Subject: FAQ part 4 of 4

From: [email-masked] (Jim Kirkpatrick)
Date: 1 Mar 94 12:57:52 MST

This is the FAQ for rec.crafts.metalworking.  It currently is in four
pieces to keep the overall size of each part below the limits imposed
by some news systems.  This is part 4 of 4.

A tiny bit of history:  there exists a group trial.rec.metalworking,
but few sites pick up the "trial" feed.  Also, the trial method of
group creation sort of died of neglect, so this group (rec.crafts.metalworking)
was created to take its place and become an official wide-spread group.

Many thanks to those who have contributed (in no particular order):
Matthew Jones, Bill Brown, Phil OKunewick, Tim Eisele, Steve Gaudio,
Stu Friedberg.  Also, I've been grabbing bits from postings and copying
them into the FAQ, such as book reviews and more addresses, so thanks to
many more!

Generally, units below are United States dollars, degrees Fahrenheit,
and all the other silly backwards units we Americans still use.  Sorry.

The questions being answered in part 1:

1.  The original rec.crafts.metalworking charter.
2.  The CLOCKS bitnet mailing list, and other related lists.
3.  What are some good books and/or video tapes on metalworking?
4.  Who makes good lathes/mills/etc?
5.  Where do I buy a machine?
6.  What are good magazines to subscribe to?
7.  Where might one take classes or get instruction?
8.  Where can I get raw material for my projects?
9.  Where can I get tools, drill bits, etc.?
10. What are some of the related professional/hobby associations?
11. How do I harden/temper metal?

The questions being answered in part 2:

12  How do I wire up this strange motor?
13. How do I deal with mail-order suppliers?
14. How to sharpen knives, chisels, and other tools?
15. Some safety reminders.
16. How do I drill round holes?
17. What's TIG and MIG?
18. MIG welding technique.

The questions being answered in part 3:

19. Which MIG welder should I buy?
20. Books on welding.
21. Soldering/brazing topics.
22. What are bolt grades?
23. What is XYZ made of?
24. How do I build a furnace or forge?
25. What is Damascus steel?
26. How do I repair/replace this old leather belt?
27. Can I use a drill press as a cheap vertical mill?
28. What is involved in building a steam engine?
29. How do I anodize aluminum?

The question being answered in part 4:

99. Names and addresses of publishers and suppliers
    (OK, so I got tired of re-numbering it every time a new
    question was added!)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

99.  Names and addresses of publishers and suppliers (with special thanks
     to Stu Friedberg).

     Note also that a potential source of manufacturers/suppliers is the
     Thomas Register, found in most public libraries.

 --  Special entry:  Not a company or anything, but for more info on
     crafts supplies, send e-mail to [email-masked]
     and put "WANTED:" at the beginning of the subject line.  This is
     a non-profit service of PEI Crafts Council in Charlottetown,
     Price Edward Island, Canada.  They maintain a list of crafts
     suppliers and can answer questions like "give me a list of ceramics
     suppliers East of the Mississippi" or "who sells ConeArt kilns?"
     (per a post 9-Nov-1993)

   -  Allcraft Tool & Supply
      666 Pacific St.
      Brooklyn, NY 11217
      (800)645-7124, (718)789-2800

      Tools for jewelry-making, perhaps more.

   -  Allied Devices Corporation
      2365 Milburn Ave
      P.O. Box 502
      Baldwin, New York 11510
      (516) 223-9100, (516) 223-9172 (FAX)

      "Standard Precision Mechanical Components" such as small gears.
      Reputedly not cheap, but Small Parts Inc isn't either.

   -  American Watchmakers-Clockmakers Institute (AWI)
      P.O. Box 11011
      Cincinnati, OH 45211
      (513) 661-3838, (513) 661-3131 (FAX)

      Membership is around $45 or so per year.  They have an excellent
      magazine, Horological Times.  Their orientation is more towards
      watch/clock repair.  They offer many courses along those lines.
      The "Project Extended" courses are given in Cincinnati, but they
      have many other courses (around 5 days) given around the country.
      They have at least 100 videotapes on various aspects of lathe work
      and clock repair.

   -  ARE, Inc.
      Box 8
      Greensboro Bend, VT 05842
      (800)736-4273, (802)533-7007, (802)533-7008 fax

      Tools for jewelry-making, perhaps more.  Catalog is $4.

