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Topics of the day:

  1. Some information on the Balkans. (5)
  2. USAAF 12 MAY 43
  3. Balkans
  4. SF Bay Area Only
  5. WOII aerial photographs SE-Poland
  6. Sign off (2)
  7. World War II Airman's Preservation Society RE:re:

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Date:    Tue, 11 May 1993 23:30:09 EST
From:    Larry Jewell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Some information on the Balkans.

The following files maybe of interest to those concerned with
the history of military operations in the Balkan area.

This file contains information taken from:
GERMAN ANTIGUERILLA OPERATIONS IN THE BALKANS (1941-1944)
Center for Military History Pub 104-18, 1989

(1) Chronology of events in Balkans

(2) Tables of Organization for German and Axis forces in the
Balkan region for 1941-1944

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(1) Chronology of events in Balkans

(Events in the Balkan area with notes on the "larger picture" to
give a sense of continuity.)

1940
October 1940
28  Italian forces attack Greece from Albania.

1941
April 1941
 3 Rommel opens his offensive in Libya.
 6 German forces intervene in the Greek-Italian conflict.
 6 German troops invade Yugoslavia.
17 Yugoslav High Command forced to capitulate.
20 General Tsolakoglou surrenders the Army of Epirus to the
   Germans.
23 Greece surrenders to the Germane and Italians.
27 German troops enter Athens.

May 1941
29   Rommel stopped at the Egyptian frontier.

June 1941
 9 Field Marshal List, commander of Twelfth Army, appointed
   Armed Forces Commander, Southeast.
22 Operation BARBAROSSA begins.

Late. Bulk of German combat troops shifted
   from Balkans to Russian theater; number of sabotage incidents
   in Balkans increases.

July 1941
13 Inhabitants of Montenegro launch general attack on scattered
   Italian garrisons.

August 1941

Early  Italian army headquarters redesignated area commands.
       Tito moves his headquarters into the field.
       Daily attacks on Serbian police stations.

September 1941
 5 WB Southeast transfers 125th Infantry Regiment(Separate)
   from Salonika area to Belgrade.
16 Hitler issues directive ordering Marshal List to suppress
   revolt in Balkans.

October 1941
25 Marshal List relinquishes duties because of illness; General
   Kuntze appointed acting Armed Forces Commander, Southeast
27 Headquarters, Twelfth Army (Armed Forces Commander,
   Southeast) moves from Athens to Salonika.

December 1941
11 Germany and Italy declare war on the United States.

1942
January 1942
15-26 Major antiguerrilla operations in Croatia.
18 Second British drive into Libya stopped.

March 1942
 1 Headquarters, LXV Corps Command and headquarters, Military
    Command, Serbia, merged.

April-May 1942
20 April-3 May First major joint antiguerrilla operation
   launched by Italian, German, and Croatian troops.

May 1942
27 Rommel opens second drive into Egypt.

July 1942
  General Robotti launches drive on Partisans in Slovenia.
  Total Yugoslavia guerrilla losses to date estimated at 45,000
  dead.

August 1942
 8 General Kuntze relieved by General Loehr as Armed Forces
   Commander, Southeast.

October 1942
23   Start of the Battle of El Alamein.

November 1942
 8 Allies invade North Africa.
19 Russians launch Stalingrad counteroffensive.
25 Guerrillas blow up Gorgopotamos Bridge, some 100 miles north
   of Athens.

December 1942
28 Hitler issues directive raising status of Armed Forces
   Commander, Southeast, to that of Commander-in-Chief,
   Southeast.

1943
May 1943
 8-12 End of Axis resistance in North Africa.

June 1943
   EDES ceases active operations against Germans.

July 1943
10 Allies establish lodgment in Sicily.
25 Mussolini forced to resign.
26 Directive No. 48 introduces major organizational changes
   centralizes authority for defense of the Balkan Peninsula.
   Field Marshal von Weichs named new Commander-in-Chief,
   Southeast.

