To: Multiple recipients of list WELSH-L In-Reply-To: <199406142244.PAA21191@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Dweud y gwir, nid Americanaidd ydy beiglau (beiglod ?), ond Awstraidd/ Pwylaidd. Daethant o Wein, prifddinas yr ymherodraeth Awstraidd yn y 17fed ganrif--a'u henwi ar o+l *gwarthaflau* Jan Sobiesky brenin Gwlad Pwyl a gododd warchae y ddinas gan fyddin y Syltan. Ystyr 'bugel' yn Almaeneg yw 'gwarthafl'. [ Bagels turn out to be from Vienna originally, and are named for the stirrups of the king of Poland. New York bagels are excellent, if not original; California bagels are often excellent, even if not from New York. I have never eaten a Viennese bagel, and I have never even *seen* a Polish stirrup -- as for Welsh bagels...I prefer bara brith. ] ---- ___ ------------------- | IC | XP XPICTOC John D. Ward |----+----| ANECTH UCD Medical Center Library NI | KA EK NEKPON (916) 734-3529 _|_ jdward@ucdavis.edu On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Tom Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Wayne Chenoweth wrote: > > > the context of uh-oh is as follows: Did you eat the last blueberry > > bagel? you did eat it so you reply uh-oh. > > Come to think of it, is there a welsh translation of the word "bagel"? > I shouldn't think so. Bagels are a Jewish-American invention I believe. > (And New York makes the best ones.) I was dismayed to find out bagels did > not escape American cultural captivity. There's no such thing as a bagel > in the UK. :( > > -= Tom =- >