From ghegyes@nalusda.gov Thu Feb 24 10:15:18 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 22:27:04 -0500 (EST) From: Gabriel Hegyes To: SANET-mg Subject: News: Split Decision Ninety of you, or 16%, responded to the recent question about splitting SANET-mg. The final tally was 34 for a split, 51 for union, 4 neutral. Thank you all for your participation, and your patience. During the course of the discussion, an excellent suggestion was made: that we hold a formal vote after an official discussion of the most popular options. However, I fear that much more traffic on this administrative matter would tax your tolerance. I propose, therefore, that for a trial period of 90 days, we keep SANET-mg as is; we can always split later. I recommend that the following suggestions, which came from the group, be voluntarily followed: *Each posting include an additional identifier, NEWS, DISCUSSION or QUESTION, in the subject heading. For example, NEWS: LSP Job Listing, or QUESTION: K-12 SA Education. This request is not for rigid consistency, but for clarity; imagine the clues you'd like to see on a posting, honey or vinegar. *I encourage you to respond directly to the person with a request, question or comment. Save group postings for the times they are most needed. *Please keep public discourse civil. Most people have a low tolerance for the ad hominem or the ex cathedral; take the fights, and the posturing, outside. *Avail yourselves of the other sustainable agricultural lists. Contact Tom Hodges, sustag@beta.tricity.wsu.edu, or Larry London, london@calypso.oit.unc.edu, for more information about the lists they've created. These conferences might provide a different audience for some of your questions or comments. *Although the ALMANAC software used for SANET-mg does not easily provide the digest option, as LISTSERVE does, there is a way to scan the subject headings of SANET-mg's archives and order from Almanac the postings you'd like to read. That method is cumbersome. But, if someone would like to volunteer, I could explain to them how a daily or weekly index could be created and distributed. This contribution would be most welcomed by a number of SANET-mg readers. I hope these suggestions are acceptable to most of you. Of course, please feel free to comment or to suggest modifications. I have a feeling, though, that the great majority of you are as tired of this subject as you became with other recent overloads. Best regards, ------------------ Gabriel A. Hegyes Sustainable Agriculture Network ghegyes@wam.umd.edu From london@calypso Thu Feb 24 10:34:37 1994 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 10:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: Larry London To: Gabriel Hegyes Subject: Re: News: Split Decision On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Gabriel Hegyes wrote: > *I encourage you to respond directly to the person with a > request, question or comment. This will deprive many of us (most notably those who concatenate and archive sensible responses) of valuable feedback. > *Avail yourselves of the other sustainable agricultural lists. > Contact Tom Hodges, sustag@beta.tricity.wsu.edu, or Larry > London, london@calypso.oit.unc.edu, for more information That's london@sunsite.unc.edu; I doubt mail would get through to me at calypso. > *Although the ALMANAC software used for SANET-mg does not > easily provide the digest option, as LISTSERVE does, there is > a way to scan the subject headings of SANET-mg's archives and > order from Almanac the postings you'd like to read. > That method is cumbersome. But, if someone would like to > volunteer, I could explain to them how a daily or weekly > index could be created and distributed. This contribution > would be most welcomed by a number of SANET-mg readers. I archive all postings of sanet-mg here at sunSITE. They are easily accessed in archives of sanet-mg posts only or included in archives of alt.sustainable.agriculture to which sanet-mg has been gated read-only. Paths to archives: gopher sunsite.unc.edu The Worlds of SunSITE Sustainable Agriculture Information SunSITE Sustainable Agriculture Archives discussion-groups mailing-lists sanet-mg -or- newsgroups alt.sustainable.agriculture ftp paths: cd pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/discussion-groups cd mailing-lists/sanet-mg -or- cd newsgroups/alt.sustainable.agriculture Everything is