August 1943
18 Resistance in Sicily collapses.

September 1943
 2 Allies land in southern Italy.
 3 Italy signs armistice.
17 Allies capture Foggia air base.
19 Armed Forces High Command directive makes Rommel and Army
   Group B responsible for destroying guerrilla forces in
Istria.

end German forces in Balkans total 600,000 men.

October 1943

 1 Allies land at Salerno.

November 1943
17 British and Italian garrison of Leroa surrenders to the
   Germans

1944

January 1944
22 Allies land at Anzio.

March 1944
26 Russian troops reach the Romanian border.

May 1944
25 German airborne troops attack Tito's headquarters at Dvar.

June 1944
 4 Allied troops enter Rome.
 6 Invasion of Normandy.
 6-14  Operation GEMSBOCK.

July 1944
 3 EDES reopens hostilities.
 5-6 EDES forces attack German troops near Arta.
Beginning  Operation STEINADLER launched.

August 1944
 2 Partisans advance into Macedonia.
 5 Operation KREUZOTTER begins.
12 Operation RUEBEZAHL gets under way.
12 Florence captured by the Allies after heavy fighting.
20 Russians launch deep drive into Romania.
24 Romanian Government surrenders to the Soviet Union.

September 1944
 5 Soviet Union declares war on Bulgaria.
 8 Bulgaria asks Russians for armistice and declares war on
   Germany.
 8-9 General rising takes place in southern and central Greece.
12 United States First Army crosses the German frontier.
21 Marshal von Weichs considers Partisan units as equivalent to
   regular forces.
late Russians fighting north of Belgrade.

October 1944
12 26,500 Germans still stranded on Crete, Rhodes, and other
   islands.
14 Army Group E headquarters moves to Macedonia.
20 Belgrade falls to the Russians and the I Partisan Corps.

November 1944
 2 Last German units evacuate Greece.

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(2) Tables of Organization for German and Axis forces in the
Balkan region for 1941-1944

(Attempting to convert a military Organization Chart into ASCII
is something I'll save a future date.  In the file below you
will find my best rendition of same.)

LEGEND:
XXXXX = Group of Armies (Army Group or equivalent)
 XXXX = Army
  XXX = Corps or Air Force
   XX = Division or Command of an Air Force

German Ground Forces in Occupied Greece and Yugoslavia as of
July 1941.

     XXXX
     Armed Forces Comdr, Southeast and Twelfth Army
        XXX
        Mil. Comdr. Southern Greece
           XX
           713(-) and 5 Mtn (Normally attached to XVIII Mountain
                             Corps.  Participated in capture of
                             Crete and Retained Temporarily for
                             island's Defense.)

        XXX
        Mil. Comdr. Serbia

        XXX
        LXV
           XX
           704, 714, 717, 718

        XXX
        XVIII (Mtn)
           XX
           6 Mtn and 164

        XXX
        Mil. Comdr. Salonika-Aegean

German Ground Forces in Occupied Greece and Yugoslavia as of 1
Dec. 1942.
     XXXX
     Armed Forces Comdr, Southeast and Twelfth Army
         XXX
         LXV
            XX
            704, 714, 717, 718, 7 SS Mtn. (Prinz Eugen),
            187 Res.

         XXX
         Fortress Crete
            XX 22 Para.

