Subject: Router Slipage!

From: [email-masked] (Brad R Tallis)
Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:22:48 GMT

Hello All-

I ran into a problem this weekend that really has me bothered.
I was routing cherry planks and only making cuts about 1/8"
deep.  As I would rout, the depth adjust would slip and allow 
the bit to sink into the wood at least 1/16".  And the depth
adjust lock was on!  To me, this seems dangerous.  Plus it
almost ruined an expensive piece of cherry (it was the ONE
piece I had picked out for the headboard that was _absolutely_
beautiful!)

I've had the router for over a year with probably about 30-40
hours of use.  I dought it is still under warranty.  What
should I do?  Take it apart and hope to see whats wrong?

Also, could you recommend a good router for the "general"
hobbist?

Thanks for your help-
Brad

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From: [email-masked] (Brad R Tallis)
Date: 10 Feb 1997 19:14:35 GMT

Brad R Tallis ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Hello All-

: I ran into a problem this weekend that really has me bothered.
: I was routing cherry planks and only making cuts about 1/8"
: deep.  As I would rout, the depth adjust would slip and allow 
: the bit to sink into the wood at least 1/16".  And the depth
: adjust lock was on!  To me, this seems dangerous.  Plus it
: almost ruined an expensive piece of cherry (it was the ONE
: piece I had picked out for the headboard that was _absolutely_
: beautiful!)

: I've had the router for over a year with probably about 30-40
: hours of use.  I dought it is still under warranty.  What
: should I do?  Take it apart and hope to see whats wrong?

: Also, could you recommend a good router for the "general"
: hobbist?

: Thanks for your help-
: Brad

I forgot to include some info.

It's a Ryobi (not sure of the HP, but it's got a MOTOR!),
I was using a 3/4" steel bit, and my feedrate was slow.
(It took me 4 hours to make 17 .25" deep grooves in the
cherry...)

Brad

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From: [email-masked] (Brad R Tallis)
Date: 11 Feb 1997 17:34:48 GMT

Hello All-

Thanks for all of your help.  I just got off the phone with
Home Depot and they said they would replace it for free.  
I'm thinking about getting the money from it and putting it
toward a Porter brand.  It sounds like most of you recommended
this brand.

Thanks again!

Brad

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From: Frank Faubert <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:13:37 -0800

> (It took me 4 hours to make 17 .25" deep grooves in the
Just a thought, is the collet and bit clean and tight?

Frank

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From: [email-masked] (Mike Thompson)
Date: 13 Feb 1997 15:23:59 GMT

>Just a thought, is the collet and bit clean and tight?

Also as has been discussed here, if you look at the router bit shank you'll
see a slight (or maybe not-so-slight) flare where the shank meets the bit
body.
If you sink the bit all the way into the collet, only the upper edge of the
collet will actually grip that flared portion of the shank.  This might
be contributing to the loosening problem.
Pull the bit out of the collet by enough (1/16 - 1/8 inch) to get parallel
surfaces in contact when you tighten.

I just got some new 1/2 inch panel raising bits and the flare is very
noticable, which made me think to be careful to do this when I use them.

- Mike

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From: [email-masked] (Brad R Tallis)
Date: 13 Feb 1997 17:43:13 GMT

Mike Thompson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In <[email-masked]>, Frank Faubert <[email-masked]> writes:

: >Brad R Tallis wrote:
: >> : deep.  As I would rout, the depth adjust would slip and allow

: >Just a thought, is the collet and bit clean and tight?

Just a follow-up.  I got my Ryobi router replaced.  It definately
was the depth guage lock that was the problem.  I could watch
the depth guage rotate around as I routed.  I had to hold it in
place with a finger.  Not very safe in my opinion.  So I traded
it in for a Plunge router.  Used it last night.  I like it.  It
will definately speed up some of my projects.  

I always seat the bit to the bottom of the collet, then pull it
back out about 1/4".  I try not to overtighten the collet, but
I also make sure the bit won't slip.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Brad