Subject: Re: blacksmithing

From: Noel Gregg <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:00:19 +1200

At 09:25 AM 15/03/96 EST, you wrote:
>To All,
>Blacksmithing by historical definitions requires that heating and 
>beating be at least part of the process. When limited sizes and 
>compositions were available, all work wether incised or forged to 
>shape were made by the blacksmth. The cut and paste method seems to 
>be in violation of this concept. Metalworking, as a general category, 
>opens up a whole new area for discussion, similar to what is art. 
>Junk is junk by any method and education may be one of our 
>responsibilities.
>
>Regards,
>
> Bill Hochella
>to all ,
Art and Blacksmithing has about the same criteria that is if I or you make
something and call it art or blacksmithing then it must be judged as such,
because we are the makerand we have the say Then you all can say, if it is
good or bad blacksmithing or if it is good or bad art.Noel Gregg NZ. 
Regards

Noel Gregg

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From: "Joe B. McGlynn (415) 855-5707" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:25:55 -0800 (PST)

Thanks to all who responded with their thoughts on my forge project.  

The universal consensus seems to be to skip the air compressor and use almost
any blower moter or bellows instead.  Sounds cool to me, I just thought that
since I already *HAVE* an air compressor it might be simpler for me to use
it...  Oh well.  

I am off to a CBA workshop on basic forge practice tomorrow, should be fun.  I
love beating on cold metal, hot should be even better!

(and to the guy who "slammed" me for re-inventing the wheel, come on, give me a
break!)

Joe

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From: Tom Vincent <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 09:47:50 -0600 (CST)

Since you already have an air compressor, might I suggest a 
sandblaster/sandblasting chamber instead. Useful, and an interesting shop 
challege as well. Tom

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From: "Joe B. McGlynn (415) 855-5707" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:36:17 -0800 (PST)

> sandblaster/sandblasting chamber instead. Useful, and an interesting shop 

Already have one, and yes it is a great asset.  I often get to fabrcate things
(brackets, etc) and if I am using hot rolled steel I bead blast it before
welding to remove the mill scale.  This weekend I had to fabricate some parts
for a land speed race car oil pan, I welded them carefully and then bead
blasted them and they looked super!

For anyone that doesn't know, TIP sells nice cabinest *AND* plans to build your
own.

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From: Robert Silverman <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:42:33 -0500 (EST)

> > ... and if I am using hot rolled steel I bead blast it before
Wanted to know what bead blasting is? I've not heard the term (perhaps 
not surprising as I apprenticed with a retired Italian blacksmith, and 
communicated in French, both having adopted  Quebec (Canada) as our home.
Luckily much of the learning is in the watching and the doing...)

Tara McMurtry

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From: Tom Vincent <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:34:12 -0600 (CST)

And how would one contact TIP?