German and Bulgarian Ground Forces in Occupied Greece,
Yugoslavia and Albania As of 26 December 1943.
XXXXX
C in C Southeast and Army Group F
     XXXX
     Second (in Serbia and Croatia)
         XXX
         XV Mtn.
            XX
            371, 373, 1 Cossack, 114(L), 264
         XXX
         V SS Mtn.
            XX
            181, 369, 118(L), 1 Mtn., 7 SS Mtn.
         XXX
         LXIX
            XX
            173, 187, 367 (Forming)
         XXX
         XXI Mtn. (In Albania)
            XX
            297, 100(L)
     XXXX
     Mil. Comdr. Southeast (In Serbia)
         XXX
         I (Bulg.)
            XX
            22 (Bulg.), 24 (Bulg.), 25 (Bulg.), 27 (Bulg.)
XXXXX
E (In Greece)
         XXX
         LXVIII
            XX
            117(L), 11 LWFd
         XXX
         Aegean (Bulg)
            XX
            26 (Bulg.), 28 (Bulg.)
         XXX
         XXII
            XX
            104 (L)
         XXX
         Fortress Crete
            XX
            22 (Para.), Crete
         XXX
         Admin. Area Salonika-Aegean
            XX
            4 SS Pol. (Pz.Gdr.?), 7 (Bulg.)
German Ground Forces in Occupied Yugoslavia and Albania as of
the fall of Belgrade, 20 October, 1944

C in C Southeast and Army Group F
     XXXX
     Second
         XXX
         LXIX
            XX
            1 Cossack
         XXX
         XV Mtn.
            XX
            264, 373, 392
         XXX
         V SS Mtn.
            XX
            369, 118(L)
         XXX
         IX SS Mtn. (Formed in the summer of 1944 to control
                     Albania and Croatian SS Divisions.)
            XX
            Boettcher, Kuehlwein (Kampfgruppen (Battle Groups)
                                 of Division Size or Larger.)
            13 SS Mtn. (13th SS Mountain Division (Handschar)
                        arrived in Slovenia in early 1944.)
 XXXXX
 E
         XXX
         LXVIII
            XX
            41 (Fortress Troops)
         XXX
         Comdr. E. Aegean Area
            XX
            Rhodes,
            938, 939, 967 (Fortress Troops)
         XXX
         XXII Mtn.
            XX
            104 (L) ,
            966, 1017 (Fortress Troops)
         XXX
         XCI
         XXX
         XXI Mtn.
            XX
            297, 181, 21 SS Mtn. (21st Mountain Division
                                 (Skanderberg) was formed in the
                                 summer of 1944 of Albanian
                                 Personnel.)
         XXX
         Mil. Comdr. Macedonia (Formed to coordinate efforts of
                                units assigned to holding open
                                escape route of  Army Group E
                                from Greece to area of Serbia
                                north of Macedonia.)
            XX
            11 AF Fd, 22 (Para.)

     XXXX
     Army in Serbia and Mil. Comdr. SE
         XXX
         Gen. Mueller (Kampfgruppen (battle group) of division
                       size or larger.)
             XX
             1 Mtn, 7 SS Mtn.
         XXX
         Gen. Schneckenburger
            XX
            117 (L)

Transcribed, edited and collected by
Larry W. Jewell
[email-masked]

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 03:36:24 -0300
From:    klaus kostenbauer 9209 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Some information on the Balkans.

Just a thank-you-note on the thorough information!
Regards, Klaus Kostenbauer

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 07:18:09 -0400
From:    [email-masked]
Subject: USAAF 12 MAY 43

COMBAT CHRONOLOGY OF THE US ARMY AIR FORCES
WEDNESDAY, 12 MAY 1943
FTP SITES
  1. ftp.rutgers.edu in directory pub/wwii/usaf
  2. byrd.mu.wvnet.edu (129.71.32.152) in pub/history/military/airforce/
     wwii_chronology

AIRCRAFT MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT:
  A-20, Douglas Havoc
  A-36, North American Apache
  B-17, Boeing Flying Fortress
  B-24, Consolidated Liberator
  B-25, North American Mitchell
  B-26, Martin Marauder
  Beaufighter, Bristol (RAF)
  F-5, Lockheed Lightning
  P-38, Lockheed Lightning
  P-39, Bell Airacobra
  P-40, Curtiss
  Wellington, Vickers (RAF)

AMERICAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Eleventh Air Force)
  In the Aleutians, a P-39 reconnaissance sortie over Kiska and Rat Island
encounters poor weather and turns back. At Attu, an air-ground liaison
B-24 watches US forces land on beach "Red" while another B-24 drops
supplies. Seven attack missions flown by 10 B-24's, 12 B-25's, and 24
P-38's bomb and strafe assigned Attu targets. Four barges are set afire in
the W arm of Holtz Bay.

EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Eighth Air Force)
  HQ 95th Bombardment Group (Heavy) arrives at Framlingham, England from
the US.
  HQ 323d Bombardment Group (Medium) and it's 453d and 455th Bombardment
Squadrons (Medium) with B-26C's arrive at Horham, England from the US.
The group will fly it's first combat mission on Friday.
  The 14th Photographic Squadron (Light), 3d Photographic Group, with F-
5A's, arrives at Mount Farm, England from the US.
  The 337th, 338th, 339th and 413th Bombardment Squadrons (Heavy), 96th
Bombardment Group (Heavy) with B-17F's, arrive at Great Saling, England
from the US. The squadrons will fly their first combat mission tomorrow.
  The 417th Night Fighter Squadron, VIII Fighter Command arrives at Ayr,
Scotland from the US. and begins training with Beaufighters.
  The 508, 509th 510th and 511th Bombardment Squadrons (Heavy), 351st
Bombardment Group (Heavy), with B-17F's, arrive at Polebrook, England from
the US. They will fly their first combat mission on Friday.

MEDITERRANEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS

  EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN (Ninth Air Force)
    In Tunisia, B-25's bomb targets in the battle area in NE Tunisia.

  WESTERN MEDITERRANEAN (Northwest African Air Force)
    In Sicily, Northwest African Strategic Air Force (NASAF) Wellingtons
bomb the docks at Marsala during the night of 11/12 May; some bombs fall
on Mazara del Vallo and Trapani.
    In Tunisia, Northwest African Tactical Air Force (NATAF) fighters, A-
20's, and medium bombers fly sweeps and tactical reconnaissance over the
battle area and hit positions S of Bou Ficha which form the last link
between the enemy forces and the sea. By night, enemy resistance in the S
is almost ended. Enemy troops, including Colonel-General Jurgen von Arnim,
Commander-in-Chief, Army Group Africa, are surrendering en masse.
    HQ 86th Bombardment Group (Dive) and it's 309th Bombardment Squadron
(Dive) with A-36's arrive at La Senia, Algeria from the US.
    The 92d Fighter Squadron, 81st Fighter Group, with P-39's, transfers
from Maison Blanche, Algeria to Warnier, Algeria.
    The ground echelon of the 415th Night Fighter Squadron, Twelfth Air
Force arrives at La Senia, Algeria from the US. The air echelon is in
England training with Beaufighters.

SOUTH PACIFIC THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Thirteenth Air Force)
  In the Solomons during the night of 11/12 May, B-17's fly snooper
strikes against Kahili Airfield. During the early morning hours, P-40's
and Navy aircraft hit AA positions, runway and revetments there.

SOUTHWEST PACIFIC THEATER OF OPERATIONS (Fifth Air Force)
  In New Guinea, B-25's bomb the airfield and surrounding area at
Finschhafen.
  In the Moluccas B-24's hit Saumlakki.
  Single heavy bombers hit Salamaua, New Guinea and Gasmata in the
Bismarck Archipelago.

SOURCES:
AIR FORCE COMBAT UNITS OF WORLD WAR II, Office of Air Force History,
  Headquarters USAF, 1961, ISBN 0-912799-02-1
COMBAT SQUADRONS OF THE AIR FORCE, WORLD WAR II, Office of Air Force
  History, Headquarters USAF 1982
THE ARMY AIR FORCES IN WORLD WAR II: COMBAT CHRONOLOGY, 1941-1945 by the
  Office of Air Force History, Headquarters USAF, 1973
THE MIGHTY EIGHTH WAR DIARY by Roger A. Freeman, ISBN 1-85409-071-2

Jack McKillop
USAF (Airways and Air Communications Service)
1955-59

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 07:31:55 EDT
From:    Lowe Barrett MAJ <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Some information on the Balkans.

