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Package: kbd
Version: 0.91-3

I wondered why the 'loadkeys' program didn't work as expected on m68k,
and then I found a little bug in src/getfd.c: It determines the keyboard
type via an ioctl (KDGKBTYPE) which returns a char on the kernel side, but 
is put into a 'long' variable. This just happens to work on i386, but breaks 
on m68k due to the endianess. Below is a patch.

Frank

Debian-1.1, libc5.2.18, kernel 2.0.8.

PS: Checking for just one explicit keyboard type (KB_101) is not good
either, but that will be fixed later.

--- cut here ---
*** src/getfd.c.orig    Thu Aug  1 00:30:13 MET DST 1996
--- src/getfd.c Thu Aug  1 00:30:23 MET DST 1996
***************
*** 14,20 ****
  
  static int
  is_a_console(int fd) {
!     long arg;
  
      arg = 0;
      return (ioctl(fd, KDGKBTYPE, &arg) == 0 && arg == KB_101);
--- 14,20 ----
  
  static int
  is_a_console(int fd) {
!     unsigned char arg;
  
      arg = 0;
      return (ioctl(fd, KDGKBTYPE, &arg) == 0 && arg == KB_101);


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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca  wrote on 27.07.96 in <m0uk0f7-00013lC@miles.econ.queensu.ca>:

> *Sigh* Why doesn't this discussion just _stop_?

Because we've not yet arrived at a solution?

> We have such a program. Bruce wrote and posted it to this list in March, and
> I reposted it about two months ago. All we have to is to decide to _use_
> rather than to endlessly go on about it. Here it is again:

Well, I certainly haven't seen it yet. I just searched my 100 days worth  
of Debian mails; it's not in there either.

> 	 "Usage:\tchkconfig [ -s ]\t\t\tPrint all configurations.\n"
> 	 "\tchkconfig [ -f ] name [ on | off ]\tSet value.\n"
> 	 "\n"
> 	 "\t-f:\t\tForce creation if value doesn't exist.\n"
> 	 "\n"
> 	 "\ton | off:\tValue. Default is \"off\".\n";

Oh. So it can't do anything besides boolean values.

That means it can't handle kbd configuration, for example.


MfG Kai


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I took the freedom to make gopher bug free. 

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Date: 01 Aug 96 10:03 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Ted Hajek <tedhajek@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Source: gopher
Version: 2.1.1-3
Binary:  gopher-client gopherd
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 gopher-client: Client software to access stuff on gopher servers.
 gopherd: Serves documents using the Internet Gopher+ Protocol.
Changes: 
        * Renamed function ustat in g_ustat to get gopherd compile with ELF
        libc
        * Corrected version number (Bugs #1718, #1851, #3965)
        * Added Architecture, Priority and Section field (Bug#3933)
        * Changed debian.rules file for new naming scheme
        * Removed 'RECOMMENDS: freeWAIS' line (Bug #1717)
        * Corrected extended description (Bug #3668, #3683)
        * Changed weekly cron script (Bug #3262)
        * Compress manpages
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ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)  wrote on 01.08.96 in <m0ulmQL-0004NpC@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>:

> We just had a flamewar about the location, which seemed to me to
> decide that we definitely wanted the location to be configurable -
> this means that the user needs not to be in the standard /etc/passwd,
> though it may still be allocated in advance.

Configurable is definitely the right solution here.

> Also, it seemed to me that the `urgh, /var is totally wrong for this'
> brigade were somewhat more numerous than the `urgh, /home is totally
> wrong for this' brigade (and the latter never did answer my
> substantive points about why /home is better), so the default should
> be /home/www or some such anyway.

As you say, just a moment.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I was a lot more interested in a  
solution than in winning points, and once there seemed to be a consensus,  
I definitely saw no reason to rebut any arguments, even if I didn't think  
much of them.

Part of the consensus, as I understood it, was that there's no good reason  
to change the current setup until it is changed for configurability.

Do we really need to go into that again?


MfG Kai


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Well, it's been a while, so lets add:
imap-client and imap-server 
to the virtual package names list.

On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
others as well).

Thanks,

Dwarf

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On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Should we move the copyright file (and the examples directory) into
> the per-package directory in /usr/doc ?

I don't think we should move the copyright file.  Most people don't
ever need to look at them, so it's simpler if they're out of the way.

We should discourage making a symlink from /usr/doc/<package> to the
copyright directory.  Maintainers are probably just using the copyright
more as a general readme.  The copyright file need only contain
(surprise) copyright information.

I do, however, think we should move the examples directory.  I've
always thought the distinction between /usr/doc/<package> and
/usr/doc/examples/<package> was arbitrary.  It usually leads to the
obtuse arrangement where the example is in one directory and its
accompanying documentation is another.


Guy


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> Christian Hudon writes ("Re: Bug#3795: ae should not be essential"):
> > Isn't it that some of the packages that look at EDITOR fall back to ae if
> > there are problems with EDITOR?

vipw and vigr do this.  They're in passwd which is essential, but won't
be as soon as I upload a new version.


Guy


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Jim Meyering responded:

> | This come to via debian mailing list and is about how to activate
> | color support for ls.  I think the default should be no color at
> | all but I doubt if so much aliases as in the message below are the
> | proper way to activate color support.  Can't this be done in a much
> | easier way, for example by checking if LS_COLOR has a value (then
> | color) or does not exist or is empty (then no color).
> 
> You're right.  It would be better not to alias at all
> when the eval sets LS_COLORS to the empty string. (but see below)
> So you (Dirk) could bracket his aliases with
> 
> if test -n "$LS_COLORS"; then
>   alias ...
> fi
> 
> | Dirk Eddelb"uttel writes:
> | > The old dircolors created the LS_COLORS env variable with your colour
> | > selection the default or specified rc file _and_ created the aliases.
> | >
> | > Now it only builds LS_COLORS so that I changed the code in
> | > /usr/local/etc/profile (which I source from /etc/profile) to
> | >
> | >     eval `dircolors -b /usr/local/etc/colour-ls.rc`
> | >     alias ls='ls --color=auto ';
> | >     alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical';
> | >     alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long';
> | >     alias d=dir;
> | >     alias v=vdir;
> | >     alias ols='/bin/ls '
> 
> Personally, I think it is bad to impose such common and short-named
> aliases on all users.  They will cause confusion in many users because
> they'll conflict with aliases/functions users had before they switched
> to debian.  That's why I removed the alias-setting `feature' of the
> slackware dircolors -- in addition, trying to accomodate 4-5 different
> shell syntaxes made the program unnecessarily (IMHO) complex.
> 
> | > Before, I only needed the "eval 'dircolors -b <resourcefile>`" line and the
> | > aliases were built automagically (the format was slightly different, though,
> | > there was also --8-bit or some such).
> | >
> | >   Mark> What is the problem?  I've changed a number of things of late - moved
> | >   Mark> from tcsh to bash (but same thing happens in both shells), and
> | >   Mark> upgraded a number of packages.  So I don't know what has caused the
> | >   Mark> change.  Any ideas anyone?
> | >
> | > Your upgrade to the newest fileutils package which replaced the now redundant
> | > color-ls package.
> | >
> | > Erick, is there a way that you can persuade/hack dircolors to do what the old
> | > one did? Or put a note in the package to ease transition?
> |
> | What about it Jim?
> 
> I'll put a note in the info documentation for dircolors on how to
> do those things.
 


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> It's nice to have all these files in the same directory, but people
> are starting to do things like having /usr/doc/foo/REAMDE be a link to
> /usr/doc/copyright/foo or vice versa, and splitting the documentation
> for a package up across several directories doesn't seem to work very
> well.

This symlinking is bad (IMHO).  The place of copyright stuff is documented
in Debian FAQ (or somewhere else or it should be documented) and is there
for quite some time now.  Keep it that way.
 
> Should we move the copyright file (and the examples directory) into
> the per-package directory in /usr/doc ?

No, the /usr/doc/<package> dir is a dir which normally comes with all
stuff in it gzipped and I think we should keep it like that.  We can not
gzip copyright files (this has been decided/mandated long ago) so I 
think it isn't good to put an ungezipped file in there.

Minor argument is that the current approach is space saving.  If no
documentation comes with package an dir entry needs to be created for
its copyright file, when this is in /usr/doc/copyright this will not
be required.
 
I still think that copyright file can/should be autogenerated by the
package building process and provide a default part and a free part.
Check mailing archives if you want to know more on this.

Erick

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> Ian.
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> Erick Branderhorst writes ("use of /usr/share"):
> > Perhaps this is a very sensitive subject but shouldn't architecture
> > independent things like man pages, info manuals, tex & latex styles
> > and a lot of other things being put under a subdir of /usr/share?
> 
> The FSSTND people haven't really settled on this yet, and are now
> diverted.

On our network here, we've had great fun with all this.  Basically,
there
are four needs:

- System installed files (i.e. debian packages)
- Machine-local installed files
- Network mounted arch-dependant files
- Network mounted arch-independant files

yet there are only three locations

- / and /usr
- /usr/local
- /usr/share

Our general solution was to create a fourth and allocate them as
follows:

- / and /usr : System installed files
- /usr/local : Machine-local installed files
- /usr/site  : Network mounted arch-dependant files
- /usr/share : Network mounted arch-independant files

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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Mr Stuart Lamble writes:
> As of (at the latest) 2.0.0, /usr/include/scsi should be a symbolic link
> to /usr/src/linux/include/scsi. Given that libc5 includes the kernel

I'll hopefully get time to fix this next week.

David
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Thanks for forwarding this note by Jim Meyerding. I like his ignoring of
/etc/DIR_COLORS, I always found that filename rather ugly and kept my own
file /usr/local/etc/colour-ls.rc for these colour settings.

IMHO, two things remain:

	- the fileutils maintainer should patch dircolors so that it gives 
	  bright red for .deb files as for .tar and .tgz files.
	  Debian's color-ls did that too

	- ask Jim why dircolors doesn't generate the aliases as the
          Slackware version did. Should we patch it to remain backwards 
	  compatible?

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>Could you provide a reference to these benchmarks, and the compiler settings
>they used? Or better yet, even run them?  I don't really use fortran myself,
>but link some of my C++ code with Fortran libraries that other folks have
>done. But I could do with a speedup of factor 2 ...

see the following web-site
http://nils.wustl.edu/schiotz/lapack-linux.html

(this is a partial quote)
PERFORMANCE:

I have compared the speed of the level 3 BLAS routines, using a benchmark program I found on
Netlib. I ran it using Dave Webers f2c+gcc compiled library, and also using g77 compiled static and
dynamic libraries. Here are the results, obtained on a 75MHz Pentium PC from Gateway2000. 

                           ------- Speed in Megaflops -------
Routine                 f2c+gcc         g77             g77
                        (shared)        (shared)        (static)
=================================================================
DSYMM                   2.9             5.3             5.6
DSYRK                   2.7             5.5             5.6
DSYR2K                  3.2             6.0             6.0
DTRMM                   2.6             4.6             5.1
DTRSM                   2.4             4.1             4.5
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Average                 2.76            5.10            5.36
-----------------------------------------------------------------
rel. to f2c+gcc         100%            185%            194%
rel. to g77(sh)         54%             100%            105%
rel. to g77(st)         51%             95%             100%
=================================================================
So I see almost a factor two increase in performance! I also see the expected 5% penalty of the
shared libraries, coming from losing one register. 




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Ian Jackson wrote:
> 
> We only have room for one `extra' scripting language, besides the
> usual sh, awk, sed, &c, on the base disks.
> 
> Perl is widely known.  It can solve most problems.  There are problems
> for which it is difficult to get it to work, but these don't often
> occur at installation time.
> 
> sh is not suitable for many of the things Perl gets used for -
> consider update-inetd, update-info &c.

Actually, a /bin/sh script to add inetd.conf entries, and another to
remove entries keyed off the service field, was unmentionably simple to
code, and has proved quite reliable in (lots of) practice.

> For this reason we decided that Perl would be on our base disks, and
> that packages could use it (well, the subset that's on the base disks)
> in their preinst/postrm.  Packages which want something else must
> Depend on it and may only use it in their postinst/prerm.

There's clearly a place for a stronger scripting language, despite the
argument posed above.  It's just very sad that it should be perl.  perl
really fits into many people's stereotypes of "unix as inherently
cryptic monster", very neatly.

> There is no point having a religious war over this; this decision was
> taken a long time ago and can't be changed now, even if we wanted to.

This is rhetoric.  It could be changed and you know it.  What I mean to
say is, I really dislike "can't" when what's meant is "won't".

I daresay that a linux distribution (or the Hurd, or *BSD, or...) that
doesn't fall into the perl trap, should have a brighter future.

> Ian.


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ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)  wrote on 01.08.96 in <m0ulmhr-0004NpC@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>:

Mostly fine, except people are bound to see a conflict between these two  
paragraphs:

> Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) do
> not allow redistribution of modified source code or our own compiled
> binaries cannot be placed on the Debian FTP site and its mirrors at
> all.

This seems to say that binary-only is flat out ...

> Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) allow
> only distribution of compiled binaries (and thus of which only
> binaries are available), or where the source code which may be
> distributed is not the complete source code required to compile the
> program (ie, the program cannot be compiled using only packages in the
> main Debian distribution), or which depend for their use on non-free
> or contrib packages, or allow free use only for a trial period
> (shareware), or are demonstration programs lacking vital functionality
> (crippleware), or are only installer-packages which require the user
> to supply a separate file to be installed, or which fail to meet some
> other policy requirements, may only be placed in the semi-supported
> contrib section of the Debian FTP archives (unless they need to be in
> non-free - see above).

... and this seems to say that binary-only is fine for contrib.

I think the latter is what you really mean (and what we want), so the  
first one could possibly use some clearer language.

Hmm. How about this?

Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) do not  
allow redistribution, or do not allow redistribution after changing the  
package (if it needs to be changed in some way for Debian), cannot be  
placed on the Debian FTP site and its mirrors at all.

Would that capture what you meant?

MfG Kai


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> I know we have WWW access to our mailing lists one. But as far as I know, it
> is only updated monthly.

That is incorrect.

> Would someone step forward to take care of that on a
> daily basis?

It will be... once I've rewritten my scripts (due to my thesis deadline,
this will probably in September).

Here's the setup as it was before master's disk-crash:
- Mail from all mailing lists was sent to jdassen@debian.org
- My .qmail on master invokes procmail
- Procmail splits out the lists in per month (or, for -announce, per year)
  unix mbox-format archives in the master FTP structure directly.
- On www.debian.org, which has access to a FTP mirror, a daily cronjob 
  generates the WWW archives from the FTP ones. The same cronjob 
  updates the WWW search engine (currently glimpseHTTP).

Ray
-- 
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Subject: Re: XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)
To: lamble@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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> Speaking of X, as a member of the beta team (XFree86), I have access to
> the source code for the XF86 betas. Would it be worthwhile setting up
> packages for these in the contrib section? In particular, I'm kind of
> annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
> to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
> have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
> (dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
> the SVGA server.

Well you can leave the SVGA-server installed and simply add your server
somewhere and let /etc/X11/server (or what is its name) have the right
path to your server.  No dpkg barfing for me.

Erick


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From: andrew@it.com.au (Andrew Howell)
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To: karl@tower.net.au (Karl Ferguson)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:03:15 +0800 (WST)
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Karl Ferguson writes:
> 
> Hi Everyone...
> 
> I've compiled SLIP into the kernel (2.0.10), however I get this following
> message in /var/log/daemon.log:
> 
> Aug  1 10:30:49 orion /sliplogin[319]: attaching slip unit sl0 for karl
> Aug  1 10:30:49 orion /sliplogin[319]: /etc/slip.login sl0 9600 319
> 203.22.233.3 203.15.138.211 compressed
> Aug  1 10:30:50 orion modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-4
> Aug  1 10:20:51 orion modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-5
> 
> Of course, slip just doesn't seem to work at all.  My question is, where are
> these modules it can't locate - and if I can find them, will it fix this
> problem?
> 
> Any help appreciated.

You can edit /etc/mod.conf (from memory) to get rid of those modprobe
warnings, but it shouldn't actually affect SLIP working, They are just
an alias for particular network procotols I think. I've had those
warnings for many kernels and SLIP still works for me (just couldn't
be bothered fixing the file, was waiting for some debian thing to do
it for me :))

Andrew

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Andrew Howell				      howellaa@cs.curtin.edu.au
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In message <199608010735.RAA21419@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>, Mr Stuart Lamble writes:
>annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
>to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
>have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
>(dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
>the SVGA server.

Not at all.  Install the svga server using dselect.  Put it on hold.
Get the 3.1.2E server binary, install it, adjust /etc/X11/config.

I'm doing just this to run the current Mach64 card, since my RAMDAC
isn't supported by the non-beta 3.1.2.  No problems at all.

Mike.
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Right, I know that lapack-linux website too. Note gcc-2.7.0 and g77-0.5.17
were used, more recent ones are available. g77 got better with 0.5.18, but
also slower (according to some very casual measurements I did on one piece of
code). Also, Jacob Schiotz doesn't say anything about compiler versions.

It would be good if someone had some time to redo these and some others
benchmarks.

-- 
Dirk Eddelb"uttel                             http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd


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On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote:
> 
> > Ever heard of this "standard" for unix-package-management? How should we
> > deal with this?
> > 
> How does one get a copy?

I can not help you - to get this you have to be a groupmember or you must
pay for it. I am curious who in the debian-community had the chance to
read this. (So by now you know I had no chance to read it)

To point you how to obtain the draft - here are some links:

http://stdsbbs.ieee.org/products/NumStat/NumStat11.html
http://stdsbbs.ieee.org/products/press/catalog/it.html
price: $72.00, 320 Pages ISBN 1-55937-537-X

and as I found out there is also a correlated document bei X/Open 
extending P1387.2:

http://xoweb.xopen.co.uk/public/pubs/catalog/p429.htm
price: $70, 429 Pages ISBN 1-85912-121-7

I think some sponsors are needed !!!


Michael Gaertner <gaertnem@ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
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I think it would be better to change the name of the Mercury Compiler to
something like "mercc".

The reasons are:

	1) Minimal disturbance to current debian users. They now use mc to
launch Midnight Comander.

	2) Seniority (?). Midnight Commander took the name first (within
Debian, I don't know which program is older).

	3) Compatibility with other Linux distributions. They usually
include the Midnight Commander (and they call it "mc").

	4) Popularity. Midnight Commander is more popular among Linux
users than Mercury Compiler. More people in this community use "mc" to
mean the former.

	5) Personal preference :-) (This point is questionable, I know).


Cheers,
	Fernando.



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Answer from Jim Meyering (GNU fileutils mainstream maintainer):

> | I copied this to Jim Meyering hoping that he might be able to answer
> | your question Michael.
> |
> | Michael Meskes writes:
> | > Erick Branderhorst writes:
> | > > This file is in the origianl fileutils source name: dircolors.hin
> | > > but is not installed as you might have noticed.
> | >
> | > What's the reason for this behaviour?
> 
> I changed dircolors (to be different from the original slackware version)
> so that it doesn't read any fixed-filename config file.  So it no longer
> reads /etc/DIRCOLORS or $HOME/.whatever-that-name-was.
> 
> I made that change to maintain some measure of orthogonality.  Otherwise,
> dircolors would have been the sole program to do such a thing in all of
> the fileutils/textutils/sh-utils.
> 
> As you probably noticed, I added the --print-data-base option to print
> the default, compiled-in database.  So now, the config file must be
> specified when dircolors is run.
> 
>   % dircolors --help
>   Usage: dircolors [OPTION]... [FILE]
>   Output commands to set the LS_COLOR environment variable.
> 
>   Determine format of output:
>     -b, --sh, --bourne-shell    output Bourne shell code to set LS_COLOR
>     -c, --csh, --c-shell        output C shell code to set LS_COLOR
>     -p, --print-data-base       output defaults
> 	--help                  display this help and exit
> 	--version               output version information and exit

Erick


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Mr Stuart Lamble writes:
> Ok. There is a library available, libelf (currently version 0.5.2),
> which is required by a program I was idly toying about with (Eli).
> I'm contemplating packaging up Eli, which would imply packaging up
> libelf as well. 

Go ahead and package libelf.  It's been on my todo list for a long
time, but with my current backlog, I'll probably never get to it.

> However, libelf comes with a couple of #include files
> - libelf.h and nlist.h (I think) - which are also included in libc-dev;
> in the case of libelf.h, this isn't a problem (the two are identical in
> content), but nlist.h has a couple of things in it that (IIRC) are
> #if 0'd out.
> 
> What would be the procedure for saying to dpkg, "These files will
> conflict with those in another package, but it's ok to overwrite them"?
> Or would I have to use a preinst/postrm script to rename them? Shift
> their location? Something else I haven't thought of?

"Replaces:" is the proper dpkg mechanism for doing this, but please
don't use it.  Linc5 does not appear to need either nlist.h or
libelf.h.  Hopefully, H.J. Lu can confirm this.  If this is the case,
then the headers should probably be removed from libc.

David
-- 
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In article <86k9vk2l46.fsf@argus.csres.utexas.edu> Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> writes:

> Leland Olds <olds@eskimo.com> writes:
> 
> > (Do we have anything the links to motif?)

mosaic (NCSA Mosaic) does.

I only provided a statically linked version yet. When I package a
released version of Mosaic I should create both versions.

	Sven
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> Not completely alone---I'd prefer prompting about /usr/local.  Why?
> Because /usr/local on all our machines here (not just debian) is an
> nfs-mounted directory, and typically mounted readonly or root-squash
> so that I know nothing on the client machines is going to be able to
> diddle with it.
> 
> Prompting about /usr/local is one of the little things packages could
> do that make life easier on those of us that try to maintain large
> numbers of debian machines.

Should this be solved by moving all /usr/local dir structure to the postinst
prerm scripts and be created there after prompting the installer?

Erick


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llucius wrote:
> Actually, I've not gotten to "The Next Step" yet anyway.  I finally bit 
> the bullet and downloaded XFree86 (whew!), compiled it, and am now going 
> through all the X related packages.

Speaking of X, as a member of the beta team (XFree86), I have access to
the source code for the XF86 betas. Would it be worthwhile setting up
packages for these in the contrib section? In particular, I'm kind of
annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
(dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
the SVGA server.

Before you ask - no, I am _not_ going to provide the source code to
the betas to the world in general. Nor diffs. (I'm just trying to get
16/24bpp modes going on the cards - and getting nowhere fast, it seems.
Oh well, maybe by Feb next year...)

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Dan Stromberg wrote:
> > For this reason we decided that Perl would be on our base disks, and
> > that packages could use it (well, the subset that's on the base disks)
> > in their preinst/postrm.  Packages which want something else must
> > Depend on it and may only use it in their postinst/prerm.
> 
> There's clearly a place for a stronger scripting language, despite the
> argument posed above.  It's just very sad that it should be perl.  perl
> really fits into many people's stereotypes of "unix as inherently
> cryptic monster", very neatly.

I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been
invented.

(that's sarcasm, by the way)


> > There is no point having a religious war over this; this decision was
> > taken a long time ago and can't be changed now, even if we wanted to.
> 
> This is rhetoric.  It could be changed and you know it.  What I mean to
> say is, I really dislike "can't" when what's meant is "won't".

Of course it can be changed.  Anything can be changed!  What he was saying,
and this is obvious to anyone not specifically trying to play with words,
was that it was NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE to change even if we wanted to.


> I daresay that a linux distribution (or the Hurd, or *BSD, or...) that
> doesn't fall into the perl trap, should have a brighter future.

Oh, give it up!  Perl is a fine language.  Its powerful and is quite easy
to write nice clean code with.  It's just not _enforced_ that you write
nice clean code.  It's also very easy to garbage code, but that isn't
enforced, either.

As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
at MS-Dos!)

                                        Brian
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> Well, it's been a while, so lets add:
> imap-client and imap-server 
> to the virtual package names list.

Sure thing.  I'm not familiar with imap though, so could you give me a
description for these to go in the list?

> On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
> in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
> others as well).

What would it be used for?  Are there packages that depend on having an
editor, or for which it would be appropriate to recommend one (and have any
old editor serve the purpose)?  If so, no problem...

				Warwick

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> that require munging large numbers of files in complex regexpish ways.
> I've found that if you use "-w", "use strict", and "use English", perl
> makes/allows you to write pretty reasonable code.  Certainly code that
> is far better (and usually faster) than sh.

If "-w", "use strict" and "use English" makes perl code more reasonable 
why don't we require that in the guidelines right now and put some effort
in a perl2guile translator (everybody will benefit).

Erick


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Dan Stromberg <strombrg@hydra.acs.uci.edu> writes:

> One way to do that, is to hang onto /bin/sh until something like guile
> is ready.

> Another way to do that, is to move beyond perl to something like python
> or ML (metalanguage) - right now.  It wouldn't take much at all.

Guile (or something like it) could be very good.  I use RScheme
(somewhat similar) pretty often now, but I still use perl for jobs
that require munging large numbers of files in complex regexpish ways.
I've found that if you use "-w", "use strict", and "use English", perl
makes/allows you to write pretty reasonable code.  Certainly code that
is far better (and usually faster) than sh.

I did look in to python at one point.  I actually read essentially the
entire manual (it's long).  In general I was fairly impressed, but
there were several things that (IMO) just weren't right that prevented
me from being willing/able to use it.  One of those was indention for
syntax.  In my *opinion* this is just wrong.  I did have a practical
reason, though.  It makes it quite hard to automatically generate code
in an indentation based language because you can't, for example, just
spit out the code for a loop, you have to know how deep that loop is
in the rest of the program to get the indentation right.  This is not
a problem in programs using braces or parens or whatever.  It's not
impossible to overcome the problem, just more difficult than
necessary.  There are other reasons I don't like indentation as
syntax, but that was the clincher.

If you really want to know the other reasons I didn't like python
(assuming there were any, I can't remember since I made that decision
a long time ago), I'll get the manual and try to recall; I don't think
it's really fair to say "I hated that, it was bad" without being
willing to back it up.

So I use perl now, but if Guile gets to where it can do the same kind
of text processing better, or nearly as well, with better syntax, I'll
be happy to switch.

(This thread is in great danger of turning in to another language holy
war.  I'm really not trying to add any fuel.  I hope I didn't.)

--
Rob


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bcwhite@verisim.com (Brian C. White)  wrote on 01.08.96 in <32013F18.1E7283F3@verisim.com>:

> Dan Stromberg wrote:
> > > For this reason we decided that Perl would be on our base disks, and
> > > that packages could use it (well, the subset that's on the base disks)
> > > in their preinst/postrm.  Packages which want something else must
> > > Depend on it and may only use it in their postinst/prerm.
> >
> > There's clearly a place for a stronger scripting language, despite the
> > argument posed above.  It's just very sad that it should be perl.  perl
> > really fits into many people's stereotypes of "unix as inherently
> > cryptic monster", very neatly.
>
> I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been
> invented.
>
> (that's sarcasm, by the way)

And it's misplaced.

As to assembler, there are lots of _very_ different styles of writing it;  
there is no one "Assembler" language. It's quite impossible to say  
anything general about it.

As to C, while the language does miss some very crucial features and does  
make it relatively easy to write cryptic programs, the language itself is  
quite clean and orthogonal. Parsing C code, for example, does not have any  
of the quirks that parsing, say, FORTRAN or -surprise!- Perl has.

As to Perl, it has some very ugly parts in its syntax, and its semantic  
isn't too fine either - lots and lots of global variable dependencies.  
There can be no doubt that Perl is very _effective_ - but it has a very,  
very long way to go before it can be a nice language. I still have trouble  
figuring out how to write _readable_ programs in Perl.

And, incidentally, as to bourne shell syntax - well, let's give it the  
benefit of doubt and use POSIX.2 or bash - well, its main problem, and  
that is a very serious problem, has always been quoting. This makes for  
very cryptic code, and it also makes some problems nearly impossible to  
solve - I had a case where input might contain all sorts of cryptic chars  
that I *never* got right. Also, shell libraries (other executables, that  
is) have a _very_ slow interface.

> Oh, give it up!  Perl is a fine language.  Its powerful and is quite easy
> to write nice clean code with.  It's just not _enforced_ that you write
> nice clean code.  It's also very easy to garbage code, but that isn't
> enforced, either.

Sorry, but I disagree very much. Perl is an powerful and effective  
language. It is neither fine nor even clean; it is _very_ ugly. And while  
some variants of code are indeed easy to write in a clean way, lots of  
others aren't. You can't get rid of dependencies on $_, for example. In  
that aspect it's a lot more like assembler than like any high-level  
language.

> As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
> little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
> useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
> to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
> at MS-Dos!)

It doesn't depend on the "easy" factor, either. Look at MS-DOS, indeed -  
for a very long time, all the utilities were completely written in  
assembler. (Somehow, this didn't make them small and fast.)

Like anything else, success of languages is mainly an advertizing thing.  
And there can be no doubt that Perl has won that one. (So has C++, which  
shouldn't have either, based on any technical merits.)

*However*, after all that is said, I still think we should stick with Perl  
as first choice for a language that's better than shell - either that, or  
C, and string manipulation is awfully hard in C.

It's not because I like it. It's because very many people know how to use  
it.

MfG Kai


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> > I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> > advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been
> > invented.
> 
> And how much further would the industry be, if C had been typesafe (or
> if some other, typesafe language had been used)?  The expertise in
> language design existed at the time, but C didn't have it.

There were typesafe languages in the time of C:  Pascal, Modula, etc.

Where did they go?  They didn't go anywhere because they aren't useful
in real applications.  Have you ever tried to write a dynamic skip-list
in pascal?


> And yet, C was adopted as a major standard - because the people who knew
> better, didn't bother to speak up.

No.  It became a major standard because it does the job.  C++ is the same
way, and so is Perl.  They're not the prettiest, but they do the job in
an easy and efficient way.


> That's not to say that a lot hasn't been accomplished in C - obviously.
> But we could have done a lot more, if such a simple thing hadn't been
> put off until ANSI.  Also, the code I maintained on my first job,
> probably would've been a LOT cleaner - many of you are probably in the
> same boat.  I really hated roaming around fixing somebody else's stray
> pointer references.

True, but it's more likely that much of the existing code would not have
been written at all or would not be as functional.  Maintaing poorly
structured code is hard, but not as hard as maintaining code that was
kludged to get around limitations in the language.


> > As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
> > little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
> > useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
> > to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
> > at MS-Dos!)
> 
> Yes, yes, yes, and No, no, no.
> 
> A language's success is typically 95% who backs it, and 5% how good it
> is.  With the masses, that is.

I disagree here, and MS-Dos is a great example.  It's not who backs it,
but what.  Dos was backed by tonnes of software.  That's why it's still
here.  Dos does the job; or did until fairly recently.


> However, for a group that knows what it's doing, it should be 5% who
> backs it, and 95% how good it is.  So it -should- be for debian.  The
> debian project is in a more than adequate position, to set a
> more-positive direction for the unix industry.

Yes!  Now define "good".  Good is how useful it is, not how how nicely
it's designed.  Perl _is_ useful.  Sure, there are other things, even
better things, in many ways.  But perl is a standard and following a
standard is also "good" in many ways.  I provides for a lot, even if it
lacks in others.

Don't get me wrong here, I abhor doing things because "that's the way
they've always been done"!  Right now, the pros of perl (good user base,
almost standard on all unicies, powerful) outweighs the pros of a
better language that fewer people know and isn't as common.  The cost
of changing must also be weighed and affects the decision even if it
alone is not sufficient reason.


> One way to do that, is to hang onto /bin/sh until something like guile
> is ready.

Guile is a neat idea, I'll admit.  It's almost like a high-level I-code
interpreter, except the I-code is scheme.  Done correctly, it could make
for a fairly painless conversion and still allow people to write in the
language of their choice, changing to better ones at their own pace.  It's
a while out, though.

Still, "good, now" is better than "perfect, later".


> Another way to do that, is to move beyond perl to something like python
> or ML (metalanguage) - right now.  It wouldn't take much at all.

But what is the cost of that move?  How many people have to be retrained?
What are the advantages?  Do the advantages outweigh the costs?


> Once the inertia's there, it's hard to change it.  In fact, many people
> will become angry with you if you do.  But it's often very worthwhile to
> take a step back, and look at the long-term ramifications of a decision.

People, in general, hate change.  I personally have nothing against
changing the supported base language if I thought it would gain something
significant.  Convince me of that and I'll argue your side without
hesitation.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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> Mr Stuart Lamble writes:
> >annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
> >to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
> >have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
> >(dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
> >the SVGA server.
> 
> Not at all.  Install the svga server using dselect.  Put it on hold.
> Get the 3.1.2E server binary, install it, adjust /etc/X11/config.
> 
> I'm doing just this to run the current Mach64 card, since my RAMDAC
> isn't supported by the non-beta 3.1.2.  No problems at all.

Strictly speaking, if you install the 3.1.2E server, you're supposed to
install the 3.1.2D libs as well - 3.1.2D was a complete replacement for
3.1.2, and 3.1.2E is supposed to be a drop-in server replacement for the
3.1.2D server when it expired.

That's what I'm carping on about. :-)

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Brian C. White wrote:
> Dan Stromberg wrote:
> > There's clearly a place for a stronger scripting language, despite the
> > argument posed above.  It's just very sad that it should be perl.  perl
> > really fits into many people's stereotypes of "unix as inherently
> > cryptic monster", very neatly.
> 
> I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been
> invented.
> 
> (that's sarcasm, by the way)

And how much further would the industry be, if C had been typesafe (or
if some other, typesafe language had been used)?  The expertise in
language design existed at the time, but C didn't have it.

And yet, C was adopted as a major standard - because the people who knew
better, didn't bother to speak up.

That's not to say that a lot hasn't been accomplished in C - obviously.
But we could have done a lot more, if such a simple thing hadn't been
put off until ANSI.  Also, the code I maintained on my first job,
probably would've been a LOT cleaner - many of you are probably in the
same boat.  I really hated roaming around fixing somebody else's stray
pointer references.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I recall either K or R, saying that lint should
have been just another pass of cc, instead of a separate program.
That's a very small design-decision, but it's had a _H_U_G_E impact, for
more people than a wanna think about.  The choice of a languages is a
rather larger decision.

> > > There is no point having a religious war over this; this decision was
> > > taken a long time ago and can't be changed now, even if we wanted to.
> >
> > This is rhetoric.  It could be changed and you know it.  What I mean to
> > say is, I really dislike "can't" when what's meant is "won't".


> > I daresay that a linux distribution (or the Hurd, or *BSD, or...) that
> > doesn't fall into the perl trap, should have a brighter future.
> 
> Oh, give it up!  Perl is a fine language.  Its powerful and is quite easy
> to write nice clean code with.  It's just not _enforced_ that you write

assembler is powerful, and quite easy to write nice clean code with.  It
was hot stuff at its inception.

sendmail is powerful, and quite easy to write nice clean header munging
and mail routing with.  It was hot stuff at its inception.

perl is powerful, and quite easy to write nice clean small-scale scripts
with.  It was pretty old-news, at its inception.

> nice clean code.  It's also very easy to garbage code, but that isn't
> enforced, either.
> 
> As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
> little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
> useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
> to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
> at MS-Dos!)

Yes, yes, yes, and No, no, no.

A language's success is typically 95% who backs it, and 5% how good it
is.  With the masses, that is.

However, for a group that knows what it's doing, it should be 5% who
backs it, and 95% how good it is.  So it -should- be for debian.  The
debian project is in a more than adequate position, to set a
more-positive direction for the unix industry.

One way to do that, is to hang onto /bin/sh until something like guile
is ready.

Another way to do that, is to move beyond perl to something like python
or ML (metalanguage) - right now.  It wouldn't take much at all.

Once the inertia's there, it's hard to change it.  In fact, many people
will become angry with you if you do.  But it's often very worthwhile to
take a step back, and look at the long-term ramifications of a decision.


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Package: xemacs, xemacs-support, xemacs-widget
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1) xemacs overwrites files from package emacs without having a 'replaces'
line.

2) xemacs is not configured because it depends on xemacs-support which
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Package: kernel
Version: 2.0.6

I recently updated from debian 1.1 - kernel version 2.0.0 - to 1.1.3
by installing the new package in base/kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb
(plus the updated dpkg and kbd).

Rebooting the machine showed that all was working apart from the nfs
module failing to load with lots of undefined symbol errors.

Rebuilding the nfs module from base/kernel-source-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb
and replacing the existing one in /lib/modules.... fixed the problem.

Andy.

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Package: base
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The installation of this package wipes out the file /var/run/utmp and
creates /var/run/wtmp which really should be in /var/log.
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Package: emacs
Version: 19.31-2

I load hilit19.el in my .emacs but when not under X this error occurs.

Loading hilit19...
Error in init file: error: "X windows are not in use or not initialized"

Erick


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Package: procps
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This isn't really a problem as utmp usually should not be empty
but still w should not segfault.  The reason I stepped on this
is because the base package wipes out the utmp file.


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On a kernel without module support:

$ procinfo
can't open file /proc/modules: No such file or directory
-- 
Shields, CrossLink.


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Ian Jackson writes:
> David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
> > This would force an exact version match between cpp and gcc and I
> > would very much like to avoid those situations.  Yes, I know this is
> > already done with shared library run-time and development packages.
> > Unless you can come up with a better suggestion, I can have cpp and
> > gcc conflict AND replace each other.
> 
> Hmm.  Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is
> available, or for it to have exactly the right one ?

Would you want the front-end driver (gcc) to use different versions of
cpp and cc1/cc1plus?

David
-- 
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david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081


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There should be a link or note in /usr/doc/perl about
/usr/doc/examples/perl.


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Package: Octave
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After installing octave it won't run and giving a message like:
can't find /lib/libg++ (I don't remember exactly).
After installing libg++27 elf version (version 2.7.1-2), everything worked 
fine. Octave had no dependancies on libg++ in dselect, so this may be the 
reason.

I am using Debian 1.1, kernel version 2.0.0 #8 and libc.so.5.2.18

succes with fixing


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A couple of days ago, Lars mentioned
> I suggest staying with rwxrwxrwt.
with respect to the permissions for /var/spool/mail.

Mine is:
drwxrwsr-t   2 mail     mail         1024 Jul 31 13:08 /var/spool/mail/

I couldn't find the debian package that installed this directory, so 
I couldn't figure out if these permissions were "right", whatever that 
means.  So,

a) can someone tell me what package/file/script does install /var/spool/mail?
   (I'd use this info to find out why my search method failed.)

b) Are those permissions "right"?

c) Lars, what did you mean by saying "staying with rwxrwxrwt"?

Regards,
Susan Kleinmann
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Package: dchanges
Version: 3.4

If dchanges finds an old style file name, it gives the following messages:


Deb file ok: libelf-dev_0.5.2-1_i386.deb
Deb file ok: libelf_0.5.2-1_i386.deb
WARNING: old style file name: libelf-0.5.2-1.tar.gz
          should be: libelf_0.5.2-1.deb
WARNING: old style file name: libelf-0.5.2-1.diff.gz
          should be: libelf_0.5.2-1.diff.gz
File ok: libelf_0.5.2-1.changes
2 warning(s) - hit return to continue


The problem with .tar.gz can be fixed by applying the following (trivial :)
diff.

--- dchanges.old	Wed Jul 31 20:56:47 1996
+++ dchanges	Wed Jul 31 20:57:36 1996
@@ -477,7 +477,7 @@
       if [ "$TAR_FN" = "${SOURCE}-${VERSION}.tar.gz" ]
       then
 	stderr  "WARNING: old style file name: ${TAR_FN}"
-	warning "          should be: ${SOURCE}_${VERSION}.deb"
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It should refer to adjtimex(2), I believe.


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OS: Debian Linux 1.1, 17.JUN.96


1. The Linux keyboard maps, /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/*,
include only one "dvorak" map file.
There are actually 3 dvorak keyboard layouts:
both handed, left handed, right handed.
Please have Linux include map files for all 3 layouts.

2. It would be nice to be able to conveniently have each
terminal/user specify its' chosen keyboard map,
in .bash_profile maybe, rather than just enforcing
one choice at a time on all users as is now the case.

3. It would also be nice to have a convenient command or
magic key sequence for each terminal/user
to toggle or rotate among the maps
or a chosen subset of them at will.
A simple graphic interface/selector comes to mind.

The following 2 file listings were downloaded from the Internet.
I used YaHoo! to search for "dvorak". That's how I found the first
file/home page. It includes some http references.

The second listing is a file from GA0650.EXE that I
expanded after downloading it from links I found searching the first one.
It includes keyboard layout graphics for all 3 layouts.

===============================================================================

                          Dvorak International's FAQ
                                       
  Table of Contents:
  
   [1]What is the Dvorak layout?
   [2]A short history of the Dvorak layout [3]Advantages of the Dvorak
   layout [4]Left and right hand layouts [5]How do I convert my keyboard
   to Dvorak? [6]Where can I get stickers for my keyboard? [7]What typing
   programs are available for learning Dvorak? [8]I already touch type in
   QWERTY. How long will it take to learn Dvorak? [9]Does using the
   Dvorak layout prevent Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? [10]About Dvorak
   International [11]Where can I get more information? [12]I want to give
   you all of my money. Where do I send it?
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  What is the Dvorak layout?
  
   The Dvorak layout is a different way to arrange the letters on a
   computer keyboard. Different, and MUCH better! With the Dvorak layout,
   ALL of the vowels are on the home row, on the left side. Five of the
   most used consonants are on the home row on the right hand side. (The
   home row of Dvorak is A O E U I D H T N S) The Dvorak layout
   encourages three things:
   
   1) Typing on the home row. 70% of all letters typed are on the home
   row of the Dvorak layout. This compares to 31% for QWERTY.
   
   2) A right-hand / left-hand / right-hand typing pattern. There are
   only a few words that require one-hand typing with the Dvorak layout.
   ("Papaya" is the longest.) There are thousands of words in QWERTY that
   require one-hand typing. (Try a few of these: devastated, exacerbate,
   exaggerated, desegregated, stargazers, stewardess, streetcars,
   sweetbread, aftertaste, reverberated, uphill, killjoy, million,
   minimum, opinion, pumpkin, lollipop, monopoly...)
   
   3) Typing with a strumming motion. The letters are arranged so that a
   strumming pattern, similar to the way a person would strum their
   fingers on a table, is encouraged. This provides more comfort to the
   hands. It is an often overlooked advantage of Dvorak.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  A short history of the Dvorak layout
  
   The standard layout of letters on the computer keyboard is called
   QWERTY, for the first six letters on the third row. (Hey, it's easier
   to pronounce than "ASDFGH" or "ZXCVBN"!)
   
   When the first typewriters were being invented, the letters were
   arranged in alphabetical order. The hammers on these typewriters would
   often jam, which was no fun for the user. So Christopher Sholes, the
   inventor of the typewriter, set out to "help" typists by creating a
   layout that would reduce jamming. The end result was a keyboard layout
   that made typing as difficult as possible. This slowed down the
   typist, which achieved the desired result of reducing typewriter jams.
   Since then, QWERTY has become the entrenched standard, questioned by
   few.
   
   In the 1930's August Dvorak and William Dealey studied the English
   language and typing behavior. They created a new layout for the
   typewriter which they called the Simplified Keyboard. This is now
   better known as the Dvorak layout (sorry, Bill). Rather than make
   typing as difficult as possible, the Dvorak layout makes typing as
   easy as possible. The difference is impressive.
   
   Trivia: A remnant of the original alphabetical order of the keys can
   be seen on the home row of QWERTY. Note the keys D F G H J K L.
   
   Historical footnote: Sholes himself strove to improve the keyboard
   layout, as early as 1889! (Remember, the QWERTY layout was needed only
   for the earliest, really clunky typewriters.) Sholes put all the
   vowels on the home row, but his layout was crude, and created before
   the advent of touch typing. While it would have been far better than
   QWERTY, it was not nearly as good as what Dvorak and Dealey would
   later create. It didn't matter anyway. QWERTY had been around for all
   of 16 years, and was already too entrenched to move. 125 years later,
   QWERTY still dominates like a drunken giant.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  Advantages of the Dvorak layout
  
   A number of studies have been done that compare Dvorak to QWERTY. It
   doesn't take a psychic to predict that the Dvorak layout always comes
   out on top. The question isn't "Is Dvorak better?" but "How much
   better is Dvorak?"
   
   The Winter 1993 issue of Delta Pi Epsilon carried a study done by Dr.
   Scot Ober called "Relative Efficiencies of the Standard and Dvorak
   Simplified Keyboards". The study was extensive, and here are some of
   his conclusions:
   
   In QWERTY, 31% of typing is done on the home row. In Dvorak, 70%. In
   addition, The Dvorak layout has 35% more right-hand reaches, 63% more
   same-row reaches, 45% more alternate-hand reaches, and 37% less finger
   travel than the QWERTY layout.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  Left and right hand layouts
  
   In 1945, during World War II, Colonel Robert Allen lost his right arm.
   Being a writer, he now found typing nearly impossible. He contacted
   August Dvorak and asked for help. Using his previous research, August
   developed keyboard layouts for one handed typists. These are known as
   the Dvorak left hand layout and the Dvorak right hand layout. A few
   months after using the Dvorak left hand layout, the Colonel was typing
   over 50 WPM. (A scientific study comparing of the advantages of the
   Dvorak one-hand layouts to QWERTY has never been done. This would be
   like comparing the life preserving advantages of a life-jacket to a
   cinder block.)
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  How do I convert my keyboard to Dvorak?
  
   It's easier than you think. You can either buy a keyboard that has the
   Dvorak layout "hard wired" in, or use conversion software. Dvorak
   keyboards cost money, of course, but they have this advantage: you can
   take your keyboard from one computer to the next (if it is the same
   platform) and just plug it in, ready to start typing Dvorak. Software
   conversions have this compelling advantage: they're free.
   
   Software conversions:
   
   If you are using Windows 3.1, the Dvorak layout is a part of the
   operating system. It should be in Windows 95 also.
   
   To activate the Dvorak layout in Windows, follow these steps:
   
   1. Go to the Control Panel
   2. Select "International"
   3. Select "Country = US"
   4. Select "Language = English (American)"
   5. Select "Keyboard = US Dvorak"
   
   The first time you do this, you may be asked to insert an installation
   disk. This is one of the disks that came with Windows (or with your
   computer, if Windows was preinstalled).
   
   For DOS, you need the MS-DOS supplemental disk. For MS-DOS versions
   5.0 thru 6.22, Microsoft makes the MS-DOS Supplemental Disk. It
   contains several utility files, including the Dvorak keyboard layouts.
   [13]Click here to download the MS-DOS Supplemental Disk from
   Microsoft's FTP server. In the MSDOS forum on CompuServe, use
   DOS62S.EXE Phone orders can be placed with the Microsoft Sales
   Information Center at (800) 426-9400.
   
   For the Macintosh, several KCHR's are available online that will add
   the Dvorak layout to your keyboard control panel. Our favorite, not
   surprisingly, is "DI Dvorak layouts", written by Dvorak International.
   This is a set of all three Dvorak layouts. [14]Click here to download
   it from AOL's mirrors directory.
   
   Here are some sources for Dvorak keyboards:
   
    Key Tronic Corporation
    
   Makers of the KB101 PLUS keyboards. They have a Dvorak Conversion Kit
   available for $45.00. This kit includes the necessary keytops, a
   keytop removal tool, installation instructions and a detailed layout
   chart. You can buy the KB101 PLUS for the IBM PC, XT, AT and PS/2
   (PS/2 models require PS/2 adapter kit).
   
   Contact:
   Key Tronic
   PO Box 14687
   Spokane WA 99214-0687
   USA/(509) 928-8000
   FAX: (509) 927-5224
   USA Tech Support: 1-800-262-6006
   Canada: 1-800-348-6006
   
   Europe:
   The Ramparts
   Dundalk, County Louth
   Ireland
   Phone: +353 42 38100
   FAX: +353 42 38309
   
    Keytime
    
   Makers of the Keytimer 105 Plus Keyboard-four layouts built into one
   keyboard (Dvorak two hand, QWERTY, Dvorak left and right hand). With
   the tap of a key it will toggle to the layout of your choice, making
   it ideal for a work or school environment. $199.00. For the Macintosh.
   
   Contact:
   Keytime
   4516 NE 54th
   Seattle WA 98105-2933
   (206) 522-8973
   FAX: (206) 524-2238
   
    Kinesis Corporation
    
   Makers of the Kinesis keyboard. This PC keyboard-first introduced in
   1992-has a comprehensive ergonomic design that addresses the known
   stress factors for keyboard related injuries. The Kinesis Ergonomic
   Keyboard can be purchased with the Dvorak upgrade already installed or
   the upgrade may be purchased separately. The keyboard also supports
   custom layouts. Comes with a three-year limited warranty and 30-day,
   money-back guarantee. The Kinesis keyboard is $390. The Dvorak upgrade
   is $49. Shipping and handling are extra. Note: Compatibility with
   Macintosh and Sun computers requires an interface box, which may be
   purchased separately.
   
   Contact:
   Kinesis Corporation
   22232 17th Avenue Southeast
   Bothell WA 98021-7425
   (800) 454-6374 or (206) 402-8100
   FAX: (206) 402-8181
   
    Northgate Computer Systems
    
   Makes and sells the OmniKey Ultra-T and Ultra-F keyboard ($129.00
   each), the OmniKey 101NI ($89.00) and the OmniKey 102 ($89.00) These
   keyboards have the capability of changing layout configurations. From
   the keyboard you can select QWERTY, Dvorak Standard, Dvorak
   Right-Handed, or Dvorak Left-Handed. In any of its Dvorak
   configurations it is completely transparent to MS-DOS versions 3.x and
   later. Compatible with IBM PC/XT, PS/2 (except model 25) and
   compatibles, AT&T WGS, 6300, 6300WGS, 6300 Plus, Amiga 200 and 2500,
   Tandy 100SX and 100TX and Wyse. Shipping and handling not included.
   
   Contact:
   Northgate Computer Systems
   141 North Jonathan Blvd.
   Chaska MN 55318
   (800) 548-1993
   FAX: 1 (612) 361-5181
   International inquiries: 1(612) 361-5000
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  Where can I get stickers for my keyboard?
  
   You can try pulling the keycaps off your keyboard and rearranging
   them, but a more elegant solution is to buy a set of stickers
   (overlays) for your keyboard. Two sources for overlays are:
   
    Hooleon Corporation
    
   Source for various keycap overlays, including Dvorak only, and
   overlays that have both Dvorak and QWERTY layouts, to accommodate
   switching back and forth on the same keyboard.
   
   Contact:
   Hooleon Corp.
   260 Justin Dr.
   Cottonwood AZ 86326
   (800) 937-1337 (602) 634-7515 FAX: (602) 634-4620
   
    Keytime
    
   Nice and simple clear sticker overlays. They let you see the QWERTY
   layout underneath. Good for sharing your keyboard with unenlightened
   friends. $12.50.
   
   Contact:
   Keytime
   4516 NE 54th
   Seattle WA 98105-2933
   (206) 522-8973
   FAX: (206) 524-2238
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  What typing programs are available for learning Dvorak?
  
   Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing is one. Keytime (listed above) also has a
   typing package that teaches the Dvorak layout. Dvorak International
   has a short typing book called Touch Typing Dvorak that was written
   specifically for the Dvorak layout.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  I already touch type in QWERTY. How long will it take to learn Dvorak?
  
   That depends on the individual, and what they are trying to
   accomplish. For the person who is ready to dump QWERTY for good,
   relearning takes about two weeks. Some QWERTY typists experience a few
   lingering mis-strikes for several months after learning Dvorak, but
   the reported problems are considered minor by the typists, and are far
   outweighed by the new benefits of typing Dvorak.
   
   Typists trying to retain their QWERTY skills while learning Dvorak
   have mixed results. Learning Dvorak for them takes about a month, on
   average. Also, while some have no trouble keeping the two layouts
   straight in their heads (they liken it to learning a new language),
   others find that ultimately it is just too confusing. These people
   then have to make a decision as to which layout they want to spent the
   rest of their lives using.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  Does using the Dvorak layout prevent Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?
  
   At this point in time, there aren't any authorities willing to say
   that any specific thing either definitely causes or prevents Carpal
   Tunnel Syndrome. With all the potential lawsuits and worker
   compensation claims, it isn't hard to see why that may be. There are
   plenty of personal accounts from people who have said that switching
   to Dvorak has made a difference. Considering that Dvorak was made to
   make typing easier, and QWERTY designed to make typing harder, one can
   at least conclude that switching to Dvorak might be beneficial. It
   certainly won't make things worse!
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  About Dvorak International
  
   We are a nonprofit organization that provides help to individuals,
   schools, businesses and other groups that wish to convert to the
   Dvorak keyboard layouts. We provide general information about the
   Dvorak keyboard layout and publish Striking Home, a quarterly
   newsletter.
   
   Contact:
   Dvorak International
   PO Box 44
   Poultney, VT 05764-0044
   (802) 287-2434
   e-mail: DvorakInt@aol.com
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  Where can I get more information?
  
   Striking Home, the quarterly newsletter of Dvorak International, is
   the best place to get current information about the Dvorak layout.
   Subscription rates are $12 per year, US funds. We also have an up to
   date listing of Dvorak products - who has them and where you can get
   them. This is currently in printed form only. The cost is $2. Then
   there is the book published by Freelance Communications called The
   Dvorak Keyboard. I'm going to make you guess what it is about. The
   Dvorak Keyboard can be obtained from Dvorak International or directly
   from Freelance Communications. Their address is: Freelance
   Communications / PO Box 1895 / Upland CA 91785. Price is $12.95.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
                                      
  I want to give you all of my money. Where do I send it?
  
   The headquarters of Dvorak International is a large, modern complex,
   which on any typical day sees dozens of paid professionals hard at
   work - not! Try this: Dvorak International is run by ONE volunteer
   (me) working long hours promoting the Dvorak layout on an
   international scale - after getting home from an 8 hour job that pays
   the bills and supports my family. It is gratifying when enough support
   comes in (read $$$) to meet the monthly expenses of Dvorak
   International.
   
   If you would like to help promote the Dvorak layout, there is no more
   practical way than to make a donation to Dvorak International. Checks
   of any size are cheerfully accepted. The most popular sum is $30, but
   believe me, I'm not picky! Send donations to: Dvorak International /
   PO Box 44 / Poultney VT 05764-0044.
   
   If you would like to help promote the Dvorak layout in other ways,
   please contact me. I would like to hear your ideas.
   
   Steve Ingram
   President
   Dvorak International
   
   (July 1995)

References

   1. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#What
   2. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#History
   3. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Advantages
   4. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Handedness
   5. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Coversion
   6. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Stickers
   7. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Programs
   8. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Learning
   9. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#RSI
  10. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#About
  11. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#Info
  12. http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/dylan/DvorakIntl.html#DvorakIntl
  13. ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles/DOS62SP.EXE
  14. ftp://mirrors.aol.com/pub/mac/util/organization/dvoraklayouts.sit.hqx

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  Microsoft(R) Product Support Services Application Note (Text File)
                    GA0650: DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUTS
======================================================================
                                                   Revision Date: 3/96
                                                       1 Disk Included

The following information applies to Microsoft MS-DOS(R), Windows(R),
Windows for Workgroups, Windows NT(R), and Windows 95 (see below for
version numbers).

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This Application Note applies to MS-DOS 5.0, 6.0, 6.2, 6.21, or 6.22,
Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups 3.1 or 3.11, Windows NT 3.1, 3.5,
or 3.51, and Microsoft Windows 95.

INTRODUCTION
============  

Microsoft distributes Dvorak keyboard layouts that make the most 
frequently typed characters on a keyboard more accessible to people 
who have difficulty using the standard "QWERTY" layout. There are 
three Dvorak layouts: one for two-handed users, one for people who 
type only with their left hand, and one for people who type only with 
their right hand. The left- or right-hand keyboard layouts can also be 
used by people who type with a wand.

The enclosed disk includes files that provide new keyboard layouts for 
Microsoft MS-DOS 5.0, 6.0, 6.2, 6.21, or 6.22, Windows 3.1, Windows 
for Workgroups 3.1 or 3.11, Windows NT 3.1, 3.5, or 3.51, and 
Microsoft Windows 95.

This application note explains how to install these layouts and 
restore your original layout. It also provides illustrations of the 
layouts.

WHAT IS A KEYBOARD LAYOUT?
==========================

A keyboard layout is a map or a definition of how keys are laid out on 
your keyboard. The keyboard layout you use is determined by software 
in your computer. The letters on your keys indicate the standard 
layout for your keyboard. There are many different keyboard layouts in 
use throughout the world. The one you ordinarily use depends on the 
country you are in or the language you use.

Dvorak Keyboard Layouts
-----------------------

Dvorak keyboard layouts are based on designs created by Dr. August 
Dvorak, a professor at the University of Washington during the 1930s 
and 1940s. Dr. Dvorak studied the way people type standard English, 
and determined the most common letter combinations. He then designed 
new keyboard layouts to speed up typing and reduce fatigue. These 
layouts, now called Dvorak or simplified keyboard layouts, were 
initially developed for two-handed typists. Following World War II, 
Dvorak layouts were developed for typists who use the right or left 
hand alone.

INSTALLING A DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT FOR MS-DOS
==============================================

This Application Note provides the Dvorak.sys file. This file supports 
the Dvorak keyboard layouts for two-handed and single-handed typists 
who use MS-DOS 5.0, 6.0, 6.2, 6.21, or 6.22.

To Install a United States (U.S.) Dvorak Keyboard Layout for MS-DOS
-------------------------------------------------------------------

 1. If you received a disk with this Application Note, insert the disk
    in the appropriate floppy disk drive.

    If you downloaded this Application Note from an online service,
    skip to step 2. This procedure assumes that you have already
    downloaded and extracted the compressed file.

 2. Copy the Dvorak.sys file from the GA0650 disk or from the folder
    containing the file you downloaded from an online service to your
    MS-DOS directory by typing the following command at the MS-DOS
    command prompt and pressing ENTER:

       copy <drive>:\dvorak.sys <destination>

    where <drive> is the floppy disk drive containing the GA0650 disk
    or the folder containing the file you downloaded from an online
    service and <destination> is the drive and directory where your
    MS-DOS files reside. For example, if you inserted the GA0650 disk
    in drive A and your MS-DOS directory is called DOS and is on drive
    C, type the following line at the MS-DOS command prompt and press
    ENTER:

       copy a:\dvorak.sys c:\dos\dvorak.sys

 3. To begin using one of the new keyboard layouts, type the
    appropriate command (as shown in the table below) at the MS-DOS
    command prompt and press ENTER:

       Keyboard Layout     Command
       Two-handed          keyb dv,,c:\dos\dvorak.sys
       Right-handed        keyb rh,,c:\dos\dvorak.sys
       Left-handed         keyb lh,,c:\dos\dvorak.sys

To load one of these keyboard layouts automatically when your computer 
starts, include the appropriate KEYB command in your Autoexec.bat 
file. The KEYB command should be placed after a PATH command that 
includes your MS-DOS directory. If your Autoexec.bat file includes the 
WIN or DOSSHELL command, make sure the KEYB command comes before the 
WIN or DOSSHELL command.

Once you have loaded one of the Dvorak layouts, you can easily switch 
between the Dvorak layout and the U.S. standard layout. To switch back 
to the U.S. standard layout, press CTRL+ALT+F1. To switch to the 
Dvorak layout, press CTRL+ALT+F2.

To Disable the United States (U.S.) Dvorak Keyboard Layout for MS-DOS
---------------------------------------------------------------------

To disable the United States (U.S.) Dvorak keyboard layout for MS-DOS, 
open the Autoexec.bat file (with a text editor such as MS-DOS Editor), 
delete the line with the KEYB command, save the file, and restart your 
computer.

INSTALLING A DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT FOR
WINDOWS 3.1 OR WINDOWS FOR WORKGROUPS
======================================== 

This Application Note provides the Kbdusr.dll and Kbdusl.dll files. 
These files support the Dvorak keyboard layouts for Windows 3.1 or 
Windows for Workgroups 3.1 or 3.11 users who type with the right hand 
or left hand alone. Windows already includes the U.S. Dvorak keyboard 
layout for users who type with two hands.

NOTE: If you use MS-DOS-based programs with Windows, you must install 
the Dvorak layouts for MS-DOS in order to get Dvorak support for those 
programs. For instructions, see the previous section, "Installing a 
Dvorak Keyboard Layout for MS-DOS."

To Install the U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Two-Handed Typists
-----------------------------------------------------------------

 1. Run Control Panel.

 2. In Control Panel, double-click the International icon. The
    International dialog box appears.

 3. In the Keyboard Layout box, click US-Dvorak.

 4. Click OK.

To disable the two-handed Dvorak layout and restore your original 
layout, follow the steps in the preceding procedure. In step 3, choose 
your original layout.

To Install a U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Single-Handed Typists
------------------------------------------------------------------

 1. If you received a disk with this Application Note, insert the disk
    in the appropriate floppy disk drive.

    If you downloaded this Application Note from an online service,
    skip to step 2. This procedure assumes that you have already
    downloaded and extracted the compressed file.

 2. If you want to use the right-handed Dvorak layout, copy the
    Kbdusr.dll file to the Windows\System folder on your hard disk. If
    you want to use the left-handed Dvorak layout, copy the Kbdusl.dll
    file to the Windows\System folder on your hard disk. You can do
    this by typing the following command at the MS-DOS command prompt
    and pressing ENTER:

       copy <drive>:\<progname> <destination>

    where <drive> is the floppy disk drive containing the GA0650 disk
    or the folder containing the file you downloaded from an online
    service, <progname> is Kbdusr.dll for the right-handed layout or
    Kbdusl.dll for the left-handed layout, and <destination> is the
    drive and folder for the Windows\System folder.

    For example, if you inserted the GA0650 disk in drive A and your
    Windows folder is called Windows and is on drive C, type one of
    the following commands at the MS-DOS command prompt:

       copy a:\kbdusr.dll c:\windows\system\kbdusr.dll

       -or-

       copy a:\kbdusl.dll c:\windows\system\kdbusl.dll

    If you are using a shared copy of Windows that is installed on a
    network server, copy the file to your private Windows folder.

 3. Use a text editor, such as Notepad, to open the System.ini file in
    the Windows folder.

 4. Find the section that begins with the following line:

       [keyboard]

 5. Within the [keyboard] section, find the following line:

       keyboard.dll=

 6. Depending on which keyboard layout you want to use, type
    KBDUSL.DLL or KBDUSR.DLL after the equal sign (=). When you are
    finished, the line should look like one of the following lines:

       keyboard.dll=kbdusl.dll

         -or-

       keyboard.dll=kbdusr.dll

 7. Save the System.ini file. 

 8. Quit and then restart Windows.

To Disable the Single-Handed Layout and
Restore Your Original Windows Keyboard Layout
---------------------------------------------

 1. Run Control Panel.

 2. In Control Panel, double-click the International icon. The
    International dialog box appears.

 3. In the Keyboard Layout box, click the keyboard layout you
    previously used.

 4. Click OK.

INSTALLING A DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT FOR WINDOWS NT 3.1, 3.5, OR 3.51
====================================================================

To Install a U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Two-Handed Typists
---------------------------------------------------------------

 1. Run Control Panel.

 2. In Control Panel, double-click the International icon. The
    International dialog box appears.

 3. In the Keyboard Layout box, click US-Dvorak.

 4. Click OK.

To disable the two-handed Dvorak layout and restore your original 
layout, follow the steps in the preceding procedure. In step 3, choose 
your original layout.

To Install a U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Single-Handed Typists
------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: The Dvorak single-handed keyboard layouts support only Intel(R) 
processors. They do not support RISC processors at this time.

 1. If there is an Oemlay0.inf file in the Windows NT\System32 folder,
    rename it with a unique file name. For example, rename it
    Oemlay1.inf (if there is not already an Oemlay1.inf file in the
    System32 folder) with the following command:

       ren c:\winnt\system32\oemlay0.inf c:\winnt\system32\oemlay1.inf

    NOTE: When you rename an Oemlayn.inf file, choose the next unused
    number to ensure Windows NT reads all the Oemlayn.inf files
    correctly (where n is a number). For example, if you have three
    Oemlay.inf files (Oemlay0.inf, Oemlay1.inf, and Oemlay2.inf),
    rename Oemlay0.inf to Oemlay3.inf.

 2. If you received a disk with this Application Note, insert the disk
    in the appropriate floppy disk drive.

    If you downloaded this Application Note from an online service,
    skip to step 3. This procedure assumes that you have already
    downloaded and extracted the compressed file.

 3. Copy the Oemlay0.inf file from the GA0650 disk or the folder
    containing the file you downloaded from an online service to the
    Windows NT\System32 folder on the hard disk. You can do this by
    typing the following command at the MS-DOS command prompt and
    pressing ENTER:

       copy <drive>:\oemlay0.inf <destination>

    where <drive> is the floppy disk drive containing the GA0650 disk
    or the folder containing the file you downloaded from an online
    service and <destination> is the drive and folder for the Windows
    NT\System32 folder.

    For example, if the GA0650 disk is in drive A and your Windows NT
    folder is called WINNT and is on drive C, type the following
    command at the MS-DOS command prompt and press ENTER:

 4. Run Control Panel.

 5. In Control Panel, double-click the International icon. The
    International dialog box appears.

 6. In the Keyboard Layout box, click US Left Single-Handed Layout or
    US Right Single-Handed Layout.

 7. Click OK. Windows NT prompts you to type the path to the Kbdrh.dll
    or Kbdlh.dll file.

 8. Type the path to the floppy disk drive that contains the GA0650
    disk or to the folder containing the file you downloaded from an
    online service.

    For example, if you put the disk in drive A, you would type the
    following:

       a:

 9. Click Continue.

To Disable the Single-Handed Layout and
Restore Your Original Windows NT Keyboard Layout
------------------------------------------------

 1. Run Control Panel.

 2. In Control Panel, double-click the International icon. The
    International dialog box appears.

 3. In the Keyboard Layout box, click the keyboard layout you
    previously used.

 4. Click OK.

INSTALLING A DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT FOR WINDOWS 95
==================================================

To Install a U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Two-Handed Typists
---------------------------------------------------------------

NOTE: If you use MS-DOS-based programs with Windows 95, you must 
install the Dvorak layouts for MS-DOS in order to get Dvorak support 
for those programs. For instructions, see the previous section, 
"Installing a Dvorak Keyboard Layout for MS-DOS."

 1. In Control Panel, double-click the Keyboard icon. Or, in Control
    Panel, select the Keyboard icon with the ARROW keys and then press
    ENTER.

 2. Click the Language tab. Or, select the Language tab by pressing
    CTRL+TAB.

 3. Click the language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, and
    then click Properties. Or, use the ARROW keys to select the
    language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, press TAB
    until Properties is selected, and then press ENTER.

 4. In the Keyboard Layout box, click United States-Dvorak, and then
    click OK. Or, use the ARROW keys to select United States-Dvorak,
    and then press ENTER.

 5. Click OK. Or, press TAB until OK is selected, and then press
    ENTER.

To Install a U.S. Dvorak Keyboard Layout for Single-Handed Typists
------------------------------------------------------------------

 1. If you received a disk with this Application Note, insert the disk
    in the appropriate floppy disk drive.

    If you downloaded this Application Note from an online service,
    skip to step 2. This procedure assumes that you have already
    downloaded and extracted the compressed file.

 2. Use Windows Explorer or My Computer to copy the following files
    from the GA0650 disk or the folder containing the file you
    downloaded from an online service to an empty folder on the hard
    disk:

       Dvoraklr.inf
       Kbddvl.kbd
       Kbddvr.kbd
       Multilng.inf

 3. In Windows Explorer or My Computer, use the right mouse button to
    click the Dvoraklr.inf file you copied to the new folder in step
    2, and then click Install on the menu that appears. Or, use the
    ARROW keys to select the Dvoraklr.inf file, and then press
    SHIFT+F10.

 4. In Control Panel, double-click the Keyboard icon. Or, in Control
    Panel, select the Keyboard icon with the ARROW keys and then press
    ENTER.

 5. Click the Language tab. Or, select the Language tab by pressing
    CTRL+TAB.

 6. Click the language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, and
    then click Properties. Or, use the ARROW keys to select the
    language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, press TAB
    until Properties is selected, and then press ENTER.

 7. In the Keyboard Layout box, click either United States-LH Dvorak
    for left-handed typists or United States-RH Dvorak for right-
    handed typists, and then click OK. Or, use the ARROW keys to
    select either United States-LH Dvorak for left-handed typists or
    United States-RH for right-handed typists, and then press ENTER.

 8. Click OK. Or, press TAB until OK is selected, and then press
    ENTER.

To Disable the Dvorak Layout and
Restore Your Original Windows 95 Keyboard Layout
------------------------------------------------

 1. In Control Panel, double-click the Keyboard icon. Or, in Control
    Panel, select the Keyboard icon with the ARROW keys and then press
    ENTER.

 2. Click the Language tab. Or, select the Language tab by pressing
    CTRL+TAB.

 3. Click the language from which you want to remove the Dvorak
    layout, and then click Properties. Or, use the ARROW keys to
    select the language from which you want to remove the Dvorak
    layout, press TAB until Properties is selected, and then press
    ENTER.

 4. In the Keyboard Layout box, click the layout you previously used,
    and then click OK. Or, use the ARROW keys to select the layout you
    previously used, and then press ENTER.

 5. Click OK. Or, press TAB until OK is selected, and then press
    ENTER.

To Switch Between a Dvorak Layout and Another Layout
----------------------------------------------------

You may need to switch back and forth between the Dvorak layout and 
another layout. An easy way to do this is to set up the Dvorak layout 
as another language, and then switch back and forth between languages. 
To do so, follow these steps:

 1. Make sure the Dvorak layout you want to use is already installed
    and operational on your computer. Refer to the previous sections
    if you need instructions for installing the Dvorak layout.

 2. Follow the instructions in the "To disable the Dvorak layout and
    restore your original Windows 95 keyboard layout" section above to
    restore your original layout.

 3. In Control Panel, double-click the Keyboard icon. Or, in Control
    Panel, select the Keyboard icon with the ARROW keys and then press
    ENTER.

 4. Click the Language tab. Or, select the Language tab by pressing
    CTRL+TAB.

 5. Click Add, or press ALT+D.

 6. In the Language box, click a language other than the language you
    are currently using, and then click OK. Or, use the ARROW keys to
    select a language other than the language you are currently using,
    and then press ENTER.
 
    NOTE: It does not matter which language you choose, because the
    Dvorak layout will be applied to the language instead of the
    normal keyboard layout for that language. It is helpful to choose
    a language that has a different two-letter code to indicate which
    language is in use. We recommend choosing Danish because it uses
    "Da" as its two-letter code, which might be helpful in
    distinguishing it as the Dvorak layout.

 7. Click the language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, and
    then click Properties. Or, use the ARROW keys to select the
    language to which you want to add the Dvorak layout, press TAB
    until Properties is selected, and then press ENTER.

    NOTE: Make sure to apply the Dvorak layout to the new language,
    and not to the "English (United States)" language. 

 8. In the Keyboard Layout box, click United States-Dvorak for two-
    handed typists, United States-LH Dvorak for left-handed typists,
    or United States-RH Dvorak for right-handed typists, and then
    click OK. Or, use the ARROW keys to select United States-Dvorak
    for two-handed typists, United States-LH Dvorak for left-handed
    typists, or United States-RH for right-handed typists, and then
    press ENTER.

 9. In the Switch Languages box, click the option you want to use to
    switch languages. Or, press TAB until the selection enters the
    Switch Languages box, and then use the ARROW keys to select the
    option you want.

10. If you want a constant language indicator on the screen, click the
    Enable Indicator On Taskbar check box to select it. Or, press TAB
    until Enable Indicator On Taskbar is selected, and then press
    SPACE BAR to place a check mark in the check box.

11. Click OK. Or, press TAB until OK is selected, and then press
    ENTER. 

    NOTE: If you enabled the Enable Indicator On Taskbar option, you
    can click the two-letter language code on the taskbar and then
    click the language you want to use. You can also use the right
    mouse button to click the two-letter code and then click What's
    This for help or Properties to open Keyboard properties.

LEARNING TO USE THE DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUTS
===========================================

The illustrations on the next page can help you learn a new keyboard 
layout. You may want to take a class or purchase stickers to put on 
your keys so that you can see the new layout as you type. For 
information about classes and stickers, contact:

    KEYTIME
    4516 NE 54th St.
    Seattle, WA  98105-2933 
    (206) 522-TYPE (522-8973)
    (207) 524-2238 (fax)


STANDARD QWERTY KEYBOARD LAYOUT
--------------------------------------------
 ~  !  @  #  $  %  ^  &  *  (  )  _  +
 `  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  0  -  =  bks
--------------------------------------------
                                   {  }  |
 tb  Q  W  E  R  T  Y  U  I  O  P  [  ]  \
--------------------------------------------
 cps                             :  "
 lck  A  S  D  F  G  H  J  K  L  ;  '  entr
--------------------------------------------
                            <  >  ?
 shft  Z  X  C  V  B  N  M  ,  . /   shft
--------------------------------------------


TWO-HANDED DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT
--------------------------------------------
 ~  !  @  #  $  %  ^  &  *  (  )  {  }
 `  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  0  [  ]  bks
--------------------------------------------
     "  <  >                       ?  +
 tb  '  ,  . P  Y  F  G  C  R  L  /  =  \
--------------------------------------------
 cps                                _
 lck  A  O  E  U  I  D  H  T  N  S  -  entr
--------------------------------------------
       :
 shft  ;  Q  J  K  X  B  M  W  V  Z   shft
--------------------------------------------


RIGHT SINGLE-HANDED DVORAK KEYBOARD LAYOUT
--------------------------------------------
 ~  !  @  #  $                 ?  {  }
 `  1  2  3  4  J  L  M  F  P  /  [  ]  bks
--------------------------------------------
     %  ^     >                    :  +  |
 tb  5  6  Q  . O  R  S  U  Y  B  ;  =  \
--------------------------------------------
 cps  &  *                          _
 lck  7  8  Z  A  E  H  T  D  C  K  -  entr
--------------------------------------------
       (  )     <                 "
 shft  9  0  X  ,  I  N  W  V  G  '   shft
--------------------------------------------


LEFT SINGLE-HANDED DVORAD KEYBOARD LAYOUT
--------------------------------------------
 ~  {  }  ?                 $  #  @  !
 `  [  ]  /  P  F  M  L  J  4  3  2  1  bks
--------------------------------------------
     :                       >  ^  %  +  |
 tb  ;  Q  B  Y  U  R  S  O  . 6  5  =  \
--------------------------------------------
 cps  _                          *  &
 lck  -  K  C  D  T  H  E  A  Z  8  7  entr
--------------------------------------------
       "                    <  )  (
 shft  '  X  G  V  W  N  I  ,  0  9   shft
--------------------------------------------

===============================================================================


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You (Brian C. White) wrote:
> Package: nis
> Version: 1.20-1
> 
> I having problems with cron reporting the following error should the
> NIS server be unavailable.
> 
> 	yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Remote system error
> 
> This is very annoying as I will get mail every minute or two when cron
> tries to execute at-run.  This is also causing a problem with gnats as
> it thinks the mail is a bug report and starts processing it.
> 
> I assume it is NIS doing this since cron works fine without NIS
> installed.
> 
> This should be handled more gracefully.  A background utility like this
> should be sending errors via syslog or something instead of writing to
> STDOUT or STDERR.

This is a bug in the library; the library routines print this (they
shouldn't ofcourse). Heeemmm can anybody tell me how to redirect
a bug report to another package, libc5 in particular?

Mike.
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Package: procps
Version: 1.01a-1

-chiark:~> w
  2:13pm  up 17 days, 12:23, 12 users,  load average: 0.31, 0.20, 0.14
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
richard  ttyp0    mojave.elmail.co  9:24am 26.00s  0.65s  0.65s  -bash 
pjb1008  ttyp2    ash.eng:0.0      10:00am 12:37   1.50s  1.24s  -bash 
ian      ttyp1    :0.0             11:22am  2:51m  1:36   0.63s  xclock 
ian      ttyp3    :0.0             11:22am  2:51m  0.14s  0.14s             bash
ian      ttyp7    :0.0             11:23am  1.00s  0.54s  0.25s  w 
matthew  ttyp8    puffball.atml.co 11:30am  2:43m  0.36s  0.36s             bash
kat      ttypa    mtcsf.mt.ic.ac.u 12:07pm  1:19m  0.82s  0.51s              trn
steve    ttypb    theron.cl.cam.ac 12:31pm  1:27  13.01s 12.80s  pine 
steve    ttypc    theron.cl.cam.ac 12:32pm  0.00s  0.49s  0.22s  ftp ftp.mcc.ac.
ian      ttypd    :0.0              2:09pm 11.00s  0.10s  0.09s  rlogin localhos
ijackson ttype    localhost         2:09pm 11.00s  0.37s  0.37s  /bin/bash 
root     ttypf    :0.0              2:09pm  3:30   0.24s  0.24s  bash 
-chiark:~> 

And, from one of my users:

chiark:richard$ w
  2:09pm  up 17 days, 12:19, 13 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.18, 0.14
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
richard  ttyp0    mojave.elmail.co  9:24am  0.00s  1.08s  0.60s  w 
pjb1008  ttyp2    ash.eng:0.0      10:00am  8:38   1.50s  1.24s  -bash 
ian      ttyp1    :0.0             11:22am  2:47m  1:36   0.61s  xclock 
ian      ttyp3    :0.0             11:22am  2:47m  0.14s  0.14s             bash
ian      ttyp7    :0.0             11:23am  9.00s  0.26s  0.26s  bash 
matthew  ttyp8    puffball.atml.co 11:30am  2:39m  0.36s  0.36s             bash
ian      ttyp9    :0.0              2:09pm 30.00s  0.13s  0.13s  trn 
kat      ttypa    mtcsf.mt.ic.ac.u 12:07pm  1:15m  0.82s  0.51s              trn
steve    ttypb    theron.cl.cam.ac 12:31pm 35:58  12.20s 11.99s  pine 
steve    ttypc    theron.cl.cam.ac 12:32pm  1:37m  0.22s  0.22s             bash
ian      ttypd    :0.0              2:09pm 22.00s  0.10s  0.09s  rlogin localhos
ijackson ttype    localhost         2:09pm 22.00s  0.46s  0.09s  mailx 
root     ttypf    :0.0              2:09pm  1.00s  0.18s  0.17s  bash 
chiark:richard$ 

As he says, it's also not clear what units the idle times 8:38 and
35:58 are supposed to be.

Ian.


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Package: base
Version: 1.1.0-14

I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall.  It should
be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to.  I don't like
it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging system.


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Package: xbase
Version: 3.1.2-9

FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in 
/var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by default
in above package.

Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line
"DisplayManager.errorLogFile:" to 

"DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/lib/xdm/xdm-errors"

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You (Carlos Carvalho) wrote:
> The newer base packages create /dev/tty* with permission rw-rw----.
> This causes an error when you try to open an xterm/rxvt window. They
> quit with "couldn't open a pseudo-terminal" msg. I don't know whose
> fault it is.
> 
> However, the newest sysvinit has this command in the boot script:
> 
> chmod 666 /dev/tty[pqrs]*
> 
> So there seems to be a disagreement between the maintainers, no?

I think that /dev/ttyp* and /dev/pty* should be 666, otherwise every
program using ptys would have to be setuid or setgid at least.

While on the subject of /dev, Bruce, could you include more tty devices?
The base package has isdn devices, soundblaster devices etc. but only
ttyS0..3 are included. I happened to install a FourPort yesterday and
had to make them by hand (tty4..7). The /etc/rc.boot/0setserial does
indeed reference those ports but it doesn't print an error message if
they're missing.

Mike.
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Package: dselect
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dselect is more complicated than it needs to be.  Anyone who has used
the package selector for RedHat can understand why people like it so
much.  I like having a versatile interface such as the one dselect
offers, but it shouldn't be so incompatible keystroke-wise with other
common interfaces.

1. A consistent key should be chosen for the `quit' function, to exit
   the current task.  It's `q' here, space there, and enter there.

   Space and enter should do something else.  In most applications,
   such as `dialog' enter selects, it doesn't quit.  Space is also
   usually a selection or toggle options, but never exit.

   It's really bizarre and confusing that space and enter would do
   these things.

2. A consistent key(s) should be chosen for the `help'.  I suggest F1
   and Ctrl-h throughout.  (Like DOS or Emacs)

3. Using `/' for search forward makes me want to use `?' to search in
   reverse.  I hit it often enough to get really frustrated.
   (`?' in `less' and `vi')

4. `/' should remember the last search instead of requiring a separate
   keystroke, `\'.  (`/' in `less' and `vi')

5. The package list browser should not start in help mode.  There is a
   reason that Emacs has an inhibit-startup-message variable.

6. The EIOM columns are not very intuitive.  Remove the short
   description (or move it over) since a long one is displayed below
   and extend these toggles such that they are understandable.


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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.12elf

If you run install-info in --test mode, it still tries to lock the
/usr/info/dir file.  If you don't happen to currently have write
permission there, it fails.

Here's a unified diff that fixes this:
(this message is unsigned since it screws with the diff below.  I need
to integrate tm into xemacs.)
--- /usr/sbin/install-info.orig	Thu Jul 25 19:56:28 1996
+++ /usr/sbin/install-info	Thu Jul 25 23:08:33 1996
@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@
     }
 }
 
-if (!link("$infodir/dir","$infodir/dir.lock")) {
+if (!$nowrite && !link("$infodir/dir","$infodir/dir.lock")) {
     die "$name: failed to lock dir for editing! $!\n".
         ($! =~ m/exists/i ? "try deleting $infodir/dir.lock ?\n" : '');
 }
@@ -335,9 +335,8 @@
         &ulquit("$name: cannot backup old $infodir/dir, giving up: $!\n");
     rename("$infodir/dir.new","$infodir/dir") ||
         &ulquit("$name: install new $infodir/dir: $!\n");
-}
-
 unlink("$infodir/dir.lock") || die "$name: unlock $infodir/dir: $!\n";
+}
 
 sub ulquit {
     unlink("$infodir/dir.lock") ||

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Package: perl
Version: 5.003-2

/usr/doc/examples/perl

total 32
drwxr-xr-x   6 root     root         1024 Jul 23 02:09 .
drwxr-xr-x  27 root     root         1024 Jul 26 12:13 ..
-r--r-----   1 root     root          192 Jul  1 14:23 ADB.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          567 Jul  1 14:23 README.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          466 Jul  1 14:23 changes.gz
-r-xr-x--x   1 root     root          347 Jul  1 14:23 client.gz
-r-xr-x--x   1 root     root          309 Jul  1 14:23 down.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          348 Jul  1 14:23 dus.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          681 Jul  1 14:23 findcp.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          357 Jul  1 14:23 findtar.gz
drwxr-x--x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 23 02:09 g
-r--r-----   1 root     root         1179 Jul  1 14:23 muck.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          423 Jul  1 14:23 muck.man.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          530 Jul  1 14:23 myrup.gz
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drwxr-x--x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 23 02:09 scan
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drwxr-x--x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 23 02:09 sysvipc
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-r-xr-x--x   1 root     root         1538 Jul  1 14:23 unuc.gz
-r--r-----   1 root     root          303 Jul  1 14:23 uudecode.gz
drwxr-x--x   2 root     root         1024 Jul 23 02:09 van
-r--r-----   1 root     root          324 Jul  1 14:23 who.gz
-r-xr-x--x   1 root     root         1479 Jul  1 14:23 wrapsuid.gz


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Package: mount
Version: 2.5j-1

The transcript should explain the problem pretty well.  I believe the
problem is the different between the options line in the fstab and the
options listed by `mount', but I haven't had any time to examine the
problem further.

There is also a 2.5k version of mount.

[quinlan:~]$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system>	<mount point>	<type>	<options>	<dump>	<pass>
/dev/sda1	/		ext2	defaults	0	1
/dev/sda2	none		swap	sw		0	0
/dev/sda3	/dos		vfat	defaults	0	2
proc		/proc		proc	defaults	0	0
/dev/sda4	/local		ext2	defaults	0	2
/dev/cdrom	/cd		iso9660	ro,user,noauto	0	0
[quinlan:~]$ df
Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sda1             498900  129148   343985     27%   /
/dev/sda4            3053225  347526  2547789     12%   /local
/dev/sda3             453288   40448   412840      9%   /dos
[quinlan:~]$ mount /cd
[quinlan:~]$ df
Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sda1             498900  129164   343969     27%   /
/dev/sda4            3053225  347534  2547781     12%   /local
/dev/sda3             453288   40448   412840      9%   /dos
/dev/sbpcd0           388856  388856        0    100%   /cd
[quinlan:~]$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/sda4 on /local type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sda3 on /dos type vfat (rw)
/dev/sbpcd0 on /cd type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[quinlan:~]$ umount /cd
umount: /cd mount disagrees with the fstab
[quinlan:~]$ sudo umount /cd


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"Brian C. White" <bcwhite@verisim.com> wrote:
> > > I propose to add the following virtual packages:
> > >
> > >   - gnu-make    useful for packages like kernel-package and my new
> > >                 compress-package (not yet released) that *need* a GNU make
> > >                 to be used.
> > 
> > Do we have (or expect to have) more than one package that provides "make"?
> > Otherwise, I don't see the use.
> 
> Actually, changing the name of the make package to "gnumake" might not
> be too bad of an idea.  There are several versions of make around.  While
> I see little reason for other versions of make, Debian has several
> instances of redundant packages.  I mean, why bother with any other
> editors when "emacs" is available?  <runs away laughing before he gets
> lynched>
> 
> You could make a case for virtual package "make", instead.

I like this idea.  It seems to me that having GNU Make's package name being
"gmake", and having it provide "make" (with pmake doing the same), is the
better way to do it.  Manoj, as GNU Make maintainer, do you have anything to
say on the issue?

				Warwick

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It seems obvious from the responses I've had, that one of the programs needs
to be renamed (no other solutions were presented, and, frankly, I can't
really think of one that won't cause problems).  If we assume this is the
case, it is fairly obvious which one should be renamed: the Mercury one.

Mercury's "mc" probably isn't often invoked by the average Mercury user -
it's normally called by the automated build tools that come with it.  This
means that many users won't notice the change anyway.  For anyone who's
interested, the new name will be "merc" (chosen by consultation with the
Mercury authors).

				Warwick

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You (Dan Stromberg) wrote:
> Ian Jackson wrote:
> > 
> > sh is not suitable for many of the things Perl gets used for -
> > consider update-inetd, update-info &c.
> 
> Actually, a /bin/sh script to add inetd.conf entries, and another to
> remove entries keyed off the service field, was unmentionably simple to
> code, and has proved quite reliable in (lots of) practice.

Come on. update-rc.d is a sh script, and on my Pentium133 it takes 10 (ten!)
seconds to run. That's unacceptable. I rewrote it in perl, line-by-line so
without optimizing it and it now runs in 0.1 secs or so.

_Speed_ is also important.

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Package: lynx
Version: 2.5 and 2.4-FM-960316
OS: Debian 1.1, 17 JUN 96, with dpkg 1.2.11elf
Bug: Lynx thinks *.deb files are "text/plain",
     rather than "binary". Therefor downloads corrupt *.deb files.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NOTE: Please close Bug#3875 and substitute this bug report for it.
Reason: evidently the bug tracking software is MIME ignorant.
So the attached files for Bug#3875 are gibberish.
This bug report uses no attached files. It does contain the same
info, though.
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The included files refer to a session through my Internet access
provider running Lynx 2.5, but lynx_2.4-FM-960316-1.deb has identical 
behavior.

The first file is a reply from Ian Jackson. It may be helpful.
The second file is a capture of a session.

EM
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>From ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.ukThu Jul 18 04:34:31 1996
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 02:33 BST
From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
To: Eddie Maddox <maddo005@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: dpkg "bug": "TEXT/PLAIN" 1.1 *.deb ENTRIES ON MIRRORS!!!

Eddie Maddox writes ("Re: dpkg "bug": "TEXT/PLAIN" 1.1 *.deb ENTRIES ON MIRRORS!!!"):
> On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
...
> > If the latter then you probably downloaded the files in text mode or
>                                                           TRUE! and...
> 
> > something.
>   ^^^^^^^^^! The Debian MIRRORS all (I checked five, 1.1 and 1.1 updates
> dirs) have directory designators of "text/plain" for the .deb files!!!!!

You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of FTP.

FTP doesn't carry a `designator' or any such thing.  You must be using
some brain-damaged Web browser to download the files, and it is
pretending to you that FTP is just like HTTP.  HTTP has a Content-Type
field in the reply from the server.  FTP just has filenames, and your
browser is probably guessing the type from the filename - incorrectly.

Use a real FTP client and say `binary' at it.

Or perhaps you're downloading the files from someone's HTTP server,
which has been badly set up, so that it doesn't know that .deb files
should be application/x-debian-binary.

Ian.
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and a major research institution, with scholars of national and
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       The University, with its four campuses, is one of the most
comprehensive universities in the country and ranks among the top 20
universities in the United States. It is both the state land-grant
university, with a strong tradition of education and public service,
and a major research institution, with scholars of national and
international reputation. The University has set a goal of becoming
one of the top public institutions in the country. Its four campuses
   are located in the Twin Cities,Duluth,Morris,and Crookston. You can
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Please see our web site http://www.debian.org for more informn
Debian. 

Debian 1.1 was released Monday, June 17 1996.  Installation
instructions that can be read using your web browser are in
http:Debian-1.1/disks-i386/current/install.html

A text version of those instructions is in
Debian-1.1/disks-i386/current/install.txt

Instructions for upgrading from your debian-0.93 system are in the
upgrades/ directory.  
   
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contains a copy of the Debian-1.1 tree with the updates applied.  The
minor number is changed whenever new updates are added.  stable points
to the latest Debian-1.1.x.
      
The current development snapshot is in rex.  unstable and development       
are links to rex.

Other directories are:
IncomingPackages yet to be placed into the hierarchy.
buzz*           Debian-1.1 files are actually here.        
contrib         User contributed packages.                 
debian-bugs     Archive of the bug reports.    
debian-lists    Archives of the Debian mailing lists.
doc             Documentation, instructions on how to submit bug reports.
indices         Various indices of the site.
non-freeNon-free packages.
project         Experimental packages.
tools           Tools for creating boot disks and booting Linux.
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This directory contains important updates to Debian-1.1, codenamed
"buzz".  Please read the ChangeLog file to see which packages are in
here and why. 

The directory ../Debian-1.1.x contains a Debian-1.1 tree with these
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The directory ../Debian-1.1.x contains a Debian-1.1 tree with these
updates applied.

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Jul 10 11:30  Directory        non-free
Jun 28 23:32  Directoryproject
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Please see our web site http://www.debian.org for information on Debian.

Debian 1.1 is released as of Monday, June 17 1996.

Installation instructions that can be read using your web browser are in
http:disks-i386/current/install.html       
A text version of those instructions is in
disks-i386/current/install.txt        

Instructions for upgrading from your debian-0.93 system are in
the ../upgrades/ directory.           

Please read the file README         
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The installation floppy set is now located in the "current" sub-directory.
"current" is actually a symbolic link. If you "ls -l", it should look like
this:
        current -> <year>_<month>_<date>

The name of the directory it points to indicates the creation date of the
boot floppy set.

Contents of this Directory

ftp:currentThe current boot floppy set.

ftp:special-kernels   Special kernels and boot floppy disks, for hardware
configurations that don't work with our regular


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These are the installation floppy disks for Debian.

Please see the file ftp:install.html (readable with your web browser) for
instructions. You can use install.txt if you don't have a web browser,
or install.ps to print on a PostScript printer.

ftp:README       This message  
ftp:cfdisk.txt   Manual page for "cfdisk" (the disk partitioning program)
ftp:install.html HTML version of the installation manual.
ftp:install.txt  Text version of the installation manual.
ftp:install.ps   PostScript version of the installation manual
ftp:boot1200.bin Boot disk - 1.2 MB version.
ftp:boot1440.bin Boot disk - 1.44 MB version.
ftp:root.bin     Root disk - works in any size floppy drive.


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ftp:base12-1.bin, ftp:base12-2.bin, ftp:base12-3.bin, ftp:base12-4.bin
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ftp:base14-1.bin, ftp:base14-2.bin, ftp:base14-3.bin
      Base disk set - 1.44MB version.
ftp:md5sum.txt   MD5 checksums of all files.

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Jun 29 04:50  Directoryadmin
Jul 10 11:30  Directorybase
Jun 29 00:01  Directorycomm
Jun 29 04:50  Directorydevel
Jun 29 04:50  Directorydoc
Jun 29 04:50  Directoryeditors
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Jun 29 04:50  Directory        admin            
Jul 10 11:30  Directory        base    
Jun 29 00:01  Directory comm
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Jun 29 04:50  Directorydoc
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**NOTE**: You do not need to install these packages after                
installing the base system from diskette!  These packages
are here for completeness and for upgrading purposes.

