Keith --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium -- We all live in one fishbowl. (1:283/121) @PATH: 283/121 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (298) Sun 18 Dec 94 16:24 By: Alan Hess To: Bluedog Re: Re: paw-paw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:261/1000 4bfe9cbe @REPLY: 1:278/304.0 2ef3ff44 In a missive of Bluedog (1:278/304) writes to Alan Hess: B> I am currently growing 5 of them here in upstate NY (south of you Nooo, I don't think so. :-) Last I looked, Maryland was south of you. B> here. I located some sources that specialized in northeast B> climates and the one that seemed the best is John H. Gordon, B> 1385 Campbell Blvd., Amherst, NY 14228-1404, Tel: (716) B> 691-9371. I must warn you that he doesn't have large B> specimens, they are grafted and are about 3/8" in diameter and B> 2 feet high at the most. Perhaps he has larger ones but at the I suppose I could check out some local garden centers. I just wanted some info on adult size of the plants, ease of care, and the like. Thanks. *adh* --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Nerve Center: Source of the SPINAL_INJURY echo! (1:261/1000) @PATH: 261/1000 1023 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (299) Sun 18 Dec 94 20:50 By: Gary Faucett To: All Re: windows problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:124/5125.0 2ef5037d I have a cracked window in my house, and I was wondering how hard it would be to replace it myself. The frame around the window is aluminum not wood and I cannot tell how to get the window out. Any ideas? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.10 [NR] * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * V34/VFC/H16/V32t/V32b/FAX (1:124/5125) @PATH: 124/5125 5117 1 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (305) Sun 18 Dec 94 3:33 By: Bluedog To: Alan Hess Re: Re: paw-paw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:278/304.0 2ef3ff44 -=> Quoting Alan Hess to all <=- AH> Has anyone grown paw-paws? How large do the trees/bushes get? I AH> know two are needed for pollination, so, if they're too large, I don't AH> have space to try them. *adh* Hello Alan, I am currently growing 5 of them here in upstate NY (south of you I believe) but they are somewhat tricky and don't grow as fast as I would like. Don't buy the specimens from the mail order commercial places as they sent ones that never seemed to work here. I located some sources that specialized in northeast climates and the one that seemed the best is John H. Gordon, 1385 Campbell Blvd., Amherst, NY 14228-1404, Tel: (716) 691-9371. I must warn you that he doesn't have large specimens, they are grafted and are about 3/8" in diameter and 2 feet high at the most. Perhaps he has larger ones but at the time I purchased mine they were rather small. Also I have mine in a location that I am not happy with and in the spring am going to move them so that, hopefully, they will grow better. I also purchased persimmons and many nut trees from him which are in a better location and doing very well. Hope this helps. ttyl. /* Phil */ --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304) @PATH: 278/304 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (320) Sat 17 Dec 94 15:39 By: Ted Christensen To: Sharon Moore Re: addresses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:140/15.0 2ef34c64 @REPLY: 1:264/1015.0 8778E784 Sharon Moore asks SM >When is a good time to start planning and digging a pool? Anytime - the sooner the better - is time to start planning. It sure helps to have it clear in your mind exactly what you want to do before you start digging. Digging? Depends on your weather and your soil. Here our soil will be frozen solid for several feet down until April. In Virginia you may be able to dig through the winter. The other thing is mud. My soil is sandy so it's no problem. If you have clay and wet seasonal weather it could be difficult, and messy. It's nice to have everything ready and the pool filled as soon a possible. BTW, fill the pool with water as soon as you can get the liner in. The weight of the water keeps the soil from collapsing. Dig the walls as straight up and down as you can. I'd try for a slope of 6 to 8 inches in two feet of depth if your soil will stand up. The liner is less visible with steep walls. Give enough thought to finishing off the edges. I like to dig a ledge 5 or 6 inches deep and wide all around the pool. The liner goes against the soil and small stones or bricks go on the ledge over the liner. This keeps plastic from showing at the waterline and also protects it from sunlight. It's easier to do this after the pool is filled almost up to the ledge. Then filling won't shift the liner and dislodge everything. If you are using fieldstone slabs or paving stones around the pool they can rest on the this ledge of stones and stick over the water for a couple of inches. Another idea is to lay sod over the stones. It sounds like you are going to have a lot of fun with your pool. Keep me posted. Feel free to ask me anything else about water gardening. Good gardening! Ted --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: The International 6+Gig Saskatoon,Sk.CANADA(306)384-7685 (1:140/15) @PATH: 140/15 201 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (321) Sat 17 Dec 94 21:26 By: Roseanne Brown To: Gary Gilmore Re: Re: addresses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:138/239.0 877D0BFA @TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 93-1157 -=> Quoting Gary Gilmore to John Clary <=- JC> I'd recommend getting a good book on planning your JC> landscape. GG> Any to suggest that don't cost as much as the landscaping? :-) Check the Library! Most places you can check out a book for up to a month, which will give you time to decide if the book is worth going out and buying or not. Also check with your local nurseries, they can tell you which plants do well where. Get some graph paper and a pencil and play around with ideas, keeping in mind the size of plants when fully grown. Another thing you might try is a shareware store that might have gardening programs that will help lay out your yard and or keep track of the types of plants and the care they need. RoseanneBrown@rook.wa.com ... ...how does your garden grow? With lots of cow and chicken poo poo. