Subject: Source: Bartleys wood filler or your favorite...

From: "Michael T. Breen" <[email-masked]>
Date: 27 Mar 1997 20:18:25 GMT

I'm doing a bunch of red oak projects that will wind up with a Watco walnut
oil finish.
My local 'fine woodworking' store is having a hard time finding bartleys in
natural or dark or in anything but little cans.

Saw norm on the tube with a half gal. of a wood filler he tinted for some
Mohogany project he was on.  Everybody at the other stores wants to sell me
DAP or Elmer's wood filler - get real here!

Is there a mail order or web location for these or maybe your favorite
pore/grain filler?

Any direction is better than the one back to my hardware store.  I have a
refinishing book that says to use a product with SILEX - although none of
the products I've seen so far has this in it.  Is the book out of date or
what - does silex cause cancer and induce children to smoke?

Thanks for any advice or tips.

Michael
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From: [email-masked] (Ken Rose)
Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:02:15 GMT

In article <01bc3aeb$f4125920$259210d0@pentium>, "Michael T. Breen"
<[email-masked]> writes:

|> Saw norm on the tube with a half gal. of a wood filler he tinted for some
|> Mohogany project he was on.  Everybody at the other stores wants to sell me
|> DAP or Elmer's wood filler - get real here!
|> 
|> Is there a mail order or web location for these or maybe your favorite
|> pore/grain filler?
|> 

coincidentally enough, I was just looking for a tinted pore wood filler,
andgot a catalog from a mail-order place mentioned in the "suppliers"
section of Bob Flexner's book; its called Liberon, and their toll-free
number is 800-245-5611.  I just got the catalog and haven't ordered
anything from them, but from talking to them on the phone when I was
getting the catalog they seem pretty knowledgeable and helpful.

-- Ken

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:00:38 -0500

Michael T. Breen wrote:
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> getting the catalog they seem pretty knowledgeable and helpful.

Let me expand on Ken Rose's response:

Liberon is connected with the Star Finishing Supply Company. Their
product line is excellent for finishes and touch up supplies. Their
prices are good for a mail order house. They even have a web site with
an on-line catalog as well as MANY technical sheets on finishing:
<http://www.mcn.org/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Lib/liberon.html>

The difference between Star and Liberon is that to order from Star
requires a $50 minimum order, while Liberon requires no minimum
purchase. Quality tech support is available from both (Star's chemist is
one of the nicest KNOWLEDGEABLE people to have on the other end of the
phone line).

I use their products, especially thir own line of "japan" colors which
they call "OJ Tints" (100% guilty of murder and hubris). That is their
colorant that you would use to tint their Pastewood Open Pore Grain
Filler, available in gallon cans in at least 5 colors: natural,
mahogany, walnut, dark walnut, and light provincial walnut. 
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Daniel

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From: [email-masked] (LEE WARD)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 11:54:00 -0600

call your favrite mfr direct and order the stuff you need,or learn howto
formulate your own by gettin howto books at the library,or readin Fine
Woodworkin Mag Or others that contain nice articles on stuff like
that,,I read in one recently how these fellers added Powdered Stone to a
liquid to use as a filler cuz it was so sand-able after hardening! I
think the problems of Brands and types of products you find at the local
Hrdwr chainstore are typical cuz these places are in it strictly for the
$$$ and only sell fast movin,highly marketed stuff which in most cases
is crapola cuz most of the finest materials arent found in the local
chain...To locate your MFRs use the THOMAS REGISTER its online somewhere
and also every library usually carries one cuz it contains All the MFRs
in the USA [maybe foreign too i dont remember] And if your in a big
hurry to get a Toll-free number for Any MFR just call 1-800-555-1212 and
ask the operator if there is a number for your party-This technique aint
100% but will yield good results more often than not...Many Excellent
MFRs of Finshes and products are also found in Woodenboat magazine..
PS.FWIW i just saw a good book at the library of over 1,000 formulations
for paints,gessos,washes,fillers,and much more! it was an old book with
alot of use but contained formulas of old
Whitewashes,Limewashes,Milkpaints,and many formulas of stuff used in
Europe as well as Usa and some formulas have been used for Tjhousands
of yrs! Also possibly some help in RODALES book of Formulas too..
                                         Lee Ward

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