If you are looking for instructions on how to install Debian,   
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On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, marc hoffmann wrote:

> Package: Octave
> Version: 1.1.1-3
> 
> After installing octave it won't run and giving a message like:
> can't find /lib/libg++ (I don't remember exactly).
> After installing libg++27 elf version (version 2.7.1-2), everything worked 
> fine. Octave had no dependancies on libg++ in dselect, so this may be the 
> reason.

This has already been fixed in a later version. The current version in
unstable is 1.1.1-6 and has all proper dependancies, including libg++27.

I will mark this as done...

Dwarf

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This fixes the architectural problems in the source.

Date: 02 Aug 96 13:36 UT
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Source: gmp
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Later,

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Guy Maor:
> I don't think we should move the copyright file.  Most people don't
> ever need to look at them, so it's simpler if they're out of the way.

<aol>I agree, because of this, and because there are packages that only have
and need a copyright file, but not their own directory below /usr/doc.</aol>

> I do, however, think we should move the examples directory.  I've

<aol>I agree.</aol>

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Warwick HARVEY:
> Are there packages that depend on having an editor, 

Without trying, I think of vipw, vigr, mail, elm, rcs (and thus cvs),
trn, tin, and nn. I grant that all but vipw and vigr can be used without
an editor -- if you only read mail and news and never check anything in.

I don't have an opinion on whether an editor virtual package is needed,
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  Erick> Package: emacs 
  Erick> Version: 19.31-2
  Erick> 
  Erick> I load hilit19.el in my .emacs but when not under X this error
  Erick> occurs.
  Erick> 
  Erick> Loading hilit19...  Error in init file: error: "X windows are not in
  Erick> use or not initialized"

That is your fault, not emacs. Start is like this:

;; hilit conditional on color
(if (x-display-color-p)
        (require 'hilit19))       

Nice number for the bug report, though :-)

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> There should be a link or note in /usr/doc/perl about
> /usr/doc/examples/perl.

This is standard on debian, I don't see why a link is needed.

Erick


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> I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall.

I can do it: dpkg --force-remove-essential --remove ae

> It should be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to.

But you have to do a little extra for it.

> I don't like it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging system.

You aren't, it is assumed that you have more cynapsis running than a
child to come with something like --force-remove-essential (:-), but
I presume that you did want to do from dselect and I don't know if that
can be done.

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On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Warwick HARVEY wrote:

> > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
> > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
> > others as well).
> 
> What would it be used for?  Are there packages that depend on having an
> editor, or for which it would be appropriate to recommend one (and have any
> old editor serve the purpose)?  If so, no problem...
> 
Here is a better reason:

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Package: base
Version: 1.1.0-14

I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall.  It should
be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to.  I don't like
it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging system.

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So, if the base packages include a depends: editor and ae provides: editor
as well as vi, joe, emacs, and others. Then, as long as some package that
provides editor is installed, ae can be removed without difficulty.
(Actually I think the above problem is aleviated by removing ESSENTIAL
from ae, but the editor provides helps maintain the existance of some
editor on the system)

Later,

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I 'm busy with mflib and thought that it might be useful to have
the weekly script run daily by cron because a daily run will have
a bigger chance to be run on systems which are on and off (like mine
at home).  Therefore I would need to remove the conffigurationfile
/etc/cron.weekly/mflib from the package and put a new one into
the package named /etc/cron.daily/mflib.  How can this be done?

Erick


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  Erick> * added latin1.sty: Michael Meskens requested 

See the documentation in /usr/doc/latex/ltnews0[23].tex.gz, this is no longer
needed since about last June.

I used to use latin1, but now prefer
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This fixes the description bug.

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branderh@iaehv.nl (Erick Branderhorst) writes:

> If "-w", "use strict" and "use English" makes perl code more reasonable 
> why don't we require that in the guidelines right now and put some effort
> in a perl2guile translator (everybody will benefit).

Interesting idea.  I always use these options, but I'd be reluctant to
force others to do the same.  BTW I also like "use FileHandle"...

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This repairs the architecture bug reported against this package.

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Package: fileutils
Version: 3.13-2

The fileutils package has an empty /usr/libexec directory in the .deb
file.  I don't think the FSSTND supports libexec yet, so the directory
should be removed.

David
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I just tried to build elm from the debian source package with the thought
that I might be able to maintain it. So far the verdict is not in.
The build target in debian.rules is really very simple:

	make
	make documentation
	touch build

However, if I try "debian.rules build" I get:

make
make[1]: Entering directory `/Debian/pkgwork/elm/elm-2.4pl25'
cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  -w all
/usr/bin/pmake: illegal option -- w
usage: make [-eiknqrst] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-f makefile ]
            [-I directory] [-j max_jobs] [variable=value]
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Debian/pkgwork/elm/elm-2.4pl25'
make: *** [build] Error 2

When I enter the commands by hand, at the prompt everything works fine! In
both cases the command issued is the same but execution from the prompt
looks like:

cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  - all

and everything runs fine... :-S

Any pointers would be appreciated,

Dwarf

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> > I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> > advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been
> > invented.
> 
> As to assembler, there are lots of _very_ different styles of writing it;
> there is no one "Assembler" language. It's quite impossible to say
> anything general about it.

No it's not.  Assembler is low-level crunching.  It's unstructured, typeless,
and unportable.  If you want portable asm, go to C.

This wasn't about style.  It's about "cryptic".  Good and bad style is
possible in any language.


> As to C, while the language does miss some very crucial features and does
> make it relatively easy to write cryptic programs, the language itself is
> quite clean and orthogonal. Parsing C code, for example, does not have any
> of the quirks that parsing, say, FORTRAN or -surprise!- Perl has.

Perl's syntax is quite straightforward for a human.  It is, however, a
language of side-effects.  This is what can make it difficult to follow.
It's also what gives it part of its power.


> I still have trouble
> figuring out how to write _readable_ programs in Perl.

Funny, I don't.


> Sorry, but I disagree very much. Perl is an powerful and effective
> language. It is neither fine nor even clean; it is _very_ ugly. And while
> some variants of code are indeed easy to write in a clean way, lots of
> others aren't. You can't get rid of dependencies on $_, for example. In
> that aspect it's a lot more like assembler than like any high-level
> language.

There are very, very few places you _must_ use $_.  Writing clean code
is no more difficult than in any other language.  It's just easy in
perl to write things poorly.  I put this blame on the programmer, though,
not the language.


> > As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
> > little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
> > useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
> > to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
> > at MS-Dos!)
> 
> It doesn't depend on the "easy" factor, either. Look at MS-DOS, indeed -
> for a very long time, all the utilities were completely written in
> assembler. (Somehow, this didn't make them small and fast.)

This point totally escapes me.  Dos, like C and Perl is/was successful
because of the amount of software available for it.  It doesn't matter
what the software was written in.


> Like anything else, success of languages is mainly an advertizing thing.
> And there can be no doubt that Perl has won that one. (So has C++, which
> shouldn't have either, based on any technical merits.)

I wouldn't call it avertising, but I think I know what you're saying.  These
languages were "advertised" by other users because they worked.  They did
the job better than the other choices.

                                        Brian
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>>>>> "BCW" == Brian C White <bcwhite@verisim.com> wrote:

BCW> I don't see a problem with packages creating directories and
BCW> other necessary framework in /usr/local.  In some cases, this can
BCW> be quite complex and without which it isn't possible for there to
BCW> be "local" extensions.

Besides, it let the users know where to put their local elisp code,
Perl modules, etc.

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Package: cvs
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The initial format fails because it can't find the file `CVSvn.texi'.

(760) tex cvs.texinfo
This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1)
(cvs.texinfo
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Basics, fonts, page headings, tables, indexing, sectioning, toc printing,
environments, defuns, cross reference, and turning on texinfo input format.)kpathsea: Running MakeTeXTeX cvs.aux
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The result has some glitches (I assume because of the missing file),
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Not a big deal, but I thought I should mention it.

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The configuration of identd in inetd.conf is incorrect.  The incorrect line
is:

ident	stream	tcp	nowait	nobody	/usr/sbin/identd	identd -i

with the correct line being:

auth	stream	tcp	nowait	nobody	/usr/sbin/identd	identd -i

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bcwhite@verisim.com (Brian C. White)  wrote on 02.08.96 in <320196B7.5AF715CA@verisim.com>:

> > > I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> > > advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever
> > > been invented.
> >
> > And how much further would the industry be, if C had been typesafe (or
> > if some other, typesafe language had been used)?  The expertise in
> > language design existed at the time, but C didn't have it.
>
> There were typesafe languages in the time of C:  Pascal, Modula, etc.
>
> Where did they go?  They didn't go anywhere because they aren't useful
> in real applications.  Have you ever tried to write a dynamic skip-list
> in pascal?

Where did they go? They went and got some of the most popular  
implementations, ever.

Ever heard of Turbo Pascal/Borland Pascal/Delphi? (The names change, but  
it's essentially the same language.) When I have to program in the DOS  
world, I'm using that almost exclusively (both at home, and in a  
commercial environment). It's great for nearly everything you can do with  
C, only it's a lot easier to get right. (And yes, I have tried C in the  
same environment.)

There are even clones around - I know of at least four other compilers  
that claim some sort of compatibility with Borland's dialect. I'd love to  
have one for Linux.

The latest version can even implement a type-safe variant of printf.

Also, sometime, have a look at Modula-3. There's a free implementation  
made mostly by Dec (uses gcc as backend on most architectures).

> True, but it's more likely that much of the existing code would not have
> been written at all or would not be as functional.  Maintaing poorly
> structured code is hard, but not as hard as maintaining code that was
> kludged to get around limitations in the language.

I know of no language limitations in a decent, modern Pascal-style  
language - such as the Borland dialects or Modula-3 - that you'd need to  
kludge around, that are not also present in C.

People who say somehing like that usually think of the original Pascal  
version. Pascal-style languages have come a long, long way since then.  
Modern such languages include stuff like modularization, objects and  
exceptions, without having the syntactic and semantic mess of C++.

> > A language's success is typically 95% who backs it, and 5% how good it
> > is.  With the masses, that is.
>
> I disagree here, and MS-Dos is a great example.  It's not who backs it,
> but what.  Dos was backed by tonnes of software.  That's why it's still
> here.  Dos does the job; or did until fairly recently.

I don't see any important difference between these two paragraphs. The  
main point is that technical excellence is only a very small part in  
success.

> Yes!  Now define "good".  Good is how useful it is, not how how nicely
> it's designed.

Here's a major diagreement: nice design is an *important* part of  
usefulness.

It shows in such things as training costs, and ongoing development costs  
(for example, once you know the language, not only can you find errors far  
faster in a Pascal-style language than in C, there are whole classes of  
errors that the compiler catches that in C you'd need a debug session to  
find).

> But what is the cost of that move?  How many people have to be retrained?
> What are the advantages?  Do the advantages outweigh the costs?

Currently, probably not, in the case of Perl in Debian.

Let's keep an open mind, however, so that if this should change, we don't  
sleep through it.


MfG Kai


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warwick@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Warwick HARVEY)  wrote on 02.08.96 in <199608020745.RAA04679@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU>:

> Sure thing.  I'm not familiar with imap though, so could you give me a
> description for these to go in the list?

IMAP is to POP3 what Emacs is to ae.


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"Susan G. Kleinmann":
> a) can someone tell me what package/file/script does install /var/spool/mail?
>    (I'd use this info to find out why my search method failed.)

I would assume that it is either the initial installation, or smail/sendmail.

> c) Lars, what did you mean by saying "staying with rwxrwxrwt"?

I was hoping you would tell me. :-)

I was confused, ignore me.

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After forcing the removal of ae, /bin/edit was still installed, but
didn't call a suitable replacement editor such as vi.


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>>>>> "EB" == Erick Branderhorst <branderh@iaehv.nl> wrote:

EB>  babel: Support for multilingual typesetting with (La)TeX
EB> Changes: 
EB>  Fri Aug  2 13:21:27 1996  Erick Branderhorst  <branderh@debian.org>
EB>  .
EB>         * debian.rules: changed for processing in subdir babel
EB>         * added latin1.sty: Michael Meskens requested

What is wrong with 

\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}

?

Compatibility with 2.09?

Emilio.

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>>>>> "EB" == Erick Branderhorst <branderh@iaehv.nl> wrote:

EB> I load hilit19.el in my .emacs but when not under X this error occurs.

EB> Loading hilit19...
EB> Error in init file: error: "X windows are not in use or not initialized"

Maybe that's why the documentation at the beggining of hilit19.el says
to probe for X using "(cond (window-system ...))":


(cond (window-system
        (setq hilit-mode-enable-list  '(not text-mode)
              hilit-background-mode   'light
              hilit-inhibit-hooks     nil
              hilit-inhibit-rebinding nil)

        (require 'hilit19)
        ))


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OVER 16 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   660 gdb        GDB gets address of structure  David Engel <david@ods.com>
   725 xbase      twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   740 xbase      xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   773 xbase      xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   775 xbase      twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o

OVER 15 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   797 termcap-co /etc/termcap console keydefs f Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
   818 bash       bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
   820 tcsh       tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
   821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
   825 trn        trn warning messages corrupt t jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
   836 termcap-co Possible bugs in termcap syste Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 14 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   887 xarchie    xarchie barfs when ftp closes  Christian Linhart <chris@debian
   889 info       Info 3.1-6                     Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
   902 lpr        lpr can't print a PostScript f Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
   911 libc4      libc causes rsh to fail on com (unknown -- `libc')
   957 dpkg       dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam

OVER 13 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
   998 boot-flopp Can't Configure DOS Partitions Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1009 bash       bash problem with quoting/comp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1016 procps     top has 3's in vt100           Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1037 dpkg       dselect user interface (was Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1045 termcap-co tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd) Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1061 lpr        /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde

OVER 12 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1099 perl       perl bug                       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1108 binutils   No manpage ar(5)               David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1112 gsfonts    a2gs output unusable by gs but joost witteveen <joostje@master
  1118 fortune    fortune is setuid games ?!     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1130 libc4      Stdlib.h problems when using g (unknown -- `libc')
  1164 shellutils who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1170 perl       perl fails to make headers fir Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1176 procps     /usr/bin/top segfault with unk Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1201 perl       perl doesn't know about includ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1211 libc4      libc __nis_getgrnam() segfault (unknown -- `libc')

OVER 11 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1233 ifrench    Bad french.hash file in ifrenc (orphan)
  1239 findutils  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  1240 procps     ps(1) man page incomplete      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1246 procps     ps man page does not agree wit Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1247 perl       perl <...> globbing only works Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1265 uucp       Misc. uucp bugs                dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1275 xarchie    xarchie clumsy with 2-button m Christian Linhart <chris@debian
  1278 libc4      dpkg seg faults with NIS       (unknown -- `libc')
  1279 libc4      Strangeness involving <bsd/sig (unknown -- `libc')
  1281 bin86      bin86                          (unknown -- `bin')
  1292 xserver-sv X locks up                     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1303 binutils   `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1314 ncurses3.0 ncurses fails in silly way on  (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1336 procps     CFLAGS shouldn't be used when  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1366 acm        acm networking problems        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  1372 boot-flopp rootdisk: no dvorak keytable   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1378 libc4      weird ELF/a.out difference     (unknown -- `libc')
  1381 workbone   workbone postinst fails        dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1399 dpkg       dselect error handling not con Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1406 dbackup    backup postrm can fail when it dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1411 perl       perlconfig misses an opportuni Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1429 bibtex, kp several TeX packages Provide t Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1451 ghostview  `ghostviewR6' conflict with gh Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1467 ax25-kerne `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-ut (unknown -- `ax')
  1480 dpkg       start-stop-daemon doesn't chec Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1481 smail      smail paniclog suggestion      Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1488 dld        dld control file dsccription p gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  1502 ltxtool lt Uniform lists in debian.contro Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1526 dpkg       man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1532 repair     no revision number with repair Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1533 procps     `w' produces bogus login@, idl Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1549 bash       bash should not have world-rea Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1555 dpkg       dselect per-screen-half focus  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1560 shellutils `su' produces incomplete log e daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1616 shellutils 'who' can't find utmp          daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1621 xbase      Xmark has no manpage           Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1624 bash       thermal run away problem       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1642 dpkg       dpkg recursive package listing Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1647 texbin     dpkg can present incorrect inf Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1653 texbin     Missing dvicopy(1) man page.   Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1663 texbin     TeX comes without configuratio Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1664 texbin     TeX is lacking documentation o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1670 dpkg       start-stop-daemon is too slow  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1672 ftp.debian non-free packages              Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1681 cron       Missing files                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1685 libc4      dpkg-split --msdos not correct (unknown -- `libc')
  1686 mfbin      psfonts.map can't be found     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1690 xbase      XDM protection fault on X conf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1691 xbase      X config allows invalid numeri Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1693 smail      forwarded message from Harald  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1699 base       Install/Config quirks: Missing Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1702 bash       telnet+su root->thermal proces Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1703 xtron      xtron documentation            Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  1707 kernel     image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1708 adduser? m `passwd' not interruptible whe Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1711 adduser    adduser replaces NIS entries i Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1713 procps     procps: manpage doesn't tell t Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1714 bash       bash is confused when breaking Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1742 base       /dev/tty has wrong permissions Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1744 kernel     dpkg: cannot scan updates dire Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1746 bash       rsh <system> sh -i produces CP Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1747 nas        nas: no manpages for au availa Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  1759 kernel     running out of swap causes dea Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1767 cern-httpd cern-httpd installation        Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1771 ltxtool    Legal problems with ltxtool    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1774 libc4      <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH conta (unknown -- `libc')
  1791 dosemu     dosemu troubles                Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  1796 xserver-s3 missing call to ntohs in X ser (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  1797 dpkg       upgrade/downgrade dependency c Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1799 smail      smail nameresloving problems   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1803 termcap-co /etc/termcap linux definition  Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1818 dpkg       configure ordering based on Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1819 xbase      X11 doesn't set a lock on the  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1823 texbin     texbin postinst failed with er Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1831 pgp-i      pgp-i bug..                    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1834 bash       [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1845 trn        dead.letter and dead.article a jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  1853 procps     top fails after 130 processes? Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1855 base       packages adding entries to /et Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1856 perl       creating perl header files     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1858 kpathsea   kpathsea package does not inst Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1865 kpathsea   cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable:  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1873 dvipsk     dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize! Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1874 a2ps       a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!   (unknown -- `a')
  1879 emacs      Emacs shell mode weirdness - l Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  1881 majordomo  Majordomo UID wrong?           Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1885 base       base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1901 kbd        `compose' keytable command not Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  1908 procps     Top and tabs                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1914 kernel     general protection in unix_pro Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1916 perl       perl: wrong entries in Config. Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1921 dpkg       update-alternatives prompt, dp Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1922 kernel     1.3.43 Kernel is too nice      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1929 smail      aliasinclude and forwardinclud Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1933 procps     w from procps gives wrong idle Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1934 mfbin      font scaling problem           Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1954 base       setting up the network         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1955 base       base discs still aren't creati Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1962 kernel     kernel needs sbpcd.h editing i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1972 perl       perl should suggest kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1973 workbone   workbone postinst needs reword dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1981 xcontrib   xman fails to format ascii(7)  Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  1984 workbone   dpkg won't install cdtool      dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1985 xbase      xdm won't redirect to remote m Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1989 kernel     mmap bug?                      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1995 cron       run-parts on laptops           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1997 ncurses3.0 ncurses linux terminal definit (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2001 base       Incorrect ownership of audio d Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2009 mailx      mailx ignores ^C at Subject pr Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2010 mailx      mailx misses VM-generated From Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2011 libc4      very silly messages from rsh   (unknown -- `libc')
  2022 general    utmp corruption                debian-devel@pixar.com
  2023 texbin     latex dumps core on -QUIT      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2027 kpathsea   tiny bug in web2c debian.rules Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2037 bibtex     bibtex not searching $TEXINPUT Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2038 texbin     tex man page has unexpanded ma Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2039 xserver-ma X server font erosion          (unknown -- `xserver-mach')
  2051 xntp       /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handl Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2052 cron       find over NFS                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2054 latex,xdvi no subject (file transmission) Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2063 kernel     scsi driver sequence unreasona Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2064 kernel     aha1740 driver only supports o Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2067 lynx       lynx -source can't find docume Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2068 shellutils su doesn't su.                 daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2070 base       /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2076 ncurses-bi reset(1)                       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2085 ncurses3.0 /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs C (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2099 ax25-util  slip module stops axattach     (unknown -- `ax')
  2104 dvipsk     dvips doesn't provide color    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2105 kernel     console error messages "Source Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2110 bash       Bash tab completion of non alp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2112 inn        Submission for INN doc file    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2122 xdvik      xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2158 ncurses-te new ncurses bug ?              Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2159 procps     "ps pids" lists more than just Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2161 binutils   elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld ca David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2167 timezone   timezone zdump for US zones gi Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2169 timezone   timezone zdump utility should  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2170 timezone   timezone: it needs more docume Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2171 timezone   timezone: how to determine zon Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2177 strace     "strace -ff -o file dpkg --ins Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  2182 perl       perl shouldn't touch /usr/loca Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2183 emacs      emacs shouldn't touch /usr/loc Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2184 perl       perl's sys/socket.ph causes wa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2185 mflib      texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?   Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2186 texlib     national hyphenation patterns  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2196 ytalk      ytalk `shell' option can't run Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2197 hdparm     hdparm -c switch               Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  2198 uucp       uuxqt can't execute rmail      dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2200 ghostview  Description                    Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2205 most       Description                    Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  2206 rsynth     Description                    Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  2209 dld        Description                    gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2211 auto-pgp   Description                    Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  2217 kbd        loadkeys problem               Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  2220 inn        INN feed password interacts ba Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2231 mathpad    mathpad problems               Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2233 groff      groff-1.09-4                   Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2235 emacs      emacs eats manual pages        Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2238 kbd        another loadkeys problem       Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  2241 perl       Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2242 mc (Midnig mc should depend on ncurses3.0 Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2243 xbase      xterm vanishes when it's big ( Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2251 perl       Perl coredumps while invoking  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2254 perl       perl doesn't initialize variab Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2265 bash       bash `horizontal scroll' can't Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2267 emacs      emacs ange ftp fails           Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2268 cern-httpd stale documentation links      Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2275 timezone   ctime(3) should be replaced by Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2284 mailx      mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends m Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2291 ncurses3.0 missing terminfo capabilities  (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 5 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2292 shellutils date does not support dates pa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2293 uucp       uucp should compress big files dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2295 lynx       (no subject)                   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2296 bugs.debia debian-bugs WWW doesn't say ho Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2297 xbase      xterm gets mouse-paste and RET Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2298 trn        trn bug with shell escaping    jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  2301 bash       bash doesn't document any way  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2302 rcs        RCS - problems with msdos file Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2304 mount      umount calls gethostbyname() a Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2309 adduser    Multiple root accounts         Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  2311 svgalib1-b svgalib has undocumented setui (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2313 xbase      xterm keymapping problems susp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2318 emacs      Emacs makes it hard for MTAs t Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2321 libc5 (and libc doesn't use **h_aliases ( (unknown -- `libc')
  2334 mh         MH scan -width dumps core      Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2338 cron       finds in cron.daily should be  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2345 shellutils Inclusion of shadow breaks up  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2346 mh         MH can lose mail               Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2348 smail      Smail fails to define NO_PETER Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2353 xterm-colo postrm script broken           Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2356 mailx      mailx -- problems with TMPDIR  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2357 dvipsk     dvipsk generated PS causes `re Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2360 xbase      xdm cannot find a free VT      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2362 bash       bash (readline) dumps core on  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2365 pine       Pine erases message before I c Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2367 pine       Pine supplies PATH line when p Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2379 svgalib1   svgalib postinst broken        (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2382 nvi        would like `view' link for nvi Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2387 libc5-dev  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documente (unknown -- `libc')
  2392 emacs      Emacs mishandles fonts under X Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2402 procps     ps no longer understands `g' o Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2405 perl       perl postinst messages re unct Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2417 emacs      emacs inferior process buffers Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2423 smail      scattered sendmail links       Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2425 ispell     ispell thinks `formated' is co Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  2426 apache     apache overwrites existing hom Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2427 procps     top d 60 fails                 Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2428 nvi        nvi segmentation faults        Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2430 kermit     kermit configuration script is (unknown -- `kermit')
  2431 emacs      Emacs mishandles X fonts.      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2439 sysvinit   rc?.d scripts sometimes not ru Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2440 perl       sys/socket.ph produces spuriou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2450 cdtool     `cdir' prints out huge chunks  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2455 svgalib1   can't install svgalib1-1.28-5  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2460 procps     bizarre output from `free'     Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2463 kernel     "msdos" filesystem needed for  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2470 kernel     in kernel Attached ether adapt Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec

OVER 4 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2474 ncurses-bi /usr/bin/reset does the wrong  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2475 at         `at' uses middle-endian 2-digi Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2476 emacs      emacs mucks up my email addres Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2477 emacs      annoying bug in emacs          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2478 emacs      ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2479 emacs      ange-ftp is incredibly ineffic Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2481 general    /sbin/ldconfig in scripts      debian-devel@pixar.com
  2483 libdb1     libdb1 uses not-yet-completely (unknown -- `libdb')
  2484 libgdbm1   libgdbm1 conflicts with some v (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  2486 xwpe       Ghost packages                 dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  2493 gcc        GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied e David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2495 perl       perl requires tcsh (as it is c Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2497 amd        Fixes for amd-upl102           Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  2501 perl       (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2502 perl       configure fails if /vmlinuz is Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2503 elv-ctags  elvis and emacs both provide c mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill
  2504 libdb1     remove -m486 from Makefile     (unknown -- `libdb')
  2510 rxvt       rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2520 procps     procps needs dependency on ncu Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2524 base       problems with base package     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2530 bind       bind locks up system           Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2531 dpkg       install-info should use better Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2532 emacs      Emacs fails to use `set -e' in Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2536 dpkg       dpkg inappropriately marks pac Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2538 base       audio devices have different g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2542 netatalk   No default config files?       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2547 tf         tf does not support visual mod Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2556 lpr        "\031\1"                       Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2557 elm        add to elm manpage             Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2562 elm        elm manpage paths incorrect    Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2569 boot-flopp bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2573 libc5-dev  sysinfo system call not in lib (unknown -- `libc')
  2575 ytalk      ytalk lies about who you are t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2576 dpkg       base: selecting [A]ccess with  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2589 perl       perl can't load libdb.so.1     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2590 perl       new revision of perl does not  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2591 dialog     rootdisk                       David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2592 elvisnox   Elvis Compilation Peoblem      sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  2593 perl       perl tries to install in /usr/ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2603 dpkg       dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when inst Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2604 ash        ash: cc: Internal compiler err Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2605 ifrench    #1233,#1793 (ifrench doesn't w (orphan)
  2610 libg++27   support for m68k-linux         (unknown -- `libg++')
  2621 texbin     unstable/texbin install fails  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2630 emacs      emacs package needs to break c Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2634 emacs      emacs hung                     Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2648 mh                                        Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2650 win32binut win32binutils has /usr/bin/fle (unknown -- `win')
  2658 perl       Errors during perlconfig       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 3 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2661 mh         dist and mh both have a dist m Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2664 dpkg       arrow keys fail in dselect not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2671 timezone   timezone Mexico/General doesn' Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2682 timezone   Zoneinfo library has a name-cl Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2688 base       base: wrong group for rft* dev Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2689 xemacs     (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2690 netatalk   netatalk: a few small problems Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2691 perl       new perl break suid scripts    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2692 kernel     kernel swap space problem      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2699 ytalk      ytalk doesn't use FQDNs        Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2701 seyon      seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't wo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2703 apache     apache: wrong location of icon Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2709 emacs      emacs should list /usr/lib/ema Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2710 xterm-colo colour xterm has problems when Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2714 emacs      Emacs and XEmacs share files   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2717 general    conffiles in /usr              debian-devel@pixar.com
  2721 procps     free fails to understand recen Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2728 procps     top coredump                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2731 emacs      emacs with gud creates ~/.term Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2733 mailx      /usr/bin/mail leaves lock file Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2737 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv: missing source  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2738 boot-flopp Installing Debian 1.1          Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2739 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2740 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2741 base       First booting with Debian 1.1  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2758 dld        dld: missing source file       gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2762 ax25-kerne ax25-kernel-source: missing so (unknown -- `ax')
  2764 texpsfnt   texpsfnt: missing source file  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2765 ax25-util  ax25-util: missing source file (unknown -- `ax')
  2774 syslinux   syslinux: missing source file  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2785 timezone   Timezone has static library?   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2789 elm        elm doesn't show rest of pgp-s Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2796 sysvinit   sysvinit makes obsolete symbol Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2797 nvi        nvi dumped core?               Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2802 apache     apache tweaks                  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2803 xdvik      xdvi does not handle redraws o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2806 ncurses3.0 ncurses man pages internal inc (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2808 cron       wrong crontab entry for atrun  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2810 uucp       uucp postrm should use -f flag dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2812 apache     Apache server: SECURITY HOLE   Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2814 apache     Apache 1.0.3: wrong manpage    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2818 bash       bash doesn't provide enough do Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2819 bind       named loses (in an easily fixe Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2822 inn        Some minor glitches with the i Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2823 mc         mc segfaults on reconnect of f Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2825 nvi        restricted movement in nvi     Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2828 dpkg       have to install xosview twice  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2829 emacs      emacs: gdb says: slashes aren' Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2832 nvi        nvi likes turning auto-margins Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2834 dpkg       desect loses state if it can't Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2839 xemacs     Xemacs problems                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2840 base       Conflicting entries in login/g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2841 procps     top produces `$<3>' at end of  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2850 boot-flopp nfs.o isn't loaded in clean de Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2852 g77        Bug 2711: g77 does not include (unknown -- `g')
  2855 nvi        nvi changes xterm settings...  Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2856 bash       fd leak in bash                Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2861 manpages   glob(3) references glob(7); th Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  2863 ncurses-ba dselect and ncurses in select  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2868 amd        amd hangs on tcsh hostname com Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  2870 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug             awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2872 apache     Apache starts several times    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2874 gpm        gpm will not work if the syste Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2876 svgalib1   svgalib will not work in a set (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2884 tkman      tkman doesn't use /var/catman  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2889 base       no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 bo Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2891 taper      taper documentation is missing Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  2892 setserial  setserial marked as Essential  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  2894 dpkg       dpkg guidelines info files not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2895 base       base -- incorrect passwd entry Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2896 libdb1     postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libdb')

Over two months old - attention is required:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2899 libreadlin postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libreadline')
  2904 dpkg       install-info doesn't cope with Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2906 glibcdoc   Inconsistency in libc.info re  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2908 sysvinit   mesg sets wrong permissions on Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2909 gcc        GCC Info has funny formatting  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2910 gcc        GCC accepts multi-line strings David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2911 dpkg       Conffiles are deleted too late Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2913 ipx        ipx bootup scripts are broken  mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  2919 fort77     very bad fort77 installation m (unknown -- `fort')
  2920 base       incorrect entry for nobody in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2923 cdtool     CD-ROM device /dev/hdc permiss dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2926 lilo       Lilo: can't make documentation Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2927 base       /usr/info/dir in base confuses Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2928 base       nobody has wrong login shell   Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2929 dpkg       dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.     Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2933 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002      awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2934 apache     Some cgi scripts don't work    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2937 bootdisk   Copyright message function key Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2938 procps     libproc is in wrong place      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2939 dpkg       Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2940 kernel     image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2941 ftp.debian lots of hyphens in archive     Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2942 timezone?, Wrong timezone for Europe/Wars Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2945 rootdisk   Bus Error given by rootdisk    Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  2946 lynx       Lynx gives fatal error message Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2956 bootdisk   beta experience                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2959 shellutils date +%Z bug                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2962 ncurses3.0 dselect arrow keys don't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2964 lynx       lynx -dump fails through proxy Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2965 lynx       lynxexec not compiled into lyn Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2966 bugs.debia bugs2ftp is broken             Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2969 man        zsoelim [in man] is confused b Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  2970 groff      soelim [in groff] is confused  Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2971 mailx      mailx doesn't quit on two succ Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2972 mfbin      MetaFONT linked against X libr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2973 dpkg       install-info created 5 Develop Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2975 base       [base] missing /dev entries    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2978 base       May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[3 Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2982 xntp       xntp calls ntpdate at start    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2989 rxvt       rxvt source bug                Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2991 elm        nfrm is not installed...       Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2998 bugs.debia bugs2ftp still flaky           Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  3002 base       majordomo has conflicting grou Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3019 kernel     no 386 support in kernel_image Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3026 xbase      xbase et al postinst doesn't f Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3027 base       updatedb can't run properly    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3031 boot-flopp various boot-floppies nits     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3035 nvi        nvi dumps core                 Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3036 base       automatic adduser/addgroup in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3038 lpr        SOLVED: can't remove print job Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3039 base       MAKEDEV script does not create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3040 kernel     Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3042 elm        Elm produces bogus Content-Typ Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3046 smail      Smail configuration problem?   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3047 cron       cron script problem?           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3050 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser man page installed  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3052 guile      guile is missing slib.info.gz  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3053 gnats      gnats: typo in postinst omits  bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. Whi
  3056 ash        ash-source contains objects    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3060 sysklogd   problems with new sysklogd-1.3 Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3064 boot-flopp need a pointer in /usr/doc/boo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3066 general    a.out binaries in various pack debian-devel@pixar.com
  3067 xaw3d      broken libXaw3d                (unknown -- `xaw')
  3070 base       base copyright string          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3073 xbase      xbase contains imake and xmkmf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3075 lpr, magic lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts fa Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3077 mfbin      gray font .mf files missing fr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3080 procps     error message in syslog caused Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3084 timezone   missing timezones              Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3087 shellutils Bug in date.                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3093 perl       Perl dumps core                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3095 xbase      xbase kills xdm and *then* ask Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3096 lxtools    lxtools: user error (misuse of Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3098 man        man-2.3.10-11 segfaults        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3099 cron       /etc/cron.daily/standard secur Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3102 procps     top has problems when not on c Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3103 sysklogd   "/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart" Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3105 lynx       lynx access to dot files is di Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3106 kernel     v 1.1 beta kernel image not fo Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3107 nas        nas postinst could use a warni Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3108 snmp       snmpd provides too much inform David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3109 man        man 9menu unpleasant           Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3110 xbase?     X servers muck up xdm when uni Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3112 uucp       UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3113 ncurses3.0 dselect provokes ncurses probl (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3114 cron       cron.daily/standard script     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3115 taper      taper recommends ftape         Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3119 emacs      emacs font handling            Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3121 boot-flopp boot-floppies doesn't have bas Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3122 debianutil run-parts should ignore RCS    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3124 cern-httpd CERN httpd sends useless cron  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3125 dpkg       bug (and correction) in dpkg-1 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3128 mc         mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3130 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3135 psnfss     psnfss has no Architecture fie Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3140 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bug Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3142 rootdisk   1.1 installation and large par Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3143 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3146 base, ae   1.1 installation: ae doesn't w Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3147 rootdisk   May 19 boot floppies...        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3148 cron       Cron: Cannot stat in /var/spoo Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3149 base       upgrading base truncates utmp  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3151 sendmail   Sendmail runs too late         Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3153 inn        inn ctlinnd not readable/execu Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3155 spice      spice still on my system       (unknown -- `spice')
  3156 lpr        lpr and smail uuname returned  Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3158 most       most differs from man page     Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3161 general    Newbie 1.1beta installation.   debian-devel@pixar.com
  3162 xbase      disconnects between ncurses-ba Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3163 ncurses-ba disconnects between ncurses-ba Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3164 smail      runq dumps core                Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3165 manpages   fcntl(2) references nonexisten Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3166 nvi        SIGSEGV on TERM=dumb           Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3169 genscript  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papers Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3170 dpkg       again dpkg --root=xxx          Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3174 bash       set -i doesn't work in bash    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3176 mandelspaw mandelspawn slave problems     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3177 bash       sh -nc <command> actually runs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3179 emacs      emacs ctags segfaults          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3180 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml semantics and fo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3182 cron       cron's checksecurity runs find Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3183 base       permissions problems with /var Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3185 bootdisk   Lack of NCR53c810 support on b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3186 xfractint  Can't chdir                    Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3189 nvi        nvi over-cautious about .exrc? Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3190 libc5      rlogin takes far too long when (unknown -- `libc')
  3191 ncurses-bi reset(1) doesn't bring an xter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3192 ncurses-bi tset(1) man page problem       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3195 kernel     "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fail Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3196 ispell     ispell symlinks broken         Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  3197 procmail   wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/proc Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3198 dviljk     dviljk is still aout! :-(      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3199 lists.debi Bizarre message from debian-de Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3202 dviljk     dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! : Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

Over one month old:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3206 rc         rc terminates on CTRL-C        Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3207 ncurses3.0 strange screen update choices  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3208 amd        amd bug                        Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3212 perl       Perl recommends nonexistent pa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3213 fortune    fortune need libc.so.4         dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3216 auto-pgp   auto-pgp doesn't remove info e Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3218 dpkg       install-info adds Miscellaneou Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3220 man        apropos dumps core             Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3223 guile      guile installs entry for slib, Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3224 apsfilter  apsfilter doesn't configure on Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3225 dpkg       dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems fr Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3227 login      login refuses, and then allows Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3230 perl       why the hell does perl depend  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3231 base       /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not pr Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3233 dpkg       dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2n Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3234 nvi        nvi segfaults if stty rows 0 c Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3235 nvi        nvi gives unhelpful message fo Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3240 libdb1     [libdb]: obsolete bugfix       (unknown -- `libdb')
  3241 emacs      derived.el fails in emacs      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3242 perl       perl's dependencies are wrong  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3244 libc5      (no subject)                   (unknown -- `libc')
  3245 mc         mc should depend on gpm        Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3246 xcompat    Cant load library libXt.so.6   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3247 lilo       Lilo unpack removes boot.b     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3250 cfingerd   cfingerd descriptive text      Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3252 base       base template /usr/info/dir ma Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3253 pine       Pine over-encodes files (came  Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3258 kernel     pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3259 util-linux [c]fdisk does not recognize NE Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3260 procps     psupdate man page out of date  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3265 kernel     kernel-image and PS/2 mouse pr Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3267 xbase      Unqualified hostnames in rstar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3268 kernel     network modules don't work wit Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3269 bootdisk   bootdisk silently fails-change Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3272 rootdisk   bug in root disks...           Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3275 kernel     dpkg --no-act leaves control i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3277 perl       nit: perl setup emits a \n     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3279 bootdisk/r ne2000 lockups during instalat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3280 gpm        (no subject)                   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3283 perl       /usr/bin/perlconfig should be  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3284 giftrans   giftrans is free               Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3287 maelstrom  (no subject)                   Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3290 sysvinit   sysvinit path doesn't include  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3292 xcal       xcal app-defaults shouldn't be Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3295 perl       perls debian.rules doesn't wor Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3296 perl       /bin/perl is not updated       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3300 xserver-sv xserver-svga configuration     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3302 cron       savelog seems to be missing fr Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3304 rman       [rman] Off-by-one in generated Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3305 dchanges   dchanges: urg= override is ign awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3307 ddd-smotif ddd-smotif does not replace dd Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3308 xmanpages  X(1) manpage in wrong place?   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3312 mathpad    installation and startup probl Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3314 base       On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3315 base       Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3317 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml info files are m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3319 deliver    deliver does not set exit code Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3320 bootdisk   Kernel oops - problem with APM Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3321 libgdbm1   libgdbm.so version number...   (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3323 mflib      MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3324 sysklogd   Non-existant conffile not crea Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3327 cern-httpd cern-httpd postinst hangs if d Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3328 gawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3330 gcc        Problems encountered while com David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3335 libdb1     Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libdb')
  3336 less       Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3338 libc5      Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libc')
  3340 metamail   Problems encountered while com Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3342 libgdbm1   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3345 libreadlin Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libreadline')
  3348 patch      Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3349 procmail   Problems encountered while com Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3350 procps     Problems encountered while com Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3351 diff       Problems encountered while com Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3353 bash       Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3358 cron       Problems encountered while com Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3359 shellutils Problems encountered while com daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3361 byacc      Problems encountered while com dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3362 mingetty   Problems encountered while com Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  3363 timezone   Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3364 symlinks   Problems encountered while com Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet
  3366 smail      Problems encountered while com Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3368 cron       cron's checksecurity still sca Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3370 cern-httpd httpdconfig installs Welcome.h Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3372 mgetty     mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3373 gpm        gpm -k hangs if X server runni Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3374 cvs        CVS wrappers can't be turned o Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3377 gimp-dmoti gimp's sample .gimprc does not Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3378 gimp-dmoti gimp should put a .gimprc in / Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3382 workbone   workbone disappears during upg dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3383 kbd        kbd bogosity                   Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3384 apache     apache leaves /var/log/httpd n Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3385 xosview    xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (agai joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3386 lynx       lynx version number changes    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3387 base       base leaves /tmp/base.postinst Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3393 kernel     printer-driver problem in kern Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3394 at         /etc/crontab has a bad entry   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3395 xbase      can't login via xdm            Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3396 tcsh       tcsh doesn't provide c-shell   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3397 kernel     (no subject)                   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3400 emacs      gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-1 Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3406 dpkg       dselect unreadable under xterm Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3407 fvwm2      fvwm2: WindowList infelicity   Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3408 passwd     Various bugs in passwd manpage Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3409 base       Could not make boot floppy     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3410 dpkg       some problems/bugs/suggestions Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3413 pcb        linked with aout libXaw        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3415 latex      Xdvi and postscript fonts      Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3420 rootdisk   Boot disk creats corrupted fil Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3421 base       /tmp installs wrongly          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3422 ncurses3.0 termcap entry too long error   (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3423 perl       Problems installing kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3431 www.debian some packages have no informat Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3433 cfingerd   weird output if cfingerd.conf: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3434 perl       pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cu Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3437 fvwm       fvwm should not recommend fvwm Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3439 login      Login reconfigures serial port Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3442 python     python postinst is very verbos Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3445 amd        bug in amd package (upgrade)   Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3447 wu-ftpd    Wu-ftpd prompts for installati Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3448 apache     Apache purge gives several err Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3451 rootdisk   Missing label 'llseek' in e2fs Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3454 ucbmpeg    ucbmpeg control file problems  Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3456 a2gs       a2gs prompt looks like `please (unknown -- `a')
  3457 diald      diald control file problems    Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3458 dviljk     dviljk missing prompt for inpu Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3459 inn        inn should Depend on inewsinn, Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3462 inn        INN postinst and configuration Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3466 tcsh, csh  tcsh, csh should use update-al Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3467 cern-httpd cern-httpd curious message     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3468 textfm, te textfm and texlib file conflic Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3469 lynx       lynx default home page         Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3470 apache     apache problems                Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3471 wu-ftpd    wu-ftpd postinst question aske Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3475 xpaint     xpaint Recommends pbmplus      Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3476 cnews      cnews description is gibberish Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3477 cnews, ine cnews and inews should be same Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3478 bind       bind should use lowercase `non Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3480 mkisofs    missing information in manpage Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3483 enscript   using args with spaces in gens (unknown -- `enscript')
  3484 manpages   broken reference to (un)link(8 Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3486 cern-httpd forwarded message from Cron Da Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3488 rootdisk   basedisks modconf problems     Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3489 rootdisk   basedisks configuration proble Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3490 adduser    adduser password-setting probl Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3491 rootdisk   basedisks newly booted system  Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3493 base       Teles ISDN card installation b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3494 manpages   ftw(3) typos                   Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3495 npasswd_bo doesn't respect nis/yp         Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3496 cron       checksecurity patch for nfs mo Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3497 smail      smail calls obsolete yp_order  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3503 uucp       still a.out (and src doesn't b dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3505 bind       ndc does not use start-stop-da Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3507 bind       named postinst mangled my conf Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3508 guile      guile doesn't have right permi Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3509 ucbmpeg    mpeg_play puts bogus statistic Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3510 nas        removal of nas doesn't kill 'a Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3511 debianutil typo on installkernel man page Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3514 dialog     Required package modconf depen David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3515 gdb        gdb prints corrupted message   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3516 kernel     SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can ca Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec

Submitted in the last month:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3517 inn        innd won't remove syslog.conf  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3521 mc         mc core dumps                  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3525 j1         j1 hard-linked docs/manpages   (unknown -- `j')
  3526 sysklogd   syslogd dumps core when no dom Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3529 ftp.debian libgr and zlib1 collide, but d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3530 dchanges   dchanges can create bad change awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3531 dchanges   dchanges should default to '-  awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3532 indent     Problems encountered while bui Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3533 rc         Problems encountered while bui Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3535 taper      Problems encountered while bui Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3538 bash       bash on m68k doesn't use ncurs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3539 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if an error occu Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3540 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a problem occ Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3541 libc5      rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED! (unknown -- `libc')
  3542 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3543 git        Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3544 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3545 pgp-i      Problems encountered while com Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3547 mc         Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3548 acm        acm description: no ext        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3550 amstex     amstex description: no ext     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3551 automake   automake description: summary  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3552 aout-binut aout-binutils description: no  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3553 aout-librl aout-librl description: no ext Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3554 bdflush    bdflush description: summary s Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3555 apache     apache description: ext extra  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3557 base       base description: no ext       Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3558 beav       beav description: ext extra sp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3559 acs        acs description: no ext        adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3561 bash       bash description: no ext       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3562 elviscmn   elviscmn description: no ext   sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  3565 dbview     dbview description: ext extra  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3566 dejagnu    dejagnu description: summary s Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3567 byacc      byacc description: no ext      dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3568 bin86      bin86 description: no ext      (unknown -- `bin')
  3569 emacs-el   emacs-el description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3571 fortune    fortune description: summary s dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3572 dld        dld description: ext start ind gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3573 diald      diald description: ext start b Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3574 binutils   binutils description: no ext   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3575 boot-flopp boot-floppies description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3578 dlltools   dlltools description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3580 f2c        f2c description: no ext        (unknown -- `f')
  3582 electric-f electric-fence description: no Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  3583 fort77     fort77 description: no ext     (unknown -- `fort')
  3584 g77        g77 description: ext start ind (unknown -- `g')
  3585 gimp-smoti gimp-smotif description: ext s Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3586 findutils  findutils description: no ext  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3587 gnuplot    gnuplot description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3588 git        git description: ext extra spa Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3590 libjpeg6a  libjpeg6a description: ext sta (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3592 ipx        ipx description: no ext        mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3594 gwm        gwm description: no ext        Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3595 grep       grep description: no ext       Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3596 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3598 ghostview  ghostview description: ext sta Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3599 gdb        gdb description: no ext        David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3600 gimp-dmoti gimp-dmotif description: ext s Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3601 minicom    minicom description: no ext    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3602 manpages-d manpages-de description: no ex Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3606 lynx       lynx description: ext extra sp Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3607 rc         rc description: no ext         Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3608 libjpeg6a- libjpeg6a-dev description: no  (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3609 shellutils shellutils description: no ext daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3610 xfntcyr    xfntcyr description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3611 libwww-per libwww-perl description: no ex Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3612 libdb1     libdb1 description: no ext     (unknown -- `libdb')
  3613 mh-papers  mh-papers description: no ext  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3614 symlinks   symlinks description: ext extr Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet
  3616 less       less description: ext extra sp Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3617 mawk       mawk description: ext extra sp Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3620 most       most description: summary star Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3621 lxtools    lxtools description: no ext    Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3626 libg++27   libg++27 description: no ext   (unknown -- `libg++')
  3628 modconf    modconf description: no ext    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3629 pmake      pmake description: no ext      Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3630 ncpfs      ncpfs description: summary sta mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3631 oleo       oleo description: no ext       Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3632 nis        nis description: summary start Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3634 nvi        nvi description: no ext        Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3635 pcb        pcb description: no ext        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3637 w3-el      w3-el description: no ext      (unknown -- `w')
  3638 setserial  setserial description: no ext  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3640 tkdesk     tkdesk description: ext start  Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3641 unarj      unarj description: ext start i Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.a
  3642 syslinux   syslinux description: no ext   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3643 taper      taper description: no ext      Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3644 procmail   procmail description: no ext   Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3645 slang-deve slang-devel description: ext e Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3647 timezone   timezone description: summary  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3649 win32libs  win32libs description: no ext  (unknown -- `win')
  3650 xfntbig    xfntbig description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3651 win32gcc   win32gcc description: no ext   (unknown -- `win')
  3653 win32binut win32binutils description: no  (unknown -- `win')
  3654 xcoral     xcoral description: summary st Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3655 wenglish   wenglish description: no ext   Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3657 xfnt100    xfnt100 description: no ext    (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3661 xlib       xlib description: no ext       Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3662 xslib      xslib description: no ext      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3663 xfntscl    xfntscl description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3664 workbone   workbone description: no ext   dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3665 xfnt75     xfnt75 description: no ext     (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3667 pico       pico description: no ext       Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3670 idanish    idanish description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3671 dosemu     dosemu description: no ext     Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3672 idutch     idutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3673 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3674 imapd      imapd description: no ext      Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3675 xwpe       xwpe description: no ext       dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3676 zoo        zoo description: summary start Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3677 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3678 xxgdb      xxgdb description: no ext      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3680 auto-pgp   auto-pgp description: ext star Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3681 tkman      tkman description: summary sta David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3682 wswedish   wswedish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3684 rsynth     rsynth description: summary st Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3686 ifrench    ifrench description: no ext    (orphan)
  3687 wfrench    wfrench description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3688 wnorwegian wnorwegian description: no ext jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3690 pine       pine description: no ext       Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3691 witalian   witalian description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3692 zip        zip description: no ext        Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3693 unzip      unzip description: no ext      Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3697 wdutch     wdutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3698 wspanish   wspanish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3699 xpaint     xpaint description: summary st Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3700 www.debian Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3703 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a permission  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3704 dpkg       Weird dselect behavior (bug?)  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3705 procmail   procmail does close(-1)        Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3707 elm        Problems encountered while com Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3709 ratfor77   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `ratfor')
  3711 uucp       Problems encountered while com dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3712 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3713 p2c        Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `p')
  3714 term       Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3717 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3718 ash        Problems encountered while com Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3720 shutdown   shutdown prints "You don't exi (unknown -- `shutdown')
  3721 termcap-co Problems while compiling "term Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  3724 libc5-dev  nlist() missing from libc      (unknown -- `libc')
  3725 man        Another data point on apropos  Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3726 ed         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3727 bc         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3728 ee         Problems while compiling "ee"  Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3729 nvi        Problems while compiling "nvi" Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3730 xbase      improper lookup of window mana Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3731 snmp       snmpd: patch for hrProcessorLo David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3733 compress-p problems with compress-package Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  3734 xbase et a X11 problems                   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3735 cern-httpd cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn o Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3737 xosview    xosview uses -O3 -f...         joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3739 man        `man -l -' for stdin doesn't w Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3740 modconf    A couple of problems popped up Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3742 tcpdump    tcpdump doesn't notice icmp pa Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3743 netpbm     Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3747 setserial  "setserial" doesn't support mu Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3748 fvwm       Pixmaps missing from fvwm pack Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3750 xserver-s3 X server inaccessible sometime (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  3751 xbase      xconsole stops logging when sy Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3752 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3753 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3754 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3755 xaw3d      xaw3d shouldn't automatically  (unknown -- `xaw')
  3756 sendmail   sendmail has wrong path to pro Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3759 ghostview  xxgdb and ghostview have bad M Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3760 gimp-dmoti gimp-[ds]motif recommend obsol Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3761 base       LILO installation problem      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3762 setserial  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usuall Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3765 dpkg       dpkg and kernel-* package name Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3766 man        "man" acting too smart.        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3769 sysklogd   problems with sysklogd postins Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3770 perl       dodgy `\n' in perl postinst    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3772 lilo       lilo should not depend on MBR  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3773 xless      xless default window too thin  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3775 login      upgrading login temporarily br Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3777 util-linux mkfs.minix option parsing oddi Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3782 bsdmainuti GNU nm breaks lorder           Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3784 perl       perl does not install on base  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3785 perl       perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") an Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3786 base       base includes anonymous ftp ac Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3787 tin        tin uses /etc/news/description Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3788 man        `apropos' matches only word-su Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3789 mbr        `mbr' package doesn't say how  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3791 cfingerd   Problems with "cfingerd" when  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3792 netpbm     Problems with "netpbm" when co Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3793 pmake      bsd.lib.mk incompatible with G Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3794 adduser    adduser should not be essentia Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3795 ae         ae should not be essential     Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3798 passwd     passwd should not be essential Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3799 timezone   timezone should not be essenti Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3800 setserial  setserial should not be essent Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3801 ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0 should not be essen (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3803 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3804 npasswd-bo npasswd-boulder doesn't change Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3805 base       /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3808 ppp        ppp postinst gives error       Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3809 base       /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still aro Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3810 ftp.debian linux.ucs.indiana.edu is no lo Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3812 apsfilter  Apsfilter should depend on fil Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3813 lilo       (no subject)                   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3814 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3815 bsdutils   "ndc stats" fails              Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3816 uucp       uucp is still a.out            dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3818 fortune    fortune is still a.out !       dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3823 gdb        Gdb's `handle' command behavio David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3824 exmh       exmh fails to start            Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  3825 libc5      %p either misbehaves or misdoc (unknown -- `libc')
  3827 tk40       Tk4.0's bell flashes the displ (unknown -- `tk')
  3829 ncurses-bi tic.1 refers to unavailable in Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3830 ncurses-bi captoinfo confused by /etc/ter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3832 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3833 nis        Manual pages for some yp* prog Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3834 squid      squid core dumps regularly     Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3835 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3837 xv         Why isn't xv linked with the l Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3838 gcc        GCC should depend on CPP, not  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3839 autoconf   autoconf wants `nawk'          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3842 tkdesk, tk tkdesksh grows really large    Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3843 ncurses-ba dselect resets automargins in  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3844 manpages   getpeername(2) man page does n Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3845 compface   invalid directories in compfac Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3846 lynx       lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3847 perl       Perl & G++                     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3848 a2gs       "a2gs" requires changes to sup (unknown -- `a')
  3849 acm        "acm" requires changes to supp Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3850 cern-httpd "cern-httpd" requires changes  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3851 acs        "acs" requires changes to supp adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3852 cnews      "cnews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3853 dld        "dld" requires changes to supp gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3855 fortune    "fortune" requires changes to  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3856 guille     "guile" requires changes to su (unknown -- `guille')
  3857 xcontrib   listres dumps core             Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3861 adduser    when adduser runs finger it di Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3862 inews      "inews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3865 j1         "j1" requires changes to suppo (unknown -- `j')
  3866 hdparm     "hdparm" requires changes to s Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  3869 nntp       "nntp" requires changes to sup Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3870 p2c        "p2c" requires changes to supp (unknown -- `p')
  3872 pcb        "pcb" requires changes to supp Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3873 xosview    Xosview hangs when a dummy net joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3874 perl       Archive of perl 5.003-2 is bro Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3875 lynx       Lynx thinks *.deb files are "t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3876 cron       checksecurity shouldn't search Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3877 svgalib1-d /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  3878 adduser    adduser --home aborts if dir e Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3879 adduser    adduser: man page has '=V' str Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3881 rspfd      "rspfd" requires changes to su Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3882 snmp       "snmp" requires changes to sup David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3884 tcl75      "tcl75" requires changes to su (unknown -- `tcl')
  3885 umsdos     "umsdos' requires changes to s Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3886 tf         "tf" requires changes to suppo Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3888 workbone   "workbone" requires changes to dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3890 uucp       "uucp" requires changes to sup dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3892 rootdisk   mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbo Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3895 mgetty, ne file conflicts: mgetty vs netp Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3896 mgetty     /sbin/mgetty is not world-read Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3897 mgetty     mgetty syslogs with priority ` Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3898 mgetty     mgetty has bogus errno in usag Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3899 mgetty     mgetty doesn't remove logfiles Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3900 mgetty     mgetty doesn't work            Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3901 tkmail     "dotlock" should be setgid mai Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3902 base       base disks' network configurat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3903 ftp.debian ae carriage return bug still e Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3904 ncurses3.0 ncurses on mono linux console  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3905 base       base disks still install part  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3906 xbase      Errors in the Compose file for Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3907 kbd        kbd postinst extremely verbose Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3908 perl       perl h2ph problem              Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3911 a2ps       "a2ps" requires changes for mu (unknown -- `a')
  3912 wnorwegian "wnorwegian" requires changes  jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3913 idanish    "idanish" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3914 wdutch     "wdutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3915 biff       "biff" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3916 unzip      "unzip" requires changes for m Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3917 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3918 ifrench    "ifrench" requires changes for (orphan)
  3919 tkman      "tkman" requires changes for m David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3921 kpathsea   "kpathsea" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3922 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3923 witalian   "witalian" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3924 vim        "vim" requires changes for mul dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  3925 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  3926 wspanish   "wspanish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3927 wfrench    "wfrench" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3928 wswedish   "wswedish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3929 cdtool     "cdtool" requires changes for  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  3930 giftrans   "giftrans" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3931 idutch     "idutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3932 rsynth     "rsynth" requires changes for  Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3934 zip        "zip" requires changes for mul Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3936 uucp       uutraf dumps core in gmtime()  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3937 uucp       uutraf has repeated words in m dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3939 man        /etc/manpath.config is not a c Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3940 apache     Apache's default index.html sa Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3941 CGI-module CGI-modules should *depend* on Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilg
  3942 tin        tin cannot find Newsgroup Desc Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3944 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  3946 ae         "zyxel" requires changes for m Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3949 dump       "dump" requires changes for mu David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  3950 inn        INN message size limitation to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3951 kernel-ima Package 'kernel-image-2.' V2.0 (unknown -- `kernel-image-')
  3952 less       Less annoyances                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3953 tk41       Tk 4.1's bell flashes the disp (unknown -- `tk')
  3954 xcontrib   xload dont needs tu run suid   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3955 bison      yacc script uses $* instead of Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  3957 grep       Debian 1.1: bug in /etc/init.d Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3960 kernel-pac Amusing typo in make-kpkg manp Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debi
  3961 zoo        14 character file name limit i Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3962 pixmap     Pixmap "calloc" problem        joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3963 abuse      abuse                          Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3966 bind       nslookup: fatal flex scanner i Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3967 nvi        hex codes instead of 8-bit cha Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3968 rootdisk   installation checks for CD-ROM Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3969 apache     Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole     Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3970 cvs        cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3973 nvi        Home/End keys don't work right Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3974 ncurses3.0 problem with arrow keys in dse (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3975 netpbm     netpbm is mostly free          Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3978 lists.debi problem (re)subscribing to deb Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3979 libc5-dev  <linux/if_arp.h> needs further (unknown -- `libc')
  3980 netstd     netstd many compiler warnings  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3983 base       Wrong entry in /etc/group      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3984 libc5      NIS writes error message to ST (unknown -- `libc')
  3985 kbd        Wrong parameter type in src/ge Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3986            inconsistency between base and (unknown)
  3988 kbd        Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard m Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3989 procps     `w' produces corrupted output  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3990 xbase      xdm-errors location not what F Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3991 dselect    dselect has confusing and biza (unknown -- `dselect')
  3992 dpkg       install-info shouldn't try to  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3993 mount      users can't umount user mounts Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3994 base       ae won't deinstall             Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3996 netstd     rdate.8 refers to adjtime(2)   Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3999 kernel     nfs module fails to load       Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  4000 emacs      emacs can't initialize x windo Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4002 base       base wipes out utmp & wtmp     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4003 dchanges   minor typo in dchanges         awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  4004 syslinux   procinfo breaks without module Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4005 lynx       Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *. Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4006 fileutils  Fileutils has /usr/libexec dir Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4007 netstd     identd doesn't seem to be corr Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4008 cvs        CVS texinfo docs won't format  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4009 base       /bin/edit causes error after a Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>

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It puts stuff into /usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux/5.002 which is not searched
by perl 5.003 and consequently nothing works :(
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On Wed, 24 Jul 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote:

> Package: perl
> Version: 5.003-2
> 
> perlconfig (aka h2ph) really wants to make .ph files with Objective C
> headers found under /usr/include... and fails!
> 
> Yves.
> 

it also runs h2ph in the foreground, when there's no good reason why it
shouldn't run in the background and let dselect get on with the rest of
the install process.

Craig


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Package: gcc
Version: 2.7.2-8

A recent posting on comp.os.linux.apps by
dirka@uni-paderborn.de (Dirk Alboth) can
be reproduced on my Debian system.  In fact,
it seems to occur on a Sun with g++ too.

Here's a modified version of the program:

--
#include <fstream.h>

void main( int argc, char **argv) {
  ofstream ofst;
  ofst.ofstream( argv[1]);
  ofst.form( "%s\n", "Hello world");
  ofst.~ofstream();
}
--

Running it with the argument of 'test' produces
a segfault.

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On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

Yves Arrouye <arrouye@marin.fdn.fr>

> You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
> > To anyone that read this message: your suggestions for features you
> > want in the Apache package are welcome.
> 
> Perhaps you could put in the SSL patches and make the apache-SLL package
> available on a site outside of the US?

excellent idea....

The one tiny problem with it, if i recall correctly, is that French laws
regarding encryption are even worse than the US laws.  They're not even
allowed to possess encryption devices/software!

(i may be wrong on this point....but i do vaguely recall reading about
it some time ago)


Craig


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bcwhite@verisim.com (Brian C. White)  wrote on 02.08.96 in <32024846.7671EB98@verisim.com>:

> > > I'm sure C and Assembler fit "cryptic" too.  Just think how much further
> > > advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever
> > > been invented.
> >
> > As to assembler, there are lots of _very_ different styles of writing it;
> > there is no one "Assembler" language. It's quite impossible to say
> > anything general about it.
>
> No it's not.  Assembler is low-level crunching.  It's unstructured,
> typeless, and unportable.  If you want portable asm, go to C.

I'll give you the "unportable". Even part of the "low-level".

However, I have seen examples of typed and structured assembler languages  
- even object support.

> This wasn't about style.  It's about "cryptic".  Good and bad style is
> possible in any language.

And you can write very non-cryptic programs in most assembler languages.  
It isn't even hard.

Of course, you can write cryptic programs in any language at all.

> > As to C, while the language does miss some very crucial features and does
> > make it relatively easy to write cryptic programs, the language itself is
> > quite clean and orthogonal. Parsing C code, for example, does not have any
> > of the quirks that parsing, say, FORTRAN or -surprise!- Perl has.
>
> Perl's syntax is quite straightforward for a human.  It is, however, a
> language of side-effects.  This is what can make it difficult to follow.

That's a problem, but it's not the problem I meant. For difficult to  
parse, well, compare these two lines:

   a =~ s/some/thing...
   b = c/d

Very bad syntax design, that.

> It's also what gives it part of its power.

That is just plain wrong. Heavy dependence on side effect does not power  
give - if anything, it diminishes the power, because you have to work  
harder to build reusable code.

> > I still have trouble
> > figuring out how to write _readable_ programs in Perl.
>
> Funny, I don't.

Either you're trying to do different things, or you have a different idea  
of readable. Maybe both.

Note that I have no such problems with, say, assemblers, C, Pascal, REXX,  
Lisp ... to name a few.

> > Sorry, but I disagree very much. Perl is an powerful and effective
> > language. It is neither fine nor even clean; it is _very_ ugly. And while
> > some variants of code are indeed easy to write in a clean way, lots of
> > others aren't. You can't get rid of dependencies on $_, for example. In
> > that aspect it's a lot more like assembler than like any high-level
> > language.
>
> There are very, very few places you _must_ use $_.  Writing clean code

There are few places you must access it explicitely. There are, however,  
any number of things that _will_ use it (and thus you need to make sure  
they don't conflict with each other). Bad language design.

> > > As for the truth of your comment...  Language syntax and symantics have
> > > little to do with a language's success; it's how easy it is to write
> > > useful programs with.  An operating system's success is due primarily
> > > to the amount of software available for it.  (Don't believe me?  Look
> > > at MS-Dos!)
> >
> > It doesn't depend on the "easy" factor, either. Look at MS-DOS, indeed -
> > for a very long time, all the utilities were completely written in
> > assembler. (Somehow, this didn't make them small and fast.)
>
> This point totally escapes me.  Dos, like C and Perl is/was successful
> because of the amount of software available for it.  It doesn't matter
> what the software was written in.

Well, DOS certainly never had any advantage at all over other OSs in "how  
easy it is to write useful programs with" it.

It's success did not depend on technical merits. Ever.

> > Like anything else, success of languages is mainly an advertizing thing.
> > And there can be no doubt that Perl has won that one. (So has C++, which
> > shouldn't have either, based on any technical merits.)
>
> I wouldn't call it avertising, but I think I know what you're saying.  These
> languages were "advertised" by other users because they worked.  They did
> the job better than the other choices.

Nope. "Because they worked", or "did the job better", never entered the  
picture.


MfG Kai


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On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Behan Webster wrote:

> I've also written the following simple script for one of the machines
> I manage that is used as a multi-homed web site (it has about 6 ip
> addresses right now.) Just give it a list of ip addresses on the
> command line. It's to be used once at boot time.
>
> >#!/usr/bin/perl
> > [...script deleted...]


> I hope this is helpful.

it's certainly a great idea.  Thanks, I can use something like that in my
wetware collection of useful tricks!


what i will never understand, though, is why people use perl for jobs that
sh is much better suited to.  

perl is great if you want awk/sed/grep/kitchen sink all rolled into one
scripting language. but there's a price - perl's slower and bigger and
takes longer to load.

here's the same thing in sh

---cut here---
#! /bin/sh

device=eth0             # aliased device
netmask=255.255.255.0   # your netmask

interface=0
for i in $@ ; do
    broadcast=`echo $i | sed -e 's/[^.]$/255/'`
    ifconfig $device:$interface $i netmask $netmask broadcast $broadcast
    route add -host $i dev $device:$interface
    interface=$[interface + 1]
done
---cut here---

(NB: this script should work BUT is untested)


actually, i can see problems in this (and in your perl implementation).

The netmask & broadcast address could be wrong in some (not uncommon)
circumstances...it should be possible, however, to make the script
generic by calculating the correct values for netmask and broadcast from
an arg like '203.16.167.50/24'.

it might also be worthwhile calculating the correct network address and
doing 'route add -net $netaddr $device:$interface'...would help when the
machine has ip alias addresses in multiple networks or subnets.

(of course, this extra stuff probably make it worth the overhead of
implementing it in perl :-)


Craig



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I don't get the "Visual Bell" when I run the wish script you mentioned.  
Perhaps you have vb (visual bell) set in your terminfo?

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> it also runs h2ph in the foreground, when there's no good reason why it
> shouldn't run in the background and let dselect get on with the rest of
> the install process.

Some people don't like this (IMO, very sensible) approach.  So there
needs to be options given.  What I'm going to do is write a tiny
script where the package maintainer and give it a command line, and it
will give the user the choice of running it in the foreground, or
running it in the background and putting output in a file.

[Side Note: I wonder if I should use Ada, Agol, Assembler, C, CSH,]
[Cobol, Eifel, Fortran, KSH, Lisp, Perl, Pascal, Python, SH, or]
[Smalltalk to do it?  :-) :-O :-Q :-)]


Jim


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Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> writes:

> what i will never understand, though, is why people use perl for jobs that
> sh is much better suited to.  
>
> perl is great if you want awk/sed/grep/kitchen sink all rolled into one
> scripting language. but there's a price - perl's slower and bigger and
> takes longer to load.

What I will never understand is why people assume that perl is so much
slower.  For most things it's much faster since it doesn't have to
launch a separate program for most operations.

Seriously, perl is usually faster.  Just to give you some idea, here's
a comparison (standard disclaimers apply -- this only applies for the
given programs etc., but then that's what we were talking about, a
perl and sh version of the same program).

In terms of load time, I ran this ten times and got the same result
each time.

(555) time sh -c "echo hello"
hello
0.03user 0.01system 0:00.04elapsed 93%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (147major+29minor)pagefaults 0swaps

(568) time perl -e 'print "hello\n"'
hello
0.02user 0.01system 0:00.02elapsed 107%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (159major+29minor)pagefaults 0swaps


So perl is at least as fast in that department. Now take essentially
your sh script and time it:

#!/bin/sh
 
device=eth0             # aliased device
netmask=255.255.255.0   # your netmask
 
interface=0
for i in $@ ; do
  broadcast=`echo $i | sed -e 's/[^.]$/255/'`

	# Let's assume these take the same time in either language:
  # ifconfig $device:$interface $i netmask $netmask broadcast $broadcast
  # route add -host $i dev $device:$interface

  interface=$[interface + 1]
done

(517) time speed-test-bash foo bar baz bax
0.08user 0.07system 0:00.14elapsed 102%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (464major+532minor)pagefaults 0swaps

(531) time speed-test-bash foo bar baz bax
0.04user 0.11system 0:00.14elapsed 102%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (464major+532minor)pagefaults 0swaps
   

Now let's do the same thing in perl.

#!/usr/bin/perl
 
$device=eth0;             # aliased device
$netmask=255.255.255.0;   # your netmask

$interface=0;
foreach $arg (@ARGV) {

  $broadcast = $arg;
	$broadcast =~ s/[^.]$/255/;
	
	# Let's assume these take the same time in either language:
  # ifconfig $device:$interface $i netmask $netmask broadcast $broadcast
  # route add -host $i dev $device:$interface
	
  $interface++;
}

(534) time speed-test-perl foo bar baz bax
0.02user 0.01system 0:00.02elapsed 120%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (169major+30minor)pagefaults 0swaps

(535) time speed-test-perl foo bar baz bax
0.02user 0.01system 0:00.02elapsed 120%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (169major+30minor)pagefaults 0swaps
 
As you can see, in real time sh is about seven times slower.  That's
no doubt because you have to fork all those copies of sed, and the
subshells to handle the piping.

Just FYI.
--
Rob


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Package: xbase
Version: 3.1.2-9


I believe that the 3 first extra explanatory lines in file `xbase.postinst'
of this package should be removed as they trigger unexpected result in some
cases (can go into an infinite loop as Xsession will call itself if you
start X from /etc/X11 for instance).

I'm including the offending portions of the corresponding files here after.


Thanks for the efforts of all Debian's developers and keep the good work
guys.



========================== /etc/X11/Xsession =====================
  if [ -e /etc/X11/window-managers ]
  then
    for i in cat `/etc/X11/window-managers` do
      if [ -x $i ]
      then
        exec $i
      fi
    done
  fi
==================================================================
========================== xbase.postinst ========================
cat >/etc/X11/window-managers <<EOF
# This file contains a list of available window managers. The default
# Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can
^^^^^^^^^^
# in this list.
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm
/usr/X11R6/bin/twm
EOF
==================================================================


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In message <6EBhsQqUcsB@khms.westfalen.de>, Kai Henningsen writes:
>That's a problem, but it's not the problem I meant. For difficult to  
>parse, well, compare these two lines:
>   a =~ s/some/thing...
>   b = c/d
>Very bad syntax design, that.

There's always s,some,thing, or s|some|thing| or whatever.

>Either you're trying to do different things, or you have a different idea  
>of readable. Maybe both.
>Note that I have no such problems with, say, assemblers, C, Pascal, REXX,  
>Lisp ... to name a few.

I've written programs in Perl (often making heavy use of regexps and
string handling) and gone for months without looking at the code, and
then had no problems figuring out what I needed to do when I went back
to modify the code.

Of course, this only proves that I am suspicious of the supposed
self-documenting capabilities of _any_ language, and thus comment and
document religiously.

>It's success did not depend on technical merits. Ever.

I'd disagree with that.  At the introduction of the IBM PC, you had
DOS, the p-system and, later CP/M.  I'd take DOS over the p-system any
day.  And by the time DRI got their act together, DOS had directories.

So, in that context, it did.  Remember, it wasn't bundled.

That it was not quickly enough eclipsed so that installed base was not
a problem competition-wise is hardly MS's fault.

Of course, I have to wonder how I ended up defending DOS and
Microsoft...

Mike.
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> [Side Note: I wonder if I should use Ada, Agol, Assembler, C, CSH,]
> [Cobol, Eifel, Fortran, KSH, Lisp, Perl, Pascal, Python, SH, or]
> [Smalltalk to do it?  :-) :-O :-Q :-)]

Prolog, definitely!

                                        Brian
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Package: groff
Version: 1.09-11

GNU troff 1.10 has been out since November 1995.  1.09 is relatively
ancient.  Version 1.10 fixes some very significant bugs, adds a
LaserJet output device, and more.

Also, the description incorrectly reads "GNU RunOFF".  It's GNU troff.
Runoff is an early precursor to troff.


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> I believe that the 3 first extra explanatory lines in file `xbase.postinst'
> of this package should be removed as they trigger unexpected result in some
> cases (can go into an infinite loop as Xsession will call itself if you

Perhaps the Xsession should be
	
	for i in `grep -v "^#" '/etc/X11/window-managers'` do
or
	for i in `sed -e /^#/d '/etc/X11/window-managers'` do


> ========================== /etc/X11/Xsession =====================
[...]
>     for i in cat `/etc/X11/window-managers` do
[...]
> ==================================================================
> ========================== xbase.postinst ========================
> cat >/etc/X11/window-managers <<EOF
> # This file contains a list of available window managers. The default
> # Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> # in this list.
> /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm
> /usr/X11R6/bin/twm
> EOF
> ==================================================================


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On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Guy Maor wrote:

> > Christian Hudon writes ("Re: Bug#3795: ae should not be essential"):
> > > Isn't it that some of the packages that look at EDITOR fall back
> > > to ae if there are problems with EDITOR?
>
> vipw and vigr do this. They're in passwd which is essential, but won't
> be as soon as I upload a new version.

Actually, they default to ae unless you override it with "export
EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi". I wouldn't mind so much if they just had a fallback
to ae if vi wasn't available but running ae by default from a command
named after vi just doesn't make any sense.

it's really disconcerting when you type 'vipw' or 'vigr' on a freshly
installed system (where you've spent 20 mins in dselect selecting
packages, including unselecting nvi & elvis and selecting vim), start
typing vi commands into the type-ahead buffer before it's finished
loading, and then find that the first line of /etc/passwd or /etc/group
is mangled with jjjjwwww or whatever.

I know this has been discussed before, but vipw does NOT mean ae.

maybe the best solution would be to have aepw & aegr as symlinks to vipw
& vigr. When, for example, vipw is executed, it checks for existence of
/usr/bin/vi. if vi doesn't exist, it either prints a message saying "vi
is not installed. try aepw" or just uses ae, or prints a warning message
before running ae.

Craig


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On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote:

> Package: xbase
> Version: 3.1.2-9
> 
> FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in 
> /var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by default
> in above package.
> 
> Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line
> "DisplayManager.errorLogFile:" to 
> 
> "DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/lib/xdm/xdm-errors"

What's so special about xdm that it's error log files should go in
/var/lib?

Isn't /var/log (or subdirectories of /var/log) the right place for all
log files?


Craig


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Much of this discussion (talking about MS-DOS, assembler code, etc.)
has no real place for debian developers.  I've asked Bruce to say
something, and he told me to ask you all to please move this
discussion off the list.  Please take it to private e-mail or
something for now.


Jim


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Package: netpbm
Version: 1994.03.01p

Missing manuals: pbm.5, ppm.5, pgm.5, pnm.5

I suspect they might be in the netpbm-devel package.  If so, it's a
bug.  Section 5 is "file formats", not development.  It's basic
information about netpbm.


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On 3 Aug 1996, Rob Browning wrote:

> Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> writes:
> 
> > what i will never understand, though, is why people use perl for
> > jobs that sh is much better suited to.
> >
> > perl is great if you want awk/sed/grep/kitchen sink all rolled into
> > one scripting language. but there's a price - perl's slower and
> > bigger and takes longer to load.
>
> What I will never understand is why people assume that perl is so much
> slower. For most things it's much faster since it doesn't have to
> launch a separate program for most operations.

sorry, my language was unclear - i implied that perl ran slower when all
i really meant was that it takes longer to load and is overkill for many
small tasks.

perl RUNS faster, that's a fact.

perl LOADS slower, that's also a fact.

perl also requires much more memory, which on a 4mb or 8mb system will
slow things down even further due to extra swapping.

therefore tiny scripts are better done in sh, which is a) smaller and
therefore loads faster, and b) almost always in memory/cache anyway.


Of course, as you say, if you need to fork sed (or whatever) many times
then perl is clearly a winner.


my basic rule of thumb is:

    if the script is mostly a program launcher then use sh.  otherwise
    use awk or perl or whatever language best suits the application.

one big advantage to sh for me is that if i find that i am entering
similar or repetitive commands at the prompt, i can easily cut and paste
the command line into a text file. Add "#! /bin/sh", some extra line
breaks to make it more readable, some comments to explain what it does
and what arguments it takes, and i have a new script.

I'd like to see a bourne-like shell with perl-like regexp stuff (mainly
sed & grep) built in - i'd switch to that in a flash. As a built-in it
would be extremely fast, and i'd still be able to test/debug/prototype
my scripts interactively on the command line :-)



Craig


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During yet another sleepless night, I was browsing the bug list, and
found this bug.

> Today I decided to configure pgp-i, and I came across 2 bugs.
> 1 is already listed as bug #1103, and is caused by a non excisting
> .pgp directory, and pgp doesn't create one, and so can't create it's
> output files. The other one isn't listed. When I run pgp -kg to
> generate a key, It ask me to choose 1, 2 or 3 or to type the number of
> bits. When I enter 2, It's says It will generate a 768 bit key, but
> when it is asking for random key presses, it only needs 4 random bits,
> which is 1 keypress. If I type 768 when asked the size of the key, 
> It needs 248 random bits. So the number of bits isn't correctly set at
> 768 bits when you choose 2 (and maybe 1 and 3, haven't tested that).

PGP collects randomness from all keypresses, that is, also while you
enter the number of bits, the username, and the passphrase. Depending
on how you enter the preceding information, PGP can need more or less
random key presses.  It is even possible to enter the preceding info
in such a way that no extra random bits are required (e.g., slow typing
and long usernames and passphrases tends to make the intervals between
keypresses more random).

Thus, there is no bug (although it was a good idea to be worried), and 
I'm closing this bug report.  I'm not the PGP maintainer, so I hope I'm
not stepping on Ian's toes.

-- 
Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi> <http://www.iki.fi/liw/>
Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list.



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Hmm. Forgot to mention that there's a new maintainer. Oh, well.
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Source: unzip
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 unzip: De-archiver for .zip files
Changes:
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 fixed lack of multi-architecture support (Bug #3916); added a long
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Another one that I forgot to mention the new maintainer in...oh, well,
put it down to a late night. :-)
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Source: zip
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Hopefully, this will be the last modifications made to vim 3.0 - version
4.2 is out (with restrictions on distribution on CDs), and 4.3 is due in
a few weeks (without those restrictions). I'll be upgrading the sources
to 4.3 when it's released.

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Hi folks,

	I'm in the process of moving from yankee new england to the
 deep south, and I'll be off the net for at least a month, may be
 longer (I don't have a job yet, and I'd likely be in India most of
 October).  

	I think I need new maintainers for my packages (or at least
 caretakers -- I'm fairly sure I'll be back). With my uploads today,
 the packages are bug free, and should be fairly low maintenance.  The
 packages are:

||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  kernel-package  2.03           Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
ii  CGI-modules     2.75-4         modules for perl5, for use in writing CGI sc
ii  c2man           2.41-0         Graham Stoney's mechanized man page generato
ii  dist            3.60-6         Tools for developing, maintaining and distri
ii  mailagent       3.44-7         An automatic mail-processing tool
ii  make            3.74-12        GNU Make.

	Sven, could you please add them to your lists of packages that
 need to be attended to? 

	Thanks,
	
		manoj
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On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  -w all

> cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  - all
                           ^ (no w)

Was that a typo on your part?

Guy


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Package: xbase
Version: 3.1.2-9

These two programs exports TERMCAP of the form
		co#80:li#24:
Where 80 and 24 can be replaced by the dimensions
of your xterm.  This is really braindead as you
often want to resize your xterm and many applications
simply worship TERMCAP as the most reliable source
of info.  It also makes anything that uses libslang
unusable as it thinks my TERMCAP is too simple :)

This should be disabled by default.
-- 
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I have uploaded the initial release of libpam to chiark.  There is
also a copy available on
ftp://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be/pub/people/patrick/debian.

The libpam package contains the PAM libraries (PAM = Pluggable
Authentication Modules [http://gluon.physics.ucla.edu/~morgan/pam
http://www.redhat.com/pam]).

The current libraries have an experimental nature: the main logic is
OK, but only a limited set of underlying authentication modules is
available for the moment (other modules are under development).
However, the libraries are stable enough to start making application
programs (authentication clients) PAM aware.

I am releasing this package now, because I think that it's now the
time to consider making applications PAM aware: development is
currently accellerating, and RedHat is PAM-ifying some authentication
clients for their next release.  As a consequence we can use the same
or similar diffs for most of our applications.

If you would PAM-ify your application, please join the Linux-PAM
mailing list (pam-list-request@redhat.com).

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From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu>
Date: 04 Aug 1996 04:28:31 -0400
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Hi,

	I have no _major_ objections to changing the name of the make
 package to gmake, and have it provide make as a virtual package (and
 pmake doing the same).  It should be noted, though, that:
	a) We would be changing the name of the upstream package (this
	   should not be undertaken lightly)
	b) We would have to use alternatives to actually provide a
	   make on the system
	c) Does pmake offer similar facilities and semantics as a
	   generic ``make'' package?
 I guss the question I have is whether this change buys us enough. If
 it does, I have no objections to changing the name.

	manoj
-- 
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Hello,

Erick asked the question, but I don't remember if there was an answer.
Would it be okay if, when uploading changes to a package, we only upload
a .deb and a .diff.gz file? This would help people like us who have slow
PPP connections but maintain big packages.

I propose that we upload once

        somepackage_release.tar.gz

which unpacks to

        somepackage-release.orig/

and then further uploads would be

        somepackage_release-deb.diff.gz
        somepackage_release-deb_arch.deb

Would that be okay?
Yves.

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On Aug 2, 11:17am, Dale Scheetz wrote:
} Subject: Re: New virtual package names.
} On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Warwick HARVEY wrote:
} 
} > > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
} > > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
} > > others as well).
} > 
} > What would it be used for?  Are there packages that depend on having an
} > editor, or for which it would be appropriate to recommend one (and have any
} > old editor serve the purpose)?  If so, no problem...
} > 
} Here is a better reason:
} 
} I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall.  It should
} be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to.  I don't like
} it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging system.

It could be nice to have packages providing editor to also update
an `editor' binary with update-alternative. This way, base packages
(or packages like quota) which actually default to 'ae' or 'vi' when
VISUAL or EDITOR are not set would default to 'editor'.

Talking about that, I think the packages could even provide editor *and/or*
visual, so that other programs could do something like:

	ed = getenv("VISUAL");
	if (!ed || !*ed) ed = getenv("EDITOR");
	if (!ed || !*ed) ed = "visual";
	if (!found_in_path(ed)) ed = "editor";

to choose an editor to use.

Yves.


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bcwhite@verisim.com (Brian C. White)  wrote on 03.08.96 in <3203A6BD.2D6F9B2B@verisim.com>:

> > [Side Note: I wonder if I should use Ada, Agol, Assembler, C, CSH,]
> > [Cobol, Eifel, Fortran, KSH, Lisp, Perl, Pascal, Python, SH, or]
> > [Smalltalk to do it?  :-) :-O :-Q :-)]
>
> Prolog, definitely!

Heathen! Forth it must be.


MfG Kai


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I think we should wrap this up. It's becoming much too long.

mdorman@lot49.med.miami.edu (Michael Alan Dorman)  wrote on 03.08.96 in <m0ummIc-0008WkC@lot49.med.miami.edu>:

> In message <6EBhsQqUcsB@khms.westfalen.de>, Kai Henningsen writes:
> >That's a problem, but it's not the problem I meant. For difficult to
> >parse, well, compare these two lines:
> >   a =~ s/some/thing...
> >   b = c/d
> >Very bad syntax design, that.
>
> There's always s,some,thing, or s|some|thing| or whatever.

>From the "clean syntax" poin of view, that's anything but an improvement.  
Maybe you need to spend some time with lex and yacc (sorry, flex and  
bison) to really understand what I'm upset about here.

> >It's success did not depend on technical merits. Ever.
>
> I'd disagree with that.  At the introduction of the IBM PC, you had
> DOS, the p-system and, later CP/M.  I'd take DOS over the p-system any
> day.  And by the time DRI got their act together, DOS had directories.

Actually, the technical merits of those seem pretty close to me.

> So, in that context, it did.  Remember, it wasn't bundled.

Back then, *my* computer was an Apple ][, with either Apple DOS, Prodos,  
the p-system, or CP/M. My first Intel machine was an AT compatible from  
Acer (back then, they were named Multitech; changed because of a name  
clash.) DOS was bundled in a way - you usually "got it". I needed some  
talking to get them to *sell* me one (3.1, I believe); I wanted the  
manuals.

Back then, I did most of my programming in Pascal - p-system or Turbo  
Pascal for CP/M. I'd *loved* to have a p-system for the AT; unfortunately,  
I've never even *seen* one. Nor CP/M for the beast, either.

Then again, when I first heard of the Intel chip (remember, I used a 64 K  
machine at the time), my reaction was "1 MB address space? Are those guys  
stupid? Why not do at least the 16 MB of the 68000?"

> That it was not quickly enough eclipsed so that installed base was not
> a problem competition-wise is hardly MS's fault.

The real problem is probably that OS/2 1.0 (aka "project black hole") took  
several years too long. Otherwise, we'd still have a mediocre system  
instead of an abominable one. Maybe even better, but somehow I doubt OS/2  
would have been as good as today.

Oh well, we should go back to Linux.

> Of course, I have to wonder how I ended up defending DOS and
> Microsoft...

I know the feeling.


MfG Kai


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cas@taz.net.au (Craig Sanders)  wrote on 04.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960804114034.6454N-100000@siva.taz.net.au>:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote:
>
> > Package: xbase
> > Version: 3.1.2-9
> >
> > FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in
> > /var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by default
> > in above package.
> >
> > Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line
> > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile:" to
> >
> > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/lib/xdm/xdm-errors"
>
> What's so special about xdm that it's error log files should go in
> /var/lib?
>
> Isn't /var/log (or subdirectories of /var/log) the right place for all
> log files?

That's probably why the next version of the standard no longer talks about  
xdm-errors.

MfG Kai


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/usr/bin/ref is in elviscmn, rather than in elvisctags.


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Emilio Lopes writes:
> EB>         * added latin1.sty: Michael Meskens requested
> 
> What is wrong with 
> 
> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}

Note that as my fault. I've been using latin1.sty for so long I didn't even
realize that this was a possibility. Sorry for that.

But I still think we should keep latin1.sty for guess who are used to it
(like me, although I will probably change my files).

Michael

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Package: bootdisk
Version: 1.1.1

Attempted to install Debian 1.1.1 from PHT cd rom. 
Bootdisk doesn't see my SCSI system, based on NCR
53c8xx PCI Rev 2.0 1993

This device worked find under Debian .93R6/ Linux
1.2.13


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          AUTHORITATIVE LIST OF VIRTUAL PACKAGE NAMES

Below is an authoritative list of virtual package names currently
in-use or proposed and not objected to.  Please check the list below
for things relevant to your packages.

New packages MUST use virtual package names where appropriate (this
includes making new ones - read on).

Packages MUST NOT use virtual package names (except privately, amongst
a cooperating group of packages) unless they have been agreed upon and
appear in this list.

The latest version of this file can be found in
        doc/package-developer/virtual-package-names-list.text
on your local Debian FTP site.

The procedure for updating the list is as follows:

1. Post to debian-devel saying what names you intend to use or what
   other changes you wish to make.

2. Wait a few days for comment.

3. Mail the maintainer of the virtual package name list (Warwick Harvey
   <warwick@cs.mu.OZ.AU>) notifying him of the consensus reached (or
   your suggestions if noone objected).  Please include a proposed brief
   description of the new virtual name(s) for the list.  The list
   maintainer will then post the new list to debian-devel and upload it
   to the FTP site.

4. Go and use the new or changed names.

Warwick.
(based on earlier version by Ian J.)


Now, the list:

X Windows:
----------
X11R5                   XFree86 R5, including base system (obsolete)
xR5shlib                XFree86 R5 shared library only
X11R6                   XFree86 R6, including base system
xR6shlib                XFree86 R6 shared library only
xlibraries              XFree86 R6 shared library or stub library
xserver                 Any X server (used by other X packages)

Miscellaneous:
--------------
libc.so.4               An a.out shared C library, version 4.x.x.
info-browser            Something that can browser GNU Info files
kernel-source           Kernel source code
kernel-headers          Kernel header files (<linux/*.h>, <asm/*.h>)
kernel-image            Kernel image ( vmlinuz, System.map, modules )
httpd                   Any HTTP server
postscript-viewer       Anything that can display Postscript files
postscript-preview      Any preprocessor that creates Postscript output
metafont                The TeX Metafont program
dvilj, dvips            Provided by dviljk, dvipsk (? - iwj)
www-browser             Something that can browse html files
awk                     Anything providing suitable /usr/bin/{awk,nawk}
c-shell                 Anything providing a suitable /usr/bin/csh
pdf-viewer              Anything that can display PDF files
pdf-preview             Any preprocessor that creates PDF output
compress                Anything that provides a true BSD compress command
emacs                   Anything that provides the emacs editor

News and Mail:
--------------
mail-transport-agent    Mail transport agents (Smail, Sendmail, &c)
mail-reader             Mail user agents (Pine, Elm, mailx, &c)
news-transport-system   Local news system (INN, C News or B News)
news-reader             Any news reader (trn, tin, &c)
inews                   /usr/bin/inews - local or remote news poster
pgp                     A version of PGP (International or US)
imap-client             Any mail reader capable of accessing remote mail
                        folders using the IMAP protocol (e.g. Pine)
imap-server             Any IMAP mail server

Names of superseded packages Provided by the current ones:
----------------------------------------------------------
gs_x, gs_svga, gs_both  Provided by Ghostscript (gs).  Use gs.
xpmR6                   Provided by xpm.  Use xpm.

Change history:
---------------
22 Sep 1995 Ian Jackson         Initial revision.
26 Mar 1996 Andrew Howell       Added www-browser.
11 May 1996 Manoj Srivastava    Added kernel-image, added new location of
                                this file
19 May 1996 Warwick Harvey      Took over maintenance of list, changed
                                instructions for updating list
25 Jul 1996 Warwick Harvey      Added awk as per Chris Fearnley's suggestion
                                Added c-shell, which seemed to have dropped
                                off at some stage
 2 Aug 1996 Added pdf-{viewer,preview}, compress, emacs
 5 Aug 1996 Added imap-{client,server}


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Package: www.debian.org

When I go to a subdirectory as the instructions
indicate to narrow down my Glimpse search to just
bug reports, say, I get a Not Found page, that says
something about the referring page and the href
anchor points to ghindex.html  I din't understand
what the point of that is, why doesn't it just post
an email mentioning that page?


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In message <19960804113251.24611.qmail@primer.i-connect.net>, 
arrouye@debian.org writes:
>Description: 
> compress-package: fileset to build a Debian compress package
>Changes:
> * New organization (a la kernel-package)
> * Automatic diversion and addition of symlinks for gzip-provided commands
> * Can built compress packages from different sources
>Files:
> fa4c03063df6f2bf96ff8d88129e7bcf  7627  devel  -  compress-package_1.1-1.tar.gz
> 07b75ae335d55611a52dbb718c58d31f  7804  devel  extra  compress-package_1.1-1_all.deb

compress belongs into non-free, not into devel! 
Reason: Copyright-problems (Unisys-Patent)

David

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On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Guy Maor wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> > cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  -w all
> 
> > cd lib; /usr/bin/pmake  - all
>                            ^ (no w)
> 
> Was that a typo on your part?
> 
No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.

The line in the Makefile is:

	cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all

There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?

confused,

Dwarf

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Package: Boot1440.bin
Version: Debian 1.1

I have been unable to boot from the boot1440.bin image.  I have tried
the
following:

- downloaded the image from a variety of sources.
- used several different floppies
- erased (using dd if=/dev/zero ...) the floppies before writing the   
  image to them.
- formatted the floppies using a variety of tools

When I attempt to boot, I get the following:

 invalid compressed format (err=2)

Then it tells me that the system is halted.

I've tried entering boot options (such as 'linux ether=10,0x320,eth0').
When I do this, I get a slightly different error message:

 incomplete literal tree

Where do I go from here?

Chris Hertel -)-----
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I compiled squid 1.0.5 last night and made a new package for it, but when
i installed it with dpkg on my system i got a warning message about
"downgrading to earlier version due to --force".

which means that dselect can't be used to upgrade this package because it
won't do the forced "downgrade".  I don't want to upload the new package
until this is fixed.

I seem to recall some discussion a few months back about an "Epoch" header
or something like that which could be used to get around this problem.

Was epoch implemented?  How do I use it? 


(note for those waiting on a new version of squid: i probably wont get
time to finish this off now until the end of the week.) 

Craig


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it seems to me that there are two types of "default" file being
discussed here.

The first is default options for executables - i.e. /etc/default. Most
discussion so far has concentrated on this. This will require massive
changes to the system so that binaries know how to use the default
information (e.g. tar has to be patched to use /etc/default/tar) unless
we have a way of converting these /etc/default/* files into the
relevant environment variables.


The second is boot time configuration information - information that
the system needs to boot up correctly...network address, what programs
to run, etc. This is probably a lot easier and simpler to implement as
we don't need to make any radical changes to the binaries to get the
benefits.

Some of the machines I use at work are FreeBSD, some are NextStep (my
personal workstation is Debian, of course...and is the most stable of
the lot. By example of my machine only i have convinced the boss that
debian linux is a damned good system :).

One thing I really like about BSD & NextStep is their /etc/sysconfig
(BSD) and /etc/hostconfig (NS) files.  (I know debian is sysV and not BSD
but a good idea is a good idea :) I tend to prefer the hostconfig file
because it's just a list of simple variables, each containing one value
only.


