message notice from this site: Gateway@bodyshop.co.uk Being in the uk, not sure you can do much about it! I also can't tell from the message content (since all we get is a notice) if the message in question ever made it into alt.sustainable.agriculture or the sustag mailing list. Probably did, but with no text I can't be sure. Later, Bruce --- QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Zeta-1) * Origin: * The H.O.M.E. BBS - (317) 539-6579 * (1:231/710) @PATH: 231/710 2880 50 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (590) Mon 26 Dec 94 19:40 By: Lawrence London To: Bruce Bowman Re: Gastinting St: Local Sent ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3641/1.502 b413776c @REPLY: 1:231/710 2EF40D5C @PID: FM 2.02 > Just wanted you to know that we seem to be getting the gated > messages now! However, we still occasionally will get a bounced > message notice from this site: > Gateway@bodyshop.co.uk This problem has been fixed. There will be no further gated messages in this echo. The gateway service has been discontinued. I sent the UK site mail to fix their end of the problem, then unsubscribed the site responsible for their feed from the list they were receiving. A belated Merry Christmas to everyone receiving this echo. May you all have a happy and productive new year; may your gardens and farms prosper and give you a bounty of great food. Lawrence EARTH*Net Host:SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE Echo FidoNet: 1:3641/1.502 Internet: london@sunSITE.unc.edu Chapel Hill, North Carolina --- * Origin: EARTH*Net-Host:SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE Echo (1:3641/1.502) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (602) Mon 26 Dec 94 16:37 By: Sheryl Moore To: Don Charron Re: alternative crops ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:147/180@fidonet.org cd11e141 how long is your growing season(days)my husband and i have run as many as 26 different vegetables in the past,on 4 acres,and finally settled on jalapenos,yellow squash and tomatoes after 15 years of experimenting in markets.if you would like,i have written a disk called "truck farming for dummies"(no insult intended) and will send a copy if you want it.it covers a lot of what we have learned the hard way about soils,crops,markets,and other aspects of truck farming that a lot of people do not consider before they jump into it.just send a disk and return postage to :sheryl moore,p.o. box 574,harrah,ok 73045 --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: MEDICUS BBS in Edmond, OK 405-478-8250 (1:147/180) @PATH: 147/180 20 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (603) Mon 26 Dec 94 16:39 By: Sheryl Moore To: Helen Fleischer Re: high low tech ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:147/180@fidonet.org cd11e142 sounds like it would make great mulch for potatoes,also.we used to use shredded newspapers for that. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: MEDICUS BBS in Edmond, OK 405-478-8250 (1:147/180) @PATH: 147/180 20 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (604) Sun 25 Dec 94 11:15 By: Ian Smith To: Dave Gardner Re: Round-Up Residue? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 3:711/431@fidonet f0a835b9 @REPLY: 1:137/105.0@fidonet 2ec9047c @PID: MaltEd 1.0.b5 DG> > lentils we grew. It tasted great until I was reminded that the crop DG> > was sprayed with Round-up (Glyphosate) 10 days prior to harvest. DG> > DG> > This is a registered application to dry down the crop and control DG> > weeds. Round-up is systemic, I would guess some makes its way into DG> > the grain. DG> > DG> > I'm interested to hear your oppinion on this. Should I be concerned? DG> I would not worry about the use of Round Up. However that is just my DG> opinion. On my bbs I have a subboard about pest control and lawn care. DG> There is a section of files on toxicology. You can download or freq the DG> file GLYPSATE.ZIP. This is from one of the extension offices and gives DG> all the toxicological information about Round Up. I once walked barefoot (unknowingly) over a paddock that had just been sprayed with RoundUp. Lost all the tough skin off both feet, down to fresh, pink skin, and spent a few weeks walking very gingerly indeed. Whether that was from the glyphosate or the unlisted surfactant - the one that was killing fish in streams in Canada, we heard - I know not, and care less. Bad news stuff. A friend has toxicology CDROMs from the Canadian EPA, which weren't too keen on it, either. The only time it's used around here (by 'progressive' folks, at least) is to protect around (non-edible) tree seedlings that people are trying to establish amongst the aggressive imported kikuyu grass that is our biggest weed problem here, for major replanting jobs where mulching each tree is seen as too big a job to be viable. Even that use remains controversial. Cheers, Ian --- * Origin: Ansanet Development - Lismore, Far East Australia (3:711/431) @PATH: 711/431 401 712/515 105/42 103 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (657) Tue 27 Dec 94 21:47 By: Don Charron To: Sheryl Moore Re: Alternative crops ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3413/107.0 2f00edf8 Our growing season fairly short. Approximately 120 days May through end of August (two years ago heavy snow Aug 20). Lots of sunshine though in summer. I am looking at some herbs that may be feasible and am looking at native grasses that can be used in oil reclamation sites. Disk on its way. Thanks. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Vermilion Lighthouse, Vermilion, AB (1:3413/107) @PATH: 3413/107 1000 3615/50 3641/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (688) Thu 29 Dec 94 21:01 By: Lawrence London To: ALL Re: Moderator & Echo Status St: Local Sent ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:3641/1.502 b594e33d @PID: FM 2.02 * Forwarded from "HOME-N-GRDN" * Originally by Sharon Allsup * Originally to All * Originally dated 20 Dec 1994, 15:50 For those who were wondering what happened to the HOME-N-GRDN echo, and where it stands now, here's a summary: The previous moderator, Bob Germer, requested that all of his echos be removed from Fidonet distribution. Although he kept the HOME-N-GRDN ELIST entry active, the echo was effectively split cut off at the Zone 8 (RBBS-Net) <> Fidonet gateway and no longer existed in Fidonet. A great deal of netmail was exchanged between sysops and the various backbone administrative folks trying to keep a "Homes & Gardens" style echo forum on the backbone or start a new one. Now that Germer had given up the Fidonet distribution, the echotag was available for re-use on our side of the gateway. A new ELIST entry was created using the same echotag (by accident, two new entries were created; Adrian has since deleted his). Adrian Walker, then Acting Z1EC, allowed the new HOME-N-GRDN to bypass the usual REC & node count requirements and go directly onto the backbone. It's taken several weeks of work and tracking by innumerable sysops and hubs (you all deserve congratulations) to restore the distribution paths within Fidonet for the echo. The almost 400 boards that receive this echo, and their feeds, did not have any warning when the echo was dropped and that simply added to the confusion and disarray. AIGH! But it's over with now and we're flowing again. As the ELISTed moderator of the new HOME-N-GRDN, I don't intend to make many, if any changes. The typical echo rules still apply: stay on topic; no flames, commercial ads, huge ANSI pictures, encrypted messages; and real names preferred. That's about it. We really don't NEED lots of restrictions, do we? Questions? Comments? :w! --- * Origin: EARTH*Net-Host:SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE Echo (1:3641/1.502) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (696) Wed 28 Dec 94 20:46 By: Helen Fleischer To: Sheryl Moore Re: high low tech ---------------------------------------------------------------------- @MSGID: 1:261/1137@fidonet.org ce15e7b1 SM> sounds like it would make great mulch for potatoes,also.we used to use SM> shredded newspapers for that. Really? I've never tried newspaper for that. I have always used partially-composted, shredded oak leaves. Can't use 'em for acid hating crops, but spuds seem to do well with it.