@REPLY: 1:3639/55.0 8785630B > -- ProBoard v2.02b10 [Reg] > * 0rigin: Business Connection 5.1Gigs (912)249-0090 DStd (1:3645/10) > -- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.10 > * 0rigin: SouBaptist Net, Greenville, S.C (803) 370-2997 (1:3639/55.0) Ronald, you're generating new dupes. Jesse * Origin: Tucson Arizona - Dry clear intermediate alkalai desert - (1:300/7) @PATH: 300/7 15 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (768) Fri 30 Dec 94 19:40 By: Peter Becker To: All Re: Peonies ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:2201/38.666 2f0463f3 @PID: GED B1207 1025 My peonies are old. Maybe in the neighborhood of 50 - 60 years. Twenty years in our garden alone. But they are getting kinda scraggly. Just not as pretty as they were in the past. The flowers are not as big. The foliage not as much. What can I do to revitalize them? There was an old song that had as a line... ..."but the peony bush in my garden. made you turn around and smile at me." I don't have those kind of peonies anymore and I want them back. Pete --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Peter's Precarious Point (peterbecker@delphi.com) (1:2201/38.666) @PATH: 2201/38 200 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (769) Fri 30 Dec 94 23:16 By: Doug Swanson To: Lee Follweiler Re: Re: MONSTER TOMATO CATERP ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:261/1023.0 2f0494de Unfortunately, the are big, juicy and full of tomatoe goo. No self-respecting fish would touch one. And when you put the hook in, the green goop runs out and they go down like a popped balloon. Yucky bait. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: King Solomon's Mine Balto MD (410)494-1533 (1:261/1023) @PATH: 261/1023 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (774) Wed 28 Dec 94 20:12 By: Susan Delisle To: Doreen Clancy Re: Tomatoes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:249/120.0 2f020d16 @REPLY: 1:353/385.0 2eeb069a DC> Hi, I learned something last season that my tomatoes need. If they get DC> stressed (e.g. sudden heat) they need to draw up calcium. My favourite DC> local expert said she knew it sounded nuts to get special tomato DC> fertilizer but now used it herself as it definitely prevented problems. DC> This contains the calcium and is sold in small jars in plant nurseries. DC> I'm going to use it next year. And if your cheap like me, just ground up your eggshells and dig that in around the roots. --- Maximus 2.00 * Origin: Albion's Refuge (1:249/120) @PATH: 249/120 200 99 12/12 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (775) Fri 30 Dec 94 8:32 By: Basil Barnes To: Sharon Allsup Re: Re: Moderator & Echo Status ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 20 Dec 94 15:50:40, Sharon Allsup wrote: SA> As the ELISTed moderator of the new HOME-N-GRDN, I don't intend SA> to make many, if any changes. The typical echo rules still apply: stay SA> on topic; no flames, commercial ads, huge ANSI pictures, encrypted SA> messages; and real names preferred. That's about it. We really don't SA> NEED lots of restrictions, do we? SA> Questions? Comments? People who garden and are interested in their homes generally don't have the inclination to flame, I believe. The messages are interesting and useful even to us Zone 2 people up north! The growing season is so short up here that the plants have adapted by growing faster ... trouble is that the rustling at night as the plants grow keeps us awake! I'll never forget the troubles we had one year with an exceptionally long growing season (3 weeks instead of the usual 2 weeks) combined with an unusually active pumpkin vine ... :-) This echo is truly an oasis of enjoyment to read ... if you'll excuse the expression! ;-) Thanks to everybody for keeping it alive. --- Any Sysop who makes an absolute statement is a fool. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.54 * Origin: Amiga Devil BBS, Edmonton AB, Supra 28.8 (1:342/53) @PATH: 342/53 61 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (791) Sun 25 Dec 94 17:46 By: Cal Clift To: Doreen Clancy Re: Re: Thermostat suggestio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:391/3020.0 878900BC @TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 93-0806 In a message dated 12-21-94 DOREEN CLANCY wrote to CAL CLIFT: DC> Thanks Cal. I thought the furnace (gas) and thermostat (Transtronic) DC> were somehow coordinated. Appreciate your explanation. The thermostat DC> has a pinhole marked Cal, I'm guessing this is for calibration. On DC> installation the furnacemen checked it to ensure it coincided with DC> the furnace. I have the temperature set for 23 Celsius. It cuts in at DC> 21. DC> (Each degree Celsius is about 1.5 degrees F.) I wonder about its DC> readings because in just moments of heating the thermostat is showing DC> 21, 25, 21, 25, 23 and then cuts out. There's no heat vents there, DC> it's down a hallway, so no drafts really. There's no way it's reached DC> 25 degrees in the hall. I tried