These contain simple directives like:

BSD: 

---cut here---extract of sample /etc/sysconfig---
hostname="host.domain.blah"
defaultdomainname=NO
tcp_extensions=YES
ipfirewall=YES
network_interfaces="ed0 lo0"
ifconfig_ed0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost"
route_loopback="${hostname} localhost"
defaultrouter=203.2.135.53
routedflags=NO
timedflags=NO
xntpdflags="NO"
tickadjflags="-Aq"
---cut here---sample /etc/sysconfig---

NextStep:

---cut here---sample /etc/hostconfig---
HOSTNAME=hostname
INETADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
ROUTER=-ROUTED-
IPNETMASK=
IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
NETMASTER=-YES-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-AUTOMATIC-
---cut here---sample /etc/hostconfig---


The nice thing about these types of files is that they're easily parsed in
sh.  In fact, they can even be sourced in an /etc/init.d/* script to provide
environment variables (although that might have undesirable side-effects).

If we use something like this, we would need:

    - an easy way for debian.{pre,post}{inst,rm} scripts to add, delete,
      and extract individual entries.  sed would do the trick for sh,
      and perl should have no problems at all with this format.

      When a usenet news related package is installed, it should
      examine this file to see if NEWS_SERVER is defined. If it is, it
      uses it. 

      If not, it should query the user and add a line like
      "NEWS_SERVER=hostname.domain". We should provide a standard
      script, which the postinst script calls to do this.


    - a defined standard for how /etc/init.d scripts should use this
      information.  e.g. source the file or:

              sed -n -e '/^NEWS_SERVER=/s/\([^=]*\)=\(.*\)/\2/p'


here's two simple examples of how this could be used:

---/etc/init.d/network---
#! /bin/sh

function extract_var() {
        sed -n -e "/^$1=/s/\([^=]*\)=\(.*\)/\2/p" /etc/hostconfig
}

IPADDR=`extract_var IPADDR`
NETMASK=`extract_var NETMASK`
NETWORK=`extract_var NETWORK`
BROADCAST=`extract_var BROADCAST`
GATEWAY=`extract_var GATEWAY`

/sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}

/sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} eth0
/sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} >/dev/null 2>&1
/sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
---/etc/init.d/network---

or

---/etc/init.d/netstd_init---
#!/bin/sh
#
# Start networking daemons.

function extract_var() {
        sed -n -e "/^$1=/s/\([^=]*\)=\(.*\)/\2/p" /etc/hostconfig
}

NET="/usr/sbin"
ROUTER=`extract_var ROUTER`

case "$1" in
  start)
    if [ $ROUTER = ROUTED ] ; then
	   echo "Starting routed" ; start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec ${NET}/routed -- -q
	;;
    fi
    if [ $ROUTER = GATED ] ; then
	   echo "Starting gated" ; start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec ${NET}/gated 
	;;
    fi
  stop)
        start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/routed
        start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/gated
	;;
  *)
        echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/netstd_init {start|stop}"
        exit 1
esac

exit 0
---/etc/init.d/netstd_init---


food for thought, anyway...


Craig



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Package: base
Version: 1.1.0-14

The newest base contains a /var/run/utmp file of length 0. When upgrading
a running system, this:

- causes the list of people currently online to be lost
- makes tools like 'w' segfault until one login occurs.

Fix : remove /var/run/utmp from base.

  Christian

PS Base shouldn't contain any files in /var/run, by definition.


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Package: sysklogd
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/sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755.

/usr/doc/sysklogd should be 644.


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/usr/bin/dos should be mode 4755, not 4711.


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Package: dump
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/sbin/dump and /sbin/restore should be 2755.


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Package: fdutils
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/usr/bin/fdmount should be mode 4755, not 4750.


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/usr/bin/mkparser and /usr/bin/mkparserclass should be mode 755, not
555.


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You (Dale Scheetz) wrote:
> No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
> when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.
> 
> The line in the Makefile is:
> 
> 	cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all
                               ^
Could it be that there is a `$' missing there just before the `(' ?

> There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
>
> Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?

Dunno..

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Increasingly, documentation is in a generic markup format that can be
processed into various output formats either by standard tools or ones
that come with the package.

For example:
 * GNU Texinfo can be converted to Info, DVI (and hence rather large
   PostScript) and HTML.
 * The Linux FAQ comes in plain ASCII, HTML, Info, and PostScript via
   Lout.
 * The Linux HOWTOs are done in linuxdoc-sgml, which produces ASCII,
   HTML, Info and LaTeX (hence DVI and large PostScript).
 * My new dpkg manuals will be available in plain ASCII, overstruck
   ASCII, HTML and Postscript (via Lout).
 * The Perl documentation can be converted to HTML, plain text,
   manpage source (hence overstruck text and PostScript) and LaTeX
   (hence DVI and large PostScript).

We need to decide which documentation formats we wish to distribute,
and how to manage their display.  Obviously we can't distribute all of
the output formats as that will either make packages too large or
produce too many packages.

For some of the formats you can process the data `on the fly' as it is
viewed; for others (at least TeX, Lout and HTML) this is trickier as
the processing or viewing involves dumping the formatted document to a
file, or storing some kind of auxiliary data in files while it's being
processed.

Options for our policy include:
 1. Specify one or two particular preferred target formats and
    distribute those.  Leave the source in the source package.  So far
    we have done this with documentation in Texinfo - we leave the
    .texi files in the source package and distribute only the info
    files.
 2. Distribute the source only and a converter.  This has been done
    with manpages, and with the Perl `pod' documentation.
 3. Distribute the source and one target format for people who don't
    have or want converters.
 4. Do something fancy with Lars's documentation viewing stuff.  I'm
    sure Lars will tell us about this.

My inclination is to go for 4 with 2 or 3, if that makes sense.

Ian.


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On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> You (Dale Scheetz) wrote:
> > No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
> > when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.
> > 
> > The line in the Makefile is:
> > 
> > 	cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all
>                                ^
> Could it be that there is a `$' missing there just before the `(' ?
> 
Nope, that's just a typo on my part ;-)

> > There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
> >
> > Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?
> 
> Dunno..
> 
> Mike.
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OK, so we've decided to have packages put their Emacs startup stuff in
a directory, with one file per package.

The directory obviously ought to go in /etc, and the files made
conffiles, so that the sysadmin can reconfigure things.

/etc/emacs/site-start.d ?

Ian.


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Package: ncurses3.0
Version: 1.9.9e-1

It seems the ncurses terminfo database misses significant features. When
trying to display mime encoded mail I do not get the correct features.

For instance try to display the following file with 'richtext <file>'

<nl><center>Test1
</center><nl><flushleft><nl><nl>

<bold>Test2
</bold>

The first line should be centered, the second should be written in bold
face. Instead I get:

Test1 


Test2 

When looking for the problem I saw that richtext tries to read the "md"
sequence (available in /etc/termcap) but couldn't find it and thus removed
the bold feature. The same holds for center.

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> OK, so we've decided to have packages put their Emacs startup stuff in
> a directory, with one file per package.
> 
> The directory obviously ought to go in /etc, and the files made
> conffiles, so that the sysadmin can reconfigure things.
> 
> /etc/emacs/site-start.d ?

Please wait a minute.

How will these files be read.  In alphabetical or fileposition order?
Some scripts written in these might work only properly if some other
script is executed first.  I can't come up with some proper example 
but I can imagine that this might be very true.  This will force us
to scan the files several times and execute what is in there only if
some specific other scripts are executed earlier.

Sorry not native english speaker, so the above might be too cryptic,
but I see some problem here.  We might be better of with some script
modifying a file like install-info does and have some order where 
scripts can be put in that file (top, middle, bottom, or 0..9).

Erick


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Ian Jackson (after my deletions):
>  * GNU Texinfo ... HTML.
>  * The Linux FAQ ... HTML ...
>  * The Linux HOWTOs ... HTML ...
>  * My new dpkg manuals ... HTML ...
>  * The Perl documentation ... HTML

I think I see a trend here. While HTML is not the perfect format (e.g.,
it lacks the navigation hints in Info), it is still the only common
denominator, and I guess most people will have a web browser installed
anyway.

We must still support the native versions. Not everyone will want or
prefer a web browser over Info or manual pages.

Debiandoc can handle on-line conversions.  Some of the conversions aren't
too good. For example, texi2html seems to do a better job than info2www,
and I'm told this is inherent. Thus, it would be a good idea to provide
texi2html'd versions of the Info files as optional packages.

The FAQ's, HOWTO's, and other such stuff should also be made available
as optional HTML versions, if one is currently not part of the main
package.

Summary: status quo, but provide optional HTML packages.

This leaves us with the problem of having the same documentation in
several formats installed at the same time, which is usually a waste
of disk space. This is solvable with some programming: provide tools
to identify and remove duplicate documents. It's a SMOP, as long as I
don't have to do it. :-)

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> Options for our policy include:
>  1. Specify one or two particular preferred target formats and
>     distribute those.  Leave the source in the source package.  So far
>     we have done this with documentation in Texinfo - we leave the
>     .texi files in the source package and distribute only the info
>     files.
>  2. Distribute the source only and a converter.  This has been done
>     with manpages, and with the Perl `pod' documentation.
>  3. Distribute the source and one target format for people who don't
>     have or want converters.
>  4. Do something fancy with Lars's documentation viewing stuff.  I'm
>     sure Lars will tell us about this.
> 
> My inclination is to go for 4 with 2 or 3, if that makes sense.

And get rid of the .info files, using w3-el on texi2html .texi files. Sorry
but this isn't very fast on an 8mb machine.  It might be that I don't
understand the above, but for me w3-el via texi2html on the fly is a very
fast and therefore unwanted alternative for the info-reader in emacs.  I
presume quite some others agree with me.

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On Aug 3,  8:51pm, Craig Sanders wrote:
} Subject: Re: New Apache package (Was: Re: Q about making a package with a 
} 
} On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
} 
} Yves Arrouye <arrouye@marin.fdn.fr>
} 
} > You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
} > > To anyone that read this message: your suggestions for features you
} > > want in the Apache package are welcome.
} > 
} > Perhaps you could put in the SSL patches and make the apache-SLL package
} > available on a site outside of the US?
} 
} excellent idea....
} 
} The one tiny problem with it, if i recall correctly, is that French laws
} regarding encryption are even worse than the US laws.  They're not even
} allowed to possess encryption devices/software!

I'm not sure. What's sure is that we don't have the right to use them...
Now, with the ever increasing pressure of would-be electronic merchants
there will be a possibility to crypt for authentification at the express
condition that a trusted (by the State) third-party has a copy of the
encryption key. But I still don't know if anyone will be allowed to give
such a key to this third-party (I'm afraid this will not be the case
because noone will be willing to process too many keys), so I fear only
commercial parties will be able to do that for se in their software for
example.

France: Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite ;-) but not with regards to encryption.

Yves.



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On Aug 4,  6:55pm, David Frey wrote:
} Subject: Re: Uploading compress-package 1.1 on master
} In message <19960804113251.24611.qmail@primer.i-connect.net>, 
} arrouye@debian.org writes:
} >Description: 
} > compress-package: fileset to build a Debian compress package

} compress belongs into non-free, not into devel! 
} Reason: Copyright-problems (Unisys-Patent)

No. This package *is* free: it only allows one to build a compress
binary package, which then will be distributable under Unisys conditions.

BTW, I read in this list that the Unisys patent does not apply outside of
the USA. Is this true? In this case, maybe someone in Europe can make a
binary compress package available?

Yves.


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The david@ods.com address in the gc package bounces :-( I enclose my
message in case David's reading...

Yves.

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} 
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Package: libtiff3-dev
Version: 3.4beta034-1

Many .3t manual pages have .so requests like

        .so SomePage.3t

instead of

        .so man3/SomePage.3t

making the manual pages unusable.

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srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu (Manoj Srivastava)  wrote on 04.08.96 in <gvxivazbljk.fsf@diamond.pilgrim.umass.edu>:

> 	I have no _major_ objections to changing the name of the make
>  package to gmake, and have it provide make as a virtual package (and
>  pmake doing the same).  It should be noted, though, that:

I have one, though.

> 	a) We would be changing the name of the upstream package (this
> 	   should not be undertaken lightly)
> 	b) We would have to use alternatives to actually provide a
> 	   make on the system
> 	c) Does pmake offer similar facilities and semantics as a
> 	   generic ``make'' package?
>  I guss the question I have is whether this change buys us enough. If
>  it does, I have no objections to changing the name.

The problem with this approach is that it breaks everything that assumes  
that make is the GNU make - for instance, the kernel. And probably several  
debian.rules files.

MfG Kai


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Erick Branderhorst writes:
 > 
 > > OK, so we've decided to have packages put their Emacs startup stuff in
 > > a directory, with one file per package.
 > > 
 > > The directory obviously ought to go in /etc, and the files made
 > > conffiles, so that the sysadmin can reconfigure things.
 > > 
 > > /etc/emacs/site-start.d ?
 > 
 > Please wait a minute.
 > 
 > How will these files be read.  In alphabetical or fileposition order?
 > Some scripts written in these might work only properly if some other
 > script is executed first.  I can't come up with some proper example 
 > but I can imagine that this might be very true.  This will force us
 > to scan the files several times and execute what is in there only if
 > some specific other scripts are executed earlier.

If the files there really depend on each other, then it may be nice
to require that each xxxx.el file contains

	(provide 'site-start-xxx)

(as the *last* line so nothing is provided in case of error), and other
files will just use

	(require 'site-start-xxx)

as needed.

Or is there a reason not to do that?
Yves.


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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you haven't been able to boot, ask on debian-user for
a boot disk image. Several of our people have made one for
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    Bruce




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The 1.1 package had make-cpkg broken, and created unusable symlinks.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Yves.

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Date: 05 Aug 96 23:59 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org>
Source: compress-package
Version: 1.2-1
Binary:  compress-package
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 compress-package: fileset to build a Debian compress package
Changes:
  * Fixed make-cpkg target handling.
  * Replaced setup of symbolic links by generation of shell scripts
    because the zcat from gzip does not recognize when it is called
    as gzcat.
  * Provide g* links for zless, z*grep and friends to be consistent
    with the renaming of zcat and others.
Files:
 aec3bc57cdf382b3bc90fe01c0da5e42  8350  devel  -  compress-package_1.2-1.tar.gz
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Hello,

I thought having a package with

        Provides: compress
        Replaces: compress

would be like

        Provides: compress
        Conflicts: compress

except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package
was installed any previous package providing compress would be removed
first.

Obviously it does not work. Is this because of virtual packages, or did
I not understand Replaces:?

Yves.

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Package: xserver-s3
Version: 3.1.2-5

When in the 640x480 mode, the mouse cursor points incorrectly.  The
point at which the cursor appears to point is not where the mouse
button selects when you push the key.  I have not tested other video
resolutions with this card.

The X server thinks it is pointing approximately 8 pixels to the left
of where the mouse cursor appears to be pointing.

I have a Diamond Stealth64 Video 3200 (S3-968) PCI video card with 2MB
VRAM.  Before installing Debian 1.1, it worked fine although I was
using a really old version of X.

As you might guess, this is REALLY annoying and REALLY needs to be
fixed.

Here is my XF86Config file.

------- start of cut text --------------
# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# [some comments have been removed]

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

    FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    DontZoom

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Keyboard"

    Protocol	"Standard"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line

#    Protocol	"Xqueue"

    AutoRepeat	500 5
# Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be required
# when using pre-R6 clients
#    ServerNumLock

# Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Xleds      1 2 3

# To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, 
# RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

    LeftAlt     Meta
    RightAlt    ModeShift
#    RightCtl    Compose
#    ScrollLock  ModeLock

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Pointer"
    Protocol    "Mouseman"
    Device      "/dev/mouse"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Protocol	"Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice

#    BaudRate	9600
#    SampleRate	150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#    Emulate3Buttons
#    Emulate3Timeout    50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

    ChordMiddle

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "My Monitor"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    ModelName   "Unknown"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   31.5, 35.15, 35.5

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 50-90

# Modes can be specified in two formats.  A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.

# These two are equivalent

#    ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

#    Mode "1024x768i"
#        DotClock	45
#        HTimings	1024 1048 1208 1264
#        VTimings	768 776 784 817
#        Flags		"Interlace"
#    EndMode

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400"     25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450
# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600"     36     800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    44.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817 Interlace

# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600"     40     800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628 +hsync +vsync

# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600"     50     800  856  976 1040   600  637  643  666 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    65    1024 1032 1176 1344   768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync

# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    75    1024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"   80    1280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace

# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    85    1024 1032 1152 1360   768  784  787  823
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  110    1280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054

# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1456 1712  1024 1027 1030 1064

# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064

# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.

# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x200"     12.588 320  336  384  400   200  204  205  225 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x240"     12.588 320  336  384  400   240  245  246  262 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "320x240"     15.750 320  336  384  400   240  244  246  262 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "400x300"     18     400  416  448  512   300  301  602  312 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300"     20     400  416  480  528   300  301  303  314 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300"     25     400  424  488  520   300  319  322  333 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "480x300"     21.656 480  496  536  616   300  301  302  312 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     23.890 480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     25     480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     29.952 480  504  584  624   300  319  322  333 Doublescan

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier	"Generic VGA"
    VendorName	"Unknown"
    BoardName	"Unknown"
    Chipset	"generic"

#    VideoRam	256

#    Clocks	25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Sample Device for accelerated server:

# Section "Device"
#    Identifier	"Actix GE32+ 2MB"
#    VendorName	"Actix"
#    BoardName	"GE32+"
#    Ramdac	"ATT20C490"
#    Dacspeed	110
#    Option	"dac_8_bit"
#    Clocks	 25.0  28.0  40.0   0.0  50.0  77.0  36.0  45.0
#    Clocks	130.0 120.0  80.0  31.0 110.0  65.0  75.0  94.0
# EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"
    #VideoRam    2048
   #Option "slow_vram"
# Use Option "nolinear" if the server doesn't start up correctly
# (this avoids the linear framebuffer probe). If that fails try
# option "nomemaccess".
#
# Refer to /usr/X11R6/lib/doc/README.S3, and the XF86_S3 man page.
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# The Colour SVGA server

Section "Screen"
    Driver      "svga"
    Device      "Generic VGA"
    #Device      "Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        #Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     320 200
        #Virtual     1280 1024
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# The 16-color VGA server

Section "Screen"
    Driver      "vga16"
    Device      "Generic VGA"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    Subsection "Display"
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     800 600
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# The Mono server

Section "Screen"
    Driver      "vga2"
    Device      "Generic VGA"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    Subsection "Display"
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     800 600
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64)

Section "Screen"
    Driver      "accel"
    Device      "Diamond Stealth 64 Video VRAM"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     1280 1024
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     1024 768
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       32
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     800 600
    EndSubsection
EndSection

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I'm shortly going to release experimental versions of dpkg and hello.
They'll use the new source package format, which hasn't settled down
yet, so they ought to go in project/experimental.

Unless someone tells me otherwise I'm going to ship them with
`Distribution: experimental' in the .changes file (rather than, for
example, marking the files as `byhand' in the Files section).

This seems to me to be more orthogonal than the alternative, and it
leaves the way open for this to be automated more than it is at the
moment.  I don't believe that dinstall supports this yet, but as an
interim measure it could just treat such uploads as all having files
marked `byhand'.

Ian.


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Hi Everyone,

Seems that everyone having weird SCSI errors?  Well, I too are getting some,
but I'm not sure if it's the CD that's stuffed or the kernel...  Here's a
looksee:

Aug  6 14:05:11 orion kernel: scsi0: MEDIUM ERROR on channel 0, id 1, lun 0,
CDB: Read (6) 00 00 f8 08 00
Aug  6 14:05:11 orion kernel: Current error sr0b:00: sense key Medium Error
Aug  6 14:05:11 orion kernel: Additional sense indicated Unrecovered read error
Aug  6 14:05:11 orion kernel: CD-ROM I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 1020

Does this look like the CD is stuffed?  It's I-Connects Debian 1.1 CD
(July), the only reason I got it was to mount buzz and a couple of others to
maintain the mirror here in Australia as I'm running out of space and a new
hard drive isn't the answer :-)

I'm using an Adaptec 1542CF isa scsi controller with a NEC CDR55-JD scsi
cdrom and a Seagate 2.1gig scsi hard drive.  The machine is a 486dx4/100
runnign 2.0.10 - I'd *really* hate it for the hard drive to start getting
these errors.

On another look at this problem, it seems that an ls -lR on the cdrom will
bring up this error.....  This time it says exactly the same as above except
the bottom "sector" value is 1348...  Hmmmm - Suggestions?

...Karl

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> The problem with this approach is that it breaks everything that assumes  
> that make is the GNU make - for instance, the kernel. And probably several  
> debian.rules files.

It would probably be a fair assumption to say that make, under Linux, is
GNU make: the average user would have this installed. I very much doubt
that anybody, except very serious developers, would have any other version
of make installed.

I don't believe that this sort of a change is necessary.

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Source: xforms
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:12:32 +0100
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> If the files there really depend on each other, then it may be nice
> to require that each xxxx.el file contains
> 
> 	(provide 'site-start-xxx)
> 
> (as the *last* line so nothing is provided in case of error), and other
> files will just use
> 
> 	(require 'site-start-xxx)
> 
> as needed.

Nice of course but now it happens that package A require stuff from B to be
loaded, but this code for A is always executed before the stuff from B is
executed and so A fails unless, the load process is run again and checks are
made whether something needs to be loaded or if it has been loaded in an
earlier run.

Erick


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Package: compress-package
Version: 1.2-1

Compiling and installing the compress source found on ftp.inria.fr I get a
file /usr/bin/zcat. However, gzip already install zcat in /bin. I cannot see
how it's useful to have both. :-)

Michael
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Subject: Re: Alphas and libc dependencies
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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> All our (ELF i386 and m68k binary) packages are built to build with a
> dependency on `libc5'.
> 
> The Alpha people are not using the standard Linux libc; instead,
> they're using a version of the GNU libc, with a current major number
> of 0 by the looks of things.

No, at the moment the library is installed as /lib/libc-1.93.so with
major 6 (and a symlink libc.so.6 to it). It also has numerous other
little shared libs in /usr/lib..

> As far as I can see we have two ways we can solve this problem:
> 
> 1. Come up with some kind of scheme, more or less formal, for
> modifying these dependencies at build-time.  At one extreme, the alpha
> distribution builders write a wrapper around dpkg-deb which fixes up
> the dependencies.  At the other we come up with an automatic scheme
> for determining shared library dependencies (this will be hard work).

This is ugly, but could be done.

> 2a. Give the package containing our version of glibc version 0 the
> name libc5.  2b. Implement version numbers for virtual packages so
> that we can use one here.

I think 2b should be done; I've built glibc on our alpha, and dpkg, ncurses,
perl etc. I tried letting libc "provide" other packages like:

Provides: elf-libc, libc5, ldso, timezone, libdb1, libgdbm1
Description: The GNU C library version 6 (run-time libraries).

Yes, all this stuff is built from glibc. Most of these are base packages
so that's no problem. Anyway if this would work:

Provides: libc5_5.2.18-8, ldso_ 1.7.14-4, timezone_7.48-3, libdb1_1.85.2-8, libgdbm1_1.7.3-11

it would solve a huge problem.

> I understand that the plan is to eventually merge the Linux and GNU
> libc's, and this'll probably produce a libc6, so whatever solution we
> come up with will only have to last until then.

Would it be very hard to put this in dpkg? Oh and would you like to have
the Alpha patches for dpkg first so you can integrate them into the
normal version (would make it easier for me).

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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> All our (ELF i386 and m68k binary) packages are built to build with a
> dependency on `libc5'.
> 
> The Alpha people are not using the standard Linux libc; instead,
> they're using a version of the GNU libc, with a current major number
> of 0 by the looks of things.

In addition to my last message, here is an alternative I've just though
of. Why don't we just provide dummy (eg empty) libc5, libdb1 etc
packages, and let libc6 depend on them. Then libc5 etc _will_ be
installed..

I think that's what I'll do until Ian has implemented version numbers
for virtual packages (if that's a reasonable solution that is).

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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I thought having a package with
> 
>         Provides: compress
>         Replaces: compress
> 
> would be like
> 
>         Provides: compress
>         Conflicts: compress
> 
> except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package
> was installed any previous package providing compress would be removed
> first.
> 
> Obviously it does not work. Is this because of virtual packages, or did
> I not understand Replaces:?
> 
As I understand it, from talking with Ian, Provides/Conflicts is to be
used when you wish your package to be the only one providing the given
feature. I think that Provides/Replaces is not that strict in it's
implimentation. That is, it will allow other packages to be in the system
with this feature.

Luck,

Dwarf

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Thanks to Ian for the excelent description of imapd. This will close the
description bugs against this package.

Date: 25 Jul 96 22:34 UT
Format: 1.5
Distribution: unstable
Priority: Low
Maintainer: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
Source: pine
Version: 3.94-3
Binary:  imapd pico pine
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 imapd: remote mail folder access server for Pine and others
 pico: Easy-to-use text editor found in Pine.
 pine: An e-mail reader with MIME and IMAP support.
Changes: fixed description fields in control files.
Files:
 f267818bc607ea3bdeaee74d753cc214  2151620  non-free  -  pine-3.94-3.tar.gz
 54f0c9158d29c3d5de815ab67b3a5d60  27446  non-free  -  pine-3.94-3.diff.gz
 8963c644c796694475c74f190043f1b2  99450  non-free  extra  imapd_3.94-3_i386.deb
 baad6b62090ba50927a750db8d70f2d9  74836  non-free  extra  pico_3.94-3_i386.deb
 9e8b4abc932a5b178095cfb80c83b8e4  657764  non-free  extra  pine_3.94-3_i386.deb

Later,

Dwarf

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I'd like people to take a look at what I've done here.  The dpkg 1.3.0
binary package is fine to install and use (and indeed, it fixes a bug
or two), but the whole thing ought not to be moved even into unstable
until we've finalised the new source package format.

The new dpkg contains a bevy of new scripts; the new hello package
should produce the same binary package, but the source is all
rearranged.  For a more complex source example you can see dpkg.

Documentation, in the form of the new programmers' and policy manuals,
will be forthcoming very shortly.

Ian.

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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 02:31:52 +0100
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Version: 1.3.0
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Description: 
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Changes: 
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   * dpkg can install named pipes.
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   * dpkg-{source,gencontrol,genchanges,parsechangelog,buildpackage},
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branderh@iaehv.nl (Erick Branderhorst) writes:

> Nice of course but now it happens that package A require stuff from B to be
> loaded, but this code for A is always executed before the stuff from B is
> executed and so A fails unless, the load process is run again and checks are
> made whether something needs to be loaded or if it has been loaded in an
> earlier run.

Is it actually going to be that hard to just avoid situations that
require this?

--
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> 
> Michael Meskes writes ("Bug#3768: axe info files incorrectly installed"):
> ...
> > 1) Change the source of axinfo (lots of work).
> 
> This would be ideal, of course, but of course effort may be better
> spent elsewhere.

OK, I done that. The axe sources weren't that bad after all, and I
only needed to change axinfo in one place.


-- 
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On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote:

> Erick asked the question, but I don't remember if there was an answer.
> Would it be okay if, when uploading changes to a package, we only upload
> a .deb and a .diff.gz file?

No, it wouldn't be ok.  Why don't you just use your account on master
to rebuild the source packages?  Then you could do basically what you
want.


Guy


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Package: libpaper, gs
Version: 0.2-1, 3.53-4

Oef what do I hate these errors. The "<" char indicates the EOL char.

# cat /etc/papersize
A4 <
# gs -h
Warning: unknown papersize in /etc/papersize
Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
[deleted]

# cat /etc/papersize
A4<
# gs -h
Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
[deleted]

Only one tiny little ugly space f*cked up printing on my system.  Please 
correct this ASAP.

Erick


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On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Craig Sanders wrote:

> Was epoch implemented?  How do I use it? 

Add '<epoch>:' to the front of the version.  The epoch has to be a
number.  For example:

$ dpkg --compare-versions '2' gt '3'
$ echo $?
1
$ dpkg --compare-versions '1:2' gt '3'
$ echo $?
0


Guy


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Herbert Xu <herbert@greathan.apana.org.au> writes:

> #include <fstream.h>
> 
> void main( int argc, char **argv) {
>   ofstream ofst;
>   ofst.ofstream( argv[1]);
>   ofst.form( "%s\n", "Hello world");
>   ofst.~ofstream();
> }

Is this actually a bug?  I don't think you are supposed to call a
destructor directly in this situation.  I would assume that the crash
comes when the destructor is called a second time when the program
exits main.

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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote:

> I thought having a package with
> 
>         Provides: compress
>         Replaces: compress
> 
> would be like
> 
>         Provides: compress
>         Conflicts: compress
> 
> except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package
> was installed any previous package providing compress would be removed
> first.

No, that's not true.  You need both conflicts and replaces to get the
old package uninstalled.

> Obviously it does not work. Is this because of virtual packages, or did
> I not understand Replaces:?

The later I think.  A replaces B means package A replaces files from
package B.  replaces and conflicts together is a special case - the
package will be uninstalled automatically.  That's useful for package
renaming or for obsolete packages that are folded into another
package.  For example, fileutils conflicts and replaces with color-ls.


Guy


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Package: pine
Version: 3.94-2


Here what happens when I write e-mail:

-rw-r--r--   1 truemper students      169 Aug  6 17:37 #pico19247#


Whatever the hell this file is, it shouldn't be public accessible
because it contains what I write inside pine.


-Winfried


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> > > 1. Have you installed the wg-locale (or something like that) package? You
> > > need to if you want to use locales.
> > 
> > Perhaps this package needs higher priority.
> 
> Agreed. IMHO it should be 'standard'. If you don't live in the US, a
> locale for your country isn't really 'optional'. 
> 
> Can you bring this up on Debian-devel? I got unsubscribed a few weeks
> ago. Sent Anders some mail to get 'resubscribed' but I'm still waiting...

Erick


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> 
> 
> Package: libpaper, gs
> Version: 0.2-1, 3.53-4
> 
> Oef what do I hate these errors. The "<" char indicates the EOL char.
> 
> # cat /etc/papersize
> A4 <
> # gs -h
> Warning: unknown papersize in /etc/papersize
> Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
> [deleted]
> 
> # cat /etc/papersize
> A4<
> # gs -h
> Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
> [deleted]
> 
> Only one tiny little ugly space f*cked up printing on my system.  Please 
> correct this ASAP.

ASAP?
#time echo "A4" > /etc/papersize
0.01user 0.00system 0:00.06elapsed 14%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (65major+17minor)pagefaults 0swaps


There you go, in 0.06 second. If that isn't fast, then what is?

Oh, BTW, this has nothing to do with libpaper (I don't know why you
think it does, gs doesn't depend on libpaper, and has been reading
/etc/papersize before the existance of libpaper.)

I do wonder if libpaper does a better job, and I do wonder if
gs really should read "A4 ". Some people were really glad I
added a wrapper to allow gs to read /etc/papersize. Some are
angry it didn't read "A4 ". Well, you never please them all!

-- 
joost witteveen
            joost@rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl
          joostje@debian.org
--
Use Debian/GNU Linux!


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Package: boot
Version: unknown

This may be related to bug report 4019.  I received these messages from
Tim Gray (tgray@hancock.net).

On Aug 7, 11:10am, Tim Gray wrote:
> Subject: Debian Install problem
: Hi there,
: 	I saw your bug report about failure when decompressing the
kernel from
: the boot disk.  Did you get any answer for that problem?  I can boot
: using the image, but when it tries to uncompress it to install the
: kernel on my hard drive, it fails.  I figure any answers yo might get
: might solve my problem as well.  Thanks.
:
: Tim Gray
>-- End of excerpt from Tim Gray

On Aug 7, 11:47am, Tim Gray wrote:
> Subject: Re: Debian Install problem
: Christopher R. Hertel wrote:
: >
: > Hello,
: >
: > No answer yet.  My report is in the Debian bug list.  With your
: > permission, I would like to forward your message to the developers.
:
: Go ahead. Hopefully there will be some simple quick resolution.
:
: >
: > My guess is that there is a bug or version incompatibility between
: > the compression and decompression software.  That would account for
: > both of our problems.  I have no idea why it would work on some
: > systems and not on others.
:
: My case is a bit stranger I think.  It doesn't correctly decompress
: the kernel, but then I can create the custom boot disk and boot with
: it fine.  Then the problem I run into is that it says the kernel
: doesn't support iso9660 which is the filesystem type of the install
: CD.  I have posted my strange case to the debian user mailing list
: (debian-user@lists.debian.org), in hopes of some insight.
:
: Tim
>-- End of excerpt from Tim Gray

Chris -)-----

-- 
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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Winfried Truemper wrote:

> 
> 
> Package: pine
> Version: 3.94-2
> 
> 
> Here what happens when I write e-mail:
> 
> -rw-r--r--   1 truemper students      169 Aug  6 17:37 #pico19247#
> 
> 
> Whatever the hell this file is, it shouldn't be public accessible
> because it contains what I write inside pine.
> 
I can't reproduce this on my machine. Where is this file appearing? You
might check the permissions on the directory where it is being placed
(that usually defines the permissions of files written in that directory).
Also, if you have changed your pine configuration in any way, I need to
see your .pinerc file. (Send me this stuff in private e-mail)

Thanks,

Dwarf

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> Package: mgetty, netpbm
> Version: 0.98-2, 1994.03.01p1-1
>
> See below.  I think these should be left in netpbm - after all, what
> are you going to do with the pbm file without it ?

I seem to remember that the versions included with mgetty fix some
problem with those in netpbm. Would be worth checking...

Carlos Fonseca


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My upload of dpkg 1.3.0 didn't include the file below.  It is an Emacs
mode for editing the changelogs that dpkg-parsechangelog understands.

Try it (on your own packages or on the changelog from hello 1.3-7) and
let me know what you think.

When I know where to put the autoload definitions I'll release a dpkg
version with this file.  I don't propose to use the auto-mode-alist:
the file is named simply `changelog' because it is in the `debian'
subdirectory of the source tree, and binding that filename to
dpkg-changelog-mode would IMO be too obnoxious.  Instead people can
perhaps use a local variables clause to set the mode.

There are facilities in dpkg 1.3.0 for defining a parser for a
different changelog format.  I put this in because people seemed so
hung up on the Emacs format, which I think is dreadful.  However, if
someone defines a standard way of representing the required
information in an Emacs-style changelog and writes the parser for it
I'll distribute it.

Of course I'd be far happier if there were a (possibly rough)
consensus that we should stick to my format so that I can write that
into the policy manual, but for the moment I'll just mandate that you
have to use a format that the latest dpkg supports (so that people
don't need to find your home-grown parser to build your package).

Ian.

;; dpkg-changelog.el --- change log maintenance for dpkg-style changelogs

;; Keywords: maint

;; Copyright (C) 1996 Ian Jackson
;; This file is part of dpkg.
;;
;; It is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
;; the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option)
;; any later version.
;;
;; dpkg is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
;; GNU General Public License for more details.
;;
;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
;; along with your Debian installation, in /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.
;; If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave,
;; Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.

(require 'add-log)

(defvar dpkg-changelog-urgencies
  '((?l."LOW") (?m."MEDIUM") (?h."HIGH"))
  "alist of keystrokes vs. urgency values dpkg-changelog-urgency ^c^u.")

(defvar dpkg-changelog-distributions
  '((?s."stable") (?u."unstable") (?c."contrib") (?n."non-free") (?e."experimental"))
  "alist of keystrokes vs. distribution values for dpkg-changelog-distribution ^c^d.")

(defvar dpkg-changelog-mode-map nil
  "Keymap for dpkg changelog major mode.")
(if dpkg-changelog-mode-map
    nil
  (setq dpkg-changelog-mode-map (make-sparse-keymap))
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-a" 'dpkg-changelog-add-entry)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-f" 'dpkg-changelog-finalise-last-version)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-c" 'dpkg-changelog-finalise-and-save)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-v" 'dpkg-changelog-add-version)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-d" 'dpkg-changelog-distribution)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-u" 'dpkg-changelog-urgency)
  (define-key dpkg-changelog-mode-map "\C-c\C-e"
    'dpkg-changelog-unfinalise-last-version))

(defun dpkg-changelog-add-entry ()
  "Add a new change entry to a dpkg-style changelog."
  (interactive)
  (if (eq (dpkg-changelog-finalised-p) t)
      (error "most recent version has been finalised - use ^c^e or ^c^v"))
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (re-search-forward "\n --")
  (backward-char 5)
  (if (prog1 (looking-at "\n") (forward-char 1))
      nil
    (insert "\n"))
  (insert "  * ")
  (save-excursion (insert "\n")))

(defun dpkg-changelog-headervalue (arg re alist)
  (let (a b v k
        (lineend (save-excursion (end-of-line) (point))))
    (save-excursion
      (goto-char (point-min))
      (re-search-forward re lineend)
      (setq a (match-beginning 1)
            b (match-end 1))
      (goto-char a)
      (if arg nil
        (message (mapconcat
                  (function (lambda (x) (format "%c:%s" (car x) (cdr x))))
                  alist " "))
        (while (not v)
          (setq k (read-char))
          (setq v (assoc k alist))))
      (delete-region a b)
      (if arg nil (insert (cdr v))))
    (if arg (goto-char a))))

(defun dpkg-changelog-urgency (arg)
  "Without argument, prompt for a key for a new urgency value (using
dpkg-changelog-urgencies).  With argument, delete the current urgency
and position the cursor to type a new one."
  (interactive "P")
  (dpkg-changelog-headervalue
   arg
   "\\;[^\n]* urgency=\\(\\sw+\\)"
   dpkg-changelog-urgencies))

(defun dpkg-changelog-distribution (arg)
  "Without argument, prompt for a key for a new distribution value (using
dpkg-changelog-distributions).  With argument, delete the current distribution
and position the cursor to type a new one."
  (interactive "P")
  (dpkg-changelog-headervalue
   arg
   ") \\(.*\\)\\;"
   dpkg-changelog-distributions))

(defun dpkg-changelog-finalised-p ()
  "Check whether the most recent dpkg-style changelog entry is
finalised yet (ie, has a maintainer name and email address and a
release date."
  (save-excursion
    (goto-char (point-min))
    (if (re-search-forward "\n\\S-" (point-max) t) nil
      (goto-char (point-max)))
    (if (re-search-backward "\n --" (point-min) t)
        (forward-char 4)
      (beginning-of-line)
      (insert " --\n\n")
      (backward-char 2))
    (cond
     ((looking-at "[ \n]+\\S-[^\n\t]+\\S- <[^ \t\n<>]+>  \\S-[^\t\n]+\\S-[ \t]*\n")
      t)
     ((looking-at "[ \t]*\n")
      nil)
     ("finalisation line has bad format (not ` -- maintainer <email>  date')"))))

(defun dpkg-changelog-add-version ()
  "Add a new version section to a dpkg-style changelog file."
  (interactive)
  (let ((f (dpkg-changelog-finalised-p)))
    (and (stringp f) (error f))
    (or f (error "previous version not yet finalised")))
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (let ((headstring
         (if (looking-at "\\(\\S-+ ([^()\n\t ]*[^0-9\n\t()]\\)\\([0-9]+\\)\\()[^\n]*\\)")
             (concat (match-string 1)
                     (number-to-string (+ 1 (string-to-number (match-string 2))))
                     (match-string 3))
           (let ((pkg (read-string "Package name: "))
                 (ver (read-version "New version (including any revision): ")))
             (concat pkg " (" ver ") unstable; urgency="
                     (cdr (car dpkg-changelog-urgencies)))))))
    (insert headstring "\n\n  * ")
    (save-excursion
      (if (re-search-backward "\;[^\n]* urgency=\\(\\sw+\\)" (point-min) t)
          (progn (goto-char (match-beginning 1))
                 (delete-region (point) (match-end 1))
                 (insert (cdr (car dpkg-changelog-urgencies))))))
    (save-excursion (insert "\n\n --\n\n"))))

(defun dpkg-changelog-finalise-and-save ()
  "Finalise, if necessary, and then save a dpkg-style changelog file."
  (interactive)
  (let ((f (dpkg-changelog-finalised-p)))
    (and (stringp f) (error f))
    (or f (dpkg-changelog-finalise-last-version)))
  (save-buffer))

(defun dpkg-changelog-finalise-last-version ()
  "Remove the `finalisation' information (maintainer's name and email
address and release date) so that new entries can be made."
  (interactive)
  (or add-log-full-name (setq add-log-full-name (user-full-name)))
  (or add-log-mailing-address (setq add-log-mailing-address user-mail-address))
  (and (dpkg-changelog-finalised-p) (dpkg-changelog-unfinalise-last-version))
  (save-excursion
    (goto-char (point-min))
    (re-search-forward "\n --\\([ \t]*\\)")
    (delete-region (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1))
    (insert " " add-log-full-name " <" add-log-mailing-address ">  ")
    (let* ((dp "822-date")
           (r (call-process dp nil t)))
      (or (= r 0) (error (concat dp " returned error status " (prin1-to-string r)))))
    (backward-char)
    (or (looking-at "\n")
        (error (concat "expected newline after date from " dp)))
    (delete-char 1)))

(defun dpkg-changelog-unfinalise-last-version ()
  "Remove the `finalisation' information (maintainer's name and email
address and release date) so that new entries can be made."
  (interactive)
  (if (dpkg-changelog-finalised-p) nil
    (error "most recent version is not finalised"))
  (save-excursion
    (goto-char (point-min))
    (re-search-forward "\n --")
    (let ((dels (point)))
      (end-of-line)
      (delete-region dels (point)))))

(defun dpkg-changelog-mode ()
  "Major mode for editing dpkg-style change logs.
Runs `dpkg-changelog-mode-hook'."
  (interactive)
  (kill-all-local-variables)
  (text-mode)
  (setq major-mode 'dpkg-changelog-mode
	mode-name "dpkg changelog"
        left-margin 2
	fill-prefix "    "
	fill-column 74)
  (use-local-map dpkg-changelog-mode-map)
  ;; Let each entry behave as one paragraph:
  (set (make-local-variable 'paragraph-start) "\\*")
  (set (make-local-variable 'paragraph-separate) "\\*\\|\\s-*$|\\S-")
  ;; Let each version behave as one page.
  ;; Match null string on the heading line so that the heading line
  ;; is grouped with what follows.
  (set (make-local-variable 'page-delimiter) "^\\<")
  (set (make-local-variable 'version-control) 'never)
  (run-hooks 'dpkg-changelog-mode-hook))

(provide 'dpkg-changelog)


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> But --sparse=auto is impossible to implement correctly on many
> systems, and filesystem-dependent on others !

Depends on what you mean by sparse...  the trick is that you can use
stat() to determine if the file has *any* holes.  If it has none, you
don't try to make new ones; if it already has some, you produce the
maximal amount. You may produce more sparseness than before -- but it
isn't like the application has any way to tell *where* the holes
are... 


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Hello,
	This is not really a bug, just an oversight.  There is no
Timezone information for St. John's Newfoundland.  It used to appear
as 'Newfoundland' in the list of timezones.  There is one for St_Johns
which is in New Brunswick (GMT-4); but none for St_John's which is
in Newfoundland (GMT-3.5).  In fact, the entire Canada subdirectory
off of /usr/lib/zoneinfo is no longer there.

Bruce

P.S. - sorry if this is the wrong location for notifying you folks.


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> Package: fileutils
> Version: 3.13-2
> 
> The fileutils package has an empty /usr/libexec directory in the .deb
> file.  I don't think the FSSTND supports libexec yet, so the directory
> should be removed.

This dir is standard by make install in gnu packages and didn't see
any harm so will not do an update just for removing this dir if you
don't mind.  If someone can come up with serious problems having this
empty dir in the package I'll remove it.

Erick


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> So does emacs, that does not currently provides news-reader:

That's actually a currently reported bug against emacs.  I should have
a 19.32 package built this week (I just got back from usenix +
vacation + office move, aieee) and I'll try and add that.


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On 4 Aug 1996, Rob Browning wrote:

> Is this actually a bug?  I don't think you are supposed to call a
> destructor directly in this situation.  I would assume that the crash
> comes when the destructor is called a second time when the program
> exits main.

It is legal to explicitly call a destructor but rarely needed.  It
certainly makes no sense in this case, as the destructor will be called
twice.

The question, it seems, is what was the programmer trying to do?


Guy


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If someone wants to write an "install-elisp" (there have been some
quite clever suggestions here) some time this week, I'll try and
include it in the 19.32-1 package. 

I wouldn't worry too much about "hundreds" of addon packages -- favor
robustness and simplicity over speed, if there are that many optional
packages we can change the emacs side of the mechanism (and the
*implementation* of install-elisp) without changing the interface.

Please include examples of how gnats, vm, w3, and possibly mailcrypt
would use the mechanism (should be a line or two for each, so this
isn't a major task) just to show that it is as general as what's being
done now (and to make it easier to convince those maintainers to
switch :-)

			_Mark_ <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>
			The Herd of Kittens


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   Package: groff
   Version: 1.09-11

   GNU troff 1.10 has been out since November 1995.  1.09 is relatively
   ancient.  Version 1.10 fixes some very significant bugs, adds a
   LaserJet output device, and more.

Im sorry, I have totally failed to notice this release. I will build a
new package ASAP. I will be atlease a week though.

   Also, the description incorrectly reads "GNU RunOFF".  It's GNU troff.
   Runoff is an early precursor to troff.

I will fix this.

alvar





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In message <199608052156.XAA14224@marin.fdn.fr>, Yves Arrouye writes:
>On Aug 4,  6:55pm, David Frey wrote:
>} Subject: Re: Uploading compress-package 1.1 on master
>} In message <19960804113251.24611.qmail@primer.i-connect.net>, 
>} arrouye@debian.org writes:
>} >Description: 
>} > compress-package: fileset to build a Debian compress package
>
>} compress belongs into non-free, not into devel! 
>} Reason: Copyright-problems (Unisys-Patent)
>
>No. This package *is* free: it only allows one to build a compress
>binary package, which then will be distributable under Unisys conditions.

OK. But isn't the netscape-package in non-free/contrib as well?

>BTW, I read in this list that the Unisys patent does not apply outside of
>the USA. Is this true? In this case, maybe someone in Europe can make a
>binary compress package available?

I don't know.
[Sidenote (just thinking aloud): Has for example Sun licensed it's compress(1)?]

David


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Hello,

I'd like to suggest that scripts, debian.rules etc... use gunzip -c instead
of zcat when the intent is to get the contents of a gzipped file on stdout.
This is because if binaries from a BSD compress package (not necessarily
built with compress-package) will make a true zcat available on the system,
which of course cannot handle gzipped files.
  IMO, zcat means `cat a compressed (.Z) file', because that's what it
does for years. The fact that /bin/zcat on Debian systems also handle
gzipped files is a convenience for the user, but in no case guarantee
scripts that the first available zcat in $PATH will be able to do so
(and again zcat is not the best name for such a command due to historic
heritage).

Is this something unreasonable to ask?

Yves.


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Erick Branderhorst writes:
 > 
 > > If the files there really depend on each other, then it may be nice
 > > to require that each xxxx.el file contains
 > > 
 > > 	(provide 'site-start-xxx)
 > > 
 > > (as the *last* line so nothing is provided in case of error), and other
 > > files will just use
 > > 
 > > 	(require 'site-start-xxx)
 > > 
 > > as needed.
 > 
 > Nice of course but now it happens that package A require stuff from B to be
 > loaded, but this code for A is always executed before the stuff from B is
 > executed and so A fails unless, the load process is run again and checks are
 > made whether something needs to be loaded or if it has been loaded in an
 > earlier run.

That's wrong. If A requires stuff from B we'll have something like:

  ; package a

  (require 'site-start-b)

  ; do things here...

  (provide 'site-start-a)

and

  ; package b

  ; do things here...

  (provide 'site-start-b)


Now whatever the order packages are loaded, it works. If we load a, we
get

   - a starts interpreting
   - a requires b
     -> b starts interpreting
     -> b ends providing site-start-b, so a's require is fullfilled
   - a continues interpreting
   - a ends providing site-start-a

and if b was already loaded b is not loaded again.

The only problem would be with circular dependencies, but then nothing
can help you in such cases...


Yves.

P.S.: Erick, I read the list. No need to send emails twice.


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James D. Freels writes:
 > I took the advice of a couple of individuals:
 > 
 > (1) installed wg15_locale_1-1
 > 
 > (2) already had perl_5.003-2 installed
 > 
 > This did not fix the problem below.  I have verified that the
 > /usr/share/locale and /usr/share/nls directories are present.
 > 
 > >warning: setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") failed.
 > >warning: LC_ALL = "(null)", LC_CTYPE = "(null)", LANG = "de",
 > >warning: falling back to the "C" locale.

The wg15-locale package does not have abbreviated locale names like
the ones Sun uses. Christophe nearly promised he'll add them buth then
you can simply make the necessarily link(s) in /usr/share/locale
(de -> de_DE, fr -> fr_FR etc.).

Yves.


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 > 
 > Oh, BTW, this has nothing to do with libpaper (I don't know why you
 > think it does, gs doesn't depend on libpaper, and has been reading
 > /etc/papersize before the existance of libpaper.)
 > 
 > I do wonder if libpaper does a better job,

Yes it does ;-) That's its big advantage: centralize such bugs in one
place so that we're sure all packages get fixed at once (who said I wanted
to share features too? ;-))

 > and I do wonder if gs really should read "A4 ". Some people were really
 > glad I added a wrapper to allow gs to read /etc/papersize. Some are
 > angry it didn't read "A4 ". Well, you never please them all!

Can you try my gsfrontend.c in libpaper 0.3? It would be nice if you
used it for these reasons:

  - people will benefit from new paper sizes immediately;

  - I think if something else than me provides a working package using
    libpaper, other package maintainers will start adopting it;

  - I won't have to overwrite your gs with my wrapper each time you
    make a new package ;-).

If you use my wrapper (please, please...), I suggest installing the real
gs as 'ghostscript' (a meaningfull name, no?) and the wrapper as 'gs'
of course. Apparently people were confused by your gs-papersize being
the gs that does not handle papersize despite its name.

Yves.

P.S.: I run this wrapper for some weeks now without problems.


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Erick Branderhorst writes:
 > 
 > Package: libpaper, gs
 > Version: 0.2-1, 3.53-4
 > 
 > Oef what do I hate these errors. The "<" char indicates the EOL char.
 > 
 > # cat /etc/papersize
 > A4 <
 > # gs -h
 > Warning: unknown papersize in /etc/papersize
 > Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
 > [deleted]
 > 
 > # cat /etc/papersize
 > A4<
 > # gs -h
 > Aladdin Ghostscript 3.53 (1996-1-10)
 > [deleted]

What is the gs you use? Is it the shell script included with libpaper 0.2
or is it the gs from the gs package, which in turn calls gs-papersize (or
whatever if the name changed)? I think it may be the later but don't have
libpaper 0.2 handy (Joost, sorry if it's my fault...). Please tell me if
the gs you use depends on libpaper.

In any case, with the gs frontend included with libpaper 0.3
(in /usr/doc/examples/libpaper/gsfrontend.c), I have no problems:

marin21# cat /etc/papersize | sed 's/\(.*\)/>\1</'
>A4 <
marin22# gs -sDEVICE=bjc600
Aladdin Ghostscript 4.01 (1996-7-10)
Copyright (C) 1996 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.
GS>currentpagedevice /PageSize get ==
[595.0 842.0]
GS>quit
marin23# 

If you want to use this frontend with the gs in 3.53, you must either
compile it as in

	gcc -O2 -DGS="gs-papersize" -o gs gsfrontend.c

or have the GS environment variable set to gs-papersize because the
default is ghostscript.

So I'd like to close this bug report for libpaper (either it's not
its fault or the latest version has no problem).

Because the bug report number is shared between gs and libpaper, is
it okay to close it for me?

Yves.


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Michael Meskes writes:
 > Package: compress-package
 > Version: 1.2-1
 > 
 > Compiling and installing the compress source found on ftp.inria.fr I get a
 > file /usr/bin/zcat. However, gzip already install zcat in /bin. I cannot see
 > how it's useful to have both. :-)

Hmmm. This is somewhat more complex than it looks like. I cannot just
remove /usr/bin/zcat because it is intimately linked with compress.
If you say 'man compress' for example you'll get the synopsis for zcat
too and if the corresponding zcat would not be provided then I think
users can be confused.

In addition I have no control about what programs will be built by
make-cpkg. A gzip program could even be generated (now that I think
of it, this is something I could check for!). What I want to say is
that it is really difficult to filter things in the generated package
because of documentation, related files etc.

My opinion is that gzip should *not* provide /bin/zcat but rather
/bin/gzcat (and the same for other z* tools). The /bin/zcat program
is just *not* zcat, it also handles gzip files which the original
zcat program cannot do. I think that we should have /bin/gzcat (or
even /usr/bin/gzcat because gzip only should be enough in /bin) and
have /usr/bin/zcat be a symbolic link to gzcat installed by the gzip
package (and not an alternative as I suggested before). And most
importantly people should refrain from using zcat in scripts when the
intent is to gunzip something...
  If gzcat was provided and /usr/bin/zcat a symbolic link to it, the
zcat link would correctly be diverted by any compress-package
generated package and nobody would have two semantically different
zcat commands installed by installing these packages.

Yves.







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>>>>> "CS" == Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> wrote:

CS> I'd like to see a bourne-like shell with perl-like regexp stuff
CS> (mainly sed & grep) built in - i'd switch to that in a flash.

People may say it's called ksh93. IMHO, it may seem somewhat
interesting, but I really don't like it. Look likes tcl... :-)

Please no flame war!

Emilio.

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>>>>> "MM" == Michael Meskes <meskes@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> wrote:

>> What is wrong with 
>> 
>> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}

MM> Note that as my fault. I've been using latin1.sty for so long I
MM> didn't even realize that this was a possibility. Sorry for that.

MM> But I still think we should keep latin1.sty for guess who are used
MM> to it (like me, although I will probably change my files).

Yes, but maybe in a latex-misc package. It surely does not belong to
babel.

Ciao, Emilio.

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>>>>> "IJ" == Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

IJ> /etc/emacs/site-start.d ?

There would be something else inside /etc/emacs or just site-start.d?
If not, it seems we need a better name.

/etc/site-start.d?
/etc/emacs.d?
/etc/emacs-start.d?
/etc/emacs-lisp.d?

Yes, I know would nice to have something that looks like
site-start.el.

Ciao, Emilio.

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Package: procps
Version: 1.01a-1

Running ps as root always shows "?" for the controlling tty of every
process, although it works for normal users.  The problem occurs under
kernel 1.2.13 (haven't tried 2.0.x), both with procps-0.99-3 and with the
new package procps-1.01a-1.

The solution was in the ps(1) man page: to remove /etc/psdevtab (which had
permissions 0000!) and subsequently run ps as root to recreate it. Perhaps
this file should be recreated when the package is installed? 

Carlos Fonseca



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>>>>> "LW" == Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi> wrote:

LW> Ian Jackson (after my deletions):
>> * GNU Texinfo ... HTML.
>> * The Linux FAQ ... HTML ...
>> * The Linux HOWTOs ... HTML ...
>> * My new dpkg manuals ... HTML ...
>> * The Perl documentation ... HTML

LW> I think I see a trend here. While HTML is not the perfect format (e.g.,
LW> it lacks the navigation hints in Info), it is still the only
LW> common

There is a great advantage of info over html: you can search an entire
document with it. I think this is fundamental.

LW> denominator, and I guess most people will have a web browser
LW> installed anyway.

People who have standalone machines might not want to install a www
browser.

Lynx is ugly (JMHO). Can't really use it. Nevertheless, I must be able
to read docs in text mode.

IMHO info is a great format. After reading some discussion on
gnu.misc.disc I'm pretty convinced that it's currently the best format
for online docs (and don't forget texinfo files can also generate
printed manuals) and that we should try it a bit more. The real
problem are the info browsers. The last version I checked of the
standalone "info" program simply sucks. Maybe someone with a good
knowledge of termlib should take a look at it. Maybe add some mouse
support via gpm?

What about xinfo? Is this any good? Yes, I know there is tkinfo, but
it needs tcl/tk...

Ciao, Emilio.

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I have finished draft versions of the programmers' and policy manuals.

The PostScript conversion isn't working yet, but they are available
for your perusal in HTML or plain text (with or without overstrikes).

HTML via the Web:
 http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/programmer.html/
 http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/policy.html/
Note the trailing / on each URL.

ASCII text versions, SGML source and the DTD via anon-ftp:
 chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk:/users/ian/dpkg-doc/

Your comments would be appreciated; feel free to send patches to the
.sgml files if you think it appropriate (but don't send lots of
unrelated patches together).

PACKAGE MAINTAINERS TAKE NO ACTION.  This is NOT an official
announcement of the change to the standards.  If you want to see
what's coming and argue about it (again) please do so though :-).

The DTD was once linuxdoc but is no longer.  I've ripped out
everything that my converters don't support, and added new tags to do
the things that I needed.  I've called it dpkgdoc.  The converters are
based on sp (the SGML parser package containing nsgmls) and sgmlspm
(the Perl modules for parsing sgmls output) with another Perl glue
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Ian.


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>>>>> "EB" == Erick Branderhorst <branderh@iaehv.nl> wrote:

EB> How will these files be read.  In alphabetical or fileposition order?
EB> Some scripts written in these might work only properly if some other
EB> script is executed first.  I can't come up with some proper example 
EB> but I can imagine that this might be very true.  This will force us
EB> to scan the files several times and execute what is in there only if
EB> some specific other scripts are executed earlier.

Maybe they could be eval'ed following some number scheme, a la init.

Ciao, Emilio.


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>>>>> "EB" == Erick Branderhorst <branderh@iaehv.nl> wrote:

EB> How will these files be read.  In alphabetical or fileposition order?
EB> Some scripts written in these might work only properly if some other
EB> script is executed first.  I can't come up with some proper example 
EB> but I can imagine that this might be very true.  This will force us
EB> to scan the files several times and execute what is in there only if
EB> some specific other scripts are executed earlier.

Maybe they could be eval'ed following some number scheme, a la init.

Ciao, Emilio.


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Package: magicfilter
Version: 1.2-5    

There is one serious problem which prevented magicfilter from working here,
and some small glitches.

1. The executable is installed as /usr/sbin/magicfilter, but the (rather
   well done) /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig extracts a filter, in my case
   /usr/sbin/dj500-filter which starts with # !/usr/bin/magicfilter (not bin,
   not sbin) so that my initial print attempt failed with
	Aug  6 19:24:18 miles lpd[13640]: cannot execv /usr/sbin/dj500-filter
   as dj500-filter tries to start a program that's not there.

   A solution would be to do a	s|usr/sbin|usr/bin|  from magicfilterconfig.

2. There is another problem with extracting the filter from the set of
   filters in /usr/doc/examples/magicfilter/filters/filters.tar.gz as the 
   extracted file is not registered with dpkg --- upon removal of the package
   a useless file will remain on the machine.

3. The generated /etc/printcap had a :pl#72:, you could check /etc/papersize
   and then put :pl#66: for letter paper users.

4. The package suggests pbmplus, and we don't seem to have such a package. I
   think that netpbm replaced pbmplus.

-- 
Dirk Eddelb"uttel                             http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd


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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
message to forwarded@bugs.debian.org.

The maintainer listed against each package is derived from the Maintainer
field of the package as found in the development tree; there is an override
file that can be amended to get the right results if you have taken over a
package and do not expect to issue a new version soon.

Variant versions of the Maintainer field for the same actual package
maintainer will be listed separately.

Maintainers with few outstanding bugs appear first, to avoid those with few
bugs being lost deep in the message.

 Package     Ref    Subject

Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 fdutils      4051  access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount

Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu> (1 bugs):
 exmh         3824  exmh fails to start

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 mingetty     3362  Problems encountered while compiling "mingetty" for m68k ar

Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> (1 bugs):
 libwww-per   3611  libwww-perl description: no ext

Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.au> (1 bugs):
 unarj        3641  unarj description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pk

bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. White) (1 bugs):
 gnats        3053  gnats: typo in postinst omits install-info

Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (1 bugs):
 dmalloc      3925  "dmalloc" requires changes for multi-arch support

mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) (1 bugs):
 elv-ctags    2503  elvis and emacs both provide ctags

Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com> (1 bugs):
 mgt          4023  "mgt" requires changes for multi-arch support

adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew D. Fernandes) (2 bugs):
 acs          3559  acs description: no ext
 acs          3851  "acs" requires changes to support multiple arches

Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.com> (2 bugs):
 tin          3787  tin uses /etc/news/descriptions instead of /etc/news/newsgr
 tin          3942  tin cannot find Newsgroup Descriptions

Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 compress-p   4057  compress package install additional zcat
 libpaper,    4058  /etc/papersize doesn't allow spaces

Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenster.de> (2 bugs):
 electric-f   3582  electric-fence description: no ext
 electric-f   4045  "electric-fence" requires changes for multi-arch support

Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 lists.debi   3199  Bizarre message from debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org
 lists.debi   3978  problem (re)subscribing to debian-devel

Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@ed.ac.uk> (2 bugs):
 ispell       2425  ispell thinks `formated' is correct
 ispell       3196  ispell symlinks broken

Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 bison        3955  yacc script uses $* instead of "$@"
 bison        4052  access permissions for /usr/bin/{mkparser, mkparserclass}

Martin Schulze <joey@namib.north.de> (2 bugs):
 zoo          3676  zoo description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 zoo          3961  14 character file name limit in zoo

Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 www.debian   3431  some packages have no information on WWW-server
 www.debian   3700  Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE" ...>

Christian Linhart <chris@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 xarchie       887  xarchie barfs when ftp closes unexpectedly
 xarchie      1275  xarchie clumsy with 2-button mouse

Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu.edu> (2 bugs):
 hdparm       2197  hdparm -c switch
 hdparm       3866  "hdparm" requires changes to support multiple arches

Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet.net> (2 bugs):
 symlinks     3364  Problems encountered while compiling "symlinks" for m68k ar
 symlinks     3614  symlinks description: ext extra spaces

David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs.ch> (2 bugs):
 dump         3949  "dump" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dump         4050  access permissions for dump

Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vacanti@DeSelby.xs4all.nl> (2 bugs):
 diald        3457  diald control file problems
 diald        3573  diald description: ext start blank line

Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com> (3 bugs):
 sam          4030  "sam" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ucbmpeg      3454  ucbmpeg control file problems
 ucbmpeg      3509  mpeg_play puts bogus statistics on stdout

Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net> (3 bugs):
 abuse        3963  abuse
 apsfilter    3224  apsfilter doesn't configure on a read-only filesystem
 apsfilter    3812  Apsfilter should depend on file

jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan K. Rabone) (3 bugs):
 trn           825  trn warning messages corrupt thread selector display
 trn          1845  dead.letter and dead.article are world readable
 trn          2298  trn bug with shell escaping

Richard Kettlewell <richard@elmail.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 majordomo    1881  Majordomo UID wrong?
 repair       1532  no revision number with repair
 vm           4031  "vm" requires changes for multi-arch support

joost witteveen <joostje@master.debian.org> (3 bugs):
 gsfonts      1112  a2gs output unusable by gs but usable by ghostview
 gsfonts      3596  gsfonts description: no ext
 gsfonts      3673  gsfonts description: no ext

mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Nonweiler) (3 bugs):
 ipx          2913  ipx bootup scripts are broken
 ipx          3592  ipx description: no ext
 ncpfs        3630  ncpfs description: summary starts w/ pkg name

sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kleinmann") (3 bugs):
 elviscmn     3562  elviscmn description: no ext
 elvisctags   4016  ref not in elvisctags
 elvisnox     2592  Elvis Compilation Peoblem

Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect.Net> (3 bugs):
 rc           3206  rc terminates on CTRL-C
 rc           3533  Problems encountered while building "rc" on m68k arch
 rc           3607  rc description: no ext

Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz.ch> (3 bugs):
 rsynth       2206  Description
 rsynth       3684  rsynth description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 rsynth       3932  "rsynth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (3 bugs):
 bugs.debia   2296  debian-bugs WWW doesn't say how to find out Debian version
 bugs.debia   2966  bugs2ftp is broken
 bugs.debia   2998  bugs2ftp still flaky

Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> (3 bugs):
 squid        3834  squid core dumps regularly
 tkdesk       3640  tkdesk description: ext start indented
 tkdesk, tk   3842  tkdesksh grows really large

Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (3 bugs):
 grep         3595  grep description: no ext
 grep         3957  Debian 1.1: bug in /etc/init.d/kerneld?
 strace       2177  "strace -ff -o file dpkg --install foo.deb" causes dpkg to 

Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 groff        2233  groff-1.09-4
 groff        2970  soelim [in groff] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 groff        4013  groff version is old

Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac.uk> (4 bugs):
 nas          1747  nas: no manpages for au available
 nas          3107  nas postinst could use a warning
 nas          3510  removal of nas doesn't kill 'au' daemon
 umsdos       3885  "umsdos' requires changes to support multiple arches

Christophe Le Bars <clebars@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 tkmail       3901  "dotlock" should be setgid mail
 tkmail       4025  "tkmail" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcoral       3654  xcoral description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xtel         4037  "xtel" requires changes for multi-arch support

Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.net> (4 bugs):
 procmail     3197  wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/procmail
 procmail     3349  Problems encountered while compiling "procmail" for m68k ar
 procmail     3644  procmail description: no ext
 procmail     3705  procmail does close(-1)

Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 setserial    2892  setserial marked as Essential when it isn't
 setserial    3638  setserial description: no ext
 setserial    3747  "setserial" doesn't support multiple architectures.
 setserial    3762  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usually hangs machine
 setserial    3800  setserial should not be essential

Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de> (5 bugs):
 sysklogd     3060  problems with new sysklogd-1.3-3
 sysklogd     3103  "/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart" does not restart klogd
 sysklogd     3324  Non-existant conffile not created.
 sysklogd     3769  problems with sysklogd postinst
 sysklogd     4049  access permissions for sysklogd

Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.org> (5 bugs):
 termcap-co    797  /etc/termcap console keydefs for function keys
 termcap-co    836  Possible bugs in termcap system
 termcap-co   1045  tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd)
 termcap-co   1803  /etc/termcap linux definition incomplete
 termcap-co   3721  Problems while compiling "termcap-compat" on m68k arch

Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> (5 bugs):
 dlltools     3578  dlltools description: no ext
 xpaint       3475  xpaint Recommends pbmplus
 xpaint       3699  xpaint description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xterm-colo   2353  postrm script broken
 xterm-colo   2710  colour xterm has problems when resizing

debian-devel@pixar.com (5 bugs):
 general      2022  utmp corruption
 general      2481  /sbin/ldconfig in scripts
 general      2717  conffiles in /usr
 general      3066  a.out binaries in various packages
 general      3161  Newbie 1.1beta installation.

Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at> (5 bugs):
 cnews        3476  cnews description is gibberish
 cnews        3852  "cnews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cnews, ine   3477  cnews and inews should be same package
 inews        3862  "inews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 nntp         3869  "nntp" requires changes to support multiple arches

gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R. Thomas) (5 bugs):
 dld          1488  dld control file dsccription problem
 dld          2209  Description
 dld          2758  dld: missing source file
 dld          3572  dld description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pkg 
 dld          3853  "dld" requires changes to support multiple arches

dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor) (5 bugs):
 cdtool       2450  `cdir' prints out huge chunks of /etc/passwd !
 cdtool       2923  CD-ROM device /dev/hdc permissions
 cdtool       3929  "cdtool" requires changes for multi-arch support
 unclutter    4042  "unclutter" requires changes for multi-arch support
 vim          3924  "vim" requires changes for multi-arch support

dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (5 bugs):
 biff         3915  "biff" requires changes for multi-arch support
 byacc        3361  Problems encountered while compiling "byacc" for m68k arch
 byacc        3567  byacc description: no ext
 xwpe         2486  Ghost packages
 xwpe         3675  xwpe description: no ext

awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.P. Guy) (6 bugs):
 dchanges     3305  dchanges: urg= override is ignored
 dchanges     3530  dchanges can create bad changes file
 dchanges     3531  dchanges should default to '- -' not 'misc extra'
 dchanges     4003  minor typo in dchanges
 dpkg-ftp     2870  dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug
 dpkg-ftp     2933  dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002

Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> (6 bugs):
 ae           3795  ae should not be essential
 ae           3946  "zyxel" requires changes for multi-arch support
 pine         2365  Pine erases message before I can read it
 pine         2367  Pine supplies PATH line when posting news
 pine         3253  Pine over-encodes files (came from Bug#932)
 pine         4059  public readable editor-backups in pine

Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu> (6 bugs):
 bdflush      3554  bdflush description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 login        3227  login refuses, and then allows, root login on tty?
 login        3439  Login reconfigures serial port
 login        3775  upgrading login temporarily breaks it
 passwd       3408  Various bugs in passwd manpages
 passwd       3798  passwd should not be essential

dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 workbone     1381  workbone postinst fails
 workbone     1973  workbone postinst needs rewording
 workbone     1984  dpkg won't install cdtool
 workbone     3382  workbone disappears during upgrade
 workbone     3664  workbone description: no ext
 workbone     3888  "workbone" requires changes to support multiple arches

Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de> (6 bugs):
 netstd       3980  netstd many compiler warnings
 netstd       3996  rdate.8 refers to adjtime(2)
 netstd       4007  identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured
 tcpdump      3742  tcpdump doesn't notice icmp packets on PPP interface
 wu-ftpd      3447  Wu-ftpd prompts for installation of /home/ftp twice
 wu-ftpd      3471  wu-ftpd postinst question asked twice

Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com> (6 bugs):
 automake     3551  automake description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 dejagnu      3566  dejagnu description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 findutils    1239  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb doesn't exclude cdrom and ot
 findutils    3586  findutils description: no ext
 gwm          3594  gwm description: no ext
 oleo         3631  oleo description: no ext

Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk> (6 bugs):
 xcompat      3246  Cant load library libXt.so.6
 xcontrib     1981  xman fails to format ascii(7) correctly
 xcontrib     3857  listres dumps core
 xcontrib     3954  xload dont needs tu run suid
 xcontrib     4036  "xcontrib" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xtrlock      4041  "xtrlock" requires changes for multi-arch support

joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org> (6 bugs):
 gnuplot      3587  gnuplot description: no ext
 pixmap       3962  Pixmap "calloc" problem
 xosview      3385  xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (again)
 xosview      3737  xosview uses -O3 -f...
 xosview      3873  Xosview hangs when a dummy net device is in the kernel.
 xosview      4033  "xosview" requires changes for multi-arch support

Erick Branderhorst <branderhorst@heel.fgg.eur.nl> (6 bugs):
 giftrans     3284  giftrans is free
 giftrans     3930  "giftrans" requires changes for multi-arch support
 info          889  Info 3.1-6
 ntgclass     3922  "ntgclass" requires changes for multi-arch support
 untex        4038  "untex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wenglish     3655  wenglish description: no ext

Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org> (6 bugs):
 manpages     2861  glob(3) references glob(7); the latter doesn't exist
 manpages     3165  fcntl(2) references nonexistent man pages
 manpages     3484  broken reference to (un)link(8).
 manpages     3494  ftw(3) typos
 manpages     3844  getpeername(2) man page does not list required header file
 manpages-d   3602  manpages-de description: no ext

Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu> (6 bugs):
 lxtools      3096  lxtools: user error (misuse of -r and filename) gives cored
 lxtools      3621  lxtools description: no ext
 taper        2891  taper documentation is missing
 taper        3115  taper recommends ftape
 taper        3535  Problems encountered while building "taper" on m68k arch
 taper        3643  taper description: no ext

Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca> (7 bugs):
 lclint       3944  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mailx        2009  mailx ignores ^C at Subject prompt
 mailx        2010  mailx misses VM-generated From_ lines
 mailx        2284  mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends mail !
 mailx        2356  mailx -- problems with TMPDIR symlink
 mailx        2733  /usr/bin/mail leaves lock files when disk full
 mailx        2971  mailx doesn't quit on two successive C-c

Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org> (8 bugs):
 adduser      1711  adduser replaces NIS entries in /etc/passwd
 adduser      2309  Multiple root accounts
 adduser      3490  adduser password-setting problem
 adduser      3794  adduser should not be essential
 adduser      3861  when adduser runs finger it display all users mathcing the 
 adduser      3878  adduser --home aborts if dir exists; man page implies other
 adduser      3879  adduser: man page has '=V' strings
 adduser? m   1708  `passwd' not interruptible when invoked by `adduser'

Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.eas.asu.edu> (8 bugs):
 auto-pgp     2211  Description
 auto-pgp     3216  auto-pgp doesn't remove info entry when removed
 auto-pgp     3680  auto-pgp description: ext start indented
 auto-pgp     3917  "auto-pgp" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dosemu       1791  dosemu troubles
 dosemu       3671  dosemu description: no ext
 dosemu       4048  access permissions for /usr/bin/dos
 dosemu       4053  a) still a.out b) script: i have no 2nd floppy

Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian.org> (9 bugs):
 bc           3727  Problems encountered while compiling "bc" for m68k arch.
 bsdmainuti   3782  GNU nm breaks lorder
 bsdutils      988  `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity
 bsdutils     3815  "ndc stats" fails 
 ed           3726  Problems encountered while compiling "ed" for m68k arch.
 fvwm         3437  fvwm should not recommend fvwm2
 fvwm         3748  Pixmaps missing from fvwm package?
 fvwm2        3407  fvwm2: WindowList infelicity
 xcal         3292  xcal app-defaults shouldn't be conffiles

Guy Maor <maor@debian.org> (9 bugs):
 debianutil   3122  run-parts should ignore RCS
 debianutil   3511  typo on installkernel man page
 ftp.debian   1672  non-free packages
 ftp.debian   2941  lots of hyphens in archive
 ftp.debian   3529  libgr and zlib1 collide, but don't conflict!
 ftp.debian   3810  linux.ucs.indiana.edu is no longer a mirror
 ftp.debian   3903  ae carriage return bug still exists on base disks
 util-linux   3259  [c]fdisk does not recognize NEXTSTEP partitions
 util-linux   3777  mkfs.minix option parsing oddities

Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.north.de> (10 bugs):
 smail        1481  smail paniclog suggestion
 smail        1693  forwarded message from Harald T. Alvestrand
 smail        1799  smail nameresloving problems
 smail        1929  aliasinclude and forwardinclude directors missing
 smail        2348  Smail fails to define NO_PETER_HONEYMAN
 smail        2423  scattered sendmail links
 smail        3046  Smail configuration problem?
 smail        3164  runq dumps core
 smail        3366  Problems encountered while compiling "smail" for m68k arch
 smail        3497  smail calls obsolete yp_order

Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wisc.edu> (10 bugs):
 elm          2557  add to elm manpage
 elm          2562  elm manpage paths incorrect
 elm          2789  elm doesn't show rest of pgp-signed message
 elm          2991  nfrm is not installed...
 elm          3042  Elm produces bogus Content-Type header for PGP signed stuff
 elm          3707  Problems encountered while compiling "elm" on m68k arch
 unzip        3693  unzip description: no ext
 unzip        3916  "unzip" requires changes for multi-arch support
 zip          3692  zip description: no ext
 zip          3934  "zip" requires changes for multi-arch support

Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org> (10 bugs):
 man          2969  zsoelim [in man] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 man          3098  man-2.3.10-11 segfaults
 man          3109  man 9menu unpleasant
 man          3220  apropos dumps core
 man          3725  Another data point on apropos segfaulting.
 man          3739  `man -l -' for stdin doesn't work
 man          3766  "man" acting too smart.
 man          3788  `apropos' matches only word-substrings even in page names
 man          3939  /etc/manpath.config is not a conffile.
 ppp          3808  ppp postinst gives error

Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com> (10 bugs):
 gawk         3328  Problems encountered while compiling "gawk" for m68k arch
 mawk         3542  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3544  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3617  mawk description: ext extra spaces
 most         2205  Description
 most         3158  most differs from man page
 most         3620  most description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 npasswd-bo   3804  npasswd-boulder doesn't change NIS passwds
 npasswd_bo   3495  doesn't respect nis/yp
 slang-deve   3645  slang-devel description: ext extra spaces

Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de> (11 bugs):
 at           2475  `at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format
 at           3394  /etc/crontab has a bad entry
 cfingerd     3250  cfingerd descriptive text
 cfingerd     3433  weird output if cfingerd.conf: NO_PLAN = ""
 cfingerd     3791  Problems with "cfingerd" when compiling on m68k arch
 dbview       3565  dbview description: ext extra spaces
 gpm          2874  gpm will not work if the system is setup for a serial conso
 gpm          3280  (no subject)
 gpm          3373  gpm -k hangs if X server running on console
 rman         3304  [rman] Off-by-one in generated HTML
 xfractint    3186  Can't chdir

Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Uni-Mainz.DE> (11 bugs):
 amd          2497  Fixes for amd-upl102
 amd          2868  amd hangs on tcsh hostname completion
 amd          3208  amd bug
 amd          3445  bug in amd package (upgrade)
 kbd          1901  `compose' keytable command not documented
 kbd          2217  loadkeys problem
 kbd          2238  another loadkeys problem
 kbd          3383  kbd bogosity
 kbd          3907  kbd postinst extremely verbose
 kbd          3985  Wrong parameter type in src/getfd.c
 kbd          3988  Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard maps.

Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresden.de> (11 bugs):
 genscript    3169  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papersize
 linuxdoc-s   3180  linuxdoc-sgml semantics and formatting problems
 linuxdoc-s   3317  linuxdoc-sgml info files are missing all ftp names...
 lpr           902  lpr can't print a PostScript file ?!
 lpr          1061  /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man5/printcap.5
 lpr          2556  "\031\1"
 lpr          3038  SOLVED: can't remove print jobs
 lpr          3156  lpr and smail uuname returned -1
 lpr, magic   3075  lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts failed
 rcs          2302  RCS - problems with msdos filesystems
 seyon        2701  seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't work

daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (David P. Boswell) (11 bugs):
 shellutils    821  /bin/echo doesn't check write errors
 shellutils   1164  who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp
 shellutils   1560  `su' produces incomplete log entries when not in ordinary s
 shellutils   1616  'who' can't find utmp
 shellutils   2068  su doesn't su.
 shellutils   2292  date does not support dates past 2000 !
 shellutils   2345  Inclusion of shadow breaks up some packages in the current 
 shellutils   2959  date + bug
 shellutils   3087  Bug in date.
 shellutils   3359  Problems encountered while compiling "sh-utils" for m68k ar
 shellutils   3609  shellutils description: no ext

jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson, Jim) (12 bugs):
 idanish      3670  idanish description: no ext
 idanish      3913  "idanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wfrench      3687  wfrench description: no ext
 wfrench      3927  "wfrench" requires changes for multi-arch support
 witalian     3691  witalian description: no ext
 witalian     3923  "witalian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wnorwegian   3688  wnorwegian description: no ext
 wnorwegian   3912  "wnorwegian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wspanish     3698  wspanish description: no ext
 wspanish     3926  "wspanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wswedish     3682  wswedish description: no ext
 wswedish     3928  "wswedish" requires changes for multi-arch support

Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.edu> (13 bugs):
 auctex       4021  "auctex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mh-papers    3613  mh-papers description: no ext
 netpbm       3712  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands
 netpbm       3717  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands 
 netpbm       3743  Problems encountered while compiling "netpbm" on m68k arch
 netpbm       3792  Problems with "netpbm" when compiling on m68k arch
 netpbm       3975  netpbm is mostly free
 netpbm       4014  netpbm is missing manual pages
 term         3714  Problems encountered while compiling 'term' on m68k arch
 xless        3773  xless default window too thin and won't go away when asked 
 xless        4027  "xless" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xpaste       4046  "xpaste" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xv           3837  Why isn't xv linked with the libgr libraries ?

Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@marin.fdn.fr> (13 bugs):
 apache       2426  apache overwrites existing home page
 apache       2703  apache: wrong location of icons and cgi-bins
 apache       2802  apache tweaks
 apache       2812  Apache server: SECURITY HOLE
 apache       2814  Apache 1.0.3: wrong manpage
 apache       2872  Apache starts several times
 apache       2934  Some cgi scripts don't work
 apache       3384  apache leaves /var/log/httpd non-empty
 apache       3448  Apache purge gives several error message
 apache       3470  apache problems
 apache       3555  apache description: ext extra spaces
 apache       3940  Apache's default index.html says "CERN"
 apache       3969  Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole

Erick Branderhorst <branderh@debian.org> (14 bugs):
 fileutils    4006  Fileutils has /usr/libexec directory
 glibcdoc     2906  Inconsistency in libc.info re snprintf
 idutch       3672  idutch description: no ext
 idutch       3931  "idutch" requires changes for multi-arch support
 latex        3415  Xdvi and postscript fonts
 latex        3832  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        3835  Problem with Latex installation
 latex,xdvi   2054  no subject (file transmission)
 mathpad      2231  mathpad problems
 mathpad      3312  installation and startup problems with mathpad
 mflib        2185  texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?
 mflib        3323  MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk
 wdutch       3697  wdutch description: no ext
 wdutch       3914  "wdutch" requires changes for multi-arch support

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lot49.med.miami.edu> (14 bugs):
 mh           2334  MH scan -width dumps core
 mh           2346  MH can lose mail
 mh           2648  
 mh           2661  dist and mh both have a dist manpage
 ncurses-ba   2863  dselect and ncurses in select window
 ncurses-ba   3163  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 ncurses-ba   3843  dselect resets automargins in xterm and vt220, not console
 ncurses-bi   2076  reset(1)
 ncurses-bi   2474  /usr/bin/reset does the wrong thing
 ncurses-bi   3191  reset(1) doesn't bring an xterm out of alt charset mode
 ncurses-bi   3192  tset(1) man page problem
 ncurses-bi   3829  tic.1 refers to unavailable infotocap command.
 ncurses-bi   3830  captoinfo confused by /etc/termcap entries
 ncurses-te   2158  new ncurses bug ?

dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silber) (17 bugs):
 dbackup      1406  backup postrm can fail when it shouldn't
 fortune      1118  fortune is setuid games ?!
 fortune      3213  fortune need libc.so.4
 fortune      3571  fortune description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 fortune      3818  fortune is still a.out !
 fortune      3855  "fortune" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         1265  Misc. uucp bugs
 uucp         2198  uuxqt can't execute rmail
 uucp         2293  uucp should compress big files in /usr/doc/uucp
 uucp         2810  uucp postrm should use -f flag to rm
 uucp         3112  UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and does not create it)
 uucp         3503  still a.out (and src doesn't build binary *.deb out of the 
 uucp         3711  Problems encountered while compiling "uucp" on m68k arch
 uucp         3816  uucp is still a.out
 uucp         3890  "uucp" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         3936  uutraf dumps core in gmtime()
 uucp         3937  uutraf has repeated words in messages and is not explicit

Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org> (17 bugs):
 bind         2530  bind locks up system
 bind         2819  named loses (in an easily fixed way) on 1.2.13 kernels
 bind         3478  bind should use lowercase `none' in postinst
 bind         3505  ndc does not use start-stop-daemon
 bind         3507  named postinst mangled my configuration
 bind         3966  nslookup: fatal flex scanner internal error--end of buffer 
 ddd-smotif   3307  ddd-smotif does not replace ddd
 deliver      3319  deliver does not set exit codes as expected by sendmail
 maelstrom    3287  (no subject)
 motifnls     4028  "motifnls" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mount        2304  umount calls gethostbyname() at consequence
 mount        3993  users can't umount user mounts
 sendmail     3151  Sendmail runs too late
 sendmail     3752  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3753  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3754  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3756  sendmail has wrong path to procmail

Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosoft.com> (17 bugs):
 ee           3728  Problems while compiling "ee" for m68k arch.
 indent       3532  Problems encountered while building "indent" on m68k arch
 nvi          2382  would like `view' link for nvi
 nvi          2428  nvi segmentation faults
 nvi          2797  nvi dumped core?
 nvi          2825  restricted movement in nvi
 nvi          2832  nvi likes turning auto-margins off
 nvi          2855  nvi changes xterm settings...
 nvi          3035  nvi dumps core
 nvi          3166  SIGSEGV on TERM=dumb
 nvi          3189  nvi over-cautious about .exrc?
 nvi          3234  nvi segfaults if stty rows 0 columns 0
 nvi          3235  nvi gives unhelpful message for unknown TERM type
 nvi          3634  nvi description: no ext
 nvi          3729  Problems while compiling "nvi" for m68k arch.
 nvi          3967  hex codes instead of 8-bit characters
 nvi          3973  Home/End keys don't work right in nvi

Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.org> (18 bugs):
 acm          1366  acm networking problems
 acm          3548  acm description: no ext
 acm          3849  "acm" requires changes to support multiple arches
 aout-librl   3553  aout-librl description: no ext
 metamail     3340  Problems encountered while compiling "metamail" for m68k ar
 pmake        3629  pmake description: no ext
 pmake        3793  bsd.lib.mk incompatible with GNU ar
 rootdisk     2945  Bus Error given by rootdisk
 rootdisk     3142  1.1 installation and large partitions
 rootdisk     3147  May 19 boot floppies...
 rootdisk     3272  bug in root disks...
 rootdisk     3420  Boot disk creats corrupted filesystems in some situations
 rootdisk     3451  Missing label 'llseek' in e2fsck - rootdisk
 rootdisk     3488  basedisks modconf problems
 rootdisk     3489  basedisks configuration problems
 rootdisk     3491  basedisks newly booted system problems
 rootdisk     3892  mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbol 'llseek'
 rootdisk     3968  installation checks for CD-ROM too often

Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> (18 bugs):
 inn          2112  Submission for INN doc file
 inn          2220  INN feed password interacts badly with trn XMODE READER
 inn          2822  Some minor glitches with the inn package
 inn          3153  inn ctlinnd not readable/executable, but /var/run/innd is !
 inn          3459  inn should Depend on inewsinn, not contain it
 inn          3462  INN postinst and configuration problems
 inn          3517  innd won't remove syslog.conf lines when purged
 inn          3950  INN message size limitation to 350K does not work
 minicom      3601  minicom description: no ext
 nis          3632  nis description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 nis          3833  Manual pages for some yp* programs in nis
 sysvinit     2439  rc?.d scripts sometimes not run
 sysvinit     2796  sysvinit makes obsolete symbolic link
 sysvinit     2908  mesg sets wrong permissions on /dev/ttyp*
 sysvinit     3130  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3140  /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bugs
 sysvinit     3143  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3290  sysvinit path doesn't include /usr/local/{,s}bin

Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.superlink.net> (19 bugs):
 mc           2823  mc segfaults on reconnect of ftpfs
 mc           3128  mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1
 mc           3245  mc should depend on gpm
 mc           3521  mc core dumps
 mc           3547  Problems encountered while compiling "mc" on m68k arch
 mc (Midnig   2242  mc should depend on ncurses3.0
 timezone     2167  timezone zdump for US zones gives GMT instead of local time
 timezone     2169  timezone zdump utility should be able to dump files
 timezone     2170  timezone: it needs more documentation
 timezone     2171  timezone: how to determine zone setting?
 timezone     2275  ctime(3) should be replaced by newctime(3)
 timezone     2671  timezone Mexico/General doesn't switch to DST
 timezone     2682  Zoneinfo library has a name-clash with compression library
 timezone     2785  Timezone has static library?
 timezone     3084  missing timezones
 timezone     3363  Problems encountered while compiling "timezone" for m68k ar
 timezone     3647  timezone description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 timezone     3799  timezone should not be essential
 timezone?,   2942  Wrong timezone for Europe/Warsaw?

