Subject: Re: WHY aren't we using biomass (yet)??

From: Azeez Hayne <[email-masked]>
Date: 12 May 1995 06:05:55 GMT

[email-masked] (Russell Edwards) wrote:
>Azeez Hayne <[email-masked]> writes:
>
>>>  Geez. Noone who's watched dope smokers passively goofing and yukking 
>>>their way through life would call hemp the most "benign" plant known to 
>>>man. I'd say that _basil_ is the most benign plant known to man (or woman 
>>>for that matter). Hemp is probably slightly to the other side of 
>>>belladonna. Also (if you know your history, which you apparently don't), 
>
> Belladonna is a very dangerous plant. Marijuana in a recent (supreme
>court?) inquiry was found to be one of the safest therapeutically
>active drugs known to man. Safer than boiled potatoes. I don't know what
>you mean by "goofing and yukking their lives away", but I think that
>many chronic marijauna smokers enjoy their lives more than most non-smokers.
>You don't see rastafarians going to war and killing eachother...
>
>>>the dope scare of the 20s was due more to widespread use of opiates in 
>>>patent medicines (cough, colic and the like) than anything Hearst did. 
>>>The "secret ingredient" in such medicines resulted in very widespread 
>>>addiction in the U.S. population. Thus the general public probably knew 
>>>more about real addiction and drug dependency than it does today. You'd 
>>>probably be a lot better off if you smoked basil. More clearheaded, 
>>>anyway.
>
> What do opiates have to do with marijuana? The dope scare of the 20's
>(wasn't it the 30's?) was due to WR Hearst's beat-up newspaper articles
>which talked about people smoking the "killer weed". Anslinger based most
>of his argument on these fallacious articles, not on patent medicines.
>
>  Anyway, even if you _do_ think the drug should be illegal, shouldn't
>low-THC (with virtually zero potential for recreational use, or as you
>would put it "abuse") strains of hemp be legal? They are biological
>inferior to real hemp but they're still better than nothing.
>
>Russell

I think your right on the money, but next time please attribute the post to the 
person who wrote it, in this case it was Mr.Levin.

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From: Azeez Hayne <[email-masked]>
Date: 11 May 1995 15:44:23 GMT

[email-masked] (John Levin) wrote:
>>so blame industrialist hearst and his chain of newspapers for the 
>>laws we now have.  a bunch of greedy industrialists criminalized one of 
>>the most benign plants known to man.
>

If marijuana is so harmful, why does it cure glaucoma and asthma? No one really 
advocated smoking it to my knowledge so far. We've just said it has uses that 
should be allowed and aren't because of ignorance.

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From: [email-masked] (John Levin)
Date: 11 May 1995 16:19:48 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] says...

>should be allowed and aren't because of ignorance. 

Belladonna has medical uses, too. That doesn't mean that it is therefore 'harmless' 
and should be freely available. Given your logic, I guess that all this fuss about 
handguns in elementary schools is based on 'ignorance' too. Sheesh.

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From: [email-masked] (Russell Edwards)
Date: 12 May 1995 00:31:05 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (The Ageing Hippie)
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 11:21:41 +0100 (BST)

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Karlsen, Arnt          ) writes:
> In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Tao Nelson) writes:
> >From: [email-masked] (Tao Nelson)
> >Subject: Re: WHY aren't we using biomass (yet)??
> >Date: 19 May 1995 06:10:38 GMT
> >
> >: belladonna. Also (if you know your history, which you apparently don't), 
> >: the dope scare of the 20s was due more to widespread use of opiates in 
> >: patent medicines (cough, colic and the like) than anything Hearst did. 
> >: The "secret ingredient" in such medicines resulted in very widespread 
> >: addiction in the U.S. population. Thus the general public probably knew 
> >
> >
> >WHAT THE FUCK'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH HEMP ?!?!!
> >
> >please excuse me shouting, but hemp is not, and never was an opiate.
> >prohibition was, and still is, purely ecconomical and political.  
> >
> 
> 
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> 
> Hemp is the source of hashish, a drug quite similar to mariuana, pot or 
> grass, only a little stronger, that can be smoked.

- However, as the man said; none of these drugs are opiates. The active
ingredients in them are THC in both higher and lower forms, and also cannabidiol
which has no effect but to give you the "munchies". There are _no_ opiate
substances in any pure cannabis derivative, although there _is_ a form of
cannabis resin, referred to as "double zero" where I come from. This has opium
mixed in with the resin, and hence does contain opiates. However, this is quite
rare (I have come across it once in four years) and is not thesame thing as
hashish or marijuana.

> >>> Thank you for the time you have taken to read this. Live n' Learn.<<<

- Live and learn right back.
 
Luv,

Ageing Hippie