I have just joined this list as I am interested in Wales and in learning the language. I have to say that I have found the discussions regarding Welsh independence from England very interesting. Especially in light of the fact that as a Canadian I am being faced with the possibility of my country being divided for many of the same issues - preservation of language, culture and way of life. It should be intesresting to see if Canadians just don't feel its worth it anymore to try and keep a part of the country in it if it no longer wants to be there or if it turns out to be a horrible, awful mess (I see this as being the reality). Just my .02 on an interesting topic. back to the land of the lurkers. Suzanne McFadyen Kwantlen College Surrey, B.C. Canada (e-mail suzanne@kwantlen.bc.ca)