To Larry Jewel:

I put some info on this together a little while ago.  Maybe in a slightly
easier to read format.

The first section is on the German campaign to conquer Yugoslavia in 1941
and the second section is on their order of battle in early 1944 when they
were heavily engaged in counter-guerrilla operations.

Most of my info came from the same DA PAM that your cite.

Barry

Section 1

Balkan Campaign:  6-30 April 1941

(It took the German Army just 12 days to
conquer Yugoslavia, and to the end of the
month to clear Greece).

Order of Battle:

2nd Italian Army (10 divisions, of questionable
combat effectiveness).

German 2. Armee  (von Weichs)

LII Armeekorps:  183 Inf. Div and 132 Inf. Div
                 (these had 3 regiments)

LI Armeekorps:  125 Inf. Div and 79 Inf. Div
                (these had 3 regiments)

XXXXIX Armeekorps:  101 Jager Div (Light)
                    1 Gebirgsjager Div (Mountain)
                    (these had 2 regiments)

XXXXVI Panzerkorps:  8 Panzer Div
                     14 Panzer Div
                     16 Mot. Inf. Div (precursor to PanzerGrenadiers)

German 12. Armee  (List)

XI Armeekorps:  294 Inf. Div (3 regiments)
                4 Gebirgsjager Div (2 regiments)

XXX Armeekorps:  164 Inf. Div (3 regiments, later transferred to
                               the Afrikakorps)
                 72 Inf. Div and 50 Inf. Div
                 (these had 3 regiments)

XVIII Armeekorps:  5 Gebirgsjager Div (2 regiments)
                   6 Gebirgsjager Div (2 regiments)
                   2 Panzer Div

Panzergruppe 1 (von Kleist)

XXXX Panzerkorps:  9 Panzer Div
                   Liebstandarte Adolph Hitler (Waffen SS:
                        Mot. Inf. Div at this time, later Panzer Div)
                   73 Inf. Div (3 regiments)

XIV Panzerkorps:  5 Panzer Div
                  11 Panzer Div
                  60 Mot. Inf. Div

XXXXI Panzerkorps:  Das Reich Div (Waffen SS)
                    Grossdeutschland Mot. Inf. Regt
                    Hermann Goering Brigade

Armee Reserve:  16 Panzer Div
                198 Inf. Div, 76 Inf. Div, and 46 Inf. Div
                 (these had 3 regiments)

Later, for operations on Crete (in May 1941, the 7th Fleiger Division
of Fallschirmjager -- paratroopers -- was brought in).

Order of Battle taken from P. 42 of:
Kampf und Untergang der Deutschen Panzertruppe 1939-1945

Section 2

German Forces in the Balkans:  26 Dec 43 (taken from DA Pam 20-243)

I.  Serbia and Croatia:

XV Gebrigskorps:    371 Inf. Div. (3 Regts); good unit, to Russian Front
                        early 1944
               373 Inf. Div. (2 Regts); formed with Croatian volunteers
               1 Cossack Div. (6 Cav Regts); Cossack/Tatar/Kazakh
               114 Jager Div. (2 Regts); formed from 714 Inf. Div, made up
                    from older personnel and Landwehr
               264 Inf. Div. (3 Regts)

V SS Gebirgskorps:  181 Inf. Div. (3 Regts); good unit, to Russian Front
                        late 1944
               369 Inf. Div. (2 Regts); formed with Croatian volunteers
               118 Jager Div. (2 Regts); formed from 718 Inf. Div., made up
                    from older personnel and Landwehr
               1 Gebirgsjager Div. (2 Regts); a good unit
               7 SS Gebirgsjager Div. "Prinz Eugen" (2 Regts), a good unit

LXIX Armeekorps:    173 Res. Inf. Div. (3 Regts)
               42 Jager Div. (2 Regts); formed from 187 Res. Inf. Div.
               367 Inf. Div. (3 Regts); a good unit, to Russian Front
                        early 1944

1st Bulgarian Corps:     22 Bulgarian Inf. Div.
                         24 Bulgarian Inf. Div.
                         25 Bulgarian Inf. Div.
                         27 Bulgarian Inf. Div.

