther@rsc.anu.edu.au (Jeff) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey freezes, is it pure? Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:32:08 +1000 Organization: Bad at Best Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <886501799.1050411013@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.148.102 X-Wisdom: I need a holiday Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11042 In article <886501799.1050411013@dejanews.com>, aqeel_anwar@hotmail.com wrote: |> I have bought honey from a local farm. It has frozen. The normal |> temperature here is less than 10C. Some body said that pure honey does |> not freez. Can anybody tell me whether this statement is true or not. |> Also is there any other procedure to test the purity of honey? Dear Aqeel Anwar I'm not a honey expert but......I put honey onto ice-cream sometimes (very nice) and the honey does not freeze. Temperature should be around -15C I guess as the freezer is at -20C. Honey gets very viscous but not frozen. Is your honey frozen or has it just crystallised ?? -- Who knows what the signature says so many people use my computer Article 11043 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "O.Y." Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: hello everybody Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:17:54 -0800 Organization: METU Lines: 4 Message-ID: <34D8DB02.363D@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr> Reply-To: e109352@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr NNTP-Posting-Host: pc16.eee.metu.edu.tr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!newsfeed.wizvax.net!ulowell.uml.edu!news.tacom.army.mil!news.he.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.ulak.net.tr!news.metu.edu.tr!aykute Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11043 I am from Turkiye and Iam looking for beeswax manufactures.I search it in yahoo but almost all of the results is about beeswax candles.but i want beeswax to use in hive anybody can you give me an address including this info or infos itselves Article 11044 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!xs4all!gate.news.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!news.kpn.com!hdxf08.telecom.ptt.nl!usenet From: "hans-peter sloot" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: hello everybody Date: 4 Feb 1998 12:29:58 GMT Organization: PTT Telecom B.V. Informatievoorziening en Automatisering Telecom Message-ID: <01bd3168$a16f55f0$10d80791@Hans-Peter> References: <34D8DB02.363D@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.7.216.16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 22 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11044 Here is an address in Germany: I live in The Netherlands and ordered some articles from them. They send it via post or parcel delivery. You can contact them and order a catalog. Graze Katalog 97/98 Postfach 2107 D 71370 Weinstadt tel.: 00 49 7151 969230 fax: 00 49 7151 969233 O.Y. wrote in article <34D8DB02.363D@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr>... > I am from Turkiye and Iam looking for beeswax manufactures.I search it > in yahoo but almost all of the results is about beeswax candles.but i > want beeswax to use in hive > anybody can you give me an address including this info or infos itselves > Article 11045 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: tomas mozer Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: beekeeping in dominica,w.i. Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:08:00 -0800 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: <34D85A20.18D3@juno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 26206@205.216.79.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-BSNET (Win16; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11045 going to dominica next week to participate in a youth beekeeping training...any apicultural information/contacts would bee most appreciated! Article 11046 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: solar wax melter plans Date: 4 Feb 1998 14:54:38 GMT Lines: 32 Message-ID: <19980204145400.JAA07754@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bd2eac$25224f20$6fbd16d0@chuck> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11046 In article <01bd2eac$25224f20$6fbd16d0@chuck>, "Mike Shadow" writes: >I'm interested in obtaining a set of plans to build a solar wax melter. >If any fellow beekeepers have a set, or know where I can buy a set, or even >if you have any ideas you'd like to share I sure would appreciate it E-mail >me or post it here. You'll swallow hard, when you get the price on new glass, or worse, plexiglass. For a cheap, cheap melter, check with a local contractor or builders' salvage yard for windows. If you can get a double glazed one, it's better for northern locations, though here in the south, it's not necessary, except maybe in winter. Then build your box to fit. That will be fine for hobby use. I've been puttering with "the mother of all wax melters," which I hope to (someday) finish and get into production. The ones I've used in the past are too small for any real production. I have a 4 x 10 foot trailer. With the tongue down, it's at a good angle for the sun. I can easily move it by hand, as it is well balanced....... Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 11047 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey freezes, is it pure? Date: 4 Feb 1998 14:54:38 GMT Lines: 54 Message-ID: <19980204145401.JAA26480@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <886501799.1050411013@dejanews.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11047 In article <886501799.1050411013@dejanews.com>, aqeel_anwar@hotmail.com writes: >I have bought honey from a local farm. It has frozen. The normal temperature >here is less than 10C. Some body said that pure honey does not freez. Can >anybody tell me whether this statement is true or not. Also is there any >other procedure to test the purity of honey? Your comment puzzles me. I suspect you mean crystallization. Raw honey will crystallize, because it is a supersaturated solution. Some honeys crystallize rapidly, some take years, but all raw honey will eventually, when kept in a cool place. The speed of crystallization depends on the ratio of sugars, which depends on the blossoms the bees got their nectar from. It also depends on temperature. If kept at 70 degrees F, crystallization will be slow. If kept at 50, it will be rapid. If kept at freezing or below, it won't crystallize, at least for a very long time. We restore crystallized honey to liquid in a warm box at 105 F for 12-24 hours. This all refers to raw honey. Supermarket honey is cooked and pressure filtered with diatomacious (not sure about that spelling) earth through very fine filters to remove every trace of pollen and beeswax. Any particle can become a nucleus for sugar crystals to start forming. Supermarket honey can stay on the shelf for many months, even years without crystallization. The health food folks says this treatment also ruins honey. There is a lot of folklore about this. There is a common myth around that honey that crystallizes has been adulterated with sugar. On the other hand there is another myth that honey that does NOT crystallize is adulterated because corn syrup will not crystallize..... which it will. We replace all honey that crystallizes on our seller's shelves. My wife mentioned this in a sales pitch to a produce stand clerk and she sniffed: "(Your competor's) honey doesn't ever crystallize." At the next produce stand my wife found a shelf full of jars of (our competitor's) honey all set up solid. She bought one and drove back to the first stand, where she presented it as a gift to the clerk. In itself, the fact that honey crystallizes, doesn't tell you much, perhaps only a bit about its storage history. Most produce stands are unheated or only partly heated, so crystallized honey is common in the winter here. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 11048 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!Aladdin!aladdin.net!ns2.aladdin.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!nildram!pm1-198.dial.nildram.co.uk From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Package Bees in So Cal Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 09:26:42 -0000 Organization: Nildram Ltd Lines: 23 Message-ID: <34d834f8.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> References: <34d6c9cb.7152295@news2.pe.net> <34d76835.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> <34D7A054.A90BA4A7@ne.mediaone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooby.nildram.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11048 Kathy Hough wrote in message <34D7A054.A90BA4A7@ne.mediaone.net>... >Kidney John, >'Package bees' are simply a box of workers (sometimes with drones) >usually sold with a queen--though one can buy a package of just workers. >Packages are sold by weight with the most common size being 3 pound (in >my experience) and sizes ranging from 2 to 5 pounds. This method of >purchasing bees is frequently recommended to beginner beekeepers in our >area so that they can learn some of the fundamentals of beekeeping >before the possibility of being exposed to brood diseases that one might >'inherit' with the purchase of nucleus colonies. > >Kathy > Thanks. So if I've got this right, they are bees, with no 'frames', whereas a 'nuc' comes on frames, with brood............ Kidney John gnimmelf@nildramnilspam.co.uk Remove to reply All Spam Will Be Summarily Deleted! Article 11049 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: peter.hutton@amigabee.org.uk (Peter Hutton) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.186.0.13!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!peter.hutton Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ban on Bee Cures Message-ID: <886604028@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 19:10:48 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 437 MSGID: 240:244/116 29f0db81 REPLY: 240:44/0 3eaa4d92 PID: FDAPX/w 1.12a UnReg(200) Lines: 72 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11049 >>L L> Hi all, >> L> An article in the February issue of Scottish Beekeeper which >> L> was taken from the Sunday Telegraph 30/11/97 talks about the >> L> new regulation "Statutory Instrument No. 1729" which in >> effect L> bans all chemical Varroa treatments except Bayvarol. >> The L> punishment for using any unlicensed chemicals being a >> fine up L> to £5000. >> L> I think that this will make it unlawful to use any of the >> acids, volatile >> L> substances and even mineral oil unless they are licensed. >> In L> Britain. I suppose it is a good idea in that if anything >> goes L> wrong then there is only >> L> one thing to blame, Bayvarol, but what happens when the mites become >> L> resistant to this chemical. Will Bayer come to our aid?? -- >> L> Harry >> L> Scotland >> >> L> Knitwear Web site: >> L> http://freespace.virgin.net/luichart.woollens/ >>Hallo Harry, >>Dont worry you'll be alright soon as you elect your new >>Parliament, you will be able to write your own laws, you better >>polish up your election address now. It;s us Poor ***** down >>here that have to worry especially as the Fluvalinate resistant >>Varro are lining up along the French and Belgian coastline just >>awaiting their transport over. Actually we may already have our >>own resistant mites down here already. >> >>You are quite right about this stupid legislation and the fact >>that it is illegal to treat withanything other than Bayvarol, I >>have twenty litres of formic acid still and i find it very >>effective. >> >>We seem to employ Ostriches in Maff these days, not only do they >>put their heads underground when it comes to making decisions >>but they are hobbled as well. >> >>Weel what are you going to do??? Write to your MP, MEP, Minister >>of Agricuture Dr. Jack (Dolittle) Cunningham and the Veterinary >>Medicines Directorate, and >>lastly Petition the European Parliament. I'll send you a mail shortly with >>more information. >> >>Regards from the Garden of England (devoid of Bees and mites, >>all gone North) peter.hutton@btinternet.com W> Hi, W> It may be of interest to you guys that in the recent copy of W> the Welsh Beekeeper, there is an article about a new company W> called Vita (Europe Ltd.). Who have the rights to Novartis W> products eg:- Apistan, Apitol, Folbex and Apigard. They expect W> to get U.K. approval for Apistan early this year. They can be W> contacted on 01256 473177. W> Regards John Widgery, W> -- W> Woodside Electronics Dr. Max Watkins has written in B-Beel.int on this subject, he is one of the two directors who bought out the rights from his former employers Novartis. He in contactable on the following address max.watkins@vita.demon.co.uk I believe that it should be sufficient to register a product in one EU Country only for it to be available in all the others without further registration provided the registration procedures and information is acceptable to all the rest of the EU. The de Bruyere case in the Court of Justice in Luxemburg did EU beekeepers no favours and that is the problem that we should now address by petitioning the EU Parliament for a change in regulations covering Beekeeping medicaments. Greetings from the Garedn of England Peter Hutton --- * Origin: Kent Beekeeper Beenet Point (240:244/116) Article 11050 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: peter.hutton@amigabee.org.uk (Peter Hutton) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.186.0.13!