Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 4.070 July 24, 1994 1) Yiddish radio broadcasts (Avrom Yitzkhok Blair) 2) Ay/ey (Khayem Bochner) 3) Madekshekhe (Khayem Bochner) 4) Loz mir alle zingen (Rita Falbel) 5) Introductory Yiddish books (Howard Gershen) 6) N.Y YIVO's new address (Zachary Baker) 7) Yiddish Club in LA? (Bob Novick) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:00:39 EDT From: ablair@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Yiddish radio broadcasts A kurtzeh frageh, zayt azay gut: There has been much talk of Yiddish broadcasts in New York, and a little about Boston. Are there any in other parts of the country? Are there tapes available from WEVD et al? Nu, ruf mir a ligner, es iz geven TVAY frages! Avrom Yitzkhok (Allan) Blair 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:41:50 -0400 From: bochner@das.harvard.edu Subject: Re: ay/ey Peter Kluehs fregt: > Ken mir emetser fun aykh derklern, van men shraybt yidishe verter vos > shtamn von amoldikn daitsh, mit an un nisht mit an , oyb di > glaykhn daitshn verter vern oysgeredt vi ? > Iz do efsher faran a regl oder hot men gekont gefinen an altn daitshishn > dialekt vos hot gehot a dosike ortografye??? Nu, keyn groyser kener fun der geshikhte fun daytsh bin ikh nisht. Kh'ob ober nisht gezen keyn ander entfer, vel ikh entfern oyf vifl ikh ken. Ershtns, me muz farshteyn az dos iz nisht keyn inyen fun ortografye, nor an inyen fun aroysred. Me shraybt eynike verter mit , un andere mit , vayl me redt zey aroys azoy. (Yo, yo, kh'veys gants gut az in andere dialektn redt men aroys andersh, nor dos iz an ander problem.) Iz di frage, ken men visn, fun dem hayntikn daytshishn klal-shprakh, ven me darf oyf yidish zogn [ay], un ven [ey]? Bekitser: neyn. Di tsvey klangen zenen tsunoyfgefaln oyf daytsh. Az me tut a kuk oyf Alt Hokh Daytsh, oder Mitl Hokh Daytsh, vet men zen az demolt hot men gehat tsvey bazundere klangen oyf daytsh oykh, azoy vi oyf yidish. Un oyb ikh hob gut farshtanen, zenen do haynt-tsaytike daytshishe dialektn vos hitn op nokh alts dem untersheyd. Nor vos tut men? Darf men zikh lernen Alt Hokh Daytsh, kedey tsu kenen yidish? Avade nisht; me darf zikh posht oyslernen yidish. Dos heyst, in dem fal, az me darf hobn a verter bukh vos shraybt klor dem untersheyd, un me darf leyenen zakhn vos nitsn dem modernem ortografye un shraybn dem untersheyd. Un az me hot mit vemen tsu redn, iz nokh beser! Bekitser, me darf zikh lernen, a vort nokh a vort, azoy vi me lernt a sprakh. Punkt azoy vi me darf zikh lernen az oyf yidish zogt men "ven", nisht "van" ;-) Khayem Bochner 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:49:44 -0400 From: bochner@das.harvard.edu Subject: Re: madekshekhe Andrew Cassel shraybt: > Iz do an andere, oykh fun zeyde's zikhroines: > "M'hot mit kuntzen oyfgebrokhen dem shlos fun Reuvn Madeksher's hoyf, > velkher hot gehondelt mit jegekhts, un m'hot aroysgekaykelt a dray-fir > laydige jegekhts tunen. Di madekshekhe hot zikh afile gepruft nit derlozn > tzu nemen di tunen ...." > Is "madekshekhe" a variant of the proper name, or does it have its own > meaning? Dos darf zayn a tsunemenish far reb Ruvns vayb. One of the functions of the "ekhe" suffix is to form nicknames for women based on their husbands names. Khayem Bochner [See the discussion in Vol 1.112, 114, 117-119 nm] 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 17:44:35 -0400 From: rfalbel@cumc.cornell.edu Subject: Loz mir alle zingen I don't know if this will respond to Harold Orbach's appeal for help with memories of an invitation to Loz mir alle singen. I know a Yiddish song: Lomir alle freylakh zayn, lomir alle zingen, zingen far sholum, zingen far broyd, boyen a morgn on hass un on noyt, boyen a morgn b'sholum. It could be that in song aleman doesn't fit with the music. By the way, does anyone know this song and maybe who wrote it, or where it came from? Rita Falbel 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 18:03:03 -0400 From: howard@boxhill.com Subject: Introductory Yiddish books Last night I got back two books on Yiddish I'd lent to a friend as a simple introduction to various aspects of Yiddish and Yiddish lore. Now that I've got them back, I wonder about how these books are regarded by the Yiddishists (?) of Mendele. Can someone let me know the value of these books as an introduction to Yiddish? One is a history of the language, and another is a collection of "proverbs" in three forms: Yiddish, Yiddish transliterated into English, and in English. The books are: _Mame Loshn: The Making of Yiddish_ by John Geipel; c. 1982, The Journeyman Press: West Nyack. _Words Like Arrows: A Treasury of Yiddish Folk Sayings_ compiled by Shirley Kumove, illustrated by Frank Newfeld; c. 1984, Warner Books edition (1986). advTHANKSance, Howard Gershen 6)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:55:12 PDT From: BM.YIB@RLG.Stanford.EDU Subject: N.Y YIVO's new address YIVO's new (interim, for about 2 years) address -- as of mid- September -- will be: 555 West 57th St., New York, NY 10019. (Cross-street: 11th Avenue.) The phone no. (212-535-6700) is expected to be the same. Details are not yet final, but about half of the library and archives will probably be on premises, and hours of service may be somewhat limited during that period. YIVO has signed a contract for the purchase of a building at 15 West 16th Street, where several organizations are planning to join together to create a Jewish research campus. Details still to-be-announced. Zachary Baker 7)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: bnovick@netcom.com Subject: Yiddish Club in LA? Mendele has raised my Yiddish-consciousness, so now I want more, some people with whom to speak Yiddish. I salivated over the description of the Toronto conference, but tell me, is there a Yiddish club in La or elsewhere in Southern California? Bob Novick ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol. 4.070 A Table of Contents is now available via anonymous ftp, along with weekly updates. Anonymous ftp archives available on: ftp.mendele.trincoll.edu in the directory pub/mendele/files Archives available via gopher on: gopher.cic.net Mendele has 2 rules: 1. Provide a meaningful Subject: line. 2. Sign your article. Send articles to: mendele@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu Other business: nmiller@mail.trincoll.edu