Diolch to all to answered my question. I suppose I must now choose between "Y Ddreiglyn" and "Llyn y ddraig". The lively discussion inspired me to pull out my Catchphrase book, dust it off, and keep it beside the computer. Since joining this group, I have had new hope that I will be able to fulfill a promise I made to my dear, late grandfather to learn his parents' language. (Is the road to Annwn paved with good intentions?) Here, in sunny south Florida, many people speak a strange dialect called "Spenglish" (=Spanish+English, ie "Voy a caminar por el expressway"). I will no doubt be communicating with you in a Welsh+English hybrid for some time (Wellish?). I apologize in advance. Sharon Zane