II:  In Albania:

XXI Gebrigskorps:   297 Inf. Div. (3 Regts); a good unit, to Russian Front
                          early 1944
               100 Jager Div. (2 Regts)

III:  In Greece:

LXVIII Armeekorps:  117 Jager Div. (2 Regts); formed from 717 Inf. Div., made
                          up from older personnel and Landwehr
               11 Luftwaffe Feld-Div. (2 Regts)

XXII Armeekorps:    104 Jager Div. (2 Regts); formed from 704 Inf. Div., made
                         up from older personnel and Landwehr

Armeekorps Crete:   22 Luftlande-Div. (3 Regts); a good unit
                    Festung Brigade "Crete"

HQ Salonika:        4 SS Pz.Gren. Div. "Polizei" (3 Regts), to Russia early
                            1944
                    7 Bulgarian Inf. Div.

Aegean Corps:       26 Bulgarian Inf. Div.
                    28 Bulgarian Inf. Div.

IV:  Other Units:

13 SS Gebirgsjager Div. "Handschar" (2 Regts); formed from Croatian volunteers
       and Bosnian Muslims, a poor unit, dissolved in mid-1944

21 SS Gebirgsjager Div. "Skanderbeg"; never more than regimental size
       (kampfgruppe), formed from Albanian volunteers, a poor unit

23 SS Gebirgsjager Div. "Kama"; never more than regimental size (kampfgruppe),
      formed from Croatian volunteers and Bosnian Muslims

392 Inf. Div. (3 Regts); a good unit, formed from Croatian volunteers, fought
on the Russian Front, never used in counter-guerrilla operations

V:  Notes:  Unit information comes from Hitler's Legions by Samuel Mitcham.

A division formed with 3 regiments (denoted by 3 Regts on the chart) had the
organization of a full strength unit:  support units included (typically) an
artillery regiment with 3 to 4 artillery battalions, an engineer battalion, a
reconnaissance battalion, an anti-tank battalion, and a flak (air defense)
battalion.  Full strength around 17,000 soldiers.  Some later war 3 regiment
divisions only had 14,000-15,000 soldiers.

A division formed with 2 regiments (denoted by 2 Regts on the chart) had a
lesser scale of support:  (typically) an artillery regiment with 2 to 3
artillery battlions, an engineer company, a reconnaissance company, an
anti-tank company or battalion, perhaps a fusilier battalion (bicycle mounted).

Full strength at 11,000-12,000 soldiers, later war as low as 8,000 soldiers
authorized.
The Gebirgsjager Divisions, while organized with only 2 regiments, normally
had a full complement of divisional support.  Full strength at around
11,000-12,000 soldiers.  As the war progressed, very few German units
could be found with a full table of organization and equipment (except the
Waffen SS Panzer Divisions and Army units like the Grossdeutschland
Panzer Grenadier Division or the Panzer Lehr Division).

Barrett F. Lowe                    RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
MAJ, IN
Dept of Physics, US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 07:53:24 EST
From:    Larry Jewell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Some information on the Balkans.

>
> To Larry Jewel:
>
> I put some info on this together a little while ago.  Maybe in a slightly
> easier to read format.

  Yes, much easier to read.  Being a Navy type, I haven't had much need
to decypher TO&E's, etc.  I do, however, tend to quote the original source
as exactly as possible, without additions or amplifications (unless a serious
need is apparent, such as a claim that later proved inaccurate.)

 With you permission, I'll append your file to the one I'm sending to BYRD,
with appropriate attribtuion, of course.