   -  Argus Books
      P.O. Box 35 Wolsey House
      Wolsey Road, Hemel Hempstead
      Herts HP2 4SS England
      Telephone: Hemel Hempstead (0442)66551

      Publishers of Model Engineer in England.  Heavy on live-steam model
      trains, mostly machining topics, some interesting plans.

   -  Blue Ridge Machinery and Tools, Inc.
      PO Box 536
      2806 Putnam Avenue
      Hurricane, WV  25516
      800-872-6500, 304-562-3538 in WV, 304-562-5311 (fax)
      Credit cards, COD's up to $200
      M,W,F 9-5 EST, Tu,Th 9-9 EST

      Lathes, milling machines, presses, brakes, from puny to industrial.
      Accessories and parts for popular machines from Myford, South Bend,
      Atlas, Sherline, Emco-Maier, etc.
      Hand tools and books of interest to hobbyists and professionals.
      Woodworking power tools
      Steel, brass, aluminum, tool steel in small quantities.

      110 page catalog

   -  J. C. Boegeman
      1464 S. Warner Dr.
      Apache Junction, AZ  85220
      (602) 982-8436

      Discontinued parts for Atlas, Craftsman, Clausing lathes.
      Quadrants, reverse gear boxes, lead screws, half-nuts,
      spindles, steady rests, and so on.  No catalog, so call.

   -  Borel and Frei
      712 S. Olive St.
      Los Angeles, CA 90014
      (800)654-9591, (213)689-7007, (213)533-7008 fax

      Tools for jewelry-making, perhaps more.  Also have a Kansas City office,
      details to follow.

   -  Bourget Bros.
      Lapidary and Jeweler's Supplies
      1636 11th St.
      Santa Monica, CA 90404
      (800)828-3024

   -  Brownells
      Route 2 Box 1
      200 South Front Street
      Montezuma, Iowa, 50171
      (515) 623-5401, (515) 623-3896 (FAX)

      Brownells is a fine firm that specializes in gunsmithing, though
      a lot of their merchandise is great for general-purpose metalworking.
      Catalog is $4.00, refundable with first order of $40 or more
      (but if you can convince them you are a dealer, then it is free).
      They have lower prices for gun dealers, "enciphered" in the catalog
      in a manner similar to the following --
         Item: Foo Bar Grips    an9xx20dd      Price: $19.95
      means list price is $19.95, dealer price is $9.20.  However, in
      recent catalogs they have changed the coding on some items.
      While some people have apparently convinced them they are a dealer,
      the usual requirement seems to be an FFL (Federal Firearms License)
      before they sell for the dealer price.

   -  Campbell Tools, Inc.
      2100-H Selma Rd.
      Springfield, OH 45505
      (513) 322-8562

      A machine supplier attuned to the hobbyist metalworker.  They carry
      Sherline, Emco, Jet, and other machines.  Also books, hardware,
      raw materials, etc.  Highly recommended by one net reader.

   -  Cardinal Engineering Inc
      RR #1, Box 163
      Cameron, IL 61423
      (309) 342-7474, (309) 342-3182 (FAX)

      Supplier of various metals, but they also can supply CNC mills
      and/or kits to convert existing milling machines.  Also some CNC
      lathe work.  Several articles in recent years in HSM regarding
      CNC conversions were written by the folks at Cardinal.

   -  Centaur Forge Ltd.
      P.O. Box 340
      117 N. Spring Street
      Burlington, WI  53105
      (414) 763-9175, (414) 763-8350 (FAX)

      Publications concentrate on forging, blacksmithing, though all aspects of
      metalworking are covered.  A good, well-organized collection.
      They also publish a magazine, Anvil (see earlier section).

      Centaur Forge is the source for blacksmithing supplies from tongs to
      furnaces.  Also a source of horse shoeing supplies.

   -  Cole's Power Models
      P.O. Box 788
      Ventura, CA  93001
      (805) 643-7065

      Castings, books, supplies, accessories.  For trains,
      stationary steam, gasoline engines.  The catalog costs $4.

