> >The Ll is a voiceless lateral fricative (technically speaking). You make > >it by placing the tip of your tongue on the roof of your mouth just > >behind the incisors, and blowing around the tongue--without your voicebox > >turned on. We have this sound in some dialects of English. It occurs in > >words that begin with 'pl' (plant, plow, Placerville) IN BETWEEN the 'p' > >and the 'l'. Listen for it. > > > >+john ward > > If that doesn't sound right, try positioning your tongue as for 'l' but instead > of 'turning on the voice box' blow voiclessly. This is not quite correct, but > the resulting sound is close enough to be recognised as - even mistaken for - > the correct 'Ll' sound. > > Don't take this as a licence to mis-pronounce, though, follow John's > instructions and if they don't work (and they should) try mine as a last > resort. > > Good luck... > > > Pob Hwyl > Huw > Huw Garan (NJ152@uk.ac.lamp.vms) Could someone please explain the difference between these sets of instructions, and why Huw's version is 'not quite correct'. ************************ Nigel Love Linguistics Cape Town NLOVE@BEATTIE.UCT.AC.ZA ************************