Steve Greenland <stevegr@master.debian.org> (24 bugs):
 cern-httpd   1767  cern-httpd installation
 cern-httpd   2268  stale documentation links
 cern-httpd   3124  CERN httpd sends useless cron mail
 cern-httpd   3327  cern-httpd postinst hangs if daemon configured for inetd
 cern-httpd   3370  httpdconfig installs Welcome.html even if index.html exists
 cern-httpd   3467  cern-httpd curious message
 cern-httpd   3486  forwarded message from Cron Daemon
 cern-httpd   3735  cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn on redirect
 cern-httpd   3850  "cern-httpd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cron         1681  Missing files
 cron         1995  run-parts on laptops
 cron         2052  find over NFS
 cron         2338  finds in cron.daily should be nice
 cron         2808  wrong crontab entry for atrun
 cron         3047  cron script problem?
 cron         3099  /etc/cron.daily/standard security hole
 cron         3114  cron.daily/standard script
 cron         3148  Cron: Cannot stat in /var/spool/cron/atjobs/
 cron         3182  cron's checksecurity runs find on NFS mounted filesystems
 cron         3302  savelog seems to be missing from cron package
 cron         3358  Problems encountered while compiling "cron" for m68k arch
 cron         3368  cron's checksecurity still scans NFS servers
 cron         3496  checksecurity patch for nfs mounts
 cron         3876  checksecurity shouldn't search ncpfs/smbfs filesystems

David Engel <david@ods.com> (25 bugs):
 aout-binut   3552  aout-binutils description: no ext
 binutils     1108  No manpage ar(5)
 binutils     1303  `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete
 binutils     2161  elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld can be made to segfault
 binutils     3574  binutils description: no ext
 dialog       2591  rootdisk
 dialog       3514  Required package modconf depends on extra package dialog
 gcc          2493  GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied external ref to static functio
 gcc          2909  GCC Info has funny formatting
 gcc          2910  GCC accepts multi-line strings without \ or " " &c
 gcc          3330  Problems encountered while compiling "gcc" for m68k arch
 gcc          3838  GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it
 gcc          4011  simple c++ program segfaults
 gdb           660  GDB gets address of structure member wrong in memory breakp
 gdb          3515  gdb prints corrupted message
 gdb          3599  gdb description: no ext
 gdb          3823  Gdb's `handle' command behaviour differs from doc.
 snmp         3108  snmpd provides too much information
 snmp         3731  snmpd: patch for hrProcessorLoad MIB variable
 snmp         3882  "snmp" requires changes to support multiple arches
 tkined       4044  "tkined" requires changes for multi-arch support
 tkman        2884  tkman doesn't use /var/catman
 tkman        3681  tkman description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 tkman        3919  "tkman" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xringd       4039  "xringd" requires changes for multi-arch support

Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connect.net> (26 bugs):
 kernel       1707  image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o
 kernel       1744  dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/
 kernel       1759  running out of swap causes deadlock
 kernel       1914  general protection in unix_proto_connect
 kernel       1922  1.3.43 Kernel is too nice
 kernel       1962  kernel needs sbpcd.h editing in some cases
 kernel       1989  mmap bug?
 kernel       2063  scsi driver sequence unreasonable
 kernel       2064  aha1740 driver only supports one card
 kernel       2105  console error messages "Source Route Failed."
 kernel       2463  "msdos" filesystem needed for bootstrapping
 kernel       2470  in kernel Attached ether adapter driver interferes with lp 
 kernel       2692  kernel swap space problem
 kernel       2940  image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape device
 kernel       3019  no 386 support in kernel_image 1.3.100
 kernel       3040  Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel not compatible with my SB16 c
 kernel       3106  v 1.1 beta kernel image not for i386
 kernel       3195  "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fails due to missing "serial" mod
 kernel       3258  pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug
 kernel       3265  kernel-image and PS/2 mouse problem
 kernel       3268  network modules don't work with kernel 
 kernel       3275  dpkg --no-act leaves control info in /tmp
 kernel       3393  printer-driver problem in kernel 1.99.7
 kernel       3397  (no subject)
 kernel       3516  SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can cause major corruption
 kernel       3999  nfs module fails to load

Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au> (27 bugs):
 lynx         2067  lynx -source can't find documents
 lynx         2295  (no subject)
 lynx         2946  Lynx gives fatal error message
 lynx         2964  lynx -dump fails through proxy
 lynx         2965  lynxexec not compiled into lynx.
 lynx         3105  lynx access to dot files is disabled
 lynx         3386  lynx version number changes
 lynx         3469  lynx default home page
 lynx         3606  lynx description: ext extra spaces
 lynx         3846  lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> in <dl>
 lynx         3875  Lynx thinks *.deb files are "text/plain".
 lynx         4005  Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *.deb problem.
 mandelspaw   3176  mandelspawn slave problems
 rxvt         2510  rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts
 rxvt         2989  rxvt source bug
 rxvt         4032  "rxvt" requires changes for multi-arch support
 tcsh          820  tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 tcsh         3396  tcsh doesn't provide c-shell
 tcsh, csh    3466  tcsh, csh should use update-alternatives, not diversions
 tf           2547  tf does not support visual mode
 tf           3886  "tf" requires changes to support multiple arches
 xntp         2051  /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handled conffile
 xntp         2982  xntp calls ntpdate at start
 xtron        1703  xtron documentation
 ytalk        2196  ytalk `shell' option can't run dpkg
 ytalk        2575  ytalk lies about who you are talking to
 ytalk        2699  ytalk doesn't use FQDNs

Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com> (28 bugs):
 bash          818  bash builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 bash         1009  bash problem with quoting/completioon
 bash         1549  bash should not have world-readable history
 bash         1624  thermal run away problem
 bash         1702  telnet+su root->thermal process
 bash         1714  bash is confused when breaking lines
 bash         1746  rsh <system> sh -i produces CPU hog
 bash         1834  [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: /etc/profile on Debian Linux
 bash         2110  Bash tab completion of non alphanumeric characters
 bash         2265  bash `horizontal scroll' can't be turned off
 bash         2301  bash doesn't document any way to safely create tmp file
 bash         2362  bash (readline) dumps core on completion
 bash         2818  bash doesn't provide enough docs
 bash         2856  fd leak in bash
 bash         3174  set -i doesn't work in bash
 bash         3177  sh -nc <command> actually runs command (!)
 bash         3353  Problems encountered while compiling "bash" for m68k arch
 bash         3538  bash on m68k doesn't use ncurses termcap emulation
 bash         3561  bash description: no ext
 beav         3558  beav description: ext extra spaces
 git          3543  Problems encountered while compiling "git" for m68k arch
 git          3588  git description: ext extra spaces
 guile        3052  guile is missing slib.info.gz
 guile        3223  guile installs entry for slib, but no info file
 guile        3508  guile doesn't have right permissions on /usr/include/guile/
 netatalk     2542  No default config files?
 netatalk     2690  netatalk: a few small problems
 python       3442  python postinst is very verbose

Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> (30 bugs):
 autoconf     3839  autoconf wants `nawk'
 cvs          3374  CVS wrappers can't be turned off
 cvs          3970  cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1
 cvs          4008  CVS texinfo docs won't format correctly with TeX
 cvs          4024  "cvs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 emacs        1879  Emacs shell mode weirdness - looks like C code bug
 emacs        2183  emacs shouldn't touch /usr/local
 emacs        2235  emacs eats manual pages
 emacs        2267  emacs ange ftp fails
 emacs        2318  Emacs makes it hard for MTAs to do the right thing
 emacs        2392  Emacs mishandles fonts under X.
 emacs        2417  emacs inferior process buffers failing
 emacs        2431  Emacs mishandles X fonts.
 emacs        2476  emacs mucks up my email address
 emacs        2477  annoying bug in emacs
 emacs        2478  ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd
 emacs        2479  ange-ftp is incredibly inefficient
 emacs        2532  Emacs fails to use `set -e' in postinst
 emacs        2630  emacs package needs to break ctags-related files out separa
 emacs        2634  emacs hung
 emacs        2709  emacs should list /usr/lib/emacs/19.30/lisp/default.el as a
 emacs        2714  Emacs and XEmacs share files
 emacs        2731  emacs with gud creates ~/.terminfo/e/emacs
 emacs        2829  emacs: gdb says: slashes aren't allowed (/etc/termcap)
 emacs        3119  emacs font handling
 emacs        3179  emacs ctags segfaults
 emacs        3241  derived.el fails in emacs
 emacs        3400  gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-19.31-2
 emacs        4000  emacs can't initialize x window
 emacs-el     3569  emacs-el description: no ext

Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> (30 bugs):
 ghostview    1451  `ghostviewR6' conflict with ghostview &c
 ghostview    2200  Description
 ghostview    3598  ghostview description: ext start indented
 ghostview    3759  xxgdb and ghostview have bad Maintainer field
 procps       1016  top has 3's in vt100
 procps       1176  /usr/bin/top segfault with unknown terminal
 procps       1240  ps(1) man page incomplete
 procps       1246  ps man page does not agree with implementation
 procps       1336  CFLAGS shouldn't be used when linking
 procps       1533  `w' produces bogus login@, idle time &c for xdm login entry
 procps       1713  procps: manpage doesn't tell the truth
 procps       1853  top fails after 130 processes?
 procps       1908  Top and tabs
 procps       1933  w from procps gives wrong idle times
 procps       2159  "ps pids" lists more than just pids
 procps       2402  ps no longer understands `g' option
 procps       2427  top d 60 fails
 procps       2460  bizarre output from `free'
 procps       2520  procps needs dependency on ncurses3.0
 procps       2721  free fails to understand recent kernels' /proc/meminfo
 procps       2728  top coredump
 procps       2841  top produces `$<3>' at end of each line !
 procps       2938  libproc is in wrong place
 procps       3080  error message in syslog caused by ps
 procps       3102  top has problems when not on console
 procps       3260  psupdate man page out of date
 procps       3350  Problems encountered while compiling "procps" for m68k arch
 procps       3989  `w' produces corrupted output
 procps       4062  running ps as root does not report controlling ttys correct
 xxgdb        3678  xxgdb description: no ext

Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com> (32 bugs):
 arrl-infos   2737  arrl-infoserv: missing source file
 arrl-infos   3677  arrl-infoserv description: no ext
 ash          2604  ash: cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal sign
 ash          3056  ash-source contains objects
 ash          3718  Problems encountered while compiling "ash" on m68k arch.
 boot-flopp    998  Can't Configure DOS Partitions
 boot-flopp   1032  Linux Counter Project Info Not Included
 boot-flopp   1372  rootdisk: no dvorak keytable
 boot-flopp   2569  bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdomainname?
 boot-flopp   2738  Installing Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2739  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2740  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2850  nfs.o isn't loaded in clean debian 1.1 nfs install
 boot-flopp   3031  various boot-floppies nits
 boot-flopp   3064  need a pointer in /usr/doc/boot-floppies
 boot-flopp   3121  boot-floppies doesn't have basedisks.sh
 boot-flopp   3575  boot-floppies description: no ext
 lilo         2926  Lilo: can't make documentation
 lilo         3247  Lilo unpack removes boot.b
 lilo         3772  lilo should not depend on MBR
 lilo         3813  (no subject)
 mbr          3789  `mbr' package doesn't say how to install/use it
 modconf      3628  modconf description: no ext
 modconf      3740  A couple of problems popped up while using "modconf"
 pcb          3413  linked with aout libXaw
 pcb          3635  pcb description: no ext
 pcb          3872  "pcb" requires changes to support multiple arches
 pcb          4026  "pcb" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rspfd        3881  "rspfd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 syslinux     2774  syslinux: missing source file
 syslinux     3642  syslinux description: no ext
 syslinux     4004  procinfo breaks without modules

Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (35 bugs):
 dpkg          957  dpkg should automatically log everything
 dpkg         1037  dselect user interface (was Re: debian 0.93pl5 installation
 dpkg         1399  dselect error handling not consistent
 dpkg         1480  start-stop-daemon doesn't check process status
 dpkg         1526  man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect
 dpkg         1555  dselect per-screen-half focus request
 dpkg         1642  dpkg recursive package listing doesn't do the right thing
 dpkg         1670  start-stop-daemon is too slow
 dpkg         1797  upgrade/downgrade dependency calculation problem
 dpkg         1818  configure ordering based on Recommends
 dpkg         1921  update-alternatives prompt, dpkg conffile show diff
 dpkg         2531  install-info should use better locking strategy
 dpkg         2536  dpkg inappropriately marks packages as installed
 dpkg         2576  base: selecting [A]ccess with dselect
 dpkg         2603  dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when installing xterm-color
 dpkg         2664  arrow keys fail in dselect not just after search ?
 dpkg         2828  have to install xosview twice to work
 dpkg         2834  desect loses state if it can't find a pre-dependancy
 dpkg         2894  dpkg guidelines info files not recognized
 dpkg         2904  install-info doesn't cope with nonexistent /usr/info/dir fi
 dpkg         2911  Conffiles are deleted too late ? (Re: Bug#2701: seyon: dpkg
 dpkg         2929  dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.
 dpkg         2939  Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction
 dpkg         2973  install-info created 5 Development sections in my /usr/info
 dpkg         3125  bug (and correction) in dpkg-1.1.6 scripts/install-info.pl
 dpkg         3170  again dpkg --root=xxx
 dpkg         3218  install-info adds Miscellaneous section badly
 dpkg         3225  dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems from 1.0.17
 dpkg         3233  dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2nd
 dpkg         3406  dselect unreadable under xterm
 dpkg         3410  some problems/bugs/suggestions with install-info
 dpkg         3704  Weird dselect behavior (bug?)
 dpkg         3765  dpkg and kernel-* package names
 dpkg         3992  install-info shouldn't try to lock the dir file during --te
 pgp-i        3545  Problems encountered while compiling "pgp" on m68k arch

Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org> (39 bugs):
 mkisofs      3480  missing information in manpage
 mkisofs      3539  mkisofs stops if an error occurs
 mkisofs      3540  mkisofs stops if a problem occurs
 mkisofs      3703  mkisofs stops if a permission problem occurs
 xbase         725  twm places windows incorrectly
 xbase         740  xclock leaves `droppings' in its window
 xbase         773  xmh falls over if mh is not installed
 xbase         775  twm reports errors on incorrect line numbers
 xbase        1621  Xmark has no manpage
 xbase        1690  XDM protection fault on X config error
 xbase        1691  X config allows invalid numeric range
 xbase        1819  X11 doesn't set a lock on the mouse port
 xbase        1985  xdm won't redirect to remote machines.
 xbase        2243  xterm vanishes when it's big (some escape sequence?)
 xbase        2297  xterm gets mouse-paste and RETURN in wrong order
 xbase        2313  xterm keymapping problems suspected
 xbase        2360  xdm cannot find a free VT
 xbase        3026  xbase et al postinst doesn't flush stdout
 xbase        3073  xbase contains imake and xmkmf without their config files
 xbase        3095  xbase kills xdm and *then* asks (politely, but belatedly)
 xbase        3162  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 xbase        3267  Unqualified hostnames in rstart
 xbase        3395  can't login via xdm
 xbase        3730  improper lookup of window managers by /etc/X11/Xsession
 xbase        3751  xconsole stops logging when syslogd is hupped
 xbase        3906  Errors in the Compose file for ISO-LATIN1
 xbase        3990  xdm-errors location not what FSSTND says
 xbase        4012  xbase: `window-managers' was un-correctly generated
 xbase        4015  xterm & xterm.color sets broken TERMCAP
 xbase et a   3734  X11 problems
 xbase?       3110  X servers muck up xdm when uninstalled
 xfntbig      3650  xfntbig description: no ext
 xfntcyr      3610  xfntcyr description: no ext
 xfntscl      3663  xfntscl description: no ext
 xlib         3661  xlib description: no ext
 xmanpages    3308  X(1) manpage in wrong place?
 xserver-sv   1292  X locks up
 xserver-sv   3300  xserver-svga configuration
 xslib        3662  xslib description: no ext

Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-net.de> (44 bugs):
 amstex       3550  amstex description: no ext
 bibtex       2037  bibtex not searching $TEXINPUTS
 bibtex, kp   1429  several TeX packages Provide themselves
 dviljk       3198  dviljk is still aout! :-(
 dviljk       3202  dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! :-(
 dviljk       3458  dviljk missing prompt for input
 dvipsk       1873  dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize!
 dvipsk       2104  dvips doesn't provide color
 dvipsk       2357  dvipsk generated PS causes `restore error'
 kpathsea     1858  kpathsea package does not install or maintain an ls-R datab
 kpathsea     1865  cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
 kpathsea     2027  tiny bug in web2c debian.rules
 kpathsea     3921  "kpathsea" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxtool      1771  Legal problems with ltxtool
 ltxtool lt   1502  Uniform lists in debian.control
 makeindex    4047  "makeindex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mfbin        1686  psfonts.map can't be found
 mfbin        1934  font scaling problem
 mfbin        2972  MetaFONT linked against X libraries
 mfbin        3077  gray font .mf files missing from MFBIN
 mgetty       3372  mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax script
 mgetty       3896  /sbin/mgetty is not world-readable
 mgetty       3897  mgetty syslogs with priority `emerg'
 mgetty       3898  mgetty has bogus errno in usage message
 mgetty       3899  mgetty doesn't remove logfiles when purged
 mgetty       3900  mgetty doesn't work
 mgetty, ne   3895  file conflicts: mgetty vs netpbm
 psnfss       3135  psnfss has no Architecture field
 texbin       1647  dpkg can present incorrect info for virtual packages.
 texbin       1653  Missing dvicopy(1) man page.
 texbin       1663  TeX comes without configuration script
 texbin       1664  TeX is lacking documentation on the setup
 texbin       1823  texbin postinst failed with error 1, no message
 texbin       2023  latex dumps core on -QUIT
 texbin       2038  tex man page has unexpanded macros in it
 texbin       2621  unstable/texbin install fails
 texlib       2186  national hyphenation patterns
 texpsfnt     2764  texpsfnt: missing source file
 textfm, te   3468  textfm and texlib file conflicts
 xbmbrowser   3050  xbmbrowser man page installed as xbmbrowser.man
 xbmbrowser   4035  "xbmbrowser" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xdvik        2122  xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat convention
 xdvik        2803  xdvi does not handle redraws of includedEPS files correctly
 xearth       4043  "xearth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com> (48 bugs):
 compface     3845  invalid directories in compface package
 less         3336  Problems encountered while compiling "less" for m68k arch
 less         3616  less description: ext extra spaces
 less         3952  Less annoyances
 patch        3348  Problems encountered while compiling "patch" for m68k arch
 perl         1099  perl bug
 perl         1170  perl fails to make headers first time...
 perl         1201  perl doesn't know about includes
 perl         1247  perl <...> globbing only works if (t)csh installed
 perl         1411  perlconfig misses an opportunity to use xargs
 perl         1856  creating perl header files
 perl         1916  perl: wrong entries in Config.pm
 perl         1972  perl should suggest kernel sources
 perl         2182  perl shouldn't touch /usr/local
 perl         2184  perl's sys/socket.ph causes warning
 perl         2241  Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and LC_* poorly
 perl         2251  Perl coredumps while invoking adduser
 perl         2254  perl doesn't initialize variable to 0 or something
 perl         2405  perl postinst messages re unctrl.h
 perl         2440  sys/socket.ph produces spurious message
 perl         2495  perl requires tcsh (as it is currently configured)
 perl         2501  (no subject)
 perl         2502  configure fails if /vmlinuz is missing
 perl         2589  perl can't load libdb.so.1
 perl         2590  new revision of perl does not include suidperl
 perl         2593  perl tries to install in /usr/local
 perl         2658  Errors during perlconfig
 perl         2691  new perl break suid scripts
 perl         3093  Perl dumps core
 perl         3212  Perl recommends nonexistent packages
 perl         3230  why the hell does perl depend on tcsh???
 perl         3242  perl's dependencies are wrong
 perl         3277  nit: perl setup emits a \n
 perl         3283  /usr/bin/perlconfig should be in /usr/sbin
 perl         3295  perls debian.rules doesn't work
 perl         3296  /bin/perl is not updated
 perl         3423  Problems installing kernel sources and sudo
 perl         3434  pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cut/=pod/=item not handled corr
 perl         3770  dodgy `\n' in perl postinst
 perl         3784  perl does not install on base 1.1
 perl         3785  perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") and "mirror"
 perl         3803  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3814  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3847  Perl & G++
 perl         3874  Archive of perl 5.003-2 is broken
 perl         3908  perl h2ph problem
 xemacs       2689  (no subject)
 xemacs       2839  Xemacs problems

Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> (55 bugs):
 base         1699  Install/Config quirks: Missing secondary DNS server, NIS se
 base         1742  /dev/tty has wrong permissions
 base         1855  packages adding entries to /etc/group
 base         1885  base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create higher ttys
 base         1954  setting up the network
 base         1955  base discs still aren't creating /var/log/news
 base         2001  Incorrect ownership of audio device files
 base         2070  /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net
 base         2524  problems with base package
 base         2538  audio devices have different group id than audio group
 base         2688  base: wrong group for rft* devices
 base         2741  First booting with Debian 1.1
 base         2840  Conflicting entries in login/group
 base         2889  no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 boot-disk
 base         2895  base -- incorrect passwd entry for 'gnats'
 base         2920  incorrect entry for nobody in recent "base" package
 base         2927  /usr/info/dir in base confuses install-info
 base         2928  nobody has wrong login shell
 base         2975  [base] missing /dev entries
 base         2978  May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[345]: wtmp /var/log/wtmp No su
 base         3002  majordomo has conflicting group id
 base         3027  updatedb can't run properly
 base         3036  automatic adduser/addgroup in postinst (was Re: fingerd)
 base         3039  MAKEDEV script does not create the random/urandom devices
 base         3070  base copyright string
 base         3149  upgrading base truncates utmp
 base         3183  permissions problems with /var/lib/games
 base         3231  /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not present
 base         3252  base template /usr/info/dir malformed
 base         3314  On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.boot/0serial way too optimisti
 base         3315  Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on 11-6 disks
 base         3387  base leaves /tmp/base.postinst lying around
 base         3409  Could not make boot floppy
 base         3421  /tmp installs wrongly
 base         3493  Teles ISDN card installation buglets
 base         3557  base description: no ext
 base         3761  LILO installation problem
 base         3786  base includes anonymous ftp account
 base         3805  /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as 'idsn'
 base         3809  /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still around
 base         3902  base disks' network configuration oddities
 base         3905  base disks still install part packages
 base         3983  Wrong entry in /etc/group
 base         3994  ae won't deinstall
 base         4002  base wipes out utmp & wtmp
 base         4009  /bin/edit causes error after ae removed
 base         4020  Base shouldn't contain /var/run/utmp
 base, ae     3146  1.1 installation: ae doesn't work
 bootdisk     2937  Copyright message function key incorrect
 bootdisk     2956  beta experience
 bootdisk     3185  Lack of NCR53c810 support on boot disk
 bootdisk     3269  bootdisk silently fails-change instalation manual
 bootdisk     3320  Kernel oops - problem with APM BIOS?
 bootdisk     4017  boot disk doesn't recognize NCR scsi 
 bootdisk/r   3279  ne2000 lockups during instalation

(unknown) (102 bugs):
              3986  inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!
              4061  Debian
 Boot1440.b   4019  Decompression failure on Install Boot Disk
 a2gs         3456  a2gs prompt looks like `please wait' message
 a2gs         3848  "a2gs" requires changes to support multiple arches
 a2ps         1874  a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!
 a2ps         3911  "a2ps" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ax25-kerne   1467  `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-util' should use virtual packag
 ax25-kerne   2762  ax25-kernel-source: missing source file
 ax25-util    2099  slip module stops axattach
 ax25-util    2765  ax25-util: missing source file
 bin86        1281  bin86
 bin86        3568  bin86 description: no ext
 boot         4060  Kernel decompression failure.
 dselect      3991  dselect has confusing and bizarre interface
 elvis        4034  "elvis" requires changes for multi-arch support
 enscript     3483  using args with spaces in genscriptrc
 f2c          3580  f2c description: no ext
 fort77       2919  very bad fort77 installation message
 fort77       3583  fort77 description: no ext
 g77          2852  Bug 2711: g77 does not include info file
 g77          3584  g77 description: ext start indented
 guille       3856  "guile" requires changes to support multiple arches
 j1           3525  j1 hard-linked docs/manpages
 j1           3865  "j1" requires changes to support multiple arches
 kermit       2430  kermit configuration script is hard to read on a monochrome
 kernel-ima   3951  Package 'kernel-image-2.' V2.0.6-0 fails to install
 libc4         911  libc causes rsh to fail on commands with option arguments
 libc4        1130  Stdlib.h problems when using gcc -O-traditional
 libc4        1211  libc __nis_getgrnam() segfaults for dpkg when using NIS
 libc4        1278  dpkg seg faults with NIS
 libc4        1279  Strangeness involving <bsd/signal.h>
 libc4        1378  weird ELF/a.out difference
 libc4        1685  dpkg-split --msdos not correct
 libc4        1774  <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'
 libc4        2011  very silly messages from rsh
 libc5        3190  rlogin takes far too long when remote says Connection Refus
 libc5        3244  (no subject)
 libc5        3338  Problems encountered while compiling "libc5" for m68k arch
 libc5        3541  rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED!
 libc5        3825  0x80b7654 either misbehaves or misdocumented
 libc5        3984  NIS writes error message to STDERR
 libc5 (and   2321  libc doesn't use **h_aliases (hostent)
 libc5-dev    2387  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documented
 libc5-dev    2573  sysinfo system call not in libc
 libc5-dev    3724  nlist() missing from libc
 libc5-dev    3979  <linux/if_arp.h> needs further includes
 libdb1       2483  libdb1 uses not-yet-completely-supported >= syntax
 libdb1       2504  remove -m486 from Makefile
 libdb1       2896  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libdb1       3240  [libdb]: obsolete bugfix
 libdb1       3335  Problems encountered while compiling "libdb1" for m68k arch
 libdb1       3612  libdb1 description: no ext
 libg++27     2610  support for m68k-linux
 libg++27     3626  libg++27 description: no ext
 libgdbm1     2484  libgdbm1 conflicts with some versions of perl5 and man
 libgdbm1     3321  libgdbm.so version number...
 libgdbm1     3342  Problems encountered while compiling "libgdbm1" for m68k ar
 libjpeg6a    3590  libjpeg6a description: ext start indented
 libjpeg6a-   3608  libjpeg6a-dev description: no ext
 libreadlin   2899  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libreadlin   3345  Problems encountered while compiling "libreadline2" for m68
 libtiff3-d   4055  Incorrect .so requests in libtiff man pages
 ncurses3.0   1314  ncurses fails in silly way on TERM=dumb
 ncurses3.0   1997  ncurses linux terminal definition for kbs
 ncurses3.0   2085  /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned
 ncurses3.0   2291  missing terminfo capabilities for xterm
 ncurses3.0   2806  ncurses man pages internal inconsistencies
 ncurses3.0   2962  dselect arrow keys don't work after a search
 ncurses3.0   3113  dselect provokes ncurses problem when window enlarged
 ncurses3.0   3207  strange screen update choices from ncurses
 ncurses3.0   3422  termcap entry too long error
 ncurses3.0   3801  ncurses3.0 should not be essential
 ncurses3.0   3904  ncurses on mono linux console claims colour capability
 ncurses3.0   3974  problem with arrow keys in dselect (xterm)
 ncurses3.0   4054  Missing features in terminfo database
 p2c          3713  Problems encountered while compiling "p2c" on m68k arch.
 p2c          3870  "p2c" requires changes to support multiple arches
 shutdown     3720  shutdown prints "You don't exist. Go away!"
 spice        3155  spice still on my system
 svgalib1     2379  svgalib postinst broken
 svgalib1     2455  can't install svgalib1-1.28-5
 svgalib1     2876  svgalib will not work in a setup with serial console
 svgalib1-b   2311  svgalib has undocumented setuid program in /usr/doc/example
 svgalib1-d   3877  /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d is still a.out
 tcl75        3884  "tcl75" requires changes to support multiple arches
 tk40         3827  Tk4.0's bell flashes the display
 tk41         3953  Tk 4.1's bell flashes the display.
 w3-el        3637  w3-el description: no ext
 win32binut   2650  win32binutils has /usr/bin/flex++
 win32binut   3653  win32binutils description: no ext
 win32gcc     3651  win32gcc description: no ext
 win32libs    3649  win32libs description: no ext
 x10          4040  "x10" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xaw3d        3067  broken libXaw3d
 xaw3d        3755  xaw3d shouldn't automatically install as libXaw
 xfnt100      3657  xfnt100 description: no ext
 xfnt75       3665  xfnt75 description: no ext
 xserver-ma   2039  X server font erosion
 xserver-s3   1796  missing call to ntohs in X server
 xserver-s3   3750  X server inaccessible sometimes
 xserver-s3   4056  mouse cursor in X3 server is cross-eyed

The listing by package maintainer is posted every Wednesday,
and the listing by age of the report every Friday.

Please see the documentation for more information about how to
use the bug tracking system.  It is available on the WWW at
 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/
or
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
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Date: 07 Aug 96 00:45 UT
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Source: netscape
Version: 3.0-beta6-1
Binary:  netscape
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Description: 
 netscape: Popular World-Wide-Web browser software (installer)
 -  Netscape (pronounced "Mozilla") is a graphical World-Wide-Web
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 -  technologies such as "Java" from Sun Microsystems.
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Guy Maor wrote:
> 
> It is legal to explicitly call a destructor but rarely needed.  It
> certainly makes no sense in this case, as the destructor will be called
> twice.
> 
> The question, it seems, is what was the programmer trying to do?

Well I haven't got a clue on that one as I didn't write the code.  But
I guess the more important question is that the crash did not seem to
be related to the destructor.  That is, it crashes even without the call
to the destructor.

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Hello,

I have a question on that topic. I think sparse files are simply generated
by lseek'ing over a block of zeros, which will automatically converted to
sparse files by filesystems which support it (actually they could even
create them if the notice blocks filled with 0's but dont do it). The
question is, which filesystem generates sparse files and has problems with
it? Generally, wht is the problem with sparse files? They seem to be
completely transparent to me (except for cluttering the disk, perhaps).

Greetings
Bernd


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Package: sendmail
Version: 8.7.5-4

sendmail depends on deliver.  However, in at least two common
configurations -- null client, and delivery by procmail -- it will run
perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.
-- 
Shields, CrossLink.


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I don't know of any *unix* filesystems that have trouble with it.
There are some that simply don't support sparseness (like afs) and
lseeking will simply allocate actual blocks of zeros on the disk.

There was, at one point, a problem with one of the Sun bootloaders not
understanding sparse files, which is why you want an option to control
it (in gnu cp, it used to be the default and always on, which broke in
this case) but that's simply the bootloader having a bug, an
incomplete implementation.


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Package: kernel-image
Version: 2.0.7-0

The postinst and prerm scripts of kernel-image have as their first
line:

	#! /bin/perl

My vanilla installation of Debian 1.1 seems to have perl only in
/usr/bin/perl.

The problem is exhibited with:

	$ dpkg --install kernel-image-2.0.7-0.deb
	<...>
	dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post installation script: no \
	such file or directory
	<...> returned error status 2
	<...>
	$

The unpacking succeeds but the configuration fails.

If I edit the kernel-image-2.0.7-0.postinst script in
/var/lib/dpkg/info to add the "/usr" to the path of perl and do
configure it all works nicely:

	$ dpkg --configure kernel-image-2.0.7
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Hi Chris --
I don't know if you have gotten Linux booted yet.  If you haven't,
please let me know.  I'll be happy to make a boot disk for you and
mail it to you by real, old-fashioned physical US Mail.  Just let
me know what kernel you need to have on it, or if you need a special
one.
Cheers,
Susan Kleinmann
sgk@tiac.net
> Package: Boot1440.bin
> Version: Debian 1.1
> 
> I have been unable to boot from the boot1440.bin image.  I have tried
> the
> following:
> 
> - downloaded the image from a variety of sources.
> - used several different floppies
> - erased (using dd if=/dev/zero ...) the floppies before writing the   
>   image to them.
> - formatted the floppies using a variety of tools
> 
> When I attempt to boot, I get the following:
> 
>  invalid compressed format (err=2)
> 
> Then it tells me that the system is halted.
> 
> I've tried entering boot options (such as 'linux ether=10,0x320,eth0').
> When I do this, I get a slightly different error message:
> 
>  incomplete literal tree
> 
> Where do I go from here?
> 
> Chris Hertel -)-----
> crh@nts.umn.edu
> .
> 
> -- 
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> crh@nts.umn.edu              Networking and Telecommunications Services
> 


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Hello,

> This dir is standard by make install in gnu packages and didn't see
> any harm so will not do an update just for removing this dir if you
> don't mind.  If someone can come up with serious problems having this
> empty dir in the package I'll remove it.

The new FHS will include /usr/libexec and a few other changes which wil
require a lot of new packages to be released. Personally I like the new
draft very much.

Greetings
Bernd


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branderh@debian.IAEhv.nl writes:
> > Package: fileutils
> > Version: 3.13-2
> > 
> > The fileutils package has an empty /usr/libexec directory in the .deb
> > file.  I don't think the FSSTND supports libexec yet, so the directory
> > should be removed.
> 
> This dir is standard by make install in gnu packages and didn't see
> any harm so will not do an update just for removing this dir if you
> don't mind.  If someone can come up with serious problems having this
> empty dir in the package I'll remove it.

Well, since Linux does not use libexec, it can confuse users and other
developers.  It should be removed in the next maintenance revision or
before the next public release of Debian, which ever comes first.

David
-- 
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david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
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Hi Richard --
I've made a couple of NCR-aware kernels for friends.  If you'd like
one of them, you might try:
ftp://sgk.phast.umass.edu/pub/boot1440.bin.gz

If you have some special requirement and can't make your own, let me
know and I'll make one for you.

Cheers,
Susan Kleinmann
sgk@tiac.net
> Package: bootdisk
> Version: 1.1.1
> 
> Attempted to install Debian 1.1.1 from PHT cd rom. 
> Bootdisk doesn't see my SCSI system, based on NCR
> 53c8xx PCI Rev 2.0 1993
> 
> This device worked find under Debian .93R6/ Linux
> 1.2.13
> 


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> > Is this actually a bug?  I don't think you are supposed to call a
> > destructor directly in this situation.  I would assume that the crash
> > comes when the destructor is called a second time when the program
> > exits main.
> 
> It is legal to explicitly call a destructor but rarely needed.  It
> certainly makes no sense in this case, as the destructor will be called
> twice.

It is legal, but highly discouraged!  If the dtor is not implemented
with
this in mind (as most are not), then that could very easily be the cause
of the seg fault.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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The "xpdf" postinst needs to add itself to the mailcap file so it can
be spawned by web browsers.

I'd suggest the following in the postinst:

if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
   install-mime	--install --package=xpdf --content=application/pdf \
		--view="/usr/bin/X11/xpdf %s" --test='test "$DISPLAY" != ""' \
		--comment="A generic PDF viewer for X-Windows"
fi


And the following in the prerm:

if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
   install-mime	--remove --package=xpdf
fi

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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> I'd like to suggest that scripts, debian.rules etc... use gunzip -c instead
> of zcat when the intent is to get the contents of a gzipped file on stdout.
> This is because if binaries from a BSD compress package (not necessarily
> built with compress-package) will make a true zcat available on the system,
> which of course cannot handle gzipped files.

Calling "gzip -dc" would be an even better solution.

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[  I goofed on the first message.  Use this one instead.  :-]


The "xpdf" postinst needs to add itself to the mailcap file so it can
be spawned by web browsers.


I suggest the following in the postinst:

if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
  install-mime --install --package=xpdf --content=application/pdf \
               --description='Adobe "Acrobat" File' --nametemplate="%s.pdf" \
               --view="/usr/bin/X11/xpdf %s" --test='test "$DISPLAY" != ""'
fi


And the following in the prerm:

if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
  install-mime --remove --package=xpdf
fi


The 'if' statements can be removed if you want to add a dependancy on
"mime-support (>=2.0)".

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This line in sendmail.mc:

    FEATURE(local_procmail)

doesn't work, because it's looking in /usr/local/bin.  This works:

    FEATURE(local_procmail, `/usr/bin/procmail')

(assuming the procmail package is installed), but it shouldn't be
necessary to do this as procmail is a standard Debian package.
/usr/lib/sendmail.cf/features/local_procmail.m4 should have its embedded
path changed.
-- 
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             <199608062111.XAA01700@marin.fdn.fr> 
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> Hmmm. This is somewhat more complex than it looks like. I cannot just
> remove /usr/bin/zcat because it is intimately linked with compress.

I disagree.  The job of a package maintainer includes the process of doing
things like this to a package.  I have to do the same thing for the tar 
package, for example, where we've agreed that the tar package will not 
provide the 'rmt' executable, even though the GNU tar upstream sources makes
it easy to include and annoying to remove.

The complexity of handling alternatives just isn't worth it for silly stuff
like this.

> If you say 'man compress' for example you'll get the synopsis for zcat
> too and if the corresponding zcat would not be provided then I think
> users can be confused.

By definition, a Debian system will have 'zcat' from the gzip package, since
gzip is an essential base package.  I don't see a problem here.

> In addition I have no control about what programs will be built by
> make-cpkg.

Why not?  I haven't looked at your compress package, but I can't see what the
problem would be, offhand.

> My opinion is that gzip should *not* provide /bin/zcat but rather
> /bin/gzcat (and the same for other z* tools).

I disagree.  Prefixing stuff with the 'g' isn't particularly useful.  In this
case, the 'zcat' provided by gzip is a *superset* of the functionality provided
by the 'zcat' in the compress package, and I can see no rational explaination
for preferring the version that comes with compress over the version that
comes with gzip.

> people should refrain from using zcat in scripts when the
> intent is to gunzip something...

Why?

>   If gzcat was provided and /usr/bin/zcat a symbolic link to it, the
> zcat link would correctly be diverted by any compress-package
> generated package and nobody would have two semantically different
> zcat commands installed by installing these packages.

Why don't you just make your compress package *not* provide the 'zcat'
command, since any Debian system by definition has the gzip package 
installed (since it's an essential base package), and the 'zcat' provided with
gzip is a superset that will always do the expected thing with a compressed
file?

I continue to be willing to convinced that I'm wrong about all this, but so
far, all you've done is to say that "gzip's zcat does more than the one that
compress provides", which I already knew... and then whine about how it's 
hard to make your package do what it should given what's already provided by
gzip. 

Bdale


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Package: xserver-s3
Version: 3.1.2-5

I think this may be related to the mouse cursor problem I reported
earlier.  I noticed this problem shortly after sending that bug
report, but didn't fully investigate it until now.  (The other bug
report contains information not reproduced here.)

I have an Diamond Stealth64 Video 3200 (S3-968 based) PCI video card
with 2 MB VRAM running on a really crappy 1024x768 SVGA monitor that
won't run legibly above 640x480.

I was trying to determine if using the virtual window (server-based)
feature of X was causing the mouse cursor problem, so I shut it off by
using a virtual window the same size of the screen (640x480).  I did
not run a window manager for the purposes of isolating the bug.

If I position any window such that it extends beyond the left edge of
the screen (obscuring a strip of window), then approximately 8 pixels
of the window (the part of the window you shouldn't be able to see
because they're off the screen) appear in a strip on the right side of
the screen.  Pretty bizarre.

To illustrate this graphically, let this little thingy represent a
window where each letter is about 8 pixels wide.

        ABCDEFGH
        ABCDEFGH
        ABCDEFGH

Not drawn to scale, you get.

        +------------------------+
        |BCDEFGH                A|
        |BCDEFGH                A|
        |BCDEFGH                A|
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        +------------------------+


If you position the mouse over A, it still thinks it is over the main
window.  In other words, the mouse knows where it is supposed to be!

This is what the window should look like (since I put the upper RHS of
the window at 0, 0).

        +------------------------+
        |ABCDEFGH                |
        |ABCDEFGH                |
        |ABCDEFGH                |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        |                        |
        +------------------------+

Also, the gray background pattern is interrupted near the right edge
in a analogous fashion to this pattern.  (I'd go blind if I tried to
reproduce the actual wicker pattern.)

        X X X X X X X XX X X X
         X X X X X X X  X X X 
        X X X X X X X XX X X X
         X X X X X X X  X X X 
        X X X X X X X XX X X X
         X X X X X X X  X X X 
        X X X X X X X XX X X X
         X X X X X X X  X X X
                       |------|
                       8 pixels (as best as I can tell)


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> 
>  > 
>  > Oh, BTW, this has nothing to do with libpaper (I don't know why you
>  > think it does, gs doesn't depend on libpaper, and has been reading
>  > /etc/papersize before the existance of libpaper.)
>  > 
>  > I do wonder if libpaper does a better job,
> 
> Yes it does ;-) That's its big advantage: centralize such bugs in one
> place so that we're sure all packages get fixed at once (who said I wanted
> to share features too? ;-))
> 
>  > and I do wonder if gs really should read "A4 ". Some people were really
>  > glad I added a wrapper to allow gs to read /etc/papersize. Some are
>  > angry it didn't read "A4 ". Well, you never please them all!
> 
> Can you try my gsfrontend.c in libpaper 0.3? It would be nice if you
> used it for these reasons:
> 
>   - people will benefit from new paper sizes immediately;

That's not true, the gs wrapper I have reads _all_ papersizes
gs understands. (it gets them at compile time from ps_init.ps or something)

> 
>   - I think if something else than me provides a working package using
>     libpaper, other package maintainers will start adopting it;
> 
>   - I won't have to overwrite your gs with my wrapper each time you
>     make a new package ;-).
> 
> If you use my wrapper (please, please...), I suggest installing the real
> gs as 'ghostscript' (a meaningfull name, no?) and the wrapper as 'gs'
> of course. Apparently people were confused by your gs-papersize being
> the gs that does not handle papersize despite its name.

So, that's not the case any more (the real gs is gs.real, the wrapper
is gs).

What is causing me not to upgrade gs at the moment is this SVGA stuff:
someone (svga maintainer) wanted a patch in that would make a
setuid root gs "safe", but I'm still having problems with this.

-- 
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> 2. There is another problem with extracting the filter from the set of
>    filters in /usr/doc/examples/magicfilter/filters/filters.tar.gz as the 
>    extracted file is not registered with dpkg --- upon removal of the package
>    a useless file will remain on the machine.

a if [ "$1" = "purge" ] ; then  in postrm should remove these filters IMHO.
I suggested this unpacking of filter because these filters take up quit some
space and they are never used.
 

> 4. The package suggests pbmplus, and we don't seem to have such a package. I
>    think that netpbm replaced pbmplus.

I'm sure on this.

Erick


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Package: Umsdos
Version: 0.8.4

Debian linux 1.1 (kernel 2.0.6, libc 5.2.18)

umssync fail to produce the --linux-.--- files. 
By upgrading to version 0.9 of the umsdos programs the problem is solved. 




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Ian Jackson writes:
> 
> My upload of dpkg 1.3.0 didn't include the file below.  It is an Emacs
> mode for editing the changelogs that dpkg-parsechangelog understands.

Do we have an official look the changelog has to have? If so how should it
look?

I won't be able to test your emacs style since I don't use emacs.

Michael
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You (Michael Shields) wrote:
> Package: sendmail
> Version: 8.7.5-4
> 
> sendmail depends on deliver.  However, in at least two common
> configurations -- null client, and delivery by procmail -- it will run
> perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.

And as a result you can install sendmail without deliver and your
mail installation won't work at all..

Sendmail should come with mail.local instead of deliver IMHO.

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Yves Arrouye writes:
> Hmmm. This is somewhat more complex than it looks like. I cannot just
> remove /usr/bin/zcat because it is intimately linked with compress.
> If you say 'man compress' for example you'll get the synopsis for zcat
> too and if the corresponding zcat would not be provided then I think
> users can be confused.

I've found nothing in your zcat that GNU zcat can't do.

> My opinion is that gzip should *not* provide /bin/zcat but rather
> /bin/gzcat (and the same for other z* tools). The /bin/zcat program
> is just *not* zcat, it also handles gzip files which the original
> zcat program cannot do. I think that we should have /bin/gzcat (or

But that means it can do more than the original one. So why not using this
name?

Michael

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Yves Arrouye writes:
>Michael Meskes writes:
> > Package: compress-package
> > Version: 1.2-1
> > 
> > Compiling and installing the compress source found on ftp.inria.fr
> > I get a file /usr/bin/zcat. However, gzip already install zcat in
> > /bin. I cannot see how it's useful to have both. :-)
>
>My opinion is that gzip should *not* provide /bin/zcat but rather
>/bin/gzcat (and the same for other z* tools). The /bin/zcat program
>is just *not* zcat, it also handles gzip files which the original
>zcat program cannot do. I think that we should have /bin/gzcat (or
>even /usr/bin/gzcat because gzip only should be enough in /bin) and
>have /usr/bin/zcat be a symbolic link to gzcat installed by the gzip
>package (and not an alternative as I suggested before).  And most
>importantly people should refrain from using zcat in scripts when the
>intent is to gunzip something...
>
>  If gzcat was provided and /usr/bin/zcat a symbolic link to it, the
>zcat link would correctly be diverted by any compress-package
>generated package and nobody would have two semantically different
>zcat commands installed by installing these packages.

IMHO:

There should be one zcat and it should always be gzip.  This won't
break anything as gzip understands .Z files...

Making zcat point to compress even sometimes will definitely break
things; IME much of the Linux world has been assuming it's gzip for a
number of years.  That seems unlikely to change.

compress is obsolete software; there's never any need to use it to
uncompress things.  Indeed, my experience (err, on Sunos rather than
Linux, so this may not be relevant) is that gzip is much more reliable
even at uncompressing .Z files.  I can't see the need to compress
things using compress either, as gzip produces smaller output, runs on
pretty much everything and is free.

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Package: perl-tk
Version: b11.02-3

Typing "pgs" at the prompt produces these messages:
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/perl5/Tk/DSC.pm line 15.
Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/bin/pgs line 16.

I've got perl 5.003-2 and tk41 4.1-1 for that matter.
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Hello developers,

Package: slrn
Version: 0.8.7.1-3

When I invoke slrn it prints:
slrn: can't resolve symbol 'SLang_define_key1'
and exits.

transcript:
$slrn
slrn: can't resolve symbol 'SLang_define_key1'
$

I am using debian 1.1 kernel version 2.0.0 #8
and libc.so.5.2.18 .

succes


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  Dirk> 2. There is another problem with extracting the filter from the set
  Dirk> of filters in /usr/doc/examples/magicfilter/filters/filters.tar.gz as
  Dirk> the extracted file is not registered with dpkg --- upon removal of
  Dirk> the package a useless file will remain on the machine.  a if [ "$1" =
  Dirk> "purge" ] ; then in postrm should remove these

  Erick> filters IMHO.  I suggested this unpacking of filter because these
  Erick> filters take up quit some space and they are never used.

Sure, that's why I installed "magicfilter" and not "apsfilter" :-) I really
like the idea of extracting only the needed filters.

The problem is the housekeeping which happens independently of dpkg. 

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>   Brian>  If you put the "if" clause around the calls to "install-mime", then
>   Brian> you don't have to actually depend on 'mime-support'.
> 
> That is correct. But would I want this? Now that we have mime-support,
> shouldn't I depend on it? It really is a useful feature. I find it reasonable
> to enfore this via Depends. Otherwise it fails silently and we gain nada.

I think it should depend on it, yes.  I just wanted to make sure you
knew
it wasn't strictly necessary.

In the past, some people have complained about depending upon packages
that
aren't strictly necessary.


> BTW: I currently use what you posted earlier as calls to install-mime, but
> added a ">/dev/null" as I don't like the verbosity too much. As the output of
>         # grep install-info /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm | grep -v quiet
> is empty on my machine, I think you should add a switch --quiet.

I can add the --quiet option, but you must not redirect the output.
"install-mime" can become interactive if it encounters a conflict, and
with no stdout this would cause problems.

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Umm, /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/ is already there, and already the right
place for this sort of thing. Next question?

As for ordering: use require, and then safe-append a section to
/etc/site-start.el, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ALREADY DOES... we don't need
a new mechanism here, just some common simple automation of the one
that vm, w3, gnats, and others already use...

			_Mark_ <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>
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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Winfried Truemper wrote:

> Package: pine
> Version: 3.94-2
> 
> Here what happens when I write e-mail:
> 
> -rw-r--r--   1 truemper students      169 Aug  6 17:37 #pico19247#

That's emacs's autosave file.  emacs will copy the permissions of the
original file to set the autosave file.  For a new file, it will use
your umask.

Since this will happen on any editor that creates autosave files, one
solution would be for pine to create the file with permissions 600 and
then call emacs on it.  Just set your pine editor to "pineedit" which
would be a shell script like this:

#!/bin/sh
touch $1
chmod 600 $1
exec emacsclient $1

Instead of just having pine launch emacsclient directly.  You can
probably put a hook in the file load to do this also if you wish.


Guy


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Hi,

ist it possile that on a fresh new install gcc is installed before binutils
is installed, and therefore fail to configure? If I run configure afterwards
everything is fine. Will dpkg install a package first if it sees that other
ones depend on it?

Greetings
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cas@taz.net.au (Craig Sanders)  wrote on 05.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960805095053.3733F-100000@siva.taz.net.au>:

> discussion so far has concentrated on this. This will require massive
> changes to the system so that binaries know how to use the default

I'd really prefer if people don't put up straw men to attack a proposal.

Nowhere at all has the /etc/default proposal asked for massive changes to  
the system.

Nowhere at all has someone asked that tar be changed to support
/etc/default/tar.

This is just not true.

> BSD:
>
> ---cut here---extract of sample /etc/sysconfig---
> hostname="host.domain.blah"
> defaultdomainname=NO
> tcp_extensions=YES
> ipfirewall=YES
> network_interfaces="ed0 lo0"
> ifconfig_ed0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost"
> route_loopback="${hostname} localhost"
> defaultrouter=203.2.135.53
> routedflags=NO
> timedflags=NO
> xntpdflags="NO"
> tickadjflags="-Aq"
> ---cut here---sample /etc/sysconfig---
>
> NextStep:
>
> ---cut here---sample /etc/hostconfig---
> HOSTNAME=hostname
> INETADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> ROUTER=-ROUTED-
> IPNETMASK=
> IPBROADCAST=-AUTOMATIC-
> NETMASTER=-YES-
> YPDOMAIN=-NO-
> TIME=-AUTOMATIC-
> ---cut here---sample /etc/hostconfig---
>
>
> The nice thing about these types of files is that they're easily parsed in
> sh.  In fact, they can even be sourced in an /etc/init.d/* script to provide
> environment variables (although that might have undesirable side-effects).

In fact, that is the *exact* syntax that /etc/default uses. Except that it  
doesn't throw unconnected stuff into the same file, which strikes me as a  
bad idea.

But then, that's very similar to the BSD style of rc scripts vs. the SysV  
style.

>     - a defined standard for how /etc/init.d scripts should use this
>       information.  e.g. source the file or:
>
>               sed -n -e '/^NEWS_SERVER=/s/\([^=]*\)=\(.*\)/\2/p'

Why not simply source it?

Oh, I forgot - you lumped all of /etc/default together in one file.

Unnecessary complication. Besides, it makes for name clashes.


MfG Kai


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ecl@fnpc21.if.usp.br (Emilio Lopes)  wrote on 06.08.96 in <m0unvdK-000VVnC@fnpc21.if.usp.br>:

> Lynx is ugly (JMHO). Can't really use it. Nevertheless, I must be able
> to read docs in text mode.
>
> IMHO info is a great format. After reading some discussion on

Actually, I have just about the same problems with info that you have with  
lynx - it's ugly, it has a *really* arcane user interface. Hell, it  
doesn't even have working cursor key support!

(And *don't* tell me to use Emacs. I don't want that monster.)

On the other hand, the search problem with HTML can certainly be solved.

Personally, I think what's needed is a sort of extremely light-weight http  
server for this stuff. Shouldn't be too hard; maybe I'll look into that  
when I come back from my vacation. Could probably even be written in Perl  
:-)

> problem are the info browsers. The last version I checked of the
> standalone "info" program simply sucks. Maybe someone with a good

Oh, I see we don't disagree that much :-)


MfG Kai


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miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)  wrote on 05.08.96 in <199608050742.JAA17155@picard.cistron.nl>:

> You (Dale Scheetz) wrote:
> > No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
> > when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.
> >
> > The line in the Makefile is:
> >
> > 	cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all
>                                ^
> Could it be that there is a `$' missing there just before the `(' ?
>
> > There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
> >
> > Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?
>
> Dunno..

Doesn't make set that one?

MfG Kai


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At 1996-08-07 09:57 +0000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>You (Michael Shields) wrote:
>> Package: sendmail
>> Version: 8.7.5-4
>>
>> sendmail depends on deliver.  However, in at least two common
>> configurations -- null client, and delivery by procmail -- it will run
>> perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.
>
>And as a result you can install sendmail without deliver and your
>mail installation won't work at all..

I guess sendmailconfig would have to check for this, since whether you need
deliver or not depends on your answers to the prompts.

>Sendmail should come with mail.local instead of deliver IMHO.

That would work too.

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Just wanted to let you all know that I'm working on a bug free release of
metamail. I'll take over maintaining it since noone else seems to do it.

If anyone else already works on it, please tell me.

Michael
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Due to that silly naming of the pre-0.10 versions the latest upload was
overwritten. I reuploades it. However, dpkg will tell you that you
downgrade. Don't worry about it. lyx_0.10.0-1 is the actual version.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Date: 08 Aug 96 07:26 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable stable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: lyx
Version: 0.10.0-1
Binary:  lyx
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 lyx: High Level Word Processeor (BETA version)
Changes: lyx (0.10.0-1):
                 * New upstream version
Files:
 827be46b1b4f4513a9ed2dbe4849b34f  545887  tex  -  lyx_0.10.0-1.tar.gz
 2a0f44096d9d8f5a68242bbdeada4c9d  12543  tex  -  lyx_0.10.0-1.diff.gz
 c1a03209a54919114a9d632b1321ea32  336298  tex  optional  lyx_0.10.0-1_i386.deb

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Michael

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Package: hyperlatex
Version: 1.4pl2-0

the included conversion script ps2gif incorrectly references the
directory /usr/local/lib/ghostscript.

-- 
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 Package: news
 Priority: extra
 Section: admin
 Description: System news tool. (System V)

In addition the fact that this description is inadequate (which will
have been reported automatically a few weeks ago), IMO the package
name is very misleading - it will make people think the package has
something to do with USENET.

Unless someone objects I shall report this as a bug, requesting that
the package be renamed to `sysvnews'.

Ian.


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>>>>> "eichin" == eichin  <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> wrote:

eichin> If someone wants to write an "install-elisp" (there have been
eichin> some quite clever suggestions here) some time this week, I'll
eichin> try and include it in the 19.32-1 package.

I like the way is done in w3: all the commands necessary to (auto)load
the package are included in a new file, say w3-init.el, which is put
in the site-lisp directory. Than, a single line "entry" is put in
/etc/site-start.el. Something like:

(load "/usr/lib/emacs/site-list/w3-init" t nil nil)

Note that the optional arguments ensure that no error will be signaled
if the file does not exist.

The deinstallation can be done with a simple "grep -v" command.

Just my $0.02.

Ciao, Emilio.

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> As the priority of mime-support is "standard" and therefore higher than the
> one of xpdf ("extra"), I'll add a "Depends: mime-support". If anybody has a
> problem with that, mail me soon, or file a bug report later ...

If you put the "if" clause around the calls to "install-mime", then you don't
have to actually depend on 'mime-support'.

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Changes this time:  Added "editor" virtual package.

Regarding make/gnu-make:  It seems there is some resistance to any change
here.  The argument is that many things assume "make" is GNU Make, and
that having an alternative make is not worthwhile.  Thus I am not planning
to add any make or gnu-make virtual package to the list.



          AUTHORITATIVE LIST OF VIRTUAL PACKAGE NAMES

Below is an authoritative list of virtual package names currently
in-use or proposed and not objected to.  Please check the list below
for things relevant to your packages.

New packages MUST use virtual package names where appropriate (this
includes making new ones - read on).

Packages MUST NOT use virtual package names (except privately, amongst
a cooperating group of packages) unless they have been agreed upon and
appear in this list.

The latest version of this file can be found in
        doc/package-developer/virtual-package-names-list.text
on your local Debian FTP site.

The procedure for updating the list is as follows:

1. Post to debian-devel saying what names you intend to use or what
   other changes you wish to make.

2. Wait a few days for comment.

3. Mail the maintainer of the virtual package name list (Warwick Harvey
   <warwick@cs.mu.OZ.AU>) notifying him of the consensus reached (or
   your suggestions if noone objected).  Please include a proposed brief
   description of the new virtual name(s) for the list.  The list
   maintainer will then post the new list to debian-devel and upload it
   to the FTP site.

4. Go and use the new or changed names.

Warwick.
(based on earlier version by Ian J.)


Now, the list:

X Windows:
----------
X11R5                   XFree86 R5, including base system (obsolete)
xR5shlib                XFree86 R5 shared library only
X11R6                   XFree86 R6, including base system
xR6shlib                XFree86 R6 shared library only
xlibraries              XFree86 R6 shared library or stub library
xserver                 Any X server (used by other X packages)

Miscellaneous:
--------------
libc.so.4               An a.out shared C library, version 4.x.x.
info-browser            Something that can browser GNU Info files
kernel-source           Kernel source code
kernel-headers          Kernel header files (<linux/*.h>, <asm/*.h>)
kernel-image            Kernel image ( vmlinuz, System.map, modules )
httpd                   Any HTTP server
postscript-viewer       Anything that can display Postscript files
postscript-preview      Any preprocessor that creates Postscript output
metafont                The TeX Metafont program
dvilj, dvips            Provided by dviljk, dvipsk (? - iwj)
www-browser             Something that can browse html files
awk                     Anything providing suitable /usr/bin/{awk,nawk}
c-shell                 Anything providing a suitable /usr/bin/csh
pdf-viewer              Anything that can display PDF files
pdf-preview             Any preprocessor that creates PDF output
compress                Anything that provides a true BSD compress command
emacs                   Anything that provides the emacs editor
editor                  Anything that provides an editor

News and Mail:
--------------
mail-transport-agent    Mail transport agents (Smail, Sendmail, &c)
mail-reader             Mail user agents (Pine, Elm, mailx, &c)
news-transport-system   Local news system (INN, C News or B News)
news-reader             Any news reader (trn, tin, &c)
inews                   /usr/bin/inews - local or remote news poster
pgp                     A version of PGP (International or US)
imap-client             Any mail reader capable of accessing remote mail
                        folders using the IMAP protocol (e.g. Pine)
imap-server             Any IMAP mail server

Names of superseded packages Provided by the current ones:
----------------------------------------------------------
gs_x, gs_svga, gs_both  Provided by Ghostscript (gs).  Use gs.
xpmR6                   Provided by xpm.  Use xpm.

Change history:
---------------
22 Sep 1995 Ian Jackson         Initial revision.
26 Mar 1996 Andrew Howell       Added www-browser.
11 May 1996 Manoj Srivastava    Added kernel-image, added new location of
                                this file
19 May 1996 Warwick Harvey      Took over maintenance of list, changed
                                instructions for updating list
25 Jul 1996 Warwick Harvey      Added awk as per Chris Fearnley's suggestion
                                Added c-shell, which seemed to have dropped
                                off at some stage
 2 Aug 1996 Added pdf-{viewer,preview}, compress, emacs
 5 Aug 1996 Added imap-{client,server}
 8 Aug 1996 Added editor


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  Dirk> As the priority of mime-support is "standard" and therefore higher
  Dirk> than the one of xpdf ("extra"), I'll add a "Depends:
  Dirk> mime-support". If anybody has a problem with that, mail me soon, or
  Dirk> file a bug report later ...

  Brian>  If you put the "if" clause around the calls to "install-mime", then
  Brian> you don't have to actually depend on 'mime-support'.

That is correct. But would I want this? Now that we have mime-support,
shouldn't I depend on it? It really is a useful feature. I find it reasonable
to enfore this via Depends. Otherwise it fails silently and we gain nada.

BTW: I currently use what you posted earlier as calls to install-mime, but
added a ">/dev/null" as I don't like the verbosity too much. As the output of
	# grep install-info /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postrm | grep -v quiet
is empty on my machine, I think you should add a switch --quiet.

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Dirk Eddelbuettel writes ("Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?"):
> [Ian Jackson:]
> > Should we move the copyright file (and the examples directory) into
> > the per-package directory in /usr/doc ?
> 
> Good idea.  Can we also recommend/impose to include the Changelog [1] file ?

What is the feeling on this ?

Since the new source format mandates the existence of the changelog
and specifies that it must be in one of a small number (currently 1)
of formats I'm inclined to say that we should mandate its inclusion -
gzipped.

We then end up with two files per package, and it then makes even more
sense to move the copyright file.

> [1] The format could either be free format, or if one is imposed, an emacs
> function should be provided, otherwise add-change-log-entry is good enough.
> We all know that Ian hates it, as he hates debian-changes, but it's real easy
> on the user.

Try out the new source format and tools.  I think you'll like the
degree of automation it provides.  It has its own script to produce
.changes files.

It's also full of hooks and interfaces for you to add to and/or modify
its behaviour.

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The main new thing here is a manpage for dpkg-source and the related
scripts.

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Format: 1.5
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:36:04 +0100
Source: dpkg
Binary: dpkg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.3.1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
Description: 
 dpkg       - Package maintenance system for Debian Linux
Changes: 
 dpkg (1.3.1) experimental; urgency=LOW
 .
   * manpage for dpkg-source et al now available.
   * dpkg-changelog-mode.el installed in site-lisp, but still no autoload.
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   * dpkg-source prints correct string for not-understood tar -vvt output.
   * dpkg-source parsing of tar -vvt output made more robust.
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   * dpkg-buildpackage prints usage message on usage error.
   * dpkg-gencontrol can print usage message.
   * -T<varlistfile> option added to dpkg-source.
   * Description of -f<fileslistfile> corrected in dpkg-distaddfile usage.
   * -m<maintainer> synopsis changed in dpkg-genchanges usage.
   * debian/substvars may now contain blank lines.
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Hi,
Graham William wrote:

> Package: kernel-image
> Version: 2.0.7-0
> 
> The postinst and prerm scripts of kernel-image have as their first
> line:
> 
> 	#! /bin/perl
> 
> My vanilla installation of Debian 1.1 seems to have perl only in
> /usr/bin/perl.

I noticed this too, after having built a base.tar.gz for Debian on m68k.
The bug is not in kernel-headers, but in boot-floppies, which failed
to create the link for the base system. boot-floppies-1.1.1.10 fixed it. 
The bug report should be closed (I won't do that, I'm not the maintainer ;-),
but a new base should probably be built.

Frank (running a pretty usable 'rex' Debian/m68k for a week now)


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Subject: Bug#4054: reassign
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I just found out that this bug is NOT in ncurses but in richtext. It
works
well with termcap but not with terminfo.

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From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?
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Erick Branderhorst writes ("Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?"):
...
> No, the /usr/doc/<package> dir is a dir which normally comes with all
> stuff in it gzipped and I think we should keep it like that.  We can not
> gzip copyright files (this has been decided/mandated long ago) so I 
> think it isn't good to put an ungezipped file in there.

It seems to me that some files being gzipped and some not is a very
weak reason for putting them different directories.  Furthermore, (a)
we could decide to gzip the copyright file if we wanted to and (b) the
documentation in /usr/doc is currently only compressed unless it is
small (according to both the current guidelines and the new policy
manual).

> Minor argument is that the current approach is space saving.  If no
> documentation comes with package an dir entry needs to be created for
> its copyright file, when this is in /usr/doc/copyright this will not
> be required.

Using one disk block and one inode per installed package in order to
allow the user to find the documentation more easily seems like a good
tradeoff to me.

> I still think that copyright file can/should be autogenerated by the
> package building process and provide a default part and a free part.
> Check mailing archives if you want to know more on this.

I'm afraid I don't (want to know more).

Ian.


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Subject: Bug#4070: snmpd: hrStorageSize fix
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Package: snmp
Version: 2.1.2l4-1

The following patch fixes the problem of integer wrap around that
occurs for >=2Gb disks (i.e. sbuf.f_blocks * sbuf.f_bsize > 2^31).
This is accomplished by computing the intermediate values in floating
point.

Patrick.
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--- snmp-2.1.2l4/agent/snmp_vars.c      Sun Aug 20 23:02:21 1995
+++ snmp-2.1.2l4.patched/agent/snmp_vars.c      Wed Aug  7 13:17:24 1996
@@ -3514,11 +3525,11 @@
            break;
          case HRSTORAGESIZE:
            long_return = idx < 2 ? hr_getstor (idx, HRSTORAGESIZE, 1024) :
-               (sbuf.f_blocks * sbuf.f_bsize) / 1024;
+             (long)(((float)sbuf.f_blocks * (float)sbuf.f_bsize) / 1024.0 + 0.5
);
            break;
          case HRSTORAGEUSED:
            long_return = idx < 2 ? hr_getstor (idx, HRSTORAGEUSED, 1024) :
-                     ((sbuf.f_blocks-sbuf.f_bfree) * sbuf.f_bsize) / 1024;
+             (long)(((float)(sbuf.f_blocks-sbuf.f_bfree) * sbuf.f_bsize) / 1024
.0 + 0.5);
            break;
          case HRSTORAGEALLOCFAILURES:
            long_return = 0;                    /* XXX: dummy */


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Guy Maor writes ("Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?"):
...
> I don't think we should move the copyright file.  Most people don't
> ever need to look at them, so it's simpler if they're out of the way.

What about the changelog ?

In general I'm not convinced that keeping things `out of the user's
way' is a good idea - especially given that the copyright file is the
only one that's guaranteed to exist.  If we're not careful we'll have
the user only looking at the copyright file, having achieved the
effect of keeping all the other documentation out of the way :-).

Isn't the name `copyright' sufficiently clear that people will avoid
reading it when they don't need to ?

> We should discourage making a symlink from /usr/doc/<package> to the
> copyright directory.  Maintainers are probably just using the copyright
> more as a general readme.  The copyright file need only contain
> (surprise) copyright information.

I've done this in the new manual.

> I do, however, think we should move the examples directory.  I've
> always thought the distinction between /usr/doc/<package> and
> /usr/doc/examples/<package> was arbitrary.  It usually leads to the
> obtuse arrangement where the example is in one directory and its
> accompanying documentation is another.

Indeed.  I've put this in the new policy manual.

Ian.


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I've made a few minor edits and rearrangements.
The PostScript (via Lout) formatting is now working.

Updated versions are at:
 http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/programmer.html/
 http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/policy.html/
 ftp://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/users/ian/dpkg-doc/

So, what should I distribute in the dpkg .deb file ?  Even the
smallest format, the plain text version, is nearly 50Kb compressed.
HTML is nearly as small as that.

Oh, and is anyone planning to do an sgmlspm package ?  This is
required to format the documentation, and I'm no Perl expert so I'm
wary of doing it myself.

Ian.


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http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ian/policy.html/ch-binarypkg.html says:

   3.8.3 Mail processing on Debian systems 

   Debian packages which process electronic mail (whether
   mail-user-agents (MUA) or mail-transport-agents (MTA)) must make sure
   that they are compatible with the configuration decisions
   below. Failure to do this may result in lost mail, broken From: lines,
   and other serious brain damage!

   The mail spool is /var/spool/mail and the interface to send a mail
   message is /usr/sbin/sendmail (as per the FSSTND). The mail spool is
   part of the base system and not part of the MTA package.

   Mailboxes are locked using the username.lock lockfile convention,
   rather than fcntl, flock or lockf.

......................................................................

Some thought about qmail should occur here.

qmail doesn't use a mail spool directory for security reasons, mail
boxes are in the user's home directory by default.  And, of course,
there's the maildir format for people wanting a very robust system.

I've seen mention on debian-devel of making movemail aware of
maildir.  I suspect that this is the right thing to do.

-- 
Raul


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Guy Maor writes in private email - I hope he won't mind me posting:
> On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > llucius@millcomm.com writes:
> > > I'd like to see where we sit as far as catching up and was wondering if 
> > > anyone has a nice little script that will compare the source directory to 
> > > the binary directory and report the differences.
> > > 
> > > I put together a little script to do it, but it's not the greatest...
> > 
> > It can't be done at the moment, because the information isn't in the
> > various files.
> 
> The information isn't in the files, but it's in the filenames.

I'm afraid it isn't, because you can't tell just by looking at a .deb
file which version of the source it was made from - or even, in some
cases, which source package it came from at all.

The new source packaging scheme and the tools that go with it put a
Source line in the .deb file with the name and the version number if
necessary.

I think that since at the moment all the primary maintainers are
building for i386 you'd be best off to compare binary-i386 with
binary-m68k.

When we've converted the packages you can do what you want easily.

Ian.


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> Package: slrn
> Version: 0.8.7.1-3

What version(s) of slang-lib have you installed? Do a dpkg -l '*slang'
please. Then I can see if it's library-related, which seems to be the most
likely cause.

Maarten

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Sorry, I send the last one too early. I reassigned the bug to metamail
already.

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Thanks for the suggestion, Brian. I'll do that today.

As the priority of mime-support is "standard" and therefore higher than the
one of xpdf ("extra"), I'll add a "Depends: mime-support". If anybody has a
problem with that, mail me soon, or file a bug report later ...

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On 4 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:

> cas@taz.net.au (Craig Sanders)  wrote on 04.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960804114034.6454N-100000@siva.taz.net.au>:
> 
> > On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote:
> >
> > > Package: xbase
> > > Version: 3.1.2-9
> > >
> > > FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in
> > > /var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by default
> > > in above package.
> > >
> > > Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line
> > > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile:" to
> > >
> > > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/lib/xdm/xdm-errors"
> >
> > What's so special about xdm that it's error log files should go in
> > /var/lib?
> >
> > Isn't /var/log (or subdirectories of /var/log) the right place for all
> > log files?
> 
> That's probably why the next version of the standard no longer talks about  
> xdm-errors.
> 
> MfG Kai
> 
> 
Don't no bout that but I think xfs and xdm should log errors the same way:

/etc/X11/xfs/config: "error-file = /var/lib/xfs/xfs-errors

Cheerio, Michael


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  Yves Arrouye writes:
  Yves>  Hello, I'd like to suggest that scripts, debian.rules etc... use
  Yves> gunzip -c instead of zcat when the intent is to get the contents of a
  Yves> gzipped file on stdout.

No way.

  Yves>   This is because if binaries from a BSD compress package (not
  Yves> necessarily built with compress-package) will make a true zcat
  Yves> available on the system, which of course cannot handle gzipped files.

That's why we should not do this. Gzip's zcat supersedes and replaces
compress' zcat as it deals with both compression formats. compress' zcat can
only uncompressed compressed files, but not gzipped ones.  Why should we
cripple our system? 

Come on, Yves, it's a historic fact: compress is dead. As proprietary
standards should be. No reason a GNU/Linux system should try to change this.

We have (gzip's) zcat and gunzip to deal with it's dead bodies. And maybe
your compress installer to create a few more skeletons though I still don't
know why we need this.

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gaertnem@ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Michael Gaertner)  wrote on 07.08.96 in <Pine.SOL.3.93.960807152223.4434B-100000@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>:

> On 4 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > cas@taz.net.au (Craig Sanders)  wrote on 04.08.96 in
> > <Pine.LNX.3.94.960804114034.6454N-100000@siva.taz.net.au>:
> >
> > > On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote:
> > >
> > > > Package: xbase
> > > > Version: 3.1.2-9
> > > >
> > > > FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in
> > > > /var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by
> > > > default in above package.
> > > >
> > > > Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line
> > > > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile:" to
> > > >
> > > > "DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /var/lib/xdm/xdm-errors"
> > >
> > > What's so special about xdm that it's error log files should go in
> > > /var/lib?
> > >
> > > Isn't /var/log (or subdirectories of /var/log) the right place for all
> > > log files?
> >
> > That's probably why the next version of the standard no longer talks about
> > xdm-errors.

Or, to put it another way: IMHO, this was a bug in the FSSTND.

> Don't no bout that but I think xfs and xdm should log errors the same way:
>
> /etc/X11/xfs/config: "error-file = /var/lib/xfs/xfs-errors

But error logs should not be in /var/lib. They should be in /var/log.

IMHO.


MfG Kai


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I've uploaded to chiark:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Date: 07 Aug 96 22:20 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs.ch>
Source: dump
Version: 0.3-7
Binary:  dump
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 dump: Ported 4.4BSD dump and restore utilities.
Changes: Fixed permission bug and corrected Architecture field. 
Files:
 467a808a227d9dbb27ed45e6a538c219  99178  admin  -  dump_0.3-7.tar.gz
 dac5bd2665a46d59099a1fd048ceb570  3552  admin  -  dump_0.3-7.diff.gz
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David
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Package: cpio
Version: 2.4.2-6

/usr/sbin/rmt is a part of cpio, but there is no rmt.8 manual page.
There should be a BSD one that can be appropriated and modified if
necessary.


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Package: lrzsz
Version: 0.12a-5

I've not heard from the author wrt my query below.  I'm filing this
bug to make sure that this issue gets checked rather than forgotten.
Thank you for your attention.

Ian.

Mike Neuffer writes ("Re: lrzsz ? Re: forwarded message from CERT Bulletin"):
...
> I'm not the author, but lrzsz is almost identical to the "normal" rzsz 
> implemetation the only difference is that it gives more status information.
> The diff itself is rather small.

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CERT write:
> Topic:          "Trojan Horse" vulnerability via rz program
...
>      All existing versions of the rz program (a program for receiving
>      files over serial lines using the Z-Modem protocol) are equipped
>      with a feature that allows the sender of a file to request the
>      execution of arbitrary commands on the receiver's side.  The user
>      using rz does not have any control over this feature.
> 
>      The workaround is to have rz never execute any command, and
>      always pretend a successful execution.

The version we distribute is called `lrzsz', and I suspect it is a
different version.

Nevertheless I'd appreciate it if the author could confirm that the
command execution feature is disabled.

Ian.
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=============================================================================
CERT(sm) Vendor-Initiated Bulletin VB-96.12
July 30, 1996

Topic: "Trojan Horse" vulnerability via rz program
Source: FreeBSD, Inc.

To aid in the wide distribution of essential security information, the CERT
Coordination Center is forwarding the following information from FreeBSD, Inc.
FreeBSD, Inc. urges you to act on this information as soon as possible.
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=======================FORWARDED TEXT STARTS HERE============================

=============================================================================
FreeBSD-SA-96:17                                            Security Advisory
Revised: Tue Jul 16 21:44:54 PDT 1996                           FreeBSD, Inc.

Topic:          "Trojan Horse" vulnerability via rz program

Category:       ports
Module:         rzsz
Announced:      1996-07-16
Affects:        All FreeBSD ports collections released before 2.1.5-RELEASE
Corrected:      ports collection as of 1996-07-06
Source:         rzsz shareware package
FreeBSD only:   no

Patches:        ftp://freebsd.org/pub/CERT/patches/SA-96:17/

=============================================================================

I.   Background

     All existing versions of the rz program (a program for receiving
     files over serial lines using the Z-Modem protocol) are equipped
     with a feature that allows the sender of a file to request the
     execution of arbitrary commands on the receiver's side.  The user
     using rz does not have any control over this feature.

     The workaround is to have rz never execute any command, and
     always pretend a successful execution.

     All FreeBSD users are encouraged to use the workaround provided.
     Since the intent of the Z-Modem protocol is to provide a reliable
     connection between systems of a vastly different architecture,
     the execution of local commands at request of the sending side
     cannot even be considered a useful feature at all.


II.  Problem Description

     The Z-Modem protocol specifies a mechanism which allows the
     transmitter of a file to execute an arbitrary command string
     as part of the file transfer.  This is typically used to rename
     files or eliminate temporary files.  A malicious "trusted" sender
     could send down a command that could damage a user's environment.


III. Impact

     The rzsz package is an optional port that made be installed on
     some FreeBSD systems.  This program is not installed by default.
     Systems without this program are not vulnerable.

     rz allows "Trojan Horse" type attacks against unsuspecting users.
     Since the rz executable does not run with special privileges,
     the vulnerability is limited to changes in the operating environment
     that the user could willingly perform.

     This vulnerability is a fundamental flaw in the Z-Modem protocol.
     Other operating systems and other implementations of the Z-Modem
     protocol may also suffer similar vulnerabilities.

IV.  Workaround

     Disable the rz program.  If it has been installed, it would
     typically be found in /usr/local/bin.

        # chmod 000 /usr/local/bin/rz
        # ls -l /usr/local/bin/rz
        ----------  1 root  wheel  23203 Mar  4 23:12 /usr/local/bin/rz


V. Solution(s)

     This feature is a relatively unknown part of the Z-Modem protocol.
     It is not critical to file transfers in general.  The safest
     approach is to disable this feature in the receiving program.

     Any rzsz port that is obtained from the official ports collection
     after 1996-07-06 includes the following patch to disable this feature.
     This patch applies to rzsz v3.42, if you have an earlier version
     of the rzsz sources, please upgrade to the latest version first.

    *** rz.c.orig       Sat Jul  6 17:34:26 1996
    --- rz.c    Sat Jul  6 17:44:52 1996
    ***************
    *** 1020,1039 ****
    --- 1020,1045 ----
                    case ZCOMMAND:
                            cmdzack1flg = Rxhdr[ZF0];
                            if (zrdata(secbuf, 1024) == GOTCRCW) {
    + #ifdef BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
                                    void exec2();

                                    if (cmdzack1flg & ZCACK1)
                                            stohdr(0L);
                                    else
                                            stohdr((long)sys2(secbuf));
    + #else
    +                           stohdr(0L);
    + #endif
                                    purgeline();        /* dump impatient questions */
                                    do {
                                            zshhdr(4,ZCOMPL, Txhdr);
                                    }
                                    while (++errors<20 && zgethdr(Rxhdr) != ZFIN);
                                    ackbibi();
    + #ifdef BIG_SECURITY_HOLE
                                    if (cmdzack1flg & ZCACK1)
                                            exec2(secbuf);
    + #endif
                                    return ZCOMPL;
                            }
                            zshhdr(4,ZNAK, Txhdr); goto again;

=============================================================================
FreeBSD, Inc.

Web Site:                       http://www.freebsd.org/
Confidential contacts:          security-officer@freebsd.org
PGP Key:                        ftp://freebsd.org/pub/CERT/public_key.asc
Security notifications:         security-notifications@freebsd.org
Security public discussion:     security@freebsd.org

Notice: Any patches in this document may not apply cleanly due to
        modifications caused by digital signature or mailer software.
        Please reference the URL listed at the top of this document
        for original copies of all patches if necessary.
=============================================================================

========================FORWARDED TEXT ENDS HERE=============================

If you believe that your system has been compromised, contact the CERT
Coordination Center or your representative in the Forum of Incident Response
and Security Teams (FIRST).

We strongly urge you to encrypt any sensitive information you send by email.
The CERT Coordination Center can support a shared DES key and PGP. Contact
the CERT staff for more information.

Location of CERT PGP key
         ftp://info.cert.org/pub/CERT_PGP.key


CERT Contact Information
- - ------------------------
Email    cert@cert.org

Phone    +1 412-268-7090 (24-hour hotline)
                CERT personnel answer 8:30-5:00 p.m. EST
                (GMT-5)/EDT(GMT-4), and are on call for
                emergencies during other hours.

Fax      +1 412-268-6989

Postal address
        CERT Coordination Center
        Software Engineering Institute
        Carnegie Mellon University
        Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890
        USA

CERT publications, information about FIRST representatives, and other
security-related information are available from[-1z
        http://www.cert.org/
        ftp://info.cert.org/pub/

CERT advisories and bulletins are also posted on the USENET newsgroup
        comp.security.announce

To be added to our mailing list for CERT advisories and bulletins, send your
email address to
        cert-advisory-request@cert.org


CERT is a service mark of Carnegie Mellon University.

This file: ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_bulletins/VB-96.12.freebsd



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Package: make
Version: 3.74-11

Given the Makefile below in an empty directory:
 chiark:d> make clean
 rm -f t.* u.*
 chiark:d> make
 echo bar >t.bar
 echo foo >t.foo
 echo wombat >u.wombat
 echo spong >u.spong
 rm t.bar
 chiark:d>

We see that the intermediate file used for the pattern rules (%.bar)
is removed by make, and that this doesn't happen if we use suffix
rules.

This is silly.  Consider the dependency graph (a --> b means a is
required to generate b, and b depends on a):
  a --> b --+--> d
  c --------'
where b and d are automatically generated.

Now if you start with a clean directory and say `make d' make
generates b from a, and then d from b and c.  However, it then deletes
b again.  If you edit c and want to rebuild it has to regenerate b,
and it ends up doing this every time.  This defeats the purpose of
using make, which is supposed to avoid rebuilding files unnecessarily.

This doesn't appear to happen if the rules involved are ordinary
targets, only if they're pattern targets.

I can't find any documentation about this `feature', and there doesn't
appear to be a way to turn it off.

Ian.

PS: You may need to put this Makefile through `unexpand' to put the
tabs back.  It has them now when I send the message, but tabs are
notorious for being mangled.

.SUFFIXES:
.SUFFIXES: .spong .wibble .wombat

all:		t.foo u.spong

%.foo:		%.bar
		echo foo >$@

%.bar:
		echo bar >$@

.spong.wibble:
		echo wibble >$@

.wombat.spong:
		echo spong >$@

u.wombat:
		echo wombat >$@

clean:
		rm -f t.* u.*


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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.1

Scott Barker writes ("Re: problems with 1.1 release"):
...
> ok. Although, I beg to differ about the *.conffiles:
> 
> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/adduser.conffiles
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/at.conffiles
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/base.conffiles
> [etc]

Oops, this is a bug.  I'll fix it some time (it's just some wasted
space - there are no real problems with it).

Ian.


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Simon Shapiro had a family disaster and is out of the office. Mike
Neuffer talked a non-technical i-connect employee through rebooting
"master". Please upload your packages.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: perl
Version: 5.003-2

I get the following error messages every time perl starts up
on my debian-linux machines (perl and return with do it!)
This is the current perl-5.003 release.  Any idea how I can
rid my system of this problem?  (The perl scripts all run 
fine, I am not that familiar with perl).

warning: setlocale(LC_CTYPE, "") failed.
warning: LC_ALL = "(null)", LC_CTYPE = "(null)", LANG = "de",
warning: falling back to the "C" locale.

I took the advice of a couple of individuals from queries to
debian-users mailing list:

(1) installed wg15_locale_1-1

(2) confirmed that the latest version, perl_5.003-2, was installed

This did not fix the problem.  I have verified that the
/usr/share/locale and /usr/share/nls directories (from wg15_locale)
are present and full.

I think there may be something missing in the configuration of either
perl or wg15_locale, hence, I have reported this bug.

I also just reran perlconfig just to make sure that it is configured
as designed.  I can produce the error message anytime perl is
executed, for example, "perl -v" will produce the error message.
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Package: shadow
Version: 960530-1

with dpkg 1.2.13elf:

./shadow_960530-1_i386.deb

prints:
"dpkg-deb: 'shadow...' is not a debian format archive"

Michael Gaertner <gaertnem@ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
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David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
...
> > Hmm.  Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is
> > available, or for it to have exactly the right one ?
> 
> Would you want the front-end driver (gcc) to use different versions of
> cpp and cc1/cc1plus?

Forgive my naivete', but I don't see why it should matter.

Ian.


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Package: lyx, ftp.debian.org
Version: 0.9.28-1

This package depends on a non-free package (xforms).
It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper.

Ian.


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Package: tar
Version: 1.11.11-1

I already posted this, but I think I had screwed up my mailer at the
time.  I never saw it, and it's not listed in the reports from the web
page, so here goes again...

On an older version, you could tar relative symlinks just fine.  You'd
get a Broken pipe message, but it would work without any serious error
messages (version 1.11.8-5):

# cd /; tar cf - System.* | (cd /tmp; tar xf -)
Broken pipe
# ls -l /tmp
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.map -> boot/System.map-2.0.9
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.old -> boot/System.map-2.0.7
#  

With the new version here's what happens:

# cd /; tar cf - System.* | (cd /tmp; tar xf -)
tar: System.map: Could not change access and modification times: No such file or directory
tar: System.map: Cannot change mode to 0755: No such file or directory
tar: System.old: Could not change access and modification times: No such file or directory
tar: System.old: Cannot change mode to 0755: No such file or directory
tar: Error exit delayed at end of execution
# ls -l /tmp/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.map -> boot/System.map-2.0.9
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.old -> boot/System.map-2.0.7
#

Perhaps this is not serious, but when you're untarring a large archive
with alot of symlinks it sure can look like something horrible is
going wrong.

Is this the desired behavior?
--
Rob


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miquels@cistron.nl said:
> You (Michael Shields) wrote:
...
> > perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.
> 
> And as a result you can install sendmail without deliver and your
> mail installation won't work at all..

One could introduce another virtual package (e.g., local-mail), have sendmail 
depend on this. Both procmail and deliver could provide this package. Sounds 
like a bit of an overkill for this problem, though.

> Sendmail should come with mail.local instead of deliver IMHO.

I think that is the simpler and better solution.

			Cheers,
				Lukas
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Package: compress-package, ftp.debian.org
Version: 1.0.1-1

This package is only an installer for a non-free piece of software.
It should be in contrib, not in the distribution proper.

Ian.


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   Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:45:27 -0400
   From: Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@charcoal.eg.bucknell.edu>

   Package: xserver-s3
   Version: 3.1.2-5

   When in the 640x480 mode, the mouse cursor points incorrectly.  The
   point at which the cursor appears to point is not where the mouse
   button selects when you push the key.  I have not tested other video
   resolutions with this card.

   The X server thinks it is pointing approximately 8 pixels to the left
   of where the mouse cursor appears to be pointing.

Have you played with the invert clock and early sc buttons of 'xvidtune'?  My
card (#9 motion 771) showed this behavior before I configured it correctly.
Maybe you've also got a config problem here.

--Mike


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Ian Jackson:
> We then end up with two files per package, and it then makes even more
> sense to move the copyright file.

$ ls /usr/doc | wc
    101     101     703
$ ls /usr/doc/copyright | wc
    243     243    1804
$ 

On my system, /usr/doc would be almost two and a half times bigger, with
all new directories containing only two files (copyright and changelog).
I'm not sure that is a good idea, though I'm not sure it is a bad one,
either.

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Package: xosview
Version: 1.3.2-4.1

It's in buzz-updates and

# ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
ls: /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview: No such file or directory

After installing the package.


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Package: fvwm
Version: 1.24r-24

Documentation for the fvwm modules appears to be missing from this
package.

[Insert obligatory renewal of the fvwm-package-relying-on-fvwm2-package
debate here.]  :-)

I only noticed this because I tried to look up information on GoodStuff.
This module appears to be available only in the fvwm package, and
consequently there is no corresponding documentation in the fvwm2
package.  (There appears to be an otherwise full complement of Fvwm* man
pages in the fvwm2 package.)

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Frank Neumann wrote to Graham Williams on 08 Aug 1996 03:11:32 +1000:

    Graham> My vanilla installation of Debian 1.1 seems to have perl
    Graham> only in /usr/bin/perl.

    Frank> I noticed this too, after having built a base.tar.gz for
    Frank> Debian on m68k.  The bug is not in kernel-headers, but in
    Frank> boot-floppies, which failed to create the link for the base
    Frank> system. boot-floppies-1.1.1.10 fixed it.  The bug report
    Frank> should be closed (I won't do that, I'm not the maintainer
    Frank> ;-), but a new base should probably be built.

Thanks for the information.  Checking the various Debian and Dpkg
documentation seems to imply that all scripts should refer to
/usr/bin/perl rather than /bin/perl.  Not sure if it rates as a bug
though if the scripts of a package don't.

Cheers


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Package: sendmail
Version: 8.7.5-4

After saying `/etc/init.d/sendmail stop', `/etc/init.d/sendmail start' will
not restart sendmail because it thinks it is already running.  I think this
is because /var/run/sendmail.pid isn't unlinked for some reason.

This is a serious problem; if you edit /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, it will
conveniently rebuild sendmail.cf and aliases.db and offer to restart
sendmail, but instead it will kill your sendmail!

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Package: psutils
Version: 1.16-3

It could be my imagination, but the latest psutils doesn't seem to
honor the "letter" paper size.

 psnup -2 -Pletter < /usr/doc/lout/user.ps > loutout.ps

Gives output that falls off the side of the page, but

 psnup -2 -w8.5in -h11in < /usr/doc/lout/user.ps > loutout.ps

works perfectly.

--
Rob


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Greetings:

In spite of my hardware woes, I got new gawk and mawk
packages uploaded. Sorry, about the delay. I put them in the
/home/Debian/ftp/debian/project/experimental directory on master --- is
that right? Neither package is essential. Both provide an 'awk' package.
Mawk is section base, priority important. I didn't include section or
priority information on gawk since I'm not sure of its final resting
place.  The base package maintainer should make 'base' depend on the
virtual package 'awk'.  Thus users can use mawk, gawk, or both.  I
recommend mawk because it is fast and small (See Arnold Robbins
comments in the August 1996 issue of Linux Journal).

Previously, I have tested mawk on the base disks and had no trouble.
But I recommend that others try this --- just to make sure.  Any
suggestions on what we should do with the extra 300K on the base
disks?

Here are the .changes files:

Date: 08 Aug 96 05:13 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
Source: mawk
Version: 1.2.2-2
Binary:  mawk
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 mawk: a pattern scanning and text processing language
Changes: no changes info provided
Files:
 84a22ce5d166fe34ad19da5e216cd547  193174  base  -  mawk_1.2.2-2.tar.gz
 60a840c5f9e07d66fc3417d23aea2e97  3134  base  -  mawk_1.2.2-2.diff.gz
 df7b4a51be039d654b9aaa5143394721  64610  base  important  mawk_1.2.2-2_i386.deb


Date: 08 Aug 96 04:53 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
Source: gawk
Version: 3.0.0-3
Binary:  gawk
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 gawk: GNU awk, a pattern scanning and processing language
Changes: no changes info provided
Files:
 1c7d9ce4ded412b8c6c3d08927065459  663678  -   gawk_3.0.0-3.tar.gz
 fb2fb0b4900fb201cae28ae4f89defb7  3835  -   gawk_3.0.0-3.diff.gz
 ce0bf9f2eab0d0bcd66c3144ce38c5e3  468  -   gawk_3.0.0-3.changes
 85a4aaa04c5cad4d2d9767cda0ac211f  336184  misc  extra  gawk_3.0.0-3_i386.deb

-- 
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cjf@netaxs.com                     |    UNIX SIG Leader at PACS
http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf         |    (Philadelphia Area Computer Society)
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf    |    Design Science Revolutionary
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Package: tar
Version: 1.11.11-1

On an older version, you could tar relative symlinks just fine.  You'd
get a Broken pipe message, but it would work without any serious error
messages (version 1.11.8-5):

# cd /; tar cf - System.* | (cd /tmp; tar xf -)
Broken pipe
# ls -l /tmp
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.map -> boot/System.map-2.0.9
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.old -> boot/System.map-2.0.7
#  

With the new version here's what happens:

# cd /; tar cf - System.* | (cd /tmp; tar xf -)
tar: System.map: Could not change access and modification times: No such file or directory
tar: System.map: Cannot change mode to 0755: No such file or directory
tar: System.old: Could not change access and modification times: No such file or directory
tar: System.old: Cannot change mode to 0755: No such file or directory
tar: Error exit delayed at end of execution
# ls -l /tmp/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.map -> boot/System.map-2.0.9
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 Aug  7 21:35 System.old -> boot/System.map-2.0.7
#

Perhaps this is not serious, but when you're untarring a large archive
with alot of symlinks it sure can look like something horrible is
going wrong.

Is this the desired behavior?
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Rob


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On 8 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:

> miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)  wrote on 05.08.96 in <199608050742.JAA17155@picard.cistron.nl>:
> 
> > You (Dale Scheetz) wrote:
> > > No! Not a typo. This is the only difference between what gets executed
> > > when debian.rules calls for a make, and when I call for the same make.
> > >
> > > The line in the Makefile is:
> > >
> > > 	cd lib; $(MAKE) $(MJ) -(MAKEFLAGS) all
> >                                ^
> > Could it be that there is a `$' missing there just before the `(' ?
> >
> > > There is no definition of MAKEFLAGS in debian.rules, or in the Makefile.
> > >
> > > Does the shell set it when debian.rules runs?
> >
> > Dunno..
> 
> Doesn't make set that one?
> 
Well, the question is, why does it set the value to 'w' when debian.rules
calls the make, but not when I call make from the prompt?

TIA,

Dwarf

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On 7 Aug 1996, Rob Browning wrote:

> 
> Package: psutils
> Version: 1.16-3
> 
> It could be my imagination, but the latest psutils doesn't seem to
> honor the "letter" paper size.
> 
>  psnup -2 -Pletter < /usr/doc/lout/user.ps > loutout.ps
> 
> Gives output that falls off the side of the page, but
> 
>  psnup -2 -w8.5in -h11in < /usr/doc/lout/user.ps > loutout.ps
> 
> works perfectly.
> 
Well, I checked out the man page, and it says the -P sets the input paper
size, while -p sets the output paper size. Try a lower case p and see if
that works as you expect.

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Ian Jackson writes:
 > > I do, however, think we should move the examples directory.  I've
 > > always thought the distinction between /usr/doc/<package> and
 > > /usr/doc/examples/<package> was arbitrary.  It usually leads to the
 > > obtuse arrangement where the example is in one directory and its
 > > accompanying documentation is another.
 > 
 > Indeed.  I've put this in the new policy manual.

Should we keep a link from /usr/doc/package/examples to
/usr/doc/examples/package to help transition, or is it unnecessary?

Yves.


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Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> Well, I checked out the man page, and it says the -P sets the input paper
> size, while -p sets the output paper size. Try a lower case p and see if
> that works as you expect.

Uh...oops.

I'm closing this bug.
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Rob


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 > 
 > There should be one zcat and it should always be gzip.  This won't
 > break anything as gzip understands .Z files...
 > 
 > Making zcat point to compress even sometimes will definitely break
 > things; IME much of the Linux world has been assuming it's gzip for a
 > number of years.  That seems unlikely to change.

Ok, I've corrected that: I build a package without any of the commands
provided by gzip.

 > compress is obsolete software; there's never any need to use it to
 > uncompress things.  Indeed, my experience (err, on Sunos rather than
 > Linux, so this may not be relevant) is that gzip is much more reliable
 > even at uncompressing .Z files.  I can't see the need to compress
 > things using compress either, as gzip produces smaller output, runs on
 > pretty much everything and is free.

Only one need: compress X font files, until someone makes the X font-reading
stuff aware of gzip.

YA.


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Package: netstd
version: 2.05-1

RSH does not work with baud rates above 115200.

[miriam]~:stty
speed 115200 baud; line = 0;
eol2 = M-^?; susp = <undef>; rprnt = <undef>; werase = <undef>;
lnext = <undef>; flush = <undef>;
-imaxbel
tab3
-iexten -echoctl -echoke
[miriam]~:rsh aaron
Segmentation fault

Works from any host to any other host.


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Someone:
> IMHO info is a great format.
From: kai@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
> Actually, I have just about the same problems with info that you
> have with  lynx - it's ugly, it has a *really* arcane user interface.

*** Project Leader Fiat Power On ***

The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via
HTML. You should not consider the merits of a particular HTML viewer,
or even the weight of the best of our existing HTTP servers. These things
will change with time, and without effort on our part. Instead, you
should concentrate in providing automatic means to present man files,
info files, and other various forms of documentation to the user. This
can be done at run-time via CGI scripts, or when the documentation packages
are installed. Use existing software where possible. Try to consider disk
space, but having a full documentation system takes priority over that.
A keyword search facility and a unifying set of indices are a high
priority.

Look at what Ray Dassen has done on our web site. That is a really good
start. Now think of the top-level index to Debian documentation coming up
in a web browser when the new user starts the system.

*** Project Leader Fiat Power Off ***

	Thanks

	Bruce


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I removed the Essential field and added Provides: editor as well as
incorporating the Architecture field correctly.

Date: 08 Aug 96 23:27 UT
Format: 1.5
Distribution: unstable
Priority: Low
Maintainer: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
Source: ae
Version: 962-8
Binary:  ae
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 ae: Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen editor
Changes: Removed Essential field, added provides: editor
Files:
 003994918eabcdb163bea5588ac848ce  31855  base  -  ae-962-8.tar.gz
 5d30a1eaa20c9ba5388f10b48649cf1e  7464  base  -  ae-962-8.diff.gz
 beb504770584b8144f85e11ae62bbb4d  31098  base  required  ae_962-8_i386.deb

Later,

Dwarf

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>One could introduce another virtual package (e.g., local-mail), have sendmail 
>depend on this. Both procmail and deliver could provide this package. Sounds 
>like a bit of an overkill for this problem, though.

Umm, no.  There are many ways of configuring sendmail, and a number of
these (including one of the supplied configurations) do not require
local mail delivery. Indeed, I've got quite a few debian 1.1 machines
here happily running sendmail without local mail delivery (since I use
a mailhost).

'Recommends' my be appropriate here.  Depends?  Nope.  I can very
easily configure and run sendmail in a sane manner without ever
needing deliver, procmail, mail.local, or such.

Please, don't 'depend' on things unless they are *really* needed.

-- 
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> Subject: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'
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I assume that the subject is wrong? (Actually, I know it is, but I'm not
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Subject: Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:41:43 +0100
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> What is the feeling on this ?
> 
> Since the new source format mandates the existence of the changelog
> and specifies that it must be in one of a small number (currently 1)
> of formats I'm inclined to say that we should mandate its inclusion -
> gzipped.
> 
> We then end up with two files per package, and it then makes even more
> sense to move the copyright file.

If they will go in /usr/doc/<package>/copyright.gz and
/usr/doc/<package>/changelog.gz ?  Then this is all right with me.

But a /usr/doc/copyright dir should remain.  The only contents allowed in
there would be generic copyright messages like GPL LGPL BSD and so on. 
Putting these generic files in /usr/doc/base/{GPL,LGPL,BSD} is not wise
IMHO.  Additionally because translated version of the above generic
copyright messages are on the net and it might be usefull to put these
translations there as well.  This specific group of files justify to have a
directory for them selves IMHO.  I don't mind that these are gzipped.

Erick


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> 
> 
> Package: xosview
> Version: 1.3.2-4.1
> 
> It's in buzz-updates and
> 
> # ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
> ls: /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview: No such file or directory
> 
> After installing the package.

Yes, that's Ians wish. I already corrected Ians error (he uploaded
a known buggy xosview even without mailing me in advance of doing so).

Thanks.

BTW Ian also sent mail to debian-devel saying that this bug was in
  his uploaded version.


xosview-1.3.2-6 doesn't contain this bug.

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On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Larry Gilbert wrote:

> Package: fvwm
> Version: 1.24r-24
> 
> Documentation for the fvwm modules appears to be missing from this
> package.

