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From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Amaranth
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I just got arround to reading Ogranic Gardening's April edition article
on Amaranth.  It is a very interesting article.  I get the notion from
reading the article that this is one plant that was known in the Americas
before Columbus, as well as in the old world.

The article mentions that there are two main species of grain amaranth,
_Amaranthus cruentus_ and _Amaranthus hypochondriacus_.  I make the 
hypothesis, after reading the article that _A. cruentus is the new 
world variety.  (I make this hypothesis after noting that several of
the _A. cruentus_ varieties are available from Native Seed.  So I
could be off base--It is just a wild guess.)  Can anybody provide 
more information?

Also, does anybody know of any sources for amaranth seed beyond those
given in the article.  (I like having a phone number--none of these
have a phone number.)

Also, does anybody have any information on millet, Quionia, or other
small grains?


Here are the sources they listed.

Abundant Life Seed Foundation
P.O. Box 772
Port Townsend, WA 98368
Catalog $2

Johnny's Selected Seeds
310 Foss Hill Road
Albion, ME 09410
Free Catalog

Native Seed/SEARCH
2509 N. Campbell Ave.
Tucson, AZ 85719
Catalog $1

Park Seed Co.
Cokesbury Road
Greenwood, SC 29647
Free catalog

Salt Spring Seeds
Box 33
Ganges, BC
Canada VOS 1E0
Catalog $2

Seeds of Change
1364 Ruffina Circle #5
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Catalog $3.


---
--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com

They moved all the streets around while you were sleeping last night.  




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dadams@cray.com (David Adams) writes:

 > I just got arround to reading Ogranic Gardening's April edition article
 > on Amaranth. ..............................................

                              [TEXT DELETED]

 > The article mentions that there are two main species of grain amaranth,
 > _Amaranthus cruentus_ and _Amaranthus hypochondriacus_.  I make the 
 > hypothesis, after reading the article that _A. cruentus is the new 
 > world variety.  (I make this hypothesis after noting that several of
 > the _A. cruentus_ varieties are available from Native Seed.  So I
 > could be off base--It is just a wild guess.)  Can anybody provide 
 > more information?

I suggest you try and read the books _AMARANTH : Modern Prospects for an
Ancient Crop_ by Report of an ad hoc panel of the Advisory Committee on
Technology Innovation, Board on Science and Technology for International
Development,Office of International Affairs, National Research Council
1985, 76 pages).

                            ------ AND ------

_Amaranth, from the Past for the Future_ by John N. Cole (c1979, 311
pages). Both of these books are from Rodale Press.

 > Also, does anybody know of any sources for amaranth seed beyond those
 > given in the article.  (I like having a phone number--none of these
 > have a phone number.)

        PLANTS OF THE SOUTHWEST                 [CAT - $2US]
        930 Baca Street
        Santa Fe, NM 87501
        (505) 983-1548

 > Also, does anybody have any information on millet, Quionia, or other
 > small grains?

The book _Small-Scale Grain Raising by Gene Logsdon (Rodale Press, c1977,
305 pages) MIGHT have some chapters you'd find interesting. Seeds of Change
sells both millet and Quinoa.

 > Here are the sources they listed.
 > 
 > Abundant Life Seed Foundation
TEL: (206) 385-7192

 > Johnny's Selected Seeds
TEL: (207) 437-4301
FAX: (207) 437-2165

 > Native Seed/SEARCH
TEL: (602) 327-9123

 > Park Seed Co.
TEL: (803) 223-7333

 > Salt Spring Seeds
TEL: (604) 537-5269	[NO TELEPHONE ORDERS]

 > Seeds of Change
TEL: (505) 438-8080
FAX: (505) 438-7052


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Bob Batson
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bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org                     |       Backup address
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Under the most controlled conditions, the experimental apparatus will do
exactly as it pleases.



Article 16812 of rec.gardens:
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From: bmoon@eis.calstate.edu (Bruce A. Moon)
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BOUNTIFUL GARDENS (707)459-6410 10-5PST
5798 Ridgewood Road
Willits, CA 95490
 Besides amaranth (3 varieties), they have quinoa, millet, buckwheat,
sorghum, oats, barley, cereal rye, wheat, oats, lentils, and senna. They
are part of no-profit organization, Ecology Action, so they are not quite
as some for-profits, but acceptable. I got may order in 2 weeks. The
prices are very reasonable. A nice feature for intensive gardeners is the
inclusion in the catalog of how many square feet a packet will plant.
Their catalog is free, but they have a bulk list they charge 50 cents for
(Have to remember to order it!)
Bruce Moon
Rio LInda, CA


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In article <1993May9.035932.20139@samba.oit.unc.edu> london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London) writes:
>In article <C6InLq.C5J@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> 
>parker@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Jim Parker) writes:
>>
>>The altitude here is over 5000 feet, at latitude greater than 50
>>degrees north. It cools off a lot at night, which is probably the
>>trouble. I am looking for cold weather high-altitude food plants
>>to try out.
>>I know that, for example, the Inca grew crop plants at very high
                                     ^^^^

The Inca _GROW_ crop plants at high altitude.  Inca peoples are very
much alive.

