... HAPPY HOLY DAYS --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Rendezvous!! V34,VFC,H16 Bastrop, Tx [512-303-1324] (1:382/92) @PATH: 382/92 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (438) Tue 20 Dec 94 0:55 By: Doreen Clancy To: Nolan Chamczuk Re: Annual Color ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:353/385.0 2ef62b68 On 12-15-94 Nolan Chamczuk wrote to All... NC> I would like some reds, yellows, pinks ect.. NC> I would also prefer ones where I can collect seed fairly simply (like NC> the petunia). Thanks in advance... Hi Nolan. You'll have a ball at a nursery in the spring about May 1-10 about when they have all the bedding plants out. Get to see them in bloom then and it sure helped me to come to know what I liked. Might make your "experimenting" a little easier on your wife too, if she knew ahead of time what something would look like . A word of caution here though. I trust you know that if you collect the seeds of hybrids (most of our petunias are hybrids) they may not reproduce at all or not be the same as the original after 1 or 2 generations. I've saved seed from Marigolds. They always do well in Alberta. Heights from 6" to 2', colors from deep orange to bright yellow. Plant 6-8 weeks early inside under lights. I like 1.5-2 ft. high Nicotiana. Only mixed color seed sold here so I picked the seed and bagged each color separately. Like the red & pink. They last very well in drought and also take light frost. Also saved seed from Snapdragons until I changed to Madame Butterfly, a hybrid that apparently won't reproduce. Warning if you get starting seed under lights. It just keeps expanding and expanding. It's taken over 2 closets now (before I moved to the closets it took over 2 bedrooms). I need 200 Petunias alone here so may as well add the rest. The best place to pick & choose is at a nursery, looking over their seed rack about February 1st. You'd want to plant Petunias by about February 15th. Read the packages of anything you're attracted to and when you have some possibities grab a sales person who is into plants. Then you start staring into people's yards in the summer while driving past, haunting nurseries during the summer, taking over cabinet tops & getting more lights, ... and well, as near as I can see there's no end to it. I love it. Go ahead, choose some, let us know what you have and we'll share any experience about them, OK? BTW, It's important to check for height on the packages. I've made some booboos with this along the way. Happy gardening. ... OFFLINE 1.51 --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: William's, Vernon B.C. (604)549-2409 24hrs free access (1:353/385) @PATH: 353/385 680 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (439) Thu 22 Dec 94 8:28 By: Bill Mason To: Richard Rose Re: Re: test message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thus spake Richard Rose unto Bill Mason on the day of 19 Dec 94 13:14:31 RR> From what I have seen the last few days it seems to be getting active RR> again. Is there currently a moderator for this echo as it stands? Well the person who sent me the netmail about re-establishing the echo immediately after it was originally debackboned was Phil Perlman--perhaps he's the moderator now? --Bill --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: Growing by the River of Life: @c @d Fido 1:125/39 (1:125/39) @PATH: 125/39 37 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (440) Thu 22 Dec 94 8:32 By: Bill Mason To: Lee Follweiler Re: Re: Stinky Plant ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thus spake Lee Follweiler unto All on the day of 20 Dec 94 16:36:00 LF> grow on the old Addams Family Show, and feed it ground beef. LF> but it has yellow bell like flowers and stinks like a skunk. You can smell LF> this with the window open. I LF> would have ripped it out of the ground when I first found the source of LF> the skunk like smell, but curiosity got the better of me. I waited LF> until it bloomed. Now it's to late, the wife saw it and likes it. What LF> the heck is it ? It's not a good description, but that's my story and Well it sounds a heck of a lot like a skunk cabbage. Does it have big giant leaves that sort of frame the flowers, and they all come up directly from the ground? Skunk cabbage flowers don't strike me as bell-like, though... They have a central green spike with a yellow "hood" enclosing it, in similar fashion to the rest of the arum lily family to which they belong, including calla lilys & peace lilys. I've always thought skunk cabbage *were* rather pretty to *look* at... :) --Bill --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: Growing by the River of Life: @c @d Fido 1:125/39 (1:125/39) @PATH: 125/39 37 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (444) Wed 21 Dec 94 7:57 By: Diana Pederson To: Dan Sicina Re: Re: Test Message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:159/650.0 2ef8266b DS> Would anyone know how to keep amaryllis bulbs so that they may be DS> used again next christmas. They are done flowering for this christmas. DS> Now what? Thanks Hi: Amaryllis bulbs are EASY to keep for another year. Just cut the flowering stalk off close to the bulb once it dies. Then let the bulb grow on until it's warm enough for it to go outside in the late spring. I leave mine outside all summer and keep them fertilized every 2 weeks. In late August, I bring them back in and let the foliage die down. Then I unpot the bulbs and store them dormant for at least 2 months or to whenever I get around to repotting them. They should send up flowerl buds within 2 or 3 weeks of repotting them. Water them just enough to get them started growing and keep just moist until they flower. My parents and I have kept these bulbs going for several years. