Subject: Re: Need help making grapes

From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:09:17 -0500

Rusty,
There is a place called Industria Italoamericana Arteferro 1-800-772-4706
that have hammered grapes but they are weld to a stim and then weld to a
center vine (MIG) With a stamped leaf. They look good but the only forged 
part is the grape itself. 
I have made a grape cluster myself similar to Industria, But if you want to 
do right forge your grapes then forge weld them to a center vine it can be
done.

                                                        Forge On !
                                                          Travis

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 96 10:47:14 CST

On Sat, 23 Mar 1996 08:54:50 -0800  Russell McCrackin wrote:

>Would appreciate any help.  Is there a source of a casting?  Have you 
>hammered a bunch of grapes with leaves?  I amy have to round the end of 
>some round stock, cut it off, repeat until I have enough "grapes," then
>acetlyne weld them together, but that doesn't sound like the best way.

An advertiser in the Anvils Ring sells castings of that type if you wish 
to go that route.  You could also weld collars to round stock and forge 
round.  Or neck down, draw out the stem and forge the large end round.  
OR you could anneal a handfull of small ball bearings, weld (stick or 
torch) stems to them and bundle together.  This is a modern fabrication 
technique.  It works well but lacks any of the character you get from 
forging.  You MUST anneal the ball bearings first, otherwise they may 
explode when welded to the stems.

Have you thought of Repousse?  Making the grape bundle from sheet metal?

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From: [email-masked] (Clay Spencer)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:56:39 -0500

At 8:54 AM 3/23/96, Russell McCrackin wrote:
>I have a customer that wants a grape design on the ends of a drapery rod.
>Would appreciate any help.
Rusty
First make a ball swage or grape swage for the size of grapes you need. See
Hammers Blow, Winter 1996 issue, Volume 4, No. 1, which was mailed out
earlier this month, for instructions on making a swage. Use a ball bearing
as the die master. Grind and file a notch for a stem.
Forge you up a pile of grapes with stems on them.
Weld the stems together to make your bunch of grapes.
Clay

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From: "John W. Pollins, III" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:09:00 -0500 (EST)

-Use a bunch of 1/2 inch knock outs from a fabricating shop. (free or $1/bucket)
-Lay them out in an appropriate size tapered bottom swage. (If your swage
block doesn't have a tapered cone , forge one out of plate)
-Mig,Tig,Gas or Arc weld from the back in the swage.
-Heat and final forge.
-weld units back to back for 3 dimension effect.

                        Pollins