Yes, that's because although the manpages have changed a little
between the two versions of fvwm, they still have the same names.
This means you can only have one set of manual pages installed.

> [Insert obligatory renewal of the fvwm-package-relying-on-fvwm2-package
> debate here.]  :-)

I have a new version of fvwm2 in preparation, it should be released by
the end of the month.  This introduces an fvwm-common package which
will hopefully silence the debate once and for all :)

> I only noticed this because I tried to look up information on GoodStuff.
> This module appears to be available only in the fvwm package, and
> consequently there is no corresponding documentation in the fvwm2
> package.  (There appears to be an otherwise full complement of Fvwm* man
> pages in the fvwm2 package.)

Thanks for pointing this out: I'd forgotten about the GoodStuff
manpage. I will include it in the fvwm package that I'll release at
the same time as the new fvwm2 one.

In the meantime, I'll leave this bug report outstanding, to remind me
to do this.

Austin


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I'd like to know if there's a qmail Debian package, and how aliases
work in qmail: the Apache package used to add an alias to /etc/aliases
and then run sendmail -bi (or newaliases).

Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
being called as sendmail with the -bi option?

The same questions may be asked for smail.

Is the answer is no, can you please email me some doc? And maybe we'll
have to write an install-mail-alias command used by packages script, in
this case.

Yves.


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Some time ago, 4th of June, Ian wrote a very clear message
about what the package priorities like Extra/Optional/Required, e.d.
should mean.

I think Ian did a real good job with this message, finally
makeing clear something to me that I've always felt unsure about.

However, in this message, "Extra" is descirbed with:

   - - In order to get something into Extra it has to conflict with
   existing packages, or be very obscure, or very large, or be useable
   only in very specialised circumstances or for specialised
   applications, or have very complicated configuration requirements.
   Preferably several of those reasons would apply.
   
While this seems very strict to me, and probably would only aply to
one in 20 packages or so, I see on master's unstable/bin/Packages file:
   
   $ grep -i "Priority: Extra" Packages|wc -l
       179
   $ grep -i "Priority: Optional" Packages|wc -l
       230
   $ pwd
   /home/ftp/pub/Linux/Debian/unstable/binary-i386

Does this mean that the overrides file should be reworked a lot,
or did I miss something on debian-devel changing the meaning of
"Priority: Extra"?

(maybe dchanges should be changed to have "Optional: as default,
instead of the current "extra").

Thanks,

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Date: 09 Aug 96 14:54 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Erick Branderhorst <branderh@debian.org>
Source: texlib
Version: 1.0-5
Binary:  texlib
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 texlib: Auxiliary Files to run TeX
Changes: 
 Fri Aug  9 16:10:57 1996  Erick Branderhorst  <branderh@debian.org>
 .
        * debian.control: took over maintanance
        * debian.control & debian.rules updated version stuff
        * plain.tex from http://www-cs-staff.Stanford.EDU/~knuth/cm.html
Files:
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> Well, the question is, why does it set the value to 'w' when debian.rules
> calls the make, but not when I call make from the prompt?

Because it's a subprocess of another make.  Like the doc says:

>   Normally, you do not need to specify this option because `make' does
>it for you: `-w' is turned on automatically when you use the `-C'
>option, and in sub-`make's.  `make' will not automatically turn on `-w'
>if you also use `-s', which says to be silent, or if you use
>`--no-print-directory' to explicitly disable it.

Also, if you insist on passing the flags on the make command line, use
MFLAGS, it works that way -- MAKEFLAGS is passed through the
environment already, so using -$(MAKEFLAGS) is (1) redundant (2) wrong
if there are no options already given...


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I find that I really need the ability to run filters on remote
printers, something that the current lpr package Just Won't Do, so I
quickly packaged LPRng, and now have it running on one of my machines.

Before foisting it off onto the rest of the world, I'm interested to
find out what people would look for in a printcap configuration
script---I'm thinking in terms of something that will be useable by
both lpr and LPRng, as well as stuff like apsfilter and magicfilter,
so each of those packages can do some manipulation.

Anybody have any strong ideas, or, even better, existing code?

Mike.
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Daniel Quinlan writes:
> 
> Package: fdutils
> Version: 4.3-3
> 
> /usr/bin/fdmount should be mode 4755, not 4750.

I agree that the installation is not correct, but I doubt mode 4755 is a
solution. I for one don't like the idea that everyone is able to access my
floppy drive. Since the Debian standard installation for floppy devices is
mode 660 with owner root and group floppy I propose to use the same
owner/group combination for fdmount.

Any comments before I create a new version?

Michael

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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, joost witteveen wrote:

>    $ grep -i "Priority: Extra" Packages|wc -l
>        179
>    $ grep -i "Priority: Optional" Packages|wc -l
>        230
>    $ pwd
>    /home/ftp/pub/Linux/Debian/unstable/binary-i386

Most of the extra packages are misfiled.  They were entered into the
package hierarchy before the current uploading mechanism was in place.

I plan to go through the packages, directory by directory, and check
the priorities (and sections).  I'll have this done before 1.2 is
released.

Only appropriate packages are entering extra now.


Guy


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From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
> The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via
> HTML.

To clarify the above, I don't care what the SOURCE format of the document
is, as long as you can _convert_ it to HTML for display. SGML, info, man,
etc. are just fine, as long as we can display them with an HTML browser.

	Bruce


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At 1996-07-25 16:29 +0000, Guy Maor wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Michael Shields wrote:
>
>> Shouldn't all non-cosmetic bugs [in buzz] be fixed?
>
>No, only serious bugs and security holes.  Otherwise there would be no
>difference betweem rex and buzz.  The definition of 'serious' is a bit
>vague (basically a bug that most people agree is a major inconvenience)
>but gzip providing a compress link definitely doesn't qualify.

I must have misunderstood buzz.  I thought it would continue to be
developed in parallel to rex, fixing all non-minor bugs.  Examples of such
bugs are perl not installing correctly and traceroute not working with a
1.2 kernel, both of which are easily fixed.

If there isn't a tree that is as bug-free as possible, then I'll have to
create a giant symlink farm myself containing pieces of rex and buzz in the
most stable combination, and I really don't want to do that.  Wouldn't it
be better if everyone could benefit from such a tree, and we called it
buzz-fixed?

--
Shields, CrossLink.



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> I'd like to know if there's a qmail Debian package, and how aliases

Not yet (it wasn't possible during the beta, but now that it's
Officially Released I've promised to produce one...)

> Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support

The "qmail way" is of course better :-) but I think Russ Nelson did an
/etc/aliases compatibility package (which I'll be sure to include.)


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Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi> writes:

> I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches.
> We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something
> that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with
> the time should find and package one. It should be usable from the
> command line so that it can easily be integrated into Debiandoc.

It'd be nice to have something like altavista, that could generate a
page containing a (heirarchical) list of the references found.

--
Rob


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I've since found the documentation where it explains where this
happens.

However:

(a) It doesn't say that it doesn't remove the intermediate targets of
suffix rules.

(b) The documented way to turn it off, using .PRECIOUS, has other
undesirable side-effects - namely, it prevents make from removing the
file when interrupted, so that the timestamp may be wrong for the next
build.

(c) I think that the feature is of doubtful value anyway, especially
when the final target has dependencies other than the intermediate
target.

(d) There is no general way to turn the feature off, except perhaps by
saying `.PRECIOUS: %' - see (b).

My apologies for missing the documentation for this the first time
round, but I still think there are issues to be resolved here.

Ian.


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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, joost witteveen wrote:

> xosview-1.3.2-6 doesn't contain this bug.

So should it be in buzz-updates?

Guy


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This is a new upstream release of tar.  Thanks to Erick Branderhorst, we've
now got NLS enabled, and a few other tweaks.  

Erick uploaded a -1 version that included /bin/rmt, which we had agreed would
not be provided by the tar package.  This -2 version fixes that, and makes a
few other small tweaks to the documentation, etc.  If you installed the -1
version, please upgrade to this version ASAP.  

Much bug-fix work has been done to tar since the version that is included with
1.1, but this rev hasn't been very thoroughly tested, so caveat emptor!

Bdale

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marin157# file core
core: ELF 32-bit LSB core file, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped
marin158# gdb core
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
 under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc...

"0¨´
    @/core": not in executable format: File format not recognized

(gdb) quit
marin159# 


So there's a problem there. Do you have an idea about who is faulty? Gdb?

Yves.


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Hi,

is wg15-locale architecture dependend package???
it is uploaded with i386 in it.

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Date: 09 Aug 96 14:02 UT
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Source: mfdcfnt
Version: 1.0-1
Binary:  mfdcfnt
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 mfdcfnt: TeX's dc and tc fonts.
Changes: 
 Fri Aug  9 15:54:50 1996  Erick Branderhorst  <branderh@debian.org>
 .
        * new non-free package because of copyright
        restrictions. Originally these fonts where in mfbasfnt now
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Files:
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Bruce Perens:
> The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via HTML. 

I assume the unification won't mean that the native formats aren't 
supported -- they _do_ have benefits.

That said, I fully agree with choosing HTML. Debiandoc, supports on-line
conversions to HTML from man and text, and info2www supports Info (it
isn't really integrated, but it's not really visible). The converters
are configurable.

In addition, I think we should provide texi2html'd documentation in 
addition to Info files. texi2html seems to do a better job than info2www.

> A keyword search facility and a unifying set of indices are a high
> priority.

I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches.
We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something
that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with
the time should find and package one. It should be usable from the
command line so that it can easily be integrated into Debiandoc.

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Package: xcontrib
Version: 2.1.2-1

marin146# xgc
That test doesn't exist yet.
That test doesn't exist yet.
zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  xgc

What I did was:

	- select Function orReverse
	- select LineStyle DoubleDash

	- select (Image Text 16), click Run [gives test doesn't exist]
	- select (Text 16), click Run [gives test doesn't exist]
	- select Filled Polygons, click Run [okay]
	- select Filled Rectangles, click Run [dumps core]
	
Yves.


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I've just added the subsection below to the draft policy manual.

Bruce, tell me if you want me to say something different.

I'd like to come up with some rather more formal way of distributing
our different documentation formats.  Perhaps we should create a new
subdirectory of the FTP site for packages' PostScript documentation
and upload it separately.

Alternatively we could recommend that if a package can produce
documentation in n formats it should put the HTML in with the package
itself (if it doesn't warrant a separate package) but put the other
n-1 together in a separate package which uses some canonical naming
scheme.  Eg,
 dpkg           - contains the programs and the HTML documentation
 dpkg-docxf     - contains the documentation in ps, plain text &c
or
 texinfo        - contains the Texinfo formatter itself
 texinfo-doc    - contains the documentation run through texi2html
 texinfo-docxf  - contains the docs in /usr/info, and as dvi
If we do this we should probably say that if a package produces dvi as
its native format we should ship dvi and not ps.

Ian.

<sect1>Preferred documentation formats

The unification of Debian documentation is being carried out via HTML.
<p>

If your package comes with extensive documentation in a markup format
that can be converted to various other formats you should if possible
ship HTML versions in the binary package, in the directory
<tt>/usr/doc/<var/package/</> or its subdirectories.
<p>

Other formats such as PostScript may be provided at your option.


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Richard Kaszeta:
> Please, don't 'depend' on things unless they are *really* needed.

OTOH, if not depending on it will let inexperienced people get easily
in trouble, then by all means do depend on something that isn't strictly
needed. Hackers can use --force.

	E = Nu * Tu + Nh * Th

where E is total effort spent solving user problems and answering
questions about Debian, u is inexperienced user, h is hacker, Ni is the
number of questions from class i user, and Ti is average time to answer
question from class i user.

Typically, Tu is about the same as Th, but Nu >> Nh, so we want to
minimize Nu.

However, I don't have an opinion on whether Depends or Recommends is the
better solution for sendmail.

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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Erick Branderhorst wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> is wg15-locale architecture dependend package???
> it is uploaded with i386 in it.
> 
I really should be arch independent, but I haven't had a chance to open a 
critter complaint yet.  Maybe this will suffice?  B-)

Thanks for noticing...

Leland

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>  Package: news
>  Priority: extra
>  Section: admin
>  Description: System news tool. (System V)
> 
> In addition the fact that this description is inadequate (which will
> have been reported automatically a few weeks ago), IMO the package
> name is very misleading - it will make people think the package has
> something to do with USENET.
> 
> Unless someone objects I shall report this as a bug, requesting that
> the package be renamed to `sysvnews'.
> 
> Ian.
> 
I don't see anything gained by this, but i renamed the package to 'sysnews'.
The description bug has been fixed and closed already, but i forgot to upload
the package. Done.

Dominik


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Could you please check that this is still true in the latest release?

Thanks,
  Dominik


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The missing maps will be incorporated in the next release. Thanks for
providing the necessary information.

Dominik


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Subject: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it
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Ian Jackson writes:
> David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
> > Ian Jackson writes:
> ...
> > > Hmm.  Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is
> > > available, or for it to have exactly the right one ?
> > 
> > Would you want the front-end driver (gcc) to use different versions of
> > cpp and cc1/cc1plus?
> 
> Forgive my naivete', but I don't see why it should matter.

Because they're designed to work together.  That's why the FSF
includes cpp with gcc instead of packaging it separately.  

David
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Subject: Bug#4088: ghostview does not put filename in window title
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Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-8

This is a change request: I would very much like ghostview to put the
filename (or document title) in the X window title.  This will make it
much easier to pick the right ghostview window out of a list.

In fact, I wanted this so much I went and implemented it :-).  The
patch is below.  The new feature is optional, but enabled by default.

Ian.

diff -ru ghostview_1.5-8.dist/ghostview.man ghostview_1.5-8/ghostview.man
--- ghostview_1.5-8.dist/ghostview.man	Sat Jul 24 03:29:12 1993
+++ ghostview_1.5-8/ghostview.man	Fri Aug  9 20:19:57 1996
@@ -463,6 +463,9 @@
 .IP "\fBshowTitle (\fPclass\fB Labels)\fP" 1i
 Tells whether to display the \fB%%Title\fP comment.
 The default is ``true''.
+.IP "\fBwindowTitle (\fPclass\fB Labels)\fP" 1i
+Tells whether to copy the \fB%%Title\fP comment into the window title.
+The default is ``true''.
 .IP "\fBshowDate (\fPclass\fB Labels)\fP" 1i
 Tells whether to display the \fB%%Data\fP comment.
 The default is ``true''.
@@ -623,6 +626,10 @@
 Equivalent to setting ``Ghostview.showTitle: True''.
 .IP \fB\-notitle\fP 1i
 Equivalent to setting ``Ghostview.showTitle: False''.
+.IP \fB\-wtitle\fP 1i
+Equivalent to setting ``Ghostview.windowTitle: True''.
+.IP \fB\-nowtitle\fP 1i
+Equivalent to setting ``Ghostview.windowTitle: False''.
 .IP \fB\-date\fP 1i
 Equivalent to setting ``Ghostview.showDate: True''.
 .IP \fB\-nodate\fP 1i
diff -ru ghostview_1.5-8.dist/gv.h ghostview_1.5-8/gv.h
--- ghostview_1.5-8.dist/gv.h	Sat Jul 24 03:29:12 1993
+++ ghostview_1.5-8/gv.h	Fri Aug  9 20:17:56 1996
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
 /* Application resources */
 typedef struct _AppResources {
     Boolean show_title;		/* whether to show title */
+    Boolean window_title;	/* whether to put document title in window title */
     Boolean show_date;		/* whether to show date */
     Boolean show_locator;	/* whether to show locator */
     Boolean auto_center;	/* whether to automatically center the page */
@@ -103,6 +104,8 @@
 extern XErrorHandler	old_Xerror;
 extern Boolean	dying;
 extern XErrorEvent	bomb;
+extern XTextProperty nameprop;
+extern String version;
 
 enum {OPEN, PRINT_WHOLE, PRINT_MARKED, SAVE};
 extern int	mode;
diff -ru ghostview_1.5-8.dist/main.c ghostview_1.5-8/main.c
--- ghostview_1.5-8.dist/main.c	Sat Jul 24 03:29:12 1993
+++ ghostview_1.5-8/main.c	Fri Aug  9 20:43:53 1996
@@ -55,11 +55,13 @@
 
 extern char *getenv();
 
-static String version = "Ghostview, version 1.5";
+String version = "Ghostview, version 1.5";
 
 static XtResource resources[] = {
     {"showTitle", "Labels", XtRBoolean, sizeof(Boolean),
      XtOffsetOf(AppResources, show_title), XtRImmediate, (XtPointer)True},
+    {"windowTitle", "Labels", XtRBoolean, sizeof(Boolean),
+     XtOffsetOf(AppResources, window_title), XtRImmediate, (XtPointer)True},
     {"showDate", "Labels", XtRBoolean, sizeof(Boolean),
      XtOffsetOf(AppResources, show_date), XtRImmediate, (XtPointer)True},
     {"showLocator", "Labels", XtRBoolean, sizeof(Boolean),
@@ -138,6 +140,8 @@
     {"-page", ".page", XrmoptionSepArg, NULL},
     {"-title", ".showTitle", XrmoptionNoArg, "True"},
     {"-notitle", ".showTitle", XrmoptionNoArg, "False"},
+    {"-wtitle", ".windowTitle", XrmoptionNoArg, "True"},
+    {"-nowtitle", ".windowTitle", XrmoptionNoArg, "False"},
     {"-date", ".showDate", XrmoptionNoArg, "True"},
     {"-nodate", ".showDate", XrmoptionNoArg, "False"},
     {"-locator", ".showLocator", XrmoptionNoArg, "True"},
@@ -287,6 +291,7 @@
 XErrorHandler	old_Xerror;	/* standard error handler */
 Boolean	dying;		/* whether an X error caused our exit */
 XErrorEvent	bomb;	/* what the error was */
+XTextProperty nameprop; /* the XStringProperty for the window name */
 
 XtAppContext app_con;
 AppResources app_res;
@@ -363,7 +368,6 @@
     Boolean set_vert_dist;
     String s1, s2;
     XFontStruct *font;
-    XTextProperty nameprop;
     Dimension bottomMargin, leftMargin, rightMargin, topMargin;
     Dimension width, height;
     Dimension button_width;
@@ -371,6 +375,7 @@
     static XawTextSelectType sarry[] =
 	    {XawselectLine, XawselectAll, XawselectNull};
 
+    nameprop.value= 0;
     XtToolkitInitialize();
     XtSetTypeConverter(XtRString, XtRPageOrientation,
 		       XmuCvtStringToPageOrientation, NULL, 0,
@@ -871,7 +876,7 @@
     XtSetArg(args[0], XtNtransientFor, toplevel);
     XtSetValues(dialogpopup, args, ONE);
     XSetWMProtocols(dpy, XtWindow(toplevel), &wm_delete_window, 1);
-    if (XStringListToTextProperty(&version, 1, &nameprop)) {
+    if (nameprop.value) {
 	XSetWMName(dpy, XtWindow(toplevel), &nameprop);
     }
 
diff -ru ghostview_1.5-8.dist/misc.c ghostview_1.5-8/misc.c
--- ghostview_1.5-8.dist/misc.c	Sat Jul 24 03:29:12 1993
+++ ghostview_1.5-8/misc.c	Fri Aug  9 20:43:43 1996
@@ -297,6 +297,7 @@
     static String nothing = "";
     String label;
     Pixmap bitmap;
+    char *title, *versionfilename;
 
     /* Reset to a known state. */
     psfree(olddoc);
@@ -328,6 +329,28 @@
 	titlemenu = build_label_menu(titlebutton, "title", label, bitmap);
     }
 
+    if (nameprop.value) {
+	XFree(nameprop.value);
+	nameprop.value = 0;
+    }
+    if (app_res.window_title) {
+	if (doc && doc->title) {
+	    title = doc->title;
+	} else {
+	    title = filename;
+	}
+	versionfilename = XtMalloc(strlen(version)+3+strlen(title)+1);
+	strcpy(versionfilename, version);
+	strcat(versionfilename, " - ");
+	strcat(versionfilename, title);
+	XStringListToTextProperty(&versionfilename, 1, &nameprop);
+	XtFree(versionfilename);
+    } else {
+	XStringListToTextProperty(&version, 1, &nameprop);
+    }
+    if (nameprop.value && XtIsRealized(toplevel)) {
+        XSetWMName(XtDisplay(toplevel), XtWindow(toplevel), &nameprop);
+    }
     if (app_res.show_date) {
 	if (doc && doc->date) {
 	    label = doc->date;

--
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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: dpkg-changelog-mode (dpkg-changelog.el)"):
> Do we have an official look the changelog has to have? If so how should it
> look?
> 
> I won't be able to test your emacs style since I don't use emacs.

Yes, we do.  An example (from dpkg) is below.  This is documented both
by example in hello and dpkg and by specification in the new manual.

Ian.

dpkg (1.3.1) experimental; urgency=LOW

  * manpage for dpkg-source et al now available.
  * dpkg-changelog-mode.el installed in site-lisp, but still no autoload.

  * dpkg-source prints correct string for not-understood tar -vvt output.
  * dpkg-source parsing of tar -vvt output made more robust.

  * dpkg-buildpackage prints usage message on usage error.
  * dpkg-gencontrol can print usage message.
  * -T<varlistfile> option added to dpkg-source.
  * Description of -f<fileslistfile> corrected in dpkg-distaddfile usage.
  * -m<maintainer> synopsis changed in dpkg-genchanges usage.
  * debian/substvars may now contain blank lines.

 -- Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>  Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:36:04 +0100


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I should think that you've all heard about this by now - if not go and
look at comp.os.linux.announce.

I'm just posting here on what's really an irrelevant topic to say that
I think it's a very good thing that someone is challenging Microsoft.

I mailed Lyle Ball at Caldera to tell him so, and he thanked me for my
support and said:
> Please be vocal about your opinions
> on this case, especially on the forums.

So, here I am in my favourite forum :-).  If you want to discuss this
somewhere here probably isn't it.

Ian.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: Alphas and libc dependencies"):
> You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
...
> > 2a. Give the package containing our version of glibc version 0 the
> > name libc5.  2b. Implement version numbers for virtual packages so
> > that we can use one here.
> 
> I think 2b should be done;  [...] if this would work:
> 
> Provides: libc5_5.2.18-8, ldso_ 1.7.14-4, timezone_7.48-3, libdb1_1.85.2-8, libgdbm1_1.7.3-11
> 
> it would solve a huge problem.

The problem is that this is quite a significant amount of work, and I
don't really have time to deal with it now.  (Incidentally, the syntax
would be `Provides: libc5 (5.2.18-8), ldso (1.7.14-4)' &c.)

...
> Would it be very hard to put this in dpkg? Oh and would you like to have
> the Alpha patches for dpkg first so you can integrate them into the
> normal version (would make it easier for me).

Certainly you should send me your patches.  IME architecture patches
fall into two categories: bug fixes where I made a mistake (which I'll
fix straight away if I can, for example by using your supplied patch)
and workarounds for architecture-specific braindamage.  I've had some
problems with the latter and m68k and ELF, and I have to say that I'm
very reluctant to put in `workaround' patches.  You have been warned
:-).

Ian.


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Package: base
Version: 1.1

The file '/etc/rc.local' exists, but is not set up properly.

- It has permissions 644 instead of 744
- It is called only by '/etc/init.d/compat' but this file does not
appear
  to be linked into any of the "rc" directories.  ("compat" also runs
the
  file '/sbin/setup.sh')

                                        Brian
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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: fileutils can now replace perforate..."):
> [Ian Jackson:]
> > But --sparse=auto is impossible to implement correctly on many
> > systems, and filesystem-dependent on others !
> 
> Depends on what you mean by sparse...  the trick is that you can use
> stat() to determine if the file has *any* holes.  

No, that's precisely what I'm claiming *can't* be done, because of
indirect blocks amongst other things.

IMO cp should either always produce sparse files by default or never
do so by default, not some half-way house that guesses and will get it
wrong sometimes.

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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: Alphas and libc dependencies"):
...
> In addition to my last message, here is an alternative I've just though
> of. Why don't we just provide dummy (eg empty) libc5, libdb1 etc
> packages, and let libc6 depend on them. Then libc5 etc _will_ be
> installed..
> 
> I think that's what I'll do until Ian has implemented version numbers
> for virtual packages (if that's a reasonable solution that is).

Well, it's not ideal - in particular, it means that you can deinstall
libc6 when you clearly ought not to.

How about doing it the other way around - having an empty libc5
package which depends on libc6 ?  This is obviously a bit of a nasty
hack, but it will have the right effect.

Ian.


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eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us writes ("Re: Emacs per-package startup files"):
> Umm, /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/ is already there, and already the right
> place for this sort of thing. Next question?

Err, I don't think so.  Files in /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp aren't
loaded automatically (and shouldn't be).

> As for ordering: use require, and then safe-append a section to
> /etc/site-start.el, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ALREADY DOES... we don't need
> a new mechanism here, just some common simple automation of the one
> that vm, w3, gnats, and others already use...

Respectfully, I disagree.

Experience with /usr/info/dir, inetd.conf, and indeed with
site-start.el (/etc/site-start.el vs. site-lisp/site-start.el and
symlinks, &c) has taught us, I feel, that it is a bad thing to have
many different packages all dynamically update the same file just to
add and remove their own little bits from it.

Contrast this with /etc/rc?.d and /etc/rc.boot, where there has been
little unfortunate interaction.

There's the question of how to distinguish changes made to the shared
file by the sysadmin from those made by package maintainer scripts.
This is much easier if each package's bit is in a separate file -
dpkg's conffiles mechanism can take care of it.

There's also the question of having a standard tool.  Obviously it
would be good to have a standard tool for this kind of thing (a la
install-mime and the rest).  However, the more you do this the more
of these little install-foo scripts you have, and the more stuff you
drag in when you try to install the package.  For example, supposing
Emacs were to provide a script to add things automatically I couldn't
use it, because dpkg can't depend on Emacs.  The script would have to
end up in dpkg itself.

So, all in all, I think it would be better to have an arrangement
where all the bits that packages would want to put in the site-start
are installed as conffiles in a directory, and arrange that the real
site-start runs every file in the directory a la run-parts.

As for ordering: the entries in site-start aren't supposed to require
much ordering.  After all, they're autoload definitions and the like.
I think a sequence numbering scheme like that for the other
package-put-a-file-in-here directories would be quite adequate.

Now Emacs is your (Mark Eichin's) package, so you get to decide how
things are to be done.  I still hope though that I (and others who may
agree with me) can persuade you that these arguments have merit, and
that it would be better and simpler in the long run if we started
making this not particularly arduous transition.

Either way I'd appreciate it if, when this discussion is concluded,
you could send me some text for the new policy manual about how elisp
should be managed.

Thanks,
Ian.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR"):
...
> This is a bug in the library; the library routines print this (they
> shouldn't ofcourse). Heeemmm can anybody tell me how to redirect
> a bug report to another package, libc5 in particular?

Yes.  `help@bugs.debian.org' can.  As can
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/.  Or
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/bug-*.txt.

I can too, but I think you should RTFM.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
...
> On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
> in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
> others as well).

Sorry I'm coming into this so late (just over a week, in fact), but I
think this is a daft idea.

Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
kind of `mistake' our dependency scheme should try to address.

The only possible consequences of creating an `editor' virtual package
and having things depend on it are:
 * Needless updates to packages to add dependencies and Provides
 * Some person installs their own favourite editor in /usr/local
   and wants to remove all ours but can't.

I think the `editor' virtual package should be scrapped.

Ian.


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Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Name clash in prospective package "):
...
> For instance, there's no guarantee that /usr/local/lib exists, or that
> the admin wants it to exist, or that it won't cause any trouble if it
> does exist.  I can't think of anything that would break, but admins
> are allowed to do funny things in /usr/local.

The problem with this strict approach is that we want (for obvious
reasons) our tools to search local directories too when looking for
commands, Perl modules, lisp files or whatever.  Therefore we can't
avoid making some assumptions about what's in /usr/local.

The point of not putting things in /usr/local isn't, as I see it, so
that the sysadmin can put a baroque thing there and have everything
work - it won't - but so that they can put their own software there
(installed well or badly) without fear of it being destroyed by the
packaging system.

...
> I quite agree that it should be easy to set up such complex things
> [like directory structures &c in /usr/local], but not without asking.

I don't think we need to bother the user with one more question, if we
provide a way for an expert to have us leave /usr/local alone.

I propose the following resolution:

* A policy that packages should include in their .deb files empty
directories for path-searched directories.  Files are not allowed, and
packages aren't allowed to touch /usr/local at all in their maintainer
scripts.

* When dpkg has the `ignore files matching pattern' option (this will
be read from a configuration file) you'll be able to stop it
installing things in /usr/local at all.  I'm afraid this will be a
while coming, but in principle it's not too hard.

Ian.


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Daniel Quinlan writes ("Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface"):
> [ complaints about dselect's user interface ]

I am merging this with Bug#1037.

Offers of assistance are welcome.

Ian.


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(Note: this message is crossposted between two mailing lists -
 you should probably follow up on only one.)

What used to be the FSSTND group has changed composition somewhat, and
now includes a number of people from the BSD world.  It set itself the
goal of producing a joint filesystem layout standard, named the FHS.

I argued against many of the changes that were proposed, on the
grounds such as the disruption that would be caused to the Linux
community by moving things or the fact as I saw it that the FSSTND's
arrangements were cleaner and that we should not compromise, moving
things to messier locations, because BSD had done it that way.

I lost this argument, chiefly through a combination of poor politics
on my part and the fact that there were more people who seemed willing
to make major sacrifices for compatibility with BSD.

The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
 * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.
 * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
 * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.
 * A new directory /usr/libexec is created to hold command binaries
  used only internally by programs - these are to be moved from
  /usr/lib and in some cases /usr/sbin.  Oddly there is no
  corresponding /libexec directory.

The two good changes that I see are (and they are not minor):
 * /usr/share exists and is defined.
 * /opt exists and is defined.

I have spent an awful lot of time and energy on the FSSTND mailing
list, and I do not have any left with which to further persue this
matter there in the face of the very considerable amount of bad
feeling which exists.

It pains me greatly to say this, given my emotional investment in the
work of the FSSTND, but: if the FHS draft is promulgated as it stands
I shall not support its adoption by the Debian project.

It looks like we (Debian) are going to need /opt, and possibly
/usr/share.  We can take those parts if we need them.

I'm posting this message so that:

(a) The rest of the Debian Project can decide what they want to do.
    If the consensus is that they wish to follow the new standard then
    I shall be unhappy, of course.  I don't know what my reaction
    would be in terms, for example, of my authorship of dpkg and of
    the Debian Project policy manual.  Disillusionment, I suppose.

(b) The newly-renamed FHS group can reconsider - though I doubt that
    they will.  They'll see this as an attempt by me to blackmail
    them.

For the Debian people: the latest draft can be found on tsx-11.mit.edu
in /pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/private/fsstnd/.

Ian.

[1] When the original FSSTND was created I argued in favour of
/libexec and /usr/libexec, but lost that debate.  I'm less convinced
now than I was then, but my main reason for opposing it now is that it
is too late to change.


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Hello,

I'd like to ask to be in charge of a Debian package for Amaya, which
will go public in the next weeks.

Amaya is a WWW WYSIWYG editor/browser supporting structured edition
and cascading style sheets among other features. It is realized by
the W3C as was Arena.

I'd like to maintain this package because I know people working on
Amaya, and really would like to do this package.

Thanks,
Yves.


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Ian,

I am aware of your efforts with linuxdoc.sgml, and I think it's important
to make it clear that HTML is only the end-product. It's fine to encourage
people to use linuxdoc as a source language.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
> GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> 
> "0¨´
>     @/core": not in executable format: File format not recognized
> 
> So there's a problem there. Do you have an idea about who is faulty? Gdb?

As I understand it, the way you call gdb is

gdb [executable] [its core file]

preferrably with [executable] compiled with -g and linked statically

I doubt that gdb can read core files without an accompanying executable..

Mike.
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Craig Sanders writes ("epoch??  how to make squid-1.0.5 > squid-1.0beta16"):
...
> Was epoch implemented?  How do I use it? 

Yes.  See the draft programmers' manual.

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Replaces: and virtual packages?"):
> I thought having a package with
>         Provides: compress
>         Replaces: compress
> would be like
> 
>         Provides: compress
>         Conflicts: compress
> except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package
> was installed any previous package providing compress would be removed
> first.

I think you want:
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 Provides: compress

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Yves Arrouye writes ("Is it okay to download orig source once only?"):
...
> I propose that we upload once
>         somepackage_release.tar.gz
> which unpacks to
>         somepackage-release.orig/
> and then further uploads would be
>         somepackage_release-deb.diff.gz
>         somepackage_release-deb_arch.deb
> Would that be okay?

Not at the moment, no, because the .tar.gz is the debianised source.

However with the new source package format this is possible in
principle, though in practice there are a few technical issues with
dpkg-source to be sorted out.

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Package: modules
Version: 2.0.0-6

The script /etc/init.d/kerneld uses grep - which might not be available. The 
problem is that if you put `auto' into /etc/conf.modules, kerneld is started 
before any extra mounts are done. So if you have /usr on a separate partition, 
/usr/bin/grep (which is where grep lives) is not yet available.

Possible solution: If /etc/init.d/kerneld accepts `auto' as an argument, it is 
possible to distinguish if it is called by /etc/init.d/modules or as part of 
the links in one of the /etc/rc?.d.

I include a patch which works on my system which does the following:
- /etc/init.d/modules calls /etc/init.d/kerneld with the argument `auto' 
instead of `start' if the keyword `auto' is found in /etc/conf.modules.
- /etc/init.d/kerneld interprets `auto' like `start', except that it skips the 
test if the keyword `noauto' is present in /etc/conf.modules

Feel free to use the patch if you like my solution and if my patch looks ok to 
you.

			Cheers,
				Lukas

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--- modules.orig	Fri Aug  9 16:55:11 1996
+++ modules	Fri Aug  9 16:55:33 1996
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@
 do
 	case "$module" in
 		auto)	[ ${startkerneld} -eq 0 -a -x /sbin/kerneld ] && \
-			echo && /etc/init.d/kerneld start && startkerneld=1;
+			echo && /etc/init.d/kerneld auto && startkerneld=1;
 			continue ;;
 		noauto) continue ;;
 		\#*|"") continue ;;

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--- kerneld.orig	Fri Aug  9 16:53:26 1996
+++ kerneld	Fri Aug  9 16:54:57 1996
@@ -6,7 +6,9 @@
 test -f /sbin/kerneld || exit 0
 
 # Check if noauto is set
-grep "^[ ]*noauto" /etc/modules 2>&1 > /dev/null && exit 0
+if [ "$1" != "auto" ]; then
+        grep "^[ ]*noauto" /etc/modules 2>&1 > /dev/null && exit 0
+fi
 
 KDOPT=""
 
@@ -14,7 +16,7 @@
 [ -d /lib/modules/`uname -r` ] || exit 0
 
 case "$1" in
-  start)
+  start|auto)
 #
 #	is /proc mounted ?
 #

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Package: netstd
Version: 2.05-1

The ftp command, at least in a xterm, does not let one stop mget:

ftp> mget x*
mget xarclock_1.0-1.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xautolock_pl10-2.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xaw3d_1.2a-5.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xbase_3.1.2-9.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xbmbrowser_4.2-2.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xcolors_1.5-2.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xcompat_3.1.2-4.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xcontrib_3.1.2-1.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xdaliclock_2.06-1.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xdevel_3.1.2-4.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xearth_1.0-11.deb? 
Continue with mget? mget xfnt100_3.1.2-6.deb? 
[etc...]

After having displayed 'Continue with mget?' it gets to the next file
asking, so there's no chance to answer no. (In the example above, I hit
C-c on each line).

Yves.

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Bernd Eckenfels writes ("gcc and binutils"):
> ist it possile that on a fresh new install gcc is installed before binutils
> is installed, and therefore fail to configure? If I run configure afterwards
> everything is fine. Will dpkg install a package first if it sees that other
> ones depend on it?

Err, I don't quite understand the question.  The answer to your first
sentence is `no, it shouldn't be possible'.

See the draft programmers' manual for details of exactly how things
happen.

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Raul Miller writes ("Re: Draft manuals"):
> Some thought about qmail should occur [in the section on
> mail processing].
> 
> qmail doesn't use a mail spool directory for security reasons, mail
> boxes are in the user's home directory by default.  And, of course,
> there's the maildir format for people wanting a very robust system.
> 
> I've seen mention on debian-devel of making movemail aware of
> maildir.  I suspect that this is the right thing to do.

qmail's author has taken a deliberate choice to be incompatible with
things, and this means that we can either:
 * mandate that everything support what qmail does
 * live with not everything working when you use qmail.

What precisely do you think I should put in the policy manual on this
subject ?  I'm loath to mandate that every program support qmail's
maildir format.

Perhaps the qmail package should come with a local delivery agent that
can do delivery into /var/spool/mail ?  It only has to be setgid mail,
not setuid root.  That requirement would be the effect of the policy
requirements as they're written atm.

Ian.


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Erick Branderhorst writes ("Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?"):
...
> But a /usr/doc/copyright dir should remain.  The only contents allowed in
> there would be generic copyright messages like GPL LGPL BSD and so on. 
> Putting these generic files in /usr/doc/base/{GPL,LGPL,BSD} is not wise
> IMHO.  Additionally because translated version of the above generic
> copyright messages are on the net and it might be usefull to put these
> translations there as well.  This specific group of files justify to have a
> directory for them selves IMHO.  I don't mind that these are gzipped.

That seems reasonable to me.  We should leave a README there pointing
people to /usr/doc/<package>/copyright.

Ian.


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Thanks to Dirk.Eddelbuettel for spotting a few infelicities.

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Description: 
 hello      - The classic greeting, and a good example
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I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.

Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?

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Yves Arrouye writes ("Qmail, smail and sendmail"):
> I'd like to know if there's a qmail Debian package, and how aliases
> work in qmail: the Apache package used to add an alias to /etc/aliases
> and then run sendmail -bi (or newaliases).
> 
> Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
> being called as sendmail with the -bi option?
> 
> The same questions may be asked for smail.
> 
> Is the answer is no, can you please email me some doc? And maybe we'll
> have to write an install-mail-alias command used by packages script, in
> this case.

Well, perhaps we should just say that you can edit /etc/aliases and
must run newaliases afterwards if it exists.

Ian.


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Dominik Kubla writes ("Re: sysv `news' package is unclear "):
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> I don't see anything gained by this, but i renamed the package to 'sysnews'.
> The description bug has been fixed and closed already, but i forgot to upload
> the package. Done.

Surely you mean `sysvnews' ?

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: /usr/doc/copyright/<package> -> /usr/doc/<package>/copyright ?"):
...
> Should we keep a link from /usr/doc/package/examples to
> /usr/doc/examples/package to help transition, or is it unnecessary?

I think the new location is sufficiently more obvious that this is
unnecessary.

Ian.


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The upstream ncurses sources underwent a soname change about two
months ago.  They seem likely to undergo another one in the immediate
future, so it's just as well I hadn't worried with packaging the
current stuff yet.

Neither of these changes can be ignored, as they involve mods to some
public data structures, totally breaking binary compatability.

I intend to release one last ncurses3.0 package here in the next
couple of weeks that will take care of some packaging issues, and
hopefully do anything necessary to make the upgrade a smooth one.

When the new non-beta of ncurses comes out, I'll be releasing a new
ncurses32 or whatever (I think they're looking at the end of August as
a target, and I'll probably need a couple of weeks after that).

It would be nice if everyone who has packages dependent upon ncurses
could try and be ready to do upgrades to their packages in fairly
short order.  As soon as I get my hands on a suitable release
candidate, I can start making it available to people dealing with
important packages so we can hopefully batch upgrade this.

I'm very open for input.  The way I see it, this may be our sort of
test-run for whenever libc6 actually debuts.

Mike.
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I would like to add that participation in the filesystem standard
mailing list is not closed.

Information on how to subscribe is located in all releases and
"private" drafts of the FSSTND and upcoming FHS.  There are also some
requests to new subscribers (such as "run new ideas past someone so we
don't repeat old debates too often") also listed.

Thanks.

By the way, the new Debian release is great although I'm hoping the
next one will support the NCR 53c810 out of the box.

Dan


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Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> What used to be the FSSTND group has changed composition somewhat,
> and now includes a number of people from the BSD world.  It set
> itself the goal of producing a joint filesystem layout standard,
> named the FHS.

Actually, the vast majority of people on the mailing list are Linux
people (about 95%).  The BSD people are lurking, partially because you
scared them off, and I have my doubts that a joint standard will ever
exist.  The BSD people have been helpful with /usr/share and
/usr/libexec, and I think it would be a shame to completely sever
relations, even if a 100% joint standard doesn't happen.

> The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
> the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
>  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.

This change is probably the most noticible, but places the FHS with
the majority of the modern Unix community.  Solaris, BSD, IRIX, etc.

Transition from /var/spool/mail to /var/mail is not difficult.  Change
a line in paths.h, add a symbolic link, and change any mail programs
that don't use paths.h (as they should).

>  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).

Again, transition is easy.  Single applications can be modified, one
at a time.  A symbolic link can be used or you can go with two
separate directories (/var/lib and /var/state).

>  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.

I recently proposed removing /var/games (/var/lib/games, whatever)
from the draft before release.  But, since you're working over
(flaming over) your backlog of mail without reading it all first, you
haven't seen my proposal yet.

Games, with the exception of the binary location (/usr/games) don't
need to be treated differently from other applications.  So I want to
remove this unnecessary complication.

>  * A new directory /usr/libexec is created to hold command binaries
>   used only internally by programs - these are to be moved from
>   /usr/lib and in some cases /usr/sbin.  Oddly there is no
>   corresponding /libexec directory.

I am not opposed to a /libexec directory.  It has been mentioned, but
nobody has proposed it.  The need is minimal.

Note that there is also no /share.  If /libexec was added, it might
also make sense to add /share.

> [...]

Ian, here is the extent of your participation in the last year.

1. Get upset over some changes.
2. Flame all over because of those changes, a long period of time
   after the fact.
3. Offer no proposals, but be free with ultimatums.

I'm sorry to be so blunt, but the trend is clear.

I realize that there are many changes in the current draft, but it's
been 18 months since the last FSSTND was released.  It will probably
be another year after this release before the next.

In addition, to ease transition from FSSTND 1.2 to FHS, I am
implementing a FHS WWW site including a developers section with
migration information, how to deal with the GNU coding standards and
autoconf (it will be easier after FHS than with FSSTND, by the way),
etc.

Before members of the Debian community decide whether or not to
support the FHS in your internal discussion, I encourage you to read
the current draft of the FHS rather than Ian Jackson's summary.  I
would be very hesitant to release FHS if it meant losing a previous
supporter, whether it be Debian or another distribution.

Ian, please consider writing a proposal to revert some of the
long-past changes (perhaps one message per major proposal) that you
don't like.  It is always easier to be a positive proactive force than
a negative reactive one.

Regards, 

 Dan

-- 
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Bruce Perens writes ("Re:  Documentation formats"):
> I am aware of your efforts with linuxdoc.sgml, and I think it's important
> to make it clear that HTML is only the end-product. It's fine to encourage
> people to use linuxdoc as a source language.

Err, yes, errm, I think you've missed my point(s) rather.

The thing is that I think we need to be able to distribute other
end-products.  HTML is bad for printing, for example, and not ideal
if you have a slow machine.   Choice is a good thing.

I think we need some kind of convention for the distribution of
additional end-product documentation formats.  Hence my last message.

BTW, I'm not using linuxdoc-sgml any more.  In the end I wrote my own
DTD (well, hacked up linuxdoc until it was a quarter of the size) and
backends.

Ian.


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Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Bug#4064: sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend "):
> [...]    Hackers can use --force.   [...]

No.

When I implemented --force I thought people might start to take this
line, but luckily I've been largely wrong so far.  That's not what
they're for.

--force-* is for working around bugs, not for people to do what they
ought to be able to in routine use.

Ian.


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The new source package format has been debated for some time, and I've
now implemented the tools to manage an arrangement which I think meets
our requirements.  There hasn't been much feedback.

The policy manual is little more than a rearrangement and tidying up
of existing documents.  The programmers' manual is mainly
documentation (copied, rewritten and written from scratch) of existing
implementation.

Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or
issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as
described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian
policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.3.x, will become official.

After that point package maintainers should install dpkg 1.3.x and
start converting their packages.  Also, after that point any further
changes will involve a change to the Standards-Version number, which
appears as a control field in the new source format, and generate
entries in a changelog.  Thus we'll be able to check which packages
are falling behind.

I hope this meets with everyone's approval.  Bruce, I'd be
grateful if you could let me know whether I have your go-ahead on
this, or whether you think I'm moving too fast.

In case you've forgotten, here are the claimed advantages of the new
source format:
 * Original source kept in the Debian archive, so you don't need to
   download it from somewhere to build a package you haven't built
   before.
 * Better automation of the correspondence between various bits of
   control information, including package names and version numbers.
 * Better and package-independent automation of the creation of source
   packages.
 * Automation of the generation of .changes files from information in
   a parseable changelog and elsewhere.
 * Better ability to record the correspondence between binary and
   source packages in the archive.
 * The possibility of building packages in bulk entirely automatically.

These advantages make it easier for maintainers to take over each
others' packages, and will I hope make the m68k and alpha porters'
lives easier (when completed, at least).

Ian.


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Package: procmail
Version: 3.10-4

rob@deimos:binary-i386/mail:[49]% dpkg --contents procmail_3.10-4.deb
[...]
-rw-r--r-- wendal/wendal  5982 Oct 31 13:01 1994 usr/doc/procmail/HISTORY.gz
-rw-r--r-- wendal/wendal  2817 Dec 22 23:12 1994 usr/doc/procmail/README.gz
-rw-r--r-- wendal/wendal  4199 Apr 11 01:15 1995 usr/doc/procmail/FAQ.gz
-rw-r--r-- wendal/wendal  1887 Sep 27 13:15 1994 usr/doc/procmail/FEATURES.gz
[...]

These files are owned by UID 1000 and should instead be owned by root/root.

-- 
Robert Leslie
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I'm about to package up sgmlspm, a set of Perl routines for processing
the output of sgmls (this is the SGML parser in linuxdoc-sgml) and
nsgmls (the next version up, which is in the Debian package sp).

I want to Recommend a suitable SGML parser.

I therefore propose the new virtual package name:

sgmls: an SGML parser which produces output compatible with James
       Clark's sgmls and nsgmls parsers.

Ian.


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> > their location? Something else I haven't thought of?
> 
> "Replaces:" is the proper dpkg mechanism for doing this, but please
> don't use it.  Linc5 does not appear to need either nlist.h or
> libelf.h.  Hopefully, H.J. Lu can confirm this.  If this is the case,
> then the headers should probably be removed from libc.
> 

I put in libelf.h and nlist.h to hope someone would implement
them :-(. Please feel free to overwrite them.

Thanks.


-- 
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Ian Jackson:
> I mailed Lyle Ball at Caldera to tell him so, and he thanked me for my
> support and said:
> > Please be vocal about your opinions
> > on this case, especially on the forums.
> 
> So, here I am in my favourite forum :-).  If you want to discuss this
> somewhere here probably isn't it.

Since the debian-talk list is reported to be on-line again, perhaps any
discussion could be taken there?

Personally, I haven't decided if it's good or bad.

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Michael Gaertner writes ("Bug#4076: shadow-package (not a deb-format-archive)"):
> Package: shadow
> Version: 960530-1
> 
> with dpkg 1.2.13elf:
> 
> ./shadow_960530-1_i386.deb
> 
> prints:
> "dpkg-deb: 'shadow...' is not a debian format archive"

Did you download it in binary mode ?  It looks OK on the mirror here.

If your file is corrupted could you send it to me, uuencoded, and I'll
try to make dpkg-deb spot this rather common mistake.

Ian.

-chiark:debian> md5sum project/experimental/shadow_960530-1_i386.deb 7424ba0389551c0bcfe7cce56c7874d9  project/experimental/shadow_960530-1_i386.deb
-chiark:debian> dpkg -I project/experimental/shadow_960530-1_i386.deb 
 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 265880 bytes: control archive= 758 bytes.
      34 bytes,     2 lines      conffiles            
     501 bytes,    13 lines      control              
     327 bytes,    20 lines   *  postinst             #!/bin/sh
     171 bytes,    11 lines   *  prerm                #!/bin/sh
 Package: shadow
 Version: 960530-1
 Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
 Description: Manage shadow password and group files
  Shadow passwords shadow the passwords from the /etc/passwd file into 
  the /etc/shadow file. Thus only root is (ideally) able to read the 
  encrypted passwords.
 Depends: libc5 (>=5.2.18-9)
 Architecture: i386
 Replaces: login,passwd,miscutils
 Conflicts: sudo (<<1.4.1-1), wu-ftpd (<<2.4-20), netstd (<<2.04-1), xlockmore (<<3.9-0)
 Section: experimental
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David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
...
> Because they're designed to work together.  That's why the FSF
> includes cpp with gcc instead of packaging it separately.  

This doesn't much sense to me, at least not without more detail.

Why do gcc and cpp need to know each other's particular versions ?

There are lots of other things that are designed to work together
where a bit of version slippage doesn't matter.

Ian.


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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
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OVER 16 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   660 gdb        GDB gets address of structure  David Engel <david@ods.com>
   725 xbase      twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   740 xbase      xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   773 xbase      xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   775 xbase      twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   797 termcap-co /etc/termcap console keydefs f Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 15 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   818 bash       bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
   820 tcsh       tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
   821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
   825 trn        trn warning messages corrupt t jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
   836 termcap-co Possible bugs in termcap syste Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
   887 xarchie    xarchie barfs when ftp closes  Christian Linhart <chris@debian
   889 info       Info 3.1-6                     Erick Branderhorst <branderhors

OVER 14 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   902 lpr        lpr can't print a PostScript f Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
   911 libc4      libc causes rsh to fail on com (unknown -- `libc')
   957 dpkg       dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
   988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
   998 boot-flopp Can't Configure DOS Partitions Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1009 bash       bash problem with quoting/comp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>

OVER 13 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1016 procps     top has 3's in vt100           Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1037 dpkg       dselect user interface (was Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1045 termcap-co tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd) Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1061 lpr        /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  1099 perl       perl bug                       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1108 binutils   No manpage ar(5)               David Engel <david@ods.com>

OVER 12 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1112 gsfonts    a2gs output unusable by gs but joost witteveen <joostje@master
  1118 fortune    fortune is setuid games ?!     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1130 libc4      Stdlib.h problems when using g (unknown -- `libc')
  1164 shellutils who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1170 perl       perl fails to make headers fir Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1176 procps     /usr/bin/top segfault with unk Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1201 perl       perl doesn't know about includ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1211 libc4      libc __nis_getgrnam() segfault (unknown -- `libc')
  1239 findutils  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  1240 procps     ps(1) man page incomplete      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1246 procps     ps man page does not agree wit Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1247 perl       perl <...> globbing only works Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 11 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1265 uucp       Misc. uucp bugs                dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1275 xarchie    xarchie clumsy with 2-button m Christian Linhart <chris@debian
  1278 libc4      dpkg seg faults with NIS       (unknown -- `libc')
  1279 libc4      Strangeness involving <bsd/sig (unknown -- `libc')
  1281 bin86      bin86                          (unknown -- `bin')
  1292 xserver-sv X locks up                     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1303 binutils   `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1314 ncurses3.0 ncurses fails in silly way on  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  1336 procps     CFLAGS shouldn't be used when  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1366 acm        acm networking problems        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  1372 boot-flopp rootdisk: no dvorak keytable   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1378 libc4      weird ELF/a.out difference     (unknown -- `libc')
  1381 workbone   workbone postinst fails        dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1399 dpkg       dselect error handling not con Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1406 dbackup    backup postrm can fail when it dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1411 perl       perlconfig misses an opportuni Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1429 bibtex, kp several TeX packages Provide t Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1451 ghostview  `ghostviewR6' conflict with gh Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1467 ax25-kerne `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-ut (unknown -- `ax')
  1480 dpkg       start-stop-daemon doesn't chec Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1481 smail      smail paniclog suggestion      Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1488 dld        dld control file dsccription p gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  1502 ltxtool lt Uniform lists in debian.contro Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1526 dpkg       man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1532 repair     no revision number with repair Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1533 procps     `w' produces bogus login@, idl Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1549 bash       bash should not have world-rea Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1555 dpkg       dselect per-screen-half focus  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1560 shellutils `su' produces incomplete log e daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1616 shellutils 'who' can't find utmp          daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1621 xbase      Xmark has no manpage           Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1624 bash       thermal run away problem       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1642 dpkg       dpkg recursive package listing Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1647 texbin     dpkg can present incorrect inf Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1653 texbin     Missing dvicopy(1) man page.   Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1663 texbin     TeX comes without configuratio Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1664 texbin     TeX is lacking documentation o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1670 dpkg       start-stop-daemon is too slow  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1672 ftp.debian non-free packages              Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1681 cron       Missing files                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1685 libc4      dpkg-split --msdos not correct (unknown -- `libc')
  1686 mfbin      psfonts.map can't be found     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1690 xbase      XDM protection fault on X conf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1691 xbase      X config allows invalid numeri Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1693 smail      forwarded message from Harald  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1699 base       Install/Config quirks: Missing Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1702 bash       telnet+su root->thermal proces Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1703 xtron      xtron documentation            Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  1707 kernel     image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1708 adduser? m `passwd' not interruptible whe Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1711 adduser    adduser replaces NIS entries i Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1713 procps     procps: manpage doesn't tell t Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1714 bash       bash is confused when breaking Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1742 base       /dev/tty has wrong permissions Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1744 kernel     dpkg: cannot scan updates dire Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1746 bash       rsh <system> sh -i produces CP Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1747 nas        nas: no manpages for au availa Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  1759 kernel     running out of swap causes dea Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1767 cern-httpd cern-httpd installation        Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1771 ltxtool    Legal problems with ltxtool    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1774 libc4      <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH conta (unknown -- `libc')
  1791 dosemu     dosemu troubles                Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  1796 xserver-s3 missing call to ntohs in X ser (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  1797 dpkg       upgrade/downgrade dependency c Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1799 smail      smail nameresloving problems   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1803 termcap-co /etc/termcap linux definition  Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1818 dpkg       configure ordering based on Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1819 xbase      X11 doesn't set a lock on the  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1823 texbin     texbin postinst failed with er Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1834 bash       [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1845 trn        dead.letter and dead.article a jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  1853 procps     top fails after 130 processes? Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1855 base       packages adding entries to /et Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1856 perl       creating perl header files     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1858 kpathsea   kpathsea package does not inst Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1865 kpathsea   cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable:  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1873 dvipsk     dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize! Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1874 a2ps       a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!   (unknown -- `a')
  1879 emacs      Emacs shell mode weirdness - l Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  1881 majordomo  Majordomo UID wrong?           Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1885 base       base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1901 kbd        `compose' keytable command not Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  1908 procps     Top and tabs                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1914 kernel     general protection in unix_pro Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1916 perl       perl: wrong entries in Config. Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1921 dpkg       update-alternatives prompt, dp Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1922 kernel     1.3.43 Kernel is too nice      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1929 smail      aliasinclude and forwardinclud Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1933 procps     w from procps gives wrong idle Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1934 mfbin      font scaling problem           Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1954 base       setting up the network         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1955 base       base discs still aren't creati Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1962 kernel     kernel needs sbpcd.h editing i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1972 perl       perl should suggest kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1973 workbone   workbone postinst needs reword dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1981 xcontrib   xman fails to format ascii(7)  Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  1984 workbone   dpkg won't install cdtool      dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1985 xbase      xdm won't redirect to remote m Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1989 kernel     mmap bug?                      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1995 cron       run-parts on laptops           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1997 ncurses3.0 ncurses linux terminal definit (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2001 base       Incorrect ownership of audio d Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2009 mailx      mailx ignores ^C at Subject pr Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2010 mailx      mailx misses VM-generated From Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2011 libc4      very silly messages from rsh   (unknown -- `libc')
  2022 general    utmp corruption                debian-devel@pixar.com

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2023 texbin     latex dumps core on -QUIT      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2027 kpathsea   tiny bug in web2c debian.rules Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2037 bibtex     bibtex not searching $TEXINPUT Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2038 texbin     tex man page has unexpanded ma Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2039 xserver-ma X server font erosion          (unknown -- `xserver-mach')
  2051 xntp       /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handl Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2052 cron       find over NFS                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2054 latex,xdvi no subject (file transmission) Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2063 kernel     scsi driver sequence unreasona Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2064 kernel     aha1740 driver only supports o Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2067 lynx       lynx -source can't find docume Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2068 shellutils su doesn't su.                 daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2070 base       /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2076 ncurses-bi reset(1)                       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2085 ncurses3.0 /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs C (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2099 ax25-util  slip module stops axattach     (unknown -- `ax')
  2104 dvipsk     dvips doesn't provide color    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2105 kernel     console error messages "Source Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2110 bash       Bash tab completion of non alp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2112 inn        Submission for INN doc file    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2122 xdvik      xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2158 ncurses-te new ncurses bug ?              Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2159 procps     "ps pids" lists more than just Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2161 binutils   elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld ca David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2167 timezone   timezone zdump for US zones gi Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2169 timezone   timezone zdump utility should  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2170 timezone   timezone: it needs more docume Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2171 timezone   timezone: how to determine zon Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2177 strace     "strace -ff -o file dpkg --ins Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  2182 perl       perl shouldn't touch /usr/loca Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2183 emacs      emacs shouldn't touch /usr/loc Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2184 perl       perl's sys/socket.ph causes wa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2185 mflib      texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?   Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2186 texlib     national hyphenation patterns  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2196 ytalk      ytalk `shell' option can't run Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2197 hdparm     hdparm -c switch               Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  2198 uucp       uuxqt can't execute rmail      dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2200 ghostview  Description                    Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2205 most       Description                    Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  2206 rsynth     Description                    Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  2209 dld        Description                    gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2211 auto-pgp   Description                    Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  2220 inn        INN feed password interacts ba Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2231 mathpad    mathpad problems               Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2233 groff      groff-1.09-4                   Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2235 emacs      emacs eats manual pages        Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2241 perl       Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2242 mc (Midnig mc should depend on ncurses3.0 Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2243 xbase      xterm vanishes when it's big ( Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2251 perl       Perl coredumps while invoking  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2254 perl       perl doesn't initialize variab Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2265 bash       bash `horizontal scroll' can't Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2267 emacs      emacs ange ftp fails           Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2268 cern-httpd stale documentation links      Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2275 timezone   ctime(3) should be replaced by Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2284 mailx      mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends m Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2291 ncurses3.0 missing terminfo capabilities  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2292 shellutils date does not support dates pa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2293 uucp       uucp should compress big files dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2295 lynx       (no subject)                   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2296 bugs.debia debian-bugs WWW doesn't say ho Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2297 xbase      xterm gets mouse-paste and RET Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2298 trn        trn bug with shell escaping    jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  2301 bash       bash doesn't document any way  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2302 rcs        RCS - problems with msdos file Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2304 mount      umount calls gethostbyname() a Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2309 adduser    Multiple root accounts         Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  2311 svgalib1-b svgalib has undocumented setui (unknown -- `svgalib')

OVER 5 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2313 xbase      xterm keymapping problems susp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2318 emacs      Emacs makes it hard for MTAs t Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2321 libc5 (and libc doesn't use **h_aliases ( (unknown -- `libc')
  2334 mh         MH scan -width dumps core      Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2338 cron       finds in cron.daily should be  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2345 shellutils Inclusion of shadow breaks up  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2346 mh         MH can lose mail               Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2348 smail      Smail fails to define NO_PETER Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2353 xterm-colo postrm script broken           Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2356 mailx      mailx -- problems with TMPDIR  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2357 dvipsk     dvipsk generated PS causes `re Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2360 xbase      xdm cannot find a free VT      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2362 bash       bash (readline) dumps core on  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2365 pine       Pine erases message before I c Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2367 pine       Pine supplies PATH line when p Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2379 svgalib1   svgalib postinst broken        (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2382 nvi        would like `view' link for nvi Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2387 libc5-dev  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documente (unknown -- `libc')
  2392 emacs      Emacs mishandles fonts under X Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2402 procps     ps no longer understands `g' o Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2405 perl       perl postinst messages re unct Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2417 emacs      emacs inferior process buffers Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2423 smail      scattered sendmail links       Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2425 ispell     ispell thinks `formated' is co Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  2426 apache     apache overwrites existing hom Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2427 procps     top d 60 fails                 Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2428 nvi        nvi segmentation faults        Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2430 kermit     kermit configuration script is (unknown -- `kermit')
  2431 emacs      Emacs mishandles X fonts.      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2439 sysvinit   rc?.d scripts sometimes not ru Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2440 perl       sys/socket.ph produces spuriou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2450 cdtool     `cdir' prints out huge chunks  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2455 svgalib1   can't install svgalib1-1.28-5  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2460 procps     bizarre output from `free'     Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2463 kernel     "msdos" filesystem needed for  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2470 kernel     in kernel Attached ether adapt Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2474 ncurses-bi /usr/bin/reset does the wrong  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2475 at         `at' uses middle-endian 2-digi Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2476 emacs      emacs mucks up my email addres Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2477 emacs      annoying bug in emacs          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2478 emacs      ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2479 emacs      ange-ftp is incredibly ineffic Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2481 general    /sbin/ldconfig in scripts      debian-devel@pixar.com
  2483 libdb1     libdb1 uses not-yet-completely (unknown -- `libdb')
  2484 libgdbm1   libgdbm1 conflicts with some v (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  2486 xwpe       Ghost packages                 dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  2493 gcc        GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied e David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2495 perl       perl requires tcsh (as it is c Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2501 perl       (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2502 perl       configure fails if /vmlinuz is Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2503 elv-ctags  elvis and emacs both provide c mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill
  2504 libdb1     remove -m486 from Makefile     (unknown -- `libdb')
  2510 rxvt       rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au

OVER 4 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2520 procps     procps needs dependency on ncu Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2524 base       problems with base package     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2530 bind       bind locks up system           Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2531 dpkg       install-info should use better Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2532 emacs      Emacs fails to use `set -e' in Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2536 dpkg       dpkg inappropriately marks pac Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2538 base       audio devices have different g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2542 netatalk   No default config files?       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2547 tf         tf does not support visual mod Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2556 lpr        "\031\1"                       Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2557 elm        add to elm manpage             Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2562 elm        elm manpage paths incorrect    Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2569 boot-flopp bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2573 libc5-dev  sysinfo system call not in lib (unknown -- `libc')
  2575 ytalk      ytalk lies about who you are t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2576 dpkg       base: selecting [A]ccess with  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2589 perl       perl can't load libdb.so.1     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2590 perl       new revision of perl does not  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2591 dialog     rootdisk                       David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2592 elvisnox   Elvis Compilation Peoblem      sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  2593 perl       perl tries to install in /usr/ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2603 dpkg       dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when inst Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2604 ash        ash: cc: Internal compiler err Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2610 libg++27   support for m68k-linux         (unknown -- `libg++')
  2621 texbin     unstable/texbin install fails  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2630 emacs      emacs package needs to break c Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2634 emacs      emacs hung                     Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2648 mh                                        Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2650 win32binut win32binutils has /usr/bin/fle (unknown -- `win')
  2658 perl       Errors during perlconfig       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2661 mh         dist and mh both have a dist m Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2664 dpkg       arrow keys fail in dselect not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2671 timezone   timezone Mexico/General doesn' Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su

OVER 3 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2682 timezone   Zoneinfo library has a name-cl Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2688 base       base: wrong group for rft* dev Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2689 xemacs     (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2690 netatalk   netatalk: a few small problems Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2691 perl       new perl break suid scripts    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2692 kernel     kernel swap space problem      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2699 ytalk      ytalk doesn't use FQDNs        Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2701 seyon      seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't wo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2703 apache     apache: wrong location of icon Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2709 emacs      emacs should list /usr/lib/ema Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2710 xterm-colo colour xterm has problems when Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2714 emacs      Emacs and XEmacs share files   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2717 general    conffiles in /usr              debian-devel@pixar.com
  2721 procps     free fails to understand recen Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2728 procps     top coredump                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2731 emacs      emacs with gud creates ~/.term Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2733 mailx      /usr/bin/mail leaves lock file Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2737 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv: missing source  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2738 boot-flopp Installing Debian 1.1          Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2739 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2740 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2741 base       First booting with Debian 1.1  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2758 dld        dld: missing source file       gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2762 ax25-kerne ax25-kernel-source: missing so (unknown -- `ax')
  2764 texpsfnt   texpsfnt: missing source file  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2765 ax25-util  ax25-util: missing source file (unknown -- `ax')
  2774 syslinux   syslinux: missing source file  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2785 timezone   Timezone has static library?   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2789 elm        elm doesn't show rest of pgp-s Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2796 sysvinit   sysvinit makes obsolete symbol Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2797 nvi        nvi dumped core?               Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2802 apache     apache tweaks                  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2803 xdvik      xdvi does not handle redraws o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2806 ncurses3.0 ncurses man pages internal inc (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2808 cron       wrong crontab entry for atrun  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2810 uucp       uucp postrm should use -f flag dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2812 apache     Apache server: SECURITY HOLE   Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2814 apache     Apache 1.0.3: wrong manpage    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2818 bash       bash doesn't provide enough do Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2819 bind       named loses (in an easily fixe Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2822 inn        Some minor glitches with the i Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2823 mc         mc segfaults on reconnect of f Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2825 nvi        restricted movement in nvi     Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2828 dpkg       have to install xosview twice  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2829 emacs      emacs: gdb says: slashes aren' Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2832 nvi        nvi likes turning auto-margins Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2834 dpkg       desect loses state if it can't Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2839 xemacs     Xemacs problems                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2840 base       Conflicting entries in login/g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2841 procps     top produces `$<3>' at end of  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2850 boot-flopp nfs.o isn't loaded in clean de Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2852 g77        Bug 2711: g77 does not include (unknown -- `g')
  2855 nvi        nvi changes xterm settings...  Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2856 bash       fd leak in bash                Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2861 manpages   glob(3) references glob(7); th Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  2863 ncurses-ba dselect and ncurses in select  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2868 amd        amd hangs on tcsh hostname com Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  2870 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug             awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2872 apache     Apache starts several times    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2874 gpm        gpm will not work if the syste Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2876 svgalib1   svgalib will not work in a set (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2884 tkman      tkman doesn't use /var/catman  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2889 base       no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 bo Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2891 taper      taper documentation is missing Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  2892 setserial  setserial marked as Essential  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  2894 dpkg       dpkg guidelines info files not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2895 base       base -- incorrect passwd entry Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2896 libdb1     postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libdb')
  2899 libreadlin postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libreadline')
  2904 dpkg       install-info doesn't cope with Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2906 glibcdoc   Inconsistency in libc.info re  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2908 sysvinit   mesg sets wrong permissions on Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2909 gcc        GCC Info has funny formatting  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2910 gcc        GCC accepts multi-line strings David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2911 dpkg       Conffiles are deleted too late Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2913 ipx        ipx bootup scripts are broken  mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  2919 fort77     very bad fort77 installation m (unknown -- `fort')
  2920 base       incorrect entry for nobody in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2923 cdtool     CD-ROM device /dev/hdc permiss dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2926 lilo       Lilo: can't make documentation Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  2927 base       /usr/info/dir in base confuses Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2928 base       nobody has wrong login shell   Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2929 dpkg       dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.     Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2933 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002      awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2934 apache     Some cgi scripts don't work    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2937 bootdisk   Copyright message function key Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2938 procps     libproc is in wrong place      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2939 dpkg       Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2940 kernel     image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2942 timezone?, Wrong timezone for Europe/Wars Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2945 rootdisk   Bus Error given by rootdisk    Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  2946 lynx       Lynx gives fatal error message Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2956 bootdisk   beta experience                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2959 shellutils date +%Z bug                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da

Over two months old - attention is required:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2962 ncurses3.0 dselect arrow keys don't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2964 lynx       lynx -dump fails through proxy Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2965 lynx       lynxexec not compiled into lyn Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2966 bugs.debia bugs2ftp is broken             Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2969 man        zsoelim [in man] is confused b Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  2970 groff      soelim [in groff] is confused  Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2971 mailx      mailx doesn't quit on two succ Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2972 mfbin      MetaFONT linked against X libr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2973 dpkg       install-info created 5 Develop Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2975 base       [base] missing /dev entries    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2978 base       May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[3 Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2982 xntp       xntp calls ntpdate at start    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2989 rxvt       rxvt source bug                Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2991 elm        nfrm is not installed...       Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2998 bugs.debia bugs2ftp still flaky           Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  3002 base       majordomo has conflicting grou Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3019 kernel     no 386 support in kernel_image Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3026 xbase      xbase et al postinst doesn't f Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3027 base       updatedb can't run properly    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3031 boot-flopp various boot-floppies nits     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3035 nvi        nvi dumps core                 Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3036 base       automatic adduser/addgroup in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3038 lpr        SOLVED: can't remove print job Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3039 base       MAKEDEV script does not create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3040 kernel     Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3042 elm        Elm produces bogus Content-Typ Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3046 smail      Smail configuration problem?   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3047 cron       cron script problem?           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3050 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser man page installed  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3052 guile      guile is missing slib.info.gz  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3053 gnats      gnats: typo in postinst omits  bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. Whi
  3056 ash        ash-source contains objects    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3060 sysklogd   problems with new sysklogd-1.3 Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3064 boot-flopp need a pointer in /usr/doc/boo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3066 general    a.out binaries in various pack debian-devel@pixar.com
  3067 xaw3d      broken libXaw3d                (unknown -- `xaw')
  3070 base       base copyright string          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3073 xbase      xbase contains imake and xmkmf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3075 lpr, magic lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts fa Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3077 mfbin      gray font .mf files missing fr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3080 procps     error message in syslog caused Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3084 timezone   missing timezones              Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3087 shellutils Bug in date.                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3093 perl       Perl dumps core                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3095 xbase      xbase kills xdm and *then* ask Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3096 lxtools    lxtools: user error (misuse of Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3098 man        man-2.3.10-11 segfaults        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3099 cron       /etc/cron.daily/standard secur Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3102 procps     top has problems when not on c Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3103 sysklogd   "/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart" Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3105 lynx       lynx access to dot files is di Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3106 kernel     v 1.1 beta kernel image not fo Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3107 nas        nas postinst could use a warni Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3108 snmp       snmpd provides too much inform David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3109 man        man 9menu unpleasant           Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3110 xbase?     X servers muck up xdm when uni Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3112 uucp       UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3113 ncurses3.0 dselect provokes ncurses probl (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3114 cron       cron.daily/standard script     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3115 taper      taper recommends ftape         Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3119 emacs      emacs font handling            Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3121 boot-flopp boot-floppies doesn't have bas Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3122 debianutil run-parts should ignore RCS    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3124 cern-httpd CERN httpd sends useless cron  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3125 dpkg       bug (and correction) in dpkg-1 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3128 mc         mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3130 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3135 psnfss     psnfss has no Architecture fie Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3140 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bug Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3142 rootdisk   1.1 installation and large par Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3143 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3146 base, ae   1.1 installation: ae doesn't w Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3147 rootdisk   May 19 boot floppies...        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3148 cron       Cron: Cannot stat in /var/spoo Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3149 base       upgrading base truncates utmp  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3151 sendmail   Sendmail runs too late         Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3153 inn        inn ctlinnd not readable/execu Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3155 spice      spice still on my system       (unknown -- `spice')
  3156 lpr        lpr and smail uuname returned  Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3158 most       most differs from man page     Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3161 general    Newbie 1.1beta installation.   debian-devel@pixar.com
  3162 xbase      disconnects between ncurses-ba Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3163 ncurses-ba disconnects between ncurses-ba Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3164 smail      runq dumps core                Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3165 manpages   fcntl(2) references nonexisten Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3166 nvi        SIGSEGV on TERM=dumb           Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3169 genscript  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papers Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3170 dpkg       again dpkg --root=xxx          Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3174 bash       set -i doesn't work in bash    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3176 mandelspaw mandelspawn slave problems     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3177 bash       sh -nc <command> actually runs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3179 emacs      emacs ctags segfaults          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3180 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml semantics and fo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3182 cron       cron's checksecurity runs find Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3183 base       permissions problems with /var Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3185 bootdisk   Lack of NCR53c810 support on b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3186 xfractint  Can't chdir                    Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3189 nvi        nvi over-cautious about .exrc? Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3190 libc5      rlogin takes far too long when (unknown -- `libc')
  3191 ncurses-bi reset(1) doesn't bring an xter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3192 ncurses-bi tset(1) man page problem       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3195 kernel     "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fail Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3196 ispell     ispell symlinks broken         Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  3197 procmail   wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/proc Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3198 dviljk     dviljk is still aout! :-(      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3199 lists.debi Bizarre message from debian-de Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3202 dviljk     dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! : Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3206 rc         rc terminates on CTRL-C        Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3207 ncurses3.0 strange screen update choices  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3208 amd        amd bug                        Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3212 perl       Perl recommends nonexistent pa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3213 fortune    fortune need libc.so.4         dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3216 auto-pgp   auto-pgp doesn't remove info e Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3218 dpkg       install-info adds Miscellaneou Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3220 man        apropos dumps core             Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3223 guile      guile installs entry for slib, Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3224 apsfilter  apsfilter doesn't configure on Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3225 dpkg       dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems fr Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3227 login      login refuses, and then allows Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3230 perl       why the hell does perl depend  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3231 base       /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not pr Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3233 dpkg       dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2n Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3234 nvi        nvi segfaults if stty rows 0 c Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3235 nvi        nvi gives unhelpful message fo Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3240 libdb1     [libdb]: obsolete bugfix       (unknown -- `libdb')
  3241 emacs      derived.el fails in emacs      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3242 perl       perl's dependencies are wrong  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3244 libc5      (no subject)                   (unknown -- `libc')
  3245 mc         mc should depend on gpm        Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3246 xcompat    Cant load library libXt.so.6   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3247 lilo       Lilo unpack removes boot.b     Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or

Over one month old:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3250 cfingerd   cfingerd descriptive text      Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3252 base       base template /usr/info/dir ma Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3253 pine       Pine over-encodes files (came  Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3258 kernel     pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3259 util-linux [c]fdisk does not recognize NE Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3260 procps     psupdate man page out of date  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3265 kernel     kernel-image and PS/2 mouse pr Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3267 xbase      Unqualified hostnames in rstar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3268 kernel     network modules don't work wit Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3269 bootdisk   bootdisk silently fails-change Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3272 rootdisk   bug in root disks...           Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3275 kernel     dpkg --no-act leaves control i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3277 perl       nit: perl setup emits a \n     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3279 bootdisk/r ne2000 lockups during instalat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3280 gpm        (no subject)                   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3283 perl       /usr/bin/perlconfig should be  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3284 giftrans   giftrans is free               Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3287 maelstrom  (no subject)                   Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3290 sysvinit   sysvinit path doesn't include  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3292 xcal       xcal app-defaults shouldn't be Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3295 perl       perls debian.rules doesn't wor Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3296 perl       /bin/perl is not updated       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3300 xserver-sv xserver-svga configuration     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3302 cron       savelog seems to be missing fr Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3304 rman       [rman] Off-by-one in generated Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3305 dchanges   dchanges: urg= override is ign awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3307 ddd-smotif ddd-smotif does not replace dd Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3308 xmanpages  X(1) manpage in wrong place?   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3312 mathpad    installation and startup probl Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3314 base       On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3315 base       Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3317 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml info files are m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3319 deliver    deliver does not set exit code Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3320 bootdisk   Kernel oops - problem with APM Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3321 libgdbm1   libgdbm.so version number...   (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3323 mflib      MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3324 sysklogd   Non-existant conffile not crea Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3327 cern-httpd cern-httpd postinst hangs if d Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3328 gawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3330 gcc        Problems encountered while com David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3335 libdb1     Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libdb')
  3336 less       Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3338 libc5      Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libc')
  3342 libgdbm1   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3345 libreadlin Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libreadline')
  3348 patch      Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3349 procmail   Problems encountered while com Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3350 procps     Problems encountered while com Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3353 bash       Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3358 cron       Problems encountered while com Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3359 shellutils Problems encountered while com daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3361 byacc      Problems encountered while com dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3362 mingetty   Problems encountered while com Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  3363 timezone   Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3364 symlinks   Problems encountered while com Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet
  3366 smail      Problems encountered while com Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3368 cron       cron's checksecurity still sca Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3370 cern-httpd httpdconfig installs Welcome.h Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3372 mgetty     mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3373 gpm        gpm -k hangs if X server runni Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3374 cvs        CVS wrappers can't be turned o Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3382 workbone   workbone disappears during upg dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3384 apache     apache leaves /var/log/httpd n Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3385 xosview    xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (agai joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3386 lynx       lynx version number changes    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3387 base       base leaves /tmp/base.postinst Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3393 kernel     printer-driver problem in kern Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3394 at         /etc/crontab has a bad entry   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3395 xbase      can't login via xdm            Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3396 tcsh       tcsh doesn't provide c-shell   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3397 kernel     (no subject)                   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3400 emacs      gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-1 Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3406 dpkg       dselect unreadable under xterm Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3407 fvwm2      fvwm2: WindowList infelicity   Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3408 passwd     Various bugs in passwd manpage Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3409 base       Could not make boot floppy     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3410 dpkg       some problems/bugs/suggestions Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3413 pcb        linked with aout libXaw        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3415 latex      Xdvi and postscript fonts      Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3420 rootdisk   Boot disk creats corrupted fil Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3421 base       /tmp installs wrongly          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3422 ncurses3.0 termcap entry too long error   (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3423 perl       Problems installing kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3431 www.debian some packages have no informat Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3433 cfingerd   weird output if cfingerd.conf: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3434 perl       pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cu Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3437 fvwm       fvwm should not recommend fvwm Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3439 login      Login reconfigures serial port Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3442 python     python postinst is very verbos Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3448 apache     Apache purge gives several err Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3451 rootdisk   Missing label 'llseek' in e2fs Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3454 ucbmpeg    ucbmpeg control file problems  Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3456 a2gs       a2gs prompt looks like `please (unknown -- `a')
  3457 diald      diald control file problems    Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3458 dviljk     dviljk missing prompt for inpu Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3459 inn        inn should Depend on inewsinn, Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3462 inn        INN postinst and configuration Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3466 tcsh, csh  tcsh, csh should use update-al Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3467 cern-httpd cern-httpd curious message     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3468 textfm, te textfm and texlib file conflic Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3469 lynx       lynx default home page         Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3470 apache     apache problems                Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3475 xpaint     xpaint Recommends pbmplus      Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3476 cnews      cnews description is gibberish Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3477 cnews, ine cnews and inews should be same Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3478 bind       bind should use lowercase `non Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3480 mkisofs    missing information in manpage Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3483 enscript   using args with spaces in gens (unknown -- `enscript')
  3484 manpages   broken reference to (un)link(8 Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3486 cern-httpd forwarded message from Cron Da Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3488 rootdisk   basedisks modconf problems     Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3489 rootdisk   basedisks configuration proble Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3490 adduser    adduser password-setting probl Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3491 rootdisk   basedisks newly booted system  Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3493 base       Teles ISDN card installation b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3494 manpages   ftw(3) typos                   Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3495 npasswd_bo doesn't respect nis/yp         Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3496 cron       checksecurity patch for nfs mo Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3497 smail      smail calls obsolete yp_order  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3503 uucp       still a.out (and src doesn't b dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3505 bind       ndc does not use start-stop-da Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3507 bind       named postinst mangled my conf Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3508 guile      guile doesn't have right permi Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3509 ucbmpeg    mpeg_play puts bogus statistic Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3510 nas        removal of nas doesn't kill 'a Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3511 debianutil typo on installkernel man page Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3514 dialog     Required package modconf depen David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3515 gdb        gdb prints corrupted message   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3516 kernel     SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can ca Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3517 inn        innd won't remove syslog.conf  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3521 mc         mc core dumps                  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3525 j1         j1 hard-linked docs/manpages   (unknown -- `j')
  3529 ftp.debian libgr and zlib1 collide, but d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3530 dchanges   dchanges can create bad change awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3531 dchanges   dchanges should default to '-  awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  3532 indent     Problems encountered while bui Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3533 rc         Problems encountered while bui Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3535 taper      Problems encountered while bui Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3538 bash       bash on m68k doesn't use ncurs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3539 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if an error occu Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3540 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a problem occ Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3541 libc5      rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED! (unknown -- `libc')
  3542 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3543 git        Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3544 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3545 pgp-i      Problems encountered while com Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3547 mc         Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3548 acm        acm description: no ext        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3550 amstex     amstex description: no ext     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3551 automake   automake description: summary  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3552 aout-binut aout-binutils description: no  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3553 aout-librl aout-librl description: no ext Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3554 bdflush    bdflush description: summary s Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3555 apache     apache description: ext extra  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3557 base       base description: no ext       Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3558 beav       beav description: ext extra sp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3559 acs        acs description: no ext        adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3561 bash       bash description: no ext       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3562 elviscmn   elviscmn description: no ext   sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  3565 dbview     dbview description: ext extra  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3566 dejagnu    dejagnu description: summary s Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3567 byacc      byacc description: no ext      dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3568 bin86      bin86 description: no ext      (unknown -- `bin')
  3569 emacs-el   emacs-el description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3571 fortune    fortune description: summary s dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3572 dld        dld description: ext start ind gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3573 diald      diald description: ext start b Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3574 binutils   binutils description: no ext   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3575 boot-flopp boot-floppies description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3578 dlltools   dlltools description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3580 f2c        f2c description: no ext        (unknown -- `f')
  3582 electric-f electric-fence description: no Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  3583 fort77     fort77 description: no ext     (unknown -- `fort')
  3584 g77        g77 description: ext start ind (unknown -- `g')
  3586 findutils  findutils description: no ext  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3587 gnuplot    gnuplot description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3588 git        git description: ext extra spa Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3590 libjpeg6a  libjpeg6a description: ext sta (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3592 ipx        ipx description: no ext        mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3594 gwm        gwm description: no ext        Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3595 grep       grep description: no ext       Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  3596 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3598 ghostview  ghostview description: ext sta Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3599 gdb        gdb description: no ext        David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3601 minicom    minicom description: no ext    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3602 manpages-d manpages-de description: no ex Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3606 lynx       lynx description: ext extra sp Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3607 rc         rc description: no ext         Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3608 libjpeg6a- libjpeg6a-dev description: no  (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3609 shellutils shellutils description: no ext daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3610 xfntcyr    xfntcyr description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3611 libwww-per libwww-perl description: no ex Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3612 libdb1     libdb1 description: no ext     (unknown -- `libdb')
  3613 mh-papers  mh-papers description: no ext  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3614 symlinks   symlinks description: ext extr Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet
  3616 less       less description: ext extra sp Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3617 mawk       mawk description: ext extra sp Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3620 most       most description: summary star Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3621 lxtools    lxtools description: no ext    Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3626 libg++27   libg++27 description: no ext   (unknown -- `libg++')
  3628 modconf    modconf description: no ext    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3629 pmake      pmake description: no ext      Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3630 ncpfs      ncpfs description: summary sta mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3631 oleo       oleo description: no ext       Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3632 nis        nis description: summary start Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3634 nvi        nvi description: no ext        Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3635 pcb        pcb description: no ext        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3637 w3-el      w3-el description: no ext      (unknown -- `w')
  3638 setserial  setserial description: no ext  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3640 tkdesk     tkdesk description: ext start  Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3641 unarj      unarj description: ext start i Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.a
  3642 syslinux   syslinux description: no ext   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3643 taper      taper description: no ext      Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3644 procmail   procmail description: no ext   Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3645 slang-deve slang-devel description: ext e Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3647 timezone   timezone description: summary  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3649 win32libs  win32libs description: no ext  (unknown -- `win')
  3650 xfntbig    xfntbig description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3651 win32gcc   win32gcc description: no ext   (unknown -- `win')
  3653 win32binut win32binutils description: no  (unknown -- `win')
  3654 xcoral     xcoral description: summary st Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3655 wenglish   wenglish description: no ext   Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3657 xfnt100    xfnt100 description: no ext    (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3661 xlib       xlib description: no ext       Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3662 xslib      xslib description: no ext      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3663 xfntscl    xfntscl description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3664 workbone   workbone description: no ext   dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3665 xfnt75     xfnt75 description: no ext     (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3670 idanish    idanish description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3671 dosemu     dosemu description: no ext     Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3672 idutch     idutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3673 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3675 xwpe       xwpe description: no ext       dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3676 zoo        zoo description: summary start Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3677 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3678 xxgdb      xxgdb description: no ext      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3680 auto-pgp   auto-pgp description: ext star Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3681 tkman      tkman description: summary sta David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3682 wswedish   wswedish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3684 rsynth     rsynth description: summary st Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3687 wfrench    wfrench description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3688 wnorwegian wnorwegian description: no ext jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3691 witalian   witalian description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3692 zip        zip description: no ext        Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  3693 unzip      unzip description: no ext      Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  3697 wdutch     wdutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3698 wspanish   wspanish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3699 xpaint     xpaint description: summary st Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3700 www.debian Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3703 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a permission  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3704 dpkg       Weird dselect behavior (bug?)  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3705 procmail   procmail does close(-1)        Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3707 elm        Problems encountered while com Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3711 uucp       Problems encountered while com dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3712 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3713 p2c        Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `p')
  3714 term       Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3717 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3718 ash        Problems encountered while com Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3720 shutdown   shutdown prints "You don't exi (unknown -- `shutdown')
  3721 termcap-co Problems while compiling "term Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  3724 libc5-dev  nlist() missing from libc      (unknown -- `libc')
  3725 man        Another data point on apropos  Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3726 ed         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3727 bc         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3728 ee         Problems while compiling "ee"  Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3729 nvi        Problems while compiling "nvi" Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3730 xbase      improper lookup of window mana Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3731 snmp       snmpd: patch for hrProcessorLo David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3734 xbase et a X11 problems                   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3735 cern-httpd cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn o Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3737 xosview    xosview uses -O3 -f...         joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3739 man        `man -l -' for stdin doesn't w Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3740 modconf    A couple of problems popped up Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3742 tcpdump    tcpdump doesn't notice icmp pa Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3743 netpbm     Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.

Submitted in the last month:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3747 setserial  "setserial" doesn't support mu Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3748 fvwm       Pixmaps missing from fvwm pack Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3750 xserver-s3 X server inaccessible sometime (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  3751 xbase      xconsole stops logging when sy Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3752 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3753 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3754 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3755 xaw3d      xaw3d shouldn't automatically  (unknown -- `xaw')
  3756 sendmail   sendmail has wrong path to pro Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3759 ghostview  xxgdb and ghostview have bad M Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3761 base       LILO installation problem      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3762 setserial  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usuall Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3765 dpkg       dpkg and kernel-* package name Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3766 man        "man" acting too smart.        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3769 sysklogd   problems with sysklogd postins Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  3770 perl       dodgy `\n' in perl postinst    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3772 lilo       lilo should not depend on MBR  Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3773 xless      xless default window too thin  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3775 login      upgrading login temporarily br Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3777 util-linux mkfs.minix option parsing oddi Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3782 bsdmainuti GNU nm breaks lorder           Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3784 perl       perl does not install on base  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3785 perl       perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") an Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3786 base       base includes anonymous ftp ac Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3787 tin        tin uses /etc/news/description Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3788 man        `apropos' matches only word-su Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3789 mbr        `mbr' package doesn't say how  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3791 cfingerd   Problems with "cfingerd" when  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3792 netpbm     Problems with "netpbm" when co Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3793 pmake      bsd.lib.mk incompatible with G Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3794 adduser    adduser should not be essentia Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3795 ae         ae should not be essential     Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3798 passwd     passwd should not be essential Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3799 timezone   timezone should not be essenti Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3800 setserial  setserial should not be essent Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3801 ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0 should not be essen (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3803 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3804 npasswd-bo npasswd-boulder doesn't change Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3805 base       /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3808 ppp        ppp postinst gives error       Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3809 base       /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still aro Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3810 ftp.debian linux.ucs.indiana.edu is no lo Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3812 apsfilter  Apsfilter should depend on fil Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3813 lilo       (no subject)                   Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3814 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3815 bsdutils   "ndc stats" fails              Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3816 uucp       uucp is still a.out            dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3818 fortune    fortune is still a.out !       dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3823 gdb        Gdb's `handle' command behavio David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3824 exmh       exmh fails to start            Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  3825 libc5      %p either misbehaves or misdoc (unknown -- `libc')
  3827 tk40       Tk4.0's bell flashes the displ (unknown -- `tk')
  3829 ncurses-bi tic.1 refers to unavailable in Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3830 ncurses-bi captoinfo confused by /etc/ter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3832 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3833 nis        Manual pages for some yp* prog Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3834 squid      squid core dumps regularly     Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3835 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3837 xv         Why isn't xv linked with the l Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3838 gcc        GCC should depend on CPP, not  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3839 autoconf   autoconf wants `nawk'          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3842 tkdesk, tk tkdesksh grows really large    Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3843 ncurses-ba dselect resets automargins in  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3844 manpages   getpeername(2) man page does n Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3845 compface   invalid directories in compfac Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3846 lynx       lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3847 perl       Perl & G++                     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3848 a2gs       "a2gs" requires changes to sup (unknown -- `a')
  3849 acm        "acm" requires changes to supp Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3850 cern-httpd "cern-httpd" requires changes  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3851 acs        "acs" requires changes to supp adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3852 cnews      "cnews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3853 dld        "dld" requires changes to supp gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3855 fortune    "fortune" requires changes to  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3856 guille     "guile" requires changes to su (unknown -- `guille')
  3857 xcontrib   listres dumps core             Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3861 adduser    when adduser runs finger it di Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3862 inews      "inews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3865 j1         "j1" requires changes to suppo (unknown -- `j')
  3866 hdparm     "hdparm" requires changes to s Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  3869 nntp       "nntp" requires changes to sup Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3870 p2c        "p2c" requires changes to supp (unknown -- `p')
  3872 pcb        "pcb" requires changes to supp Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3873 xosview    Xosview hangs when a dummy net joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3874 perl       Archive of perl 5.003-2 is bro Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3875 lynx       Lynx thinks *.deb files are "t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3876 cron       checksecurity shouldn't search Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3877 svgalib1-d /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  3878 adduser    adduser --home aborts if dir e Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3879 adduser    adduser: man page has '=V' str Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3881 rspfd      "rspfd" requires changes to su Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3882 snmp       "snmp" requires changes to sup David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3884 tcl75      "tcl75" requires changes to su (unknown -- `tcl')
  3885 umsdos     "umsdos' requires changes to s Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3886 tf         "tf" requires changes to suppo Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3888 workbone   "workbone" requires changes to dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3890 uucp       "uucp" requires changes to sup dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3892 rootdisk   mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbo Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3895 mgetty, ne file conflicts: mgetty vs netp Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3896 mgetty     /sbin/mgetty is not world-read Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3897 mgetty     mgetty syslogs with priority ` Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3898 mgetty     mgetty has bogus errno in usag Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3899 mgetty     mgetty doesn't remove logfiles Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3900 mgetty     mgetty doesn't work            Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3902 base       base disks' network configurat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3904 ncurses3.0 ncurses on mono linux console  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3905 base       base disks still install part  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3906 xbase      Errors in the Compose file for Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3908 perl       perl h2ph problem              Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3911 a2ps       "a2ps" requires changes for mu (unknown -- `a')
  3912 wnorwegian "wnorwegian" requires changes  jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3913 idanish    "idanish" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3914 wdutch     "wdutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3915 biff       "biff" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3916 unzip      "unzip" requires changes for m Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  3917 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3919 tkman      "tkman" requires changes for m David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3921 kpathsea   "kpathsea" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3922 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3923 witalian   "witalian" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3924 vim        "vim" requires changes for mul Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  3925 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  3926 wspanish   "wspanish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3927 wfrench    "wfrench" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3928 wswedish   "wswedish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3929 cdtool     "cdtool" requires changes for  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  3930 giftrans   "giftrans" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3931 idutch     "idutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3932 rsynth     "rsynth" requires changes for  Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3934 zip        "zip" requires changes for mul Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  3936 uucp       uutraf dumps core in gmtime()  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3937 uucp       uutraf has repeated words in m dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3939 man        /etc/manpath.config is not a c Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3940 apache     Apache's default index.html sa Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3942 tin        tin cannot find Newsgroup Desc Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3944 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  3946 ae         "zyxel" requires changes for m Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3950 inn        INN message size limitation to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3951 kernel-ima Package 'kernel-image-2.' V2.0 (unknown -- `kernel-image-')
  3952 less       Less annoyances                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3953 tk41       Tk 4.1's bell flashes the disp (unknown -- `tk')
  3954 xcontrib   xload dont needs tu run suid   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3955 bison      yacc script uses $* instead of Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  3961 zoo        14 character file name limit i Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3962 pixmap     Pixmap "calloc" problem        joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3963 abuse      abuse                          Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3966 bind       nslookup: fatal flex scanner i Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3967 nvi        hex codes instead of 8-bit cha Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3968 rootdisk   installation checks for CD-ROM Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3969 apache     Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole     Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3970 cvs        cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3973 nvi        Home/End keys don't work right Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3974 ncurses3.0 problem with arrow keys in dse (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3975 netpbm     netpbm is mostly free          Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3978 lists.debi problem (re)subscribing to deb Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3979 libc5-dev  <linux/if_arp.h> needs further (unknown -- `libc')
  3980 netstd     netstd many compiler warnings  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3983 base       Wrong entry in /etc/group      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3984 libc5      NIS writes error message to ST (unknown -- `libc')
  3986            inconsistency between base and (unknown)
  3988 kbd        Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard m Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3989 procps     `w' produces corrupted output  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3990 xbase      xdm-errors location not what F Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3991 dselect    dselect has confusing and biza (unknown -- `dselect')
  3993 mount      users can't umount user mounts Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3994 base       ae won't deinstall             Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3999 kernel     nfs module fails to load       Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  4000 emacs      emacs can't initialize x windo Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4002 base       base wipes out utmp & wtmp     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4003 dchanges   minor typo in dchanges         awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  4004 syslinux   procinfo breaks without module Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4005 lynx       Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *. Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4006 fileutils  Fileutils has /usr/libexec dir Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4007 netstd     identd doesn't seem to be corr Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4008 cvs        CVS texinfo docs won't format  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4009 base       /bin/edit causes error after a Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4011 gcc        simple c++ program segfaults   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4012 xbase      xbase: `window-managers' was u Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4013 groff      groff version is old           Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  4014 netpbm     netpbm is missing manual pages Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4015 xbase      xterm & xterm.color sets broke Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4016 elvisctags ref not in elvisctags          sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4017 bootdisk   boot disk doesn't recognize NC Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4019 Boot1440.b Decompression failure on Insta (unknown -- `boot')
  4020 base       Base shouldn't contain /var/ru Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4021 auctex     "auctex" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4023 mgt        "mgt" requires changes for mul Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com
  4024 cvs        "cvs" requires changes for mul Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4026 pcb        "pcb" requires changes for mul Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4027 xless      "xless" requires changes for m Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4028 motifnls   "motifnls" requires changes fo Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4030 sam        "sam" requires changes for mul Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  4031 vm         "vm" requires changes for mult Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4032 rxvt       "rxvt" requires changes for mu Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4033 xosview    "xosview" requires changes for joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4034 elvis      "elvis" requires changes for m (unknown -- `elvis')
  4035 xbmbrowser "xbmbrowser" requires changes  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4036 xcontrib   "xcontrib" requires changes fo Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4037 xtel       "xtel" requires changes for mu Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4038 untex      "untex" requires changes for m Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  4039 xringd     "xringd" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4040 x10        "x10" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `x')
  4041 xtrlock    "xtrlock" requires changes for Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4042 unclutter  "unclutter" requires changes f dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  4043 xearth     "xearth" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4044 tkined     "tkined" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4045 electric-f "electric-fence" requires chan Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  4046 xpaste     "xpaste" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4047 makeindex  "makeindex" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4048 dosemu     access permissions for /usr/bi Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4049 sysklogd   access permissions for sysklog Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4051 fdutils    access permissions for /usr/bi Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.o
  4052 bison      access permissions for /usr/bi Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4053 dosemu     a) still a.out b) script: i ha Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4056 xserver-s3 mouse cursor in X3 server is c (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4057 compress-p compress package install addit Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4058 libpaper,  /etc/papersize doesn't allow s Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4059 pine       public readable editor-backups Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4060 boot       Kernel decompression failure.  (unknown -- `boot')
  4061            Debian                         (unknown)
  4062 procps     running ps as root does not re Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4063 magicfilte magicfilter has wrong path     David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  4064 sendmail   sendmail should recommend deli Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4065 sendmail   FEATURE(local_procmail) needs  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4066 xserver-s3 strangeness with X3 server     (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4067 Umsdos     Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.    Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  4068 perl-tk    pgs in perl-tk does not work   Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  4069            slrn gives error               (unknown)
  4070 snmp       snmpd: hrStorageSize fix       David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4071 hyperlatex ps2gif has incorrect pathname  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4072 cpio       cpio package is missing rmt.8  Brian Mays <brian@debian.org>
  4073 make       make pattern rules delete inte Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilg
  4074 dpkg       problems with 1.1 release      Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4075 lrzsz      Possible security problem with Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  4076 shadow     shadow-package (not a deb-form Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.o
  4079 compress-p compress-package should be in  Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4081 xosview    xosview doesn't install a bina joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4082 fvwm       No documentation for fvwm modu Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4084 tar        New tar may be broken.         Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
  4085 sendmail   /etc/init.d/sendmail does not  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4086 netstd     rsh segfaults with baudrate=11 Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4087 xcontrib   xgc dumps core                 Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4088 ghostview  ghostview does not put filenam Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4089 base       problems with rc.local         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4090            /etc/init.d/kerneld uses grep  (unknown)
  4091 netstd     Ftp does not wait for user ans Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho

The listing by package maintainer is posted every Wednesday,
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Please see the documentation for more information about how to
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Ian Jackson:
> The point of not putting things in /usr/local isn't, as I see it, so

Well, I'm not in full agreement, but it's not important enough.