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Jenny's Dog House BBS I, Where the Tree is always Wet (1:159/650) @PATH: 159/650 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (445) Wed 21 Dec 94 9:49 By: Richard Rose To: Nolan Chamczuk Re: Re: Annual Color ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:2245/101.0 2ef86be5 NC> Soil type well typical blacktop Not going to get much to grow in blacktop! (I know you mean black top soil). Try some salvias. "Bonfire" gets to about 2 feet tall and is a very bright red. "Hot line" is the same, but shorter. There are other colors of salvia, but they don't seem to bloom as nicely as the red. Nicotiana (red) is the #1 hummingbird attracter. Marigolds come in yellows and oranges, and in alot of heights. Snap dragons come in mixed or straight colors. "Floral Carpet" is a dwarf snap that is very nice as a border. An old favorite (my personal favorite) is Cleome. "Rose Queen" is a very large bushy variety that blooms in pink and white. For accents around the border, try blue ageratum, dusty miller, white allysum (purple allysum is unreliable). The list goes on, but these are a few very popular things for sun. As for perennials, I prefer the "English garden" style of gardening. In other words, throw it in the air, where it lands, plant it. Just mix up different things, it makes a nice effect. The biggest problem with perennials is that each variety has it's own specific bloom time. Look at what you are buying and try to get a variety of bloom times, that way you are more likely to have someething in bloom at all times. Shop for perennials locally only. Your local garden center will not sell you anything that will not do well in your area, unlike catalogs which will sell anything to anybody, regardless. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Swamp, River Falls WI 715.425.8865 & 612.436.5254 (1:2245/101) @PATH: 2245/101 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (447) Thu 22 Dec 94 11:13 By: Luke Kozek To: All Re: Merry Christmas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:353/360 b28b3b9f Merry Christmas everyone, from my house to yours. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: International House Of Mud - Vernon, BC, Canada (1:353/360) @PATH: 353/360 353 250 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (450) Tue 20 Dec 94 20:00 By: Nancy Griffin To: Bruce Bosdet Re: Re: MONSTER TOMATO CATERPILLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The tomato patch of a friend of mine was visited by MONSTER TOMATO > CATERPILLERS!!! The caterpillers were described as being about > 4 to 5 inches long, hairless, as thick as your thumb (or thicker), and > the exact > colour of the tomato vine. The caterpillers apparently ate leaves and > the tops of the fruit. Only 2 caterpillers resulted in extensive > devastation! > Can any one identify this massive green caterpiller??? > Many thanks, > Bruce Those critters are known as the Tomato Caterpillers/Worm. Nancy --- DB 1.58/003717 * Origin: The Animal House BBS...(203)582-6983 (1:142/983) @PATH: 142/983 111 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (451) Wed 21 Dec 94 20:23 By: Alan Chong To: All Re: Cleaning Hardwood Floors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:229/15@fidonet.org 2f5e9712 Hello All, Are there products or a household tipps in keeping hardwood floors less dusty? Special vaccum cleaners? Air cleaners in heating/air systems? Special brooms? Waxes or finishes? Dusting techniques? Damp mopping products? Thanks in Advance --- * OLX 2.2 * Windows NT: 16Mb to accomplish a 4Mb job --- QScan v1.131b / 01-0348 * Origin: FidoNet: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) @PATH: 229/15 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (452) Thu 22 Dec 94 2:57 By: Pat Climento To: All Re: Pointsetta ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:2623/68 2ef8eb88 Hi All! I have noticed that my pointsetta palnt is dropping it's leaves like crazy. I don't wanter it every day but I can't stop the leaves from dropping off...any suggestions? Pat --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Witch's Brew/4 28.8 (609)698-1027 *MAIL ONLY* OS2-BINK (1:2623/68) @PATH: 2623/68 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (467) Thu 22 Dec 94 21:44 By: Dennis Garringer To: Ken Jones Re: Re: Thermostat suggestion ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @PID: QE 2.75+ In a message to Cal Clift <12-19-94 