   -  Condar Co.
      10500 Industrial Drive
      Garrettsville, OH 44231
      (216) 527-4343

      They sell a pyrometer (high-temp thermometer) for gas forges and such,
      Unit 9-85 which comes with a 6-foot 2200-degree probe for $60.  They
      also have a high temp probe (3000 degrees; Unit 14S4-1, $17).  Probably
      lots of other related items, but this came up in discussion on
      low-cost pyrometers around 3/25/93.

   -  Darex Corporation
      220 Hersey Street
      Box 277
      Ashland, OR  97520
      (503) 488-2224, (503) 488-2229 (FAX)

      Precision drill and end-mill sharpening equipment.  Some of their
      complete systems are very expensive and intended for large
      production shops (around $2000).  They also sell fixtures for use
      with existing grinders (about $250) and sharpeners for taps, reamers,
      and countersinks.

   -  Eastwood Company
      (800) 345-1178

      Metal fabrication equipment, welding supplies, etc.  Reportedly,
      the prices are rather high.

   -  Enco Manufacturing Co.
      13 stocking locations, main site in Chicago, IL (addresses not handy now)
      800-860-3400 (24 hr orders, automatically routes to closest location)
      800-860-3500 (fax, also auto routes)
      Credit cards, COD's up to $500, discount for pre-pay by check
      $25 minimum order
      Customer service & Chicago showroom M-F 7-midnight CST,
      Sa 8-4 CST, Su 9-4 CST

      Lathes, milling machines, etc, from small to large NC machines.
      Hand tools, cutting tools, storage cabinets, shop supplies
      Maker (not just distributer) of turret bed lathes.

      However, many net folks have reported that quality and service are
      between awful and terrible (this author included), and that Enco is
      to be avoided.  This is not a unanimous opinion, but close.

      230 page catalog

   -  Gateway Clocks
      7936 Camberly Drive
      Powell, TN  37849

      Gateway Clocks is apparently a one-man business, in the person
      of W. R. Smith, author of several clockmaking books and one on
      clockmaking and model-making (see earlier section in the FAQ).
      Gateway also sells all of John Wilding's books, and John Wilding
      (in England) sells all of Smith's books, through a reciprocal
      agreement.

   -  Gesswein
      255 Hancock Ave.
      Bridgeport, CT 06605
      (800)243-4466, (203)366-5400, (203)366-3953 fax

      Jewelry-making tools, perhaps more.  On the 800 number, there is
      a voice mail system, and if you just want a catalog you have to
      wait for the last prompt when they let you speak for a longer period
      without being cut off.

   -  Glendo Corporation
      900 Overlander Road
      P.O. Box 1153
      Emporia, KS 66801
      (800) 835-3519, (316) 343-1084, (316) 343-9640 (FAX)

      Their Accu-Finish line of "advanced sharpening equipment"
      includes grinders and fixtures for lathe cutting bits and
      similar tools.  Also, most affordable for the home shop,
      the Grind-R-Table for use with existing grinders.  They often
      run ads in the magazines, or you can call for information.

   -  Grizzly Imports, Inc.

      West of Mississippi:
      P.O. Box 2069
      Bellingham, WA 98227
      (800) 541-5537, (800) 225-0021 (FAX)

      East of Mississippi:
      2406 Reach Road
      Williamsport, PA 17701
      (800) 523-4777, (800) 438-5901 (FAX)

      Imports a wide range of power tools and accessories.  Metal lathes,
      milling machines, as well as lots of woodworking tools.  They also
      sell a belt sander called the "Knife Belt Sander/Buffer."  Among
      the importers of Taiwan-made tools, Grizzley seems to rank fairly
      well compared with Enco or Harbor Freight, though some consider Jet
      to be a bit better (at higher cost).

   -  Harbor Freight Tools
      3491 Mission Oaks Blvd.
      Camarillo, CA  93011-6010
      800 423 2567

      They mostly sell cheap tools.  Usually cheap = inexpensive, sometimes
      cheap = junky.  All (or most all) imported.  They are best for items
      which have a lot of metal in them and for which fine/precision is not
      your main objective.  They have really great buys on anvils, cold chisel
      sets, screwdriver sets, tinsnips, crowbars, ... and free shipping (other
      than a $2.95 handling fee) for orders over $50.

