Mendele: Yiddish literature and language ______________________________________________________ Contents of Vol. 4.379 March 30, 1995 1) Translation fees (Joyce Rappaport) 2) Statistics of Yiddish-speakers (Iosif Vaisman) 3) Gut purim, gut purim.... (Bob Hoberman) 4) A lid far Mendelnikes (Ruvn Millman) 5) Di Partizanke by Daniel Charney (Leibel Yelgin) 1)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:29:56 -0800 (PST) From: rappapor@nexus.chapman.edu Subject: Translation fees I would like to have some current information about the fees for translators from Yiddish to English. The work I have in mind is about 100 typed Yiddish pages, single spaced. Please reply privately to me if you feel that this is an intrusion on Mendele's space. Joyce Rappaport 2)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: iiv@mmlds1.pha.unc.edu Subject: Statistics of Yiddish-speakers Some older data is available from the Ethnologue Database - 11th Ed., 1988 (gopher://gopher.urz.uni-heidelberg.de/00/subject/hd/fak10/eth/db/A/Indo-European/Germanic/Western/Continental/Upper/YIDDISH_%3d_JUDEO-GERMAN) Yiddish quotations from the Ethnologue Database: \C1 Germany, East \NAM Yiddish_=_Judeo-German \XXX YDD \CNT Europe \GP Indo-European/Germanic/Western/Continental/Upper \HUB Israel \REG Jewish communities. Also in Poland, Romania, Israel, USA, USSR, Latin America, Canada, Australia, South Africa \POPU 2,080,000 total (1986); 3,000,000 probably including second language speakers (1977 Hayes); 220,000 in USSR; 215,000 in Israel; 1,593,993 in USA (1970 census); 49,890 in Canada (1971 census) \BB 1821-1936 \OT 1678-1936 \NT 1821-1950 \PR 1544-1939 \TC S \R Spoken by only a handful of German Jews \REL Jewish \SPL Jewish \C1 Israel \NAM Yiddish_=_Judeo-German \XXX YDD \CNT Middle East \D Western Yiddish, Eastern Yiddish \EC Nida 1972 \GP Indo-European/Germanic/Western/Continental/Upper \REG Also in Germany, Poland, Romania, Latin America, Australia, South Africa. Now almost dead in Europe (1977 Adler) \POPU 215,000 in Israel, 5% of the population (1986); 220,000 in USSR (1979 census); 1,593,993 in USA (1970 census); 49,890 in Canada (1971 census); 2,080,000 total \C2 East Germany \C3 West Germany \C4 Poland \C5 Romania \C6 USSR \C7 USA \C8 Canada \C9 Australia \C10 South Africa \BB 1821-1936 \OT 1678-1936 \NT 1821-1950 \PR 1544-1939 \TC S \R Has many loans from Hebrew and local languages where spoken. Usually written in Hebrew character. Literary language usually based on Eastern dialect. Eastern Yiddish originated in Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine; Western Yiddish in Germany \TG SVO \PTO 2,080,000 \REL Jewish \SPL Jewish \C1 USSR, Europe \NAM YIDDISH_=_JUDEO-GERMAN \XXX YDD \CNT Europe \GP Indo-European/Germanic/Western/Continental/Upper \HUB Israel \REG Latvia and all parts of USSR. Weaker in central regions, more concentrated on periphery. Also in Germany, Poland, Romania, Latin America, Australia, South Africa \POPU 257,813 in USSR (1985 Haarman), 14.2% of Soviet Jews; 215,000 in Israel (1986 estimate); 1,593,993 in USA; 49,890 in Canada; 2,080,000 total (1986); 3,000,000 total (1977 Hayes; probably including second language speakers) \PIN Russian \BB 1821-1936 \OT 1678 \NT 1821-1950 \PR 1544-1939 \TC S \R Of the 1,811,000 Jewish people listed in the 1979 census, the majority speak Russian as their first language and virtually all others speak Russian as their second language. About 50,000 Jews speak Georgian, Tat, or Tajiki as their first language. Has literary status, but very little literature \REL Jewish \SPL Jewish . Other Jewish languages presented in the Ethnologue Database: judeo-berber arabic,_judeo-moroccan arabic,_judeo-tunisian yahudic_=_judeo-arabic yudi_=_judeo-arabic yevanic_=_judeo-greek judeo-kurdish dzhidi_=_judeo-persian judeo-italian_=_italkian zarphatic_=_judeo-french judeo-crimean_tatar_=_judeo-crimean_turkish judeo-georgian Iosif Vaisman 3)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:27:12 -0500 (EST) From: rhoberman@ccmail.sunysb.edu Subject: Gut purim, gut purim.... I know two very different variations on this theme. My mother, born in Brooklyn of Litvak parents, recites it this way: Haynt iz Purim, morgn iz oys Git mir a peni ['penny'] un varft mir aroys. My wife's parents, from Friedberg in Hessen, say this: Gut Purim, gut Purim, ihr liebe Leut', Wisst ihr all' was Purim bedeut'? Purim bedeut' ein langes Leben, Sollt ihr mir viel Purimgelt geben. (I'm not too confident about German spelling, but this indicates the pronunciation.) I'd love to hear that this has a Yiddish source, but as it stands it has nothing that marks it as Juedischdeutsch (other than, maybe, the syntax of the last line, with verb-first consecutive order?). Bob Hoberman 4)---------------------------------------------------- Date: 95-03-29 21:23:53 EST From: roland.millman@weiser.com Subject: A lid far Mendelnikes M.S. hot undz ibergegebn a lid far di vos meynen az ven der broyt iz opgegesn tor me nisht mer bakn. Ikh shik aykh a shrof fun nokh a lid vos ikh meyn toygt beser tsu der interes fun der merhayt fun Mendelayners. Am Yisroyl Khay! M. Knapheise/S. Beresovksy (Opgenumen fun _We Are Here_. Pub: Der Arbeter=Ring) Yidish-loshn, mame-loshn Nit farshtumt un nit farloshn Oysgesheylt iz shoy fun payn un vey Fu di ashn, fun di shtoybn Vi a fon aroysgehoybn Hobn mir es - Am Yisroyl khay! Ruvn Millman 5)---------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 11:15:55 -0500 From: yelgin@zk3.dec.com Subject: Di Partizanke by Daniel Charney Daniel Charney wrote a series of 10 articles about a woman partisan who survived the holocaust. The articles appeared in a Yiddish newspaper called Der Tog in the Winter of 1956 or 1957. My mother was a friend of Daniel Charney and is that woman partisan. I would like to find those back issues of Der Tog and am seeking advice on where to look. I have tried the National Yiddish Book Center, but they have mostly Yiddish magazines not newspapers. I will also try the Arbeter Ring and YIVO. Can anyone recommend other sources? Was Di Partizanke ever published in book form? How could I find out? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you. Leibel Yelgin ______________________________________________________ End of Mendele Vol. 4.379 Mendele has 2 rules: 1. Provide a meaningful Subject: line 2. 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