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!peter.hutton Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ban on Bee Cures Message-ID: <886604027@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:33:28 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 437 MSGID: 240:244/116 29f04f93 REPLY: 240:44/0 0392b1d1 PID: FDAPX/w 1.12a UnReg(200) Lines: 42 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11050 Francis Cardin wrote, C> Formic acid being a constituent component of honey it may not C> fall under the term 'chemical Varroa treatments' legally C> speaking. C> Peace! C> Francis C> Peter Hutton schrieb im Beitrag C> <886141948@amigabee.org.uk>... >> Harry wrote >> L L> Hi all, >> L> An article in the February issue of Scottish Beekeeper which >> L> was taken from the Sunday Telegraph 30/11/97 talks about the >> L> new regulation "Statutory Instrument No. 1729" which in effect >> L> bans all chemical Varroa treatments except Bayvarol. The >> L> punishment for using any unlicensed chemicals being a fine up >> L> to £5000. Thanks for the Mail Francis, I use formic acid already as an alternative to Bayvarol, at the time of writing the UK Government Ministry of Agriculture has drafted an EU directive into Statute without consultation with the Beekeeping Industry both hobby and commercial, the consequences of which strictly speaking make it illegal for use any unregistered chemical for combating Varroa. In this County, Kent, 90% of bee colonies were lost to Varroa and it's effect Winter of 95/96. Over 30% of Beekeepers have given up and more will follow. You will have read of the BSE problems with cattle (Rindetiere) in the UK, From that fiasco you can imagine how beekeeping is treated, we are a minority and are treated as insignificant cranks, our EU funding will be used solely by the Ministry to offset it's own costs and we are not well enough organised to be heard. Beekeeepers in England are somewhat solitary people, were we to better communicate with each other then we would get somewhere. Merci pour votre lettre. Danke fuer deiner Brief. Greetings from the Garden of England Peter Hutton --- * Origin: Kent Beekeeper Beenet Point (240:244/116) Article 11051 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!tomsp8.demon.co.uk!tom From: Tom Speight Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ban on Bee Cures Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:32:50 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <886604027@amigabee.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk [194.222.124.95] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a Lines: 19 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11051 To all UK beekeepers. Today I saw a copy of a letter from Jeff Rooker,MP in which he states ".....for the sort of non-medicinal products sometimes used by beekeepers. The Residues Regulations would prohibit the administration of such products only where, if transmitted to an animal product, it would he likely to be harmful to human health. Thus, if the product is not harmful, it can be administered...." As Peter Hutton says in another posting, the de Bruyere case was a catastrophe for us and is quoted in the letter. There's more to it, and when I get the my homepage page up and working again, I will reveal more. Watch this space. -- Tom Speight South Lakes Cumbria UK Article 11052 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.168.4.5!newsfeed.cableol.net!not-for-mail From: "Harry Goudie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ban on Bee Cures Date: 4 Feb 1998 19:30:30 GMT Organization: Luichart Woollens Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bd31a3$e09c1e80$LocalHost@default> References: <886141948@amigabee.org.uk> <01bd3015$18be19c0$4b80a19d@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.168.60.28 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11052 francis wrote in article <01bd3015$18be19c0$4b80a19d@default>... > Formic acid being a constituent component of honey it may not fall under > the term 'chemical Varroa treatments' legally speaking. > > Peace! > Francis Hi Francis and "Peace" to you as well, You have hit the nail on the head. This is exactly the problem with this new legislation. All these "Natural" substances are unlikely to be licensed since they cannot be patented and it would cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to license them. The legislation seems to be that, "If it is licensed then it is OK" - "If not then it is illegal" Where do you go to find out what is licensed?? Is sugar licensed??? -- Harry Scotland Knitwear Web site: http://freespace.virgin.net/luichart.woollens/ Article 11053 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Gary L. Bradshaw" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Package Bees in So Cal Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:42:40 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6baquu$l8f@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <34d6c9cb.7152295@news2.pe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.155.154 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11053 Hi Jim The biggest breeders out your way are in Texas but there must be some guys in CA. Call the Department of Agriculture, they will have a list or at least a local contact. Gary (GBee) gbees@worldnet.att.net Jim Rasmussen wrote in message <34d6c9cb.7152295@news2.pe.net>... >Can anyone give me the address of a supplier of package bees in >southern CA? I am about 35 miles west of Palm Springs. > >Thanks....Jim. >Jim Rasmussen >Email: JamesR@pe.net >Idyllwild CA 92549 > Article 11054 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.wli.net!pln!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 From: "C.A. Magolda" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Killer bees: what is the truth? Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 16:22:54 -0800 Organization: none Lines: 49 Message-ID: <34D9065E.31BA@mail.intrlink.com> References: <01bd2c8b$ef591170$10d80791@Hans-Peter> Reply-To: cmagolda@mail.intrlink.com NNTP-Posting-Host: p-408.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; U) To: hans-peter sloot Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11054 hans-peter sloot wrote: > > One of our national TV stations is going to show an American > documentary about the spread of the Africanize bee over the > two American continents. > > The announcement says that hundreds of people are yearly killed > by bees. Bees make more victims than any other kind of insect? > > Now I would like to know the truth! ( I am a hobby beekeeper in > The Netherlands, Europe and do not believe it) > However killer bees are not here in Europe many people start > talking about killer bees when you tell that you keep bees. > > How bad is the situation on both continents? > How many people are killed by these bees? > > I would like to have this information so that I can tell te truth to > others. > > Please send a copy of you reaction to my email address too! > > -- > Name :H.G.Sloot > Phone :+31-50-5855954 > E mail :H.G.Sloot@PTT-Telecom.NL > DISCLAIMER:This statement is not an official statement from, nor > does it represent an official position of, PTT Telecom BV. Hi Hans. Might I be so bold as to suggest you visit our website . We manufacture an emergency-use insect veil, and a portion of the website is dedicated to AHB. The pages concerning the AHB is an effort gather the latest information and report facts. We don't believe sensationalism helps anyone. Most of our maps have been recently updated. We also search the web daily for AHB related stories. Our sources report a total of 6 deaths attributed to AHB in the US since late 1990, the time of the first occurrence of Africanized bees (via land migration) in the US. The website also includes a "Chronology of Events" and recent AHB stories reported in the press. Give it a look-over. Best Regards, Charles Magolda Article 11055 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.texas.net!nntp.flash.net!news.airnews.net!cabal11.airnews.net!thereisnocabal!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: mark rayner Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Africanized Honeybee Lecture in Texas Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 19:53:13 -0600 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <8F95780AE430AAE6.C608671FF3C7E775.7A4E7408CC195BAB@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <34D91B89.48DB@airmail.net> Reply-To: mer2@airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Feb 4 19:54:48 1998 NNTP-Posting-Host: dto03-22.ppp.iadfw.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11055 PRESS RELEASE February 2, 1998 USDA RESEARCHER TO DISCUSS TEXAS MIGRATION OF AFRICANIZED HONEYBEES William L. Rubink, PH.D. Research Entomologist for the USDA Honeybee Research Laboratory in Weslaco, TX, will be the featured speaker at the next meeting of the Trinity Valley Beekeepers Association in Irving, TX. The free program, open to the general public, will be held 7:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m., Friday, February 13 at 1930 Hinton Drive, Irving, TX. Dr. Rubink will discuss the northward migration of Africanized honeybees into Texas. Africanized honeybees began migrating from South America during the 1950s and were first detected in the United States near Brownsville, TX in October, 1990. The Honeybee Research Laboratory, In Weslaco, is developing baseline data on the ecology, morphology, behavior and swarming activities of wild bee populations in Northeast Mexico and south Texas. The data collected by the laboratory will enable scientists to detect and quantify changes that occur in the wild bee populations when stressed by the presence of Africanized honeybees. There are currently 94 Texas counties under state quarantine, including Johnson and Ellis counties. The state quarantine allows beekeepers to move bee hives within but not out of the quarantined zones in an effort to prevent further spread of Africanized honeybees. Meetings of the Trinity Valley Beekeepers Association are held at the Union Hall located at 1930 Hinton, Irving, Texas on the 2nd Friday of even numbered months at 7:30 p.m. Article 11056 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.clark.net!209.130.129.134!node2.frontiernet.net!node17.frontiernet.net!not-for-mail From: "Jack Griffes (spamblocked)" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: To requeen or not to requeen? Date: 5 Feb 1998 05:02:38 GMT Organization: Frontier Internet Rochester N.Y. (716)-777-SURF Lines: 86 Message-ID: <01bd31f2$ecfea540$359182d1@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <886452482.1207042057@dejanews.com> <01bd3044$36a786e0$9e9182d1@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> <886530339.2115698706@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: as5200-1-39.brk.mi.frontiernet.net X-Complaints-To: abuse@frontiernet.