taping around the thermostat to DC> eliminate drafts but no change. When I've cooled the house down while DC> away or at night it seems to keep doing this, cutting in & out, in & DC> out, until it reaches the 23 degree temperature range then seems to DC> settle down, not cutting in as often. When I'm trying to raise the DC> temperature after cooling the house I'd like it just to cut in and DC> stay on for awhile instead of this in & out business that can go on DC> for an hour or more. DC> I reposted all your answer for other's info. Usually I just quote a DC> few lines but I thought many northerners would like the info. I've DC> printed out your message. Thanks again. Ciao, Don't get the "Thermostat" and the "thermometer", that is put on the case of most thermostats, mixed up. The thermostat (that dial that shows the temperature right now) in most thermostats has no connection with the operation of the thermostat (this is the the case in all but digital thermostats). A second cause of the problem that you posted could be if the "on" and "off" temperature of your fan switch ( that switch that brings on the furnace fan after a certain amount of heat has built up ) are set too close together. Typically there are three pointers on the fan switch. 1) the lowest setting about 110 degrees Fahrenheit, is the fan off switch. 2) the next setting is the fan on switch. 3) the third is a high temp. limit switch, which shuts down the furnace if it gets too hot. NEVER ROTATE THE SWITCH,ONLY MOVE THE POINTERS. NEVER RESET THE HIGH LIMIT SWITCH. If the fan on and the fan off switches are too close together, the fan will come on, cool the furnace down below the off setting and the fan will go off. For safety sake reset the lower pointer. You can try the above if the furnace fan goes off, and on but the burner stays on. BTW: if you have a set back thermostat you should decided if it is really neccesary. CAL CLIFT -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Ser#2-269 Origin: Alice strikes back @ --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 * Origin: House of Bill Compute (1:391/3020.0) @PATH: 391/3020 3000 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (792) Fri 30 Dec 94 10:50 By: Cal Clift To: Ken Jones Re: Creature comfort problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:391/3020.0 878900BD @TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 93-0806 In a message dated 12-28-94 KEN JONES wrote to CAL CLIFT: KJ> When we first moved in their wasn't enough flow to feel from 6 inches KJ> away. My wife rode their back so much that the feed for the room was KJ> re-done, by making the room its own feed ( before it was shared with KJ> the livingroom) and increasing the size of the tube. This helped but KJ> it still has problems. KJ> What I was thinking of doing was taking out the convoluted tube and KJ> put in a solid wall pipe on just that run. I think the run is just so KJ> long that the air is just losing its punch by the time it gets there, KJ> I feel that the convoluted tubing is causing a swirling and venturi KJ> effect. Can the metal tubing be mixed with the plastic? Ciao, I don't think I would want to use plastic pipe for heating/AC ductwork, indoor air quality can be a problem and I don't know what kind of gases plastic pipe would give off when it is heated. It is possible that you could be waking up with headraces or other problems. If I am understanding you properly (room is on the north east house with a short south wall) this room sticks out from the house. You should check the following: 1) That this new duct, that was installed by the contractor, is insulated, if there is any doubt about this just wrap the duct with insulation batts using nails for "pins" to hold it around the duct, you can not get too much insulation on duct work. The duct should actualy have insulation covered by a vapor barrier the above is some Arkenigering. 2) Make sure that there is a way for air to return from this bedroom to the return air grill. I have seen rooms that have had thick carpet in them that meet the bottom of the door, when the air flow was checked the supply was fine, but when the door was closed, the room would pressurize and the conditioned air would just go to an easer room. CAL CLIFT -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Ser#2-269 Origin: Alice strikes back @ --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.11 * Origin: House of Bill Compute (1:391/3020.0) @PATH: 391/3020 3000 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (794) Fri 30 Dec 94 17:00 By: Ken Greene To: All Re: Joining IN! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @PID: BWTAG 3.05 [Eval] @MSGID: 1:106/4015.0 2f043d27 The Two Garden's of Houston Texas now add this area to it's Fidonet Message Bases. Moderator Please send or post Rules for this Echo? Ken Greene ... Fun, fun, fun, 'til her daddy takes her Blue Wave away! --- FMail/386 0.98 * Origin: 713-556-9167 556-6310 (1:106/4015) @PATH: 106/4015 2001 2000 449 116 170/400 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (813) Sun 1 Jan 95 1:34 By: Alan Boyd To: Sharon Allsup Re: Moderator & Echo Status ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @PID: RA 2.02 79470 @MSGID: 1:379/1 54a4a41c @REPLY: 1:130/404.1 2ef743a0 hello Sharon... seems i missed the boat...on the change...hopefully..my hub will be getting the feed soon...thanks for the netmail...message really missed this echo...even if i lurked..... hopefully the SML-BBS will be carring this echo once again... Alan boyd --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 22gig! 30 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) @PATH: 379/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (815) Sat 31 Dec 94 18:24 By: Bill Mason To: Sharon Allsup Re: Re: MONSTER TOMATO CATERPILLERS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SA> Bt is effective against almost all caterpillars. It is SA> harmless to birds & most wildlife, which is why it's so popular as SA> an organic method of pest control - but it will kill many types of SA> caterpillars, not just the Tomato Hornworms. Ah, so careful and selective spraying would definitely be in order. SA> Not to denigrate your recommendation - if hand picking the SA> monsters & squishing them dead isn't feasible, Bt is a good way to SA> save the tomatoes without the hassle & residue of many insecticides. No problem...I don't really know much about it, but I'd seen so many messages about it earlier that I guess I couldn't contain my amusement over another aghast SOS (or SOT) from someone just discovering tomato hornworms. From all the replies this time around, it does look like hand-picking and squishing may even be quite a bit easier and faster than getting out and finding a place that has Bt spray anyway. I guess it must be more useful for infestations of numerous small caterpillars than a few big fat ones. --Bill**** --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: Growing by the River of Life: @c @d Fido 1:125/39 (1:125/39) @PATH: 125/39 37 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (859) Sun 1 Jan 95 19:42 By: Sheryl Moore To: Peter Becker Re: Peonies ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:147/180@fidonet.org 1094406a i know peonies don't like to be moved,but could it be the soil is worn out there after all those years?maybe moving them to a fresh sight and hard pruning might revitilize them.or you could call wayside gardens and ask them..1-800-845-1124 is their order line,maybe they can direct you to someone .good luck. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: MEDICUS BBS in Edmond, OK 405-478-8250 (1:147/180) @PATH: 147/180 20 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (861) Sun 1 Jan 95 0:57 By: Ken Jones To: Cal Clift Re: Re: Creature comfort problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > KJ> What I was thinking of doing was taking out the convoluted tube and > KJ> put in a solid wall pipe on just that run. I think the run is just > I don't think I would want to use plastic pipe for heating/AC ductwork, > indoor air quality can be a problem and I don't know what kind of gases > plastic pipe would give off when it is heated. It is possible that you > could > be waking up with headraces or other problems. The whole house is the flex plastic pipe (its just the way they do them here) there is the batting over the pipes with the silver type foil paper on it. What I see seems to be very secure. When the heat comes on it does puff the cold air out of the pipe for a few seconds, but it does climb to full heat in that amount of time. > If I am understanding you properly (room is on the north east house with > a > short south wall) this room sticks out from the house. You should check > the Correct let me try a outline here. South /\ | | __________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | heater | | _______________| | | | | | | | ________ | | | | ___________ | | inlet | | | | bedroom | | | |___________________________________________| > 2)Make sure that there is a way for air to return from this bedroom to > the > return air grill. I have seen rooms that have had thick carpet in them > that > meet the bottom of the door, when the air flow was checked the supply was > fine, but when the door was closed, the room would pressurize and the > conditioned air would just go to an easer room. We usally have all doors open, we have a cat and 2 small dogs that roam the house at night. I did block off a couple of vents in the rest of the house. The living room had 2 the kitchen 2, and the dining room 2 I blocked them off with a cardboard insert at the outlet. To cut them back to 1 vent each, it seemed to help the overall comfort in all rooms ( there is nolonger hot and cold patches in the house) My wife checked with some of the other neighbors down the street and they all have the same problem. At first I thought we had over insulated. We took the ceilings from r26 to r30 walls from r11 to r13 (thick as we could go with 2x4 studs)