-=> Quoting Basil Barnes to Sharon Allsup <=- BB> Sure, that would be great. We generally get summer between about July BB> 28 and August 1 ... somewhere in there for about a 24 hour period. BB> The frost generally has disappeared by that time, but the problem is BB> that the sounds around here at that time of year are something BB> terrible. BB> You see, over the winter a lot of sounds made outdoors in this area BB> get frozen and don't go anywhere. They just freeze and fall to the BB> ground and get covered up by the snow. BB> Consequently, when they thaw out in late Spring or summer we have a BB> terrible time as the sounds "come to life" so to speak (sigh, pun not BB> intended, I think). BB> The really neat thing is trying to identify whose voices were whose, BB> when we sit and listen as they thaw out. It really is a lot of fun! Hi Basil You really brought a smile to my day. Where'd you get your tall tale training? Careful - someone not from around here might believe you .:) Down here in the south (Dogpound - NW of Calgary) the temperature's gone from 0F to 45F since yesterday morning. 'Course tomorrow it'll probably be back to -20 and I'll have missed the only day of spring to get my garden in. Makes me want to start ordering things from some of the seed catalogues I got last month. Bye for now Jan ... Without black clouds there would be no rainbows. --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: The Messhall, Calgary AB. ATI19200etc (403) 286-7545 (1:134/73) @PATH: 134/73 17 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1365) Tue 10 Jan 95 12:47 By: Steve Austin To: Rita Bussell Re: Shady perenials ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:105/52.0 2f12ba2a Good Afternoon Rita from Bethany Ct ! Am VERY interested in how you make out with the Rose bush in your shady area. Built 3 shady gardens last summer around the base of some trees. Brought in plenty of new soil and mulch. Am researching Hosta (only have some large boring varieties) with keen interest. all the best, Steve --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: The Garden Pond (503)735-3074 28.8K V.FC (1:105/52) @PATH: 105/52 69 50 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1387) Wed 11 Jan 95 21:45 By: Basil Barnes To: Kent Anderson Re: Re: Moderator & Echo Stat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 09 Jan 95 08:38:26, Kent Anderson wrote: > After all its a balmy -30C or for you US people -20F or > so, with ice fog and its actualy quite nice out, you just have to > dress for it. I know it now I am going to get a reply from someone > in Alaska saying how nice our weather is. KA> We've been having a fairly severe winter here. (Austin, Tx) On KA> two mornings, the temperature has been 32 deg and never got above 50 KA> deg. Of course, yesterday, Jan 8, it was 75 deg in the afternoon. ROFL It's been really cold up here lately. In fact the other night I went to blow out the candle (we only get electricity turned on during weekends) and I couldn't. It was so cold that the flame had frozen solid, and I had to break it off to turn out the light! ;-) --- A sysop's love for his users is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. --- DLG Pro v1.0 * Origin: Amiga Devil BBS, Edmonton AB, Supra 28.8 (1:342/53) @PATH: 342/53 61 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1388) Wed 11 Jan 95 15:49 By: Rita Bussell To: Doreen Clancy Re: Shady perenials ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RB> I also saw an everblooming climbing rose bush that is suppose to grow RB> in shade in the Parks Seed Catalog. DC> DC> Do you happen to have the name of this variety handy? I'd really like DC> to check into its availability here as there's this shady spot... The name is Zephirine Drouhin. I don't know if you'll be able to find it in a garden center yet. Sometimes when a new plant becomes available in the catalog, it takes a while for it to show up in the garden centers. Send Parks Seed Co. a note requesting a catalog and they'll be happy to send you one. The address is Cokesbury Road, Greenwood, SC 29647-0001. Here's the description they have for it: A sensation when it was introduced in 1868, this is still one of the most popular of all climbing roses, today. The loose, semi-double cerise- pink flowere are romantic in form and fabulously fragrant. Produced in enormous quantity for an outstanding mass effect all season long, peaking especially in spring and fall. Growth is vigorous, reaching 15 to 20 feet high, with rich, dark green foliage that has a coppery tint when young. Very resistant to mildew, this is an excellent rose for shady areas. such as climbing on trellis against a north wall. The canes are thornless, great for planting where foot trffic is heavy, or where children are nearby. Lovely when kept pruned as a shrub, too Zones 5-9 $9.95 each; 3 for $26.95; 6 for $52.00 ... If a parsley farmer goes bankrupt, can they garnish his wages? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: MISSION CONTROL FUNHOUSE 203-374-0101 & 9367 (1:141/466) @PATH: 141/466 415 455 485 507 1130 1135 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1399) Wed 11 Jan 95 18:23 By: Della Knight To: Michael Taricani Re: Wiring problem... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:2608/20.0 2f146882 @REPLY: 1:142/983 2f0e5752 Are you sure there's no mixup on the Celsius and Farenheit terminology? 