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11056 kejones@ptdcs2.intel.com wrote in article <886530339.2115698706@dejanews.com>... > In article <01bd3044$36a786e0$9e9182d1@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com>, "Jack > Griffes (spamblocked)" wrote: > > > Young vigorous queens are a critical > > part of continuing success IMO. > > Jack, > > Thanks for the advice. One question, though: You said: > > >Young vigorous queens are a critical > >part of continuing success IMO. > > Now, I understand young, and I guess in bee terms, my queen is no longer > young. She may or may not be - you flatly do NOT know unless she is marked and/or clipped OR is a completely different color pattern than the one you put in. Thus the value of having marked queens (if you have time to look for them OR need to know for a breeding program). > But how do you define vigorous? by the amount of high quality brood she produces - even if she is young if she ain't also vigorous she gets permanent early retirement via execution (life as a honeybee queen is rough - produce or die - and the retirement plan just don't exist) >I guess I was thinking that, > since this queen produced (last year) a brood that drew 40 (medium) > frames of comb and 135 pounds of honey, she at least qualified as > 'vigorous'. But I take it you're saying that last year's results are no > guarantee of this year's, and that an unproven young queen would be > better than an old queen with excellent previous results? IF the queen exceeded her yard's per colony production average significantly and ALSO fit the other criterion we would take her to a test yard as potential breeding stock. Otherwise she would get a protected queen cell in her colony during a flow with about 60-80% odds of a "forced supersedure occuring WITHOUT us even looking for her. IF we had no interest in breeding better bees we would just plant cells all around and skip with the extra work of testing potential breeding stock or even identifying it. Why? Everything has a life expectancy - would you rather wait until the old thing is failing and your colony is dwindling? OR would you rather look at her as a egg producer on the "one good year and you are out" plan? I suspect it depends on your objective. IF your objective is to produce honey which would you choose? IF your objective is breeding better bees which would you choose? The end objective determines the choice and it won't be the same in every instance. -- Jack Griffes Onsted, MI USA e-mail: jack_griffes at hotmail.com Web site: http://members.tripod.com/~Griffes/ "Did you know-- * American women use handguns 416 times a day in defense against rapists, which is a dozen times more often than rapists use a gun? J. Neil Schulman, "Stopping Power: Why 70 Million Americans Own Guns" http://www.pulpless.com/stopower.html Article 11057 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!149.174.211.41!news-outbound.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Reinforced foundation Date: 3 Feb 1998 10:49:20 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bd3090$f7f69c40$0869afce@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn102-008.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11057 Over the years I have aquired a lot of used equipment some of it second and third hand.Upon cleaning it up, several times I have found in it a foundation I would very much like to buy but the former owners don't know where it came from.It is an all wax wire reinforced product, wired both vertically and horizontally bound by a thin, flat metal rim about 3/16" wide usually used in grooved frames.Any leads would be greatly appreciated. -- E.L.Scofield Sideline Beekeeper Virginia Beach,VA.USA Article 11058 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!Aladdin!aladdin.net!ns2.aladdin.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!nildram!pm1-223.dial.nildram.co.uk From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Africanized Honeybee Lecture in Texas Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:53:21 -0000 Organization: Nildram Ltd Lines: 14 Message-ID: <34d99b4f.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> References: <8F95780AE430AAE6.C608671FF3C7E775.7A4E7408CC195BAB@library-proxy.airnews.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooby.nildram.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11058 >There are currently 94 Texas counties under state quarantine, including >Johnson and Ellis counties. The state quarantine allows beekeepers to >move bee hives within but not out of the quarantined zones in an effort >to prevent further spread of Africanized honeybees. Don't Texan bees have the ability to fly, then? Kidney John gnimmelf@nildramnilspam.co.uk Remove to reply All Spam Will Be Summarily Deleted! Article 11059 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.gte.net!news.airnews.net!cabal11.airnews.net!thereisnocabal!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: busykngt@airmail.net (BusyKnight) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Africanized Honeybee Lecture in Texas Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 08:11:24 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 11 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: <6bcc8i$b11@library.airnews.net> References: <8F95780AE430AAE6.C608671FF3C7E775.7A4E7408CC195BAB@library-proxy.airnews.net> <34d99b4f.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> Reply-To: busykngt@mail.airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Thu Feb 5 06:45:06 1998 NNTP-Posting-Host: dal03-19.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11059 "Kidney John" wrote: >>There are currently 94 Texas counties... >Don't Texan bees have the ability to fly, then? Sure they do, how do you think they spread from one county in 1990 to 94 counties, eight years later? Of course, they don't fly as fast as mankind can carry them on trucks to all Texas' counties.... Article 11060 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!newspump.wustl.edu!biko.cc.rochester.edu!rochester!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!cargo.tc.cornell.edu!user From: jwg6@cornell.edu (JG in NY) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Reinforced foundation Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:38:16 -0500 Organization: lahdeefreakindaaah Lines: 21 Sender: jwg6@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: References: <01bd3090$f7f69c40$0869afce@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: cargo.tc.cornell.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11060 You can see ads for this product in old (~60's) bee journals. If I'm not mistaken it was offered by Dadant back then. In article <01bd3090$f7f69c40$0869afce@default>, "Ernest Scofield" wrote: > Over the years I have aquired a lot of used equipment some > of it second and third hand.Upon cleaning it up, several > times I have found in it a foundation I would very much > like to buy but the former owners don't know where it came > from.It is an all wax wire reinforced product, wired both > vertically and horizontally bound by a thin, flat metal rim > about 3/16" wide usually used in grooved frames.Any leads > would be greatly appreciated. > > > -- > E.L.Scofield > Sideline Beekeeper > Virginia Beach,VA.USA Article 11061 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.wli.net!news.IAEhv.nl!Aladdin!aladdin.net!ns2.aladdin.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!nildram!pm2-154.dial.nildram.co.uk From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Africanized Honeybee Lecture in Texas Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:36:42 -0000 Organization: Nildram Ltd Lines: 25 Message-ID: <34da3daf.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> References: <8F95780AE430AAE6.C608671FF3C7E775.7A4E7408CC195BAB@library-proxy.airnews.net> <34d99b4f.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooby.nildram.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11061 >>Don't Texan bees have the ability to fly, then? > >Sure they do, how do you think they spread from one >county in 1990 to 94 counties, eight years later? Of course, >they don't fly as fast as mankind can carry them on trucks >to all Texas' counties.... > > Of course, I realise this, but what I really meant was quarantining Texas won't stop bees from flying over the STATE border, into other states. (Obviously I should have said this in the first place! Sorry!) Even if no one ever moves a hive out of Texas, you can bet the bees vacation where-ever they please! I believe the only way to avoid this 'Africanization', if it needs avoiding, and to avoid things like disease, varroa, etc., is good management, and strong healthy colonies. I wish you loads of honey, and other hive products, Kidney John gnimmelf@nildramnilspam.co.uk Remove to reply All Spam Will Be Summarily Deleted! Article 11062 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: peter.hutton@amigabee.org.uk (Peter Hutton) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!peter.hutton Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ban on Bee Cures Message-ID: <886719299@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 09:25:46 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 437 MSGID: 240:244/116 2a2849a1 REPLY: 240:44/0 1f2d822d PID: FDAPX/w 1.12a UnReg(201) Lines: 27 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11062 >> Formic acid being a constituent component of honey it may not >> fall under the term 'chemical Varroa treatments' legally >> speaking. >> Peace! >> Francis L> Hi Francis and "Peace" to you as well, L> You have hit the nail on the head. This is exactly the L> problem with this new legislation. All these "Natural" L> substances are unlikely to be licensed since they cannot be L> patented and it would cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to L> license them. The legislation seems to be that, "If L> it is licensed then it is OK" - "If not then it is illegal" Hi Harry, L> Where do you go to find out what is licensed?? L> Is sugar licensed??? You get the little blue book from Her Majestey's Stationery Office which tells you which chemical is registered and for what use. Incidentally the Government could esily register formic aid as a varroacide, but will it?? There are at least two acids registered for some other uses in the book. It is published each year with the current registrations. Best wishes from the Garden of England peter hutton --- * Origin: Kent Beekeeper Beenet Point (240:244/116) Article 11063 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Package Bees in So Cal Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 03:24:56 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6bdvo1$c2s$1@nntp.pe.net> References: <34d6c9cb.7152295@news2.pe.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem01ppp46.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11063 In article <34d6c9cb.7152295@news2.pe.net>, jamesr@pe.net wrote: >Can anyone give me the address of a supplier of package bees in >southern CA? I am about 35 miles west of Palm Springs. > The American Beekeeper Jounal has a lot of ads for buying package bees. These bees are about $45; they are sold in pounds, not numbers of bees, about 3 lbs per package; They come in a wooden box with sides made of window screen; the fertilized queen is in there in a separate little wood and screen box so the workers can't ball up on her; they are sent through US Mail and the postman calls your house when the bees arrive and you go to the Post Office and pick them up; in case you didn't know. California package bee sellers are mostly in the Central Valley because of all the almond orchards there, I think it is. Even the all knowing Old Drone comes from there, I think. Article 11064 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.eerie.fr!jussieu.fr!ext.jussieu.fr!not-for-mail From: LALLEMENT Pascal 108006 Newsgroups: fr.usenet.forums.annonces,fr.usenet.forums.evolution,fr.rec.divers,fr.rec.jardinage,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: [AAV 3] creation de fr.rec.apiculture (non modere) Followup-To: poster Date: 06 Feb 1998 08:49:38 +0100 Organization: Usenet Lines: 203 Approved: fufa@teaser.fr Message-ID: References: Reply-To: vote-fra@amandine.cea.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: piaf.lami.univ-evry.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Original-Sender: Pascal.PETIT@LaMI.univ-evry.fr X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11064 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello. 