Subject: A Study Proposal

From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 96 20:13:28 PST

I tried to send this just the other day.  But something ATE it.  A friend 
of mine proposed a study to me, and together we would like to pursue it.  
He is not on-line, but wrote up a proposal that spells it out fairly 
clearly.  If anyone knows where to get the information we seek WITHOUT 
going through this proposal, please let me know.  It is a study of the 
effects of different forging forces on metal and I am certain some may 
have done it before.  Here is the proposal:

********Volunteers wanted for metallurgical study**************

For the purpose of expanding available knowledge regarding properties 
imparted to steel by various means of forming, volunteers are being 
sought to assist in a scientific study.  

The study will consist of samples being drawn from a common bar of 1018 
mild steel and either casting, light power hammering, heavy power 
hammering, roll pressing, or hydraulic pressing samples into similar 
(smaller) stock sizes.  Following these procedures, the processed samples 
will be tested for density, RC hardness, tensile strength, and 
resilience, before and after normalizing, to accurately asses the 
metallurgical effects of these various forming methods.

This study is a collaborative effort between scientific smiths of limited 
means.  Therefore, we are attempting to maintain the highest scientific 
accuracy with the resources available.  To this end, interested parties 
with access to rolling mill, heavy power hammer, hydraulic press capable 
of consistently reducing a stock size, RC testing, or micrography 
equipment are requested to respond.

Information from this study will be made available to all interested 
parties, and the participation of individuals for lab, technical, or 
other pertinent expertise will be greatly appreciated.

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Name: Franklyn D. Garland        A Hobby Is Hard work
E-mail: [email-masked]          You wouldn't Do For
Date: 02/07/96                     A Living.
Time: 20:13:28

http://www.mcs.net/~frnklyn/homepage/
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 04:00:32 -0500

To All,
This work has been done for the past 100 years or so with some regularity.
The ASM Metals Handbook should have some of this data already assembled.
Which volume depends on which edition. Major libraries should have the
complete set. A lot of work has been done with forging, extrution, rolling
and wire drawing with respect to the amount of reduction in area per pass at
different die angles or roll diameters. Roger Wright at Rensaler and Betzal
Avitzur at Lehigh are the current guru's on this type of work. The Wire
Journal is a favorite place to look for articles. 
This study would not even be a good Senoir Project because of he amount of
work that has been already done. I have done a lot of work myself on the
annealing response of 1018 at different temperatures with varying degrees of
cold work using different die angles.
A little research will provide a lot of data.

Regards,

Bill Hochella

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:26:43 -0500

Franklyn Garland   re: Met. Study of Mild Steel Properties;
The results of your proposed study and MUCH more on the subject is available
thru the ASM, Materials Park, Ohio 44703-0002.  Data accumulated and supplied
originally from the steel mills and currently from white papers translated
from engineers and scientists from around the world is available on the
properties which you plan to examin and far more, (cast then forged, warm
working curves, cold working curves, static cast vs. concast vs. bottom
poured, etc.). 
ASM can be reached by internet email for material questions and problems:
              [email-masked] 
and if you are interested in ASM activities;
              [email-masked]
Good luck,
Mike Schermerhorn

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 06:42:41 PST

On Thu, 8 Feb 1996 04:00:32 -0500  [email-masked] wrote:
> I have done a lot of work myself on the

Thank You,

As I said, I hoped someone had knowledge of where the information could 
be found.  If you search under "Metal" in a library database you eyeballs 
begin to smoke!!  Now that I now of a name and a journal, it will be much 
easier to find.

>This study would not even be a good Senoir Project because of he amount 
>of work that has been already done.  

Well, gosh, no need to get huffy.....  If you don't ask the questions, 
you don't get the answers....

Thanks again...
Date: 02/10/96                     A Living.
Time: 06:42:41

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From: [email-masked] (MR WILLIAM A HOCHELLA)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:13:49 EST

To All,
Allow me to apologize for being snippy.

Regards,
Bill Hochella

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 08:04:03 PST

>and if you are interested in ASM activities;

Thank You, it looks like "I am going back to school."
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Name: Franklyn D. Garland        A Hobby Is Hard work
E-mail: [email-masked]          You wouldn't Do For
Date: 02/15/96                     A Living.
Time: 08:04:03