Subject: Re: Square checking was Re: MADE IN USA -- does anybody care?

From: [email-masked] (Michael Rainville)
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 20:34:11 GMT

[email-masked] (Mike Huber) wrote:

>Friznitx rec.woodworking ak Wed, 05 Feb 1997 13:52:57 GMT farblik
>[email-masked] (Michael Rainville)}

>> Hard to have any respect for any items from China when you have
>> something stamped "Made in Hcina". I have a small, cheap square that
>> says just that. Makes you wonder how square it is. You get good and
>> bad from every country.

>My grandfather told me how:

>Takest thou a board, being sure that one edge be truly straight.
>Scribest thou ain line, as square to that straight edge as thy square
>may make it.
>Flip thou thine square,  scribing another line, also as square as thy
>square may be, yet the other way, at the same place on the board.
>Thus shall the lines form an angle, may it be a small one, for it is
>twice the error of your square, yet if the edge of the board is not
>straight, the test will not be true.

Thanks for the tip however my point was more to evaluating overall
quality control when the easy things are wrong, something like judging
a book by its cover (when the title on the cover isn't spelled right).

About the square from Hcina, I let the kids have it to play with.

Mike Rainville

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From: [email-masked]
Date: 9 Feb 1997 00:24:45 GMT

How is your spelling in Chinese?

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From: [email-masked] (daniel marois)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:08:50 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] 
says...

> If you think the Freud or Ryobi is better, than why didn't you say so?

Because I don't. I happen to think the Elu/DeWalt is the best value. I 
wouldn't pay C$800 for the Lamello Top 10, but I've read and heard 
that's it's the best available. 

-- 
Dan
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From: [email-masked] (daniel marois)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:08:39 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] says...

> >which you don't know. If you are thinking of the Lamello Top 10 you 
> >are without a doubt a member of a very small group who don't believe 
> >it's the best joiner on the market. Of course for the price it should 
> >be.
> 
> Well, that's questionable.  The Lamello hasn't improved like the others, so 
> the advantage of it has dwindled down to practically nothing.  It IS 
> underpowered.  The Dewalt is a MUCH better buy.

Are we talking about the same model? Up here there is a difference of 
hundreds of dollars between the Top 10 and the DeWalt. You guys seem 
to be saying that there is only a few dollars difference.

Anyway, to paraphrase Jerry Pournelle, the DeWalt is plenty good 
enough.

-- 
Dan
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- The mediocre are always at their best.
- A perfectionist is one who takes great pains
  and gives them to others.

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From: StanR <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:34:27 -0800

> that's it's the best available.

Well, I was in CB Tool today and took another look at the two plate
joiners, having this discussion on my mind. Both are good tools, but the
DeWalt has the better fence and better motor, I believe. The Lamello-10
has a better graduated scale, a better finish on its' fence, but no
holding pins (rounded bumpers instead). But even for a few hundred
dollars more for the Lamello, I still believe the DeWalt to be the
better tool, again just my humble opinion. :)

The 'tool guy' at the store said Shop Notes reviewed pj's a while ago
and they came to the same conclusion, but I havn't read the article.
Anyway, my stubborn opinion being what it is, even if they were the same
costwise, I would probably choose the DeWalt.

Stan

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:17:56 UNDEFINED

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (daniel marois) writes:
>From: [email-masked] (daniel marois)
>Subject: Re: MADE IN USA -- does anybody care?
>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:08:39 -0500

>> >it's the best joiner on the market. Of course for the price it should 

This means, to me, that the lamello is significantly more expensive than all 
others.

>> underpowered.  The Dewalt is a MUCH better buy.

This means that the Lamello is MUCH more expensive than the Dewalt.

>to be saying that there is only a few dollars difference.

Not in my mind.  Seems clear enough that we both agreed that the top 10 is way 
more money.  And, in fact, it is.

>Anyway, to paraphrase Jerry Pournelle, the DeWalt is plenty good 

Well, that depends.  'Good enough' is different for everybody.  If the top 10 
were an equivalent value to the dewalt, it would get recommended, and the 
dewalt would not be 'good enough' for those who just have to have the best.

Rich