Subject: Re: Baltimore Woodworkers, question.

From: [email-masked] (Michael and MJ Houghton)
Date: 27 Mar 1997 09:42:54 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, Charlie Rodgers  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>David and Laura wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any good places SOUTH of Washington DC?  I am in S. MD and find
>> it hard to get any nice wood/tools in my area.
>> 
>> David
>
>While I haven't personally been there, I've been told by several people 
>that Dyson's Lumber on Rt 5 in Great Mills has a good selection of wood.  
>Also been told that if you have access to Pax River, the wood hobby shop 
>there is top-rate.  Rough hardwood lumber at about 1/2 the off-base price 
>and they will plane it for only $0.10/lf.
>HTH, Charlie

Maryland Forest Products in Nanjemoy (right on the Potomac) is a small
sawmill that sells rough cut, kiln-dried lumber. I bought some maple, beech,
and cherry there and have been happy with it so far. He also had oak, ash,
hickory and black walnut in stock that I know of. His price list includes
other species including elm, gum, persimmon, birch, cedar...

Michael

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From: Mike Weaver <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:56:05 -0500

On 22 Mar 1997, Woody wrote:

> Any feedback on buying from Craftwoods in Timonium, MD?  I've been in there
> several times and they have a good selection, but they seem to be rather
> snobbish.  They always act like their doing me some great favor by taking
> my money.  Anybody else get that impression?

Yup...and too expensive.

If you're not too far from Craftwoods, you should check out Groff & Hearne
in Quarryville, PA.

Much better prices and selection for hardwoods, and worth a trip every
year or so just to drool over the large slabs available.

I happen to live only about 35 minutes from them though. It's probably
about an hour and a half from Craftwoods (just a guess though as I've
never gone from one to the other)

Just my $.02,

	-Mike
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From: Mike Weaver <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:00:23 -0500

On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, R. Martin Caskey wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Mar 1997, Michael Fedock wrote:
> 
> > Woody wrote:
> > > 
> > > --
> > > [email-masked]
> > Funny you should mention it.  They are arrogant and aloof.
> 
> Ditto! And expensive. Their selection of turning tools and supplies has
> shrunk to almost nothing, and they say they don't know when their home
> office (a wholesale lumber supplier near York, PA named ????) is going to
> order more. They seem equally disgusted that I would ask and that their
> owner doesn't seem to be responsive.

I think they get their hardwood from O'Shea lumber in New Freedom, PA, but
that's just a guess. O'Shea is a wholesaler only place, and I've often
seen their trucks southbound on I-83 inside Maryland.

> There is apparently a Woodworker's Warehouse in York. I haven't had a
> chance yet, but has anyone else had experience there??

It's a nice store, with some decent prices. No wood, but for tools, not
bad. A while ago they had the Pony pipe clamps for $7.50 or $7.99, which,
for retail, is often unheard of.

	-Mike

PS I live in southern York county, PA

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:07:17 GMT

Yes, he has a decent selection, but is asking full price for wood
that is un-graded and dried in a "solar-kiln", basically air-dried.  I
offered to buy several hundred bf of Oak from him a year ago and was
told there was no discount and we had to pick it up on saturday
between the hours of 8am and noon.  I was frank and explained that I
thought his prices were too high considering I could get graded,
kiln-dried lumber from Tidewater/Allied, et al, for the same price
delivered.  Rather than come down he frankly told me that he makes
more than enough money selling to weekend warriors, so he didn't care.
I can respect that.

	I hear his prices are now more in line with his product, but have
not bothered calling again.  Personally, I only pay full price when
it's graded and dried.  My time is worth the extra $ I'd pay
elsewhere.

	I'd be interested in hearing from others.  Has the price dropped?
Anyone know the average moisture content?

			Pat

>other species including elm, gum, persimmon, birch, cedar...

wood at smart<dot>net

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:22:09 GMT

I'll second Groff & Hearne.  Great place.

	The Groff's just bought out the Hearne's (who moved out west to
build another yard) and I deal mostly with Krist, the Groff son. Real
nice place. The kinda place you could pack up a lunch for, drive over
to and just sit and jaw half the day if it's quiet.  One board or
1000, they don't care.  Take your time.  The free-form slabs in maple,
cherry, oak, and walnut seem infinite, and burls are everywhere.

	I'll let you in on a secret, too.  A certain well-known furniture
artist here in MD made a trestle table/desk out of a familiar walnut
slab.  My wife had eyed it the week before, selling for around $275.
The completed desk (trestle, you figure out how hard) was selling for
$4995.  No kidding.  Talked to the owner, who admitted he did a lot of
his shopping up at Groff & Hearne.  

	My one concern is that all of you will bring up their prices.  I
guess I'll give directions to anybody who wants them.  :)

	Up the road about 2 miles is Sandy Pond Lumber, who specialize in
figured woods of all species, but mostly maple.  And trust me, it is
divine.  It's also costly.  They're not quite so willing to let you
run around, but the hassle is worth it if you want a pile of exquisite
lumber.  If you call ahead with an order, though, you wil not be
disappointed.  

	Both yards do mail order.

				Pat

wood at smart<dot>net

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From: [email-masked] (Pete Akerson)
Date: 28 Mar 1997 01:39:02 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: 
Frisco, over in Upper Marlboro has decent rough-sawn very wet mixed oak
at around 90 cents a board foot.  Which is ideal if you want to pick
through it and slice up some for steaming. For furniture, forget it.
  Look out for the guy driving the loader, or you'll get flattened.
-P

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From: [email-masked] (Speeben-p+t-e-b+v=)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:55:04 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>, wood at smart.net wrote:
 
€>>> Are there any good places SOUTH of Washington DC?  I am in S. MD and find
€>>> it hard to get any nice wood/tools in my area.
€>>> 
€>>> David
€>>
Try Colonial hardwoods, very nice people excellent selection, and
reasonable prices,
7953 cameron brown court
springfield, va. 22153
703-451-9217
with all these pennies (2¢'s) you could get rich!

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