> I propose the following resolution:

I can live with the what you propose.

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This is the Perl5 module that I've been using to support my dpkg
manual processing backends.  Because it's in the new source format
and refers to an as-yet-nonexistent virtual package I'm sending it
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Ian Jackson:
> I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
> 
> Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?

See signature.

Actually, not Cc:ing should be the default for all people on all lists.
For those who don't know, Cc means carbon copy, not courtesy copy.

And having the list server put in a Reply-to to the list is the wrong
answer, because it makes it more difficult to reply to one person instead
of the list in many MUA's.

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Yes, it is. I am using the latest debian stable distribution.
Simply cd to /n  (which is mapped to the following amd.host contents:

/defaults       opts:=grpid,intr,nosuid,rsize=8192,wsize=8192
*               host==${key};type:=link;fs:=/ || type:=host;rhost:=${key}

)

and type 'ls' there.  It will just hang when you do that.  Then, when I
compiled my own amd from upl67 from sunsite, the problem went away.


On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Dominik Kubla wrote:

> Could you please check that this is still true in the latest release?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Dominik
> 


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first, thanks for clearing up a lot of the arguments. This is the
first message I've seen that actually gives a justification for doing
something new and different...

re dynamically updating the same file -- I guess that does make sense,
and the lack of mechanism for /etc/services and inetd.conf has
actually caused me trouble recently.  (I'd take that as an argument
for *more* micromanagement scripts [it would make it easier to fix the
/etc/passwd problem that mhpower mentioned], but in those cases we
can't really change the "database" because of existing use, whereas
with emacs we are free to do that.)

You're right, rc.boot has worked pretty well. (I'm a little less
sanguine about rc?.d, but they *seem* to do the right thing...)

Hmm. As for dpkg needing install-elisp, I'm not quite sure I buy that,
because it would seem to argue that *any* install-* should be included
in dpkg. Then again, there is only install-info which *is* in dpkg,
and install-mime which is in mime-support which has it's own
justification. There aren't any others...

Hmm. Dpkg already does a good job with creating needed directories, as
well... so it would really be sufficient for any package to drop in an
emacs mode without actually having emacs installed yet. Interesting.

I guess the only thing unresolved is what directory to use, and what
the little bit of elisp should look like that scans the directory.
I'll look at the text explaining rc.d numbering to see what makes
sense for that. (I guess in theory we need the ordering, but in
practice, with autoload, do we need ordering here at all? certainly
none of the existing packages need it. But I suppose picking an order
at least makes debugging easier...)

So, do these files go in /var/lib/emacs, /etc/emacs, or
/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp, and why?  I can set it up and send changes
to the emacs package maintainers this weekend if that gets worked
out... 


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Ian Jackson writes:
 > Yves Arrouye writes ("Qmail, smail and sendmail"):
 > > Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support
 > > being called as sendmail with the -bi option?
 > > 
 > > The same questions may be asked for smail.
 > 
 > Well, perhaps we should just say that you can edit /etc/aliases and
 > must run newaliases afterwards if it exists.

That's what I do. I even run sendmail -bi if newaliases is not found.
But I wanted to be sure that all mail packages do provide the same
user way of defining aliases, even if they manage them differently after
that.

Yves.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
 > You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
 > > GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
 > > 
 > > "0¨´
 > >     @/core": not in executable format: File format not recognized
 > > 
 > > So there's a problem there. Do you have an idea about who is faulty? Gdb?
 > 
 > As I understand it, the way you call gdb is
 > 
 > gdb [executable] [its core file]
 > 
 > preferrably with [executable] compiled with -g and linked statically
 > 
 > I doubt that gdb can read core files without an accompanying executable..

You're right, sorry. It's

	gdb [otheropts] [prog[core|procID]]

But the message is really misleading... It would ne nice if Gdb checked
wether the prog arg was a core first, and in this case tell that's the
case and remind usage. (Not that I ask that it does that: I should have
read the manual page, of course.)

Yves.


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Ian Jackson writes:
 > I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
 > not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
 > 
 > Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?

It would be nice also to not have long messages fully quoted :-(

Also, could it be possible to arrange so that when we do a reply on
this list (or other debian lists), it goes to

	some-list@lists.debian.org

and not to the mail author? This would help a lot.

Yves.


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Maybe should it kill the process whose pid is in the pidfile, even if
it does not think the executable is running?

Here is an example of the problem:

marin66# /etc/init.d/apache stop
no /usr/sbin/apache found; none killed.
marin67# cat /var/run/apache/apache.pid 
12707
marin68# ps -ax|grep 12707
12707  ?  S    0:00 /usr/sbin/apache 
20378  p9 S    0:00 grep 12707 

And /etc/init.d/apache is:

#! /bin/sh
#
# apache	Start the apache HTTP server.
#
#
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/apache
NAME=apache

test -f $DAEMON || exit 0

if [ -d /var/run/apache ]
then
    PIDFILE=/var/run/apache/$NAME.pid
else
    PIDFILE=/var/run/$NAME.pid
fi

case "$1" in
  start)
    start-stop-daemon --start --verbose --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON
    ;;
  stop)
    start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON
    ;;
  reload)
    echo "Reloading $NAME configuration files"
    start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE \
	--exec $DAEMON
    ;;
  *)
    echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/$NAME {start|stop|reload}"
    exit 1
    ;;
esac

exit 0

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Version: 2.06-1

Hi...

This isn't really a major bug, however it still needs to be fixed :-)

There is some incomplete finger information (to the wtmp?) being generated -
it may be best if I show you a partial output of a "w" command:

wafish   ttyS1     5:30pm    10                -
elliott  ttyS11    3:23pm  2:17                -

And the respective finger enteries:

elliott                       *S1  2:18  Aug 10 15:23 (57600/26400 LAP)
wafish                        *S1    11  Aug 10 17:30 (57600/28800 LAP)

There seems to be a missing "1" for the user "elliott".  However, if I
finger elliott directly, then it does report that he's on ttyS11 - just not
in the standard ``finger'' output.  Is it possible to add the extra diget here?

Regards,


...Karl

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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
> 
> Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?

I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the
list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address
and Cc: deleted.

This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad idea) to
put this in the debian list server?

Mike.
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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> The new source package format has been debated for some time, and I've
> now implemented the tools to manage an arrangement which I think meets
> our requirements.  There hasn't been much feedback.

That's probably because a lot of people aren't listening. Alas. I've
almost ported all of base (and gcc, and binutils-2.7, etc) to the Alpha
architecture and about 50% of the base packages doesn't even have
Architecture: support. So I'd say unless someone objects, go for it.
The main reason I haven't commented is that it actually looks very good
to me, apart from one thing that I've one now though of (see below).

I also think that when you make the new source package official, we
should warn all maintainers of the base packages and ask them to convert
their packages to the new standard. If they don't react in say 2 weeks,
someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did during the
transition from a.out to ELF.

[advantages deleted]
> These advantages make it easier for maintainers to take over each
> others' packages, and will I hope make the m68k and alpha porters'
> lives easier (when completed, at least).

Well, one other idea. Since the original source and the patch are kept
in the archive, would it be possible to look for an additional architecture
dependant patch? For example, if you have

bash-1.14.6-1.dsc
bash-1.14.6-1.EXTRA.alpha.diff.gz

and you're compiling under the alpha architecture the extra diff will be
added automatically? It would be a tremendous advantage when porting to
a new architecture - the porter need only supply the extra patch to the
debian archive and it will "just work". Also, the patch will be in a public
place so that the original maintainer can integrate the patch in the
next version of the package.

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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Emacs per-package startup files"):
...
>  [it would make it easier to fix the
> /etc/passwd problem that mhpower mentioned], but in those cases we
> can't really change the "database" because of existing use, whereas
> with emacs we are free to do that.)

Right, that was my line of thought exactly.

...
> Hmm. As for dpkg needing install-elisp, I'm not quite sure I buy that,
> because it would seem to argue that *any* install-* should be included
> in dpkg. Then again, there is only install-info which *is* in dpkg,
> and install-mime which is in mime-support which has it's own
> justification. There aren't any others...

If anyone writes others I'll be happy to include them in dpkg,
provided that they're GPL'd.

...
> So, do these files go in /var/lib/emacs, /etc/emacs, or
> /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp, and why?  I can set it up and send changes
> to the emacs package maintainers this weekend if that gets worked
> out... 

It needs to be in /etc, and the files must be conffiles, so that
sysadmins can edit them and so forth.

I suggested /etc/emacs/site-start.d because we already have one Emacs
/etc file and /etc is already full of stuff.

> I guess the only thing unresolved is what directory to use, and what
> the little bit of elisp should look like that scans the directory.

How about making /usr/lib/emacs/site-start.el a file rather than a
symlink, and having it load /etc/emacs/site-start.el and run
/etc/emacs/site-start.d.

> I'll look at the text explaining rc.d numbering to see what makes
> sense for that. (I guess in theory we need the ordering, but in
> practice, with autoload, do we need ordering here at all? certainly
> none of the existing packages need it. But I suppose picking an order
> at least makes debugging easier...)

If you just sort the filenames before you run them you'll get the
ordering for free, and if we say that people who don't know what
number to use or don't think they have ordering constraints use 50
then if we do decide we want something loaded early we can do it.

Ian.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
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> I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the
> list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address
> and Cc: deleted.
> 
> This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad idea) to
> put this in the debian list server?

This makes it hard in some mailers to reply to just the poster.

Ian.


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There are a couple of circumstances when a new version of a package
needs to be released by someone other than the usual maintainer:

 * Architecture-specific patches which need to be integrated.
 * Maintainer is away or can't do it for some other reason.
 * Urgent security and other fixes.

I propose that we should mandate:
 (a) a broad description of when you should and when you shouldn't do
     this, and how not to tread on the usual maintainer's toes.
 (b) that the non-usual-maintainer releases should use a particular
     revision format: eg, hello-1.3-8 would become hello-1.3-8.1.

Ian.


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Package: modules
Version: 2.0.0-7

Depmod fails to create the right side in the dependency file
modules.dep.  I suggest a modification to a previous applied
fix to Bug#3781 in 2.0.0-6:  Close the file *after* the last
usage. 

mfg
Rolf Rossius

--- modules_2.0.0/depmod/load_obj.c.2.0.0-7	Sat Aug 10 16:14:29 1996
+++ modules_2.0.0/depmod/load_obj.c	Sat Aug 10 16:14:35 1996
@@ -278,20 +278,20 @@
 	/* Make sure each file is closed */
 	/* Michael Meskes 7/29/96 <meskes@debian.org> */
 	if (feof(fp) || ferror(fp)) {
 		fclose(fp);
 		return 1;
 	}
 
-	fclose(fp);
 	if (N_MAGIC((*aouthdr)) == OMAGIC)
 		errstr = load_aout(fp, aouthdr, syms, mod);
 	else if ((header.e_ident[0] == 0x7f) &&
 		 (strncmp((const char *)&header.e_ident[1], "ELF",3) == 0) &&
 		 (header.e_type == ET_REL))
 		errstr = load_elf(fp, &header, syms, mod);
+	fclose(fp);
 #endif /* USE_BFD */
 	if (errstr != (char *)0)
 		return 1;
 	return 0;
 }
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> Hmm. As for dpkg needing install-elisp, I'm not quite sure I buy that,
> because it would seem to argue that *any* install-* should be included
> in dpkg. Then again, there is only install-info which *is* in dpkg,
> and install-mime which is in mime-support which has it's own
> justification. There aren't any others...

I agree that "install-elisp" should be the responsibility of emacs.
Packages that want to use it should put an

	if [ -x /sbin/install-elisp ]
	then
		[...]
	fi

around the install/uninstall code.  This will allow packages to take
advantage of it if available, but not actually depend on emacs being
installed.  This is the line I've taken with mime-support.

There is a disadvantage that installing emacs after installing a
package ("p") that tries to call "install-elisp" will mean that
"p" is completely unknown to emacs until "p" is either reinstalled
or upgraded.  I personally don't see this as a problem as upgrades
happen fairly regularly.

Of course, the above problem only exists if "install-elisp" does some
setup work, as "install-mime" does.


> So, do these files go in /var/lib/emacs, /etc/emacs, or
> /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp, and why?  I can set it up and send changes
> to the emacs package maintainers this weekend if that gets worked
> out...

I'd vote for "/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp".  Why?  Because "/var/lib/emacs"
is for files that can't be on a read-only filesystem and "/etc/emacs" is
for user config files and the like.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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> I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
>
> Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?

It's a difficult call.  Quite often I get copies of mail simply because
I posted the msg being replied to, even though it is only relavent to the
group and not me specifically.

If it is relavent to me specifically (eg. relates to one of my packages),
then I like being copied because it means I won't miss it in the volume
of the list.

The best solution I can think of would be a daemon that monitors the lists
and if it sees an outgoing message that was copied to someone else, it sends
a very polite email saying that the user should be sure to copy the original
author _only_ if it specifically relates to him/her.  Making sure that such
a notice doesn't get mailed to a user more than once a month would also be
a good idea.

It's more work, but I think it would have the best results in the end.

                                        Brian
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This is my first draft of a quick document saying how to convert an
old to a new source package.

DO NOT DO ANYTHING YET except read this and suggest amendments.

Ian.

* Download the original source code from wherever it can be found and
  do any rearrangement required to make it look like the original tree
  of the Debian source.  Put it in <package>-<upstream-version>.orig/.

* Rename all files debian.* to debian/*.  There may be some exceptions
  to this, but this is a good start.

* Edit the debian/changelog - create or rename it if necessary.  Add a
  new revision to the top with the appropriate details.

* Edit/create debian/control:
 + Remove the Version field.  If it is generated unusually (not equal
   to the source version) you must use the -v option to
   dpkg-gencontrol (see below).  Section, Priority, Maintainer go
   above the line, most of the rest below.
 + Reorder the fields and add a blank line at an appropriate point,
   separating the source package fields from the binary package
   fields.
 + Add the Source field.
 + Add the Standards-Version field.
 + Change the Architecture field for each package to `any', `all' or
   whatever.  If there isn't an Architecture field add one.
 + If any other seddery or things used to happen to make the binary
   control files use dpkg-gencontrol's variable substitution features
   to achieve the same effect.  Use debian/substvars if you need to
   put unusally-generated information (apart from details of .deb
   files) in the .changes file too.

* Edit the debian/rules:
 + Remove the source and diff and any changes and dist targets.  These
   things now happen in a package-independent way and are not done by
   debian/rules.
 + Change the binary target to use dpkg-gencontrol to make the package
   control file(s).
 + Change occurrences of debian-tmp to debian/tmp.
 + Change occurrences of debian.{post,pre}{inst,rm} to debian/*.
 + Remove the version number make variable if there is one.

* Check that the debian/README is really the copyright file, and if so
  rename it to debian/copyright and edit debian/rules accordingly.  If
  it isn't then find debian/copyright and decide what to do with the
  README.

* Check for various other anachronisms:
 + Remove any Package_Revision, Package-Revision or Revision fields.
 + Rename Optional to Suggests, Recommended to Recommends.
 + Change /usr/doc/examples/<package> to /usr/doc/<package>/examples
   and /usr/doc/copyright/<package> to /usr/doc/<package>/copyright.

* Look everything over.

* Do a test build using dpkg-buildpackage -ur -uc -r<whatever>.  Check
  the permissions and locations of the results, and that the source
  build happened OK.  Test install the binary package(s) and test
  extract the source package(s).

* Sign the release: either re-run dpkg-buildpackage (this will rebuild
  the package entirely), or PGP-sign the .dsc, rebuild the .changes
  using dpkg-genchanges, and then PGP-sign the .changes.

--
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Subject: Re: New package standards - LAST CALL
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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: New package standards - LAST CALL"):
...
> I also think that when you make the new source package official, we
> should warn all maintainers of the base packages and ask them to convert
> their packages to the new standard. If they don't react in say 2 weeks,
> someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did during the
> transition from a.out to ELF.

Yes.  If a few people do a lot of packages it's probably quicker and
less error-prone, anyway, then having the maintainers do it
themselves.  On the other hand having the maintainers do it themselves
will get them to learn the ropes ...

...
> Well, one other idea. Since the original source and the patch are kept
> in the archive, would it be possible to look for an additional architecture
> dependant patch?  [...]

No.  Any architecture dependencies should be avoided; if they can't
they should be dealt with at build-time in the package itself, rather
than by making several versions of the package.

> [..]  It would be a tremendous advantage when porting to
> a new architecture - the porter need only supply the extra patch to the
> debian archive and it will "just work". Also, the patch will be in a public
> place so that the original maintainer can integrate the patch in the
> next version of the package.

The porter should make an architecture-independent patch (ie, one that
will work on any architecture) and then either:
 (a) add `.1' to the Debian revision and release a new source package
     with their binaries - they should send the patch to the original
     maintainer for inclusion, too;
or
 (a) send the patch to the main maintainer (or to maintonly@bugs) and
     wait for it to be included.

Ian.


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Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Name clash in prospective package "):
> Ian Jackson:
> > The point of not putting things in /usr/local isn't, as I see it, so
> 
> Well, I'm not in full agreement, but it's not important enough.

Fair enough.

> > I propose the following resolution:
> I can live with the what you propose.

Good.  I've added the section below.

Ian.

<sect1><tt>/usr/local</> - for the use of the system administrator
<p>

As mandated by the FSSTND no package should place any files in
<tt>/usr/local</>, either by putting them in the filesystem archive to
be unpacked by <prgn/dpkg/ or by manipulating them in their maintainer
scripts.
<p>

Every package that searches a number of directories or files for
something (for example, looking for shared libraries in <tt>/lib</> or
<tt>/usr/lib</>) should search an appropriate directory in
<tt>/usr/local</> too.
<p>

In order that the system administrator may know where to place
additional files a package should create an empty directory in the
appropriate place in <tt>/usr/local</> by supplying it in the
filesystem archive for unpacking by <prgn/dpkg/.  The
<tt>/usr/local</> directory itself and all the subdirectories created
by the package should have permissions 2775 (group-writeable and
set-group-id) and be owned by <tt/root.staff/.
<p>

In the future it will be possible to tell <prgn/dpkg/ not to unpack
files matching certain patterns, so that system administrators who do
not wish these directories in <tt>/usr/local</> do not need to have
them.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail"):
...
> That's what I do. I even run sendmail -bi if newaliases is not found.
> But I wanted to be sure that all mail packages do provide the same
> user way of defining aliases, even if they manage them differently after
> that.

I'll specify in the mail processing section of the polcy manual:
 <tt>/etc/aliases</> is the source file for the system mail aliases
 (e.g.  postmaster, usenet, etc.) - it is the one which the sysadmin
 and postinst scripts may edit.  After <tt>/etc/aliases</> is edited
 the program or human editing it must call <prgn/newaliases/.  All MTA
 packages should come with a <prgn/newaliases/ program, even if it does
 nothing, but older MTA packages do not do this so programs should not
 fail if <prgn/newaliases/ cannot be found.
 <p>

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("CC's on this mailing list"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
>  > I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
>  > not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
>  > 
>  > Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?
> 
> It would be nice also to not have long messages fully quoted :-(

Right, this is going into the policy manual.

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?"):
...
> But the message is really misleading... It would ne nice if Gdb checked
> wether the prog arg was a core first, and in this case tell that's the
> case and remind usage. (Not that I ask that it does that: I should have
> read the manual page, of course.)

You might also see my bug report, #3515.

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Bug#4093: start-stop-daemon fails to kill process"):
> Maybe should it kill the process whose pid is in the pidfile, even if
> it does not think the executable is running?
> 
> Here is an example of the problem:
> 
> marin66# /etc/init.d/apache stop
> no /usr/sbin/apache found; none killed.
> marin67# cat /var/run/apache/apache.pid 
> 12707
> marin68# ps -ax|grep 12707
> 12707  ?  S    0:00 /usr/sbin/apache 
> 20378  p9 S    0:00 grep 12707 

Are you using a new apache package ?  On my system apache installs
itself as /usr/sbin/apache-httpd.

In any case, could you check to see what
 ls -ali /proc/12707/exe
 ls -aliL /proc/12707/exe
shows and what
 ls -ali /usr/sbin/apache
shows ?

Thanks,
Ian.


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Rob Browning writes:
> Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi> writes:
> 
> > I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches.
> > We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something
> > that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with
> > the time should find and package one. It should be usable from the
> > command line so that it can easily be integrated into Debiandoc.
> 
> It'd be nice to have something like altavista, that could generate a
> page containing a (heirarchical) list of the references found.
> 

The search program ht://Dig (which has an admittedly odd name) comes with the
GNU general public license.  Its home page is:
         http://htdig.sdsu.edu/

Also, there's been a Javascript on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi 
that uses the Altavista search engine to search only your own site.  
(Seems like exploiting rather than excluding robots.)

Regards,
Susan Kleinmann



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After removing smail, cron keeps trying and failing to execute /usr/lib/smail/checkerr
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Proposed fix:  check for existence of /etc/cron.daily/smail before running.

- --
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[ I sent this to Lars, but then thought perhaps the whole list might
  be interested.  Sorry for the duplicate mail, Lars! ]

> Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi> writes:
> 
> > I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches.
> > We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something
> > that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with
> > the time should find and package one. It should be usable from the
> > command line so that it can easily be integrated into Debiandoc.
> 
> It'd be nice to have something like altavista, that could generate a
> page containing a (heirarchical) list of the references found.

I've been thinking about what you said regarding search engines for
"debiandoc".  As I understand it, this is to be a debian package, is it
not?

Debian has been a great help in my company and we'd like to give something
back, so how about this...

We'll make a version of Ferret that you can include and redistribute with
your package completely freely.  It will be, however, a query-only version.
We'd then licence to you (free, of course) a full version from which you
could generate the index that went in the package.

What do you think of this idea?

An alternative would be to have your package depend on the evaluation
version of ferret that exists in the distribution, but I don't think this
is a good idea.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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(NB: This message is crossposted.  Mind your followups.)

I felt like linuxdoc-sgml was unsuitable for me because:
 * It has serious problems with metacharacter handling/escaping.
 * The DTD doesn't express what was supported by the backends, and
   is generally full of leftover gunk.
 * The formatting of certain constructs - especially cross-references
   and examples - by several of the backends is poor.
 * It doesn't have all the features I wanted.
 * It has features I don't want and don't want to bother maintaining.
 * Its backends generate their output through too many or IMO the
   wrong intermediate stages (eg, plain text via groff or PostScript
   via LaTeX).

So I wrote this.  It's small but it does what it claims to do -
translate documents in its DTD into HTML, plain text (overstruck or
not) and PostScript (via Lout).  Info is not supported at the moment.

I've marked it for placement in project/experimental on the Debian
archive because it's in the new Debian source package format which
hasn't been agreed on yet, not because it's particularly unstable.
(Non-Debian users can just untar and build it.)

You need `sp' (aka nsgmls) as that's the SGML parser it expects, and
SGMLsp (the Perl modules for SGML backends) and Perl5 of course.  It
has one dependency on linuxdoc-sgml, due to the file
/usr/lib/linuxdoc-sgml/rep/latin1/general (which is a list of
character entities).

There is no documentation for the formatter itself yet, but the DTD
contains only things that are supported by the backends and should be
fairly clear.  I'll write a manual for it when I have a free hour or
two.

The Debian change information for the package is below.  It should
appear in project/experimental on the Debian sites shortly.

I'm unlikely to be able to help with requests to add features to it,
because I'm very busy.  However, if you do something sensible to the
DTD _and_ support it in _all_ the backends I might look favourably on
a patch.  Discussing it somewhere if you plan to do this would
probably be a good idea.  On the linuxdoc-sgml list, perhaps, unless
people will mind ?

Because the DTD is so small - 87 lines - I've included that too.

Ian.

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Changes: 
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    Copyright 1996 Ian Jackson
    This is free software.  You may distribute it under the terms of
    the GNU General Public Licence, version 2 or at your option any
    later version.

    This DTD was inspired by linuxdoc.dtd which was based on QWERTZ.
    Contributors to linuxdoc.dtd include Matt Welsh, Greg Hankins,
    Eric Raymond, Marc Baudoin, Tristan Debeaupuis and Tom Gordon.
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<!element debiandoc o o (book)>

<!entity % emph "em|var|prgn|tt|qref">
<!entity % xref "ref|manref|email|ftpsite|ftppath">
<!entity % list "list|enumlist|taglist">
<!entity % inline "(#pcdata|%emph|%xref|footnote)+">
<!entity % inpara "((%inline)|(%list)|example)+">
<!entity % paras "(p+)">
<!entity % sect "heading,(%paras)?">

<!element titlepag o o (title,author+,version?,abstract?,copyright?)>
<!element title - o (%inline)>
<!element author - o (name,email)>
<!element name o o (%inline) -(email)>
<!element email o o (#pcdata)>
<!element version - o (#pcdata|date)+>
<!element date - o empty>
<!element abstract - o (%inpara)>
<!element copyright - o (copyrightsummary,p*)>
<!element copyrightsummary o o (%inpara)>

<!element toc - o empty>
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<!element chapt - o ((%sect),sect*)>
<!element sect - o ((%sect),sect1*)>
<!element sect1 - o ((%sect),sect2*)>
<!element sect2 - o ((%sect),sect3*)>
<!element sect3 - o ((%sect),sect4*)>
<!element sect4 - o (%sect)>
<!attlist chapt id cdata #implied>
<!attlist sect id cdata #implied>
<!attlist sect1 id cdata #implied>
<!attlist sect2 id cdata #implied>
<!attlist sect3 id cdata #implied>
<!attlist sect4 id cdata #implied>

<!element footnote - - (%paras)>

<!element p o o (%inpara)>

<!element em - - (%inline)     -- emphasis -->
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<!element prgn - - (%inline)   -- (short) name of a program, command, &c -->
<!element tt - - (%inline)     -- code and filename fragements -->
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<!element qref - - (%inline)>
<!attlist qref id cdata #required>

<!element example - - (%inline) -(tt|prgn|em|%xref)>

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<!element manref - o empty>
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<!element ref - o empty>
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<!element ftpsite - - (#pcdata)>
<!element ftppath - - (#pcdata)>

<!entity % general-chars system>
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   * Old guidelines.info and text files in /usr/doc/dpkg removed.
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Oops, the first time I forgot to remove the call to install-info for
the guidelines from the postinst.  This would be the one time I forget
to do a test-install ...

I've released a new 1.3.3 and replaced the old one in the upload
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   * debian-changelog-mode urgencies except HIGH lowercase by default.
   * debian-changelog-mode displays keymap in doc string and so mode help.
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   * More maintainers' PGP keys.
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   * Remove built changelog parsers with `clean' target in source.
Files: 
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> But the message is really misleading... It would ne nice if Gdb checked
> wether the prog arg was a core first, and in this case tell that's the

This is hard -- on many architectures, core files are of the same
format as executables, so the distinctions are subtle.


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Package: netstd

I originally posted this as a question to debian-users, but did no
receive any responses.  My apologies if this problem is a result my
own ignorance -- if so, it should be documented in talk.1.

1. Both ytalk and talk work talking on the same machine.
2. Neither ytalk nor talk will talk to other machines.
3. talk just sits (no talk request is transmitted), ytalk prints an

   find_daemon: recv() failed
   Connection refused

   sendit: recv() failed
   Connection refused

   sendit: recv() failed
   Connection refused

   What a helpful error message.

4. mesg has been set to `y', so that's not it.
5. I can receive talk requests from other machines, but cannot accept
   them.
6. The machines I am trying to talk to are an OSF/1 2.1 machine,
   a Solaris 2.4 machine, and a Linux box running RedHat 3.0.  The
   RedHat box also has the same problem.

I'm aware of the various flavors of talk, but ytalk should be able to
talk to most of them.  Actually, Linux `talk' should be able to talk
to all common flavors of talk.

I'm connected to the internet via PPP with dynamic addressing, and I
am using IP forwarding and masquerading (so there is also a local
ethernet).  Kernel version 2.0.10.


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indent-1.9.1-15 fixes this bug.

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Steve Greenland wrote:
> indent-1.9.1-15 fixes this bug.

Repeat after me: 3532-*done* 3532-*done* 3532-*done*

Sorry about that....

Steve Greenland


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Marek Michalkiewicz wrote:
> Package: nvi
> Version: 1.34-13
> 
> Linux console:
> [End key doesn't work, Home works fine]
> 
> xterm:
> [Neither works]
> 
> It could be a terminfo problem as well, I don't know.

I think it's terminfo. Nvi is looking at the terminfo
capabilities khome and kll for Home and End, respectively,
which are then mapped into '^' and '$'.

For TERM=linux, khome is correct and kll isn't defined.
For TERM=xterm, the khome in terminfo is not the same
as the keystroke generated in the xterm: I don't know
which is correct. Again, kll isn't defined.

I'm reassigning this to ncurses-bin.

Steve Greenland

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"Brian C. White":
> [ I sent this to Lars, but then thought perhaps the whole list might
>   be interested.  Sorry for the duplicate mail, Lars! ]

In the same vein, I append my response.

> What do you think of this idea?

Thanks for the offer, but alas, it's not workable -- the index needs to be
rebuilt for each system separately, since the set of documents is different
on each system, and Debiandoc is supposed to support locally installed
documentation as well.

I will, however, make debiandoc and ferret work together, if it isn't
too much work. From my experiments with glimpse a long time ago, it
can index arbitrary directories or files, and outputs a list of filenames
as the result of the search. If ferret can do that, then I'll add support
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Package: fvwm2
Version: 2.0.42-BETA-0

Here's a patch:
####
--- fvwm2.1x.orig	Sun Apr 21 08:25:04 1996
+++ fvwm2.1x	Sun Aug 11 17:48:42 1996
@@ -1295,7 +1295,7 @@
 
 
 .IP "WindowsDesk \fInew_desk\fP"
-Moves the selected window the the desktop specified as \fInew_desk\fP.
+Moves the selected window to the desktop specified as \fInew_desk\fP.
 
 
 .IP "XORvalue \fInumber\fP"
####
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Could it be put in paths.h as soon as possible now that it appears we'll
use it?

Yves.


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Ian Jackson writes:
 > Also I propose to mandate in the policy manual that packages which use
 > /opt should provide appropriate links or files in
 > /opt/{bin,lib,man,include,info,doc} and that packages which search
 > paths must look in /opt too.  Comments ?  (And see the recent
 > FSSTND/FHS work on /opt - it's deliberately very vague.)

Should we put /opt/bin before or after /usr/bin by default? (I'd suggest
before).

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Package: xpostitplus
Version: 2.2-1

When the new xpostitplus starts, none of the previous notes appear. What's
bad is that if one creates a new note and saves it, it silently replaces
a previous note :-(

It would be nice if the postint finded all existing .postitnotes directories
and updated their contents so that they are recognized by the new xpostitplus
(it's apparently just the ident line that must be changed), or rename these
directories to .postitnotes-old and tell that new notes should be made by
copying the contents of these ones. (The first solution would really be
nice...)

Yves.


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Package: pixmap
Version: 2.6pl1-2

To reproduce:
1. Start pixmap from xterm.
2. From the File menu, choose Load.
3. Type "/usr/include/X11/pixmaps/3dpaint.xpm".
4. Click Okay.
5. Core dumped :(

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Ian Jackson writes:
 > Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
 > ...
 > > I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the
 > > list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address
 > > and Cc: deleted.
 > > 
 > > This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad idea) to
 > > put this in the debian list server?
 > 
 > This makes it hard in some mailers to reply to just the poster.

Then actually it makes it hard in these mailes to reply to just the
list. Since the bulk of the list is made of public discussions done
by replying to it, this may be a good reason to have it be the default.
After all, if you want to just reply to the author, you have to do
something more complicated once, and after that you reply to him normally
during the private discussion. With the actual scheme, the complicated
thing must be done each time you want to make a public answer.

Yves.


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You (Yves Arrouye) wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
>  > Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
>  > ...
>  > > I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the
>  > > list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address
>  > > and Cc: deleted.
>  > > 
>  > > This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad idea) to
>  > > put this in the debian list server?
>  > 
>  > This makes it hard in some mailers to reply to just the poster.
> 
> Then actually it makes it hard in these mailes to reply to just the
> list. Since the bulk of the list is made of public discussions done
> by replying to it, this may be a good reason to have it be the default.
> After all, if you want to just reply to the author, you have to do
> something more complicated once, and after that you reply to him normally
> during the private discussion. With the actual scheme, the complicated
> thing must be done each time you want to make a public answer.

That's how I feel too, but you said it better than I could.

Mike.
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Package: sp
Version: 1.1-1

Sp can install support files for LaTeX, but has some problems with that:

  1. If LaTeX is not under /usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex, nothing happens. I
     think $TEXMF should be test too, having something like:

	: ${TEXMF:=/usr/lib/texmf}
	if [ -d $TEXMF/tex/latex ]
	then
	    ...

  2. If LaTeX is found but linuxdoc-sgml has not been installed, it
     will failed to copy /usr/lib/linuxdoc-sgml/linuxdoc-sgml.sty.

  3. Because sp can be installed at anytime (it doesn't depends on
     linuxdoc-sgml or latex), I think this LaTeX installation should
     be put in an /usr/sbin/spconfig script run by the postinst script.
     If LaTeX or linuxdoc-sgml are not installed, it would be nice to
     get a message saying that whenever the two are installed the admin
     should run spconfig to get the sp support for LaTeX.

Yves.


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Yves Arrouye:
> Then actually it makes it hard in these mailes to reply to just the
> list. 

It's easy to delete addresses, difficult to copy them.

Whether public or private replies are more common depends on the writer,
not the list. I make a fair number of private answers.

Checking your To and Cc is just the same as checking your Newsgroups line.
You _must_ do it, whether there is a Reply-to or not. Basic courtesy and
self-preservation.

I fear there is no objectively best answer for this problem. Perhaps
mail needs a Followup-to header.

I've been on lists that have a Reply-to to the list. It's horrible enough
that it actually deters me from replying at all.

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Yves Arrouye:
> It would be nice if the postint finded all existing .postitnotes directories
> and updated their contents so that they are recognized by the new xpostitplus

This is dangerous. There might be uses that use the old version still,
possibly one installed outside dpkg's domain.

Only under _very_ extreme circumstances should users' files be touched
like this. It always causes trouble.

A better solution would be to have the new program convert the notes the
first time it is run.

The best solution would be to change the program to use a different directory
name (.postitplusnotes, perhaps), and have a separate conversion program
to be run manually by the user. This way, the user can go back to using the
old version without having to lose his data.

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Package: slrn
Version: 0.8.8.4-1

This version of slrn appears to depend on a version of slang-lib that's
not been packaged yet. slang-lib_0.99.23-1 is the newest version of slang
I can find as a .deb on ftp.debian.org.

Am I missing something?

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Date: 09 Aug 96 23:03 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: David Engel <david@ods.com>
Source: tcl75
Version: 7.5p1-1
Binary:  tcl75 tcl75-dev
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 tcl75: The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.5 - Run-Time Package.
 -  TCL is a powerful, easy to use, interpreted scripting language.
 tcl75-dev: The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.5 - Development Package.
 -  TCL is a powerful, easy to use, interpreted scripting language.
Changes: 
 Updated to new upstream version.
 .
 Added support for multiple architectures and new packaging standards
 (Bug#3884).
Files:
 429d85c682b3656d4c610e1e516752ad  850312  devel  -  tcl75_7.5p1-1.tar.gz
 a71fe1e419d96f0d96313b8b29371e2f  3094  devel  -  tcl75_7.5p1-1.diff.gz
 46ad205b9c6d26cd9ea1408ba1c10707  182660  devel  optional  tcl75_7.5p1-1_i386.deb
 eea506b2ee9505c32d2bd55771444e16  311872  devel  optional  tcl75-dev_7.5p1-1_i386.deb

Date: 10 Aug 96 03:17 UT
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: David Engel <david@ods.com>
Source: tk41
Version: 4.1p1-1
Binary:  tk41 tk41-dev
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 tk41: The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Run-Time Package.
 -  Tk is an X11 toolkit that provides the Motif look and feel and is 
 -  implemented using the Tcl scripting language.
 tk41-dev: The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Development Package.
 -  Tk is an X11 toolkit that provides the Motif look and feel and is 
 -  implemented using the Tcl scripting language.
Changes: 
 Updated to new upstream version.
 .
 Added support for multiple architectures and new packaging standards.
Files:
 7e793896277919b815cd24b04f3d7a61  1613496  devel  -  tk41_4.1p1-1.tar.gz
 98a37807b4f2d1d21996d68322fb7834  3334  devel  -  tk41_4.1p1-1.diff.gz
 679335e6ff46d13c09f61784048d00cd  522546  devel  optional  tk41_4.1p1-1_i386.deb
 6dd2844daed51ce9e66822ee9173fa03  509270  devel  optional  tk41-dev_4.1p1-1_i386.deb

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david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081


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Subject: New SNMP Package
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Date: 11 Aug 96 04:58 UT
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Source: snmp
Version: 3.1-1
Binary:  snmp
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 snmp: CMU SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Agent and Apps.
 -  The CMU SNMP agent allows remote monitoring of various network and
 -  system information.  The CMU SNMP applications allow querying the CMU
 -  and other SNMP agents.
Changes: 
 Updated to new upstream version (Bug#4070).
 .
 Added support for multiple architectures and new packaging standards
 (Bug#3882).
 .
 Use a slightly more restricted MIB view by default (Bug#3108).
 .
 Install parse.h and snmp_client.h.
Files:
 691448f0b9f9320e742f8c660f322412  192881  net  -  snmp_3.1-1.tar.gz
 0e20360217118863573295a5f22b8b17  4908  net  -  snmp_3.1-1.diff.gz
 a689ab7a62c9f0de3434a121be4c15ad  114282  net  extra  snmp_3.1-1_i386.deb

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Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> Package: snmp
> Version: 2.1.2l4-1
> 
> The hrProcessorLoad MIB variable is not computed correctly in snmp
> 2.1.2l4: the value returned is max(loadavg*100, 100).  Under linux, we
> can compute the correct value by regurarly polling the idle jiffies
> counter available in /proc/stat.  The patch below adds a signal
> handler to correctly keep track of the cpu load over the last minute.

I've forwarded your report on to the upstream maintainers to get their
opinion.

David
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Could it be possible to ask for bug reports by email by number or package
name? This would be nice and serve two purposes:

  - when someone says "it's related to bug #xxx", look for that bug;
  - when taking over a package, getting a list of the bugs reported
    for that package.

In both cases, it would be nice to be able to filter closed and open
bug reports.

Yves.


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Brian C. White writes:
 > > I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
 > > not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
 > >
 > > Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?
 > 
 > If it is relavent to me specifically (eg. relates to one of my packages),
 > then I like being copied because it means I won't miss it in the volume
 > of the list.

Is it because you filter to mail folders depending on the To: field (the
only reason I see that would make the messages appear differently)? In
this case, can't you just use your package names as a selection criterion
for which messages are more important for you?

Yves.


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Thanks.
YA.


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Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-6

Ghostview should read the bounding box of a document in any case,
regardless of wether it is an EPSF file or not. If no such box is
provided, then it can default to a given media.
  It should also temporarily change the media when the bounding box of
a page is not the same as the default bounding box.

In addition, ghostview should look at the %%DocumentMedia comment to
get the page size.

It should certainly, for the user's pleasure, parse %%BeginPaperSize
comments that are used sometimes, but also recognize

	%%BeginFeature: *PageSize <SomePageSize>

and

	%%IncludeFeature: *PageSize <SomePageSize>

which ask for a given page size.

I think it would be nice too to have a 'Actual' media in the list that
is bound to the bbox of the document currently viewed, so that:

  - if I preview a document with a specific bbox, I don't think it is
    letter as indicated by the Media menu;

  - if I force A4 to see how it would look, I can go back to the
    normal size without having to reread the document.

Yves.


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I hope this will be a correct package now, and that I won't have any change
to do to it (well, there's always that bug...). Seriously, I tested it
with compress sources from three different packages without problems.

Yves.

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Date: 11 Aug 96 20:13 UT
Format: 1.6
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Source: compress-package
Version: 1.3-1
Binary:  compress-package
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 compress-package: fileset to build Debian compress packages
Changes:
 * The package is now in the contrib section. (Fixes bug #4079.)
 * make-cpkg now supports the specification of the makefile to use
   and of the build, install and clean targets in the local
   Makefile.
 * Completed documentation for make-cpkg, including a section
   describing the targets.
 * Remove any gzip or gunzip command eventually installed by the
   package (just in case...)
 * Generate a base package xxx without any of the historic commands
   provided by gzip, and eventually generate a xxx-historic package
   with these commands. (Fixes bug #4057.)
 * If the base package xxx does provide more than the compress
   command, generate a replacement package xxx-basic with only
   the compress command.
 * Check if a compress command has been installed before building
   the package.
 * Packages containing a compress command are in section non-free,
   historic packages go in contrib.
 * Edit the compress.1 manual page to warn that only compress
   actually acts as documented, when necessary.
 * If the package name would have been 'compress', change it to
   'bsd-compress' so that an eventual 'bsd-compress-historic'
   would depend on 'bsd-compress' and not on the virtual compress
   package.
Files:
 4fba7522fd29ef6004b0d8bf21a202f7  13756  contrib  -  compress-package_1.3-1.tar.gz
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Please add me as a supporter of Lar's suggestion for xpostitplus (make the
xpostit program intelligent enough to read its old format...). Then we
can assume that if I started the better version I don't want to read
notes using the older one.

Yves.


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On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Joey Hess wrote:

> Package: slrn
> Version: 0.8.8.4-1
> 
> This version of slrn appears to depend on a version of slang-lib that's
> not been packaged yet. slang-lib_0.99.23-1 is the newest version of slang
> I can find as a .deb on ftp.debian.org.
> 
> Am I missing something?

Yeah, just like a lot of ppl, we're missing slang-lib0931.deb. It was
there when I built slrn, I think I got it from Incoming on master.
However, it seems like it never made it into unstable or whatever. I have
slrn-0.8.8.4 running at my system very smoothly, and am very happy with it
(though I did discover one very minor bug :). However, I don't have the
deb-file of slan-lib0931 anymore.

I think slrn-0.8.8.4 depends on a version of libslang greater then
0.99.23, but am not sure. Maybe I should try to repackage with it and see
if it works.

Maarten

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Package: xterm-color
Version: 3.1.2-4

Debian's slrn package comes with a debian.README that says:

>If you want to run slrn in an xterm, slrn may say that your display
>"isn't powerfull enough". This is not true, it just dosn't know how
>to handle xterm. You may set the TERMCAP variable with this command:
>(this is also true for a color-xterm, but rxvt works OK)
>
>export TERMCAP='vs|xterm|xterm-24|xterms|vs100|xterm terminal emulator (X Window System):\
[rest of termcap entry snipped]

What I've found is that an easier solution is just to unset the TERMCAP
variable entirely, and then slrn runs with no problems. It looks like the
$TERMCAP in an xterm gets set to "co#80:li#25:", and S-lang based programs
interprate this as a very dumb terminal.

Suggested fix: around line 3714 of main.c, xterm-color sets the TERMCAP
variable if USE_SYSV_ENVVARS is defined. I suggest you undefine
USE_SYSV_ENVVARS.

-- 
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Package: mime-support
Version: 2.0-1

mime-rfc-1542.txt.gz and mime-install.HOWTO.gz are installed into
/usr/doc, rather than into /usr/doc/mime-support.

Susan Kleinmann


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On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Emilio Lopes wrote:

> >>>>> "CS" == Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> wrote:
> 
> CS> I'd like to see a bourne-like shell with perl-like regexp stuff
> CS> (mainly sed & grep) built in - i'd switch to that in a flash.
> 
> People may say it's called ksh93. IMHO, it may seem somewhat
> interesting, but I really don't like it. Look likes tcl... :-)

zsh seems to have some of these features.

see http://www.mal.com/zsh/ for full details, but this looks useful:

        and a substitution modifier: 

        % echo $name:s/foo/bar/
        bar.c
        % ls
        foo.c    foo.h    foo.o    foo.pro
        % for i in foo.*; mv $i $i:s/foo/bar/
        % ls
        bar.c    bar.h    bar.o    bar.pro


it's only simple substitution, though.  no regexp.

        (siva-cas) ~$ zsh
        % fred=xyz.abc.zzz
        % echo $fred
        xyz.abc.zzz

lets try a regexp subsitution ala sed:
        % echo $fred:s/\(...\).\(...\).\(...\)/\3\2\1/
        xyz.abc.zzz
ok.  that obviously doesn't work.  lets try a different format:
        % echo $fred:s/(...).(...).(...)/\3\2\1/
        xyz.abc.zzz
nope. 


you can string together multiple substitions, though:
        % echo $fred:s/abc/111/                       
        xyz.111.zzz
        % echo $fred:s/abc/111/:s/xyz/222/
        222.111.zzz
        % echo $fred:s/abc/111/:s/xyz/222/:s/zzz/333/
        222.111.333


zsh looks like it's got nice stuff out of sh/bash, ksh, and csh.

looks useful, but it doesn't get eliminate the need to fork sed and
grep.

hmmm...the substitution facility could be useful for standardising
responses in a case statement:

read yesno
case $yesno:l:s/yes/y/:s/no/n/ in
  y) do_yes ;; 
  n) do_no ;;
  *) do_error ;;
esac




it's probably too non-standard to use for debian.{pre,post}{rm,inst} scripts
but i might switch to it for my personal use.




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Grr, I screwed up the SGML entity catalogue handling so the last
version wouldn't work at all unless you happened to be in a directory
with a few particular files.

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Description: 
 debiandoc-sgml - Documentation formatting for Debian manuals
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 .
   * Converters work again.  Oops.
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I wrote:
> This is my first draft of a quick document saying how to convert an
> old to a new source package.
> 
> DO NOT DO ANYTHING YET except read this and suggest amendments.

I've thought of something to add to this list:
 * Check that the description is well-formatted and meaningful and
   helpful to people wanting to know whether to install a package.

Should I put all of this in an appendix to the policy manual ?

Ian.


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Brian C. White writes ("Re: Emacs per-package startup files"):
...
> [someone:]
> > So, do these files go in /var/lib/emacs, /etc/emacs, or
> > /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp, and why?  I can set it up and send changes
> > to the emacs package maintainers this weekend if that gets worked
> > out...
> 
> I'd vote for "/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp".  Why?  Because "/var/lib/emacs"
> is for files that can't be on a read-only filesystem and "/etc/emacs" is
> for user config files and the like.

/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp is for something entirely different.  It's
for the main lisp files (modes or whatever) that a package installs.

/var/lib is obviously wrong, as the files aren't changed in normal
operation.

The files need to be conffiles so that the sysadmin can modify their
behaviour, remove them, &c, and have their changes respected.  So it
needs to be in /etc.

Ian.


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'Christoph Lameter wrote:'
>
>A wish because of the heavy usage of gzipped files under debian:
>
>- Add functionality for less to automatically recognize a gzipped file
>and view it correctly without having to resort to zless.

I have code for that (or you can use most):

First set some environment variables in .bash_profile or /etc/profile:
export LESSCLOSE="lessclose.sh %s %s" LESSOPEN="lessopen.sh %s"

Then somewhere in $PATH put lessclose.sh and lessopen.sh:
$ cat /usr/local/bin/lessclose.sh 
#!/bin/sh

rm $2
$ cat /usr/local/bin/lessopen.sh 
#!/bin/sh

# When the environment variable LESSOPEN is set to refer to this file
# (e.g., LESSOPEN="lessopen.sh %s"), one can do several interesting
# things with pipes (see less(1) for details).  Namely,
# 1. view any gzipped or compressed file(s) anywhere in the filesystem with
#    the simple command "less filename(s)".  And you can use less' multiple
#    file searching and bookmark facilities on the gzipped files!
# 2. view a list of compressed and uncompressed files from the same
#    command prompt (using all of less' multiple file features).
# 3. "zcat file.gz | less" still works.
 
if [ $1 != "-" ]; then  # $1 = "-" when we are reading standard input
   gzip -t $1 &> /dev/null
   if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then # Is it compressed?
      zcat $1 > /tmp/$$.`basename $1`  # Use basename for files in
      echo /tmp/$$.`basename $1`       #   other directories
   fi
fi
exit 0

-- 
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Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: des encryption.. "):
> Ian Jackson writes:
>  > Also I propose to mandate in the policy manual that packages which use
>  > /opt should provide appropriate links or files in
>  > /opt/{bin,lib,man,include,info,doc} and that packages which search
>  > paths must look in /opt too.  Comments ?  (And see the recent
>  > FSSTND/FHS work on /opt - it's deliberately very vague.)
> 
> Should we put /opt/bin before or after /usr/bin by default? (I'd suggest
> before).

After, because it will be larger, and because it makes it harder for
an /opt package to accidentally cause problems ?

The sysadmin can always use /usr/local to change which one is run if
they want some different arrangement locally.

Ian.


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Package: emacs
Version: 19.29-3

My /var/lib/emacs/lock directory contains many old lock files.

I'm quite happy to believe that the occasional leftover lock is
unavoidable, but steps should be taken to clean them up.

Furthermore, all the pathnames for the lockfiles are world-readable.
This is not what one would expect, and confidential information is not
infrequently present in filenames.  The best solution might be to put
the filename or other information about the file through a
cryptographically strong one-way function (eg SHA-1 or MD5) and only
include the filename in the file itself (which should be readable
only by owner).

I don't think all the files should be world-writeable, either.

Ian.


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From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>

> I'm just posting here on what's really an irrelevant topic to say that
> I think it's a very good thing that someone is challenging Microsoft.

The terms of the suit require MS to give _Caldera_ details of APIs. Not
the general public, just Caldera. MS can still keep them under non-disclosure,
and Caldera would have to honor the terms of an NDA approved by the court.

So, I'm not sure this does a thing for people who write free software.

	Bruce


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first of all, 19.29 is way old -- 19.31 is the current package, and
19.32 is imminent. 

Second, the lock file names *have* to be world visible, in order for
locking to actually work among users... hmm, your suggestion of a
one-way hash make sense, I'll pass it upstream and see if it goes
anywhere (xemacs has built in md5 support, but emacs19 doesn't.)
Oddly enough, if you don't have long filename support, emacs uses a
CRC to create a short-enough hash of the filename...

I guess they don't need to be world writable either -- world readable
would suffice (the files contain the pid, and that's needed to
determine if the ostensibly locking process is still around...)

If you have particular security concerns, you could also set
EMACSLOCKDIR in your environment (setting it to something nonexistent
should defeat locking altogether; not sure though. It *won't* fall
back to the compiled in value.)


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first of all, 19.29 is way old -- 19.31 is the current package, and
19.32 is imminent. 

Second, the lock file names *have* to be world visible, in order for
locking to actually work among users... hmm, your suggestion of a
one-way hash make sense, I'll pass it upstream and see if it goes
anywhere (xemacs has built in md5 support, but emacs19 doesn't.)
Oddly enough, if you don't have long filename support, emacs uses a
CRC to create a short-enough hash of the filename...

I guess they don't need to be world writable either -- world readable
would suffice (the files contain the pid, and that's needed to
determine if the ostensibly locking process is still around...)

If you have particular security concerns, you could also set
EMACSLOCKDIR in your environment (setting it to something nonexistent
should defeat locking altogether; not sure though. It *won't* fall
back to the compiled in value.)


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> I lost this argument, chiefly through a combination of poor politics
> on my part

Ian,

Don't feel bad that you're not good at politics yet - with my 39th
birthday approaching I'm only just beginning to understand it. If you
feel you've lost arguments through poor politics rather than through
any fault in your logic, it's probably appropriate for us to put
someone on the FHS who can maintain the necessary _distance_ required
for this sort of argument. We value your services tremendously, and
would be happy to see you spend more time on your thesis, dpkg/dselect,
etc.

> ...with which I have very strong disagreements:
>  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.
>  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
>  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.
>  * A new directory /usr/libexec is created to hold command binaries
>   used only internally by programs - these are to be moved from
>   /usr/lib and in some cases /usr/sbin.  Oddly there is no
>   corresponding /libexec directory.

I'd be inclined to live with it. We can do the usual symbolic link
hacks for Debian 1.2 to help ease the transition, and remove them for
1.3 . You can sum up anything else you disagree with for us on
debian-devel. I will hear argument and set Debian's position on the
standard. At the very worst, we would make a partial acceptance and
produce a compliance statement that details any areas in which we
depart from the standard.

Thanks for working on this. I'm sorry, I didn't know you had such a
depth of emotional involvement in it.

	Bruce Perens
	Debian Project Leader


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> The thing is that I think we need to be able to distribute other
> [documentation] end-products [than HTML].
> HTML is bad for printing, for example, and not ideal
> if you have a slow machine. Choice is a good thing.

Do you have a proposal? I'm not trying to exclude other formats,
but I'm trying to arrive at a common denominator, even if it
has its detriments.

I'm not sure I agree with the slow machine part. That seems to be
browser-specific.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Miquel:
> If they don't react [to the request to convert to the new source package]
> in say 2 weeks, someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did
> during the transition from a.out to ELF.

Thanks for volunteering! Please make sure to merge the multi-architecture
patches while you do that.

> would it be possible to look for an additional architecture
> dependant patch? For example, if you have
> bash-1.14.6-1.dsc
> bash-1.14.6-1.EXTRA.alpha.diff.gz

I strongly prefer only one patch per package. I'd prefer the
architecture-specific stuff to be in the one main patch, with ifdefs, etc.
if necessary. One reason is that there is rarely a patch to user code
that is necessary for only _one_ architecture. Either it's word-size,
or endian-ness, or something else that is going to be necessary for
ultra-sparc as well as alpha, etc.

A second reason is that it's nice for the packager to be able to see all
of the Debian changes at once. Otherwise, it would be too easy to make
incompatible changes that are only caught when we go to build on the
architecture that has its own patches.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Ian Jackson:
> Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or
> issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as
> described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian
> policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.3.x, will become official.

I delegate fiat power to you for the issue of the source package format.
Make it final when you feel it's ready.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: xosview
Version: 1.3.2-6

The program doesn't access the directories listed in
XUSERFILESEARCHPATH but it does read the default file
in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.


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Ian Jackson writes:
> The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
> the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
>  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.
>  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
>  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.

I don't like either of these and IMO we shouldn't change. At least not in
the near future.

>  * A new directory /usr/libexec is created to hold command binaries
>   used only internally by programs - these are to be moved from
>   /usr/lib and in some cases /usr/sbin.  Oddly there is no
>   corresponding /libexec directory.

Sounds like a good idea for me. Since you once lobbied for this dir, why
don't you like it now?

> The two good changes that I see are (and they are not minor):
>  * /usr/share exists and is defined.
>  * /opt exists and is defined.

Sounds okay, too. 

Couldn't we make only the changes we like?

Michael

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Good morning Carl!

}Package: zoo
}Version: 2.10-1
}
}Zoo seems to have some 14 character filename limits, even though the ext2
}filesystem doesn't have such a limit.  I can store long filenames, but
}an extract seems to truncate the name at 14 characters.  I have an a.out
}version that doesn't seem to have the same problem, but I am not sure
}if I had compiled it, or had gotten it from a very old slackware install.

As zoo comes from DOS I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to
support long filenames.

Regards,

	Joey

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> 
> Package: xosview
> Version: 1.3.2-6
> 
> The program doesn't access the directories listed in
> XUSERFILESEARCHPATH but it does read the default file
> in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.

I know, it's a horrible programme, isn't it.

Any suggestions about what I can do about this -- it's really
not just what paths it searches, it's also how it parses the
appdefauls files (all manually).

So if you've got any better ideas, I'd like to close this bug.

But thanks for the bug-report anyway, it's nice to know
people use xosview.

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Good morning pieterb!

}I came to the same conclusion while upgrading my Linux system to
}Debian 1.1.2. I also must say that the special-kernel directory in the Debian/stable
}directory is a mess in most ftp directories (even in ftp.debian.org). 
}
}Can you send me info if NCR SCSI 810 support is ready in a Debian
}bootdisk.

Both aha 2940 and NCR 810 are not supported by Debian bootdisks.  I
was in the same situation and created a special bootdisk, you might
want to use it, too.  You'll find it in
ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/Linux/Distributions/Debian/goodies/disks-i386/boot1440.bin.

There are only modules missing, just skip that section.

Regards,

	Joey

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Good morning Daniel!

}/sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755.

Why? I don't see any reason they should be executable by everyone.  I
have copied those permissions from my predecessor and I agree to them.

}/usr/doc/sysklogd should be 644.

Oups, sure. Will be fixed.

Regards,

	Joey

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>  (b) that the non-usual-maintainer releases should use a particular
>      revision format: eg, hello-1.3-8 would become hello-1.3-8.1.

Seems very right to me.  But I would like to add the following to it.

When mainstream is updated, hello-1.3 -> hello-1.4
Non-usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-0.1
Usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-1

Usual-maintainer should never use -0 for revisions.
And if we agree on this, it should be mandated in the manual.

Erick

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No, i mean "sysnews". For two reasons:

a) it is not sysv specific (you will find it on *bsd as well)

b) thats how the package used to be called before i renamed it to "news"

Later,
  Dominik


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You (Bruce Perens) wrote:
> Miquel:
> > If they don't react [to the request to convert to the new source package]
> > in say 2 weeks, someone else can do it (I'll take some) like David did
> > during the transition from a.out to ELF.
> 
> Thanks for volunteering! Please make sure to merge the multi-architecture
> patches while you do that.

Why do you think I'm volunteering :) I have ported all the base packages
to Debian/Alpha and there are a lot of diffs to merge in anyway. It's
probably easier for me to repackage everything and upload it then to
get all the maintainers to accept my patches. Well faster anyway.
As an added bonus all these packages then have GNU libc support so when
libc6 comes out for the i386 it will be just a matter of recompiling.

Expect the first Debian/Alpha machine on the net later today or tomorrow !

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> As zoo comes from DOS I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to
> support long filenames.

If this is a valid argument for you you might restrict to 8.3 .

E


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You (Michael Meskes) wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
> > the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
> >  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.
> >  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
> >  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.
> 
> I don't like either of these and IMO we shouldn't change. At least not in
> the near future.

We could ofcourse put in some symlinks (/var/state -> /var/lib, etc). Just
three of 'em and we'd be compliant :). One problem I see, one way or the other,
is how is dpkg going to deal with this? I understand it has some trouble
with files in symlinked directories or is that solved now?

BTW. I'd prefer going along with the FSSTND at the moment that other
distributions do it too. Can't we just wait and see what RedHat and others
do? Even better, can't we discuss this with them (hmm Eric Troan isn't
on this list is he :)).

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Please read the proposal below and comment on it.  If noone says
anything I'll probably implement and mandate something very like it in
the next week or two, in time for the new source package format (we
only want to change this once).  Now is the time to have your say.

I've been thinking about shared library dependencies some more and
have come to the conclusion that the current scheme is not good
enough.  As the new source format spec stands every package which
depends on a shared library must have hardcoded into the
debian/control which shared libraries are involved - the names and
version numbers of the packages must be entered manually into the
Depends or Recommends fields.

This will mean, amongst other things, that when we move to libc6 we
won't just be able to recompile the packages - we'll have to edit the
control files too.  This is already causing the alpha people problems
because their libcs are different.

I propose the following arrangement (if you don't understand things
you should read dpkg-source(1) and the relevant parts of the new
programmers' manual):

Every package which contains compiled binaries invokes, in its
debian/rules, a program which automatically determines what the
dependencies are.  Eg,
  dpkg-shlibdeps -fPre-Depends main/dpkg dselect/dselect
This produces on stdout something like
  shlib-Pre-Depends=libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2), ncurses3.0 (>= 1.9.9e-1)
(The -fpre-depends option can be -fDepends, -fRecommends or even
-fSuggests to specify a particular level of dependency, and
-f... options can be mixed with binary arguments).

The debian/rules puts the output in debian/substvars.  Then when it
runs dpkg-gencontrol the main source control file can say:
  Source: dpkg
  ...

  Package: dpkg
  Pre-Depends: ${shlib-Pre-Depends}
  ...

The dpkg-shlibdeps program works as follows: it runs ldd on the binary
in question, finding out which libraries are being loaded.  It uses
dpkg --search to find which packages they are in.  It then looks in a
file provided by that package to find out what the dependency name
ought to be (for example, libX11.so.6 is in xlib but the dependency
name should be elf-x11r6lib) and what version is required to make
ld.so not complain.  The file has lines looking like
  <libname>.so.<soname> <dependency>
eg
  libX11.so.6   elf-x11r6lib
  libc.so.5     libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2)

I'm not sure where to put the package-provided file.  Three
possibilities come to mind:
 * /etc/dpkg/shlibs/<package>
 * /usr/lib/dpkg/shlibs/<package>
 * /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.shlibs (came from DEBIAN/shlibs)

/etc has the feature that it can be a conffile, though it's not clear
to me whether this is necessary.  The second and third options seem
much of a muchness to me, but I'm inclined towards the /var/lib/dpkg
location as this will effectively hide the real location from anyone
but dpkg (the package maintainer puts the file in DEBIAN/shlibs and
dpkg-shlibdeps is the only thing that needs to find it).

There ought to be a conffile /etc/dpkg/shlibs.default which contains
overriding entries (and can be used to avoid problems when the shared
library in question didn't come from a Debian package, for example
when bootstrapping).

Ian.


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Package: fileutils
Version: 3.13-1

When running "chgrp" as root, no errors or warnings are given when the
group doesn't exist (e.g. when accidently using "chown"'s user.group
syntax), but the group is changed to a nearly unpredictable value.

Script started on Sat Aug 10 15:36:27 1996
zensunni root 15:36:28 ~/tmp # id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
zensunni root 15:36:32 ~/tmp # touch demo
zensunni root 15:36:37 ~/tmp # ls -l demo
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root            0 Aug 10 15:36 demo
zensunni root 15:36:41 ~/tmp # chgrp an.error demo
zensunni root 15:36:54 ~/tmp # ls -l demo
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys             0 Aug 10 15:36 demo
zensunni root 15:36:58 ~/tmp # chgrp --help
Usage: chgrp [OPTION]... GROUP FILE...
Change the group membership of each FILE to GROUP.

  -c, --changes           like verbose but report only when a change is made
  -h, --no-dereference    affect symbolic links instead of any referenced file
                          (available only on systems with lchown system call)
  -f, --silent, --quiet   suppress most error messages
  -v, --verbose           output a diagnostic for every file processed
  -R, --recursive         change files and directories recursively
      --help              display this help and exit
      --version           output version information and exit
zensunni root 15:37:06 ~/tmp # chgrp -c an.error demo
group of demo changed to an.error
zensunni root 15:37:26 ~/tmp # ls -l demo
-rw-r--r--   1 root     adm             0 Aug 10 15:36 demo
zensunni root 15:37:30 ~/tmp # chgrp -c -v an.error demo
group of demo changed to an.error
zensunni root 15:37:39 ~/tmp # ls -l demo
-rw-r--r--   1 root     tty             0 Aug 10 15:36 demo
zensunni root 15:37:42 ~/tmp # exit

Script done on Sat Aug 10 15:37:47 1996


Additional information:
- when running "chgrp" as an ordinary user and specifying a non-existant
  group, an error message is likely to be given, e.g.
	zensunni ray 15:41 /tmp> touch blech
	zensunni ray 15:41 /tmp> chgrp blub blech
	chgrp: you are not a member of group `blub': Operation not permitted
	Exit 1
	zensunni ray 15:41 /tmp> grep blub /etc/group
	Exit 1
  A better message would be: `blub': no such group, but at least an error
  is given.

Educated guess of cause:
This is an upstream bug. chgrp's parse_group (chgrp.c:123) is designed
to handle numeric gids too. For this purpose, xstrtoul is called
(line 138) which returns 0 for OK, or an error value (defined in
lib/xstrol.h). Only one of the possible error values (LONGINT_OVERFLOW)
causes chgrp to exit with a fatal error.

This explains why the problem doesn't often manifest itself when
chgrp is run as an ordinary user: ordinary users are members of only
a few groups, and are not allowed to chgrp to a group that they are
not a member of, including numerical gids not in /etc/group. The
interpretation of the "group" argument as a numerical gid is unlikely to
be that of a group of which the user is a member.

Ray
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On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Michael Gaertner writes ("Bug#4076: shadow-package (not a deb-format-archive)"):
> > Package: shadow
> > Version: 960530-1
> > 
> > with dpkg 1.2.13elf:
> > 
> > ./shadow_960530-1_i386.deb
> > 
> > prints:
> > "dpkg-deb: 'shadow...' is not a debian format archive"
> 
> Did you download it in binary mode ?  It looks OK on the mirror here.
> 
> If your file is corrupted could you send it to me, uuencoded, and I'll
> try to make dpkg-deb spot this rather common mistake.
Sorry, I rm'd it.

> 
> Ian.
> 

The maintainer can close this bugreport. I got a fresh one from
feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de and this time all works well.


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Michael Meskes writes:
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
> > the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
> >  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.
> >  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
> >  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.
> 
> I don't like either of these and IMO we shouldn't change.
That depends on what we consider more important: technical beauty or
compatibility with other systems. If the FHS is adopted by upstream
maintainers then being non-standard will create unnecessary
work for debian package maintainers. And this will probably
invite bugs, which is bad, too.

> At least not in the near future.
Yep. I think we should wait for the issue to settle down in the FHS-list
and act according to its development then.

Generally I think that in the long run being non-standard is
worse than being standard even if the standard isn't 100% perfect.

-Chris


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Ian Jackson writes:
> No, because packages which depend on contrib packages must go in
> contrib too.

Hmm, that wasn't what was said a while ago when we moved xforms.

I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.

What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
tree then?

Michael

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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

Currently the netstd package contains rdist version 6.1.
Could this please be upgraded to version 6.1.1 or 6.1.2,
so that it works with ssh?

Thanks.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>From the ssh FAQ:

    4.4 Can I use rdist with ssh?

    Stock rdist 6.1.0 does not work together with ssh, due to bugs in it. The 6.1.1 versions of rdist and
    later versions are believed to work.

    If you use rdist, don't forget to compile the path to ssh into it. Alternatively, you may specify the -P
    option so rdist uses ssh, and not rsh.

    If you use password authentication with rdist 6.1.2, you will need to apply the following patch to
    rdist to make it work: 

    --- src/rshrcmd.c.orig  Tue Jun 11 16:51:21 1996
    +++ src/rshrcmd.c       Tue Jun 11 16:52:05 1996
    @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@
		    /* child. we use sp[1] to be stdin/stdout, and close
		       sp[0]. */
		    (void) close(sp[0]);
    -               if (dup2(sp[1], 0) < 0 || dup2(0,1) < 0 || dup2(0, 2) < 0) {
    +               if (dup2(sp[1], 0) < 0 || dup2(0,1) < 0) {
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> The latest draft FHS, which they may well publish as it stands, makes
> the following changes with which I have very strong disagreements:
>  * The mail spool, /var/spool/mail, is moved to /var/mail.

This is a positive thing.  Both SVR4 and BSD 4.4 put it here.  I think
any contemporary unix should.

>  * /var/lib is renamed to /var/state (yes, all of it).
>  * /var/lib/games is moved to /var/games.
>  * A new directory /usr/libexec is created to hold command binaries
>   used only internally by programs - these are to be moved from
>   /usr/lib and in some cases /usr/sbin.  Oddly there is no
>   corresponding /libexec directory.

I don't really care about these.  They're the sort of thing that dances
around from one unix to the next anyway.

> The two good changes that I see are (and they are not minor):
>  * /usr/share exists and is defined.
>  * /opt exists and is defined.

These are nice.

> [1] When the original FSSTND was created I argued in favour of
> /libexec and /usr/libexec, but lost that debate.  I'm less convinced
> now than I was then, but my main reason for opposing it now is that it
> is too late to change.

Nah - we've always got to be careful about "it's too late now" syndrome.
To think otherwise, is to plot a path to obsolescence.  They oughta add
/libexec, tho.

Symlinks help, especially if you keep developers informed that usage Of
those symlinks is deprecated.


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>  > If it is relavent to me specifically (eg. relates to one of my packages),
>  > then I like being copied because it means I won't miss it in the volume
>  > of the list.
> 
> Is it because you filter to mail folders depending on the To: field (the
> only reason I see that would make the messages appear differently)? In
> this case, can't you just use your package names as a selection criterion
> for which messages are more important for you?

Actually, it's because my address on the list is different that my
personal
address.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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> The terms of the suit require MS to give _Caldera_ details of APIs. Not
> the general public, just Caldera. MS can still keep them under non-disclosure,
> and Caldera would have to honor the terms of an NDA approved by the court.

I noticed this too.  It could just be necessary to make the lawsuit
plausible, but I'm not so sure.

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> I propose the following arrangement (if you don't understand things
> you should read dpkg-source(1) and the relevant parts of the new
> programmers' manual):
> 
> Every package which contains compiled binaries invokes, in its
> debian/rules, a program which automatically determines what the
> dependencies are.  Eg,
>   dpkg-shlibdeps -fPre-Depends main/dpkg dselect/dselect
> This produces on stdout something like
>   shlib-Pre-Depends=libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2), ncurses3.0 (>= 1.9.9e-1)
> (The -fpre-depends option can be -fDepends, -fRecommends or even
> -fSuggests to specify a particular level of dependency, and
> -f... options can be mixed with binary arguments).

And what about packages that depend on *one* particular version of a
library? I know of one library which will cause trouble, namely libslang.
This library changes every minor version update so that programs compiled
with earlier versions will not work (I'm not into shared libs, but I think
I'm correct if I say that the ABI changes not only with .so-name changes).

Maarten

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>>   libc.so.5     libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2)

Hmm. How are we going to determine the minor versions?  I run an
"unstable" system and use it for my development -- but my packages are
mostly user applications that really don't care about the particular
rev of libc, just about the soname... so emacs, for example, needs
5.2.18, but really doesn't care if it's -2 or -9...


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> > I've been thinking about what you said regarding search engines for
> > "debiandoc".  As I understand it, this is to be a debian package, is it
> > not?
> 
> At least Debian. I won't get upset if someone ports it to Red Hat, Slackware,
> *BSD*, or a Cray... :-)

Cray Linux.  I've heard somebody is actually working on that!


> > What do you think of this idea?
> 
> Thanks for the offer, but alas, it's not workable -- the index needs to be
> rebuilt for each system separately, since the set of documents is different
> on each system, and Debiandoc is supposed to support locally installed
> documentation as well.
> 
> I will, however, make debiandoc and ferret work together, if it isn't
> too much work. From my experiments with glimpse a long time ago, it
> can index arbitrary directories or files, and outputs a list of filenames
> as the result of the search. If ferret can do that, then I'll add support
> for it in debiandoc.

It shouldn't be hard.  Ferret indexes an arbitrary list of words against
an arbitrary text string.  (The text string is usually a URL or a path
name, but it isn't limited to such.)

If you could add ferret to the "suggests" field, I'd appreciate it.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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Ian,

We can make your proposal simpler by using virtual package names to
find the libraries.

Each package that provides a shared library should, for each shared
library that it provides, automaticaly add something like
"Provides: libX11.so.6" to the control file. Each package that depends
on a library should automaticaly add "Depends: libX11.so.6" to the
control file.

If you want to know about the executable format, you could prepend
"elf-i386-" to the library name.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.

Me too. However, I think that the way to accomplish that is to persuade
the XForms authors to release the sources under some kind of free license.
Or help promote a FreeXForms project.

> 
> What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
> tree then?
> 

I would still not be able to rebuild from scratch. Any user should be able
to rebuild any package in the official Debian distribution from the
original source plus our patches.



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Hi,
Michael Meskes wrote:

> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.
> 
> What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
> tree then?

Being a Debian/m68k user, my opinion is: _Each_ package that is in the
standard tree should be compilable for all platforms (ok, there are packages
where this does not exactly make sense, like base/mbr on an Amiga, but you
get the idea). This also means that for all those packages AND the packages
they depend on sources have to be available. 
LyX requires XForms. XForms is currently not available for m68k (I've started
talking to the author, but this might take a while). Even IF we once have
XForms for m68k, nobody still has the sources. 

So I'd say: Both XForms and LyX go into non-free. Compiling/linking LyX
statically doesn't change this point, IMHO.

Frank


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Package: boot (boot1440.bin, install)
Version: 1.1  (kernel is 2.0.0)

Updated information...

Problem: On some systems, the compressed kernel image provided on the
installation floppy (boot1440.bin) is not decompressed properly when
read from floppy.  One solution that seems to work for most users is to
*disable the internal cache*.  If this does not work for you, try
disabling both the internal and external cache.  This is done via the
bios setup.

This is not a fix, but a work-around.  I have tested this on my system
(which has this behavior), and disabling the internal cache allows the
kernel decompression to proceed.  It is my understanding (I have not had
a chance to test this) that the cache can be re-enabled once the system
has been installed.

BTW, my floppy controller is built into my Adaptec controller.  I don't
have the system in front of me, but the controller is a 154x.  (I just
can't remember that last digit... sorry).

Thanks to Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> for looking into this.

Here are some notes from <debian-user@lists.debian.org>:

: From: "Christopher R. Hertel" <crh@nts.umn.edu>
: > I disabled the internal cache and--*poof*--the problem went away.
: > I will send a report to linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu.
:
: I have one other report matching this, and two anecdotes, all
: reproduced below. I suspect that BIOS floppy I/O is breaking when the
: cache is enabled, and you are thus feeding bad data to the disk
: uncompression code in the kernel. This could perhaps be a bug in
: syslinux, (the boot loader we are using) or a bug in the decompression
: code (which is in the kernel, but is sort of a 16-bit prelude to the
: actual kernel).  You might try other ways of starting the kernel (LILO
: on a floppy rather than a hard disk, LOADLIN from DOS, etc.) to see if
: any of them fail with the cache enabled.  That might tell you if it's
: the uncompression code or the loader that is at fault. About the only
: way to fix this is will be someone with the susceptible hardware to
: drive the process.
:
: Steve Gaarder:
: > I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on
: > an Opti-based motherboard. If I have the internal cache enabled in
: > setup, I get the error "invalid compressed format" after the
: > "uncompressing Linux" message.  If I disable the cache, it boots
: > fine.  It boots ok from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what
: > is going on?
:
: > From: Dan Bergman <dan.bergman@mailbox.swipnet.se>
: > I had problems like this a couple years back when I was installing
: > OS/2 on a Dell Machine (486,66mhz).. The installation would fail if
: > I didn't disabel both L1 and L2 caches.. But I ripped out the
: > TsengLab GFX card (VLB) and all troubles went away.. Ripping out gfx
: > card is often not a option but the Dell MB had a Cyrrus Logic Chip
: > on it...
:
: mike cotherman:
: > I had this problem when I used EDO RAM on a motherboard that did not
: > support EDO...just a thought

-- 
Christopher R. Hertel -)-----                   University of Minnesota
crh@nts.umn.edu              Networking and Telecommunications Services


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Martin Schulze wrote:
> As zoo comes from DOS I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to
> support long filenames.

zoo comes from Rahul Dhesi, and was designed from the ground up to be
cross-platform, albeit particularly for use with CBIP.

The 14 character limitation is probably a rudiment of linux's roots in
minix-386.


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Michael Meskes wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > No, because packages which depend on contrib packages must go in
> > contrib too.
> 
> Hmm, that wasn't what was said a while ago when we moved xforms.
> 
> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.
> 
> What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
> tree then?

If you're going to recompile it statically, I beg of you, provide a non-
statically linked version too (in a separate package, perhaps). One of my
major gripes about many programs is that they are larger than they need to
be, because they are statically linked, and I've got the libraries installed
on my system.

I've only got 350MB allocated to Linux...! :-)

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Michael Meskes:
> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. 

I guess I'm repeating myself, but oh well. In my opinion, the main Debian
distribution (i.e., not including non-free or contrib) should consist only
of free software, where the definition of free includes the requirement
that source code is available and that the program does not depend in
a significant manner on a non-free package, whether the dependency is during
compilation, installation or use.

XForms is not free (no source). Anything that uses XForms is not free,
because you can't compile it without XFree.

All the installer packages likewise. And *-?motif packages.

If a package is otherwise free, but depends on non-free, it should go to
contrib.

> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.

That would be great, but as long as it depends on non-free stuff, it should
go in contrib.

> What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
> tree then?

As far as I'm concerned, no. That just moves the dependency to another
point in time, and additionally causes trouble for users.

We need to have complete source code so that we can port packages to
new platforms, or to new tools or libraries. I'm sure XForms is nice,
but is there a version of the Alpha? For glibc? For newest XFree shared
libraries? For gcc with pentium patches? With profiling support? 

Placing a package in non-free or contrib isn't discriminatory, it's just
honesty and makes it possible for people to choosing packages more easily.
I'm all for having LyX packaged for Debian, and XForms too, but we aren't
helping the user by putting it into the main distribution.

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Hi,

This increases Gnuchess's playing strength in the first few moves of the
game.  Cheating, you could say :-), but good practice for strong players.

Enjoy!

Nikhil.


Date: 13 Aug 96 00:07 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Nikhil Nair <nnair@debian.org>
Source: gnuchess_4.0.pl77-1
Version: 1.0
Binary:  gnuchess-book
Architecture:  i386
Description: 
 gnuchess-book: A huge openings book for Gnuchess.
Changes: A new Debian-specific package.
Files:
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   gnuchess-book_1.0_i386.deb

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Date: 13 Aug 96 00:04 UT
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Source: gnuchess
Version: 4.0.pl77-1
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Description: 
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Changes:
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 - Added easily configurable memory usage
 - Suggests new package gnuchess-book (same source), which provides a more
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'Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:'
>
>You (Michael Shields) wrote:
>> Package: sendmail
>> Version: 8.7.5-4
>> 
>> sendmail depends on deliver.  However, in at least two common
>> configurations -- null client, and delivery by procmail -- it will run
>> perfectly without deliver.  sendmail should only recommend it.
>
>And as a result you can install sendmail without deliver and your
>mail installation won't work at all..
>
>Sendmail should come with mail.local instead of deliver IMHO.

Sendmail should be configurable, IMHO.

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My memory is going, my archives have bit rot...

Did we reach any conclusion on reorganizing the devel directory?

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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.13elf

I'm trying to package "genpower" (a UPS monitoring daemon), but am having
trouble with the postinst:

  #! /bin/sh -e
  #
  # postinst file for genpower
  echo "- Installing 'start' ..."
  update-rc.d genpowerd start 11 1 2 3 4 5
  echo "- Installing 'stop' ..."
  update-rc.d genpowerd stop  99 0

The results of this are:

  Selecting previously deselected package genpower.
  (Reading database ... 14718 files and directories currently installed.)
  Unpacking genpower (from ../genpower_1.0.1-1_i386.deb) ...
  Setting up genpower (1.0.1-1) ...
  - Installing 'start' ...
   Adding system startup links pointing to /etc/init.d/genpowerd ...
     rc1.d/S11genpowerd -> ../init.d/genpowerd
     rc2.d/S11genpowerd -> ../init.d/genpowerd
     rc3.d/S11genpowerd -> ../init.d/genpowerd
     rc4.d/S11genpowerd -> ../init.d/genpowerd
     rc5.d/S11genpowerd -> ../init.d/genpowerd
  shift: shift count must be <= $#
  dpkg: error processing genpower (--install):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   genpower

I could not find any installed packages on my system that use
the "start" and "stop" commands instead of "defaults".

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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Package: ppp
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when installing via dselect from unstable, I get
Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-3) ...
shift: shift count must be <= $#

Not sure what the bug is, haven't looked at the script.


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Package: libpaper
Version: 0.4-1

Right now libpaper comes with a /etc/papersize file containing "letter  "
at the first line.  IMO it should ask at postinst time what papersize is
wanted and should create /etc/papersize with the received value.

Erick


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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> It seems to me that init should have an appropriate default PATH.
> This is especially true if the default is hard to change or override.
> 
> I've recently been bitten by an /etc/rc?.d script not having the PATH
> I expected.
> 
> The default PATH for non-superuser programs everywhere should be
>  /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
> and for superuser (admin) programs
>  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> should it not ?
[...]
> I shall reopen this bug report, to ensure that the issue is not
> forgotten; I hope we won't have to have more discussion before a
> consensus is reached, but if we do I hope the sysvinit maintainer will
> bear with us and allow us to keep the bug on his books while we agree
> what to do.

As noone has really followed up on this, and it sounds reasonable to me,
I've fixed the PATH setting in init.c and /etc/init.d/boot and /etc/init.d/rc
as proposed above.

(I have also changed this in login.c from util-linux while porting to the
Alpha - I think this will get back in the main dist).

Closing this bug report  -Mike.
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I've noticed that Bruce has included a /etc/default directory in
the latest base packages. I want to release new versions of sysvinit
and nis in a couple of days / weeks 

I'm thinking of starting to use /etc/default (/etc/init.d/boot will source
/etc/default/boot and /etc/init.d/nis will source /etc/default/nis).

If noone really disagrees I'll just start using it, see what happens. It
looks like the thread on this subject has just died out silently..

Mike.
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Bruce Perens writes ("Re:  Documentation formats"):
> From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
> > The thing is that I think we need to be able to distribute other
> > [documentation] end-products [than HTML].
> > HTML is bad for printing, for example, and not ideal
> > if you have a slow machine. Choice is a good thing.
> 
> Do you have a proposal? I'm not trying to exclude other formats,
> but I'm trying to arrive at a common denominator, even if it
> has its detriments.

Yes, fine.  I think we're in agreement.  I'll post my proposal in
another message.

> I'm not sure I agree with the slow machine part. That seems to be
> browser-specific.

Well, even lynx is much slower than less, and has a worse user
interface in some people's eyes.

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Bruce Perens writes ("Re: Documentation formats"):
...
> The unification of Debian documentation will be carried out via
> HTML. You should not consider the merits of a particular HTML viewer,
> or even the weight of the best of our existing HTTP servers. These things
> will change with time, and without effort on our part. Instead, you
> should concentrate in providing automatic means to present man files,
> info files, and other various forms of documentation to the user. This
> can be done at run-time via CGI scripts, or when the documentation packages
> are installed. Use existing software where possible. Try to consider disk
> space, but having a full documentation system takes priority over that.
> A keyword search facility and a unifying set of indices are a high
> priority.

Texinfo-generated info files are very common for obvious reasons.

Do we start distributing Texinfo-generated HTML instead ?  (Is
texi2html any good ?)  Or do we do some kind of display-time
conversion from info to HTML ?  Or leave the question for the moment ?

Ian.


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I've just tried replacing Xaw3d with the original Xaw library
and both listres and viewres worked! Obviously there's some
incompatibility here, could someone fix listres & viewres?
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Bruce Perens writes ("Re:  Documentation formats"):
> From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
> > The thing is that I think we need to be able to distribute other
> > [documentation] end-products [than HTML].
...
> Do you have a proposal?
...

My initial proposal is as follows:

If it's available we distribute HTML documentation with the package
itself (if the documentation is usually distributed with the package)
or in the main documentation package <package>-doc (if it wants to be
distributed separately, for example because it's large).

Other formats are distributed in separate packages <package>-doc*
where * is some string.  We can either put them all together, keeping
the number of packages small, or have one package per format, making
it possible to install formats selectively.  If we do former the *
should probably be `xf' (extra formats) or `fmts' (formats) or some
such; if we do the latter it should represent the format (`dvi', `ps',
`text', whatever).

We can do a mixture of the two, specifying that one or two specific
formats should be supplied in their own packages, or allow the package
maintainer to decide, or set size-based guidelines, or whatever.

Opinions and arguments, anyone ?

Ian.


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(Moved to debian-devel:)

branderh@debian.iaehv.nl writes ("Re: des encryption.."):
> [Ian Jackson:]
> > Can we please put /opt -> /usr/opt and the empty /opt tree in the base
> > package, before things get any worse ?
> > 
> > Also I propose to mandate in the policy manual that packages which use
> > /opt should provide appropriate links or files in
> > /opt/{bin,lib,man,include,info,doc} and that packages which search
> > paths must look in /opt too.  Comments ?  (And see the recent
> > FSSTND/FHS work on /opt - it's deliberately very vague.)
> 
> And where goes the copyright file ? /opt/doc/<package>/copyright ? This will
> be messy.  /usr/doc/<package>/copyright seems to be inappropriate as well.

/opt/<package>/copyright, in line with the non-integrated nature of
many of these packages ?

Any opinions, anyone ?

Ian.


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branderh@debian.iaehv.nl writes ("Re: Releases other than by the
package maintainert"):
> [Ian Jackson:]
> >  (b) that the non-usual-maintainer releases should use a particular
> >      revision format: eg, hello-1.3-8 would become hello-1.3-8.1.
> 
> Seems very right to me.  But I would like to add the following to it.
> 
> When mainstream is updated, hello-1.3 -> hello-1.4
> Non-usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-0.1
> Usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-1
> 
> Usual-maintainer should never use -0 for revisions.
> And if we agree on this, it should be mandated in the manual.

I think this seems reasonable.  I propose to mandate it.

Any objections, considerations ?

Ian.


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Maarten Boekhold writes ("Re: Shared library dependencies revisited"):
...
> And what about packages that depend on *one* particular version of a
> library? I know of one library which will cause trouble, namely libslang.
> This library changes every minor version update so that programs compiled
> with earlier versions will not work [...]

There is no problem with this - it's not even a special case.  I'm
assuming that the whole library version is in the soname.

Of course the library soname has to be encoded into the package name,
so that different versions can coexist.

Can the upstream authors not be persuaded to do better ?

> [...] (I'm not into shared libs, but I think
> I'm correct if I say that the ABI changes not only with .so-name
> changes).

Yes.

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Bruce Perens writes ("Re:  Shared library dependencies revisited"):
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> We can make your proposal simpler by using virtual package names to
> find the libraries.    [ eg Provides: libX11.so.6 ]

This is a very interesting idea, thanks for the suggestion.

As it stands there are a couple of problems:

Firstly, we need to depend on a particular version of the package, so
that the library version number is high enough for ld.so not to
complain.  If we use virtual packages we need to implement virtual
package versions in dpkg, which is (a) a big job and (b) hard to
deploy (because it's a change to the syntax of the Packages file).

Secondly, some packages (the X11 libraries package is a good example)
contain many different shared libraries.  It seems silly to include a
dependency on each one.  For example, xbase depends on 7 different X
libraries, all part of the xlib package, and many packages depend on
both libc and libm, which come together.  If we do as you suggest
these packages will have long and confusing dependencies.

Further suggestions welcome.

Ian.

-chiark:~> ldd /usr/bin/X11/xterm
        libXaw.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.0
        libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.0
        libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6.0
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6.0
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.0
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.0
        libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
-chiark:~> ldd /usr/bin/a2p 
        libgdbm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.1.7.3
        libdb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdb.so.1.85.2
        libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1.7.14
        libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5.0.5
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
-chiark:~>


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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Shared library dependencies revisited"):
> >>   libc.so.5     libc5 (>= 5.2.18-2)
> 
> Hmm. How are we going to determine the minor versions?  I run an
> "unstable" system and use it for my development -- but my packages are
> mostly user applications that really don't care about the particular
> rev of libc, just about the soname... so emacs, for example, needs
> 5.2.18, but really doesn't care if it's -2 or -9...

The package version is the first one which contained the library with
the correct minor version so that ld.so doesn't complain.  I don't
know how you determine this, but it's specific to the shared library
and you can do it however you like when you build the library package.
dpkg-shlibdeps just looks the details up in the file provided by the
library package.

libc5 is an exception because 5.2.18-2 is the first one that had the
right dependencies &c for ELF conversion.

Ian.


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Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> writes:

> Setting up ppp (2.2.0f-3) ...
> shift: shift count must be <= $#
> 
> Not sure what the bug is, haven't looked at the script.

If you immediately re-install it will work.  I discovered that this
was a bug that only happens the first time the package is ever
installed on a machine, but I forgot to report it.

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Package: xmanpages
Version: 3.1.2-6

Here's a patch:
--- XtOpenApplication.3x.orig	Wed May  8 01:04:13 1996
+++ XtOpenApplication.3x	Tue Aug 13 17:51:13 1996
@@ -129,7 +129,7 @@
 \fIoptions\fP, \fInum_options\fP, \fIargc_in_out\fP, \fIargv_in_out\fP, \
 \fIfallback_resources\fP, \fIwidget_class\fP, \fIargs\fP, \fInum_args\fP)
 .br
-      XtAppContext \fIapp_context_return\fP;
+      XtAppContext* \fIapp_context_return\fP;
 .br
       String \fIapplication_class\fP;
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@@ -153,7 +153,7 @@
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 \fIfallback_resources\fP, \fIwidget_class\fP, ...)
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+      XtAppContext* \fIapp_context_return\fP;
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       String \fIapplication_class\fP;
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Package: uucp
Version: 1.06.1-2

uucp has several references to /usr/spool/uucp and /usr/spool/uucppublic.
These should be in /var/spool.

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If I position the selection bar on "All Brokenly Installed Packages" and press
the "-" key, _all_ packages are de-selected, not just the brokenly installed
ones. This is counter-intuitive.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: diald

The user installs the "diald" package, but does not edit its configuration.
The user starts up "pppd" from outside of "diald". "pppd" says
"Sorry, this system does not support PPP". If you uninstall "diald",
the problem goes away.

Perhaps it shouldn't activate itself until the user configures it?

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: ssh
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If I type "ssh -C hostname" and use gpm to paste more than 4 lines
text at a time ssh freezes.