   -  High Quality Tools, Inc.
      1327 E. 289th St.
      Wickliffe, OH  44092
      (216) 944-0144, (216) 585-2265 (FAX)

      Replacement parts for Bridgeport milling machines.  Reputedly the
      quality is excellent.  They have a catalog with exploded views
      of all assemblies.  Cheaper than Bridgeport.
  
   -  Industrial Pipe and Steel Co.
      9936 E. Rush Street
      South El Monte, CA  91733
      800-423-4981, 818-443-9467, 818-579-4602 (fax)
      Credit cards, COD's
      M-F 7:30-4:30 PST, Sa 7:30-1 PST

      Cutting tools, hand tools, air tools, lathes, milling machines, you
      name it.  Shop supplies, tool and die maker supplies, you name it.
      Metal of all sorts, you name it.  New and used press die sets.
      Surplus rounds and plates.  Buy by the foot, buy by the pound.
      Most of their metal stock is not listed in the catalog(s).
      Call and ask what they've got.  Definitely oriented toward professional
      users, not hobbyists.  Full line distributors for most instrument makers,
      Starrett, Mitutoyo, etc.  Quality ranges from ultra-classy, great deals,
      garbage-at-any-price import.

      Small catalog several times a year, 200 page catalog once or
      twice a year, and a 750 page full-line catalog once every five
      years.  They came out with a full-line catalog in 92.  Get one if you can.

   -  J. I. Morris Company
      394 Elm Street
      Southbridge, MA 01550
      Phone: (508) 764-4394, (508) 764-7350 (FAX)

      Tiny screws, nuts, washers.  Sizes 0000-16 to 2-56 and popular UNM
      sizes stocked in many head styles and lengths in both brass and
      burr-free stainless.  Matching taps, chasers, and gages available.
      Write/FAX for catalog or send for prompt quotation.

   -  J. Malcolm Wild (Clocks)
      12 Norton Green Close
      Sheffield S8 8BP England
      Telephone: 0742 745693

      Supplies and accessories for clockmaking.

   -  The Jeweler's Loupe 1625 Crenshaw Blvd.  
      Torrance, CA 90501 
      (310)320-7005

   -  Kitts Industrial Tools
      22384 Grand River Avenue
      Detroit, MI  48219
      800-521-6579, 313-538-2585 in MI, 313-538-6499 (fax)
      Credit cards, COD's
      $25 minimum order
      M-Sa 9-5 EST

      Cutting tools, hand tools, air tools, supplies
      Quality ranges from ultra-classy, great deals, garbage-at-any-price import

      150 page catalog, but you have to mail a $2 check (won't accept phone
      orders for catalogs!).

   -  Klockit
      P.O. Box 636
      Lake Geneva, WI  53147
      (800) KLOCKIT    (i.e. (800) 556-2548)

      Books, kits, plans, tools, parts for clocks and watches.

   -  Lasquad Metals
      419 N. 13th Street
      San Jose, CA
      (408) 294-3686
      Hours: 10-5 M-F, 10-2 Sat.

      According to John Kopf, LASQUAD stands for "Loose And Sloppy,
      QUick And Dirty".  Mostly aluminum ($2.60/lb new, 1.50 surplus),
      some brass (2.75 new, 2.00 surplus), some copper, stainless steel,
      etc.  Its a couple of miles from Enco.  Didn't sound like they'd
      take phone or mail orders but I haven't tried.

   -  Lindsay Publications Inc.
      P. O. Box 538
      Bradley, IL  60915-0538
      (815) 935-5353

      Lindsay publishes books for the home shop, covering casting, forging,
      machining, and a few plans for building engines and such.  It has been
      reported that their catalog is "a bit bizarre" but the service is
      fast.  Their electrical catalog has cross-over projects that include
      light (pun intended?) metalworking.

   -  Mason & Sullivan
      210 Wood County Industrial Park
      Parkersburg, WV  26102-1686
      800-225-1153 (orders), 800-535-4486 (technical advice),
      800-535-4482 (customer service), 304-428-8271 (FAX)

      Supplier of clock kits, plans, parts, and tools.  In business since
      1947, they recently went out of business, and have re-appeared
      owned in part by the employees, though they also appear to be
      affiliated with the Woodcraft company (same address!)

