Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 4.014 June 6, 1994 1) Subject pro-drop (Ellen Prince) 2) Yiddish Events in Tel Aviv (Moshe Maszlanka) 3) Yidish Vokh (Odem Vaytman) 4) Oyver-botl and its original form (Dovid Braun) 5) Questions from the Underworld (Gregg Kinkley) 6) Baltaxe (Henry Mullish) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun Jun 5 08:26:57 1994 From: "Ellen F. Prince" Subject: Subject pro-drop [To Bob Rothstein:] just got home from israel and was delighted to find your note [Vol4.012] about zaretski and kagarov. just what i was hoping for! thanks! (if you or anyone else come across anything else, i'd be grateful to hear about them as well.) ellen prince 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun Jun 5 12:48:25 1994 From: ruah9408@ccsg.tau.ac.il Subject: Yiddish Events in Tel Aviv If you haven't found yet enough reasons to visit Israel, here you have 2 more: 12 June 1994 at the Tel Aviv Museum Hall (Shaul Hameleh Blvd.) will be otorgued the ITZIK MANGER Yidish Literature prize (24th. issue). [at 7.30 p.m.] David Hofshtein Prize, by the Yidish Writers in Israel Union. (8th. Issue). Monday, 27th June 1994, 7 p.m. at the Lrivik House, 30 Dov Hoz St. Tel Aviv. Moshe Maszlanka 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun Jun 5 21:48:05 1994 From: 74031.775@CompuServe.COM Subject: Yidish Vokh YIDISH VAKATSIYE Di yerlikhe Yugntruf-Yidish vokh iz say far nisht khasene gehate, say far khasene gehate, vos zukhn a kheynivdike iberlebung mit netsbol, shvimen, zingen, zikh shifln, shpatsirn, lektsiyes, a lager-fayer un a sakh mer - alts oyf yidish! Mir yidish-libhobers funem yingern dor vos zenen far a yorn gekumen oyf undzer 18ter yerlikher yidish-vokh fun Yugntruf (der ershte iz geven in 1976) gedenken vi gut mir hobn farbrakht. M'iz shoyn gekumen fun frankraykh, daytshland, ungarn, yapan, shveydn un kanade, vi oykh fun a tuts shtatn. Dos yor vet di yidish-vokh forkumen dinstik, dem 30stn oygust, biz montik, dem 5tn september, 1994, in "kemp emanuel" in Copake, NY, in de prekhtike berkshir-berg. Dos esn iz kosher, un s'iz do a shil. S'vet zayn a kindhiter bshas gevise aktivitetn. Der prayz far der gantser vokh iz a vilde mitsiye -- bsakh-hakl $190 a mentsh oyb ir blaybt biz zuntik dem 4tn september, arayngerekhnt trinkgelt un transport fun shtot New York. Oyb ir kent blaybn biz montik, dem 5tn september, kost bloyz $15 mer, bsakh-hakl $205. Far private tsimer/vashtsimer darf men nokh tsutsoln $25/$50 a mentsh. Ale bateylikte in der yidish vokh darfn zayn Yugntruf-mitglider. Dos khaver gelt iz ober say vi a mitsiye: $10 far studentn, $18 far nisht-studentn. Me darf registrirn in gikhn. Far a yorn hot zikh ongefilt gikh. Gedenk zhe tsu reservirn ayere erter bald. Mir shteln itst tsunoyf dem tsaytplan far der yidish-vokh. Oyb siz do a teme vos ir kent veygn ir redn (lemoshl, literatur tsi politik), oder an aktivitet vos ir kent onfirn (lemoshl, a sportshpil), zayt azoy gut, lozt undz visn oyfn aplikir-boygn do untn, un shikt im arayn in eynem mit ayer tshek in byuro fun Yugntruf, 200 West 72nd Street, #40, NY NY 10023-2805 Der telefon numer in der Yugntruf byuro iz 212-787-6675. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vi heyst ir? __________________________________ Oyf yidish ___________________ Adres ________________________________________________________________________ Telefon (in ovnt) _______________________ Telefon (bay tog) __________________ Vi vilt ir kumen? ____oyto ____ Brukliner oytobus ___Bronkser oytobus Oyb ir kent onfirn mit an aktivitet, oder ouf a gevise teme, git do a kurtse bashraybung : ________________________________________________________________ Mishpokhe: rekhnt oys di nemen fun di mishpokhe-glider vos kumen mit, vi oykh di elter fun di kinder _______________________________________________________ Vilt ir beser a private tsimer/vashtsimer ($25/$50 iberik a mentsh)? _________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Odem Vaytman 4)---------------------------------------------------- From @YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu:LISTSERV@YALEVM.CIS.YALE.EDU Mon Jun 6 19:49:40 1994 From: dovid@MIT.EDU Subject: oyver-botl and its original form The spelling of oyver-botl in that article in the Forverts is according to how the expression appears in peyrek (Pirkey Oves). I doubt it was meant to be read any way other than [oyver-botl]. Assuming Yiddish got the expression from Mishnaic Hebrew, we would indeed expect [oyver-uvoteyl] and then maybe [oyver-uvotl]. Yiddish is "bound" by the rule in the sense that, if a lexical item in which this rule is instantiated makes it into Yiddish, the phonetic output of such a rule shouldn't be expected to be different in Yiddish, al- though it may be. In oyver-botl, the original sounds different in the Yiddish by lacking the result of the Hebrew lenition rule (/b/ going to /v/ after /u/) AND the conjunction u- itslef. So if oyver-uvoteyl is read without the conjunction in Whole Hebrew, you have oyver-boteyl and not *oyver-voteyl. The u- dropped out first, presumably within Hebrew where Hebrew phonological rules hold, then got integrated into Yiddish where vowel reduction took place a la Yiddish phonological rules and stress patterns: boteyl --> botl. So my assumption is that oyver-uvoteyl was already lacking the conjunction in pre-Yiddish Hebrew speech (vernacular or learned discourse, or whatever form of Hebrew it was that first fed into Yiddish). Dovid Braun 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon Jun 6 20:30:00 1994 From: gkinkley@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu Subject: Questions from the Underworld Aloha, mendelniks, fun Hawaii, the treyffene medinah of the Pacific. I had to desubscribe from mendele for awhile (I was on Compu$erve), but now with an internet connection I am back I hope. I have two questions, both of which can probably be answered readily by most of you out there, but I plead my ignorance, so bear with me: 1. What does YIVO stand for? (not politically; acronymically) 2. What does "shpilkes" mean? Etymology? At this point in my beginning of the study of Yiddish, I'm afraid that if Leo Rosten doesn't have it, I don't have it. Any help would be appreciated. Gregg Kinkley 6)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon Jun 6 21:06:17 1994 From: MULLISH@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU Subject: Baltaxe Since there are so many melamdim on this discussion list, permit me to present the following question. I have recently made a professional e-mail contact with a fellow whose last name is Baltaxe. He is a proud Jew and though an American now lives and teaches in a university in New Zealand. He claims that his name means originally: the bailiff of a rabbinical court. I wonder if anyone can corroborate this meaning? Henry Mullish ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol. 4.014 A Table of Contents is now available via anonymous ftp, along with weekly updates. Anonymous ftp archives available on: ftp.mendele.trincoll.edu in the directory pub/mendele/files Archives available via gopher on: gopher.cic.net Mendele has 2 rules: 1. Provide a meaningful Subject: line. 2. Sign your article. 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