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FIN DE LA CHARTE Article 11065 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "RATIA Gilles" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: 37 sites at the same address: www.beekeeping.org Date: 6 Feb 1998 11:29:43 GMT Organization: APISERVICES Lines: 144 Message-ID: <01bd32f2$aaa42340$6790fcc1@toshiba> NNTP-Posting-Host: peri1-103.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11065 The "World's First Virtual Beekeeping Gallery" now has two addresses http://www.beekeeping.org http://www.apiculture.com where you can surf in on everything connected to beekeeping. What's more, the server has its own internal search engine to make your visit an enjoyable experience. Stats : 2 500 visits / month, 12 Mb for 717 files ! The "Gallery" has two sections: 1) Organizations, companies and journals (37 servers at the same address !) 2) Events, flash info, international databases, interactivities, collective catalogs, tools, goodies, links and miscellaneous Key : E = English, F = French, G = German, S = Spanish, P = Portuguese http://www.beekeeping.org = World's First Virtual Beekeeping Gallery (E + F + G + S + P) 1) Organizations, companies and journals: A) Organizations: http://www.beekeeping.org/apimondia/ = International Beekeeping Federation (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/anercea/ = Bee breeders association (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/apiservices/ = Beekeeping development (E + F + S) http://www.beekeeping.org/aea/ = European Association for Apitherapy (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/cari/ = Press and services (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/communicate-now/ = Translations (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/cneva/ = Veterinary laboratories (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/edapi/ = European Documentation in Apiculture (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/epba/ = European Professional Beekeepers Association (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/sna/ = Syndicat (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/spmf/ = Syndicat (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/tbrc/ = Triwaks Bee Research Center in Israel (E) http://www.beekeeping.org/unaf/ = Syndicat (F) B) Companies: http://www.beekeeping.org/apiselixirs/ = Health products (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/Biove/ = Veterinary products (Apivar) (E) http://www.beekeeping.org/chezelles/ = Bee products (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/fert/ = Queen breeder + books (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/leclercq/ = Beekeeping CD ROM (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/niddabeilles/ = Bee products (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/bee-biz/ = Northern Bee Books (E, under construction) http://www.beekeeping.org/opida/ = Videos, leaflets, books (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/rucher-3-tilleuls/ = Bee products (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/swarm/ = Veterinary products (Apistan, B401, Fumidil) (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/thomas/ = N°1 for beekeeping equipment (E + F) C) Journals http://www.beekeeping.org/adf/ = Abeille de France (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/abeilles-cie/ = Abeilles & Cie (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/apiacta/ = Apiacta (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/apidologie/ = Apidologie (E + F) http://www.beekeeping.org/bee-biz/ = Bee-Biz (E, under construction) http://www.beekeeping.org/bees-and-development/ = Beekeeping & Development (E + F= http://www.beekeeping.org/opida/ = Bulletin Technique Apicole (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/imkerei-tecnik/ = Imkerei Technik (G) http://www.beekeeping.org/o-apicultor/ = O'Apicultor (P) http://www.beekeeping.org/rfa/ = Revue Française d'Apiculture (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/sante-de-labeille/ = Santé de l'Abeille (F) http://www.beekeeping.org/bee-biz/ = The Beekeepers Quarterly (E, under construction) http://www.beekeeping.org/vida-apicola/ = Vida Apicola (S) and the numbers grow every (if you would like to join the Gallery, contact us). 2) Events, flash info, international databases, interactivities, collective catalogs, tools, goodies, links and miscellaneous A) Events, flash info: Articles Congresses Symposia Workshops Courses B) International databases: Beekeeping journals Beekeeping museums (for your next trip) Editors Information by country (stats, addresses...) International markets (import/export) Research centers, institutes and universities Training Centers C) Interactivity - Choose the right tool ! All beekeeping discussions > Forum Classified ads > Notice-Board Chat Room live > Java applet Remarks about the site > Guestbook Suggestions/Corrections/Collaboration > Email D) Tools: Beehive plans - Dadant & Langstroth Beekeeping dictionaries - English & French Beekeeping conversions - syrups, wax, Pfund... Books for your bookshelf Calculator for beeswax polish formulae Calculator for honey weight in drums Colors for queens Honey house plans for hobbyist and pro Mathematical conversions - volume, length... Personalized advice Taxonomy - genus, species.. E) Miscellaneous (contribute to these collective catalogs): Beekeeping celebrities Gallery of beekeeping pictures Labels Meads recipes Numismatics Post cards Philately Ancient beehives F) Other beekeeping links: Web Listings Archives NewsGroups Mailing lists FAQ And we have a lot of projects : Mb and Mb of new files ! This " World's First Virtual Beekeeping Gallery" is not our site but your site. You can give suggestions or, better still, collaborate to increase it. Thank you. Gilles Ratia webmaster@apiservices.com http://www.beekeeping.org Article 11066 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pjbnet.demon.co.uk!JonCole From: Jon Cole Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.med.nutrition,alt.med.veterinary Subject: Animal Pharm World Animal Health and Nutrition News headlines Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:01:22 +0000 Organization: PJB Sender: Jon Cole Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk [158.152.115.88] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a <1zUHjtIDRAuY9sonhNPb+08hrj> Lines: 11 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:23023 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11066 sci.agriculture.poultry:4449 sci.agriculture.fruit:1437 sci.med.nutrition:85299 alt.med.veterinary:15114 The updated headlines from Animal Pharm World Animal Health and Nutrition News are now available from the PJB Publications Web site. The URL to stay up-to-date with what's in the latest issue of Animal Pharm is http://www.pjbpubs.co.uk/animal Kind regards, -- Jonathan Cole PJB Publications (Please change 'nospam' to 'demon' to reply) Article 11067 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!nntp.ruhr.de!Aladdin!aladdin.net!ns2.aladdin.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!nildram!pm1-193.dial.nildram.co.uk From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Reinforced foundation Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:42:44 -0000 Organization: Nildram Ltd Lines: 22 Message-ID: <34db5ea3.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> References: <01bd3090$f7f69c40$0869afce@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: scooby.nildram.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11067 It is an all wax wire reinforced product, wired both >> vertically and horizontally bound by a thin, flat metal rim >> about 3/16" wide usually used in grooved frames.Any leads >> would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> -- >> E.L.Scofield >> Sideline Beekeeper >> Virginia Beach,VA.USA Thornes (UK) do wired foundation, but I don't know about the metal strip round the edge (which sounds like a good idea to me, I invariably damage the edges when fitting new foundation!) Contact Thornes via http://www.thorne.co.uk Kidney John gnimmelf@nildramnilspam.co.uk Remove to reply All Spam Will Be Summarily Deleted! Article 11068 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "JP" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Dead Bees Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 15:46:27 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6bfsut$3cb$1@usenet47.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 3467@209.113.187.112 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11068 I have two hives. On inspection today, I found all the bees dead. Less than two weeks ago on a warm day, the hives were inspected and they looked fine. The weather had been extremely warm allowing the bees to leave the hive and then we had a cold snap. They had plenty on honey left, so it wasn't food. Any Ideas on what may have happened? Is the honey still good? Article 11069 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.eerie.fr!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "ROBERT LECCA" Newsgroups: alt.agriculture,alt.agriculture.beef,alt.agriculture.commodities,alt.agriculture.fruit,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.agriculture.technology,alt.sustainable.agriculture,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.p Subject: Re: discution Date: 6 Feb 1998 20:44:36 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 12 Message-ID: <01bd322a$c9d5f720$2011fcc1@default> References: <6b25c1$p20$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: gras1-79.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.agriculture:1044 alt.agriculture.beef:824 alt.agriculture.commodities:20 alt.agriculture.fruit:7419 alt.agriculture.misc:9753 alt.agriculture.technology:40 alt.sustainable.agriculture:21270 sci.agriculture:23038 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11069 sci.agriculture.fruit:1438 RIVIERE didier a écrit dans l'article <6b25c1$p20$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr>... > je suis eleveur en france > iln'y a pas d'agriculteurs qui parle fraçais chez-vous > salut > didier > tu peuts parler avec bob Robert.Lecca@wanadoo.FR > > Article 11070 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.94.128.13!news.javanet.com!not-for-mail From: Richard Bonney Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Reinforced foundation Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 15:51:03 +0000 Organization: JavaNet Cafe Lines: 11 Message-ID: <34DB3164.5E0A@javanet.com> References: <01bd3090$f7f69c40$0869afce@default> <34db5ea3.0@scooby.nildram.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: armory-us222.javanet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-NSCP (Macintosh; U; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11070 >It is an all wax wire reinforced product, wired both > vertically and horizontally bound by a thin, flat metal rim . . . In the eary to mid 1980s someone in California was offering beeswax foundation that was vertically and horizontally wired, with the wires about one inch apart each way. I believe it did have a metal binding. Perhaps you have come upon some of this. It did not gain wide acceptance and I remember it being available for but a relatively brief time. Dick Bonney rebonney@javanet.com Article 11071 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Gary L. Bradshaw" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dead Bees Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 22:17:41 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 36 Message-ID: <6bgjqa$in5@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <6bfsut$3cb$1@usenet47.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.33.148 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11071 JP In a word ---- Mites ! Either varroa or tracheal. Both leave the hive more or less empty of bees but with plenty of food. Q - when you say they were inspected two weeks ago, does that mean that you actually opened the hive and inspected the brood nest or just a doorway inspection? Unless you actually opened the hive, the activity may have been robbing. To check for Varroa mites, take a frame that was in the center of the brood area, hold it by the bottom bar and tap the top bar on a hard surface with a piece of white paper under the frame. If there were mites, dead ones should be in the debris that you tap out of the frame. To positively identify tracheal mite requires disecting some dead bees. The honey is OK in either case except for human consumption if the colony had been medicated. Just save it for new bees in the spring. Gary gbees@worldnet.att.net supplier of equipment and bees (NY,NJ,PA,DE,MD area) JP wrote in message <6bfsut$3cb$1@usenet47.supernews.com>... > >I have two hives. On inspection today, I found all the bees dead. Less >than two weeks ago on a warm day, the hives were inspected and they looked >fine. > >The weather had been extremely warm allowing the bees to leave the hive and >then we had a cold snap. They had plenty on honey left, so it wasn't food. > >Any Ideas on what may have happened? > >Is the honey still good? > > Article 11072 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.idt.net!ais.