Subject: ftp.debian.org

From: Martin Konold <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:56:36 +0200

Dear Developers,

1.) Thank you for all the tremendous work you are putting into debian.
    Special thanks to the maintainers of the excellent packages.
2.) Now the bad side...

I do have constant trouble with the main ftp.debian.org site/distribution.
The most annoying fact is that files do permanently change in /debian/buzz.
I urge you NOT to change anything in this directory but please put the 
necessary BUG FIXES in /debian/buzz-fixes.
Please remember, if you are changing the buzz dir all the time the 
mirrors will never get in sync.
Nobody will be able to successfully support debian because you never know 
wich version the customers have installed.
I hate to have 20 different Debian1.1 releases.
If the Debian Projekt [TM] will keep on with this practise you will loose 
a lot of your supporters,

Yours,
-- martin

P.S.   sorry for my angry language.
P.P.S. ftp.debian.org still does have severe networking problems...

// Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany  // 
// Email: [email-masked]            // 
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From: Guy Maor <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:09:13 -0500 (CDT)

> The most annoying fact is that files do permanently change in /debian/buzz.

The only file that should have changed is the Packages file.  This is
due to maintainer changes; it doesn't matter if these changes don't
make it out to a CD.

We really do realize the importance of freezing buzz.  That's why we
have a buzz-updates directory.  I'm almost done with the scripts to
keep buzz-fixed up-to-date.  Then we will have Debian-1.1-x releases
which contain bug-fixes to buzz.  Read the READMEs for more info.

Guy

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From: Lars Wirzenius <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:06:15 +0300

[ NB: I read the list.  Don't CC replies to me.  I pay for my PPP.  Thanks ]

> The most annoying fact is that files do permanently change in /debian/buzz.

Hey, what has changed?  Eeek.

> a lot of your supporters,

I agree.

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From: Ian Jackson <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 13:54 BST

> due to maintainer changes; it doesn't matter if these changes don't

It's also possible that a package or two was moved from one directory
to another, to make it correspond to the Packages file, or that a
broken symlink or README or something was changed.

None of the contents of the packages have changed - the list of
packages for 1.1 has been frozen.

Ian.

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From: Scott Barker <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:52:54 -0600 (MDT)

> packages for 1.1 has been frozen.

Speaking of 1.1 being frozen, I notice that there's one broken symlink in
there -- msdos/x11/9menu... points to a non-existant package in
binary-i386/x11/

I can't imagine this symlink will affect many people, but nevertheless, it is
broken. Perhaps 1.1 could be "unfrozen" just long enough to fix that link...

-- 
Scott Barker
Linux Consultant
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From: Ian Jackson <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 17:25 BST

> broken. Perhaps 1.1 could be "unfrozen" just long enough to fix that link...

This turned out to be a bug in the script that makes the msdos
symlinks.  I've fixed the bug and the script has fixed the link.

Ian.