<199407181054.DAA18328@mcghub.mcg.mot.com> >Now to complicate matters, "hoff" can be (er, um) verbed. "Hoffi" is >a perfectly respectable verb. You canask the same question with the >long form of the verb, "Ydych chi'n hoffi hufen ia+?" and so on, and >the answer is still the same. However the short form doesn't sound >at all right to me: "Hoffwch chi hufen ia+?" ought undoubtedly to >mean the same thing, but sounds quite wrong. (No doubt an expert will >tell me why.) I don't claim to be an expert, but to me 'hoffwch' has more of a future sense than a present sense to it, so it sounds "wrong" to me in the same way that "will you like some ice cream?" sounds wrong in English (I would think the person saying such an English sentence was a non-native speaker). --Mark