60 drgrees would seem to be adequate in a person's home and I don't see how a ceiling fan should cause the wire temperature to rise as high as 90 c. If it did I don't think I'd install it in my house. But if you really wanted to you could have a new wire pulled in for the one circuit you need for the fan. It wouldn't be as much trouble as a new installation because there would be existing wire to pull it in with. I'd like to know how you make out, good luck. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Phoenix High School BBS - Phoenix, New York (1:2608/20) @PATH: 2608/20 25 27 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1403) Thu 12 Jan 95 0:06 By: Philip Perlman To: Alan Crudden Re: Wood burning Stove maintenance ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:278/304 2f1473b4 @REPLY: 1:141/266 54ad9db8 Hello Alan! On Saturday January 07 1995, Alan Crudden was seen whispering to All: AC> I've seen several ads for materials to burn in stoves for the purpose of AC> removing creosote buildup. Have any of you had experience with such AC> products and if so how did you feel about their performance? I've just AC> had my stove cleaned and the sweep remarked on the creosote buildup, AC> suggesting I move to harder woods and a hotter fire. That'll help for AC> sure, but I thought something else might be in order for occassional use. If you're not using hardwoods -- e.g. oak, hickory, beech, maple, birch, etc -- then you are asking for creosote. If you have a brick chimney; i.e. an uninsulated one they tend to build up creosote faster than an insulated metal chimney because creosote build up will occur when the flue is cools the gases from the stove. The trick to minimizing creosote buildup is when you first start the stove let it heat up to much higher than normal. I use a magnetic temperature gauge attached to the flue pipe. Normally it stays in the orange range which if I recall is somewhere between 300-600 degrees fahrenheit. When I first start the stove I run the temperature up so high that it pins the gauge, then I damp it and let it cool off. This procedure will help burn off some of the creosote build up in the chimmney. If you are running your stove continuously (which is what I do when I am at my place upstate) then you should run the temperature in the stove up high at least once a day. Hope this helps. ttyl. /* Phil */ --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304) @PATH: 278/304 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1404) Thu 12 Jan 95 0:13 By: Philip Perlman To: Keith Mcelroy Re: I Need Seeds!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:278/304 2f14748b @REPLY: 1:3612/386@fidonet.org 29586a08 Hello Keith! On Sunday January 08 1995, Keith Mcelroy was seen whispering to Lori Gall: LG>> I live in Saskatchewan, Canada (which is a Zone 3 climate I think) and LG>> I am looking for flower seeds. I have alot of space - would love to LG>> have thousands of colorful flowers to admire. I need plants that can LG>> take care of themselves pretty much ... the colors don't matter...the LG>> more the better. It would be nice if they reseeded themselves too. KM> From reading your post I'd say that you were looking for primarily KM> wildflowers... I remember seeing an ad for cans of wildflower seeds KM> that came in mixtures like "Far West", "Southeastern" and "Far KM> North" but have not seen this ad in awhile... Perhaps someone has KM> seen the ad recently and can help you with the address... KM> Here is a address and telephone number for a wild flower seed KM> catalog co. located in Vermont... It's free and you could use it to KM> compare prices with if nothing else.. KM> The Vermont Wild Flower Farm KM> Dept GJ 5 KM> Route 7 KM> Charlotte, VT 05445-0005 KM> Tel: 802-425-3500 Vermont Wild Flower Farm is the one that sells mixtures for various locales. I have used there products for years w/ great success. Also their prices in quantity lots are quite reasonable. ttyl. /* Phil */ --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: * BlueDog BBS * (212) 594-4425 * NYC FileBone Hub (1:278/304) @PATH: 278/304 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1419) Wed 11 Jan 95 10:31 By: Hal Clark To: Steve Knight Re: Stump Remover ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3611/6.0 8795BB68 @TID: WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12a 91-0065 >Well they consist of potassium. (I know I misspelled it) And they recomend >you drill holes pour it in and then light a fire on top to drive it in. Is this potassium the same thing as potash? Sounds like that ought to clean it up for sure. >Stump grinding is the best method. The thing to do when you remove a tree >is to leave about 6 feet of the trunk and then you have a lever to use to >pull it out. Duuh Uhuh?? :) ^^^^ ^^ ^^^ Seriously, I have done this several times before, but I don't want to work that hard. I already tried to talk my wife into doing it for me and that didn't work either. I also want to wait a couple of years before I replace the timbers around the bed, and they are too close to escape damage if I remove the stump mechanically. Thanks for you advice. Hal --- * OLX 1.52 * Those large rolls of grass? They're cow cocoons. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12a * Origin: ZAP! HST/v32terbo * 1-912-788-5258 (1:3611/6.0) @PATH: 3611/6 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1420) Thu 12 Jan 95 10:39 By: Jesse Tharin To: Mark Kemp Re: soil ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @PID: RA 2.02 22610 @MSGID: 1:300/7 54b3a44e @REPLY: 1:152/6.0 2f12ba7c > > does anybody know how i can improve the clay soil in my garden? > Till in lots of organic matter. Add sand (you'll read warnings > against adding sand, saying the combination ... will result in > "concrete"... Yep, I've heard that a lot. The reason I warned him against adding sand wasn't the concretion argument but seeing that he was from (had to look it up) the Dallas area I was guessing that he had "clay" soil that's mostly coarse sand, sort of what we have here in much of Arizona. It acts like we expect a clay soil to act, both wet, wet worked, and crusted, short of extreme plasticity. I think people underestimate the amount of sand in soils of all sorts, and without enough organic stuff a little clay goes a loooooooooong way. Jesse * Origin: Tucson Arizona - Dry clear intermediate alkalai desert - (1:300/7) @PATH: 300/7 15 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1422) Wed 11 Jan 95 9:15 By: Terry Olsen To: Kim Erdman Re: Re: Fishing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TYPE:LOST AREA:WILDRNSS Hey there is good fishing in the Trinity Alps. I've been camping near Upper and Lower Canyon Creek Lake and a few other places in the Trinities. I plan to go this summer for a couple of weeks. Maybe some fishing, maybe some gold panning, and for sure some breathing fresh mountain air and listening to nature and loving it. I am lookin for a parter to go with. --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: The BBS at Pooh Corner (707)445-0500 2 node 14400 (1:125/37) @PATH: 106/9944 5 992 449 116 170/400 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1423) Mon 9 Jan 95 22:52 By: Chuck Fasterling To: Anne Madison Re: Bears ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TYPE:LOST AREA:WILDRNSS @MSGID: 1:3800/39.3 2f11bed0 @REPLY: 1:261/1055.0 2f0f21aa Hello Anne, Whazzup? Quoting Anne Madison to Valerie Shearer On 07 Jan 95 at 19:20 About Bears AM> Good for them! We had a case several years ago where a woman was AM> bitten by a copperhead in a state park here in Maryland. She AM> sued the state park for having been negligent in not eradicating AM> the snake population. Sheesh! That is disgusting! What is happening to our society these days? I hope that the case turned out against her. She should have been fined and/or jailed for wasting the courts time, and the publics' money! TTYL, Chuck --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615 * Origin: Stargate 1 * Baton Rouge, LA * 504-923-3053 (1:3800/39.3) @PATH: 106/9944 5 992 449 116 170/400 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1424) Mon 9 Jan 95 22:42 By: Chuck Fasterling To: Tim Ralph Re: Lnt? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TYPE:LOST AREA:WILDRNSS @MSGID: 1:3800/39.3 2f11bcb8 @REPLY: 1:229/125@Fidonet 000111FA Hello Tim, Whazzup? Making a comment about your message to ANNE MADISON On 02 Jan 95 at 22:08 About Re: Lnt? All I can do is _DREAM_ about the area that you live in and especially the area that you spoke of canoeing in. That must be (in my opinion) one of the worlds most beautiful areas. Here in southern Louisiana, you cannot see farther than about 2 miles through air, and 2 inches through water. It's the pits. Please take in the beauty of your backyard wilderness for a few dreamers here in the states. Thanks for your time, TTYL, Chuck --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615 * Origin: Stargate 1 * Baton Rouge, LA * 504-923-3053 (1:3800/39.3) @PATH: 106/9944 5 992 449 116 170/400 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1425) Mon 9 Jan 95 14:25 By: Anton Johnson To: Sharon Moore Re: Addresses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TYPE:LOST AREA:HOME-N-GRDN Dear Sharon, > Hi, > just got my first house, it is drab and needs lots of flowers, etc > this > spring and summer. can yall post me some addresses and 1 800 > numbers to > order tons of flower catalogs and I would love to get a cataloge for > Lily Pond, I want an outdoor pond so bad. any help, tips, etc would You can genarally get all of the flowers and other fauna that you want from you local nursary. Be sure to check all of the discount houses around where you live and any nursary that may be off the beaten track. For instance I purchased some plants at a local nursary in a 1 gallon can for $5.00. Forty miles away I was getting 5 gallon cans (plants 3-5 times larger) for the same price. Also I found a wholesale nursary that caters to the public nearby and I was able to find some plants at a super reasonable price. Home Depot is sometimes an excellent source of plants too. Anton... --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: Aardwolf Express Fremont, Ca. (510) 797-8700 (1:215/56) @PATH: 106/9944 5 992 449 116 170/400 270/101 396/1 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1426) Mon 9 Jan 95 14:29 By: Anton Johnson To: John Clary Re: Addresses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TYPE:LOST AREA:HOME-N-GRDN > I bought my house two years ago and wanted to get the entire > landscaping job done in one summer. :) I did too much work and made > too many expensive mistakes. >