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: 1445@1445.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: 2387 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 22:19:59 PST Organization: 5510 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <6bgjvh$fs9@chile.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.36.176.51 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11072 Buy your veterinary products at a low cost on the internet. Free veterinary consultation availble from veterinarians that are currently practicing veterinary medicine, for more information send e-mail to equine@angelfire.com Article 11073 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!203.29.160.2!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: "IHUG" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: beepollen Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 10:57:10 +1300 Organization: The Internet Group Ltd Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6bilc2$l6o$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p39-max17.auck.ihug.co.nz X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11073 Hello, I asking on behalf of a friend of mine who is a professional beekeeper here in New Zealand. He likes to know more about how to collect beepollen, what materials involved, plans, good literature, websites (a search gave me over a 1000, so not sure where to start) Any help is very appriciated sincerely, Dada Article 11074 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!1-55.skylands.net!user From: renfrow@skylands.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: mead recipes Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:47:06 -0400 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 3389@206.103.0.55 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11074 Hello! I've posted some historic mead recipes to: http://www.alcasoft.com/renfrow/sample.html and links to more mead sites at: http://members.aol.com/renfrowcm/links.html Enjoy! C. Renfrow renfrow@skylands.net Article 11075 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!Gamma.RU!srcc!Radio-MSU.net!news-ham1.dfn.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!198.6.0.87!uunet!in5.uu.net!news.fishnet.com!4everyone.com From: me@4everyone.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Immature Hairless High School Pussy Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 19:43:18 -0700 Organization: Lines: 3 Message-ID: <070298194318@4everyone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr01-76.fishnet.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11075 Immature High School Hairless Pussy. Teens Getting PUNISHED by their Psycho Teacher. High School BDSM PUNISHMENT PIX!! Cum and TIE these teens up and give these INNOCENT TEENS a GREAT LICK.. http://pirate.ddns.org Article 11076 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.IAEhv.nl!news.edu.sollentuna.se!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!sahart.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "shaun" <shaun@sahart.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Equipment Wanted Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 07:06:56 -0000 Message-ID: <886921260.23042.0.nnrp-11.c2de0bfb@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: sahart.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: sahart.demon.co.uk [194.222.11.251] X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Lines: 10 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11076 I wish to start bee keeping this year. I am looking to buy equipment (national + colony, bee-suit, smoker, etc.) I live in Surrey, UK. Please contact me on:- shaun@sahart.demon.co.uk Article 11081 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "Roméo" Newsgroups: alt.agriculture,alt.agriculture.beef,alt.agriculture.commodities,alt.agriculture.fruit,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.agriculture.technology,alt.sustainable.agriculture,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.p Subject: Re: discution Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:49:00 +0100 Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <34DF6BBA.4B5C1945@wanadoo.fr> References: <6b25c1$p20$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: orl2-223.abo.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: RIVIERE didier Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.agriculture:1050 alt.agriculture.beef:883 alt.agriculture.commodities:22 alt.agriculture.fruit:7442 alt.agriculture.misc:9774 alt.agriculture.technology:41 alt.sustainable.agriculture:21278 sci.agriculture:23282 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11081 sci.agriculture.fruit:1448 RIVIERE didier wrote: > je suis eleveur en france > iln'y a pas d'agriculteurs qui parle fraçais chez-vous > salut > didier Je suis aussi en France et très intérressé par les commodities... I speak french too... bien sûr Je recherche des contacts pour échanger les points de vue alors à bientot Article 11082 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Sue Bee Jan. Member Letter Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:33:43 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <34df71b1.63919599@news.jps.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.138.225.53 Lines: 38 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!205.138.225.53 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11082 1998 Honey Crop Initital Advance Authorized Jan. 27, 1998 In a letter to members the Sioux Honey Association Board of Directors pass on this information for members that my give non members some idea of the value of honey at least to the 400+ producers who are members of the largest honey packing cooperative in the US. The initital advance on the 1998 crop will be $0.35 US for both Sue Bee Bottlegrade and Aunt Sue Bottlegrade honey pools. The pool #3 and Special Pool will receive $0.30 US, and the Pool #4 $0.15 US. Beeswax will bring a $1.00 initital advace. (all US coin & US weights in pounds) Sue Bee members also receive a $0.07 US per pound March 1 advance on all 1997 crop honey bringing the advances to $0.55 US for Sue Bee & Aunt Sue grades, and $0.50 US for Pool 3 and Special Pool honey. Pool #4 has returned $0.35 US and Beeswax returns so far have been $1.50 US. Members delivered 36,400,000 US pounds of honey from their 1997 crop and estamated sales to the June 30, 1998 end of fiscal year are 46,000,000 US pounds up from the 42,680,000 US pounds 1996 crop sales. The increase in sales is said to be in the lower value industural bulk markets. ttul, the OLd Drone * A cynic smells the flowers and looks for the casket. (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! Article 11083 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "JP" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dead Bees Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:51:38 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6boc0s$d9o$1@usenet76.supernews.com> References: <6bfsut$3cb$1@usenet47.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 13624@208.200.158.25 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11083 I had the hive inspected, it was mites. John Article 11084 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: miksahf@aol.com (MiksaHF) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa Mite Resistance Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:54:29 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <19980210125401.HAA12806@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6blmqn$1br@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11084 >Fluvalinate strips are available in the US -- it's called Apistan > >If your section 18 reference is refering to Miticur, it was removed from >the market after a 'bad' batch caused a bee kill - the mfg. who bought ( but >did not develop) the manufacturing rights, did not want the liability and >withdrew the product. > >Current work is with a Formic Acid delivery system. > >GBee >gbees@worldnet.att.net > > Apistan Section 18 strips were on the market in 1989, they had the registered EPA code 109302 "fluvalinate" as in 1983. Since 1989 the formula for fluvalinate has been changed. Also the plastic delivery system was also changed. The current Apistan strips now have a different formulation and different plastic. The 1989 Apistan strips were tested here in Florida by the ARS USDA research team in 10/1997, those strips killed the so-called fluvalinate resistant varroa mites very well!!!! The miticur strips have and/or had problems,, right after manufacturing the amitraz break down into three compounds, one is toxic to bees ,,one is carcinogentic,,one is not now know to cause problems. The miticur or apivar (amitraz) strips would have to have an expiration date for usage. Placed into colonies before they become to toxic to the bees. More news to come,, Sincerely,,,, David A Miksa Article 11085 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steven.turner@amigabee.org.uk (Steven Turner) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!158.43.192.17!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!steven.turner Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Equipment Wanted Message-ID: <887135444@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:23:14 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 850 MSGID: 240:244/118 2ad02937 REPLY: 240:44/0 46692ec2 PID: FDAPX/w+ 1.12a EH00015 Lines: 19 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11085 : <> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Lines: 10 <> I wish to start bee keeping this year. I am looking to buy <> equipment (national + colony, bee-suit, smoker, etc.) <> I live in Surrey, UK. Try E.H. Thorne (beehives LTD) Phone 01673 858555 email: thorne@dial.pipex.com Credit cards excepted for mail order We use a local Thorns agent called "Park Beekeeping Supplies" (London SE10) try then voice or fax 0181-694-9960 Regards Steve --- * Origin: Bromley Beekeeping in the 21st Century (240:244/118) Article 11086 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.uunet.ca!news.auracom.net!usenet From: jlhamil@atcon.com (com) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Nova Scotia Beekeepers Annual Convention Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:20:43 GMT Organization: Auracom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <34e108c1.53444947@news.auracom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-26.ken.auracom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11086 The 1998 Annual Convention of the Nova Scotia Beekeeper Ass. will be held in Kentville NS on Feb. 20, 21. The guest speaker will be Lawrence Cutts Florida State Apiarist. Everyone is welcome. Halifax Area Lawrence will also be speaking in Bedford on Feb. 19 at the Bedford Legion at 7:30 Everyone is invited and it is hoped to provide some good discussion on honey bee mite control and good beekeeping practices in general. jh Article 11087 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!thor.cmp.ilstu.edu!line8047.ras.ilstu.edu!user From: wenning@entropy.phy.ilstu.edu (Carl Wenning) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping Short Course Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:58:37 -0600 Organization: Illinois State University-IS/Network Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: line8047.ras.ilstu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11087 The Heart of Illinois Beekeepers' Association (HIBA) is sponsoring a one-day Bees & Beekeeping Short Course in Bloomington, Illinois, on Saturday, March 14, 1998. For a tentative agenda and a detailed outline, access the HIBA website at the following URL: http://www.phy.ilstu.edu/faculty/wenning/hiba.html -- Carl Wenning Article 11088 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!EU.net!news0.Belgium.EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!news.bel.alcatel.be!usenet From: Hugo Thone Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa Mite Resistance Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:43:41 +0100 Organization: Alcatel Telecom Lines: 40 Message-ID: <34E1AB0D.6A31@se.bel.alcatel.be> References: <6blmqn$1br@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <19980210125401.HAA12806@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.203.33.105 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11088 MiksaHF wrote: > > >Fluvalinate strips are available in the US -- it's called Apistan > > > >If your section 18 reference is refering to Miticur, it was removed from > >the market after a 'bad' batch caused a bee kill - the mfg. who bought ( but > >did not develop) the manufacturing rights, did not want the liability and > >withdrew the product. > > > >Current work is with a Formic Acid delivery system. > > Finally a reasonable explanation. I have been using Apistan strips since 1989 and have noticed the following changes : - the strips are thinner now - the plastic is more fatty - the color of the strips is darker - the old strips could be used effectively for 2 -3 years In Europe we use only two strips per hive as stated on the instruction label, so I guess you have other strips over there. Although VITA pretends that there are fluvalinate resistant varroa mites in the south of Belgium, the strips are still effective where I live (northern part of the country). (And Belgium is not that big : if you are standing in most southern point, you can throw a pie in a person's face in the northern part. ;-) Maybe they are making some room for their new product APIGUARD. Cheers, Hugo -- do bee do bee do ... Hugo Thone (VE144) email : htho@se.bel.alcatel.be (\ ALCATEL TELECOM phone : (32) 3 240 94 52 {|||8- F.Wellesplein 1 fax : (32) 3 240 99 49 (/ B-2018 Antwerp Article 11089 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!news.kddnet.ad.jp!news3.sphere.ad.jp!nspixp!nntp-egw.ocn.ad.jp!nntp-egw.ocn.ad.jp!nn-os001.ocn.ad.jp!not-for-mail From: Hajime Nomura Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCTDVCahsoSg==?=) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:18:16 +0900 Organization: NTT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <34E1B328.6C1D@gold.ocn.ne.jp> Reply-To: nomu@gold.ocn.ne.jp NNTP-Posting-Host: p05-dn02yamatotaka.nara.ocn.ne.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [ja] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11089 -- $B")"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f"f")(J $BLnB NNTP-Posting-Host: d1-u11.wgtn.clear.net.nz X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11090 Abstract of INFO-MAC archived encoded Mac binary file 'game/com/bee-luxe-demo.hqx' Uploaded 02/06/98 1413758 bytes From: jhague@dadgum.com Subject: Bumbler Bee-Luxe 1.0.1 demo Another busy day collecting pollen and making honey when--ATTACK! Marauding insects swarm into your hive, and it's up to you to defend it from crazed bees, hornets, spiders, armored beetles, and hoards of other crawling and flying invaders. The survival of the hive is in your hands! FEATURES OF BUMBLER BEE-LUXE INCLUDE: * Over a dozen types of attacking insects, from the realistic to the outrageous: huge centipedes, moths that catch fire and burn, deadly hornets, mysterious glowing orbs, marching ants, robotic bees, and lots more. * Absolutely top-notch graphics. The visuals in Bumbler Classic drew raves, and now they're even better. * Stereo sound with real-time panning for a truly immersive experience. * Finely tuned and addictive gameplay. * Plays at a blazing 60 frames per second for silky smooth animation. * Catchy, custom-composed theme music. * Unlimited wild and varied levels, including choreographed bonus rounds and specialty swarms. * A screen-saver mode to let you show off your Mac. With version 1.0.1 performance has been improved on low-end 603-based Power Macs, some swarms have had their difficulty levels reduced, and a "crash on quit" bug that showed up on about 1 in 100 machines has been splatted. Bumbler Bee-Luxe requires a Power Macintosh. -- Remove "nospamthanks" from email address for replies Article 11091 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!149.174.211.41!news-outbound.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dead Bees Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:51:18 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 27 Message-ID: <01bd3611$a71420a0$1864afce@default> References: <6bfsut$3cb$1@usenet47.supernews.com> <6boc0s$d9o$1@usenet76.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn92-024.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11091 Chin up! Order your packages early and this time treat'em.They should be shipped w/Apistan strips which I now poke a hole in and leave in the new colony for 4-6 weeks.Get a grease pattie recipe from one of the catalogues and after a week or so, when you go in to check the queen, put a glob on top of the frames in a place where the bees have to come in contact with it. I now carry a 2gal. bucket of grease to the yards right along with smoker, veil, etc. They're are several treatment methods for both mites but that is what I do.I only post this to try to help.Don't give up...ernie -- E.L.Scofield Sideline Beekeeper Virginia Beach,VA.USA JP wrote in article <6boc0s$d9o$1@usenet76.supernews.com>... > I had the hive inspected, it was mites. > > John > > > > > > Article 11092 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!psinntp!news.idt.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.clark.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: bud1941@webtv.net (John Partin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa Mite Resistance Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:19:46 -0500 Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6bsmji$qfu$1@newsd-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <34E1AB0D.6A31@se.bel.alcatel.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11092 From what I know about the test on V-mite resistance in Florida I believe you are closer to being right than any thing I've read. They have not given any reason old strips work and new ones did not. In fact my understanding is they were not going test against old strips, this idea came from a beekeeper that gave them the old strips to test. Article 11093 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!psinntp!news-peer-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: MNichols Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa Mite Resistance Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:44:26 -0600 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 50 Message-ID: <6bso66$188@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <6blmqn$1br@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <19980210125401.HAA12806@ladder02.news.aol.com> <34E1AB0D.6A31@se.bel.alcatel.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.66.97.127 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11093 AH HA! So, was Bill Gates just standing in the pathway when this pie was thrown from south to north? Sorry, apologies. I wasn't able to restrain myself. I'm a lurker, who has never kept bees, but often thought I could. Thanks again to those persons who answered my first simplistic queries. I'm more patient now, and am rapidly learning by reading the postings in this newsgroup. Micky Nichols Eastern Kansas US rmnichols@worldnet.att.net Hugo Thone wrote: > > MiksaHF wrote: > > > > >Fluvalinate strips are available in the US -- it's called Apistan > > > > > >If your section 18 reference is refering to Miticur, it was removed from > > >the market after a 'bad' batch caused a bee kill - the mfg. who bought ( but > > >did not develop) the manufacturing rights, did not want the liability and > > >withdrew the product. > > > > > >Current work is with a Formic Acid delivery system. > > > > Finally a reasonable explanation. > > I have been using Apistan strips since 1989 and have noticed the > following changes : > > - the strips are thinner now > - the plastic is more fatty > - the color of the strips is darker > - the old strips could be used effectively for 2 -3 years > > In Europe we use only two strips per hive as stated on the instruction > label, so I guess you have other strips over there. > > Although VITA pretends that there are fluvalinate resistant varroa mites > in the south of Belgium, the strips are still effective where I live > (northern part of the country). (And Belgium is not that big : if you > are standing in most southern point, you can throw a pie in a person's > face in the northern part. ;-) > Maybe they are making some room for their new product APIGUARD. > > Cheers, > Hugo > > -- > do bee do bee do ... Hugo Thone (VE144) email : htho@se.bel.alcatel.be > (\ ALCATEL TELECOM phone : (32) 3 240 94 52 > {|||8- F.Wellesplein 1 fax : (32) 3 240 99 49 > (/ B-2018 Antwerp Article 11094 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: josephj@surf-ici.com (Mushroom) Subject: Beekeeping Merit Badge X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 02:54:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.100.145.56 Message-ID: <34e26500.0@news3.paonline.com> Lines: 9 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!207.44.3.66!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news3.paonline.com!basement Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11094 Yeah, I know..it's no longer around. Well, APPARENTLY it can still be awarded. Two very responsible youngsters in my area have approached me with thier parent's and scoutmaster's blessing. NOW my problem. Anyone have the requirements for this badge? :) In the interests of providing our youths with wholesome activities I'd even consider paying for the documents...and any advice would be cheerfully accepted ( maybe discarded, but accepted :) ) Article 11095 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!ppp-75-10.bu.edu!user From: iraseski@xensei.com (Ira Seskin) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Keep Feeding? Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:55:29 -0500 Organization: ira_seskin@bmugbos.org Lines: 50 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-75-10.bu.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11095 Its still theoretically mid winter here, but the days are warm, and there are cleansing flights going on regularly on the warmest of these. I have one " hobby" hive. I put a feeder on the inside cover to see if they were interested in sugar water. Well they took a quart down in two days. There still seems to be some decent weight in the hive, but needless to say no wheres near what it weighed in the fall. Should I keep feeding the syrup as long as they take it.. or will this stimulate them too much? -I- -- _ /_/_ .'''. =O(_)))) ...' `. \_\ `. .'''B'zzzzzzzzzzz `..' /| __ / | ,-~ / Y :| // / | jj /( .^ >-"~"-v" / Y jo o | ( ~T~ j >._-' _./ / "~" | I AM HAVING A Y _, | BAD /| ;-"~ _ l HARE DAY / l/ ,-"~ \ \//\/ .- \ Y / Y* l I ! ]\ _\ /"\ (" ~----( ~ Y. ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- April 1993- November 15, 1997 Ira_seskin@bmugbos.org for e-mail, but NO attachments iraseski@xensei.com for e-mail WITH attachments "Live Free or Die" Article 11096 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <34E0BE8C.54C0BDBC@imap4.orem.novell.com> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:54:38 -0700 From: Chuck Irwin Reply-To: cirwin@novell.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Red Man tobacco in smoker? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: cirwin_pc.orem.novell.com Lines: 7 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gronk.provo.novell.com!cirwin_pc.orem.novell.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11096 I was just talking to an old time beekeeper. He swore that the best material to use in a smoker was Red Man tobacco, which he had been using for 20+ years. I was wondering what everyone thought about this. Chuck Irwin cirwin@novell.com Article 11097 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Jan Honey Market USA Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:58:14 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <34e3603c.3560005@news.jps.