   -  McMaster-Carr Supply Company
      PO Box 440
      New Brunswick NJ 08903-0440 USA
      908-329-3200 (Sales), 908-329-6666 (Other Departments), 908-329-3772 (FAX)

      Also has stocking sales centers in Atlanta, Chicago, and Los Angeles.

      Note that they apparently only deal with companies.  Jim Harres reports
      that they refused to send him a catalog.

      Prints an annual 2600+ page catalog.  Very complete supplier with tools,
      screws, shelving, wheels, lamps, heaters, air conditioners, plumbing, 
      electrical supplies, plastics, metals, pumps, containers, motors, gauges,
      paint brushes, hooks, door hardware, pH testers, microscopes, etc.
      Metric and english threads and sizes, too. Small bits of information,
      reference charts and advice are scattered throughout the catalog.

      No minimum order.  Satisfaction Guaranteed, whatever that means.  
      No problem with returns, but they ask that you get specific return
      instructions before shipping anything back.  All prices subject to
      change.  Visa and MasterCard accepted.  Prices are quoted plus actual
      shipping.

      Experience with McMaster-Carr is very good.  They do update
      (read: raise) their prices frequently, so don't believe catalog prices.
      Get a quote before buying.  Expect the catalog to be 10% low.
      Shipments have been prompt, complete, and accurate.  Prices seem 
      high, but they make up for it with "one-stop" shopping.

   -  Metal Buyer's Mart, Ltd. (formerly Metal By Mail)
      N-15 W 22218 Watertown Road, Unit #3
      Waukesha, WI  53186
      (800) 657-0721, (414) 547-3860 (FAX)

      $2 catalog, which contains decent descriptions of what they sell
      (hardness, machinability, etc.).  Ferrous and nonferrous metals,
      fasteners, and a few nonmetallic materials such as nylon and teflon.

   -  Micro-Mark
      340 Snyder Avenue
      Berkeleyheights NJ 07922-1595
      (800) 225-1066, (908) 665-9383

      Miniature tools & things, including Sherline lathes and mills.
      "Weensy" nonferrous tube, rod, sheet.  Everything sold in small
      quantities.  Prices not superb, but some of the items can't be
      found elsewhere.

      Sometimes have sale catalogs with some items marked down as much
      as 50%.

   -  MSC Industrial Supply Co.
      151 Sunnyside Blvd
      Plainview, NY  11803
      (800) 645-7270 (AT&T), (800) 753-7900 (MCI), (800) 255-5067 FAX

      Their 92/93 catalog is 1950 pages, and their selection has been
      described as "dumbfounding".

   -  Nordex, Inc.
      50 Newton Road
      P.O. Box 1956
      Danbury,  CT.  06813
      (800) 243-0986

      Usual range of precision components.  Spur gears down to .25" O.D.

   -  Norm Larson Books
      5426 E. Hwy 246
      Lompoc, CA  93436
      (800) 743-4766, (805) 735-2095

      "... books on just about every subject about metal working there is."

   -  Omega Engineering
      P.O. Box 2669
      Stamford, CT 06906
      (203) 359-1660

      Mentioned as a source for pyrometers and/or materials for making
      thermocouples and other process-measurement stuff.

   -  Penn Tool Company
      1776 Springfield Ave
      Maplewood, NJ 07040
      (800) 526-4956

      A very-well-stocked supplier with a very large selection of
      drills, taps, reamers, and other machining tools.  However,
      in some cases their prices seem outrageous, so check around
      first.  On the other hand, they may be the only source for
      that odd-sized spiral-flute reamer you need, or that #00 tap.
      Their catalogs are free; there is a small (196 pages in 1993)
      one and a large one (410 pages, catalog no. P-912 as of late
      1992), so ask for both (they may only send you the short one
      if you say you're a hobbyist).

   -  PIC Design
      P.O. Box 1004
      Benson Road
      Middlebury,  CT.   06762
      (800) 243-6125

      Usual range of precision components.  Gears down to less than
      3/8" O.D.

   -  Power Model Supply
      Rt 1 Box 177
      NW Cor Hwy 67 & Lond Rd
      Desoto, MO  63020
      (314) 586-6466

      Similar to Cole's but heavier on the trains.  Detailed engineering
      drawings for about 15 different engines.  They also carry various
      metals.