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 * Origin: Knight-Line! (1:138/239.0) @PATH: 138/239 173 1 103 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (327) Sat 17 Dec 94 9:02 By: Bruce Bosdet To: *ALL* Re: MONSTER TOMATO CATERPILLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:353/710.3 e310c1b0 The tomato patch of a friend of mine was visited by MONSTER TOMATO CATERPILLERS!!! The caterpillers were described as being about 4 to 5 inches long, hairless, as thick as your thumb (or thicker), and the exact colour of the tomato vine. The caterpillers apparently ate leaves and the tops of the fruit. Only 2 caterpillers resulted in extensive devastation! Can any one identify this massive green caterpiller??? Many thanks, Bruce ... ...I know just enough to be dangerous. --- PPoint 1.86 * Origin: Digital Encounters, Kamloops, B.C. Canad (1:353/710.3) @PATH: 353/710 719 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (328) Mon 19 Dec 94 8:18 By: Danny Williams To: Matthew Nack Re: Re: Generator Info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @PID: SX4.02B03 BT035 @MSGID: 1:137/2 9b61640c @REPLY: 1:2606/416 87752A3D MN> Does anyone use a backup generator when they loose the power in MN> their home? I'm considering to invest in one and I'd like MN> info on how to determine what type (i.e. power,size etc.) I MN> would need without going over board. MN> Any input would be greatly appreciated. Read the labels on whatever appliances you intend to run. Figure 3X that value for startup and use the listed value for continuous running. For example, your 600watt refrigerator will pull 1800watts every time it kicks on, then quickly (a few seconds) drops back to a continuous 600watts. Then add 25% and buy that generator. Get the largest fuel tank you can for the size of generator. Pay an electrician to install a switch and plug for you to attach your generator to the whole house at one time. --- Via Silver Xpress V4.02B03 BT035 * Origin: Chipper Clipper * Green Thumb Zone-Sow lightly (1:137/2) @PATH: 137/2 69 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (329) Sun 18 Dec 94 16:57 By: Dan Sicina To: Karin Brewer Re: Re: Test Message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:272/31.0@fidonet 2ef4b02c Would anyone know how to keep amaryllis bulbs so that they may be used again next christmas. They are done flowering for this christmas. Now what? Thanks --- RBBSMail/386 v0.997 * Origin: Red Onion, ExPress Wawayanda,New York 914 342 4585 (1:272/31.0) @PATH: 272/31 2 38 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (330) Mon 19 Dec 94 20:43 By: Michael McCarty To: Doreen Clancy Re: Thermostat suggestions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:110/860 2ef5f1f9 @REPLY: 1:353/385.0 2eeb04b8 Hello Doreen! 11 Dec 94 13:55, Doreen Clancy wrote to Tracy Logan: DC> One thing I notice is that my furnace seems to cut in and out a DC> lot more frequently then other people's. But my heating bill DC> seems to be about the same as when I had the old dial thermostat. DC> I'm too lazy to put the old dial one back on to see if it still DC> cuts in & out so frequently, perhaps due to all the windows I DC> have here. Does anyone else have this experience? Our programmable thermostat allows to adjust the differential so we can have it come on less often or more often. It helps to adjust it to set a comfort level for the type of house a person lives in. Basically it just tells the thermostat to start the heat when the temp drops a certain level, say .5 degree or 1 degree or a couple of degrees depending on your preference. Might check yours to see if it has such a feature. Michael --- GoldED/2 2.50.B1016+---LoraBBS-OS/2 v2.40b4+ * Origin: Barracuda BBS (513) 879-4714 Fairborn OH (1:110/860) @PATH: 110/860 675 69 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (332) Mon 19 Dec 94 8:38 By: Ken Jones To: Cal Clift Re: Re: Thermostat suggestion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am a heating contractor in Arkansas, Dennis has the exact right idea > about Can I talk with you about heating and cooling problems I'm having here? Is there a better echo for it than this. I don't think the folks here really want to read about my creature comfort problems. Thanks Ken --- DB 1.53/002232 * Origin: The Twilight Zone (1:130/503.2) @PATH: 130/503 509 124/1 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (333) Mon 19 Dec 94 8:26 By: Ken Jones To: Gary Faucett Re: Re: windows problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I have a cracked window in my house, and I was wondering how hard it > would be to replace it myself. The frame around the window is aluminum > not wood and I cannot tell how to get the window out. Any ideas? If its single pane I just measure the size of it and go to a glass shop (note I said a glass shop) not home depot or something along that line. Tell them the type of measurement it is (I usally get the inside frame to frame size) and tell them what type of window it is (brand name is best). They are usally very helpfull, because they know if you dork it up you will be calling them anyway. Never took on a double pane yet. --- DB 1.53/002232 * Origin: The Twilight Zone (1:130/503.2) @PATH: 130/503 509 124/1 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (334) Mon 19 Dec 94 8:38 By: Karin Brewer