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.138.225.25 Lines: 114 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!205.138.225.25 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11097 NATIONAL HONEY MARKET NEWS NO: I U. S. DEPARTENT OF AGRICULTURE Feburary 6, 1998 AGRICILTURAL MARKETING SERVICE FRUIT AND VEGEGTABLE DIVISION 2015 SOUTH I ST STREET - RM 4 YAKimA, WA 98903-22-31 PHONE: (500) 575-2494 US HONEY MARKET FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY, 1998 IN VOLUMES OF 10,000 POUNDS OR GREATER Prices paid to beekeepers for extracted, unprocessed honey in major producing states by packers, handlers and other large users, cents per pound, f. o. b. or delivered nearby, containers exchanged or returned, prompt delivery and payment unless otherwise stated. ARKANSAS - Soybean, extra light amber, 67cents CALIFORNIA - Alfalfa, extra light amber, 63 cents - Clover, white, 80 cents - Mixed Flowers, extra light amber, x 60 - 63 cents - Mixed Flowers, light amber, 55 - 60 - Orange, white, 80 cents - Sage, white, 72 - 80 cents COLORADO - Alfalfa, extra light amber, 71 cents FLORIDA - Brazilian Pepper, light amber, 60 cents - Brazilian Pepper, amber (non-table), 62 cents - Saw Palmetto, extra light amber, 78 cents . Saw Palmetto, light amber, 75 cents IDAHO - Alfalfa, extra light amber, 70 cents - Alfalfa, light amber, 67 cents - Clover, white, 76 cents INDIANA - Fall Wildflowers, dark amber, 83 cents - Wildflowers, medium amber, 84 cents LOUISIANA - Chinese Tallow, light amber, 60 cents MICHIGAN - Blueberry Blossom, medium amber, 80 cents - Knapweed, light amber, 80 cents - Spring Blossom, medium amber, 80 cents MINNESOTA - Clover, white, 70 cents MONTANA - Alfalfa, white, 72 - 74 cents - Clover, white, 68 - 75 cents NEBRASKA - Clover, white, 68 - 82 cents N. DAKOTA - Clover, white, 68 - 73 cents - Clover, extra light amber, 63 cents OREGON - Blackberry, extra light amber, 70 cents - Clover, extra white, 73 cents S. DAKOTA - Buckwheat, amber & dark amber, 70 - 85 cents - Clover, white, 68 - 70 cents - Clover, light amber, 85 cents WASHINGTON - Clover, white, 68 cents (small lot) - Clover, amber, 55 cents (small lot) - Snowberry, white, 70 cents Prices paid to Canadian beekeepers for unprocessed bulk honey by packers and importers in U.S. currency, F.O.B. shipping point, containers included unless otherwise stated. Duty and crossing charges extra. Cents per pound. MANITOBA - Floral source unknown, extra light amber, 75 cents ONTARIO - Clover, white, 74 1/2cents Prices paid to importers for bulk honey, duty paid, containers included, cents per pound ex-dock or point of entry unless otherwise stated. EAST COAST ARGENTINA - Clover/Alfalfa, white, 67 cents - Mixed Flowers, extra white, 64 cents - Mixed Flowers, white, 61 - 64 1/4 cents - Mixed Flowers, extra light amber, 61- 64 1/4 cents - Mixed Flowers, fight amber, 60 3/4 - 61 3/4 cents - Mixed Flowers, amber, 60 3/4 cents VIETNAM - Mixed Flowers, light amber, 61 cents CALIFORNIA BEESWAX MARKET SITUATION --- JANUARY, 1998 (unbleached, raw beeswax, delivered to handiers's warehouse) The wax market was extremely slow during January as beekeepers were busy checking bees, adding additional feed and getting them ready to go into Almonds. Handlers were not anxious to purchase any large quantities anyway, as demand for finished products was also very light. Prices being offered to producers were about steady for both light colored and dark colored wax. Prices in California for light wax ranged from $1.65 - 1.80. Dark colored wax was being purchased at $1.55 - 1.60 per pound. REPRINTED WITHOUT PERMISSION USE AT OWN RISK (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! Article 11098 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!btnet-peer!btnet!neptunium.btinternet.com!host5-99-61-250.btinternet.com!user From: "Richard Wiltshire" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees and Horses Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:12:19 +0000 Organization: BT Internet Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host5-99-61-250.btinternet.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11098 I would grateful for advice from anyone who has experience of keeping bees near horses. We have a proposal to consider for an apiary of eight hives to be built within some 200 meters of a riding establishment. The two uses will be separated by tree screen and hedges. A water collecting point will be available to the apiary. Richard Wiltshire Chair: QED Allotments Dartford Article 11099 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Gary L. Bradshaw" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees and Horses Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:18:45 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <6c0033$in7@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.32.163 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11099 When my horse get out, I usually find him in the apiary enjoying the grass. I know that he has gotten stung because I've seen him flinch but he has never had any reaction. The important point I guess is that he is not attacked and I usually have between 100 and 150 colonies in that apiary so there is plenty of opportunity. Gary Bradshaw gbees@worldnet.att.net Richard Wiltshire wrote in message ... > > >I would grateful for advice from anyone who has experience of keeping bees >near horses. We have a proposal to consider for an apiary of eight hives to >be built within some 200 meters of a riding establishment. The two uses >will be separated by tree screen and hedges. A water collecting point will >be available to the apiary. > >Richard Wiltshire >Chair: QED Allotments >Dartford Article 11100 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "Gary L. Bradshaw" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Keep Feeding? Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:31:10 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 70 Message-ID: <6c00qf$mvi@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.68.32.163 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11100 I'm not sure where 'here' is but we are experiencing the same situation in New Jersey. Feeding, especially liquid, has a couple of problems. First it will stimulate brood rearing which will compound the problem so that once you start feeding you cannot stop. It is one of those geometric situations. The bigger problem, at least in our area which is humid, is that feeding liquid puts water into the hive which the bees will have to deal with in their diet. If they become confined for an extended period, that high water diet could result in dysentry. If feed you must because the colony is truely short of food, then it would be best to use 'candied' sugar or dry granular sugar. Candy can be put directly on the top bars and for dry sugar you can put a piece of newspaper on the top bars and the sugar on the paper, but don't occlude the top entrance. Gary Bradshaw gbees__@__worldnet.att.net (remove __'s) Ira Seskin wrote in message ... >Its still theoretically mid winter here, but the days are warm, and there >are cleansing flights going on regularly on the warmest of these. I have >one " hobby" hive. I put a feeder on the inside cover to see if they were >interested in sugar water. Well they took a quart down in two days. There >still seems to be some decent weight in the hive, but needless to say no >wheres near what it weighed in the fall. Should I keep feeding the syrup >as long as they take it.. or will this stimulate them too much? > > > >-I- > >-- > _ > /_/_ .'''. > =O(_)))) ...' `. > \_\ `. .'''B'zzzzzzzzzzz > `..' > > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > / Y > jo o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ > / "~" | I AM HAVING A > Y _, | BAD > /| ;-"~ _ l HARE DAY > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y* > l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > April 1993- November 15, 1997 > > Ira_seskin@bmugbos.org for e-mail, but NO attachments > iraseski@xensei.com for e-mail WITH attachments > > > "Live Free or Die" > > > > Article 11101 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.59.190.100!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-outbound.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Keep Feeding? Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:19:23 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bd37a7$52459580$0764afce@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn92-007.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11101 Hello Ira, I only feed syrup in early spring if I want to split the colonies and feed dry sugar for starvation prevention.You didn't say where you are but here spring starts as soon as the days lengthen as far as the bees are concerned.Syrup will "blow 'em up" as long as they have pollen.Hope this helps. -- E.L.Scofield Sideline Beekeeper Virginia Beach,VA.USA > Its still theoretically mid winter here, but the days are warm, and there > are cleansing flights going on regularly on the warmest of these. I have Article 11102 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.6.107.173!tuco.xcom.net!news.ultranet.com!not-for-mail From: Marc Andelman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: How to raise varroa Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:50:31 -0500 Organization: Biosource Lines: 6 Message-ID: <34E3A6E7.4832@ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d24.dial-4.cmb.ma.ultra.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@ultra.net X-Ultra-Time: 13 Feb 1998 01:55:39 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11102 Hi. I think I will give up with bees and try to raise varroa. Can they be made to produce honey? Regards, Marc Article 11103 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to raise varroa Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 03:21:04 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <34e4bb13.26818106@news.jps.net> References: <34E3A6E7.4832@ultranet.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.138.225.20 Lines: 21 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!205.138.225.20 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11103 On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:50:31 -0500, Marc Andelman I know you are kidding but if you can rear then in quantity outside of the bee hive you should give up bees! I would guess world wide in the last 25 years a million $$ has been spent trying to rear them outside the bee hive with less then commercial success. wrote: >Hi. I think I will give up with bees and try >to raise varroa. Can they be made to produce >honey? > >Regards, >Marc (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! Article 11104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.224.117.12!news2.epix.net!nntp.epix.net!epix-news From: pyramid@epix.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Vitex Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:02:38 -0800 Organization: epix Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34E2745E.51F7@epix.net> Reply-To: pyramid@epix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: twnd-75ppp105.epix.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11104 I am looking for a source for vitex seed or plants. I tried to grow it several years ago without success but would like to tryk it again this year. Thank you. Burns Article 11105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pjbnet.demon.co.uk!JonCole From: Jon Cole Newsgroups: alt.med.veterinary,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.med.nutrition Subject: Agrow World Crop Protection News headlines Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:03:22 +0000 Organization: PJB Sender: Jon Cole Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk [158.152.115.88] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a <1zUHjtIDRAuY9sonhNPb+08hrj> Lines: 11 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.med.veterinary:15312 sci.agriculture:23475 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11105 sci.agriculture.poultry:4520 sci.agriculture.fruit:1460 sci.med.nutrition:85704 The updated headlines from Agrow World Crop Protection News are now available from the PJB Publications Web site. 