accessable via Gopher, ftp, ftpmail, WAIS, WWW, and directly from me via e-mail. Gopher is the best way to get individual sanet-mg posts but batches of posts contained in individual files can be transferred via the other protocols. I've begun archiving a.s.a and sanet-mg by month, i.e. asa.Jan1994.1, asa.Jan1994.2, asa.Feb1994, etc. - Here is my latest guide: - sunSITE.unc.edu /pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/RESOURCES: -- Accessing FAQlists and other information on gardening, farming, -- rural skills, metalworking, woodworking, food, cooking & nutrition, -- alternative: healthcare, energy, architecture, housing, living, -- sustainable agriculture, ecology, environment, botany, biology -- and many other related subjects available at sunSITE.unc.edu. Anonymous ftp: ftp sunsite.unc.edu cd pub/academic cd agriculture/sustainable_agriculture -or- cd agriculture/rural-skills -or- cd medicine/alternative-healthcare -or- cd environment/alternative-energy/miscellaneous -or- cd environment/environmental-resources Telnet: telnet sunsite.unc.edu Login: gopher Enter term type: (vt100 works fine) -Gopher Menu- The Worlds of sunSITE Sustainable Agriculture Information SunSITE Sustainable Agriculture Information ->Rural Skills: etc. ->Alternative Energy ->Alternative Healthcare -and- The Worlds of SunSITE browse sunSITE archives academic agriculture sustainable_agriculture -or rural-skills The Worlds of sunSITE browse sunSITE archives academic environment alternative energy miscellaneous -or- environmental-resources The Worlds of sunSITE browse sunSITE archives academic medicine alternative healthcare Various Internet resources archived at sunSITE in the above directories: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Newsgroups and mailing lists: Alt.sustainable.agriculture provides newsgroup access to all traffic in the sustag-public and sanet-mg mailing lists plus all articles posted directly to that newsgroup. [Listed are host systems (i.e. mailing list server site address, mailing list name, and name of newsgroup that it's gated to, if at all] Mailing Lists: -------------- List name: sustag-public Host server: almanac@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Post articles to: sustag-public@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Gated read/write to: alt.sustainable.agriculture List name: sanet-mg (Sustainable Agriculture Network mail group) Host server: almanac@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Post articles to: sanet-mg@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Gated read-only to: alt.sustainable.agriculture List name: forage-mg Host server: almanac@oes.orst.edu Post articles to: forage-mg@oes.orst.edu Other mailing lists: wetnet soils-l agmodels-l agric-l envst-l dairy-l bee-l hydro-l devel-l indknow-l aqua-l marine-l gardens-l cohousing-l maxlife-l Usenet Newsgroups: ------------------ sci.agriculture alt.sustainable.agriculture alt.agriculture.misc alt.agriculture.fruit Others: rec.gardens misc.rural alt.folklore.herbs alt.co-evolution sci.bio sci.bio.ecology sci.geo.geology sci.geo.meteorology sci.aquaria bionet plants bionet mycology bionet photosynthesis bionet cellbiology bionet general bionet.agroforestry bionet.n2-fixation bionet.biology.tropical alt.architecture.alternative alt.housing.nontrad sci.energy misc.health.alternative sci.life-extension alt.health.ayurveda alt.folklore.gemstones alt.meditation rec.food.veg rec.food.veg.cooking sci.med.nutrition alt.food.fat-free Other mailing lists: -------------------- >From almanac@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu: renew-energy (Renewable Energy) nc-solar (North Carolina Solar Energy Resources) nat_med (Natural Medicine) env_res (Environmental Resources) Articles in all of the mailing lists and newsgroups listed above, FAQs and other information are archived at sunSITE. They are accesable by ftp, telnet, Gopher, WWW, WAIS & FTPMail. - For more information contact: Lawrence London london@sunSITE.unc.edu sunSITE ftp directories: /pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture /pub/academic/environment/environmental-resources /pub/academic/agriculture/rural-skills /pub/academic/environment/alternative-energy/miscellaneous /pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare Paul Jones Paul_Jones@unc.edu Office for Information Technology University of North Carolina Chapel, Hill, N.C.