   -  Production Tool
      (800) 366-3600
      
      Lathe tooling and such, fair prices, and often have the same item
      at different quality levels (more quality means more money, of
      course).

   -  Reactive Metals Studio
      Box 890
      Clarkdale, AZ 86324
      (800)876-3434, (602)634-3434

      Niobium, mixed metals, for jewelry and perhaps other purposes.

   -  Reid Tool Supply Company
      2265 Black Creek Road
      Muskegon, MI  49444-2684
      (800) 253-0421, (616) 777-3951, (616) 773-4485 (FAX)

      Prints a 350+ page catalog twice a year.
      Very complete assortment of knobs, screws, clamps, springs, air hoses
      and couplings, drills, mills, taps, machinist's tooling, and books.
      No minimum order, 30-day return with full refund.
      Offers rework and specialty items with special conditions and terms.
      However, they want a company name before sending a catalog.

   -  River Gems and Findings (formerly Rio Grande)
      Dept T1
      6801 Washington NE
      Albuquerque, NM 87109
      (800)545-6566 orders, (800)533-3299 service, (505)344-9671 fax

      Jewelry-making tools, perhaps more.  Apparently a wholesaler, as
      they want a state tax ID or business license number before sending
      a catalog.

   -  Rutland Tool & Supply
      16700 E. Gale Avenue
      City of Industry, CA.  91745-0587
      (800) 289-4787, (818) 961-7111, (800) 333-3787 (FAX)

      (courtesy of Jon Bork)

      Rutland is a general machine shop supply house, with a good selection
      of tools, machines and accessories.  They primarily deal with
      professionals, but I have dealt with them in person and by phone and
      they have always been helpful and quick.  They send out several
      catalogs yearly including a new safety equipment supply catalog.
      Their prices are reasonable and they stock both top of the line and
      "quality import" selections for most items.

      (Will Martin reports they ask for a company name before sending
      out a catalog)

   -  S. LaRose, Inc.
      234 Commerce Place, P.O. Box 21208
      Greensboro, NC  27420
      (919) 275-0462

      Watch and clock movements, repair parts, supplies, tools, equipment.

   -  Scanlon American Reprints
      P.O. Box 379
      Modesto, CA  95353
      (209) 667-2907

      Scanlon sells many books on clocks.

   -  Secs, Inc.
      520 Homestead Ave.
      Mt. Vernon,   N.Y.  10550
      (914) 667-5600

      General line of precision hardware, gears, pulleys, clutches, etc.

   -  Servo Products Company
      433 N. Fair Oaks Ave., Box 90370
      Pasadena, CA  91109
      (818) 796-2460, (818) 796-3845 (FAX)

      Small precision drill presses and milling machines, including a
      whopping expensive CNC mill ($15,000).  Power feeds for mills.
      CNC small lathe, CNC add-on for large mills.

   -  Small Parts, Inc.
      13980 N.W. 58th Court
      P.O. Box 4650
      Miami Lakes, FL.   33014
      (305) 557-8222, (800) 423-9009 (FAX)

      Nicest line of supplies and hardware for prototype builders.
      Specifically targeted for small quantities.  Catalog includes
      prices. More fun than the Sears catalog.

   -  Stock Drive Products
      2101 Jericho Turnpike
      Box 5416
      New Hyde Park, NY  11042-5416
      (516) 328-3300

      These folks make all sorts of gears, drives, bearings, couplings,
      and related stuff.  Small, not hydroelectric-sized.  Ask them for
      their free publication "Handbook of Gears."  They also publish
      "Handbook of Shafts, Bearings & Couplings,"  "Handbook of Timing
      Belts, Chains & Friction Drives," "Handbook of Design Components,"
      "Aluminum Extrusions & Accessories."  They also package the whole
      set (I asked for just the handbook of gears and got all five).

   -  Swest, Inc.
      11090 Stemmons Frwy
      Dallas, TX 75220
      (800)527-5057, (214)247-7744, (214)247-5307 fax

      Jewelry-making tools, perhaps more.  They ask for a company name
      and business license or tax ID, but may be willing to send a
      catalog without them.

   -  Tee Publishing
      Edwards Centre
      Regent Street
      Hinckley
      Leics. LE100BB England
      0455-637173/616419

      From England, they publish Engineering in Miniature and other magazines.
      Similar to Argus, they have clockmaking books as well.  They state they
      are the world's only company specializing in back issues of Model 
      Engineer.

