Subject: Re: No Mail

From: "[email-masked] 415.855.5707" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 07:12:32 -0800 (PST)

>     George,
> 
>     I haven't recieved any mail from TheForge for two days. Are you off
>     the air or has my name been deleted? Please get me started again.
> 
>     Bob Ehrenberger

Interesting, every time I post to the list I get the following response:

Confirming-MTS-Message-ID: </C=US/AD=ATTMAIL;internet1131733340>
Not-Delivered-To:
mhs!mc/G=Robert/S=Ehrenberger/OU1=0205350/RECIPNUM=1/[email-masked] due
to code 10 "Invalid Parameters";
	arrived Mon Apr 22 11:45:14 -0500 1996;
	Supplementary-Info "Unable to deliver mail due to unknown post office"

(My post succeeds)

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From: Michael Spencer <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 16:17:33 EDT

> mhs!mc/G=Robert/S=Ehrenberger/OU1=0205350/RECIPNUM=1/[email-masked] du

It looks like the email address used by Robert Ehrenberger is either
composed by his system incorrectly for internet gating, is interpreted
incorrectly by the wugate listserv or wugate's correct
interpretation is misinterpreted by his own local mail X400 mail
gateway at AT&T.

It also looks like the AT&T mail daemon is sending error report to the
address in the From: field of messages distributed by the list. If
George could contrive to get an Errors-to: field automatically put
into the headers before the wugate listserv distributes a posting, (and if
the AT&T daemon recognizes such a field) all such error messages could
probably be redirected to him.  Then he could contact the person with
the address problem directly and straighten it out.

And if you're getting this, Bob (Ehrenberger ), you might ask your
system manager about the problem. I think there are a lot of pitfalls
in gating internet mail to X400 and you may need to do some kind of
hack with your return address to get wugate to do the right thing.

- Mike

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Michael Spencer               (902) 543-8375
[email-masked]
URL: http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/mspencer/home.html
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From: "Szucs" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:01:51 -0400

> interpretation is misinterpreted by his own local mail X400 mail
	I'd bet that it's the AT&T gateway.  It's notorious for its
	poor behavior, hence earning the name "black hole".  That's
	the first place I'd ask.  It's not as bad as it was 4 years
	ago, but it is still pretty flakey at times.  I'd send mail
	to the [email-masked] and see what comes back.

	BTW, I've been getting these messages about Bob Ehrenberger
	as well.

	-Andy V.