Thanks,

Peter

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Please fix it accordingly.
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They get stuck in my home, and I can't connect again (the connection
is lost everytime I want to log in). Can someone please put

	~arrouye/libpaper_1.0*

in

	/home/Debian/ftp/private/project/Incoming

for me, please?

Alternatively, developers who need it (Ian, Joost) can just fetch it
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(I as because I'm going on vacation for eight days.)


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Please do not use 0.* versions anymore.

The next release (1.0-1) will have a paperconfig paper configuration
script instead of having /etc/papersize as a conffile.

Yves.

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Date: 13 Aug 96 17:16 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org>
Source: libpaper
Version: 1.0-1
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Description: 
 libpaper: Library for handling paper characteristics
Changes:
 * abstract interface (struct paper hidden) so that future changes
 can be made safely.
 * stores dimensions as double, still in PS points.
Files:
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PACKAGE: motifnls
VERSION: 2.1-1

A commercial application (Maple VR3) does not run correctly under
X11R6 even with motifnls installed.  It complains abut unknown
keysyms osf* (for example osfCopy), even though these are defined
in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB.

The problem is that Maple looks for these things under /usr/X386,
as verified with strace.

Solution: cd /usr ; ln -s X11R6 X386
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Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> writes:

> > Seems very right to me.  But I would like to add the following to it.
> > 
> > When mainstream is updated, hello-1.3 -> hello-1.4
> > Non-usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-0.1
> > Usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-1
> > 
> > Usual-maintainer should never use -0 for revisions.
> > And if we agree on this, it should be mandated in the manual.
> 
> I think this seems reasonable.  I propose to mandate it.
> 
> Any objections, considerations ?

Doesn't this open up the file naming question again.  I.e. before we
could say definitively that 

xxx_yyy-zzz.aaa

meant package xxx, uppstream yyy, and debian revision zzz with the aaa
stuff being the deb/tar.gz/diff.gz stuff (did I get that right?).
Doesn't the extra dot separated field invalidate this heuristic?  Or
is that just the wrong heuristic?

Just wanted to make sure we could still parse file names easily.  I
know that most of the time the info should be gathered from the
package itself, but there are times when using the name is extremely
helpful.

--
Rob


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In message <m0up1QD-0004OEC@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>, Ian Jackson writes:
>Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or
>issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as
>described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian
>policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.3.x, will become official.

I hate to even ask this, since if we want to make this change for the
next release, but can we have just a bit more time?

I have been singularly busy of late, and have only recently gotten to
the point of being able to read the new docs you put up, and while
everything seems sensible "on paper", I worry that it we don't have
people actually try it out, there's going to be some unexpected
problems.

> * Automation of the generation of .changes files from information in
>   a parseable changelog and elsewhere.

I have installed the changelog macros, and find they work well.

Finally, though you say the documents are just cut-n-paste from other
stuff, they seem to do a better job of documenting some of the
"conventions" that we've adopted over the last several months, WRT
shared libraryies and the rest.

And if you're creating them from your linuxdoc-sgml hack, I'm quite
interested that you make it available for others use.  It seems much
cleaner than the original.  Or maybe that's just a function of a
better conversion tool.

Mike.
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Erick Branderhorst writes:
 > 
 > Package: libpaper
 > Version: 0.4-1
 > 
 > Right now libpaper comes with a /etc/papersize file containing "letter  "
 > at the first line.  IMO it should ask at postinst time what papersize is
 > wanted and should create /etc/papersize with the received value.

This is for 1.0-1. I did the script on another machine, cannot use rcp
or diskettes, so I'll type it in next week after my one-week holidays.

Yves.


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Ian Jackson writes:
> Package: libc5-dev
> Version: 5.2.18-9
> 
> As you can see below, <linux/if_arp.h> should include
> <linux/netdevice.h> and <linux/if.h>.
> ...

Fixed in version 5.2.18-10.

David
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Package: base
Version: 1.1.0-14

/tmp/base-1.1.0/prototype/etc$ grep majordom passwd
majordom:*:30:30:majordomo:/var/majordomo:/bin/sh
/tmp/base-1.1.0/prototype/etc$ grep majordom group
majordom:*:31:

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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

This is not strictly a bug, but a request...

Right now popclient insists on reading the password from /dev/tty.
This means that you have to keep your password on disk if you want to
have popclient get your mail periodically.  It would be much more
flexible if it just read from stdio.  Perhaps there's a security
reason not to do this, but if so, could an option be added that would
allow it to read from stdio "--stdiopass" or something?

It would allow the creation of something like mailcrypt or auto-pgp's
handling of the password, and would just be more flexible in general.

I'll volunteer to write the patch if this is an OK idea.

Thanks
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@bucknell.edu> writes:

>> /sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755.

Martin Schulze <joey@finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE> writes:

> Why? I don't see any reason they should be executable by everyone.
> I have copied those permissions from my predecessor and I agree to
> them.

First, I think the Debian package standards specify that all binaries
should be executable by everyone.

Second, it's really simple to check whether the person running the
program has permission with geteuid(2).  If they don't, print a polite
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Dan


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Daniel Quinlan writes:

>> Package: fdutils
>> Version: 4.3-3
>> 
>> /usr/bin/fdmount should be mode 4755, not 4750.

Michael Meskes <meskes@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:

> I agree that the installation is not correct, but I doubt mode 4755
> is a solution. I for one don't like the idea that everyone is able
> to access my floppy drive. Since the Debian standard installation
> for floppy devices is mode 660 with owner root and group floppy I
> propose to use the same owner/group combination for fdmount.
>
> Any comments before I create a new version?

Use geteuid(2) and/or use a configuration file that says who has
access.  Using permissions alone to dictate who has access to
*running* the binary is bad, IMHO, and I think the Debian package
guidelines agree (unless they've been changed).  Even worse, it's a
`4750' binary in /bin -- so users are getting "permission denied"
errors for something in their path.

Dan


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> Or do we do some kind of display-time conversion from info to HTML ?

This is probably best.

	Thanks

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Bruce:
> We can make your proposal simpler by using virtual package names to
> find the libraries.    [ eg Provides: libX11.so.6 ]

From: Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>
> As it stands there are a couple of problems:
> [...] we need to depend on a particular version of the package
> [...] some packages contain many different shared libraries.

OK. Have each library-provider automaticaly include a "Provides: " for
each library that it provides, with the name indicating the
architecture, executable format, soname, and major and _minor_ numbers
of the library.

The tool that looks for library dependencies in packages finds 
the packages that provide virtual package names matching the libraries
it needs, and adds a dependency for the _actual_ package and its version
rather than for the virtual package name.

This is still overloading "Provides:" for half the process. If you don't
like that, you can put it in another field ("Exports:"?). This still allows
you to leverage on the existing database rather than to add another file
to the package. 

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Package: samba
Version: 1.9.16alpha10-1

When left unattended, the smbd daemon (or several instances of such)
seems to go into some sort of busy look that eats up all of the
processor time of the computer.  This seems to occur when no computers
are actually accessing shares exported by samba (i.e. when the Win95
machines are turned off for the night), but may also occur at other
times (i.e. the only share requested by a just turned on machine doesn't
exist).

Since the machines that samba runs on are used as production news and
web servers, this is a serious problem.  Current solution is to run smbd
as a daemon instead of from inetd and to kill it before leaving for the
day.  Seeking a better solution, or pointer to an earlier version that
may remidy the problem by stepping to a more stable release.

I believe 1.9.15beta? or 1.8.? (which I was running on a slackware
system that was recently replaced by the debian system) did not exhibit
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In message <199608131743.TAA09788@mvmap66.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>, Thomas Koenig writes:
>The problem is that Maple looks for these things under /usr/X386,
>as verified with strace.
>
>Solution: cd /usr ; ln -s X11R6 X386

Real Solution:  Complain to your vendor about the use of inappropriate
paths.

Installing a link to /usr/X386 is inappropriate, and has been shown to
cause problems with man and other stuff.

Alternately, one might look into patching the binary, as the netscape
package does.

Mike.
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Package: bash
Version: 1.14.6-4

At first I thought I knew what was going on, but now I'm not so sure.
Basically the problem is that you can't use the trick from the perlrun
man page that allows you to execute a perl script in situations where
the #! line is not honored (for example an "at" script).  It depends
on having a line like this at the beginning of the script:

  #!/bin/sh -- # -*- perl -*- -p
  eval 'exec perl $0 -S ${1+"$@"}'
    if 0;
 
Unfortuantely this doesn't work.  You get an error from sh claiming
that - is a bad arg.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding...
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Hello,

From:  squid-users@nlanr.net  (http://www.nlanr.net/Squid/)

Greetings Squid Users!  Version 1.0.6 is now available

I would like to help with making it Debian (if I can).

Also, on that same list is talk of kernel tuning,
max file descriptors etc. 

Has someone looked at Linux kernel parameters for a dedicated
debian / squid proxy ??

I use debian/Squid 1.0.beta16 on a P133 48MB
1.2GB system disk
2 * 2.5GB cache (2 partitons each)

I works fine, but is a bit unstable.

Best regards
ragnar@this.is
this.is/ragnar


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package: dpkg
version: 1.3.4

Some of us use the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable to get emacs
and patch (among others) to create a revision history when editing
files.

Unfortunately, dpkg-source doesn't pay any attention to the setting
for that variable, and therefore assumes patch will work in a specific
fashion when that is not guaranteed.

It must either make sure that VERSION_CONTROL isn't set before running
patch (which is probably the most reliable solution), or try and
figure out exactly which files are the correct ones to delete based on
intimate knowledge of how the VERSION_CONTROL variable influences the
behavior of programs.

Mike.
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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
message to forwarded@bugs.debian.org.

The maintainer listed against each package is derived from the Maintainer
field of the package as found in the development tree; there is an override
file that can be amended to get the right results if you have taken over a
package and do not expect to issue a new version soon.

Variant versions of the Maintainer field for the same actual package
maintainer will be listed separately.

Maintainers with few outstanding bugs appear first, to avoid those with few
bugs being lost deep in the message.

 Package     Ref    Subject

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu> (1 bugs):
 make         4073  make pattern rules delete intermediate files

Brian White <bcwhite@pobox.com> (1 bugs):
 mime-suppo   4106  mime-support doc files are installed into /usr/doc

Brian Mays <brian@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 cpio         4072  cpio package is missing rmt.8 manual

Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu> (1 bugs):
 exmh         3824  exmh fails to start

Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 libpaper     4125  libpaper should ask for papersize

Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> (1 bugs):
 tar          4084  New tar may be broken.

Martin Schulze <joey@namib.north.de> (1 bugs):
 zoo          3961  14 character file name limit in zoo

Nikhil Nair <nn201@cus.cam.ac.uk> (1 bugs):
 gnuchess     4123  "gnuchess" requires changes for multi-arch support

Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cindy.et.tudelft.nl> (1 bugs):
 slrn         4103  slrn epends on unavailable slang-lib09931

Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.au> (1 bugs):
 unarj        3641  unarj description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pk

bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. White) (1 bugs):
 gnats        3053  gnats: typo in postinst omits install-info

David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs.ch> (1 bugs):
 magicfilte   4063  magicfilter has wrong path

Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (1 bugs):
 dmalloc      3925  "dmalloc" requires changes for multi-arch support

mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) (1 bugs):
 elv-ctags    2503  elvis and emacs both provide ctags

Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com> (1 bugs):
 mgt          4023  "mgt" requires changes for multi-arch support

Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net> (1 bugs):
 sp           4102  sp and LaTeX problems

adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew D. Fernandes) (2 bugs):
 acs          3559  acs description: no ext
 acs          3851  "acs" requires changes to support multiple arches

Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 fdutils      4051  access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount
 lyx, ftp.d   4078  lyx should be in `contrib'

Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.com> (2 bugs):
 tin          3787  tin uses /etc/news/descriptions instead of /etc/news/newsgr
 tin          3942  tin cannot find Newsgroup Descriptions

Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenster.de> (2 bugs):
 electric-f   3582  electric-fence description: no ext
 electric-f   4045  "electric-fence" requires changes for multi-arch support

Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 lists.debi   3199  Bizarre message from debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org
 lists.debi   3978  problem (re)subscribing to debian-devel

Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@ed.ac.uk> (2 bugs):
 ispell       2425  ispell thinks `formated' is correct
 ispell       3196  ispell symlinks broken

Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 bison        3955  yacc script uses $* instead of "$@"
 bison        4052  access permissions for /usr/bin/{mkparser, mkparserclass}

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 lrzsz        4075  Possible security problem with lrzsz
 mingetty     3362  Problems encountered while compiling "mingetty" for m68k ar

Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 www.debian   3431  some packages have no information on WWW-server
 www.debian   3700  Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE" ...>

Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosoft.com> (2 bugs):
 nvi          2825  restricted movement in nvi
 nvi          3967  hex codes instead of 8-bit characters

Christian Linhart <chris@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 xarchie       887  xarchie barfs when ftp closes unexpectedly
 xarchie      1275  xarchie clumsy with 2-button mouse

Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> (2 bugs):
 libwww-per   3611  libwww-perl description: no ext
 perl-tk      4068  pgs in perl-tk does not work

Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu.edu> (2 bugs):
 hdparm       2197  hdparm -c switch
 hdparm       3866  "hdparm" requires changes to support multiple arches

Chuck Stickelman <stick@richnet.net> (2 bugs):
 symlinks     3364  Problems encountered while compiling "symlinks" for m68k ar
 symlinks     3614  symlinks description: ext extra spaces

Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 manpages     2861  glob(3) references glob(7); the latter doesn't exist
 manpages     3165  fcntl(2) references nonexistent man pages

Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 grep         3595  grep description: no ext
 strace       2177  "strace -ff -o file dpkg --install foo.deb" causes dpkg to 

dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor) (2 bugs):
 cdtool       2450  `cdir' prints out huge chunks of /etc/passwd !
 unclutter    4042  "unclutter" requires changes for multi-arch support

Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com> (3 bugs):
 sam          4030  "sam" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ucbmpeg      3454  ucbmpeg control file problems
 ucbmpeg      3509  mpeg_play puts bogus statistics on stdout

Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Uni-Mainz.DE> (3 bugs):
 amd          3208  amd bug
 kbd          1901  `compose' keytable command not documented
 kbd          3988  Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard maps.

Christophe Le Bars <clebars@debian.org> (3 bugs):
 xcoral       3654  xcoral description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xcoral       4115  "xcoral" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xtel         4037  "xtel" requires changes for multi-arch support

jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan K. Rabone) (3 bugs):
 trn           825  trn warning messages corrupt thread selector display
 trn          1845  dead.letter and dead.article are world readable
 trn          2298  trn bug with shell escaping

Richard Kettlewell <richard@elmail.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 majordomo    1881  Majordomo UID wrong?
 repair       1532  no revision number with repair
 vm           4031  "vm" requires changes for multi-arch support

mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Nonweiler) (3 bugs):
 ipx          2913  ipx bootup scripts are broken
 ipx          3592  ipx description: no ext
 ncpfs        3630  ncpfs description: summary starts w/ pkg name

sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kleinmann") (3 bugs):
 elviscmn     3562  elviscmn description: no ext
 elvisctags   4016  ref not in elvisctags
 elvisnox     2592  Elvis Compilation Peoblem

Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect.Net> (3 bugs):
 rc           3206  rc terminates on CTRL-C
 rc           3533  Problems encountered while building "rc" on m68k arch
 rc           3607  rc description: no ext

Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz.ch> (3 bugs):
 rsynth       2206  Description
 rsynth       3684  rsynth description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 rsynth       3932  "rsynth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (3 bugs):
 bugs.debia   2296  debian-bugs WWW doesn't say how to find out Debian version
 bugs.debia   2966  bugs2ftp is broken
 bugs.debia   2998  bugs2ftp still flaky

Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vacanti@DeSelby.xs4all.nl> (3 bugs):
 diald        3457  diald control file problems
 diald        3573  diald description: ext start blank line
 diald        4128  ppp/diald interaction

Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> (3 bugs):
 squid        3834  squid core dumps regularly
 tkdesk       3640  tkdesk description: ext start indented
 tkdesk, tk   3842  tkdesksh grows really large

Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 groff        2233  groff-1.09-4
 groff        2970  soelim [in groff] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 groff        4013  groff version is old

Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 lilo         2926  Lilo: can't make documentation
 lilo         3247  Lilo unpack removes boot.b
 lilo         3772  lilo should not depend on MBR
 lilo         3813  (no subject)

Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net> (4 bugs):
 abuse        3963  abuse
 abuse        4096  abuse is still a.out
 apsfilter    3224  apsfilter doesn't configure on a read-only filesystem
 apsfilter    3812  Apsfilter should depend on file

joost witteveen <joostje@master.debian.org> (4 bugs):
 gs           4109  "gs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 gsfonts      1112  a2gs output unusable by gs but usable by ghostview
 gsfonts      3596  gsfonts description: no ext
 gsfonts      3673  gsfonts description: no ext

Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 setserial    2892  setserial marked as Essential when it isn't
 setserial    3638  setserial description: no ext
 setserial    3747  "setserial" doesn't support multiple architectures.
 setserial    3762  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usually hangs machine
 setserial    3800  setserial should not be essential

Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 Umsdos       4067  Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.
 nas          1747  nas: no manpages for au available
 nas          3107  nas postinst could use a warning
 nas          3510  removal of nas doesn't kill 'au' daemon
 umsdos       3885  "umsdos' requires changes to support multiple arches

Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.org> (5 bugs):
 termcap-co    797  /etc/termcap console keydefs for function keys
 termcap-co    836  Possible bugs in termcap system
 termcap-co   1045  tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd)
 termcap-co   1803  /etc/termcap linux definition incomplete
 termcap-co   3721  Problems while compiling "termcap-compat" on m68k arch

debian-devel@pixar.com (5 bugs):
 general      2022  utmp corruption
 general      2481  /sbin/ldconfig in scripts
 general      2717  conffiles in /usr
 general      3066  a.out binaries in various packages
 general      3161  Newbie 1.1beta installation.

Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.net> (5 bugs):
 procmail     3197  wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/procmail
 procmail     3349  Problems encountered while compiling "procmail" for m68k ar
 procmail     3644  procmail description: no ext
 procmail     3705  procmail does close(-1)
 procmail     4092  procmail docs not owned by root

Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at> (5 bugs):
 cnews        3476  cnews description is gibberish
 cnews        3852  "cnews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cnews, ine   3477  cnews and inews should be same package
 inews        3862  "inews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 nntp         3869  "nntp" requires changes to support multiple arches

gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R. Thomas) (5 bugs):
 dld          1488  dld control file dsccription problem
 dld          2209  Description
 dld          2758  dld: missing source file
 dld          3572  dld description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pkg 
 dld          3853  "dld" requires changes to support multiple arches

awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.P. Guy) (6 bugs):
 dchanges     3305  dchanges: urg= override is ignored
 dchanges     3530  dchanges can create bad changes file
 dchanges     3531  dchanges should default to '- -' not 'misc extra'
 dchanges     4003  minor typo in dchanges
 dpkg-ftp     2870  dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug
 dpkg-ftp     2933  dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002

Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu> (6 bugs):
 bdflush      3554  bdflush description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 login        3227  login refuses, and then allows, root login on tty?
 login        3439  Login reconfigures serial port
 login        3775  upgrading login temporarily breaks it
 passwd       3408  Various bugs in passwd manpages
 passwd       3798  passwd should not be essential

dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 workbone     1381  workbone postinst fails
 workbone     1973  workbone postinst needs rewording
 workbone     1984  dpkg won't install cdtool
 workbone     3382  workbone disappears during upgrade
 workbone     3664  workbone description: no ext
 workbone     3888  "workbone" requires changes to support multiple arches

Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wisc.edu> (6 bugs):
 elm          2557  add to elm manpage
 elm          2562  elm manpage paths incorrect
 elm          2789  elm doesn't show rest of pgp-signed message
 elm          2991  nfrm is not installed...
 elm          3042  Elm produces bogus Content-Type header for PGP signed stuff
 elm          3707  Problems encountered while compiling "elm" on m68k arch

Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com> (6 bugs):
 automake     3551  automake description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 dejagnu      3566  dejagnu description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 findutils    1239  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb doesn't exclude cdrom and ot
 findutils    3586  findutils description: no ext
 gwm          3594  gwm description: no ext
 oleo         3631  oleo description: no ext

Erick Branderhorst <branderhorst@heel.fgg.eur.nl> (6 bugs):
 giftrans     3284  giftrans is free
 giftrans     3930  "giftrans" requires changes for multi-arch support
 info          889  Info 3.1-6
 ntgclass     3922  "ntgclass" requires changes for multi-arch support
 untex        4038  "untex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wenglish     3655  wenglish description: no ext

Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu> (6 bugs):
 lxtools      3096  lxtools: user error (misuse of -r and filename) gives cored
 lxtools      3621  lxtools description: no ext
 taper        2891  taper documentation is missing
 taper        3115  taper recommends ftape
 taper        3535  Problems encountered while building "taper" on m68k arch
 taper        3643  taper description: no ext

dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 biff         3915  "biff" requires changes for multi-arch support
 byacc        3361  Problems encountered while compiling "byacc" for m68k arch
 byacc        3567  byacc description: no ext
 xwpe         2486  Ghost packages
 xwpe         3675  xwpe description: no ext
 xwpe         4117  "xwpe" requires changes for multi-arch support

Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca> (7 bugs):
 lclint       3944  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mailx        2009  mailx ignores ^C at Subject prompt
 mailx        2010  mailx misses VM-generated From_ lines
 mailx        2284  mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends mail !
 mailx        2356  mailx -- problems with TMPDIR symlink
 mailx        2733  /usr/bin/mail leaves lock files when disk full
 mailx        2971  mailx doesn't quit on two successive C-c

Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> (7 bugs):
 ae           3795  ae should not be essential
 ae           3946  "zyxel" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ae           4111  "wg15-locale" requires changes for multi-arch support
 pine         2365  Pine erases message before I can read it
 pine         2367  Pine supplies PATH line when posting news
 pine         3253  Pine over-encodes files (came from Bug#932)
 pine         4059  public readable editor-backups in pine

Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk> (7 bugs):
 xcompat      3246  Cant load library libXt.so.6
 xcontrib     1981  xman fails to format ascii(7) correctly
 xcontrib     3857  listres dumps core
 xcontrib     3954  xload dont needs tu run suid
 xcontrib     4036  "xcontrib" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcontrib     4087  xgc dumps core
 xtrlock      4041  "xtrlock" requires changes for multi-arch support

Guy Maor <maor@debian.org> (7 bugs):
 debianutil   3122  run-parts should ignore RCS
 debianutil   3511  typo on installkernel man page
 ftp.debian   1672  non-free packages
 ftp.debian   3529  libgr and zlib1 collide, but don't conflict!
 ftp.debian   3810  linux.ucs.indiana.edu is no longer a mirror
 util-linux   3259  [c]fdisk does not recognize NEXTSTEP partitions
 util-linux   3777  mkfs.minix option parsing oddities

Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@marin.fdn.fr> (7 bugs):
 apache       2802  apache tweaks
 apache       2812  Apache server: SECURITY HOLE
 apache       2934  Some cgi scripts don't work
 apache       3384  apache leaves /var/log/httpd non-empty
 apache       3470  apache problems
 apache       3940  Apache's default index.html says "CERN"
 apache       3969  Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole

Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> (7 bugs):
 dlltools     3578  dlltools description: no ext
 xpaint       3475  xpaint Recommends pbmplus
 xpaint       3699  xpaint description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xpaint       4116  "xpaint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xterm-colo   2353  postrm script broken
 xterm-colo   2710  colour xterm has problems when resizing
 xterm-colo   4105  making slrn work in a color xterm

Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org> (8 bugs):
 adduser      1711  adduser replaces NIS entries in /etc/passwd
 adduser      2309  Multiple root accounts
 adduser      3490  adduser password-setting problem
 adduser      3794  adduser should not be essential
 adduser      3861  when adduser runs finger it display all users mathcing the 
 adduser      3878  adduser --home aborts if dir exists; man page implies other
 adduser      3879  adduser: man page has '=V' strings
 adduser? m   1708  `passwd' not interruptible when invoked by `adduser'

Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.eas.asu.edu> (8 bugs):
 auto-pgp     2211  Description
 auto-pgp     3216  auto-pgp doesn't remove info entry when removed
 auto-pgp     3680  auto-pgp description: ext start indented
 auto-pgp     3917  "auto-pgp" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dosemu       1791  dosemu troubles
 dosemu       3671  dosemu description: no ext
 dosemu       4048  access permissions for /usr/bin/dos
 dosemu       4053  a) still a.out b) script: i have no 2nd floppy

Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de> (9 bugs):
 netstd       3980  netstd many compiler warnings
 netstd       4007  identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured
 netstd       4086  rsh segfaults with baudrate=115200
 netstd       4091  Ftp does not wait for user answers on mget
 netstd       4094  Finger information incomplete
 netstd       4098  problems with talk
 netstd       4120  rdist & ssh
 netstd       4132  Could popclient be changed to just read the passwd from std
 tcpdump      3742  tcpdump doesn't notice icmp packets on PPP interface

joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org> (9 bugs):
 gnuplot      3587  gnuplot description: no ext
 pixmap       3962  Pixmap "calloc" problem
 pixmap       4100  pixmap dumps core (bad depth?)
 xosview      3385  xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (again)
 xosview      3737  xosview uses -O3 -f...
 xosview      3873  Xosview hangs when a dummy net device is in the kernel.
 xosview      4033  "xosview" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xosview      4081  xosview doesn't install a binary
 xosview      4118  xosview doesn't use XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de> (10 bugs):
 at           2475  `at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format
 cfingerd     3250  cfingerd descriptive text
 cfingerd     3433  weird output if cfingerd.conf: NO_PLAN = ""
 cfingerd     3791  Problems with "cfingerd" when compiling on m68k arch
 dbview       3565  dbview description: ext extra spaces
 gpm          2874  gpm will not work if the system is setup for a serial conso
 gpm          3280  (no subject)
 gpm          3373  gpm -k hangs if X server running on console
 rman         3304  [rman] Off-by-one in generated HTML
 xfractint    3186  Can't chdir

Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.north.de> (10 bugs):
 smail        1481  smail paniclog suggestion
 smail        1693  forwarded message from Harald T. Alvestrand
 smail        1799  smail nameresloving problems
 smail        1929  aliasinclude and forwardinclude directors missing
 smail        2348  Smail fails to define NO_PETER_HONEYMAN
 smail        2423  scattered sendmail links
 smail        3046  Smail configuration problem?
 smail        3164  runq dumps core
 smail        3366  Problems encountered while compiling "smail" for m68k arch
 smail        3497  smail calls obsolete yp_order

Steve Greenland <stevegr@master.debian.org> (10 bugs):
 cern-httpd   3124  CERN httpd sends useless cron mail
 cern-httpd   3327  cern-httpd postinst hangs if daemon configured for inetd
 cern-httpd   3370  httpdconfig installs Welcome.html even if index.html exists
 cern-httpd   3467  cern-httpd curious message
 cern-httpd   3486  forwarded message from Cron Daemon
 cern-httpd   3735  cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn on redirect
 cern-httpd   3850  "cern-httpd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cron         1681  Missing files
 cron         3047  cron script problem?
 cron         3876  checksecurity shouldn't search ncpfs/smbfs filesystems

Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com> (10 bugs):
 gawk         3328  Problems encountered while compiling "gawk" for m68k arch
 mawk         3542  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3544  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3617  mawk description: ext extra spaces
 most         2205  Description
 most         3158  most differs from man page
 most         3620  most description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 npasswd-bo   3804  npasswd-boulder doesn't change NIS passwds
 npasswd_bo   3495  doesn't respect nis/yp
 slang-deve   3645  slang-devel description: ext extra spaces

Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian.org> (11 bugs):
 bc           3727  Problems encountered while compiling "bc" for m68k arch.
 bsdmainuti   3782  GNU nm breaks lorder
 bsdutils      988  `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity
 bsdutils     3815  "ndc stats" fails 
 ed           3726  Problems encountered while compiling "ed" for m68k arch.
 fvwm         3437  fvwm should not recommend fvwm2
 fvwm         3748  Pixmaps missing from fvwm package?
 fvwm         4082  No documentation for fvwm modules
 fvwm2        3407  fvwm2: WindowList infelicity
 fvwm2        4099  typo in fvwm2 man page
 xcal         3292  xcal app-defaults shouldn't be conffiles

Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresden.de> (11 bugs):
 genscript    3169  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papersize
 linuxdoc-s   3180  linuxdoc-sgml semantics and formatting problems
 linuxdoc-s   3317  linuxdoc-sgml info files are missing all ftp names...
 lpr           902  lpr can't print a PostScript file ?!
 lpr          1061  /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man5/printcap.5
 lpr          2556  "\031\1"
 lpr          3038  SOLVED: can't remove print jobs
 lpr          3156  lpr and smail uuname returned -1
 lpr, magic   3075  lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts failed
 rcs          2302  RCS - problems with msdos filesystems
 seyon        2701  seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't work

daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (David P. Boswell) (11 bugs):
 shellutils    821  /bin/echo doesn't check write errors
 shellutils   1164  who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp
 shellutils   1560  `su' produces incomplete log entries when not in ordinary s
 shellutils   1616  'who' can't find utmp
 shellutils   2068  su doesn't su.
 shellutils   2292  date does not support dates past 2000 !
 shellutils   2345  Inclusion of shadow breaks up some packages in the current 
 shellutils   2959  date + bug
 shellutils   3087  Bug in date.
 shellutils   3359  Problems encountered while compiling "sh-utils" for m68k ar
 shellutils   3609  shellutils description: no ext

Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org> (11 bugs):
 man          2969  zsoelim [in man] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 man          3098  man-2.3.10-11 segfaults
 man          3109  man 9menu unpleasant
 man          3220  apropos dumps core
 man          3725  Another data point on apropos segfaulting.
 man          3739  `man -l -' for stdin doesn't work
 man          3766  "man" acting too smart.
 man          3788  `apropos' matches only word-substrings even in page names
 man          3939  /etc/manpath.config is not a conffile.
 ppp          3808  ppp postinst gives error
 ppp          4121  ppp setup bug (postinst?)

jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson, Jim) (12 bugs):
 idanish      3670  idanish description: no ext
 idanish      3913  "idanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wfrench      3687  wfrench description: no ext
 wfrench      3927  "wfrench" requires changes for multi-arch support
 witalian     3691  witalian description: no ext
 witalian     3923  "witalian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wnorwegian   3688  wnorwegian description: no ext
 wnorwegian   3912  "wnorwegian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wspanish     3698  wspanish description: no ext
 wspanish     3926  "wspanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wswedish     3682  wswedish description: no ext
 wswedish     3928  "wswedish" requires changes for multi-arch support

Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.edu> (13 bugs):
 auctex       4021  "auctex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mh-papers    3613  mh-papers description: no ext
 netpbm       3712  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands
 netpbm       3717  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands 
 netpbm       3743  Problems encountered while compiling "netpbm" on m68k arch
 netpbm       3792  Problems with "netpbm" when compiling on m68k arch
 netpbm       3975  netpbm is mostly free
 netpbm       4014  netpbm is missing manual pages
 term         3714  Problems encountered while compiling 'term' on m68k arch
 xless        3773  xless default window too thin and won't go away when asked 
 xless        4027  "xless" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xpaste       4046  "xpaste" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xv           3837  Why isn't xv linked with the libgr libraries ?

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lot49.med.miami.edu> (15 bugs):
 mh           2334  MH scan -width dumps core
 mh           2346  MH can lose mail
 mh           2648  
 mh           2661  dist and mh both have a dist manpage
 ncurses-ba   2863  dselect and ncurses in select window
 ncurses-ba   3163  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 ncurses-ba   3843  dselect resets automargins in xterm and vt220, not console
 ncurses-bi   2076  reset(1)
 ncurses-bi   2474  /usr/bin/reset does the wrong thing
 ncurses-bi   3191  reset(1) doesn't bring an xterm out of alt charset mode
 ncurses-bi   3192  tset(1) man page problem
 ncurses-bi   3829  tic.1 refers to unavailable infotocap command.
 ncurses-bi   3830  captoinfo confused by /etc/termcap entries
 ncurses-bi   3973  Home/End keys don't work right in nvi
 ncurses-te   2158  new ncurses bug ?

Erick Branderhorst <branderh@debian.org> (16 bugs):
 fileutils    4006  Fileutils has /usr/libexec directory
 fileutils    4119  chgrp not detecting error, causing unpredictable results
 glibcdoc     2906  Inconsistency in libc.info re snprintf
 hyperlatex   4071  ps2gif has incorrect pathname
 idutch       3672  idutch description: no ext
 idutch       3931  "idutch" requires changes for multi-arch support
 latex        3415  Xdvi and postscript fonts
 latex        3832  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        3835  Problem with Latex installation
 latex,xdvi   2054  no subject (file transmission)
 mathpad      2231  mathpad problems
 mathpad      3312  installation and startup problems with mathpad
 mflib        2185  texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?
 mflib        3323  MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk
 wdutch       3697  wdutch description: no ext
 wdutch       3914  "wdutch" requires changes for multi-arch support

Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.org> (17 bugs):
 acm          1366  acm networking problems
 acm          3548  acm description: no ext
 acm          3849  "acm" requires changes to support multiple arches
 aout-librl   3553  aout-librl description: no ext
 pmake        3629  pmake description: no ext
 pmake        3793  bsd.lib.mk incompatible with GNU ar
 rootdisk     2945  Bus Error given by rootdisk
 rootdisk     3142  1.1 installation and large partitions
 rootdisk     3147  May 19 boot floppies...
 rootdisk     3272  bug in root disks...
 rootdisk     3420  Boot disk creats corrupted filesystems in some situations
 rootdisk     3451  Missing label 'llseek' in e2fsck - rootdisk
 rootdisk     3488  basedisks modconf problems
 rootdisk     3489  basedisks configuration problems
 rootdisk     3491  basedisks newly booted system problems
 rootdisk     3892  mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbol 'llseek'
 rootdisk     3968  installation checks for CD-ROM too often

Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> (17 bugs):
 inn          2112  Submission for INN doc file
 inn          2220  INN feed password interacts badly with trn XMODE READER
 inn          2822  Some minor glitches with the inn package
 inn          3153  inn ctlinnd not readable/executable, but /var/run/innd is !
 inn          3459  inn should Depend on inewsinn, not contain it
 inn          3462  INN postinst and configuration problems
 inn          3517  innd won't remove syslog.conf lines when purged
 inn          3950  INN message size limitation to 350K does not work
 minicom      3601  minicom description: no ext
 nis          3632  nis description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 nis          3833  Manual pages for some yp* programs in nis
 sysvinit     2439  rc?.d scripts sometimes not run
 sysvinit     2796  sysvinit makes obsolete symbolic link
 sysvinit     2908  mesg sets wrong permissions on /dev/ttyp*
 sysvinit     3130  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3140  /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bugs
 sysvinit     3143  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet

dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silber) (18 bugs):
 dbackup      1406  backup postrm can fail when it shouldn't
 fortune      1118  fortune is setuid games ?!
 fortune      3213  fortune need libc.so.4
 fortune      3571  fortune description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 fortune      3818  fortune is still a.out !
 fortune      3855  "fortune" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         1265  Misc. uucp bugs
 uucp         2198  uuxqt can't execute rmail
 uucp         2293  uucp should compress big files in /usr/doc/uucp
 uucp         2810  uucp postrm should use -f flag to rm
 uucp         3112  UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and does not create it)
 uucp         3503  still a.out (and src doesn't build binary *.deb out of the 
 uucp         3711  Problems encountered while compiling "uucp" on m68k arch
 uucp         3816  uucp is still a.out
 uucp         3890  "uucp" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         3936  uutraf dumps core in gmtime()
 uucp         3937  uutraf has repeated words in messages and is not explicit
 uucp         4127  uucp uses /usr/spool

Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.superlink.net> (19 bugs):
 mc           2823  mc segfaults on reconnect of ftpfs
 mc           3128  mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1
 mc           3245  mc should depend on gpm
 mc           3521  mc core dumps
 mc           3547  Problems encountered while compiling "mc" on m68k arch
 mc (Midnig   2242  mc should depend on ncurses3.0
 timezone     2167  timezone zdump for US zones gives GMT instead of local time
 timezone     2169  timezone zdump utility should be able to dump files
 timezone     2170  timezone: it needs more documentation
 timezone     2171  timezone: how to determine zone setting?
 timezone     2275  ctime(3) should be replaced by newctime(3)
 timezone     2671  timezone Mexico/General doesn't switch to DST
 timezone     2682  Zoneinfo library has a name-clash with compression library
 timezone     2785  Timezone has static library?
 timezone     3084  missing timezones
 timezone     3363  Problems encountered while compiling "timezone" for m68k ar
 timezone     3647  timezone description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 timezone     3799  timezone should not be essential
 timezone?,   2942  Wrong timezone for Europe/Warsaw?

David Engel <david@ods.com> (20 bugs):
 aout-binut   3552  aout-binutils description: no ext
 binutils     1108  No manpage ar(5)
 binutils     1303  `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete
 binutils     2161  elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld can be made to segfault
 binutils     3574  binutils description: no ext
 dialog       2591  rootdisk
 dialog       3514  Required package modconf depends on extra package dialog
 gcc          2493  GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied external ref to static functio
 gcc          2909  GCC Info has funny formatting
 gcc          2910  GCC accepts multi-line strings without \ or " " &c
 gcc          3330  Problems encountered while compiling "gcc" for m68k arch
 gcc          3838  GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it
 gcc          4011  simple c++ program segfaults
 gdb           660  GDB gets address of structure member wrong in memory breakp
 gdb          3515  gdb prints corrupted message
 gdb          3599  gdb description: no ext
 gdb          3823  Gdb's `handle' command behaviour differs from doc.
 snmp         3731  snmpd: patch for hrProcessorLoad MIB variable
 tkined       4044  "tkined" requires changes for multi-arch support
 tkman        2884  tkman doesn't use /var/catman

Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org> (21 bugs):
 bind         2530  bind locks up system
 bind         2819  named loses (in an easily fixed way) on 1.2.13 kernels
 bind         3478  bind should use lowercase `none' in postinst
 bind         3505  ndc does not use start-stop-daemon
 bind         3507  named postinst mangled my configuration
 bind         3966  nslookup: fatal flex scanner internal error--end of buffer 
 ddd-smotif   3307  ddd-smotif does not replace ddd
 deliver      3319  deliver does not set exit codes as expected by sendmail
 maelstrom    3287  (no subject)
 motifnls     4028  "motifnls" requires changes for multi-arch support
 motifnls     4130  Old motif applications don't run
 mount        2304  umount calls gethostbyname() at consequence
 mount        3993  users can't umount user mounts
 sendmail     3151  Sendmail runs too late
 sendmail     3752  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3753  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3754  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3756  sendmail has wrong path to procmail
 sendmail     4064  sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend
 sendmail     4065  FEATURE(local_procmail) needs manual override to /usr/bin
 sendmail     4085  /etc/init.d/sendmail does not stop and restart correctly

Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connect.net> (26 bugs):
 kernel       1707  image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o
 kernel       1744  dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/
 kernel       1759  running out of swap causes deadlock
 kernel       1914  general protection in unix_proto_connect
 kernel       1922  1.3.43 Kernel is too nice
 kernel       1962  kernel needs sbpcd.h editing in some cases
 kernel       1989  mmap bug?
 kernel       2063  scsi driver sequence unreasonable
 kernel       2064  aha1740 driver only supports one card
 kernel       2105  console error messages "Source Route Failed."
 kernel       2463  "msdos" filesystem needed for bootstrapping
 kernel       2470  in kernel Attached ether adapter driver interferes with lp 
 kernel       2692  kernel swap space problem
 kernel       2940  image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape device
 kernel       3019  no 386 support in kernel_image 1.3.100
 kernel       3040  Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel not compatible with my SB16 c
 kernel       3106  v 1.1 beta kernel image not for i386
 kernel       3195  "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fails due to missing "serial" mod
 kernel       3258  pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug
 kernel       3265  kernel-image and PS/2 mouse problem
 kernel       3268  network modules don't work with kernel 
 kernel       3275  dpkg --no-act leaves control info in /tmp
 kernel       3393  printer-driver problem in kernel 1.99.7
 kernel       3397  (no subject)
 kernel       3516  SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can cause major corruption
 kernel       3999  nfs module fails to load

Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au> (28 bugs):
 lynx         2067  lynx -source can't find documents
 lynx         2295  (no subject)
 lynx         2946  Lynx gives fatal error message
 lynx         2964  lynx -dump fails through proxy
 lynx         2965  lynxexec not compiled into lynx.
 lynx         3105  lynx access to dot files is disabled
 lynx         3386  lynx version number changes
 lynx         3469  lynx default home page
 lynx         3606  lynx description: ext extra spaces
 lynx         3846  lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> in <dl>
 lynx         3875  Lynx thinks *.deb files are "text/plain".
 lynx         4005  Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *.deb problem.
 mandelspaw   3176  mandelspawn slave problems
 rxvt         2510  rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts
 rxvt         2989  rxvt source bug
 rxvt         4032  "rxvt" requires changes for multi-arch support
 samba        4133  Samba goes into busy loop?
 tcsh          820  tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 tcsh         3396  tcsh doesn't provide c-shell
 tcsh, csh    3466  tcsh, csh should use update-alternatives, not diversions
 tf           2547  tf does not support visual mode
 tf           3886  "tf" requires changes to support multiple arches
 xntp         2051  /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handled conffile
 xntp         2982  xntp calls ntpdate at start
 xtron        1703  xtron documentation
 ytalk        2196  ytalk `shell' option can't run dpkg
 ytalk        2575  ytalk lies about who you are talking to
 ytalk        2699  ytalk doesn't use FQDNs

Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com> (28 bugs):
 arrl-infos   2737  arrl-infoserv: missing source file
 arrl-infos   3677  arrl-infoserv description: no ext
 ash          2604  ash: cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal sign
 ash          3056  ash-source contains objects
 ash          3718  Problems encountered while compiling "ash" on m68k arch.
 boot-flopp    998  Can't Configure DOS Partitions
 boot-flopp   1032  Linux Counter Project Info Not Included
 boot-flopp   1372  rootdisk: no dvorak keytable
 boot-flopp   2569  bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdomainname?
 boot-flopp   2738  Installing Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2739  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2740  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2850  nfs.o isn't loaded in clean debian 1.1 nfs install
 boot-flopp   3031  various boot-floppies nits
 boot-flopp   3064  need a pointer in /usr/doc/boot-floppies
 boot-flopp   3121  boot-floppies doesn't have basedisks.sh
 boot-flopp   3575  boot-floppies description: no ext
 mbr          3789  `mbr' package doesn't say how to install/use it
 modconf      3628  modconf description: no ext
 modconf      3740  A couple of problems popped up while using "modconf"
 pcb          3413  linked with aout libXaw
 pcb          3635  pcb description: no ext
 pcb          3872  "pcb" requires changes to support multiple arches
 pcb          4026  "pcb" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rspfd        3881  "rspfd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 syslinux     2774  syslinux: missing source file
 syslinux     3642  syslinux description: no ext
 syslinux     4004  procinfo breaks without modules

Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com> (30 bugs):
 bash          818  bash builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 bash         1009  bash problem with quoting/completioon
 bash         1549  bash should not have world-readable history
 bash         1624  thermal run away problem
 bash         1702  telnet+su root->thermal process
 bash         1714  bash is confused when breaking lines
 bash         1746  rsh <system> sh -i produces CPU hog
 bash         1834  [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: /etc/profile on Debian Linux
 bash         2110  Bash tab completion of non alphanumeric characters
 bash         2265  bash `horizontal scroll' can't be turned off
 bash         2301  bash doesn't document any way to safely create tmp file
 bash         2362  bash (readline) dumps core on completion
 bash         2818  bash doesn't provide enough docs
 bash         2856  fd leak in bash
 bash         3174  set -i doesn't work in bash
 bash         3177  sh -nc <command> actually runs command (!)
 bash         3353  Problems encountered while compiling "bash" for m68k arch
 bash         3538  bash on m68k doesn't use ncurses termcap emulation
 bash         3561  bash description: no ext
 bash         4134  sh can't handle perlrun trick
 beav         3558  beav description: ext extra spaces
 git          3543  Problems encountered while compiling "git" for m68k arch
 git          3588  git description: ext extra spaces
 guile        3052  guile is missing slib.info.gz
 guile        3223  guile installs entry for slib, but no info file
 guile        3508  guile doesn't have right permissions on /usr/include/guile/
 netatalk     2542  No default config files?
 netatalk     2690  netatalk: a few small problems
 python       3442  python postinst is very verbose
 xasteroids   4114  "xasteroids" requires changes for multi-arch support

Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> (31 bugs):
 autoconf     3839  autoconf wants `nawk'
 cvs          3374  CVS wrappers can't be turned off
 cvs          3970  cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1
 cvs          4008  CVS texinfo docs won't format correctly with TeX
 cvs          4024  "cvs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 emacs        1879  Emacs shell mode weirdness - looks like C code bug
 emacs        2183  emacs shouldn't touch /usr/local
 emacs        2235  emacs eats manual pages
 emacs        2267  emacs ange ftp fails
 emacs        2318  Emacs makes it hard for MTAs to do the right thing
 emacs        2392  Emacs mishandles fonts under X.
 emacs        2417  emacs inferior process buffers failing
 emacs        2431  Emacs mishandles X fonts.
 emacs        2476  emacs mucks up my email address
 emacs        2477  annoying bug in emacs
 emacs        2478  ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd
 emacs        2479  ange-ftp is incredibly inefficient
 emacs        2532  Emacs fails to use `set -e' in postinst
 emacs        2630  emacs package needs to break ctags-related files out separa
 emacs        2634  emacs hung
 emacs        2709  emacs should list /usr/lib/emacs/19.30/lisp/default.el as a
 emacs        2714  Emacs and XEmacs share files
 emacs        2731  emacs with gud creates ~/.terminfo/e/emacs
 emacs        2829  emacs: gdb says: slashes aren't allowed (/etc/termcap)
 emacs        3119  emacs font handling
 emacs        3179  emacs ctags segfaults
 emacs        3241  derived.el fails in emacs
 emacs        3400  gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-19.31-2
 emacs        4000  emacs can't initialize x window
 emacs        4107  emacs leaves stale lockfiles and publishes pathnames
 emacs-el     3569  emacs-el description: no ext

Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> (32 bugs):
 ghostview    1451  `ghostviewR6' conflict with ghostview &c
 ghostview    2200  Description
 ghostview    3598  ghostview description: ext start indented
 ghostview    3759  xxgdb and ghostview have bad Maintainer field
 ghostview    4088  ghostview does not put filename in window title
 ghostview    4104  ghostview does not obey %BoundingBox: and other DSC commen
 procps       1016  top has 3's in vt100
 procps       1176  /usr/bin/top segfault with unknown terminal
 procps       1240  ps(1) man page incomplete
 procps       1246  ps man page does not agree with implementation
 procps       1336  CFLAGS shouldn't be used when linking
 procps       1533  `w' produces bogus login@, idle time &c for xdm login entry
 procps       1713  procps: manpage doesn't tell the truth
 procps       1853  top fails after 130 processes?
 procps       1908  Top and tabs
 procps       1933  w from procps gives wrong idle times
 procps       2159  "ps pids" lists more than just pids
 procps       2402  ps no longer understands `g' option
 procps       2427  top d 60 fails
 procps       2460  bizarre output from `free'
 procps       2520  procps needs dependency on ncurses3.0
 procps       2721  free fails to understand recent kernels' /proc/meminfo
 procps       2728  top coredump
 procps       2841  top produces `$<3>' at end of each line !
 procps       2938  libproc is in wrong place
 procps       3080  error message in syslog caused by ps
 procps       3102  top has problems when not on console
 procps       3260  psupdate man page out of date
 procps       3350  Problems encountered while compiling "procps" for m68k arch
 procps       3989  `w' produces corrupted output
 procps       4062  running ps as root does not report controlling ttys correct
 xxgdb        3678  xxgdb description: no ext

Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (37 bugs):
 dpkg          957  dpkg should automatically log everything
 dpkg         1037  dselect user interface (was Re: debian 0.93pl5 installation
 dpkg         1399  dselect error handling not consistent
 dpkg         1480  start-stop-daemon doesn't check process status
 dpkg         1526  man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect
 dpkg         1555  dselect per-screen-half focus request
 dpkg         1642  dpkg recursive package listing doesn't do the right thing
 dpkg         1670  start-stop-daemon is too slow
 dpkg         1797  upgrade/downgrade dependency calculation problem
 dpkg         1818  configure ordering based on Recommends
 dpkg         1921  update-alternatives prompt, dpkg conffile show diff
 dpkg         2531  install-info should use better locking strategy
 dpkg         2536  dpkg inappropriately marks packages as installed
 dpkg         2576  base: selecting [A]ccess with dselect
 dpkg         2603  dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when installing xterm-color
 dpkg         2664  arrow keys fail in dselect not just after search ?
 dpkg         2828  have to install xosview twice to work
 dpkg         2834  desect loses state if it can't find a pre-dependancy
 dpkg         2894  dpkg guidelines info files not recognized
 dpkg         2904  install-info doesn't cope with nonexistent /usr/info/dir fi
 dpkg         2911  Conffiles are deleted too late ? (Re: Bug#2701: seyon: dpkg
 dpkg         2929  dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.
 dpkg         2939  Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction
 dpkg         2973  install-info created 5 Development sections in my /usr/info
 dpkg         3125  bug (and correction) in dpkg-1.1.6 scripts/install-info.pl
 dpkg         3170  again dpkg --root=xxx
 dpkg         3218  install-info adds Miscellaneous section badly
 dpkg         3225  dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems from 1.0.17
 dpkg         3233  dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2nd
 dpkg         3406  dselect unreadable under xterm
 dpkg         3410  some problems/bugs/suggestions with install-info
 dpkg         3704  Weird dselect behavior (bug?)
 dpkg         3765  dpkg and kernel-* package names
 dpkg         3991  dselect has confusing and bizarre interface
 dpkg         4074  problems with 1.1 release
 dpkg         4122  update-rc.d failed
 pgp-i        3545  Problems encountered while compiling "pgp" on m68k arch

Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org> (40 bugs):
 mkisofs      3480  missing information in manpage
 mkisofs      3539  mkisofs stops if an error occurs
 mkisofs      3540  mkisofs stops if a problem occurs
 mkisofs      3703  mkisofs stops if a permission problem occurs
 xbase         725  twm places windows incorrectly
 xbase         740  xclock leaves `droppings' in its window
 xbase         773  xmh falls over if mh is not installed
 xbase         775  twm reports errors on incorrect line numbers
 xbase        1621  Xmark has no manpage
 xbase        1690  XDM protection fault on X config error
 xbase        1691  X config allows invalid numeric range
 xbase        1819  X11 doesn't set a lock on the mouse port
 xbase        1985  xdm won't redirect to remote machines.
 xbase        2243  xterm vanishes when it's big (some escape sequence?)
 xbase        2297  xterm gets mouse-paste and RETURN in wrong order
 xbase        2313  xterm keymapping problems suspected
 xbase        2360  xdm cannot find a free VT
 xbase        3026  xbase et al postinst doesn't flush stdout
 xbase        3073  xbase contains imake and xmkmf without their config files
 xbase        3095  xbase kills xdm and *then* asks (politely, but belatedly)
 xbase        3162  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 xbase        3267  Unqualified hostnames in rstart
 xbase        3395  can't login via xdm
 xbase        3730  improper lookup of window managers by /etc/X11/Xsession
 xbase        3751  xconsole stops logging when syslogd is hupped
 xbase        3906  Errors in the Compose file for ISO-LATIN1
 xbase        3990  xdm-errors location not what FSSTND says
 xbase        4012  xbase: `window-managers' was un-correctly generated
 xbase        4015  xterm & xterm.color sets broken TERMCAP
 xbase et a   3734  X11 problems
 xbase?       3110  X servers muck up xdm when uninstalled
 xfntbig      3650  xfntbig description: no ext
 xfntcyr      3610  xfntcyr description: no ext
 xfntscl      3663  xfntscl description: no ext
 xlib         3661  xlib description: no ext
 xmanpages    3308  X(1) manpage in wrong place?
 xmanpages    4124  typo in XtOpenApplication manpage
 xserver-sv   1292  X locks up
 xserver-sv   3300  xserver-svga configuration
 xslib        3662  xslib description: no ext

Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-net.de> (44 bugs):
 amstex       3550  amstex description: no ext
 bibtex       2037  bibtex not searching $TEXINPUTS
 bibtex, kp   1429  several TeX packages Provide themselves
 dviljk       3198  dviljk is still aout! :-(
 dviljk       3202  dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! :-(
 dviljk       3458  dviljk missing prompt for input
 dvipsk       1873  dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize!
 dvipsk       2104  dvips doesn't provide color
 dvipsk       2357  dvipsk generated PS causes `restore error'
 kpathsea     1858  kpathsea package does not install or maintain an ls-R datab
 kpathsea     1865  cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
 kpathsea     2027  tiny bug in web2c debian.rules
 kpathsea     3921  "kpathsea" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxtool      1771  Legal problems with ltxtool
 ltxtool lt   1502  Uniform lists in debian.control
 makeindex    4047  "makeindex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mfbin        1686  psfonts.map can't be found
 mfbin        1934  font scaling problem
 mfbin        2972  MetaFONT linked against X libraries
 mfbin        3077  gray font .mf files missing from MFBIN
 mgetty       3372  mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax script
 mgetty       3896  /sbin/mgetty is not world-readable
 mgetty       3897  mgetty syslogs with priority `emerg'
 mgetty       3898  mgetty has bogus errno in usage message
 mgetty       3899  mgetty doesn't remove logfiles when purged
 mgetty       3900  mgetty doesn't work
 mgetty, ne   3895  file conflicts: mgetty vs netpbm
 psnfss       3135  psnfss has no Architecture field
 texbin       1647  dpkg can present incorrect info for virtual packages.
 texbin       1653  Missing dvicopy(1) man page.
 texbin       1663  TeX comes without configuration script
 texbin       1664  TeX is lacking documentation on the setup
 texbin       1823  texbin postinst failed with error 1, no message
 texbin       2023  latex dumps core on -QUIT
 texbin       2038  tex man page has unexpanded macros in it
 texbin       2621  unstable/texbin install fails
 texlib       2186  national hyphenation patterns
 texpsfnt     2764  texpsfnt: missing source file
 textfm, te   3468  textfm and texlib file conflicts
 xbmbrowser   3050  xbmbrowser man page installed as xbmbrowser.man
 xbmbrowser   4035  "xbmbrowser" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xdvik        2122  xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat convention
 xdvik        2803  xdvi does not handle redraws of includedEPS files correctly
 xearth       4043  "xearth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com> (48 bugs):
 compface     3845  invalid directories in compface package
 less         3336  Problems encountered while compiling "less" for m68k arch
 less         3616  less description: ext extra spaces
 less         3952  Less annoyances
 patch        3348  Problems encountered while compiling "patch" for m68k arch
 perl         1099  perl bug
 perl         1170  perl fails to make headers first time...
 perl         1201  perl doesn't know about includes
 perl         1247  perl <...> globbing only works if (t)csh installed
 perl         1411  perlconfig misses an opportunity to use xargs
 perl         1856  creating perl header files
 perl         1916  perl: wrong entries in Config.pm
 perl         1972  perl should suggest kernel sources
 perl         2182  perl shouldn't touch /usr/local
 perl         2184  perl's sys/socket.ph causes warning
 perl         2241  Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and LC_* poorly
 perl         2251  Perl coredumps while invoking adduser
 perl         2254  perl doesn't initialize variable to 0 or something
 perl         2405  perl postinst messages re unctrl.h
 perl         2440  sys/socket.ph produces spurious message
 perl         2495  perl requires tcsh (as it is currently configured)
 perl         2501  (no subject)
 perl         2502  configure fails if /vmlinuz is missing
 perl         2589  perl can't load libdb.so.1
 perl         2590  new revision of perl does not include suidperl
 perl         2593  perl tries to install in /usr/local
 perl         2658  Errors during perlconfig
 perl         2691  new perl break suid scripts
 perl         3093  Perl dumps core
 perl         3212  Perl recommends nonexistent packages
 perl         3230  why the hell does perl depend on tcsh???
 perl         3242  perl's dependencies are wrong
 perl         3277  nit: perl setup emits a \n
 perl         3283  /usr/bin/perlconfig should be in /usr/sbin
 perl         3295  perls debian.rules doesn't work
 perl         3296  /bin/perl is not updated
 perl         3423  Problems installing kernel sources and sudo
 perl         3434  pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cut/=pod/=item not handled corr
 perl         3770  dodgy `\n' in perl postinst
 perl         3784  perl does not install on base 1.1
 perl         3785  perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") and "mirror"
 perl         3803  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3814  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3847  Perl & G++
 perl         3874  Archive of perl 5.003-2 is broken
 perl         3908  perl h2ph problem
 xemacs       2689  (no subject)
 xemacs       2839  Xemacs problems

Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> (57 bugs):
 base         1699  Install/Config quirks: Missing secondary DNS server, NIS se
 base         1742  /dev/tty has wrong permissions
 base         1855  packages adding entries to /etc/group
 base         1885  base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create higher ttys
 base         1954  setting up the network
 base         1955  base discs still aren't creating /var/log/news
 base         2001  Incorrect ownership of audio device files
 base         2070  /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net
 base         2524  problems with base package
 base         2538  audio devices have different group id than audio group
 base         2688  base: wrong group for rft* devices
 base         2741  First booting with Debian 1.1
 base         2840  Conflicting entries in login/group
 base         2889  no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 boot-disk
 base         2895  base -- incorrect passwd entry for 'gnats'
 base         2920  incorrect entry for nobody in recent "base" package
 base         2927  /usr/info/dir in base confuses install-info
 base         2928  nobody has wrong login shell
 base         2975  [base] missing /dev entries
 base         2978  May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[345]: wtmp /var/log/wtmp No su
 base         3002  majordomo has conflicting group id
 base         3027  updatedb can't run properly
 base         3036  automatic adduser/addgroup in postinst (was Re: fingerd)
 base         3039  MAKEDEV script does not create the random/urandom devices
 base         3070  base copyright string
 base         3149  upgrading base truncates utmp
 base         3183  permissions problems with /var/lib/games
 base         3231  /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not present
 base         3252  base template /usr/info/dir malformed
 base         3314  On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.boot/0serial way too optimisti
 base         3315  Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on 11-6 disks
 base         3387  base leaves /tmp/base.postinst lying around
 base         3409  Could not make boot floppy
 base         3421  /tmp installs wrongly
 base         3493  Teles ISDN card installation buglets
 base         3557  base description: no ext
 base         3761  LILO installation problem
 base         3786  base includes anonymous ftp account
 base         3805  /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as 'idsn'
 base         3809  /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still around
 base         3902  base disks' network configuration oddities
 base         3905  base disks still install part packages
 base         3983  Wrong entry in /etc/group
 base         3994  ae won't deinstall
 base         4002  base wipes out utmp & wtmp
 base         4009  /bin/edit causes error after ae removed
 base         4020  Base shouldn't contain /var/run/utmp
 base         4089  problems with rc.local
 base         4131  majordom -- 30 or 31?
 base, ae     3146  1.1 installation: ae doesn't work
 bootdisk     2937  Copyright message function key incorrect
 bootdisk     2956  beta experience
 bootdisk     3185  Lack of NCR53c810 support on boot disk
 bootdisk     3269  bootdisk silently fails-change instalation manual
 bootdisk     3320  Kernel oops - problem with APM BIOS?
 bootdisk     4017  boot disk doesn't recognize NCR scsi 
 bootdisk/r   3279  ne2000 lockups during instalation

(unknown) (103 bugs):
              3986  inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!
              4061  Debian
              4069  slrn gives error
              4093  start-stop-daemon fails to kill process
              4097  smail cron jobs don't test if smail is installed
              4129  dselect 1.3.0 infelicity
 Boot1440.b   4019  Decompression failure on Install Boot Disk
 a2gs         3456  a2gs prompt looks like `please wait' message
 a2gs         3848  "a2gs" requires changes to support multiple arches
 a2ps         1874  a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!
 a2ps         3911  "a2ps" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ax25-kerne   1467  `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-util' should use virtual packag
 ax25-kerne   2762  ax25-kernel-source: missing source file
 ax25-util    2099  slip module stops axattach
 ax25-util    2765  ax25-util: missing source file
 bin86        1281  bin86
 bin86        3568  bin86 description: no ext
 boot         4060  Kernel decompression failure.
 elvis        4034  "elvis" requires changes for multi-arch support
 enscript     3483  using args with spaces in genscriptrc
 f2c          3580  f2c description: no ext
 fort77       2919  very bad fort77 installation message
 fort77       3583  fort77 description: no ext
 g77          2852  Bug 2711: g77 does not include info file
 g77          3584  g77 description: ext start indented
 g77          4110  "g77" requires changes for multi-arch support
 guille       3856  "guile" requires changes to support multiple arches
 j1           3525  j1 hard-linked docs/manpages
 j1           3865  "j1" requires changes to support multiple arches
 kermit       2430  kermit configuration script is hard to read on a monochrome
 libc4         911  libc causes rsh to fail on commands with option arguments
 libc4        1130  Stdlib.h problems when using gcc -O-traditional
 libc4        1211  libc __nis_getgrnam() segfaults for dpkg when using NIS
 libc4        1278  dpkg seg faults with NIS
 libc4        1279  Strangeness involving <bsd/signal.h>
 libc4        1378  weird ELF/a.out difference
 libc4        1685  dpkg-split --msdos not correct
 libc4        1774  <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'
 libc4        2011  very silly messages from rsh
 libc5        3190  rlogin takes far too long when remote says Connection Refus
 libc5        3244  (no subject)
 libc5        3541  rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED!
 libc5        3825  0x80b792c either misbehaves or misdocumented
 libc5        3984  NIS writes error message to STDERR
 libc5 (and   2321  libc doesn't use **h_aliases (hostent)
 libc5-dev    2387  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documented
 libc5-dev    2573  sysinfo system call not in libc
 libdb1       2483  libdb1 uses not-yet-completely-supported >= syntax
 libdb1       2504  remove -m486 from Makefile
 libdb1       2896  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libdb1       3240  [libdb]: obsolete bugfix
 libdb1       3335  Problems encountered while compiling "libdb1" for m68k arch
 libdb1       3612  libdb1 description: no ext
 libg++27     2610  support for m68k-linux
 libg++27     3626  libg++27 description: no ext
 libgdbm1     2484  libgdbm1 conflicts with some versions of perl5 and man
 libgdbm1     3321  libgdbm.so version number...
 libgdbm1     3342  Problems encountered while compiling "libgdbm1" for m68k ar
 libjpeg6a    3590  libjpeg6a description: ext start indented
 libjpeg6a-   3608  libjpeg6a-dev description: no ext
 libreadlin   2899  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libreadlin   3345  Problems encountered while compiling "libreadline2" for m68
 ncurses3.0   1314  ncurses fails in silly way on TERM=dumb
 ncurses3.0   1997  ncurses linux terminal definition for kbs
 ncurses3.0   2085  /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned
 ncurses3.0   2291  missing terminfo capabilities for xterm
 ncurses3.0   2806  ncurses man pages internal inconsistencies
 ncurses3.0   2962  dselect arrow keys don't work after a search
 ncurses3.0   3113  dselect provokes ncurses problem when window enlarged
 ncurses3.0   3207  strange screen update choices from ncurses
 ncurses3.0   3422  termcap entry too long error
 ncurses3.0   3801  ncurses3.0 should not be essential
 ncurses3.0   3904  ncurses on mono linux console claims colour capability
 ncurses3.0   3974  problem with arrow keys in dselect (xterm)
 p2c          3713  Problems encountered while compiling "p2c" on m68k arch.
 p2c          3870  "p2c" requires changes to support multiple arches
 postgres95   4112  "postgres95" requires changes for multi-arch support
 shutdown     3720  shutdown prints "You don't exist. Go away!"
 spice        3155  spice still on my system
 ssh          4126  ssh & gpm
 svgalib1     2379  svgalib postinst broken
 svgalib1     2455  can't install svgalib1-1.28-5
 svgalib1     2876  svgalib will not work in a setup with serial console
 svgalib1-b   2311  svgalib has undocumented setuid program in /usr/doc/example
 svgalib1-d   3877  /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d is still a.out
 tk40         3827  Tk4.0's bell flashes the display
 tk41         3953  Tk 4.1's bell flashes the display.
 w3-el        3637  w3-el description: no ext
 win32binut   2650  win32binutils has /usr/bin/flex++
 win32binut   3653  win32binutils description: no ext
 win32gcc     3651  win32gcc description: no ext
 win32libs    3649  win32libs description: no ext
 x10          4040  "x10" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xaw3d        3067  broken libXaw3d
 xaw3d        3755  xaw3d shouldn't automatically install as libXaw
 xfnt100      3657  xfnt100 description: no ext
 xfnt75       3665  xfnt75 description: no ext
 xpostitplu   4101  xpostitplus loses previous postit notes
 xserver-ma   2039  X server font erosion
 xserver-s3   1796  missing call to ntohs in X server
 xserver-s3   3750  X server inaccessible sometimes
 xserver-s3   4056  mouse cursor in X3 server is cross-eyed
 xserver-s3   4066  strangeness with X3 server

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> (Is texi2html any good?)

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Support writes:
> 
> Package: samba
> Version: 1.9.16alpha10-1
> 
> When left unattended, the smbd daemon (or several instances of such)
> seems to go into some sort of busy look that eats up all of the
> processor time of the computer.  This seems to occur when no computers
> are actually accessing shares exported by samba (i.e. when the Win95
> machines are turned off for the night), but may also occur at other
> times (i.e. the only share requested by a just turned on machine doesn't
> exist).
> 
> Since the machines that samba runs on are used as production news and
> web servers, this is a serious problem.  Current solution is to run smbd
> as a daemon instead of from inetd and to kill it before leaving for the
> day.  Seeking a better solution, or pointer to an earlier version that
> may remidy the problem by stepping to a more stable release.
> 
> I believe 1.9.15beta? or 1.8.? (which I was running on a slackware
> system that was recently replaced by the debian system) did not exhibit
> this bug.

Yes I've noticed this myself, I'm looking into it.

Andrew

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Andrew Howell				      howellaa@cs.curtin.edu.au
Perth, Western Australia	     andrew@it.com.au andrew@debian.org


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if we standardize the names for the alternate formats, can we also
have, for each format foo, a virtual foo-viewer package, and include
it in the dependencies?  (That will, as a side effect, make it easier
to determine which formats are supported in a given package...)


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package: dpkg
version: 1.3.4

There seems to be a problem with debian-changelog-mode.

When I attempt to finalize the release, I get the following message in
the minibuffer:

Searching for program: no such file or directory, 822-date

It's fairly obvious where it's happening (just grep for 822-date), but
since I haven't the slightest idea what I'm looking for, I can't
correct it.

I am using emacs-19,31, so I suppose it's possible that it's something
that's changed recently, since I seem to remember you just recently
mentioning that you were still using 19.29.

Mike.
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On 9 Aug 1996, Mark Eichin wrote:

> > Well, the question is, why does it set the value to 'w' when debian.rules
> > calls the make, but not when I call make from the prompt?
> 
> Because it's a subprocess of another make.  Like the doc says:
> 
> >   Normally, you do not need to specify this option because `make' does
> >it for you: `-w' is turned on automatically when you use the `-C'
> >option, and in sub-`make's.  `make' will not automatically turn on `-w'
> >if you also use `-s', which says to be silent, or if you use
> >`--no-print-directory' to explicitly disable it.

This is exactly what I needed to know. What docs? (I read the man page)

> 
> Also, if you insist on passing the flags on the make command line, use
> MFLAGS, it works that way -- MAKEFLAGS is passed through the
> environment already, so using -$(MAKEFLAGS) is (1) redundant (2) wrong
> if there are no options already given...
>
I believe the make file comes with the upstream source. I can, of course,
modify it.

Thanks for all the help guys, I think I can take it from here ;-)

Dwarf

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I discovered (part of) the problem.  "at" does not set any of the
positional parameters to be the name of the script being executed, and
provides no other way to discover it.  I guess that's OK, if not
convenient, so I guess I'll close this bug.  Maybe I'll open one on at
:>

--
Rob


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> This is exactly what I needed to know. What docs? (I read the man page)

"info make". The texinfo docs in a GNU package are *always* at least
as good as the man page, and almost always significantly more detailed.


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  Thomas>  PACKAGE: motifnls 
  Thomas>  VERSION: 2.1-1
  Thomas> 
  Thomas> A commercial application (Maple VR3) does not run correctly under
  Thomas> X11R6 even with motifnls installed.  It complains abut unknown
  Thomas> keysyms osf* (for example osfCopy), even though these are defined
  Thomas> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB.
  Thomas> 
  Thomas> The problem is that Maple looks for these things under /usr/X386,
  Thomas> as verified with strace.

It works here on the version of Maple V Release 3 (dated Feb 1995) that is
available through a site license here at Queen's. All of maple is below
/usr/local/maple, and a shell script /usr/local/bin/maple, supplied by
Waterloo Software with Maple, sets

[...]	
MAPLE=/usr/local/maple
export MAPLE  
[...]
# This variable tells Maple's Motif interface where to find its resource
# files. This should be set even if TTY Maple is being run, as the user
# might still open a Motif plot window.
XAPPLRESDIR=$MAPLE/X11_defaults
export XAPPLRESDIR    

and indeed, there are plenty of osf* definitions in the files in the
directory. 

$ grep -c osf /usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/*
/usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/Maple:26
/usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/Maple2dX11m:0
/usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/Maple3dX11m:0
/usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/MapleV:26
/usr/local/maple/X11_defaults/XKeysymDB:25     

Might this be a local problem?

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Bruce Perens writes ("Re:  Shared library dependencies revisited"):
...
> OK. Have each library-provider automaticaly include a "Provides: " for
> each library that it provides, with the name indicating the
> architecture, executable format, soname, and major and _minor_ numbers
> of the library.
> 
> The tool that looks for library dependencies in packages finds 
> the packages that provide virtual package names matching the libraries
> it needs, and adds a dependency for the _actual_ package and its version
> rather than for the virtual package name.

But we need to know the least recent version which will satisfy a
dependency based on this library, which depends on library minor
numbering.  This information would have to be there too.

> This is still overloading "Provides:" for half the process. If you don't
> like that, you can put it in another field ("Exports:"?). This still allows
> you to leverage on the existing database rather than to add another file
> to the package. 

You're right, I don't like reusing Provides for that purpose.

I don't see that another field is much different to another file in
dpkg's status area - the question really becomes one of database
optimisation.  dpkg already has mechanisms for handling files
DEBIAN/<spong>, filing them in /var/lib/dpkg/info, and removing them
with the package.

But, you have convinced me that DEBIAN/<spong> is the right place for
this file.

(Not putting it in the control file makes it easier for the shared
library package maintainer to put what they want in it, now that
package control files are very auto-generated.)

So, all that remains, I think, is to specify the syntax of the file:

How about
 <library-name> <soname> <dependencies-in-dpkg-syntax>
eg
 libc 5         libc5 (>=5.2.18-2)
or
 libc 4         libc | libc4
or some such.

If we put the package name there then we can have
/etc/dpkg/shlib.defaults with default values for when the library
package doesn't have the file (for transition &c) and
/etc/dpkg/shlib.overrides for overriding them.

I'm almost convinced now that this is the right thing to do.

Schemes involving Provides and so forth provide very little
flexibility about what gets put into the dependencies of the package
which uses the library.  This way the package providing the library
can specify what the dependencies should look like.

Ian.


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Before anyone changes anything, please read the appropriate part of
the new policy manual.

Ian.


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Package: libpaper
Version: 1.0-1

I suggest that this binary be renamed `papersize'.

Ian.


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Package: libpaper
Version: 1.0-1

The package contains /etc/papersize as a dpkg-handled conffile, but
this file is also modified by many packages' maintainer scripts
(including those of libpaper).

This is forbidden.  See the dpkg programmers' manual.

Ian.


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The package contains:
-r--r--r-- root/root       718 Aug 13 18:04 1996 usr/man/man1/paper.1.gz

1. This file should be writeable by root (see the guidelines).

2. Either it should not be compressed (see the guidelines) or we
should mandate compressed manpages.

Ian.


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Package: dosemu
Version: 0.60.3-1

The normal dosemu package comes with some dos utilities that can be run
under dosemu. The most useful one is "exitemu", which is required to
leave the doe emulator, but there are lots of other userful programs in
there. The dosemu .deb is lacking all these utilities.

I suggest they be packaged up in the .deb, and placed in either
/usr/doc/examples/dosemu, or in /usr/lib/dosemu/dosutils/ or something
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Version: 1.0-1

[joey@kite] /usr/bin>file say
say: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped

This should be updated to elf.

PS: it'd be nice to include some of the prononciation dictionaries 'say' 
can use. (Probably as seperate packages, as they are all very large.)

Two dictionaries:
ftp://svr-ftp.eng.cam.ac.uk/pub/comp.speech/data/beep-0.6.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.cmu.edu/project/fgdata/dict/cmudict.0.4.gz

PPS: rsynth 1.0 is very out-of-date. I know there is at least a version
2.0 out.
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Package: ldso
Version: 1.7.14-4

[joey@kite] /lib>file ld.so*
ld.so:        Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
ld.so.1.7.14: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped

Looks like ld.so is still a.out. This is very annoying, because it means
that the a.out kernel module is most always loaded:

[root@kite] /lib>lsmod
Module:        #pages:  Used by:
nfs               12            5 (autoclean)
binfmt_aout        1            0 (autoclean)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
ppp                5            1 (autoclean)
slhc               2    [ppp]   1 (autoclean)

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Package: symlinks
Version: 1.0-2

[joey@kite] /usr/bin>file symlinks
symlinks: Linux/i386 impure executable (OMAGIC), stripped

I've not seen an OMAGIC binary before, but I presume this is an a.out
executable format. If so, it should be recompiled as an elf binary.

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Package: fortune
Version: 2.1-1

[joey@kite] /usr/sbin>file *str*
strfile: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)
unstr:   Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)

These should be recompiled as elf.

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Package: fortune
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Oh, fortune is a.out as well:

[joey@kite] /usr/games>file fortune
fortune: setuid Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)

Please recompile the whole fortune package as elf.

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Cfingerd always seems to report "[MSG-N]", even when I do have messages   
turned on:

Package: cfingerd
Version: 1.2.2-4

[joey@kite] ~>mesg y
[joey@kite] ~>finger joey@
[]
Username: joey                      In real life: Joey Hess             
Home directory: /home/joey          Shell: /usr/bin/zsh                 
Room:                               Work phone:                         
Home phone:                         Other:                              

This user last read mail Tue Aug 13 11:53PM (EDT)

On since Tue Aug 13 11:51PM (EDT) on ttyp2 from :0.0[MSG-N]
On since Tue Aug 13 11:11PM (EDT) on ttyp1 Idle 00:00:19 from :0.0[MSG-N]
On since Tue Aug 13 11:11PM (EDT) on ttyp0 Idle 00:04:04 from :0.0[MSG-N]

Plan:
This user has no plan.
..

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Package: mount
Version: 2.5j-1

I don't know if we have this problem currently, but I'd appreciate it
if you'd check.

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FYI.

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Greetings folks,
Sorry we haven't released this thing sooner, due to testing we've
conducted to determine vulnerability on other systems besides Linux,
I've attached the officail release, Patch this up quick, and if I were
you, I wouldn't trust those old binaries to be secure anymore, this
thing has been with Linux since it's beggining, at it's high time this
"feature" is removed.

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Covin Security Releases:
(mount bufferoverflow exploit v1.0)

Tested operated systems: All current distributions of Linux

Affect: Local users on systems affected can gain overflow mounts syntax 
buffer and execute a shell by overwriting the stack.

Affected binaries:
(/bin/mount and /bin/umount)

Workaround:
On all current distributions of Linux remove suid bit of /bin/mount and 
/bin/umount. 
[chmod -s /bin/mount;chmod -s /bin/umount]

Remarks:
For gods sake, how many more times are we gonna see this kind of problem? 
It's been with Linux since it's very beggining, and it's so easy to 
exploit. Similiar buffer overflow vulnerabilities have been found in 
Linux distributions many times before, splitvt, dip, just to name a few 
examples. 


Any remarks, notes or other forms of feedback may be redirected to: 
bloodmask@mymail.com

[Mod: This exploit has already been posted to Bugtraq.  --Jeff.]


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> > > Non-usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-0.1
> > > Usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-1
> > > 
> > > Usual-maintainer should never use -0 for revisions.
> > > And if we agree on this, it should be mandated in the manual.
> > 
> > I think this seems reasonable.  I propose to mandate it.
> > 
> > Any objections, considerations ?
> 
> Doesn't this open up the file naming question again.  I.e. before we
> could say definitively that 
> 
> xxx_yyy-zzz.aaa

STOP STOP, MY MISTAKE (I meant _) SORRY SORRY, let's continue.

Erick 


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Package: libtiff3-dev
Version: 3.4beta034-1

The following files cause `man' to complain when updating its index cache:

man3/TIFFCheckTile.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFComputeStrip.3t:.so TIFFstrip.3t
man3/TIFFComputeTile.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFCurrentDirectory.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFCurrentRow.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFCurrentStrip.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFCurrentTile.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFDefaultStripSize.3t:.so TIFFstrip.3t
man3/TIFFDefaultTileSize.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFFdOpen.3t:.so TIFFOpen.3t
man3/TIFFFileName.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFFileno.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFFindCODEC.3t:.so TIFFcodec.3t
man3/TIFFFlushData.3t:.so TIFFFlush.3t
man3/TIFFGetMode.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFIsByteSwapped.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFIsMSB2LSB.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFIsTiled.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFIsUpSampled.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFLastDirectory.3t:.so TIFFquery.3t
man3/TIFFNumberOfStrips.3t:.so TIFFstrip.3t
man3/TIFFNumberOfTiles.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFRGBAImageBegin.3t:.so TIFFRGBAImage.3t
man3/TIFFRGBAImageEnd.3t:.so TIFFRGBAImage.3t
man3/TIFFRGBAImageGet.3t:.so TIFFRGBAImage.3t
man3/TIFFRGBAImageOK.3t:.so TIFFRGBAImage.3t
man3/TIFFReadBufferSetup.3t:.so TIFFbuffer.3t
man3/TIFFRegisterCODEC.3t:.so TIFFcodec.3t
man3/TIFFReverseBits.3t:.so TIFFswab.3t
man3/TIFFScanlineSize.3t:.so TIFFsize.3t
man3/TIFFSetErrorHandler.3t:.so TIFFError.3t
man3/TIFFSetSubDirectory.3t:.so TIFFSetDirectory.3t
man3/TIFFSetWarningHandler.3t:.so TIFFWarning.3t
man3/TIFFStripSize.3t:.so TIFFstrip.3t
man3/TIFFSwabArrayOfLong.3t:.so TIFFswab.3t
man3/TIFFSwabArrayOfShort.3t:.so TIFFswab.3t
man3/TIFFSwabLong.3t:.so TIFFswab.3t
man3/TIFFSwabShort.3t:.so TIFFswab.3t
man3/TIFFTileRowSize.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFTileSize.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFUnRegisterCODEC.3t:.so TIFFcodec.3t
man3/TIFFVGetField.3t:.so TIFFGetField.3t
man3/TIFFVSetField.3t:.so TIFFSetField.3t
man3/TIFFVStripSize.3t:.so TIFFstrip.3t
man3/TIFFVTileSize.3t:.so TIFFtile.3t
man3/TIFFWriteBufferSetup.3t:.so TIFFbuffer.3t
man3/TIFFfree.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t
man3/TIFFmalloc.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t
man3/TIFFmemcmp.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t
man3/TIFFmemcpy.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t
man3/TIFFmemset.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t
man3/TIFFrealloc.3t:.so TIFFmemory.3t

The .so in these files should probably read, e.g.:

.so man3/TIFFmemory.3t

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Package: base(?)
Version: 1.1.0-14

During the initial installation of Debian 1.1, the user is asked for
information which is used to construct an /etc/resolv.conf file.

However:

  - If the user enters more than one nameserver IP address, all the
    addresses are listed on a single line in /etc/resolv.conf; they
    should instead appear on separate lines, one for each address.

  - Both "domain" and "search" directives are present in the file.
    These are mutually exclusive, and only the last instance is
    effective.

    "domain" is in fact only a special case of "search" that implies
    a particular pattern. For example, the following are equivalent:

        domain foo.bar.baz.com
        search foo.bar.baz.com bar.baz.com baz.com

    Having both directives in the file is misleading and can cause
    problems if the user makes an innocent change to reverse the order
    of these lines; therefore I would recommend only one be written
    during the installation procedure.

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Package: smail
Version: 3.1.29.1

When removing smail from the system (in favour of sendmail) with
dselect, /etc/cron.daily/smail is not removed.  This results in 
unnecessary mail being sent to root.
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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:

>MAPLE=/usr/local/maple
>export MAPLE  
>[...]
># This variable tells Maple's Motif interface where to find its resource
># files. This should be set even if TTY Maple is being run, as the user
># might still open a Motif plot window.
>XAPPLRESDIR=$MAPLE/X11_defaults
>export XAPPLRESDIR    

Same thing here (same version, I suspect), only it doesn't work.

I have no idea where Maple gets the /usr/X386 path from.  It's not
in the Maple binary itself (or if it is, then 'grep -l X386' can't find
it), it's not in the 'maple' start script, it's not in the environment
(checked via 'printenv | grep X386').

Hmm... I just found that particular string in libX11.so.3.1.0 and in
libXt.so.3.1.0, under /usr/X11R5/lib.  Strace verivies that they
are indeed used, so that's probably where that path comes from.  The
vendor is not to blame.

So, it appears to be a problem with the xcompat package, not with
motifnls.  (And yes, Maple is an a.out binary).  Somebody please
reassign this bug report, please :-)
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Hi,

Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?  

If so can it specified in the guidelines.
If not what should we use?

Erick


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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Andrew Howell wrote:

> Support writes:
> > Package: samba
> > Version: 1.9.16alpha10-1
> > 
> > When left unattended, the smbd daemon (or several instances of
> > such) seems to go into some sort of busy look that eats up all of
> > the processor time of the computer. This seems to occur when no
> > computers are actually accessing shares exported by samba (i.e. when
> > the Win95 machines are turned off for the night), but may also occur
> > at other times (i.e. the only share requested by a just turned on
> > machine doesn't exist).
>
> Yes I've noticed this myself, I'm looking into it.

I've noticed it on my machines too, but don't use it enough yet to have
tracked down the exact circumstances which cause it. 

it seems to mostly happen when my (newly built from my "junk" parts
pile) WfWG3.11 machine accesses directories which don't exist. I've also
caused it to happen by running the telephone/chat program (whatever it's
called) which came with WfWG and trying to 'phone' my linux machines.

my 'fix' is to kill the runaway smbd processes, and also make sure that nmbd
is killed on all my linux machines.  I don't know why, but it seems as if
unless nmbd is killed then the smbd processes will just be respawned about 5
minutes later and start eating up the CPU again.  smbd reacting badly to a
query from nmbd, perhaps??



Craig



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Hello all,

A quick question (probably directed most at Ian). I notice that
/usr/lib/locale is part of the base system, but that nothing uses it.

OTOH, some packages do provide /usr/share/locale:

$ dpkg -S /usr/share/locale
textutils, fileutils, sharutils: /usr/share/locale

I have to decide what to use since the new GNU libc6 wants to know
where the locale directory is, and with the new FSSTND coming up, and
existing practice, etc.

/usr/lib/locale    or   /usr/share/locale ?

[I've configured it for /usr/share/locale at the moment]

Mike.
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I just talked to Ian about the name of the source dir in our new source
format. Since we're changing the format anyway I think we should use the
same format for source and binaries. For instance I'd like to name the
modules source file modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz, the binary
modules_2.0.0-8_i386.deb and the directory in which the source is stored IMO
should be modules_2.0.0.

Comments anyone?

Michael
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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people
> not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel.
> 
> Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ?
> 
It would certainly keep the multiplicity of messages down to just two.
However, there are several people who post to the lists, but don't read
them, who ask to be responded to directly. Maybe we should just require
that these people suffer reading the lists like the rest of us?
Anything that keeps the mail at my end from being so redundant would be
greatly appreciated. In fact it would be nice if this message didn't go to
you twice, but I don't see any easy way to avoid this, short of writing
more functionality into the list manager.

Sounds good to me,

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Just a thought, but I was wondering if perhaps the dselect program
could be modified to allow for it to not allow you to be able to select
.deb archives that are non-existent?  I've noticed that for the .deb
archives that I haven't downloaded, the only way I know that they're
not there, is that their names don't show up during execution of the
installation script.

Perhaps you could have a warning in the dselect windowed interface that
gives you an error if you try to install a non-existent package?

Also, in the matter of gs(?), the dselect program does not state that
X11-R6 is required to be installed; it states that svgalib can also be
used.  However, in the list of dependencies (brought up by the 'i'nfo
command, it states that X11-R6 _IS_ required.)  When installing it, it
fails, giving the reason that the Xlib library is not installed.  So,
can you use it without Xlib, and instead use svgalib?  i.e.  Do I need
to do a dpkg-deb, and force it to install, ignoring dependencies?

Thanks in advance.


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Lars Wirzenius writes:
> I guess I'm repeating myself, but oh well. In my opinion, the main Debian
> distribution (i.e., not including non-free or contrib) should consist only
> of free software, where the definition of free includes the requirement
> that source code is available and that the program does not depend in
> a significant manner on a non-free package, whether the dependency is during
> compilation, installation or use.
> 
> XForms is not free (no source). Anything that uses XForms is not free,
> because you can't compile it without XFree.

Okay. Thus it has to go into contrib. Right?
> 
> All the installer packages likewise. And *-?motif packages.

That's quite logical. How about adding a contrib section (or a no-source)
section to both standard trees. My problem with contrib is that it is
located outside the standard tree. If it were inside I'd say let's move
everything that's not completely free in your sense (but free in the
copyright sense) there.

> > behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.
> 
> That would be great, but as long as it depends on non-free stuff, it should
> go in contrib.

Can't we find a way to keep programs like this an official part?

> We need to have complete source code so that we can port packages to
> new platforms, or to new tools or libraries. I'm sure XForms is nice,
> but is there a version of the Alpha? For glibc? For newest XFree shared

alpha: Yes!
glibc: Don't know.

> libraries? For gcc with pentium patches? With profiling support? 
> 
> Placing a package in non-free or contrib isn't discriminatory, it's just
> honesty and makes it possible for people to choosing packages more easily.
> I'm all for having LyX packaged for Debian, and XForms too, but we aren't
> helping the user by putting it into the main distribution.

I understand your reasoning. But I think it's sort of discriminatory because
it's not under rex.

Michael

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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:

>  Thomas> Hmm... I just found that particular string in libX11.so.3.1.0 and
>  Thomas> in libXt.so.3.1.0, under /usr/X11R5/lib.  Strace verivies that they
>  Thomas> are indeed used, so that's probably where that path comes from.
>  Thomas> The vendor is not to blame.
>
>But those don't seem to be loaded by /usr/local/bin/maple/bin/mapleV 
>
>$ ldd /usr/local/maple/bin/mapleV
>        libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libm.so.4.6.27
>        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libc.so.4.6.27    

But they're loaded by irisVxm, the graphical front end:

$ ldd irisVxm 
        libXt.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0
        libX11.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0
        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libc.so.4.7.2

After playing around with 'strings' in the /usr/X11R5/lib directory,
I finally hit upon a workable solution: Do a

$ export XWINHOME=/usr/X11R6

This appears to override the hard-coded paths in the X11R5 compatibility
package.

(Dirk, it might be a good idea to check wether you have something like 
this in your environment; another suspect is the XKEYSYMDB
environment variable).

Since I have no idea of how to set an environment variable from
a Debian package (and from which package to do it) I leave it
to more capable hands to reassign this bug to whatever package
is right (xbase, xcompat, or whatever).
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> Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
> and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?  
> 
> If so can it specified in the guidelines.
> If not what should we use?

In the transition to ELF phase, our gcc package used i486-debian-linux,
which then caused some problems with software/documentation expecting
i486-unknown-linux.

Still, I'm tempted to say: "put the debian in", it's better than unknown.

BTW, wasn't there some talk on having an extra part for the full system
name, to indicate "mainly GNU based"? (gnu.misc.discuss, emacs perhaps?)

Ray
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> Package: ldso
> Version: 1.7.14-4
> 
> [joey@kite] /lib>file ld.so*
> ld.so:        Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
> ld.so.1.7.14: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
> 
> Looks like ld.so is still a.out. This is very annoying, because it means
> that the a.out kernel module is most always loaded:

Of course, ld.so isn't used by ELF programs to load shared libraries, 
ld-linux.so.1 is.  ls.so is used only by a.out programs, so offhand, I 
don't see a problem with it being a.out.  In fact, it might not work if 
it was ELF (I'm not sure of that lastpart)

bash$ file ld*
ld-linux.so.1:      ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1
ld-linux.so.1.7.14: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1
ld.so:              Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), 
stripped
ld.so.1.7.14:       Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), 
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On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> ...
> > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest
> > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and
> > others as well).
> 
> Sorry I'm coming into this so late (just over a week, in fact), but I
> think this is a daft idea.
> 
> Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
> notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
> kind of `mistake' our dependency scheme should try to address.

It was my understanding that this was EXACTLY what dependancies were
designed for; Protecting the installer from removing functionality that
other packages need.

> 
> The only possible consequences of creating an `editor' virtual package
> and having things depend on it are:
>  * Needless updates to packages to add dependencies and Provides

This is not a technical argument. It is an economic one, and should not be
listed as a primary point. (all change takes work) Your assertion that it
is needless is not yet backed up by technical arguments. In addition, the
modification of other editor packages to encorporate this new VPN are not
on any critical path, so they can happen as need arrises.

>  * Some person installs their own favourite editor in /usr/local
>    and wants to remove all ours but can't.

This is true for any package that has others that depend on it. If I want
to put a qmail of my own into /usr/local, I will still need to keep some
Debian mail-delivery-agent installed to satisfy other packages dependance
on an MDA. A way to tell dpkg about "non-package provides" would fix this
problem in general, but I don't necessarily think that it is needed, or
even desirable.

> 
> I think the `editor' virtual package should be scrapped.
> 
I personaly have no problem with this, as long as you can show a more
specific reason for doing so. So far I haven't seen an argument that is
"to the point".

Later,

Dwarf

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[...]
  Thomas> Same thing here (same version, I suspect), only it doesn't work.
[...]
  Thomas> Hmm... I just found that particular string in libX11.so.3.1.0 and
  Thomas> in libXt.so.3.1.0, under /usr/X11R5/lib.  Strace verivies that they
  Thomas> are indeed used, so that's probably where that path comes from.
  Thomas> The vendor is not to blame.

But those don't seem to be loaded by /usr/local/bin/maple/bin/mapleV 

$ ldd /usr/local/maple/bin/mapleV
        libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libm.so.4.6.27
        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libc.so.4.6.27    

  Thomas> So, it appears to be a problem with the xcompat package, not with
  Thomas> motifnls. (And yes, Maple is an a.out binary).

I don't think xcompat is the cause as I also have xcompat installed, yet it
works for me and not for you. Odd.

  Thomas>   Somebody please reassign this bug report, please :-)

If that was needed, you could do it yourself. Just look into the files
	doc/bug-mailserver-refcard.txt
	doc/bug-maint-mailcontrol.txt 
from any debian mirror.

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package: procps
version: 1.01a-1

psupdate seems to have recently taken to writing the psdatabase into
/etc, not into /boot.

This breaks the current kernel-package slightly (nothing fatal, just
annoying).

If /boot was the wrong place, please let me know so we can update
kernel-package.  If /etc is the wrong place (and I think it is),
please correct procps.

Mike.
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On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Christopher R. Hertel wrote:

> Package: boot (boot1440.bin, install)
> Version: 1.1  (kernel is 2.0.0)
> 
> Updated information...
> 
> Problem: On some systems, the compressed kernel image provided on the
> installation floppy (boot1440.bin) is not decompressed properly when
> read from floppy.  One solution that seems to work for most users is to
> *disable the internal cache*.  If this does not work for you, try
> disabling both the internal and external cache.  This is done via the
> bios setup.
> 

It is possible that your system has timing problems ... Try to increase 
the IO-Waitstates in the BIOS-Setup (if there is an option like that), 
and leave both internal and external cache on.
                                   
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Hello Peter,

> Package: ssh
> Version: 1.2.13-1

Could you please check the version 1.2.14-1 if it occurs as well? (I am not
using gpm, so i can not check it.)

Thanks,
  Dominik


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  Ian> 2. Either it should not be compressed (see the guidelines) or we
  Ian> should mandate compressed manpages.

In this case the guidelines are of. Bruce waved his hand a while ago and
allowed parallel existence of compressed and uncompressed manpages. 
Some maintainers, yours truly included, started to compress man pages:

edd@miles:~> find /usr/man/ -name \*gz |wc -l
    107  

In this case, the Guidelines need updating.