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Kind regards, -- Jonathan Cole PJB Publications (Please change 'nospam' to 'demon' to reply) Article 11107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kenafman@aol.com (Kenafman) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Kenaf Conference Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:45:41 GMT Lines: 36 Message-ID: <19980213184500.NAA17322@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11107 The American Kenaf Society (AKS), a nonprofit 501(c)(3), will hold its first annual conference, February 26 - 27, 1998, at the Menger Hotel (across the street from the Alamo) in San Antonio, Texas. The AKS is a membership organization formed to; 1) Provide a mechanism for communication concerning common needs and interests in kenaf research, production, product development, and marketing. 2) Facilitate continued development of the kenaf industry. 3) Provide in cooperation with other organizations and institutions effective distribution of educational and scientific information on kenaf to all interested parties. AKS members include federal, state and academic organization's researchers and scientists, agricultural interests, nonprofit organizations, entreprenuers and other interested parties. Kenaf is an emerging fiber crop under research and development for commercial products. It offers economic, performance and environmental advantages compared to traditional raw materials. For conference registration information contact Dr. Morris Bitzer, University of Kentucky, phone (606) 257-3975, fax (606) 257-2185, e-mail mbitzer@ca.uky.edu. The Menger Hotel, (800) 345-9285, is offering special rates of $79 and $89 for AKS attendees. Article 11108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!149.174.211.41!arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to raise varroa Date: 13 Feb 1998 10:53:41 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bd386d$20fbb740$1261afce@default> References: <34E3A6E7.4832@ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn86-018.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11108 Hello Mark, If you need any pointers about which "medication" best raises varroa, let me know! -- E.L.Scofield Sideline Beekeeper Virginia Beach,VA.USA Marc Andelman wrote in article <34E3A6E7.4832@ultranet.com>... > Hi. I think I will give up with bees and try > to raise varroa. Can they be made to produce > honey? > > Regards, > Marc > Article 11109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!149.174.211.41!arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Keep Feeding? Date: 13 Feb 1998 11:10:21 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 17 Message-ID: <01bd386f$9b7b0d20$1261afce@default> References: <6c00qf$mvi@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn86-018.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11109 Hello, I use plastic divsion board feeders right next to the cluster with good results. They hold a 5 lb. bag of sugar just right. I also wet the sugar with 1/2 cup of water or so to keep the bees from carying it out of the hive until the humidity solidifys it. Eight feeders fit nicely in a deep super, can be prepared in advance, and I keep them on the truck all fall and in the spring until the bees are "out of the woods".Hope this helps. > Candy can be put directly on the top bars and for dry sugar > you can put a piece of newspaper on the top bars and the sugar on the paper, > but don't occlude the top entrance. Article 11110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Tom Fitzpatrick" Subject: old style Beehives Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:42:39 -0500 Lines: 6 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.68.152.12!upnetnews01!upnetnews03 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11110 Looking for pictures of old style beehives, the one I'm looking for had a bigger brood chamber and I think it was insulated ?? Tom tomfitz@ncp.net Article 11111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: redshrike@aol.com (Red shrike) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Vitex Date: 14 Feb 1998 00:38:24 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <19980214003801.TAA04913@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <34E2745E.51F7@epix.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11111 Hello. What IS Vitex??? Article 11112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!ptdnetP!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Russell T. Sears" Subject: Re: Red Man tobacco in smoker? Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <34E0BE8C.54C0BDBC@imap4.orem.novell.com> Organization: LIFT, Inc. Message-ID: <01bd38e3$f3bb1e20$7310bacc@beehive> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Lines: 13 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 01:03:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: cs8-03.eph.ptd.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 20:03:18 EST Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11112 Just remember, nicotine is an insecticide. 'Course, who am I to argue with an oldtimer? Still, I wouldn't use it. Chuck Irwin wrote in article <34E0BE8C.54C0BDBC@imap4.orem.novell.com>... > I was just talking to an old time beekeeper. He swore that the best > material to use in a smoker was Red Man tobacco, which he had been using > for 20+ years. I was wondering what everyone thought about this. > > Chuck Irwin > cirwin@novell.com > > Article 11113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: mdiver1@voy.net (vger) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Vitex Date: 14 Feb 1998 05:20:26 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6c39iq$c3t$1@usenet85.supernews.com> References: <34E2745E.51F7@epix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12413@209.42.130.139 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11113 In article <34E2745E.51F7@epix.net>, pyramid@epix.net says... > >I am looking for a source for vitex seed or plants. I tried to grow it >several years ago without success but would like to tryk it again this >year. > >Thank you. > >Burns > > > You can order the seeds ($2.00 per pack)or plants ($5.00 per plant) from Companion Plants, 7247 North Coolville Ridge Road, Athens, Ohio, 45701. Phone number is (614) 592-4643. Web site is www.frognet.net/companion_plants/index.html. This is an on line catalog, but you have to place orders by phone. For those wanting to know more about this herb, read this month's issue (Feb 1998) of "Bee Culture". Mailbox article, page 9, first letter to the magazine. Article 11114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp2.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: bGrandt@yahoo.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees and Horses Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:38:25 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6c4ha1$suk$1@nnrp2.dejanews.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: iw9.dejanews.com X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Feb 14 16:38:25 1998 GMT X-Originating-IP-Addr: 195.232.57.156 X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.03 [en] (Win95; I ;Nav) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11114 In article , "Richard Wiltshire" wrote: > > > I would grateful for advice from anyone who has experience of keeping bees > near horses. We have a proposal to consider for an apiary of eight hives to > be built within some 200 meters of a riding establishment. The two uses > will be separated by tree screen and hedges. A water collecting point will > be available to the apiary. > > Richard Wiltshire > Chair: QED Allotments > Dartford > hi, 200 meters are a repectable distance. We keep bees 150 meteres off a sheep meadow ground but build around the hives a barrier so the bees have to flight off high . Günter Grandt beekeeper in Germany -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 11115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!194.59.190.100!newsfeed.ecrc.net!arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!newsgate.compuserve.com!news-hub.interserv.net!news.sprynet.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernest Scofield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Vitex Date: 14 Feb 1998 09:48:33 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 11 Message-ID: <01bd392d$94744000$cc67afce@default> References: <34E2745E.51F7@epix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hdn99-204.hil.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11115 I found some at a nursery two years ago, they are popular landscape plants around here. -- E.L.Scofield Sideline Beekeeper Virginia Beach,VA.USA Article 11116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!darla.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!nac!nntp.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Cauthorn Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: wanted: Beekeeping Equipment Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:18:44 -0800 Organization: Cascadia Hop Company Lines: 9 Message-ID: <34E65084.6463@teleport.com> Reply-To: pbc@teleport.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip3-eug3-15.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11116 Hello, I'm a beekeeper in the Eugene, Oregon, area looking to expand my operation. If you know of any equipment that is free or cheap, please let me know. Thanks, Paul Article 11117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: luke49133@aol.com (Luke49133) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Wax Press Date: 15 Feb 1998 03:10:37 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19980215031001.WAA11210@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11117 I need to get a wax press for my bro who is beekeeping in Mexico. I am pretty sure I can get on from Thorne, however, I have a couple of questions. One, where can I find some documents describing what exactly a wax press is and two, why are wax pressed so difficult to find? I would think that a wax press would be a fairly handy tool. Anyways, any info would be very much appreciated. BTW, if you want to talk bees with my bro -- you might be able to contact him at Tluke2300@aol.com. Tell him I sent you. My brother, todd, is working with africanized bees, and he is doing quite well, but he is a relative novice. So, I am sure he would love to get some feedback from any of you bee-keeping folks. Thanks, Scott Article 11118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kkeepper@aol.com (Kkeepper) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beekeeping Merit Badge Date: 15 Feb 1998 07:41:19 GMT Lines: 2 Message-ID: <19980215074101.CAA04431@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <34e26500.0@news3.paonline.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11118 Areal good guess would be to look in the public liabraries. If that doesnt work try the thrift shops. Last but not least , maybe a good used book store. Article 11119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kkeepper@aol.com (Kkeepper) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pollination,Washington cranberries and other Date: 15 Feb 1998 07:53:12 GMT Lines: 5 Message-ID: <19980215075301.CAA16095@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11119 How would I go about finding out how to get pollination contracts for cranberrries, what is the going rate for this and other pollination jobs in washington state . I am trying to find out wheather it would be feasable to do or just "stick to honey".(ha,ha) Article 11120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: D.E. Hive??? Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:27:31 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6c74v8$ndu$1@nntp.pe.net> References: <19980209011200.UAA13779@ladder03.news.aol.com> <34E6F338.CDE@sympatico.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem01ppp43.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:11120 In article <34E6F338.CDE@sympatico.ca>, lacelle@sympatico.ca wrote: >Red shrike wrote: >> > I am going to be starting a new Hive this spring. I found a different kind of >> hive on the web and was wondering if anyone had any experience with this > type.>> It is called a D.E. Hive as seen at this address: I would try the top bar hive instead if I were you. Here is Jim Satterfield's home page with all the details: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm Article 11121 of sci.ag