carapaces > between the nails of their thumb and forefinger. Don't forget somethings you can tell fast somethings take time to manafest. People always say I drink it and it didnot hurt me and then 10 yr. later and after drinking a lot, stuff happens. Some things come quick some things linger. If I had a choice between birth defects and cancer and weeds I would pick weeds everytime. There is ethics and there is money. > Don't forget to hand-pick the weevils from the flour this Thanksgiving. If you tried to hand pick the chemicals in the flour than you would think hand=picking the weevils would be easy. At least you can hand pick the weeviels better weevils than cancer. > > SInce 1930, our per-acre pesticide consumption has risen by 30 times and > > our crop losses to pests have *risen* 8% > > --- > > Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org or check out my homepage: http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html --- * Origin: [via Psychotronic BBS = Durham, NC = 919-286-4542]sustag- (1:3641/1) @PATH: 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (87) Fri 25 Nov 94 15:21 By: Sal Schettino To: All Re: Re: Round-Up Residue? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3641/223 0006ac8a @PID GIGO+ sn 175 at psybbs vsn 0.99 pl1 From: sals@rain.org (Sal Schettino) @Subject: Re: Round-Up Residue? Date: 25 Nov 1994 15:21:07 -0000 @Sender: daemon@bigblue.oit.unc.edu @Message-Id: @Mime-Version: 1.0 @Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The thing I don't understand is why a farmer would want to risk his own and his workers and his kids life. I welcome these comments because I want to know all I can about what this and that may do to me if I use it and what it may do to others and what its doing to the earth.. Keep the information commming. We were talking the other day about how pesticide makers may have to move somewhere else and make their poison. Little by little people are getting wise and more and more poison is being taking off the U.S. market. Now if they just use the poison in other countries think of the good deal we get. Poison their water and their soil and their people and just import the food here. That way the herbicides will be in there water and their soil will stay there, only the food comes here. Naw they wouldn't do that would they? You think all these trade deals that are going on make it easy to send the poison to other places where you just pay off the right people and you can use anything there and only the little bit that stays on the food comes back here. You think that if the EPA puts to much pressure on people that make bad chemicals they will just move across the border or to another land where labor is cheeper probably and they can use and make all the poison they want.They can make it there and use it there and send the food here and look how we will save . It would be cheeper than trying to clean our water up and our soil and our air . Let them have the doctor bills and clean up bills. By( them) I mean country dumb enough to let these people get away with this kind of wickness. Just thought I would put out a different spin on that one. You all know how this spin doctor thing works. I heard in some countries they spray so much chemicals it takes the paint right off the houses. On 21 Nov 1994, Jim Dixon wrote: > > contradict much of the data housed on glyphosates by both the IRPTC,> Extox, > and EPA. Another item missing from the data is that inert > ingredients are > _not_ listed and one ingredient found was to be > dioxane. Monsanto removed > dioxane when the Canadian EarthCare Society > took Monsanto to court. This was > removed from the glphosate products > used in B.C. I don't know if they removed > it from U.S. glyphosate > products. > > > > Jim > DG> Well heck, why don't we just ban all herbicides and go back to good old > DG> hand pulling of weeds. > > Who said anything about banning them? If you want to a cynuical old coot and > blow things out of un-informed proportions, do it in the flame echos. I'm noty > interested in seeing more than 10 million synthetic chemicals pourded into my > system without rhyme or reason except to provide employment for some chemical > engineers. > If you were more informed, instead of blasting out such dribble, you might > examine each chemical on it's own basis instead of being silly and suggesting > that one OK chem means they are al ok. > There is such a thing as weed control without chemicals and even tho chemicals > may keep a few employed, remember that te use of chemicals has not rid the > country of weeds, that not one insect has been erradicated nor has the use > improved quantity. It only improved quality in that people will now feel > compelled to buy a aprayed apple without scabs verses a healthier product with > a blemish. Oh yes, and sprays do keep the Cancer doctors and researchers in the > black. > > Goodbye > Jim > > Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org or check out my homepage: http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html --- * Origin: [via Psychotronic BBS = Durham, NC = 919-286-4542]sustag- (1:3641/1) @PATH: 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (88) Sun 4 Dec 94 13:15 By: James Meade To: All Re: Re: Ag Journalists Out There ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3641/223 0006acc3 @PID GIGO+ sn 175 at psybbs vsn 0.99 pl1 From: jnmeade@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (James Meade) @Subject: Re: Ag Journalists Out There Date: 4 Dec 1994 13:15:56 -0000 @Sender: daemon@bigblue.oit.unc.edu @Message-Id: @Mime-Version: 1.0 @Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mr Clark, Does inclusion in your catalog of ag journalists have anything to do with your operation of an ag journalism agency? I see you and your writers are getting active online, and wondered if this is a recruiting technique? Jim - Farmer - Iowa City, IA, jnmeade@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu On 2 Dec 1994, AGPR wrote: > In article <37m3ss$evo@umd5.umd.edu>, varner@yorick.umd.edu (Mark Varner) > writes: > > There's still time to be included in the international agricultural > communicator's e-mail directory... > > Please e-mail a bit about your interests to AGPR@aol.com if you would like > to be included in the directory...and receive a copy. > > --- * Origin: [via Psychotronic BBS = Durham, NC = 919-286-4542]sustag- (1:3641/1) @PATH: 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (89) Fri 2 Dec 94 19:34 By: PANNA InfoPubs To: All Re: PANUPS: MIC Still Stored in Virgini ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3641/223 0006accc @PID GIGO+ sn 175 at psybbs vsn 0.99 pl1 From: PANNA InfoPubs @Subject: PANUPS: MIC Still Stored in Virgini @Message-Id: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 1994 19:34:29 -0800 (PST) >From: PANNA InfoPubs ===================================== P A N U P S *** Pesticide Action Network North America Updates Service ===================================== Ten Years After Bhopal, Large Quantities of MIC Still Stored in West Virginia December 2, 1994 Ten years after the Bhopal disaster, Rhone-Poulenc's