Subject: midwest tool collectors and etc

From: Tom Vincent <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 23:22:17 -0500 (CDT)

Fortunately, I don't check my mail often:
Midwest Tool Collectors Association
send membership app ($20 I think, my magazine didn't say) to:
William Rigler, Treasurer
Rt. 2, Box 152
Wartrace, TN 37183
Quarterly magazine, catalog reprints, many meetings. Worth it if you like
old tools, but mostly wood working.
--
Dan Nibbelink
RedHawk Forge
Berthoud, Colorado
[email-masked]
http://www.csn.net/~dannibb

You learn the darndest things teaching classes.

In re: the discussion of uri's demo at Albany. One of my students allowed 
as how the best punch he ever saw was made from the bullet (not the 
shell) of an armor piercing round hot set into the end of a 1/2" mild 
steel rod. This raises a number of questions such as the availability of 
armor piercing shells on the open market, to the picture of me trying to 
safely extract such a piece from the shell. However of such a piece were 
in some way forgable and/or weldable-I'm outta my league here. This 
fellow said such rounds were commonly available at military surplus 
stores. Please don't anybody play with this idea unless you know 
something about it.

2) One of my students fathers is a chemist involved in soaps, and said 
that he was not sure, but he believed that P&G may have recently 
reformulated Dawn dishwashing detergent, possibly in such a way as to 
affect the virtues of Rob Gunters quench. I don't know how to verify 
either assertion, but perhaps Robb or others are in a position to 
retest/research the question. Or we may all be disappointed. Tom

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From: [email-masked] (Frost, Jerry)
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 23:25:27 -0800

Tom Vincent wrote:
> Good tip, .50cal armor piercing (black tip) are commonly available at 
surplus stores, as novelty items, they're not live rounds! Powder and 
primer are removed and a hole is drilled in the case to make reloading 
impractical, as AP is illegal. I doubt you'll find .30cal as the bullet 
could easily be reloaded but I've seen .50s often and on occasion 20mm 
and 30mm rounds.

Just look for the hole in the case, usually with a key ring in it and 
the black tip. You can pull the bullet safely, mount it and you'll have 
a 1/2" punch. 

As to welding and forging, I doubt either will work but I don't know 
what .50 AP rounds are made of. I think I'll sweat one into a rod and 
give it a try, heck the 20&30mm should make great drifts.

Frosty
-- 
If it ain't forged
It ain't real
wrought iron is
The FROSTWORKS