To: Pat Stockett Re: cactuses and other greens ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:387/403 877DEF16 [re orchid cactus] -> KB>whether that does anything for them. I got them on the roofed-ove -> KB>porch just now, but that's not very good light there. -> -> Mine doesn't get much real sun. In the summer they hang from tree -> branches in heavy shade. I think where they normally come from they -> grow on trees. In any case, they bloom the following year on only th -> new straps. I've wondered if they need the cool nights the way the -> Christmas and Thanksgiving cactus do. The big ones bloom twice a yea -> for me, once in the spring and again in late fall to early winter. Interesting. I'm pretty sure that the ones my stepmother has only bloom in the summer. She's got several red ones, and I think one yellow one. At one time, they also had a night-blooming one. A very pale pink comes to mind for that one, but I could be wrong. -> KB> I wonder who I can evict from the kitchen window? The Africa -> KB>violets have got to stay (there's thirteen of them blooming just n -> -> Steve put hooks in the ceilings for me back a little from the windows -> I can put a hanging plant behind the window that way. Actually, it's -> not safe to put anything right on the window sill in my kitchen. It -> faces to the north east and the winter storms hit them full force. My kitchen window also has got to be evacuated whenever the forecast calls for below 30F. Unfortunately it's one of the few good windows for plants. While it is facing south, I regulate the amount of light with shorty lace curtains, and the very top has that grayish plastic film to reduce the amount of light. There's a variegated heart-leaved philodendron in the east-facing living room window, and an oddball gesneriad that would really prefer more light than that. (What? You would ask... Let me look. A nautilocalyx pemphidius. Bubbly looking brownish leaves, supposedly small white blossoms, and lives in a terrarium bowl.) Most of the other windows that do get light are facing south or southwest, and have the blinds down to keep the temperature inside within acceptable levels. One of the pitfalls of living this far south and in a house without thermopane windows. -> I've brought all of my plants into the house this year. The greenhou -> just couldn't be kept warm last year and then with the storm damage I -> lost quite a few things. I don't want to take the chance that it wil -> repeat again. So all of my cymbidiums (18?) are in, a bird of paradi Oh my! My two attempts at orchids failed, the first one because we got transferred overseas and I had to give them away (had a bud on the ladyslipper), and the second time, I tried with a post-Mother's Day remnant, and I guess it just never recovered. It hung on for about a year, getting smaller on a weekly basis. The yellow/brown type of ladyslipper, BTW, is native to some parts of Austria, though you don't see them very often any more. -> assorted spider plants and a couple of monster Boston ferns. I'm sur -> there's more stuck in there. How about you? Do you have plants all -> over too. Let's see. The only other real indoors plant currently is a variegated Hoya that's probably getting ready to bloom again some time soon. It, too, shares the kitchen window (I tell you, it's a veritable jungle!) Got a Boston fern and an aspidistra outside, as well as a purple/silver zebrina, a big pot with pink geraniums, your two orchid cactuses, and a huge pinkish-red kalanchoe that is setting buds just now. The latter is the survivor of two other "remnants" that I got cheaply after they quit blooming and started to look a bit ratty. Next thing on the want list in the remnant category will be another pot of cyclamen, now they're cropping up in the stores again. Cyclamen seems to do reasonably well for me in a north-facing window. Karin --- WM v3.11/91-0010 * Origin: FliegWeg BBS - Home of VitaCal - (210) 496-6550 (1: (1:387/403) @PATH: 387/403 800 31 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (335) Mon 19 Dec 94 14:37 By: Harry Hall To: Wes Leatherock Re: Re: Thermostat suggestio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:365/200.0 2ef5e0de << On this date Harry read what Wes Leatherock wrote on 12-16-94 >> WL> What kind of thermostat do you have? Many years ago thermostats WL> were strictly metallic contacts and you could screw the adjusting WL> screw to adjust the swing. > WL> But since they went to mercury switches I haven't seen one you WL> could adjust. I'd like to get one. >=== Wes: They all have those adjusting thingys (I forget what they're called). It's the little 'slide bar' with the scale labled something like .25 to .8 HARRY in Ocala, Florida +( )^( )+ 12-19-94 'Kingdom of the Sun' \_/ 2:36pm --- X DeLuxe2 1.25 #8815 X God Bless Vespucciland! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sherwood Forest (1:365/200) @PATH: 365/200 866 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (360) Tue 20 Dec 94 4:38 By: Kent Anderson To: Gary Faucett Re: windows problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @TID: IMAIL 1.51/c+ PK32 @MSGID: 1:382/92.0 2ef762a5 -=> On 18 Dec 94 20:50:13, Gary Faucett said this to All GF> I have a cracked window in my house, and I was wondering how hard it GF> would be to replace it myself. The frame around the window is aluminum GF> not wood and I cannot tell how to get the window out. Any ideas? Gary, If it's like most aluminum windows, there is a plastic gasket that substutes for putty. Behind that, when you remove it, you should find some little wire clips holding the glass. There may be a very small bead of putty over these. If so, you'll have to remove it to get to the clips. These should slip out easily with a screwdriver or needle nose pliers. Just be sure you get the _exact_ size of glass for