Subject: Re: Re-use of material from TheForge

From: [email-masked] (George Dixon)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:34:12 -0500

Hi,
I have used some submissions in the upcoming Hammers' Blow issue.  In that
case I e-mailed each person whose submission I wanted to use and asked for
permission to use it.  I also cited their name and theforge when the topic
was used.  I wouldn't want to see the flow of information impacted by the
assumption that this can be used without asking the contributor first and
an e-mail is a simple way to get permission.  Just a thought...........
George Dixon

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From: [email-masked] (Clay Spencer)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 10:08:21 -0600

At 9:33 PM 2/13/96, [email-masked] wrote:
>I would like to raise a topic for discusion.  I have belonged to TheForge
>since the end of December.  I am a newsletter editor and let me tell you
>I feel like I have fallen into a goldmine.  There is a wonderful wealth
>of information here.  Anyone who has been an editor or has been with
>earshot of a current editor knows the trouble we have finding new and
>fresh material for our newsletters.  I was all set to just go ahead and
>compile and extract material from the various discusions which have been
>going on here in TheForge.  Then it occured to me, maybe I had better
>double check that such use is alright with those who originally posted.
>
>Is there anyone out there who has been posting data to this forum who
>would take umbrage at having their postings reprinted in chapter
>newsletters?  If this is a concern for some, should there be an
>understanding that any information that is NOT to be reprinted, should
>have a disclaimer attached at the beginning of those particular posts?

As editor of The Bituminous Bits, newsletter of the Alabama Forge Council,
I, too, would like to have permission from all contributors to use some of
the postings in the BB, with credit given to the author and theforge as the
source.
If you object please let us know.
Clay

Clay Spencer
Treadle Hammer Man
Editor, The Bituminous Bits, the Journal of the Alabama Forge Council

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:29:50 PST

On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:33:34 -0500 (EST)  [email-masked] 
wrote:
>
>I am a newsletter editor and let me tell you 
>fresh material for our newsletters.

I agree, I compile a GREAT deal of material from the various metal 
mailing lists and usenet groups for the UMBA Journal.  Without it, I 
would be in serious hurt. 

>Then it occured to me, maybe I had better 

Material posted to public mailing lists and usenet groups is "public."  
You can reprint that without any worry of copyright infringement etc., 
UNLESS the poster has specifically said that the article they posted is 
copyrighted.  In which case, drop em' a note and ask for permission.  

>should I have a disclaimer attached at the beginning of those particular 
>posts?

Speaking only for myself, I always list the author(s) and the forum 
wherein I obtained the material.  It I run a really big article that 
someone wrote and posted, I send them a copy of the issue.  Everyone 
likes to see their work in print!

>Am I making a mountain out of a molehill 

Could be....  But isn't it always better to check it out rather than 
worry about it?

>I have noticed that a number of other editors belong and participate,  
>what are your thoughts along these lines?  
>
>Albin Drzewianowski
>Editor, BLACKSMITH GUILD OF CENTRAL MARYLAND
>Westminster, MD
>
>	"When all else fails, use a bigger hammer."

I have found ABANA's mailing list and ArtMetals mailing list to be an 
INCREDIBLE source of information for the members of UMBA.  Everything 
from tips, tools and techniques to announcements of upcoming meets, to 
philisophical ramblings of an extreme nature.  It is very easy to think 
"everyone" is online, but surprisingly few people in my chapter are 
actually on line and many of them really appreciate access to the 
information this forum provides.  They often don't "understand it" (you 
mean people post this stuff for free?!?!?) but they appreciate access to 
it, if indirectly. It sounds to me as if you have the right idea.  Use 
the material, but always give credit to its source. 

The stuff posted on the web sites themselves, however, may be a different 
story.  Make certain to check the copyright info on them.  At ArtMetal, 
you can reprint material only if you follow certain guidelines of 
presentation.  These include the ArtMetal logo appearing prominantly, 
etc.  By no means difficult to do but worth keeping in mind.  I don't 
know if ABANA has similar rules, I haven't checked yet.

Good Question!
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