Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 07:58:21 -0800 From: RMTYE@BIIVAX.DP.BECKMAN.COM Subject: Futon soruces Woodworker's journal, Vol 16, No. 6 "Fabulous Futon" {some time in late 1992} (203-355-2694 for back issues). Classic bi fold futon frame for queen size futon. The plans clam to be (and appear to be) appropriate for "even beginning woodworkers". Specialty Furniture Designs (1-800-892-4026), Design WSN-15 $14.95, catalog $2.00 Attractive (modern) Sofa like futon frame fro singe fold futon (futon folds once (the long way)). Plans for both twin (39 x 75) and full (54 x 75). Plans are a large single sheet of blue print like drawings with associated text, construction looks reasonable and pictures of the finished project look good, but the plans are a bit intimidating Popular Wood working issue #68, September 1992, "Knock-Down Couch" (For back issues contact: Popular Woodworking Back Issues #wi 1320 Galaxy Way Concord, Ca. 94520 Attractive Mission / Craftsman like design for a sturdy, disasebilable couch. The plans are not specifically for futons but could be easily adapted to a single fold futon (might not need to be adapted). Today's Woodworker, July/august 1989 Order from Today's woodworker Box 44 Rogers, MN. 55374 issue #4 (July/aug 1989) $3.95 + $1.50 handling Very attractive Futon sofa bed frame for queen size futon (possibly Swedish modern). Unfolds to make bed, breaks down for moving. Elegant design with lots of mortise and tenon joinery. Curtisy of Tom Littauer at Amdahl M/S 278, PO Box 3470, Sunnyvale CA 94088-3470 USA +1 408 737 5056 twl10@juts.ccc.amdahl.com twl10@amail.amdahl.com Fine Woodworking on Modern Furniture Projects This is a one-fold double-bed size futon couch. Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 09:25:02 PST From: Michael Kremer Subject: Re: Futon Plans The Woodworkers Store in Minneapolis has futon plans in their catalog. They also stock the hardware. 800 279-4441. Mike Kremer Michaelk@NGC.COM Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 15:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: CSTEWART@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU Subject: Re: Making Couch frames; WAS: Futon Advice Anybody? I found a book that has a plan in it. I can't remember the exact title. I think that it was something like "Making Furniture Out of Two by Fours". In the plan, you made a couch frame out of 2x4's and the futon was placed on it. Two matching end tables were made. They were the same height as the couch seat. When you wanted a bed, you just pulled the end tables up to the couch and unfolded the futon onto the couch seat and end tables. Sorry I can't remember the exact title of the book. cstewart@desire.wright.edu Newsgroups: rec.woodworking Subject: Re: Futon frame plans? Fine Woodworking has plans for just suck a contraption. Not sure of the issue, but it was within the last year. Looked nice, too... Steve Locke Dave, I seem to recall something like this in one of the Fine Woodworking On ... series of books. I think it was in "Chairs and Beds" or was it "Beds and Chairs"? It's something like that anyway. It may be of some use. *** Matt Cairns *** >From the woodworking FAQ (available at cs.rochester.edu)... 19). Where can I find futon plans? 1. TODAYS WOODWORKER JULY/AUG 1989, VOL 1 NO. 4 Queen size futon folded in half length wise. 2. WOODWORKER'S JURNAL NOV/DEC 1992 VOL 16 NO. 6 "Standard" futon frame for standard 2 fold futon. 3. Fine Woodworking July/August '89 NO. 77 Paul Worth I've slept on one of those futon bed/couches which were dowel based but didn't have my keyboard handy. However I did see plans and special hinges on page 5 of the new catalog from the Woodworkers Store. They can be reached at 800-279-4441 or 612-438-8868 and have a dozen locations in the U.S. The hardware is $32.95 a set and the plans $9.95. The sliding action is all in the hinge and the back and seat are two separate panels that hook on the hinge which mounts to the side frame. Hope this helps. I haven't actually seen the plans or hinges. Nick Nussbaum I don't know if this will help you or not, but I saw an ad in this month's WOOD (October 1993) that seems to be along the lines of what you are looking for. The article is on page 25 incase you want to take a look at it, but the following information should be able to get you going on the right track. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Futon Frames $14.95 Style A includes plans for Twin (39" x 75"), Full (54" x 75"), and Queen Size. Style B includes plans for Twin and Full Size. Queen Size available separately. (there are two pictures, one for style A and one for style B) Specialty Furniture Designs 797 W Remus Road, Dept. W-19 Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 1-800-892-4026 Visa/MC/Discover Accepted Color Catalog $2.00 FREE with order. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't have any experience with this company or with making my own folding futon bed, but my fiance has a futon bed and a futon couch that folds into a bed (I guess that could be a futon bed that folds into a couch). At any rate, I prefer the futon bed over the couch for sleeping, simply because it is bigger (they are equally comfortable). The folding couch is a good idea, but as a couch it has a major shortcoming (IMHO -- not hers :) Anyway, the futon tends to slip off the couch after it has been folded (and sat upon) for some time (I guess this would be called futon slouch :) Anywho, I have been meaning to fix this for some time by adding small covers that fit over the lower corners of the futon and attach to the frame to keep it from sliding. My fiance is very protective of her futon and insists that simply flipping the futon over every once in a while alleviates the problem (I disagree, but I have yet to add the straps so the problem couldn't be that bad). I don't know if the brand of futon you use is important or not. The two beds that we have are from different companies and both are very comfortable. I hope this helps you out some. Hopefully it made sense (it's late :) Anyway, my point was that futons are great. Making furniture is great. Put the two together and you should be happy. Whether these plans are the key to that happiness, I have no idea. Good luck. A.J. Whitney