Larry J

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 08:40:20 CDT
From:    Pat Hughes <[email-masked]>
Subject: Balkans

In addition to the GERMAN ANTIGUERRILLA OPERATIONS IN THE BALKANS (1941-1944)
which has been mentioned a couple of times on the list, there is THE GERMAN
CAMPAIGNS IN THE BALKANS (SPRING 1941) DA Pamphlet 20-260 November 1953.

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 12:18:57 EDT
From:    Lowe Barrett MAJ <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Some information on the Balkans.

Larry,

No problem at all.  I think this bulletin board is a great way to find out
things and pass information.

Barry

Barrett F. Lowe                    RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
MAJ, IN
Dept of Physics, US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 10:00:00 PST
From:    Stephen Fox <[email-masked]>
Subject: SF Bay Area Only

I am looking for someone to do a small piece of research for me.
It would involve going to the library of the ILWU (1188 Franklin,
SF) and copying some newspaper (The Dispatcher) articles for me
re one of the people I am writing about in my book on German American
internment during WWII.  As far as I know there are 14 articles and
they are probably short ones.

If you are interested contact me privately, and we can discuss the details,
including your compensation.

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 23:06:59 +0100
From:    David Niemeijer <[email-masked]>
Subject: WOII aerial photographs SE-Poland

                                                         Amsterdam, 12 May 1993.

I am working on a project on the effects of the second world war on the spatial
organisation in a small village in south-eastern Poland. Jasliska (Krosno
district), a small border village (Polish-Slowakian border) lost 25% of its
inhabitants (Jews) during WOII. This had a profound effect on the spatial
structure of the village. From a small town it was transformed into a small
village. Even around the market square the number of houses thinned out and the
area under pasture and gardens increased.

I have collected several old cadastral maps (1896 and 1975) and Polish army
aerial photos (1954 and 1978). What I am looking for now are aerial photographs
taken during or before WOII. Polish sources indicate that such photographs
were taken by the Western allied forces as well as the Russians. The photos are
apparently not in Polish hands.

If anyone has any idea where I may find such photos (in which archives in
which countries), please let me know. (Any suggestions on other places to post
this message are also welcome.)

P.S. I prefer a private mail reply.

David Niemeijer
([email-masked])

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 18:58:00 EST
From:    Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition! <[email-masked]>
Subject: Sign off

Please sign me off.  I am going home for the summer.

                                Thanks,

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 16:03:21 CDT
From:    [email-masked]
Subject: Re: World War II Airman's Preservation Society RE:re:

>
> I recently joined the World War II Airman's Preservation Society, which
> is an organization of collectors and historians who re-enact, or attempt
> to re-enact insome small way, and display what both flight and ground
> personnel in the U.S. Army Air Forces around the world.

I find this MOST interesting, and VERY worth while. You mention "in some
small way".. What do you mean by this? .. Just curious..

>
> The WWII APS is set up as the 91st Bomb Group, 8th Air Force stationed
> at Bassenbourn, England, with all of it's subordinate units.  Members
> who wish to portray flight crew are assigned a position on a crew, as
> well as an aircraft tail number and name.  At events where WWII aircraft
> are present, living displays are set up, where members stand by the
> aircraft and inform spectators of the role of each individual in the
> crew (eg--I am the Navigator, My job is to......).  Ground crews do much
> the same.The WWII APS is invited to many different airshows where WWII
> aircraft are present, and are attending events such as the Memphis Belle
> 50th Anniversary of her last combat mission, and the 8th Air Force
> reunion.

When are these events? If I join the group, would I be able to take
part in these activities?

>
> The WWII APS sets very high standards for authenticity, and personal
> appearance.  USAAF hair standards of 1942 are enforced, and uniforms
> must be original, or perfect reproductions.  It requires an outlay of to

This is a MAJOR point of interest. Since originals are few and far between,
and usually end up with collectors, somtimes making prices unaffordable,
where could I look for 'replicas' that are good enough to be used with the
group you are talking about.. I.e. where do you guys get your replicas,
uniforms, visor caps, ensignia, -- all the way down to the socks. :-)

Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for
a replica WWII Pilots Uniform, 1943 Dress, and Flight Suit, as well as
shoes, insignia/patches for the 8th Airforce 91st BB, Jacket (Eastman,
I guess), tie, visor-cap, belt, etc...

