Yiddish Mailing List, Issue #18 January 19, 1990 73 lines =============================== A briv (Noyekh Miller) Hello (Dan Jurafsky) ------------------------ Digest-Message: 18/1 From: NMILLER@trincc.bitnet Date: Fri, 12 Jan 90 14:26:00 EST Subject: A briv Khusheve fraynt: Ikh shlug on dos folgendes. Anshtat ibersetzen computer verter fun aynglish oyf idish, volt shener geven un beser ven mir voltn emesse idishe nemen gegeben, dos hayst, verter vos shtamen direkt fun unzer leben un shprakh. Nisht a leikhte arbet, nisht an orovanie far yedn mentsh, aber a vikhtike. Zvaytens, volt ikh gevolt forlegn az emitzer, ayne fun di shtarke kep tsvishn aykh, zol vos gikher zikh mien un aroysbrengen a nayim Shulkhn Orukh (oder beser gezugt, a nayim "Medresh d'Rabbi Shimon be Yokhai" vos hayntike rifen "Sefer Hazoar") vegn di farshidene formlen un shprokhen vos a mentsh muz kenen ayder er oder zi zol derlebn to shikn a klayn brivele fun donent biz aher durekh e-mail. Mayn kop is shoyn mit lange yorn tsurik tsebrokhen gevorn iber azelkhe inyonim. Fun "zay" ken men gornisht devartn; zay hobn shoyn git bagruben aynglish (aza shayner shprakh amol gewen!). Zay zikhen nur fun ales a tell tsu makhen k'dai zay zoln kenen mit zayer brutalizirte shprakh praven di melikhe. A shteyger "data base"; a shteyger "word processor"; a shteyger "errorlevel". Bayt ikh aykh: libe brider un shvester: ROTEVET! Volt es nisht a shayne zakh gevayn ven--fun alle velt-shprakhen--zol ayn ayntsiger shprakh nisht nur oyfshtayn fun khurbn nur dertsu vern der ayntsiger vos nitzt mentshlikhe verter far mentshlikhe arbet? Ikh farloz zikh oyf aykh! [ Interesante ide'e, ober darfst onhoibn far uns, Noyekh. Tsum beishpiel? - DS] ------------------------ Digest-Message: 18/2 Subject: Hello Date: Mon, 15 Jan 90 14:34:24 EST From: jurafsky%bansai.Berkeley.EDU@Berkeley.EDU (Daniel S. Jurafsky) As for myself, I was born in Yonkers in 1962, but grew up in California, and have been in Berkeley the last 10 years. (I'm a PhD candidate in computer science here). As for speaking Yiddish, my rudimentary knowledge is mostly from night classes and practice with friends. My parents were born in New York and never really spoke it in the house. When I am able to coax them into speaking with me, my father speaks some Ukrainian Yiddish, (his parents are from Bobr, outside Kiev) while my mother is a Litvak (fon Minske guberniye). The night classes I have been taking are at the Lehrhaus Judaica at the local Hillel, with Len Talmy, a local linguist and Yiddishist at Cal. I am able to read the Yiddish in the last issue, but i will probably remain (another) passive reader for a while. Dan ("Shilem" af yiddish) Jurafsky ------------------------ END OF ISSUE #18 ------------------------ David (Daniel Moishe) Sherman, Toronto Moderator, mail.yiddish { uunet!attcan {AT&T Sites}!att pyramid!utai utzoo } !lsuc!dave dave@lsuc.on.ca attcan!lsuc!dave@uunet.uu.net