Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 2 no. 184 April 26, 1993 1) Di fir kashes af yidish (Arnold Kuzmack) 2) Noun Phrase Constituent Order (Ellen Prince) 3) Slippers (Jascha Kessler) 4) Archives (Ya'aqov Ziso) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun Apr 25 19:01:01 1993 From: lkuzmack@sytex.com Subject: Di fir kashes af yidish We learned a different version in the Arbeter Ring schools, which has a lot more Hebrew than the other versions mentioned. Maybe as non- (or anti-) religious socialists, they wanted to show that they were not also amarotsim. I can't vouch for every word, but it goes something like this: ma nishtano halaylo haze mikol haleyloys? farvos is di dozike nakht fun peysakh andersh fun ale nekht fun a gants yor? shebekhol haleyloys -- ale nekht fun a gants yor esn mir say khomets say matse -- ober halaylo haze, in der doziker peysakh nakht, nor matse. shebekhol haleyloys -- ale nekht fun a gants yor esn mir alerley grinsn -- ober halaylo haze, in der doziker peysakh nakht, moroir, nor bitere kreitekher. shebekhol haleyloys -- ale nekht fun a gants yor tunken mir ayn afilu eyn mol nit -- ober halaylo haze, in der doziker peysakh nakht, tunken mir ayn tsvey mol. shebekhol haleyloys -- ale nekht fun a gants yor esn mir say zitsndik glaykh, say ongelent -- ober halaylo haze, in der doziker peysakh nakht, zitsm mir nor ongelent. Arnold Kuzmack 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon Apr 26 00:53:34 1993 From: "Ellen F. Prince" Subject: Re: Yiddish Noun Phrase Constituent Order To: Debra Halperin Biasca dvoyre: you've got our curiosity aroused! i'd love to hear about the similarities you find between yiddish and turkish nps! a dank. ellen prince 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon Apr 26 01:46:40 1993 From: KESSLER Subject: Slippers for David Sherman: in my family, backless slippers were called "puhdeshvis" more or less phonetically presented here, or "pahdeshves." Bessarabian yiddish? Jascha Kessler 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon Apr 26 09:29:46 1993 From: Ya'aqov Ziso Subject: Archives 1. The "Chronicle of higher education" of 4-21-93 reports on an undertaking based at the Center for Archival Studies at the Russian State Humanities University in Moscow, co-sponsored by the JTS and YIVO Institute for Jewish Research, both based in NYC. Archival material consisting of 19th century documents, manuscripts, and photographs from Jewish schools, theaters, political parties, and other religious and cultural organizations are (will be ?) in the process of being abstracted and described, item by item. A vast undertaking. Ultimately, these descriptions and abstracts will form a catalogue in both English and Russian. The team working on this project plans on possibly putting the catalogue on a computer disk. 2. YIVO's Zachary Baker reported on this undertaking taking shape already at AJL's 1991 Annual Convention in Miami Beach. Perhaps Mr. Baker can keep us up to date on the progress of this undertaking. While I am most interested in the collaboration with teaching faculty members, I am evidently concerned with the very technical services specifics of the cataloging and archiving procedures involved herein: the machine readable format selected for the catalogue, its cataloging and archiving standards, the method by which these standards and procedures will be maintained, and the linguistic and area study background requirements asserted over those who will perform this undertaking. In particular, as I pointed in my earlier address to this list, I most concerned with the accuracy in transcribing the personal and corporate names from the Yiddish documents. All these will have a critical impact over the outcome of the undertaking, ultimately affecting what will be accessed (on the Internet, for example), and its reliability. Ya'aqov Ziso ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol 2.184