08:38> Ken Jones wrote: KJ> Can I talk with you about heating and cooling problems I'm having KJ> here? Is there a better echo for it than this. I don't think the KJ> folks here really want to read about my creature comfort problems. Not to worry, this is Home & Garden. There are others who can learn from your convesation too. But, if it is privacy you are looking for, there is E-Mail. Bye!! --- QuickBBS 2.75 * Origin: Above the Fog ::::::::::: Paradise : (1:119/7) @PATH: 119/7 88 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (469) Thu 22 Dec 94 17:32 By: Karin Brewer To: Richard Rose Re: Re: test message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:387/403 8780369C -> BM> After the messages dried up, I kept this area configured -> BM> to receive it, though, since I got a netmail from someone who w -> BM> trying to establish an alternative Home & Garden echo that coul -> BM> backboned once again, which led to my curiosity as to what exac -> BM> happened once we started receiving it again! -> -> From what I have seen the last few days it seems to be getting active -> again. Is there currently a moderator for this echo as it stands? Last I heard of, it was Sharon Allsup. Karin --- WM v3.11/91-0010 * Origin: FliegWeg BBS - Home of VitaCal - (210) 496-6550 (1:387/403) @PATH: 387/403 800 31 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (479) Thu 22 Dec 94 3:56 By: Brian Seidel To: Ted Christensen Re: New Plant Area ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:140/68.0 2ef95b42 On 12-21-94 Ted Christensen wrote to Brian Seidel... TC> Hi! TC> Am i right in thinking that your problem with TC> growing flowers around your gazebo is shade? If so TC> Impatiens, a brightly coloured annual you can buy as TC> bedding plants are a good choice. I used Impatiens plants in some hanging baskets in the gazebo and they worked well in the shade. I have a large area around the gazebo which I would like to fill with prennials. TC> Monkshood is a tall perennial with spikes of purple flowers that TC> can stand quite a bit of shade. It is a very poisonous plant so I'd TC> be wary of growing it if there's any chance of children TC> eating leaves or flowers, though. No small children at home anymore but lots of small visitors so I'm hesitant to use poisonous plants. TC> Hop plants do as well in shade as any climber if you want vines TC> growing up the walls of the gazebo. I have a few cuttings TC> from one of mine growing under lights. Just tried a few to TC> see if it worked. You are welcome to one of them in the TC> spring if you like. Call me in the spring if you want one. TC> Voice phone # is 306-668-4903 or E-mail me. There is a TC> local gardening echo on the International BBS, too, at 306- TC> 384-7682. It's message area IDC9. TTYL. TC> Ted I would be interested in the Hop plant as we would like have some vines climbing the lattice work sides. I will keep your message on file and will give you a call in spring. I have just recently asked for increased access to the International BBS and will include the gardening areas in my message areas. Thanks for your help. Brian ... OFFLINE 1.35 * Seasons Greetings... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Horticulture UofS 966-8013 (1:140/68) @PATH: 140/68 201 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (480) Thu 22 Dec 94 16:57 By: Ted Christensen To: Jo Meyers Re: Hello! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:140/15.0 2ef9f64a Hi, Jo! Your message got to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. That's in the middle of the Canadian prairies, about 1500 miles NW of you. Merry Christmas Ted --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The International 6+Gig Saskatoon,Sk.CANADA(306)384-7685 (1:140/15) @PATH: 140/15 201 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (482) Wed 21 Dec 94 13:41 By: Doreen Clancy To: Cal Clift Re: Re: Thermostat suggestio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:353/385.0 2ef83072 On 12-17-94 Cal Clift wrote to Dennis Garringer... CC> Hi Dennis and Doreen, I am a heating contractor in Arkansas, Dennis has the exact right idea about the thermostat, but that setting is called the "heat anticipator". It is measured in tenths of amps. Your thermostat has a little electric heater in it that anticipates the heat that will be driven out of your duct work after the burner is turned off by the thermostat, but before the fan cycles off on its heat switch. The heat anticipator should be set at the amp draw of the rest of your 24 volt control system. If the heat anticipator is set too low (too far toward the smallest numbers) the temperature will swing too far in your house, (say from 7 or 8 degrees), if it is set on too high a number, the furnace will go off and on rapidly. A good rule of thumb it to look at your gas valve, ( the electric valve right before the burners in the furnace) and it will have a number on like .35 Amp. You can then set your heat anticipator in the thermostat to .35. Thanks Cal. I thought the furnace (gas) and thermostat (Transtronic) were somehow coordinated. Appreciate your explanation. The thermostat