   -  Travers Tool Company, Inc.
      128-15 26th Avenue
      P.O. Box 1550
      Flushing, NY  11354-0108
      (800) 221-0270, (718) 886-7200, (800) 722-0703 (FAX), (718) 886-7895 (FAX)

      Prints a 500+ page large catalog once per year, and also sales flyers.
      Very complete line of tooling for machinists, including micrometers,
      mills, drills, reamers, broaches, taps, collets, tool posts, lathe tools,
      grinding wheels and stones, files, gages, vices, indicators, 
      precision steel pieces, glops and goos, books, and some power tools.
      $25.00 minimum order.  Visa, MasterCard, American Express accepted.
      Replace, refund, or full credit within 60 days of purchase (buyer's
      choice).  Prices are subject to change without notice.

      Experience with Travers has been good.  They are less
      expensive than McMaster-Carr and other full-price dealers.  They sell 
      premium and no-name lines of many similar tools so that you only buy
      the "quality" that you need.  Their performance on orders was once
      imperfect, but they stand behind their merchandise, so correcting the
      error was easy, fast, and painless.  I have ordered from them many times,
      so "one minor error out of many" is a good grade. 

   -  Vigor, sold by FDJ
      2221 Lee Road, Suite #1
      Winter Park, FL 32789
      (800) 323-6091 (orders)
      (407) 629-6906
      (407) 645-0707 (FAX)

      (FDJ is the company name, and sells the Vigor line)
      Jeweler's tools, video tapes, books, retailing supplies, and many
      universal tools being targeted at jewelers.  Tweezers, ring forms,
      molds, forges, files, small lathes, loupes, calipers, torches,
      solders and brazing material, mountings, etc.  An informative
      catalog.

      Very wide selection, but prices seem very high.

   -  Village Press
      P.O. Box 1810
      2779 Aero Park Drive
      Traverse City, MI  49685
      (800) 447-7367, (616) 946-3712

      Publishers of Home Shop Machinist, Projects in Metal, and
      Live Steam.  Some back issues available; older ones are
      available as parts of several book series.  See the individual
      entries in the "magazines" question.  They also publish other
      books such as "So You Want to Build a Live Steam Locomotive."

   -  Wholesale Tool  (Stu Friedberg's favorite!)
      PO Box 68
      Warren, MI  48089-0068
      12155 Stephen Drive
      Warren, MI  48089-3962
      800-521-3420,  800-521-3661 (fax), 313-754-9270, 313-754-8652 (fax)

      Broader selection of hand tools, fewer large machines than IP&S.
      Fork lifts.  No bulk metals, but tool steel, shim stock, threaded rod,
      etc.  Vast selection of cutting tools and grinding wheels.  Scattering of
      interesting surplus items.  Definitely oriented toward professional
      users, not hobbyists.  Full line distributors for most instrument makers.

      500 page full line catalog twice a year.  You have to order by 8 digit
      stock number, so copy carefully.  :-)

      6 locations, main site in Warren, MI.  Most items at most locations,
      some items in Michigan only, very few at other locations only.
      Credit cards, COD's with some payment restrictions
      $25 minimum order

      The other locations:

      PO Box 481
      Stoughton, MA 02072-0481
      1234 Washington Street (Route 138)
      Stoughton, MA 02072-3345, 800-343-1008, 617-344-0338, 617-341-0617 (fax)

      PO Box 700
      Brandon, FL  33509-0700
      9212 Adamo Drive
      Tampa, FL  33619-2631
      800-237-4689, 813-623-3099, 813-623-5816 (fax)

      PO Box 470952
      Tulsa, OK  74147-0952
      9909 East 55th Place
      Tulsa, OK  74146-6404
      800-331-4075, 918-627-2240, 918-627-2044 (fax)

      PO Box 240965
      Charlotte, NC  28224-0965
      4200 Barringer Drive
      Charlotte, NC  28217-1512
      800-438-3580, 704-527-4071, 704-523-7960 (fax)

      8100 Pinemont Drive
      Houston, TX  77040-6522
      800-231-4585, 713-895-7777, 713-895-8113 (fax)