From london@calypso-2 Mon Mar 14 16:30:28 1994 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:59:33 -0500 (EST) From: Larry London To: permaculture-mg@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Subject: Permaculture Defined Status: O X-Status: A Definition of Permaculture ---------------------------- From: Dr. Lee Barnes Editor of: "The Permaculture Connections: Southeastern Permaculture Network News" P.O. Box 1303 Waynesville, N.C., 28786 Telephone: 1-704-452-5716 $10.00/year, 8 page Quarterly Permaculture ("Perm"anent "agri"culture and "Perma"nent "culture") is a sustainable design system stressing the harmonious interrelationship of humans, plants, animals and the Earth. To paraphrase the founder of Permaculture, designer Bill Mollison: "Permaculture principles focus on thoughtful designs for small-scale intensive systems which are labor efficient and which use biological resources instead of fossil fuels. Designs stress ecological connections and closed energy and material loops. The core of permaculture is design and the working relationships and connections between all things. Each component in a system performs multiple functions, and each function is supported by many elements. Key to efficient design is observation and replication of natural ecosystems, where designers maximize diversity with polycultures, stress efficient energy planning for houses and settlement, using and accelerating natural plant succession, and increasing the highly productive "edge-zones" within the system." Permaculture designs have been successfully and widely implemented in third-world countries, but there is current need to expand these principles in temperate climates, and especially urban areas to create more enjoyable and sustainable human habitats. 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From london@calypso-2 Mon Mar 14 16:31:09 1994 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: Larry London To: permaculture-mg@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Subject: Permaculture information archived at sunSITE.unc.edu (GUIDE) Status: O X-Status: GUIDE ----- At sunSITE.unc.edu: Newsgroup, mailing-list, newsletter archives, documents and FAQs on sustainable agriculture, permaculture, IPM, landscaping, gardening, farming, rural skills, horticulture, metalworking, woodworking, housebuilding, food, cooking, nutrition, ecology, environment and alternative: healthcare, energy, architecture, housing, living. 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From london@calypso-2 Mon Mar 14 16:33:38 1994 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:40:46 -0500 From: Larry London To: permaculture-mg@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Subject: Permaculture-related documents at sunSITE.unc.edu. Status: O X-Status: Files in /pub/academic/agriculture/sustainable_agriculture/permaculture at sunSITE.unc.edu: [See /permaculture/GUIDE for access information] - CGER.Living-Machines landscaping4wildlife.s-v Ecosystem.Management neem INDEX permaculture.background Q-and-A/ permaculture.defined README permaculture.discussion-group azolla.request4info permaculture.forage-crops bats permaculture.resources csa.software recommended-reading discussion-groups/ watershed.management.1 earth.ponds.info watershed.management.2 earthponds.info.01 watershed.management.3 edible.flowers watershed.management.4 erosion.control.vetiver watershed.management.5 forage-from-trees watershed.management.6 growing.flowers4market wildlife.plantings hardiness.zones.maps woodland.ecology.book journals-articles Q-and-A: rfi.1 rfi.2 discussion-groups/mailing-lists/permaculture-mg/1994: p-mg.Mar1994.1 - london@sunSITE.unc.edu From andy@ecn.purdue.edu Mon Mar 14 16:35:09 1994 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 14:59:55 -0500 From: andy@ecn.purdue.edu To: permaculture-mg@twosocks.ces.ncsu.edu Subject: DISCUSSION: permaculture (NOT from an academic point of view) Status: O X-Status: I recently asked Larry London about what Permaculture is. Based on the statement in his reply that follows, this is exactly the kind of thing I am interested in learning more about. However, I do not intend to try to justify my interest in understanding and supporting the permaculture concept to the academic world. For me the definition sounds holistic and seems to try to be in tune with the natural order, rather than trying to subdue (and in some cases destroy) nature as our present chemical based agricuture does. Here are some simple rules of thumb I am trying to apply in judging if I approve and support a certain way of growing food... Are the people affecting the food I eat interested in providing the most wholesome food they can for me and my family (which I consider one aspect of excellence in this area), or are their actions motivated by taking more profit? Secondly, I ask... Does the method of raising the food work in conjunction with nature or against it? I know there are many questions that such a philosophy implies, but these principles have become important to me, and in my opinion much of our current food system falls far short. Therefore, I volunteer in my spare time and subscribe to a local organic farm, shop for organic food at the local food coop, and try to learn more about growing organicially. I hope to use this forum to share my views and find out what others have to say about this topic... Here is part of Larry's mail to me... andy@ecn.purdue.edu ======== >Permaculture defined (in brief): > >From: > >Dr. Lee Barnes >Editor of: >"The Permaculture Connections: Southeastern Permaculture Network News" >P.O. Box 1303 >Waynesville, N.C., 28786 >Telephone: 1-704-452-5716 >$10.00/year, 8 page Quarterly > >Permaculture ("Perm"anent "agri"culture and "Perma"nent "culture") >is a sustainable design system stressing the harmonious interrelationship >of humans, plants, animals and the Earth. To paraphrase the founder of >Permaculture, designer Bill Mollison: > >"Permaculture principles focus on thoughtful designs for small-scale >intensive systems which are labor efficient and which use biological >resources instead of fossil fuels. Designs stress ecological connections >and closed energy and material loops. The core of permaculture is design >and the working relationships and connections between all things. Each >component in a system performs multiple functions, and each function is >supported by many elements. Key to efficient design is observation and >replication of natural ecosystems, where designers maximize diversity >with polycultures, stress efficient energy planning for houses and >settlement, using and accelerating natural plant succession, and >increasing the highly productive "edge-zones" within the system." > >Permaculture designs have been successfully and widely implemented in >third-world countries, but there is current need to expand these >principles in temperate climates, and especially urban areas to create >more enjoyable and sustainable human habitats.