>>altitude, and am looking for this sort of plant.

>What about quinoa? I think it requires a cold climate and high altitude.
>There's a high altitude seed potato producer in Colorado.

Contact Colorado State Univ. for information on the variety "Dave Quinoa,"
which does not have the photoperiod sensitivy of many Bolivian and Peruvian
accessions.  Dave Quinoa is grown successfully in the Colorado Rockies and
in Canada.

Other high altitude "novel" species to consider: Oca (Oxalis tuberosa),
Arracacha (Arracacia xanthorrhiza), Maca (Lepidium meyenii), Ahipa 
(Pachyrrhizus ahipa), Yacon (Polymnia sonchifolia), Ulluco (Ullocos
tuberosus), Achira (Canna edulis) and Mashua (Tropaeolum tuberosum).
Consult Noel Vietmeyer's "Lost Crops of the Incas: Little-Known
Plants of the Andes with Promise for Worldwide Cultivation." Washington,
DC, National Academy Press (1989).

-Ricardo


Article 1191 of bionet.plants:
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In article <2533.2bf7b25a@mbcl.rutgers.edu> dushenkov@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:

>I would like to have Amaranthus seeds for my research purpose.

The obvious place to write is the Rodale Research Institute, Emmaus,
Pennsylvania.  You may also wish to try your luck with the USDA's
North Central Region Plant Introduction Station, Agronomy Hall, Iowa
State University, Ames, IA 50011-1010.  You can reach the Plant Intro
Station at 294-3255.

-Ricardo




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Amaranthus seeds

I would like to have Amaranthus seeds for my research purpose. Any one who
has the seeds or an access to the seeds of different species of Amaranthus may
 please write to me about the availability as soon as possible. Thanks very
much in advance. 


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It's a great little book written "to encourage the daily eating
of homemade bread through the weekly or biweekly baking of it
on a consistent and long therm basis."
The author assumes that you know the basics of bread making
and just provides the amounts needed in each recipe.
My brother gave this to me as a wedding present and it's 
proved to be one of my favorites.

The recipe is reproduced here WITHOUT the author's permission.


	  AMARANTH BREAD

Cook 1 C grain amaranth in 2 C water, covered, for 15-20 min.
--
1 T yeast in
2 C warm water
--
1/4 C sorghum or honey
1/4 C oil
--
1&1/2 T salt
1 C dry milk
--
2/3 C gluten flour           OR    5 C whole wheat flour
1&1/2 C amaranth flour             1-1&1/2 white flour
3 C whole wheat flour
2&1/2 C white flour
--
Bake at 350F for 50-55 min. 
This recipe makes 2 loaves of 1&3/4-2&1/4 lbs each.


I have not tried this recipe.  I usually cook up amaranth as
a breakfast cereal.  I like to "saute" it in a large cast iron
pot until it's brown then add water and cook.  very tasty

--
A. Buschhaus  bats@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Civ Engg - Hydraulics Lab, UW - Milwaukee, 53211
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In article <1993May4.133844.4439@hemlock.cray.com> dadams@cray.com writes:
>Has anybody ever used amaranth grain in any recipes?  Can it be 
>used in making bread?
>
>Do you have any recipes?
>
>(I'm thinking of growing some.)
>---
>--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
>
>They moved all the streets around while you were sleeping last night.  
>
>

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Civ Engg & Mech,  Hydraulics Lab |  {Audrey Horn - TP}
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** sorry first post was messed up ***

In article <1993May4.133844.4439@hemlock.cray.com> dadams@cray.com writes:
>Has anybody ever used amaranth grain in any recipes?  Can it be 
>used in making bread?
>
>Do you have any recipes?
>
>(I'm thinking of growing some.)
>---

I've only seen one recipe for Amaranth Bread.  It's in
"A Baker's Dozen of Daily Breads & More"
by Paul Novak, Only Connect Publications, 526 Glenway St.,
Madison, WI, 53711

It's a great little book written "to encourage the daily eating
of homemade bread through the weekly or biweekly baking of it
on a consistent and long therm basis."
The author assumes that you know the basics of bread making
and just provides the amounts needed in each recipe.
My brother gave this to me as a wedding present and it's 
proved to be one of my favorites.

The recipe is reproduced here WITHOUT the author's permission.


	  AMARANTH BREAD

Cook 1 C grain amaranth in 2 C water, covered, for 15-20 min.
--
1 T yeast in
2 C warm water
--
1/4 C sorghum or honey
1/4 C oil
--
1&1/2 T salt
1 C dry milk
--
2/3 C gluten flour           OR    5 C whole wheat flour
1&1/2 C amaranth flour             1-1&1/2 white flour
3 C whole wheat flour
2&1/2 C white flour
--
Bake at 350F for 50-55 min. 
This recipe makes 2 loaves of 1&3/4-2&1/4 lbs each.


I have not tried this recipe.  I usually cook up amaranth as
a breakfast cereal.  I like to "saute" it in a large cast iron
pot until it's brown then add water and cook.  very tasty

P.S. I'd really like a starter too.
-- 
A. Buschhaus  bats@convex.csd.uwm.edu
UW-Milwaukee - Hydraulics Lab,  WI, 53211