> set up a uniform, and then however large a display you wish to prepare.
> I've seen several members of the WWII APS in full kit before, and they
> look sharp.  Authenticity is a stckler---if you aren't interested in
> doing it well, don't consider joining.

Athenticity is the MOST important item to me, and has always been. There
just isn't any use in portraying the original time and ways, if you don't
have the 'perfect' example of the original, the planes, the uniforms,
the talk, the manner, the appearance...  If one does a good job of the
portrayal, it can be incredible!!

>
> If you are interested in joining, there are several wings across the
> United States, to include St. Louis, Chicago, Ohio and Pennsylvania.  It
> cost $5 a year to join, for which you receive their newsletter,
> "Contrails".  For further information, contact me by phone or E-mail, or
> contact Jim Otto, 10657 St Veronica Court, St. Ann, MO 63074.

I am VERY interested, but also wondering if there is a chapter closer to
Minneapolis?.. I guess if I have to go as far as Chicago, I probably will
since this has always been an interest to me. Whenever I work on WWII plane
restorations, such as the one I just helped to complete, everything HAS to
be most authentic. I mean all the way down to the pilot that gets into the
cockpit. In my opinion, it would be a dishonour to put on a set of NEW
headgear-phones, to make an appearance to a Warbird Show. The ONLY way of
flying in, would be to completely and 'acurately' portray the wear and gear
as well as the plane itsself. In doing the restoration of the Me109, I made
sure that everything was the way it was.. including going so far as to hide
all the modern-day avionics (required by current day laws), so that the
Oberst from the JG that gave me tips and much help on the 'way it was',
was MOST impressed.

For the first time since the recovery of the 109, my partner/friend and
I turned-over the rebuilt engine, with the former Commander watching..
The sound was like nothing I had ever heard, and he came running up
to me, asking if he could sit in the cockpit. He was amazed at the correct-
ness and detail of the interior, with tears in his eyes. He revved the
engine a few times, with the tail still up on blocks/jacks, and then
shut it down. We almost couldn't get him out of the thing, but I heard
stories from him that mesmorized me for hours. He was even so kind to point
out a half-dozen or so items that should be changed for the sake of pure
athenticity.

Things like that bring a feeling like none other, it makes 'everything'
worth while. I would do it again and again.... Precisely.

I fear the day when no one remembers what it was like during that time,
Americans, Germans, british, etc.. All the powers involved in WWII. It's
so important to keep it alive, the 'right' way. When all is said and done,
the next 10-20 years will steal the rest of the men and women that serverd
during that time.. No-one to ask questions of 'what was it REALLY like?',
no one to startle with, "GAWD!! What it that up there? I DON'T believe it!
It's a P-51D Mustang and a 109e in a dogfight over Minneapolis!! :-)

Then there is the awsome responsibility of reminding Americans, as well as
the citizens of other nations, the great loss, hardship and work these
men and women endured for their nations, in the greatest airborn con-
frontation the world has ever whitnessed.

>
> In the future, I will post an updated WWII HRS, and a WWII APS calender.

PLEASE!! :-)

>
> Please feel free to repost this on other any other list.
>
> Tim A. Scherrer CPT, USAAF, Intelligence Officer, 91st Bomb Group, WWII
> APS Obergefreiter, 11th Panzer Division, WWII HRS 1LT, MI, USAR (I think
> I need a couple more ranks and titles)

Aww comeone, pick one, and be the BEST at it! :-)

Peter

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Date:    Wed, 12 May 1993 21:23:32 EST
From:    Larry Jewell <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Sign off

>
> Please sign me off.  I am going home for the summer.
>
>                                 Thanks,
Have a nice summer!

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Bon Chance!

Larry J

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