> > > Could someone please explain the difference between these sets of > > >instructions, and why Huw's version is 'not quite correct'. > NJ152@uk.ac.lamp.vms (Huw Garan): > > My instructions are not quite correct, since the tongue is placed much > > further to the side of the mouth, as for 'l' than it would be for a correct > > 'll' sound. Try it - position your tongue as for 'l' and blow voiclessly, the > n > > position your tongue as for a correct 'll' i.e. almost against the front teeth > , > > and make the 'll'. > > Well, if we're going to be picky... :-) > > In the articulation of the Welsh lateral fricative, "the tip and blade of the > tongue make a firm cantact with the upper alveolar ridge and the rims of one > side (usually the left side) of the tongue make total contact with the upper > side teeth. The opening between the lips is almost as narrow as for /s/ and > the air escapes with friction over the side of the tongue that has no contact > with the upper molars. The friction is voiceless." > > From: "Welsh phonology", ed. M.J. Ball and G.E. Jones (1984). Cardiff: > University of Wales Press. Pages 48-49. > Hmm -- "almost against the front teeth" doesn't sound like the "upper alveolar ridge". Personal variation? Personal and regional variation? ************************ Nigel Love Linguistics Cape Town NLOVE@BEATTIE.UCT.AC.ZA ************************