> > > Yes; you seem to be at odds with David Thorne, who in his recent > > grammar says (p. 155): '"hwynt" is not used in the accusative with > > verbs ending in "-nt". > > I think David Thorne means something else here (Sorry, I don't have my copy to > hand right now). I suspect what he means is that although hwynt IS an > accusative pronoun, you can't use it after a verb that itself ends in -nt > because it sounds bad (repetition of -nt etc). So: > > gwelsant hwy they saw (not *gwelsant hwynt) > > gwelais hwynt I saw them > gwelaist hwynt You saw them > gwelodd hwynt He/She/It saw them > gwelsom hwynt We saw them > gwelsoch hwynt You saw them > gwelsant hwy They saw them (not *gwelsant hwynt) > > Does this tally with the book? - David. No, it tallies with what I originally assumed to be the case: that the restriction is on having -nt twice, therefore not *gwelsant hwynt meaning either 'they saw' or 'they saw them'. What Thorne says is what I quoted him as saying: that hwynt is not used in the 'accusative' with verbs ending in -nt (thereby implying, or at any rate leaving room for the inference, that (a) it is or could be used in the 'nominative' with verbs ending in -nt, and (b) -- equally false, I imagine -- that it could be used as the object of prepositions ending in -nt). ************************ Nigel Love Linguistics Cape Town NLOVE@BEATTIE.UCT.AC.ZA ************************