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Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> In fact it would be nice if this message didn't go to you twice, but
> I don't see any easy way to avoid this, short of writing more
> functionality into the list manager.

I may have already said this, but for those interested, gnus will
generally remove duplicates for you if you want it to.  It keeps a
cache of incoming mail message ID's and can be cofigured to do
anything you want with the duplicates.  I have it place them in a
separate mail group which I just trash every now and then.

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  Michael> I'd like to name the modules source file modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz,
  Michael> the binary modules_2.0.0-8_i386.deb and the directory in which the
  Michael> source is stored IMO should be modules_2.0.0.

As the saying goes: You can't have the pie and eat it.

There are conflicting goals: either we want to make clear that upstream
sources are unaltered (which we agree is a good principle) and therefore name
a source file modules-2.0.tar.gz or we strive for consistency and name it
modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz which looks as if we have altered the sources.

But I very much like the idea of renaming the directory. After all, it
contains pristine upstream material _plus_ our patches.

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>>>>> "IJ" == Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>> It would be nice also to not have long messages fully quoted :-(

IJ> Right, this is going into the policy manual.

Please put also something about long signatures (> 4 lines) or
signatures whose first line is not "-- ".

Ciao, Emilio.

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Package: shellutils
Version: 1.12-5

/bin/echo does not support the `-' or `--' constructs for separating
non-option arguments from options.  Nor does it give a separate option
for this purpose (a la `-e' for grep).

This means that the only way to print strings that look like its
options is to use -e and the encode the first character of the string
- the hyphen - in octal !

Eg, the only way I can find to print the string `-n' followed by a
newline is to say:
 echo -e '\055n'
or
 echo -e -n '\055n\012'

This is clearly unacceptable.

Ian.


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On Aug 14,  3:10pm, Sebastian Benoit wrote:
:
: It is possible that your system has timing problems ... Try to
: increase  the IO-Waitstates in the BIOS-Setup (if there is an option
: like that),  and leave both internal and external cache on.
:
>-- End of excerpt from Sebastian Benoit

Thanks for the recommendation.  I will give it a try.  On the other
hand,

- I'm not the only person who has reported this problem.  I've seen a
  few reports.  I'll try to find out if there is a similarity.

- I've heard reports from OS/2 users that similar problems have been
  seen with some installations of that OS.  Again, the solution was to
  disable cache.

- Linux 1.2.8 loads and runs fine from the hard disk.  The others who
  had to turn off cache in order to install Debian found that they
  could re-enable cache once they had installed the system.

I don't know enough about hardware to know if these points are
consistant with timing problems.  As I said, turning off the internal
cache (external remains on, on my system) works.  I'll also try your
suggestion, since the results will shed some light on the problem.

Thanks!

Christoph -)-----

-- 
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Hi,

	I trust you are all aware of the information released to
bugtraq/linux-security and linux-alert mailing lists about the vulnerability
of mount/umount utilities in Linux. 
	I'd really appreciate if you provide some official information on
your distribution specific fixes for the upcoming Linux Security FAQ
Update... 

				Best wishes,
				Alex

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On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Daniel Quinlan wrote:

(a problem with talk)

> I'm connected to the internet via PPP with dynamic addressing

Does your /etc/ppp/ip-up edit /etc/hosts, inserting your dynamic
address?  If not, that's the problem.


Guy


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"Alexander O. Yuriev" <alex@bach.cis.temple.edu> writes:
> 	I trust you are all aware of the information released to
> bugtraq/linux-security and linux-alert mailing lists about the vulnerability
> of mount/umount utilities in Linux. 
> 	I'd really appreciate if you provide some official information on
> your distribution specific fixes for the upcoming Linux Security FAQ
> Update... 

Here's the note we sent out yesterday:

Recently a security hole was found in the mount program that comes with
many Linux distributions, including Red Hat Linux.

mount and umount are normally installed setUID root to allow users to
perform mount and unmount operations. Unfortunately, they do not check the
length of the information passed to them, creating a buffer overflow
problem. For more details, visit the BugTraq mailing-list archives at
http://www.eecs.nwu.edu/~jmyers/bugtraq/index.html

This hole allows anyone with an account on a system to obtain root access. 

Affected systems:
	- All systems running all versions of Red Hat Linux.

Users of versions of Red Hat less than 3.0.3 are advised to upgrade to
3.0.3, since many other problems are fixed in the upgrade.

If you are running:
* Red Hat Linux 3.0.3 (Picasso) on the Intel architecture, get
	- ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-3.0.3/i386/updates/RPMS/
		util-linux-2.5-11fix.i386.rpm
		mount-2.5k-1.i386.rpm
And install them in that order using 'rpm -Uvh [rpm filename]'

* Red Hat Linux 3.0.3 (Picasso) on the Intel architecture, get
	- ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-3.0.3/axp/updates/RPMS/
		util-linux-2.5-11fix.axp.rpm
		mount-2.5k-1.axp.rpm
And install them in that order using 'rpm -Uvh [rpm filename]'

* Red Hat Linux 3.0.4 (Rembrandt) beta on the Intel, get
	- ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rembrandt/i386/updates/RPMS/
		mount-2.5k-2.i386.rpm

* Red Hat Linux 3.0.4 (Rembrandt) beta on the Sparc, get
	- ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rembrandt/sparc/updates/RPMS/
		mount-2.5k-2.sparc.rpm

[Aside: There is no difference between mount-2.5k-1 and -2 except
the package format.]

All RPMs are PGP-signed with the redhat@redhat.com key.
The source RPMs will be available in the normal locations.

MD5SUM's:
ad9b0628b6af9957d7b5eb720bbe632b  mount-2.5k-1.axp.rpm
12cb19ec4b3060f8d1cedff77bda7c05  util-linux-2.5-11fix.axp.rpm

26506a3c0066b8954d80deff152e0229  mount-2.5k-1.i386.rpm
f48c6bf901dd5d2c476657d6b75b12a5  util-linux-2.5-11fix.i386.rpm

7337f8796318f3b13f2dccb4a8f10b1a  mount-2.5k-2.i386.rpm
e68ff642a7536f3be4da83eedc14dd76  mount-2.5k-2.sparc.rpm

Thanks to Bloodmask, Vio, and others on the BugTraq list for discovering
this hole and providing patches.



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  Thomas>  But they're loaded by irisVxm, the graphical front end:

Which I don't use ..., I use the xmaple shell script (see below).

  Thomas> (Dirk, it might be a good idea to check wether you have something
  Thomas> like this in your environment; another suspect is the XKEYSYMDB
  Thomas> environment variable).

I have no such environment variable set as a design principle of Debian is to
do the Right Thing (TM) without these variables

edd@miles:~> set | grep X
PATH=~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:.          

  Thomas> Since I have no idea of how to set an environment variable from a
  Thomas> Debian package (and from which package to do it) I leave it to more
  Thomas> capable hands to reassign this bug to whatever package is right
  Thomas> (xbase, xcompat, or whatever).  

I still believe there is no bug. I see that the iris stuff gets executed if
you say "maple -x" at the prompt. Could you try to use the xmaple script?
That still brings it up as a Motif app but leaves the old .so.3 X11 libraries
out of it.


#!/bin/sh

# Copyright (c) 1993 by Waterloo Maple Software.
# Permission is granted to modify this file to be appropriate for use at the
# installation for which Maple was purchased.

# This script runs Maple V with a Motif interface.

exec maple -x $*


--
Dirk Eddelb"uttel                             http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd


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Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Andrew Howell wrote:
> > Support writes:
> > > Package: samba
> > > Version: 1.9.16alpha10-1
> > >
> > > When left unattended, the smbd daemon (or several instances of
> > > such) seems to go into some sort of busy look that eats up all of
> > > the processor time of the computer. This seems to occur when no
> > > computers are actually accessing shares exported by samba (i.e. when
> > > the Win95 machines are turned off for the night), but may also occur
> > > at other times (i.e. the only share requested by a just turned on
> > > machine doesn't exist).
> >
> > Yes I've noticed this myself, I'm looking into it.
> 
> I've noticed it on my machines too, but don't use it enough yet to have
> tracked down the exact circumstances which cause it.
> 
> it seems to mostly happen when my (newly built from my "junk" parts
> pile) WfWG3.11 machine accesses directories which don't exist. I've also
> caused it to happen by running the telephone/chat program (whatever it's
> called) which came with WfWG and trying to 'phone' my linux machines.
> 
> my 'fix' is to kill the runaway smbd processes, and also make sure that nmbd
> is killed on all my linux machines.  I don't know why, but it seems as if
> unless nmbd is killed then the smbd processes will just be respawned about 5
> minutes later and start eating up the CPU again.  smbd reacting badly to a
> query from nmbd, perhaps??

The problem with that fix is that it usually goes balistic after we've
left the office for the night.  Version 1.9.15p8 of samba didn't seem to
have that problem.  This might be instructive in looking for what was
changed.


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Package: rpncalc
Version: 1.1-1

Directories must be 755 root.root.

Ian.

chiark:~/junk> dpkg --contents /csunix-export1/debian/unstable/binary-i386/math/rpncalc_1.1-1.deb 
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 ./
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/bin/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     15792 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/bin/rpncalc
drw-r--r-- root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/man/
drw-r--r-- root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/man/man1/
-rw-r--r-- root/root      2485 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/man/man1/rpncalc.1
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/doc/
drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/doc/copyright/
-rw-r--r-- root/root      1695 Jul 23 23:00 1996 usr/doc/copyright/rpncalc
chiark:~/junk> 


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Michael Meskes wrote:
> 
> I just talked to Ian about the name of the source dir in our new source
> format. Since we're changing the format anyway I think we should use the
> same format for source and binaries. For instance I'd like to name the
> modules source file modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz, the binary
> modules_2.0.0-8_i386.deb and the directory in which the source is stored IMO
> should be modules_2.0.0.
> 
> Comments anyone?
> 
Are you talking about the directory on the ftp sites (if there is such),
or the directory into which the source is unpacked? If the latter, then
it seems gratuitously different from the way the normal upstream source
would unpack, for no obvious benefit.

(I mean obvious to me. Maybe I'm missing something. I often do :-))

Steve Greenland

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Hi all,

I got a request from Jim Meyering (gnu maintainer shellutils, textutils,
fileutils etc.) whether or not he could get the bug-reports filed against
his packages.

I asked Ian J. about this but he couldn't come up with something more than
adding the mainstream maintainer in the maintainer field.  He said that
isn't a good suggestion and I think that it isn't as well.

Nevertheless I think that we can solve this by Adding an optional field
to the Source part of the new control file: Upstream or Upstream-Maintainer
with his/her preferred mail adress and optionally the name of the
Maintainer.  Sometimes it is difficult to point to the upstream maintainer
because it is a large group of people.  If this Upstream-Maintainer field
exists the bug report system should add an small informative message to the
bugreport and sent it to the Upstream-Maintainer.

Opinions? Suggestions? Anyone? Ian?

Erick.


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Erick Branderhorst writes in private email (I hope he doesn't mind me
posting):
> I noticed that dpkg comes with debian-changelog-mode.el instead of
> a precompiled .elc file.
> 
> Here is a file elisp-comp which is used in several gnu packages as
> well for compiling and installing .el[c] files:

Hmm.  Is it really worth byte-compiling such a small file ?

If the Emacs maintainer tells me to do it I'll do it.  I'd also like
him to tell me what to put in the policy manual on this subject.

Thanks,
Ian.


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Brian C. White writes ("Bug#4122: update-rc.d failed"):
...
>   echo "- Installing 'start' ..."
>   update-rc.d genpowerd start 11 1 2 3 4 5
>   echo "- Installing 'stop' ..."
>   update-rc.d genpowerd stop  99 0
...
>   shift: shift count must be <= $#
...
> I could not find any installed packages on my system that use
> the "start" and "stop" commands instead of "defaults".

Hmm.  You should have had a usage message instead of the internal
error.  This will be fixed in dpkg 1.3.6.

The usage message is rather cryptic, but it does say

] usage: update-rc.d <basename> remove
]        update-rc.d <basename> defaults [<cn> | <scn> <kcn>]
]        update-rc.d <basename> start|stop <cn> <r> <r> .  ...
                                                        ^
that you need a dot at the end of the argument list.

You should replace your two calls with one:
   update-rc.d genpowerd start 11 1 2 3 4 5 . stop 99 0 .

I'll close this bug report now.

Ian.


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Date outputs from 'at' are mandated as

       date +"%a %b %e %T %Y"

(i.e. "Wed Aug 14 20:05:13 1996") by the Posix.2a draft I have, which is
the date used in the upcoming release 3.0 of at(1).

Yep, that's pretty broken.  If anybody has later, better news, please
let me know.
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alegre@saturn.superlink.net writes ("Re: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'"):
...
> I would still not be able to rebuild from scratch. Any user should be able
> to rebuild any package in the official Debian distribution from the
> original source plus our patches.

Thank you, that is exactly what the policy is trying to achieve.

With your permission, I hope, I've added the fragment below near the
start of the section on copyright in the policy manual.

Ian.

The aims of the policy detailed below are:
<list compact>
<item>
That any user be able to rebuild any package in the official Debian
distribution from the original source plus our patches.
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That we make available in our packaging formats as much software as we
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Frank Neumann writes ("Re: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'"):
...
> So I'd say: Both XForms and LyX go into non-free. Compiling/linking LyX
> statically doesn't change this point, IMHO.

LyX and the XForms binary do not need to go into non-free because
AFAIAA[1] their distribution is not restricted.

Ian.

[1] As Far As I Am Aware.


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Martin Schulze writes ("Bug#4049: access permissions for sysklogd"):
> Good morning Daniel!
> 
> }/sbin/klogd and /sbin/syslogd should be 755.
> 
> Why? I don't see any reason they should be executable by everyone.  I
> have copied those permissions from my predecessor and I agree to them.

Please see the policy manual.  All binaries should be executable by
everyone unless they're set-id, and even then they should be readable.

Ian.


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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:
>
>  Thomas>  But they're loaded by irisVxm, the graphical front end:
>
>Which I don't use ..., I use the xmaple shell script (see below).

I also use xmaple.  xmaple execs "maple -x", which in turn execs
irisVxm, which forks and execs mapleV.

Here's the output of

$ strace -f -e trace=open,execve,uselib,fork,_exit -o ~/xmaple.log xmaple

(and immediately exiting once it's come up).

4201  open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libreadline.so.2.0", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libncurses.so.3.0", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libc.so.5.2.18", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY)     = 4
4201  open("..", O_RDONLY)              = 4
4201  open("../..", O_RDONLY)           = 4
4201  open("/app/bin/xmaple", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  execve("/app/bin/maple", ["maple", "-x"], [37 vars]) = 0
4201  open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libreadline.so.2.0", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libncurses.so.3.0", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/lib/libc.so.5.2.18", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY)     = 4
4201  open("..", O_RDONLY)              = 4
4201  open("../..", O_RDONLY)           = 4
4201  open("/app/bin/maple", O_RDONLY)  = 4
4201  execve("/app/maple/bin/irisVxm", ["irisVxm", "-k", "mapleV -b /app/maple/lib/update "], [38 vars]) = 0
4201  uselib("/lib/ld.so")              = 0
4201  open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  uselib("/usr/X11R5/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0") = 0
4201  uselib("/usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0") = 0
4201  uselib("/lib/libc.so.4.6.27")     = 0
4201  open("/etc/host.conf", O_RDONLY)  = 4
4201  open("/etc/resolv.conf", O_RDONLY) = 4
4201  open("/etc/hosts", O_RDONLY)      = 4
4201  open("/home/ig25/.Xauthority", O_RDONLY) = 5
4201  open("/home/ig25/.Xdefaults", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/home/ig25/.Xdefaults-mvmap83", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/home/ig25/.Xdefaults", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/app/maple/X11_defaults/MapleV", O_RDONLY) = 5
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/app/maple/afm", O_RDONLY)  = 5
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/XKeysymDB", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/XtErrorDB", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.dir", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  open("/usr/X386/lib/X11/nls/nls.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4201  fork()                            = 4202
4202  execve("/app/maple/bin/mapleV", ["mapleV", "-b", "/app/maple/lib/update", "-b", "/app/maple/lib", "-p", "7,6"], [38 vars]) = 0
4202  uselib("/lib/ld.so")              = 0
4202  open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 4
4202  uselib("/lib/libm.so.4.6.27")     = 0
4202  uselib("/lib/libc.so.4.6.27")     = 0
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/update/sysinit.m", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/update/maple.ind", O_RDONLY) = 4
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/sysinit.m", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/maple.ind", O_RDONLY) = 5
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/maple.lib", O_RDONLY) = 4
4202  open("..", O_RDONLY)              = 8
4202  open("../..", O_RDONLY)           = 8
4202  open(".config", O_RDONLY)         = 8
4202  open(".log", O_WRONLY|O_APPEND|O_CREAT, 0666) = -1 ERRNO_30 (Read-only file system)
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/update/src/init", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4202  open("/home/ig25/.mapleinit", O_RDONLY) = 8
4202  open("/home/ig25/.mapleinit", O_RDONLY) = 8
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/update/help.m", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/update/maple.ind", O_RDONLY) = 5
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/help.m", O_RDONLY) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/maple.ind", O_RDONLY) = 4
4202  open("/app/maple/lib/maple.lib", O_RDONLY) = 5
4202  --- SIGTERM (Terminated) ---
4201  --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) ---
4201  --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
4201  --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
4201  --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
4201  --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
4201  --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
4201  _exit(0)                          = ?

>  Thomas> (Dirk, it might be a good idea to check wether you have something
>  Thomas> like this in your environment; another suspect is the XKEYSYMDB
>  Thomas> environment variable).
>
>I have no such environment variable set as a design principle of Debian is to
>do the Right Thing (TM) without these variables

Could you run the same strace and compare it against mine?

BTW, here are my MD5 checksums of the two libraries in question:

$ md5sum /usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0 /usr/X11R5/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0 
825a30b219c625a129c8c5f8cb31c6dc  /usr/X11R5/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0
af7caf6f1e84f06f4ec1c53f6ce1147e  /usr/X11R5/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0

If yours differ, this may be a clue.
-- 
Thomas Koenig, Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet.
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
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>   Michael> I'd like to name the modules source file modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz,
>   Michael> the binary modules_2.0.0-8_i386.deb and the directory in which the
>   Michael> source is stored IMO should be modules_2.0.0.
> As the saying goes: You can't have the pie and eat it.

> There are conflicting goals: either we want to make clear that upstream
> sources are unaltered (which we agree is a good principle) and therefore name
> a source file modules-2.0.tar.gz or we strive for consistency and name it
> modules_2.0.0-8.tar.gz which looks as if we have altered the sources.
> But I very much like the idea of renaming the directory. After all, it
> contains pristine upstream material _plus_ our patches.

This is not how I understand the upcoming source handling.  I think the
only diff made to the original sources is that they unpack in a proper named
directory.  The patches are applied later but aren't part of the sources
files distributed with debian which will be named like
hello_1.3.4.orig.tar.gz (IIMNM).

Erick


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> Description: GNU permutated indexer
>  ...

`permutated' has lackingness of word-nature.

Ian.


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<egg_on_face_mode>

Ahem, I am sorry. I also get the 

[...]
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfDelete
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfDelete: delete-previous-character()' 

errors which I must have missed before when I started xmaple out of my
.fvwmrc. 

So you're right, one needs the environment variable. I guess the best place
to put it would be /usr/local/bin/xmaple. And could you mail it to me again
as I already deleted our previous mails? 

</egg_on_face_mode>

-- 
Dirk Eddelb"uttel                             http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd


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At 1996-08-12 03:48 +0000, Mark W. Eichin wrote:
>Second, the lock file names *have* to be world visible, in order for
>locking to actually work among users... hmm, your suggestion of a
>one-way hash make sense, I'll pass it upstream and see if it goes
>anywhere (xemacs has built in md5 support, but emacs19 doesn't.)

Since it doesn't need to be cryptographically secure, why not MD4?

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Package: pine
Version: 3.94-3

Pine does not use the proper <mailbox>.lock convention for locking the
mailbox.  It does do this if it has access to the directory to do so,
but if it doesn't it silently uses flock instead.

There are several problems here.

Those which need to be fixed urgently to avoid loss of mail:
 * Pine needs to be made secure when setgid mail (at the moment it
   isn't).
 * Pine needs to be setgid mail.

Those which need to be fixed:
 * Pine needs to have compiled into it the kind of locking it needs,
   to that it doesn't `fall back' to a different locking strategy thus
   creating a silent failure mode.  (A fallback locking strategy is a
   pointless exercise, of course.)

Those which should be fixed for other systems:
 * Pine should never use flock on a Linux system.  It should use fcntl
   instead.

I do believe this locking behaviour has been a persistent problem with
Pine, and I'm sad to see that it's still not right.

Ian.


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Hi,

> If /boot was the wrong place, please let me know so we can update
> kernel-package.  If /etc is the wrong place (and I think it is),
> please correct procps.

I would suggest /var/lib/ps/psdatabase and /var/lib/ps/psdevtab. (In the new
FHS "lib" may be renamed to "state"). Another place would be /var/run, but
/boot should not be touched/required after boot.

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I have uploaded mount_2.5k-1 (i386) to master.debian.org.

As this release fixes a serious security problem related to earlier versions
of the setuid mount/umount binaries, I would appreciate any attempt to
expedite movement of this package into the regular archives.


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Package: xcoral
Version: 2.5-1

Today, I decided to try xcoral.  The first operation I tried, upon
starting it, was New.  This was sufficient to kill the program, with
the error message:

X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  12 (X_ConfigureWindow)
  Value in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  924
  Current serial number in output stream:  930

It may be relevant that I'm using 9wm.

-- 
Raul


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osiris@cs.utexas.edu said:
> Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:
> 
> > In fact it would be nice if this message didn't go to you twice, but
...
> 
> I may have already said this, but for those interested, gnus will
> generally remove duplicates for you if you want it to.  It keeps a
> cache of incoming mail message ID's and can be cofigured to do

The procmail package also allowes you to set up a message-id cache. Have a look at formail(1) and at the `vacation' example in procmailex(5). 

			Cheers,
				Lukas

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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Buddha Buck wrote:

> > Package: ldso
> > Version: 1.7.14-4
> > 
> > [joey@kite] /lib>file ld.so*
> > ld.so:        Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
> > ld.so.1.7.14: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC), stripped
> > 
> > Looks like ld.so is still a.out. This is very annoying, because it means
> > that the a.out kernel module is most always loaded:
> 
> Of course, ld.so isn't used by ELF programs to load shared libraries, 
> ld-linux.so.1 is.  ls.so is used only by a.out programs, so offhand, I 
> don't see a problem with it being a.out.  In fact, it might not work if 
> it was ELF (I'm not sure of that lastpart)
> 
In the next release of ldso (1.8.2, I believe) it will be ELF.

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Ian Jackson:
> Do we start distributing Texinfo-generated HTML instead ? [...]
> Or do we do some kind of display-time conversion from info to HTML ?  

I'd suggest both. texi2html seems to do a nicer job than info2www,
but we shouldn't require people to install both HTML and Info versions
on sites where some people want HTML and others Info.

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> Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:
> 
> > In fact it would be nice if this message didn't go to you twice, but
> > I don't see any easy way to avoid this, short of writing more
> > functionality into the list manager.
> 
> I may have already said this, but for those interested, gnus will
> generally remove duplicates for you if you want it to.  It keeps a
> cache of incoming mail message ID's and can be cofigured to do
> anything you want with the duplicates.  I have it place them in a
> separate mail group which I just trash every now and then.

All very nice, but it dodges the major reason for people disliking duplicate
copies of messages: they pay for their PPP link (or UUCP feed, or whatever).
Identifying duplicates by their message IDs means that you have to download
both messages, unless you can do the filtering at your ISP's end of the link.

I'm not overly concerned personally at the moment - I'm at university, and
the government pays for my feed :-) - but it's generally not good etiquette
full stop.

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Dale Scheetz:
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> you twice, but I don't see any easy way to avoid this, 

Um, you can't just remove Ian as a receiver, given that he reads the list?
Or am I confused again?

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Michael Meskes:
> > XForms is not free (no source). Anything that uses XForms is not free,
> > because you can't compile it without XFree.
> 
> Okay. Thus it has to go into contrib. Right?

Yes. I think this is current policy, but I'm too lazy to check. (I just
like to rant on this issue. Facts are for lusers. :-)

> Can't we find a way to keep programs like this an official part?

We can say that contrib is an official part of Debian. And non-free as well.
They have different support policies, but that's true wherever they are.
I don't really see a need for a change here, but I leave that for others
to argue.

> alpha: Yes!

I forgot to ask about m68k, sparc, mips, and ppc. :-)
(But I guess everyone got the point, anyway.)

> I understand your reasoning. But I think it's sort of discriminatory because
> it's not under rex.

It may be just a matter of opinion. I don't think I have any further 
arguments, so it seems I can't convince you that it isn't discriminatory.

On the other hand, I don't care about non-free stuff enough to think too
carefully about it. That may mean I'll have to change my opinion, if someone
has really good arguments for another point of view.

In the mean while, I'm quite happy with the current situation.

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Package: mosaic, xserver-s3
Version: 2.7b5-2, 3.1.2-5

By playing with the globe icon while Mosaic was downloading a file (I
was trying to abort a transfer, but it wasn't working) my X session
was rendered inoperative.

The mouse and keyboard focus appeared to have become permanently lost.
I could see the mouse cursor and move it around, but it did not change
shape - it was locked on my xterm cursor shape, and twm thought that
the focus was in an xterm window.  Restarting window managers (I tried
twm and fvwm) and killing clients, including the xterm that things
seemed to think had the focus, had no useful effect.

Other clients I was using:
 workman - an a.out version whose origins are unclear to me
 xmix (Debian 2.1-1)
 unclutter -noevents (Debian 0.8-11)
 emacs (Debian 19.29-3)
 twm, xclock, xterm, xload, xbiff*3 (Debian xbase 3.1.2-9)

Ian.


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I'm not certain that distributing HTML with the packages and other formats
separately is a good idea. I think it might be a better idea to continue
as now and use on-line conversions from man and Info to HTML. Pre-converted
HTML should be distributed as separate packages.

Debiandoc (I really need to decide on a new name) can do the conversions.

I think the change is too radical until we've had some more experience
with how well using a web browser for all documentation access works.
I've been using Debiandoc for a while now, and it is decidedly not fast
enough to completely convert me from manual pages (when I know which
manual page I want -- searching for information is nicer with Debiandoc).

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Rob Leslie wrote:
> Package: base(?)
> Version: 1.1.0-14
> 
> During the initial installation of Debian 1.1, the user is asked for
> information which is used to construct an /etc/resolv.conf file.
> 
> However:
> 
>   - If the user enters more than one nameserver IP address, all the
>     addresses are listed on a single line in /etc/resolv.conf; they
>     should instead appear on separate lines, one for each address.
> 
>   - Both "domain" and "search" directives are present in the file.
>     These are mutually exclusive, and only the last instance is
>     effective.
> 
>     "domain" is in fact only a special case of "search" that implies
>     a particular pattern. For example, the following are equivalent:
> 
>         domain foo.bar.baz.com
>         search foo.bar.baz.com bar.baz.com baz.com

No, this has been changed in libc-4.6.* and above

H.J. Lu writes in the release notes for libc-4.6.20:
> With bind-4.9.3beta9, you may have to change /etc/resolv.conf. The
> resolver's default "search" list will be just the entire "domain" name
> rather than the sliding window it had before 4.9.2. This will make the
> default search list shorter, so folks who are saying "domain a.b.c"
> and relying on the implicit "search a.b.c b.c c" will miss "b.c" and
> "c". So what you have to do is add this line into your /etc/resolv.conf:
>  
> search  a.b.c b.c c


Thanks,

Peter

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branderh@debian.IAEhv.nl wrote:
> 
> [upstream maintainers getting debian bug reports]
> 
> Nevertheless I think that we can solve this by Adding an optional field
> to the Source part of the new control file: Upstream or Upstream-Maintainer
> with his/her preferred mail adress and optionally the name of the
> Maintainer.  Sometimes it is difficult to point to the upstream maintainer
> because it is a large group of people.  If this Upstream-Maintainer field
> exists the bug report system should add an small informative message to the
> bugreport and sent it to the Upstream-Maintainer.
> 
> Opinions? Suggestions? Anyone? Ian?

It seems like this is one of the debian maintainers duties. It seems
unlikely to me that most upstream maintainers are going to want to
to see most of the bug reports, which tend to be packaging issues.

Steve Greenland

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ig25@mvmampc66.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de said:
> Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:
> >
> >  Thomas>  But they're loaded by irisVxm, the graphical front end:
> >
> >Which I don't use ..., I use the xmaple shell script (see below).
> 
...
> 
> $ strace -f -e trace=open,execve,uselib,fork,_exit -o ~/xmaple.log xmaple
> 
> (and immediately exiting once it's come up).
...

I got a strace output similar to yours. My fix to get xmaple up and running 
was to create the following symlinks:
	/usr/X386 -> X11R5
	/usr/X11R5/lib/X11/nls -> ../../../X11R6/lib/X11/nls

			Cheers,
				Lukas

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Package: base
Version: 1.1.0-14

the: 
                        makedev idsn$no         c 45 $no $system
                        makedev idsnctrl$no     c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system
should read:
                        makedev idsn$no         c 45 $no $system
                        makedev idsnctrl$no     c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system

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Please send that diff again. The one in your report isn't right.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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I don't understand why, for example, /var/spool/mail needs to be
changed to /var/mail -- this seems like a candidate for a symlink.

I'm somewhat ambivalent about /usr/libexec/ -- in general code and
data are interchangable entities.  The issue that typically requires
these be stored in separate locations is architectural incompatabilities.
>From what I've read (which isn't anywhere the near complete story),
libexec isn't slanted towards storing different architectures' binaries
side-by-side...

Here's my question: given that I have not much time to spend on many 
issues, should I even get involved in FHS?  If so, where should I best
spend my time?

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Raul <rdm@tad.micro.umn.edu> writes:

> I don't understand why, for example, /var/spool/mail needs to be
> changed to /var/mail -- this seems like a candidate for a symlink.

This is under discussion right now.  There are several reasons to use
/var/mail and several reasons to stick with /var/spool/mail.

Reasons to do this include:

* SVR4 uses /var/mail
* BSD (Net/2 and later) uses /var/mail
* `mail' doesn't clearly fit the definition of spool data, unless you
  consider users to be a resource.  :-)
* Only other major OS that uses /var/spool/mail is SunOS 4.1.
* `mail' is a shared resource (between applications) and would seem to
  fit better under /var in a similar fashion to /var/lock, /var/log,
  /var/run, and /var/tmp.

Reasons to not change are:

* Transition difficulties.  People disagree about how hard it will be.
* No real functionality gain, haven't had any problems not using
  /var/mail thus far.

There are other reasons, of course, but these are the best IMHO.

And regarding the /var/mail symbolic link, I recently said (taken
slightly out of context):

# If any change means a permanent symbolic link, I have reservations
# about it.  Today, we could drop /usr/lib/sendmail with no problem.
# /etc/rmt is a different problem -- remote programs don't refer to
# /var/spool/mail, they use POP (or NFS if you accept or ignore the
# risks).
#
# In several years, we may be able to drop a /var/spool/mail ->
# /var/mail symbolic link, but if we really think we need a /var/mail
# symbolic link, common sense would tell us that it is better to move
# the directory now.
#
# All that being said, I *don't* think we need a /var/mail symbolic link
# and I am very doubtful that we will ever have a problem because of
# using /var/spool/mail.  I'm content to stick with /var/spool/mail, but
# I'm also happy to move to /var/mail if Linux distribution-makers think
# it's a better long-term move.

> [...]
> Here's my question: given that I have not much time to spend on many
> issues, should I even get involved in FHS?  If so, where should I best
> spend my time?

If you are interested, I would suggest you read the current FHS draft to
know where we are.  Sit and watch the mailing list until you're
comfortable with the discussion and jump in when you have something to
add to the discussion.  A lot of people lurk and only say something when
they get worried about the direction of the discussion.

Dan


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On 9 Aug, Ian Jackson wrote:
> qmail's author has taken a deliberate choice to be incompatible with
> things, and this means that we can either:
>  * mandate that everything support what qmail does
>  * live with not everything working when you use qmail.

But qmail does more than one thing so these statements are ambiguous.

> What precisely do you think I should put in the policy manual on
> this subject ?  I'm loath to mandate that every program support
> qmail's maildir format.

qmail's maildir format is not its default.  Yet I think we can
recommend some policies that would allow programs to support maildir
without having to be aware of maildir.  [e.g. run maildir2mbox from
a user's crontab -- this extreme only makes sense if user directories
are mounted from NFS.]

> Perhaps the qmail package should come with a local delivery agent
> that can do delivery into /var/spool/mail ?  It only has to be
> setgid mail, not setuid root.  That requirement would be the effect
> of the policy requirements as they're written atm.

Perhaps it's reasonable to specify that every mail aware program
supports the MAIL environmental variable.  As qmail's default behavior
is to deliver mail to ~user/Mailbox in standard unix mailbox format,
this should suffice.

Additional recommendations or specifications which open the door to
maildir compatability (e.g. that movemail be used to retrieve locally
stored mail -- allowing, at worst, the administrator to set policy by
replacing movemail) might also be reasonable.

-- 
Raul


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Hi,

> Please send that diff again. The one in your report isn't right.

sorry, forget to chage it :)

just replace idsn with isdn 2 times :)

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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Lindsay F. Marshall wrote:

> 
> > 
> > ------Error: zircon 1.16 1beta63 tcl 7.4p3 tk 4.0p3 tclX V7.4a patch 2
> 
> You *MUST* upgrade your zircon AT ONCE!!! You must be running at least
> V1.17p3 as there is a very serious security hole in *ALL* earlier
> versions. DOn;t run zircon until you have upgraded!!!
> 
> L.
> -- 
> http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Lindsay
> 
Thanks for the information...this version of zircon is included in the
debian distribution of the GNU/Linux operating system.  I am forwarding
you message to them as well.


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Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
attribute of a machine?

Yves Arrouye wrote:
> 
> Please do not use 0.* versions anymore.
> 
> The next release (1.0-1) will have a paperconfig paper configuration
> script instead of having /etc/papersize as a conffile.
> 
> Yves.
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Date: 13 Aug 96 17:16 UT
> Format: 1.6
> Distribution: unstable
> Urgency: Low
> Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org>
> Source: libpaper
> Version: 1.0-1
> Binary:  libpaper
> Architecture:  i386 source
> Description:
>  libpaper: Library for handling paper characteristics
> Changes:
>  * abstract interface (struct paper hidden) so that future changes
>  can be made safely.
>  * stores dimensions as double, still in PS points.
> Files:
>  6b55151261dc94a835e7581fa4c894dc  55776  text  -  libpaper_1.0-1.tar.gz
>  7d7feddde35dcf7f83a6096097ebc997  25340  text  optional  libpaper_1.0-1_i386.deb
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.6.2i
> 
> iQCVAwUBMhC4aQjpU7xgQoo9AQHK0gP/bD6Pd7Ab3VvzfXI+ikvJ9g/UMZrjaaSJ
> CZt7f1m3DDZAoKlwhiZGzZGoJzKFkWaqwlMl6tis7hZjOWOXjFeWeGMpxQl/nhpO
> j+SUKANSXAj/p2iCoryTm2dC1+RuAo6lkxu298wlCMPyJb6V2ts8XhhPaxejE2ST
> fLxdzD2Rp0w=
> =vXPH
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


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Package: sysklogd
Version: 1.3-10

On my system, it loops silently eating CPU time.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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> Package: base
> Version: 1.1.0-14
> 
> the: 
>                         makedev idsn$no         c 45 $no $system
>                         makedev idsnctrl$no     c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system
> should read:
>                         makedev idsn$no         c 45 $no $system
>                         makedev idsnctrl$no     c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system

You mean:

should read:
           makedev isdn$no       c 45 $no $system
           makedev isdnctrl@no   c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system

perhaps? :-)


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>Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
>attribute of a machine?

Paper size effect more that just printers.  Previewers and tex tools
come to mind, there may be others...

All I know is right now I've got to tweak quite a few things on a
standard debian 1.1 system so that dvips, xdvi, genscript, and a few
other programs work well and have the same idea of a default paper
size.

-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu			University of MN, ME Dept
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> Hmm.  Is it really worth byte-compiling such a small file ?

Byte-compilation depends much more on *speed* than size.  The
changelog mode doesn't do enough (I assume) to merit the speed
improvement... gnus, for example, really really needs to be byte
compiled.  mailcrypt, w3, vm, probably all do as well.  They also
happen to be big, but that's not the main issue, though there's some
correlation. 

Generally, if a package includes an elisp helper file, it probably
doesn't need to be byte-compiled. If the package is *written*
primarily in emacs, it's probably complex enough that speed is an
issue and should be byte compiled. In between it's a convenience
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This is a non-maintainer release.

Bug 3530 was really irritating me; I've had to put an ugly hack in
dinstall to deal with it.

I went ahead fixed the other 3 dchanges bugs as they were all trivial.

Date: 15 Aug 96 07:33 UT
Format: 1.6
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Source: dchanges
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 Fixed bugs 3530, 3531, 3305, 4003.
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Ferret extended description field has four empty lines in it.
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Package: lclint
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LCLint extended description field has one empty line in it.
The correct form is to have a single space followed by
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Package: mosaic
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Mosaic extended description field has an empty line containig
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Mr Stuart Lamble <sjlam1@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au> writes:

> All very nice, but it dodges the major reason for people disliking duplicate
> copies of messages: they pay for their PPP link (or UUCP feed, or whatever).

I wasn't thinking about this.  Good point.

--
Rob


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Package: xemacs
Version: 19.14-1

This message appears when I start xemacs on my NFS-client ("/usr"
mounted r/o):


WARNING:
couldn't find an obvious default for variable lock-directory, and there were
no defaults specified in paths.h when XEmacs was built.  Perhaps some
directories don't exist, or the XEmacs executable, /usr/bin/emacs is in a
strange place?.

Without lock-directory set, file locking won't work.  Consider creating
/usr/lib/xemacs/lock as a directory or symbolic link for use as the lock
directory.  (This directory must be globally writable.)


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Hi,

> > All very nice, but it dodges the major reason for people disliking duplicate
> > copies of messages: they pay for their PPP link (or UUCP feed, or whatever).
> 
> I wasn't thinking about this.  Good point.

umm... I'm not going to bring calculation examples.. usually you wont notice
a few mails eighter in a uucp batch nor in ppp background transmission. Of
course the duplicates are anoying, the problem is, that one has to use
eigther reply and modifier the target, or use group reply and remove the
author. Both is anoying and often i simply forget to. (Of course email
programs could be fixed to be able to deal with mailinglists which dont set
the From/Reply-To).

Greetings
Bernd


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I can create a new document with xcoral under 9wm if I sweep out the
initial size of the window to be larger than the default.  However,
something's still wrong as I can't display or preview images -- I get
an error message about a problem creating the dvi file.

-- 
Raul


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Subject: Re: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'
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Lars Wirzenius writes:
> > Can't we find a way to keep programs like this an official part?
> 
> We can say that contrib is an official part of Debian. And non-free as well.
> They have different support policies, but that's true wherever they are.
> I don't really see a need for a change here, but I leave that for others
> to argue.

I see. But then I think we should make a difference between binary-only and
packages like LyX for which we have the source except that one library.

BTW are there other reasons for packages to go into contrib?

And another question: Is it really a good idea to have one (release
independent) tree for contrib resp. non-free. Wouldn't it be better we have
contrib-1.1, contrib-1.2, etc.?

And finally we should that scan the rex tree for all these packages to move
them. As I understand all motif software belongs into contrib, too. And how
about the netscape installer?

> I forgot to ask about m68k, sparc, mips, and ppc. :-)
> (But I guess everyone got the point, anyway.)

I did. 

> It may be just a matter of opinion. I don't think I have any further 
> arguments, so it seems I can't convince you that it isn't discriminatory.

:-)

Michael

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Christophe Le Bars writes:
> wg15-locale install locale files in /usr/share/locale
> # dpkg -S /usr/share/locale
> wg15-locale: /usr/share/locale
> 
> libc6 must conflict with wg15-locale (<1-2) if the locale
> directory change...

Doesn't glibc use /usr/share/locale, too? The only difference I'm aware of
is /usr/share/i18n instead of /usr/share/nls. But then this already holds
for libc5 starting with 5.4.0

Michael

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I'm not sure if anyone else volunteered to take over symlinks from Bill. But
since I wanted to recompile it anyway (to get rid of the AOUT binary) I can
as well provide a new bug-free version. If anyone else wants to maintain it
feel free to do so.

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Date: 15 Aug 96 14:15 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: symlinks
Version: 1.0-3
Binary:  symlinks
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 symlinks: scan/change symbolic links
Changes: 
 symlinks (1.0-3) misc; urgency=LOW
 .
        * Mew maintainer
        * Made package architecture independent (Bug#3364)
        * Added 'Priority: optional' to control file
        * Recompiled for ELF (Bug#4144)
        * Corrected extended description (Bug#3614)
        * Manpage now gzipped
        * Binary is now dynamically linked
Files:
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Package: vlock
Version: 0.8-3

You can block a system for a while using vlock. Just type
vlock -a and press the <Return> key for a few seconds (or minutes).
Result: You can't log in for a couple of minutes.

There should either be an option to avoid the calls to the sleep()
function or vlock shouldn't accept keyboard input while it sleeps.


Thanks,

Peter

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Package: pixmap
Version: 2.6pl1-2

Pixmap crashes when I try to save an icon (it works with
some icons).

Here is an icon where pixmap crashes:

begin 644 xman.xpm.gz
M'XL("&`?$S("`WAM86XN>'!M`+6676O;,!2&KYM?<4COXDU9M[&UC($@,.C%
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M!+MW$L,3`D2GA.($AN",N16%B-U,/(,_HO%^+C70Q1$,MUR8R2%IVH4$ADU2
MV`6[C-0$#C+,VEXR9^A9CC&DAC.B&-!"8D0O(V&,E,:%2CB&$X,]C$B$'>;2
M$5Q5N-O#2)I$4N\:A@F^M"FR!QU&@^!BHDR8&6R)"$(,DX>("+Z0#A%KY!"S
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CE'9R`J#G_T/[*D\C]/S#G`IXYG_L:,:?#Z._<,)?N5<,````
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Thanks,

Peter

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Daniel Quinlan:
>  This is under discussion right now.  There are several reasons to
>  use /var/mail and several reasons to stick with /var/spool/mail.
...
>  * `mail' doesn't clearly fit the definition of spool data, unless you
>    consider users to be a resource.  :-)
...
>  # In several years, we may be able to drop a /var/spool/mail ->
>  # /var/mail symbolic link, but if we really think we need a
>  # /var/mail symbolic link, common sense would tell us that it is
>  # better to move the directory now.

I think you should look at this issue a bit differently.  In one
sense, both policies are broken -- delivering mail to a spool
directory requires sgid programs for the user to read mail (in the
usual sense).  A more secure and more robust solution would be to
deliver mail directly into the user's home directory.  For example,
      echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward

(Personal aside: I've not actually tried this under sendmail or smail
 -- I use qmail, which delivers to $HOME/Mailbox by default.
 Moreover, I've switched over to using $HOME/Maildir/ instead of
 $HOME/Mailbox.

 However, I've seen a problem report as recently as today about a
 popular user mail agent, that would not be a problem if mail were
 delivered into $HOME/Mailbox).

Changing from /var/spool/mail to /var/mail seems to me something of an
attempt to make a problem go away by giving it a gloss of varnish.
The change in nature mentioned to justify this change isn't really
addressed by the name change.

That said, I don't think FHS should care whether a system allows mail
to be stored under /var/mail/ or /var/spool/mail/ as long as the
symlink exists from the other name.  Installed user base is the only
valid issue here, and it pulls in both directions.  It's fine for FHS
to make a suggestion for newly created systems, but it's hard for me
to see what is gained by dictating for this case.

-- 
Raul


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Alexander O. Yuriev writes:
> 	I trust you are all aware of the information released to
> bugtraq/linux-security and linux-alert mailing lists about the vulnerability
> of mount/umount utilities in Linux.
> 	I'd really appreciate if you provide some official information on
> your distribution specific fixes for the upcoming Linux Security FAQ
> Update...

So who's going to answer this report officially?

Note, that the RedHat fix was already announced.

Michael
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Due to time constraints. Ie I am trying to finish
a computer science Masters degree while working
full time. I will be unable to maintain the
LCLint and mailx packages. If anyone wants to
take them then let me know. The mailx has a few
outstanding bugs related to signals and the 
LCLint has one with an error in the extended 
description file. Both are low maintenance
packages.

Thanks

Dale Miller
dale@csd.uwo.ca


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Date: 15 Aug 96 17:23 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Brian White <bcwhite@pobox.com>
Source: mime-support
Version: 2.02-1
Binary:  mime-support
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 mime-support: MIME files 'mime.types' & 'mailcap', and support programs
 -  As these files can be used by all MIME compliant programs, they
 -  have been moved into their own package that others can depend upon.
 -  .
 -  Other packages add themselves as viewers/editors/composers/etc by
 -  using the provided "install-mime" program.
Changes:
 -  Moved documentation into "mime-support" subdirectory (Bug#4106)
 -  Added new "realaudio" mime-type
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You (Andreas Jellinghaus) wrote:
> Package: gzip inn
> Version: 1.2.4-11 1.4unoff4-1
> 
> there is no compress programm. 
> news is not working o.k. (send-uucp depends on compress if you want to
> use compress (that's default)). 
> 
> compress should be a link to gzip ?

No, this is a bug in send-uucp. Well actually the script is ment to be
adjusted by the enduser (hmm should be a config file then), but it would be
nice if it ran out of the box.

Mike.
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> Ferret extended description field has four empty lines in it.
> The correct form is to have a single space followed by
> a single full stop character

Oops!  Okay, it'll be fixed in the next release (soon, hopefully).

By the way, for such tiny things, it's usually considered better
to just notify the maintainer instead of adding the overhead of
a full bug report.  If the maintainer doesn't fix it, then a bug
report should be submitted so it gets tracked.

                                        Brian
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Raul Miller said:
> Package: xcoral
> Version: 2.5-1
> 
> Today, I decided to try xcoral.  The first operation I tried, upon
> starting it, was New.  This was sufficient to kill the program, with
> the error message:
> 
> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for oper
ation)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  12 (X_ConfigureWindow)
>   Value in failed request:  0x0
>   Serial number of failed request:  924
>   Current serial number in output stream:  930
> 
> It may be relevant that I'm using 9wm.

To check whether 9wm might be relevant, I just tried xcoral under fvwm.
It seemed to work fine for me.

Susan Kleinmann


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I'm starting to package the newest version of 'gnats' (currently in late
beta).  Could I get this resolved soon?

> The entry for the "gnats" userid is currently set to...
> gnats:*:21:100:uucp:/var/spool/uucp:/bin/sh
> 
> It should be...
> gnats:*:16:65534:Gnats Bug-Reporting System (admin):/var/gnats-db:/bin/sh
> 
> If the userid & group should be changed from what I have, please let me
> know.  The 'gnats' userid currently logs on with group "nobody" which
> should probably be changed -- maybe to "user"? "staff"? "root"? "gnats"?

                                        Brian
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Bernd Eckenfels:
> umm... I'm not going to bring calculation examples.. usually you wont notice
> a few mails eighter in a uucp batch nor in ppp background transmission. 

Indeed, but it's the principle that matters. Spam isn't costing me
all that much either, but I still get furious when I get it.

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"Brian C. White":
> By the way, for such tiny things, it's usually considered better
> to just notify the maintainer instead of adding the overhead of
> a full bug report.  

I disagree. The bug list is not a shame pole! It's a trivial way for
users to reach maintainers -- there's only one address to remember.
The address in the package might be out of date.

This has been discussed before, of course.

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In article <m0uqJG8-0004Q5C@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> you wrote:

: > When mainstream is updated, hello-1.3 -> hello-1.4
: > Non-usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-0.1
: > Usual-maintainer updates, hello-1.3-8 -> hello-1.4-1
: > 
: > Usual-maintainer should never use -0 for revisions.
: 
: I think this seems reasonable.  I propose to mandate it.

Do it.

Bdale


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>>>>> Raul Miller writes:

[quotation removed]

> I think you should look at this issue a bit differently.  In one
> sense, both policies are broken -- delivering mail to a spool
> directory requires sgid programs for the user to read mail (in the
> usual sense).  A more secure and more robust solution would be to
> deliver mail directly into the user's home directory.  For example,
> echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward

That might work for you, but not for others: If your home directory
is located in an AFS volume, then you will either need to open the
directory to a certain pseudo-group/user for WRITES or your sendmail
(or whatever) will need to run with the CellAdministrator token.

Not good.

And /var/mail is standardized (to my knowledge) by SVID and XPG, so
why re-invent the wheel again?

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To: kaszeta@me.umn.edu (Richard Kaszeta)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:14:27 +0200 (MET DST)
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> 
> >Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
> >attribute of a machine?

Well, it could be argued that Yvess libppaper could look at
the current $PRINTER setting, and select the correct papersize
depending on the /etc/papersize.printer file or something. But
at the moment not very many programmes use libpaper or /etc/papersize,
so it's better to have them at least get to recognise a global
/etc/papersize than nothing.

> 
> Paper size effect more that just printers.  Previewers and tex tools
> come to mind, there may be others...
> 
> All I know is right now I've got to tweak quite a few things on a
> standard debian 1.1 system so that dvips, xdvi, genscript, and a few
> other programs work well and have the same idea of a default paper
> size.

Well, after you've done the tweaking, maybe it's worth the little
extra efford of mailing the patches to the maintainer/bug-system
and wait to see them included in the next release?
If you don't want to do that, could you send your patches to me,
so that try to handle it?

Thanks,

-- 
joost witteveen
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Winfried Truemper, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>Package: xemacs
>Version: 19.14-1
>
>WARNING:
>couldn't find an obvious default for variable lock-directory, and there were
>no defaults specified in paths.h when XEmacs was built.  Perhaps some
>directories don't exist, or the XEmacs executable, /usr/bin/emacs is in a
>strange place?.

This is odd.  It works fine as /var/lib/xemacs/lock on a couple
different systems here.  Can you check and see if /var/lib/xemacs/lock
exists and is mode 1777?  Also, are you sure you're using the right
xemacs?  Unless you renamed it, the xemacs in my package is
/usr/bin/xemacs, not /usr/bin/emacs.

Darren
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On 16 Aug 1996, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:

torin> different systems here.  Can you check and see if /var/lib/xemacs/lock
torin> exists and is mode 1777?  Also, are you sure you're using the right

Oh, I'm so stupid. Of course /var/lib/xemacs/lock does not exist
because the package was installed on the NFS-Server and my poorly
maintained client does only mount /usr without updating the rest of
the system.

Time to set up rdist.

Sorry for the bug-report, it's superfluououous.


-Winfried


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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:

>So you're right, one needs the environment variable. I guess the best place
>to put it would be /usr/local/bin/xmaple.

This would certainly fix the specific Maple problem, but I suspect
there may very well be more packages with the same problem.  It's
not Maple - specific; it could bite anything which uses the xcompat
package.

Either setting export XWINHOME=/usr/X11R6 in /etc/profile or
recompiling the old X libraries to use /usr/X11R6 if /usr/X386
isn't there should be the Right Thing.

I'll be reassigning this to the xcompat package, unless there are strong
objections.
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Raul Miller writes:

>I think you should look at this issue a bit differently.  In one
>sense, both policies are broken -- delivering mail to a spool
>directory requires sgid programs for the user to read mail (in the
>usual sense).  A more secure and more robust solution would be to
>deliver mail directly into the user's home directory.  For example,
>      echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward

This is a bad idea if the home directory is NFS-mounted from a remote
system; IME file locking under NFS is very easy to get wrong.  (Not
that all mailers get locking right even on local file systems...)

Additionally, a system might well have different backup or quota
policies for mail and ordinary user data, which is a good reason to
keep them separate.

-- 
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Package: xbase
Version: 3.1.2-9

If you shutdown -r|h with running xdm-daemon you get:
"start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill xxx: No such process"
This is because start-stop-daemon kills xdm and the local
X-displayserver too - which gets killed by xdm. 

To get rid of this annoying message you should include in /etc/init.d/xdm
(sorry no diff):

stop)
	start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --pidfile /var/lib/xdm/xdm-pid \
			  --exec /usr/bin/X11/xdm                 \
								   \
# Attention: look at FSSTND, Chap. 5.3.5 "The xdm-pid file should___\
# be placed in /var/lib/xdm despite the existence of /var/run." 
# You must change in /etc/X11/xdm-config the resource 
# "DisplayManager.pidFile" to point to /var/lib/xdm-pid.
# If FHS rules this should be: /var/state/xdm/xdm-pid ???

BTW I won't discuss the mandated location per FSSTND or FHS - I don't know
the history. I also don't understand why you (here I don't mean YOU
personally) should use "xdm-pid" as it is clearly stated in both
"standards" you should use "packagename.pid".



Michael Gaertner <gaertnem@ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
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I've got a somewhat strange problem: I fixed a bug and tried to close
the bugreport, but somehow the message does seem to arrive at bugs.debian.org
The problem only occurs with this specific bug. Anyone got any ideas on
why this occurs on how it can be fixed?

Here is the message I got from sendmail:

Forwarded message:
> From MAILER-DAEMON@wi.leidenuniv.nl  Wed Aug 14 13:56:36 1996
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:56:36 +0200
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> 
>     **********************************************
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>     **********************************************
> 
> The original message was received at Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:00:55 +0200
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> 
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> Message-Id: <199608121103.NAA12040@ipx206aa.wi.leidenuniv.nl>
> Subject: Re: grep description: no ext
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> package: grep
> 
> The new grep_2.0-6 has completly revamped debian files which feature
> architecture-checking and an extended description. This should fix
> bugs #3595 and #3334.
> 
> Greetings,
>   Wichert.
> 


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> 
> Package: pixmap
> Version: 2.6pl1-2
> 
> Pixmap crashes when I try to save an icon (it works with
> some icons).


You've got a 8bpp display! 
(well, I just think you don't have a 16bpp display, as get
pixmap dump core upon loading your file)


Thanks for the bug-report, though. I've removed the
hints/comment write support in pixmap (at least that's
what I think it is), and your file seems to be saved
more or less correctly now (I can re-load, and it looks
the same. But the resuting file cannot anymore cause a
cordump with the old pixmap).

Because I am unsure I've done the right thing with the
patch, I don't want to upload the new pixmap to master.
I've put it on ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/joost/pixmap_2.6pl1_4*
for you (and other interested parties) to try out, and
I've asked the pixmap mailinglist for more advice.

-- 
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On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

> "Brian C. White":
> > By the way, for such tiny things, it's usually considered better
> > to just notify the maintainer instead of adding the overhead of
> > a full bug report.  
> 
> I disagree. 

We seem to be divided fairly evenly on this issue.

> The bug list is not a shame pole!

Objections to reporting something as a bug are not founded on this
concept. No one feels personaly "put down" by a bug report. Those of us
who object to "trivial" bug reports are more concerned about the
distribution's public perception. The new user is apt to see a "security"
bug and a "blanks in description" bug as having equal weight. Large
numbers of outstanding bugs also leave new users feeling uncertain.

> It's a trivial way for
> users to reach maintainers -- there's only one address to remember.

No, the trivial way to reach maintainers is to start with debian-user.
Case in point:
Recently a user reported smtp problems with pine. This problem turned out
to be a configuration issue, unrelated to any functional problems with the
pine software. By reporting the "bug" on debian-user first, a non-bug bug
report was avoided.

> The address in the package might be out of date.
> 
And it might not be...

> This has been discussed before, of course.
> 
And it seems we will continue to disagree. I see no harm in encouraging
users to talk to me first about problems with my packages, and I will
continue to do so. I see no reason for those who disagree with this
attitude to continue to point it out.

If we really need to grind on the differences in our personal philosophy
we should probably do it on debian-private (or maybe just private mail).

Luck,

Dwarf

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You (Christophe Le Bars) wrote:
>  > Doesn't glibc use /usr/share/locale, too?
> 
> Well, I don't know... 

I do. That's the reason I started this thread: should it or shouldn't it?
I've deciced it should, and I'm configuring glibc to use /usr/share.

Now should we move /usr/lib/zoneinfo too? What does the FHS say?

(Mind you I'm working on the Alpha port so I don't have a reason to
 desire backwards compatibility).

Mike.
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On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Erick Branderhorst wrote:
>I was wondering why the mflib postinst script creates directories:
...
>Isn't it better to include these in the directory structure of the package?
Didn't think of that. Yes. of course.

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Package: latex
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The following input file fails with a 'cannot find dc1000.mf' error

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

\begin{document}
Testing \LaTeX\ and trying to figure out font encodings.

\end{document}

Versions of my TeX installation:

ii  kpathsea        2.6-2          Path searching for TeX & friends
ii  mfbin           2.71-4         Metafont - TeX's font engine
ii  mfnfss          2.1g-2         Use additional Metafont fonts with LaTeX
ii  mflib           1.0-8          Auxiliary files to run Metafont
ii  mfbasfnt        1.0-4          TeX's default fonts and a few others.
ii  latex           2e-7           Write structured documents with TeX
ii  ltxmisc         1.0-1          Additional small styles for LaTeX
ii  ltxtool         1.0-3          Add on macro packages for LaTeX
ii  texbin          3.1415-5       TeX - The typesetting system
ii  texlib          1.0-4          Auxiliary Files to run TeX
ii  texpsfnt        1.0-1          Virtual fonts and TFM's to use Postscript fo
ii  textfm          1.0-3          TeX standard font metric files



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Try <3595-done@bugs.debian.org>

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Package: bsdmainutils
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[joey@kite] /tmp>su
Password:
[root@kite] /tmp>write joey
write: joey is logged in more than once; writing to ttyp1
write: you are uid 0, but your login is as uid 500
[root@kite] /tmp>

I don't know if this is meant to be a security feature of what, but I only
log in as root via su, and it is sometimes useful to write to people as
root. I've not seen write exhibit this behavior on other linux systems
(slackware, redhat). Can this check be turned off?

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Package: less
Version: 321-1

When I run less on a 0 byte file, it displays its help screen (same as
if you less a normal file and press 'h').

Example:

[joey@kite] ~/work>touch foo 
[joey@kite] ~/work>less foo

                   SUMMARY OF LESS COMMANDS

      Commands marked with * may be preceded by a number, N.
      Notes in parentheses indicate the behavior if N is given.

  h  H                 Display this help.
  q  :q  Q  :Q  ZZ     Exit.

  e  ^E  j  ^N  CR  *  Forward  one line   (or N lines).
...

I hesitate to report this as a bug, but it's really annoying me, as I
expect that if I look at a zero byte file, I'll just see 
"foo line 0/0 (END)". I do a double-take every time I look at some empty
log file and get the less help screen. I've used less in slackware,
redhat, etc, and those versions of less all work as I expect. Does anyone
know how to get the behavior I want with debian's less?

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This one has to go into both releases as it fixes a security bug.

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Date: 16 Aug 96 12:44 UT
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Distribution: stable unstable
Urgency: High
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: sudo
Version: 1.4.4-2
Binary:  sudo
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 sudo: Provides limited super user privileges to specific users.
Changes: 
 sudo (1.4.4-2) admin; urgency=HIGH
 .
        * Fixed major security bug reported by Peter Tobias
          <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
        * Added dchanges support to debian.rules
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 5d9cfbcb52bda23e5cf2be350c8df965  15996  admin  -  sudo_1.4.4-2.diff.gz
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Package: bash
Version: 1.14.6-4

It seems some example files are installed twice:

$ ls -l /usr/doc/examples/bash /usr/doc/examples/bash/examples

/usr/doc/examples/bash:
total 7
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root          742 Nov  2  1992 alias-conv.sh
drwxr-xr-x   5 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 examples
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 functions
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 scripts
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 startup-files
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         1458 Feb 28  1991 suncmd.termcap

/usr/doc/examples/bash/examples:
total 6
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root          742 Nov  2  1992 alias-conv.sh
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 functions
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 scripts
drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         1024 Apr 10 16:41 startup-files
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         1458 Feb 28  1991 suncmd.termcap

Michael

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> >      echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward

Richard Kettlewell:
> This is a bad idea if the home directory is NFS-mounted from a remote
> system; IME file locking under NFS is very easy to get wrong.  (Not
> that all mailers get locking right even on local file systems...)

This is a symptom of flaws in NFS and in the standard unix mailbox
format.  One possibility is to go to a more robust format (e.g.
qmail's Maildir).  Another possibility is to live with NFS's failures
:-(

However, my point was that /var/mail is somewhat broken -- that it's a
viable workaround for other brokenness doesn't get rid of this
underlying point.  I'd like to see it treated as a standard of
marginal importance...
 
> Additionally, a system might well have different backup or quota
> policies for mail and ordinary user data, which is a good reason to
> keep them separate.

This tends to result in people mailing files to themselves (mail quota
larger than regular quota) or reaping the mailbox frequently (mail quota
smaller than regular quota).  You might say that reaping the mailbox
frequently is a good thing because it keeps the mail spool from
getting full.  This isn't even worth discussing.

-- 
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> > echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward

Dominik Kubla:
> That might work for you, but not for others: If your home directory
> is located in an AFS volume, then you will either need to open the
> directory to a certain pseudo-group/user for WRITES or your sendmail
> (or whatever) will need to run with the CellAdministrator token.

I don't know enough about AFS to have a clue what this means.

What's a CellAdministrator token?
What's WRITES?
What's the point of a pseudo-group or a pseudo-user?

Let me check my assumptions:

At a minimum, I presume that on a unix system that a process running
under some person's userid can access the user's home directory some
significant fraction of the time.

Then again, I wouldn't be suprised to hear that sendmail fails utterly
under all sorts of random conditions.  I don't mind seeing a mail
spool defined for use by programs with as many flaws as sendmail...  I
just am hoping that such failure modes don't become too ingrained into
the standards.

> And /var/mail is standardized (to my knowledge) by SVID and XPG, so
> why re-invent the wheel again?

Hmm.. I wonder why XPG wasn't mentioned earlier?  Then again, I don't
know what the relationship of FHS is to SVID and XPG...

-- 
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I wrote earlier:
> Indeed, but it's the principle that matters. Spam isn't costing me
> all that much either, but I still get furious when I get it.

Dirk pointed out that equating a couple of superfluous Cc's from 
debian-devel with spam isn't exactly polite. Sorry, I was writing too
quickly again.

Spam does make furious, extra Cc's from mailing lists don't. They
just annoy me (see signature), and in theory they do cost me a bit.
Not enough to make me worry about it, but enough to write kilobyte after
kilobyte about it.

I do wish that people wouldn't Cc me when I read the mailing list. I feel
that it is good netiquette not to do that.

This may be a mark that we or I don't think there is enough real problems
with Debian. Hm, perhaps the three month release schedule is one: we have
one month left for the next release, and we're just about to make a big
change in source packaging? Perhaps it would be better to wait an extra
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Hi,

this is not a bug. Due to copyright reasons the dc fonts, which use
the T1 encoding, are no more in the mflib package. You got to get the
package "mfdcfnt_1.0-1_all.deb"; It's on "Incoming/" right now (at
least in our mirror here).

Ciao, Emilio.


>>>>> "RK" == Richard Kaszeta <kaszeta@me.umn.edu> wrote:

RK> Package: latex
RK> Version: 2e-7

RK> The following input file fails with a 'cannot find dc1000.mf' error

RK> \documentclass{article}
RK> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

RK> \begin{document}
RK> Testing \LaTeX\ and trying to figure out font encodings.

RK> \end{document}

RK> Versions of my TeX installation:

RK> ii  kpathsea        2.6-2          Path searching for TeX & friends
RK> ii  mfbin           2.71-4         Metafont - TeX's font engine
RK> ii  mfnfss          2.1g-2         Use additional Metafont fonts with LaTeX
RK> ii  mflib           1.0-8          Auxiliary files to run Metafont
RK> ii  mfbasfnt        1.0-4          TeX's default fonts and a few others.
RK> ii  latex           2e-7           Write structured documents with TeX
RK> ii  ltxmisc         1.0-1          Additional small styles for LaTeX
RK> ii  ltxtool         1.0-3          Add on macro packages for LaTeX
RK> ii  texbin          3.1415-5       TeX - The typesetting system
RK> ii  texlib          1.0-4          Auxiliary Files to run TeX
RK> ii  texpsfnt        1.0-1          Virtual fonts and TFM's to use Postscript fo
RK> ii  textfm          1.0-3          TeX standard font metric files

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Package: grep
Version: 2.0-5

  Reproduce by:

	# grep foo /proc/kcore
	Segmentation fault (core dumped)

  While grepping on /proc/kcore is something you would not ordinarily
  do, grep should still not dump core.  I originally stepped on this
  with "find / | xargs grep foo".

  System stuff:

	Linux uluru 2.0.0 #2 Tue Jul 23 16:32:09 PDT 1996 i686
	Debian 1.1
	/lib/libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.2.18

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Luckily I can provide you with a patch:

diff -Nur orig/nn-6.5.0.b3.linux.1.1/db.c nn-6.5.0.b3.linux.1.1/db.c
--- orig/nn-6.5.0.b3.linux.1.1/db.c	Thu Nov 25 10:39:33 1993
+++ nn-6.5.0.b3.linux.1.1/db.c	Sat Aug 17 00:46:41 1996
@@ -962,7 +962,7 @@
     actfp = nntp_fopen_list("LIST");
   } else
 #endif
-    actfp = fopen(relative(news_lib_directory, "active"), "r");
+    actfp = fopen("/var/lib/news/active", "r");
 
   if (actfp == NULL) {
     nn_exitmsg(1, "could not fetch active file\n");

Regards,

	Joey


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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
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message to forwarded@bugs.debian.org.

OVER 16 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   660 gdb        GDB gets address of structure  David Engel <david@ods.com>
   725 xbase      twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   740 xbase      xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   773 xbase      xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   775 xbase      twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   797 termcap-co /etc/termcap console keydefs f Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
   818 bash       bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
   820 tcsh       tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
   821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
   825 trn        trn warning messages corrupt t jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
   836 termcap-co Possible bugs in termcap syste Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 15 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   887 xarchie    xarchie barfs when ftp closes  Christian Linhart <chris@debian
   889 info       Info 3.1-6                     Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
   902 lpr        lpr can't print a PostScript f Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde

OVER 14 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   911 libc4      libc causes rsh to fail on com (unknown -- `libc')
   957 dpkg       dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
   988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
   998 boot-flopp Can't Configure DOS Partitions Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1009 bash       bash problem with quoting/comp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1016 procps     top has 3's in vt100           Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>

OVER 13 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1037 dpkg       dselect user interface (was Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1045 termcap-co tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd) Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1061 lpr        /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  1099 perl       perl bug                       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1108 binutils   No manpage ar(5)               David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1112 gsfonts    a2gs output unusable by gs but joost witteveen <joostje@master
  1118 fortune    fortune is setuid games ?!     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1130 libc4      Stdlib.h problems when using g (unknown -- `libc')

OVER 12 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1164 shellutils who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1170 perl       perl fails to make headers fir Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1176 procps     /usr/bin/top segfault with unk Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1201 perl       perl doesn't know about includ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1211 libc4      libc __nis_getgrnam() segfault (unknown -- `libc')
  1239 findutils  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  1240 procps     ps(1) man page incomplete      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1246 procps     ps man page does not agree wit Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1247 perl       perl <...> globbing only works Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1265 uucp       Misc. uucp bugs                dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe

OVER 11 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1275 xarchie    xarchie clumsy with 2-button m Christian Linhart <chris@debian
  1278 libc4      dpkg seg faults with NIS       (unknown -- `libc')
  1279 libc4      Strangeness involving <bsd/sig (unknown -- `libc')
  1281 bin86      bin86                          (unknown -- `bin')
  1292 xserver-sv X locks up                     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1303 binutils   `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1314 ncurses3.0 ncurses fails in silly way on  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  1336 procps     CFLAGS shouldn't be used when  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1366 acm        acm networking problems        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  1372 boot-flopp rootdisk: no dvorak keytable   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1378 libc4      weird ELF/a.out difference     (unknown -- `libc')
  1381 workbone   workbone postinst fails        dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1399 dpkg       dselect error handling not con Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1406 dbackup    backup postrm can fail when it dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1411 perl       perlconfig misses an opportuni Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1429 bibtex, kp several TeX packages Provide t Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1451 ghostview  `ghostviewR6' conflict with gh Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1467 ax25-kerne `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-ut (unknown -- `ax')
  1480 dpkg       start-stop-daemon doesn't chec Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1481 smail      smail paniclog suggestion      Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1488 dld        dld control file dsccription p gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  1502 ltxtool lt Uniform lists in debian.contro Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1526 dpkg       man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1532 repair     no revision number with repair Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1533 procps     `w' produces bogus login@, idl Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1549 bash       bash should not have world-rea Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1555 dpkg       dselect per-screen-half focus  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1560 shellutils `su' produces incomplete log e daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1616 shellutils 'who' can't find utmp          daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1621 xbase      Xmark has no manpage           Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1624 bash       thermal run away problem       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1642 dpkg       dpkg recursive package listing Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1647 texbin     dpkg can present incorrect inf Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1653 texbin     Missing dvicopy(1) man page.   Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1663 texbin     TeX comes without configuratio Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1664 texbin     TeX is lacking documentation o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1670 dpkg       start-stop-daemon is too slow  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1672 ftp.debian non-free packages              Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1681 cron       Missing files                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1685 libc4      dpkg-split --msdos not correct (unknown -- `libc')
  1686 mfbin      psfonts.map can't be found     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1690 xbase      XDM protection fault on X conf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1691 xbase      X config allows invalid numeri Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1693 smail      forwarded message from Harald  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1699 base       Install/Config quirks: Missing Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1702 bash       telnet+su root->thermal proces Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1703 xtron      xtron documentation            Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  1707 kernel     image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1708 adduser? m `passwd' not interruptible whe Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1711 adduser    adduser replaces NIS entries i Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1713 procps     procps: manpage doesn't tell t Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1714 bash       bash is confused when breaking Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1742 base       /dev/tty has wrong permissions Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1744 kernel     dpkg: cannot scan updates dire Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1746 bash       rsh <system> sh -i produces CP Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1747 nas        nas: no manpages for au availa Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  1759 kernel     running out of swap causes dea Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1771 ltxtool    Legal problems with ltxtool    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1774 libc4      <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH conta (unknown -- `libc')
  1791 dosemu     dosemu troubles                Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  1796 xserver-s3 missing call to ntohs in X ser (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  1797 dpkg       upgrade/downgrade dependency c Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1799 smail      smail nameresloving problems   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1803 termcap-co /etc/termcap linux definition  Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1818 dpkg       configure ordering based on Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1819 xbase      X11 doesn't set a lock on the  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1823 texbin     texbin postinst failed with er Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1834 bash       [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1845 trn        dead.letter and dead.article a jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  1853 procps     top fails after 130 processes? Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1855 base       packages adding entries to /et Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1856 perl       creating perl header files     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1858 kpathsea   kpathsea package does not inst Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1865 kpathsea   cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable:  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1873 dvipsk     dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize! Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1874 a2ps       a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!   (unknown -- `a')

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1879 emacs      Emacs shell mode weirdness - l Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  1881 majordomo  Majordomo UID wrong?           Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1885 base       base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1901 kbd        `compose' keytable command not Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  1908 procps     Top and tabs                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1914 kernel     general protection in unix_pro Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1916 perl       perl: wrong entries in Config. Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1921 dpkg       update-alternatives prompt, dp Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1922 kernel     1.3.43 Kernel is too nice      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1929 smail      aliasinclude and forwardinclud Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1933 procps     w from procps gives wrong idle Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1934 mfbin      font scaling problem           Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1954 base       setting up the network         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1955 base       base discs still aren't creati Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1962 kernel     kernel needs sbpcd.h editing i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1972 perl       perl should suggest kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1973 workbone   workbone postinst needs reword dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1981 xcontrib   xman fails to format ascii(7)  Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  1984 workbone   dpkg won't install cdtool      dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1985 xbase      xdm won't redirect to remote m Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1989 kernel     mmap bug?                      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1997 ncurses3.0 ncurses linux terminal definit (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2001 base       Incorrect ownership of audio d Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2009 mailx      mailx ignores ^C at Subject pr Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2010 mailx      mailx misses VM-generated From Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2011 libc4      very silly messages from rsh   (unknown -- `libc')
  2022 general    utmp corruption                debian-devel@pixar.com
  2023 texbin     latex dumps core on -QUIT      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2027 kpathsea   tiny bug in web2c debian.rules Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2037 bibtex     bibtex not searching $TEXINPUT Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2038 texbin     tex man page has unexpanded ma Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2039 xserver-ma X server font erosion          (unknown -- `xserver-mach')
  2051 xntp       /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handl Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2054 latex,xdvi no subject (file transmission) Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2063 kernel     scsi driver sequence unreasona Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2064 kernel     aha1740 driver only supports o Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2067 lynx       lynx -source can't find docume Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2068 shellutils su doesn't su.                 daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2070 base       /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2076 ncurses-bi reset(1)                       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2085 ncurses3.0 /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs C (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2099 ax25-util  slip module stops axattach     (unknown -- `ax')
  2104 dvipsk     dvips doesn't provide color    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2105 kernel     console error messages "Source Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2110 bash       Bash tab completion of non alp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2112 inn        Submission for INN doc file    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2122 xdvik      xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2158 ncurses-te new ncurses bug ?              Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2159 procps     "ps pids" lists more than just Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2161 binutils   elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld ca David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2167 timezone   timezone zdump for US zones gi Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2169 timezone   timezone zdump utility should  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2170 timezone   timezone: it needs more docume Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2171 timezone   timezone: how to determine zon Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2177 strace     "strace -ff -o file dpkg --ins Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  2182 perl       perl shouldn't touch /usr/loca Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2183 emacs      emacs shouldn't touch /usr/loc Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2184 perl       perl's sys/socket.ph causes wa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2185 mflib      texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?   Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2186 texlib     national hyphenation patterns  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2196 ytalk      ytalk `shell' option can't run Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2197 hdparm     hdparm -c switch               Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  2198 uucp       uuxqt can't execute rmail      dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2200 ghostview  Description                    Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2205 most       Description                    Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  2206 rsynth     Description                    Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  2209 dld        Description                    gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2211 auto-pgp   Description                    Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  2220 inn        INN feed password interacts ba Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2231 mathpad    mathpad problems               Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2233 groff      groff-1.09-4                   Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2235 emacs      emacs eats manual pages        Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2241 perl       Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2242 mc (Midnig mc should depend on ncurses3.0 Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2243 xbase      xterm vanishes when it's big ( Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2251 perl       Perl coredumps while invoking  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2254 perl       perl doesn't initialize variab Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2265 bash       bash `horizontal scroll' can't Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2267 emacs      emacs ange ftp fails           Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2275 timezone   ctime(3) should be replaced by Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2284 mailx      mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends m Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2291 ncurses3.0 missing terminfo capabilities  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2292 shellutils date does not support dates pa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2293 uucp       uucp should compress big files dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2295 lynx       (no subject)                   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2296 bugs.debia debian-bugs WWW doesn't say ho Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2297 xbase      xterm gets mouse-paste and RET Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2298 trn        trn bug with shell escaping    jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  2301 bash       bash doesn't document any way  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2302 rcs        RCS - problems with msdos file Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2304 mount      umount calls gethostbyname() a Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2309 adduser    Multiple root accounts         Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  2311 svgalib1-b svgalib has undocumented setui (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2313 xbase      xterm keymapping problems susp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2318 emacs      Emacs makes it hard for MTAs t Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2321 libc5 (and libc doesn't use **h_aliases ( (unknown -- `libc')
  2334 mh         MH scan -width dumps core      Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2345 shellutils Inclusion of shadow breaks up  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2346 mh         MH can lose mail               Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2348 smail      Smail fails to define NO_PETER Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2353 xterm-colo postrm script broken           Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>

OVER 5 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2356 mailx      mailx -- problems with TMPDIR  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2357 dvipsk     dvipsk generated PS causes `re Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2360 xbase      xdm cannot find a free VT      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2362 bash       bash (readline) dumps core on  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2365 pine       Pine erases message before I c Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2367 pine       Pine supplies PATH line when p Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2379 svgalib1   svgalib postinst broken        (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2387 libc5-dev  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documente (unknown -- `libc')
  2392 emacs      Emacs mishandles fonts under X Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2402 procps     ps no longer understands `g' o Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2405 perl       perl postinst messages re unct Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2417 emacs      emacs inferior process buffers Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2423 smail      scattered sendmail links       Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2425 ispell     ispell thinks `formated' is co Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  2427 procps     top d 60 fails                 Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2430 kermit     kermit configuration script is (unknown -- `kermit')
  2431 emacs      Emacs mishandles X fonts.      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2439 sysvinit   rc?.d scripts sometimes not ru Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2440 perl       sys/socket.ph produces spuriou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2450 cdtool     `cdir' prints out huge chunks  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2455 svgalib1   can't install svgalib1-1.28-5  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2460 procps     bizarre output from `free'     Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2463 kernel     "msdos" filesystem needed for  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2470 kernel     in kernel Attached ether adapt Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2474 ncurses-bi /usr/bin/reset does the wrong  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2475 at         `at' uses middle-endian 2-digi Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2476 emacs      emacs mucks up my email addres Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2477 emacs      annoying bug in emacs          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2478 emacs      ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2479 emacs      ange-ftp is incredibly ineffic Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2481 general    /sbin/ldconfig in scripts      debian-devel@pixar.com
  2483 libdb1     libdb1 uses not-yet-completely (unknown -- `libdb')
  2484 libgdbm1   libgdbm1 conflicts with some v (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  2486 xwpe       Ghost packages                 dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  2493 gcc        GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied e David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2495 perl       perl requires tcsh (as it is c Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2501 perl       (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2502 perl       configure fails if /vmlinuz is Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2503 elv-ctags  elvis and emacs both provide c mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill
  2504 libdb1     remove -m486 from Makefile     (unknown -- `libdb')
  2510 rxvt       rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2520 procps     procps needs dependency on ncu Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2524 base       problems with base package     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2530 bind       bind locks up system           Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2531 dpkg       install-info should use better Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2532 emacs      Emacs fails to use `set -e' in Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2536 dpkg       dpkg inappropriately marks pac Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2538 base       audio devices have different g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2542 netatalk   No default config files?       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2547 tf         tf does not support visual mod Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2556 lpr        "\031\1"                       Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2557 elm        add to elm manpage             Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2562 elm        elm manpage paths incorrect    Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2569 boot-flopp bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2573 libc5-dev  sysinfo system call not in lib (unknown -- `libc')
  2575 ytalk      ytalk lies about who you are t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au

OVER 4 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2576 dpkg       base: selecting [A]ccess with  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2589 perl       perl can't load libdb.so.1     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2590 perl       new revision of perl does not  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2591 dialog     rootdisk                       David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2592 elvisnox   Elvis Compilation Peoblem      sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  2593 perl       perl tries to install in /usr/ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2603 dpkg       dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when inst Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2604 ash        ash: cc: Internal compiler err Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2610 libg++27   support for m68k-linux         (unknown -- `libg++')
  2621 texbin     unstable/texbin install fails  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2630 emacs      emacs package needs to break c Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2634 emacs      emacs hung                     Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2648 mh                                        Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2650 win32binut win32binutils has /usr/bin/fle (unknown -- `win')
  2658 perl       Errors during perlconfig       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2661 mh         dist and mh both have a dist m Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2664 dpkg       arrow keys fail in dselect not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2671 timezone   timezone Mexico/General doesn' Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2682 timezone   Zoneinfo library has a name-cl Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2688 base       base: wrong group for rft* dev Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2689 xemacs     (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2690 netatalk   netatalk: a few small problems Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2691 perl       new perl break suid scripts    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2692 kernel     kernel swap space problem      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2699 ytalk      ytalk doesn't use FQDNs        Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2701 seyon      seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't wo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2709 emacs      emacs should list /usr/lib/ema Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2710 xterm-colo colour xterm has problems when Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2714 emacs      Emacs and XEmacs share files   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.

OVER 3 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2717 general    conffiles in /usr              debian-devel@pixar.com
  2721 procps     free fails to understand recen Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2728 procps     top coredump                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2731 emacs      emacs with gud creates ~/.term Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2733 mailx      /usr/bin/mail leaves lock file Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2737 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv: missing source  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2738 boot-flopp Installing Debian 1.1          Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2739 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2740 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2741 base       First booting with Debian 1.1  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2758 dld        dld: missing source file       gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2762 ax25-kerne ax25-kernel-source: missing so (unknown -- `ax')
  2764 texpsfnt   texpsfnt: missing source file  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2765 ax25-util  ax25-util: missing source file (unknown -- `ax')
  2774 syslinux   syslinux: missing source file  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2785 timezone   Timezone has static library?   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2789 elm        elm doesn't show rest of pgp-s Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2796 sysvinit   sysvinit makes obsolete symbol Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2802 apache     apache tweaks                  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2803 xdvik      xdvi does not handle redraws o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2806 ncurses3.0 ncurses man pages internal inc (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2810 uucp       uucp postrm should use -f flag dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2812 apache     Apache server: SECURITY HOLE   Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2818 bash       bash doesn't provide enough do Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2819 bind       named loses (in an easily fixe Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2822 inn        Some minor glitches with the i Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2823 mc         mc segfaults on reconnect of f Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2825 nvi        restricted movement in nvi     Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  2828 dpkg       have to install xosview twice  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2829 emacs      emacs: gdb says: slashes aren' Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2834 dpkg       desect loses state if it can't Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2839 xemacs     Xemacs problems                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2840 base       Conflicting entries in login/g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2841 procps     top produces `$<3>' at end of  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2850 boot-flopp nfs.o isn't loaded in clean de Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2852 g77        Bug 2711: g77 does not include (unknown -- `g')
  2856 bash       fd leak in bash                Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2861 manpages   glob(3) references glob(7); th Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  2863 ncurses-ba dselect and ncurses in select  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2870 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug             awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2874 gpm        gpm will not work if the syste Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2876 svgalib1   svgalib will not work in a set (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2884 tkman      tkman doesn't use /var/catman  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2889 base       no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 bo Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2891 taper      taper documentation is missing Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  2892 setserial  setserial marked as Essential  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  2894 dpkg       dpkg guidelines info files not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2895 base       base -- incorrect passwd entry Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2896 libdb1     postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libdb')
  2899 libreadlin postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libreadline')
  2904 dpkg       install-info doesn't cope with Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2906 glibcdoc   Inconsistency in libc.info re  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2908 sysvinit   mesg sets wrong permissions on Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2909 gcc        GCC Info has funny formatting  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2910 gcc        GCC accepts multi-line strings David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2911 dpkg       Conffiles are deleted too late Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2913 ipx        ipx bootup scripts are broken  mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  2919 fort77     very bad fort77 installation m (unknown -- `fort')
  2920 base       incorrect entry for nobody in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2927 base       /usr/info/dir in base confuses Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2928 base       nobody has wrong login shell   Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2929 dpkg       dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.     Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2933 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002      awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2934 apache     Some cgi scripts don't work    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2937 bootdisk   Copyright message function key Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2938 procps     libproc is in wrong place      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2939 dpkg       Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2940 kernel     image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2942 timezone?, Wrong timezone for Europe/Wars Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2945 rootdisk   Bus Error given by rootdisk    Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  2946 lynx       Lynx gives fatal error message Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2956 bootdisk   beta experience                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2959 shellutils date +%Z bug                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2962 ncurses3.0 dselect arrow keys don't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2964 lynx       lynx -dump fails through proxy Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2965 lynx       lynxexec not compiled into lyn Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2966 bugs.debia bugs2ftp is broken             Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2969 man        zsoelim [in man] is confused b Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  2970 groff      soelim [in groff] is confused  Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2971 mailx      mailx doesn't quit on two succ Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2972 mfbin      MetaFONT linked against X libr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2973 dpkg       install-info created 5 Develop Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2978 base       May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[3 Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2982 xntp       xntp calls ntpdate at start    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2989 rxvt       rxvt source bug                Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2991 elm        nfrm is not installed...       Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2998 bugs.debia bugs2ftp still flaky           Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  3002 base       majordomo has conflicting grou Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3019 kernel     no 386 support in kernel_image Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3026 xbase      xbase et al postinst doesn't f Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3027 base       updatedb can't run properly    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3031 boot-flopp various boot-floppies nits     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3036 base       automatic adduser/addgroup in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3038 lpr        SOLVED: can't remove print job Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3039 base       MAKEDEV script does not create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3040 kernel     Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3042 elm        Elm produces bogus Content-Typ Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3046 smail      Smail configuration problem?   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3047 cron       cron script problem?           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3050 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser man page installed  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3052 guile      guile is missing slib.info.gz  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3053 gnats      gnats: typo in postinst omits  bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. Whi
  3056 ash        ash-source contains objects    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>

Over two months old - attention is required:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3064 boot-flopp need a pointer in /usr/doc/boo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3066 general    a.out binaries in various pack debian-devel@pixar.com
  3067 xaw3d      broken libXaw3d                (unknown -- `xaw')
  3070 base       base copyright string          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3073 xbase      xbase contains imake and xmkmf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3075 lpr, magic lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts fa Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3077 mfbin      gray font .mf files missing fr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3080 procps     error message in syslog caused Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3084 timezone   missing timezones              Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3087 shellutils Bug in date.                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3093 perl       Perl dumps core                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3095 xbase      xbase kills xdm and *then* ask Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3096 lxtools    lxtools: user error (misuse of Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3098 man        man-2.3.10-11 segfaults        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3102 procps     top has problems when not on c Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3105 lynx       lynx access to dot files is di Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3106 kernel     v 1.1 beta kernel image not fo Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3107 nas        nas postinst could use a warni Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3109 man        man 9menu unpleasant           Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3110 xbase?     X servers muck up xdm when uni Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3112 uucp       UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3113 ncurses3.0 dselect provokes ncurses probl (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3115 taper      taper recommends ftape         Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3119 emacs      emacs font handling            Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3121 boot-flopp boot-floppies doesn't have bas Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3122 debianutil run-parts should ignore RCS    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3124 cern-httpd CERN httpd sends useless cron  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3125 dpkg       bug (and correction) in dpkg-1 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3128 mc         mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3130 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3135 psnfss     psnfss has no Architecture fie Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3140 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bug Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3142 rootdisk   1.1 installation and large par Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3143 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3146 base, ae   1.1 installation: ae doesn't w Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3147 rootdisk   May 19 boot floppies...        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3149 base       upgrading base truncates utmp  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3151 sendmail   Sendmail runs too late         Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3153 inn        inn ctlinnd not readable/execu Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3155 spice      spice still on my system       (unknown -- `spice')
  3156 lpr        lpr and smail uuname returned  Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3158 most       most differs from man page     Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3161 general    Newbie 1.1beta installation.   debian-devel@pixar.com
  3162 xbase      disconnects between ncurses-ba Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3163 ncurses-ba disconnects between ncurses-ba Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3164 smail      runq dumps core                Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3165 manpages   fcntl(2) references nonexisten Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3169 genscript  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papers Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3170 dpkg       again dpkg --root=xxx          Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3174 bash       set -i doesn't work in bash    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3176 mandelspaw mandelspawn slave problems     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3177 bash       sh -nc <command> actually runs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3179 emacs      emacs ctags segfaults          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3180 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml semantics and fo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3183 base       permissions problems with /var Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3185 bootdisk   Lack of NCR53c810 support on b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3186 xfractint  Can't chdir                    Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3190 libc5      rlogin takes far too long when (unknown -- `libc')
  3191 ncurses-bi reset(1) doesn't bring an xter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3192 ncurses-bi tset(1) man page problem       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3195 kernel     "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fail Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3196 ispell     ispell symlinks broken         Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  3197 procmail   wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/proc Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3198 dviljk     dviljk is still aout! :-(      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3199 lists.debi Bizarre message from debian-de Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3202 dviljk     dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! : Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3206 rc         rc terminates on CTRL-C        Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3207 ncurses3.0 strange screen update choices  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3208 amd        amd bug                        Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3212 perl       Perl recommends nonexistent pa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3213 fortune    fortune need libc.so.4         dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3216 auto-pgp   auto-pgp doesn't remove info e Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3218 dpkg       install-info adds Miscellaneou Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3220 man        apropos dumps core             Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3223 guile      guile installs entry for slib, Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3224 apsfilter  apsfilter doesn't configure on Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3225 dpkg       dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems fr Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3227 login      login refuses, and then allows Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3230 perl       why the hell does perl depend  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3231 base       /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not pr Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3233 dpkg       dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2n Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3240 libdb1     [libdb]: obsolete bugfix       (unknown -- `libdb')
  3241 emacs      derived.el fails in emacs      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3242 perl       perl's dependencies are wrong  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3244 libc5      (no subject)                   (unknown -- `libc')
  3245 mc         mc should depend on gpm        Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3246 xcompat    Cant load library libXt.so.6   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3247 lilo       Lilo unpack removes boot.b     Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3250 cfingerd   cfingerd descriptive text      Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3252 base       base template /usr/info/dir ma Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3253 pine       Pine over-encodes files (came  Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3258 kernel     pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3259 util-linux [c]fdisk does not recognize NE Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3260 procps     psupdate man page out of date  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3265 kernel     kernel-image and PS/2 mouse pr Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3267 xbase      Unqualified hostnames in rstar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3268 kernel     network modules don't work wit Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3269 bootdisk   bootdisk silently fails-change Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3272 rootdisk   bug in root disks...           Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3275 kernel     dpkg --no-act leaves control i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3277 perl       nit: perl setup emits a \n     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3279 bootdisk/r ne2000 lockups during instalat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3280 gpm        (no subject)                   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3283 perl       /usr/bin/perlconfig should be  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3284 giftrans   giftrans is free               Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3287 maelstrom  (no subject)                   Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3292 xcal       xcal app-defaults shouldn't be Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3295 perl       perls debian.rules doesn't wor Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3296 perl       /bin/perl is not updated       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3300 xserver-sv xserver-svga configuration     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3304 rman       [rman] Off-by-one in generated Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3307 ddd-smotif ddd-smotif does not replace dd Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3308 xmanpages  X(1) manpage in wrong place?   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3312 mathpad    installation and startup probl Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3314 base       On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3315 base       Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>

Over one month old:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3317 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml info files are m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3319 deliver    deliver does not set exit code Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3320 bootdisk   Kernel oops - problem with APM Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3321 libgdbm1   libgdbm.so version number...   (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3323 mflib      MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3327 cern-httpd cern-httpd postinst hangs if d Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3328 gawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3335 libdb1     Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libdb')
  3336 less       Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3342 libgdbm1   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3345 libreadlin Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libreadline')
  3348 patch      Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3349 procmail   Problems encountered while com Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3350 procps     Problems encountered while com Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3353 bash       Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3359 shellutils Problems encountered while com daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3361 byacc      Problems encountered while com dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3362 mingetty   Problems encountered while com Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  3363 timezone   Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3366 smail      Problems encountered while com Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3370 cern-httpd httpdconfig installs Welcome.h Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3372 mgetty     mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3373 gpm        gpm -k hangs if X server runni Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3374 cvs        CVS wrappers can't be turned o Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3382 workbone   workbone disappears during upg dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3384 apache     apache leaves /var/log/httpd n Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3385 xosview    xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (agai joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3386 lynx       lynx version number changes    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3387 base       base leaves /tmp/base.postinst Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3393 kernel     printer-driver problem in kern Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3395 xbase      can't login via xdm            Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3396 tcsh       tcsh doesn't provide c-shell   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3397 kernel     (no subject)                   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3400 emacs      gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-1 Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3406 dpkg       dselect unreadable under xterm Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3407 fvwm2      fvwm2: WindowList infelicity   Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3408 passwd     Various bugs in passwd manpage Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3409 base       Could not make boot floppy     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3410 dpkg       some problems/bugs/suggestions Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3413 pcb        linked with aout libXaw        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3415 latex      Xdvi and postscript fonts      Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3420 rootdisk   Boot disk creats corrupted fil Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3421 base       /tmp installs wrongly          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3422 ncurses3.0 termcap entry too long error   (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3423 perl       Problems installing kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3431 www.debian some packages have no informat Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3433 cfingerd   weird output if cfingerd.conf: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3434 perl       pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cu Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3437 fvwm       fvwm should not recommend fvwm Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3439 login      Login reconfigures serial port Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3442 python     python postinst is very verbos Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3451 rootdisk   Missing label 'llseek' in e2fs Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3454 ucbmpeg    ucbmpeg control file problems  Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3456 a2gs       a2gs prompt looks like `please (unknown -- `a')
  3457 diald      diald control file problems    Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3458 dviljk     dviljk missing prompt for inpu Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3459 inn        inn should Depend on inewsinn, Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3462 inn        INN postinst and configuration Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3466 tcsh, csh  tcsh, csh should use update-al Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3467 cern-httpd cern-httpd curious message     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3468 textfm, te textfm and texlib file conflic Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3469 lynx       lynx default home page         Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3470 apache     apache problems                Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3475 xpaint     xpaint Recommends pbmplus      Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3476 cnews      cnews description is gibberish Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3477 cnews, ine cnews and inews should be same Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3478 bind       bind should use lowercase `non Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3480 mkisofs    missing information in manpage Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3483 enscript   using args with spaces in gens (unknown -- `enscript')
  3486 cern-httpd forwarded message from Cron Da Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3488 rootdisk   basedisks modconf problems     Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3489 rootdisk   basedisks configuration proble Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3490 adduser    adduser password-setting probl Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3491 rootdisk   basedisks newly booted system  Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3493 base       Teles ISDN card installation b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3495 npasswd_bo doesn't respect nis/yp         Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3497 smail      smail calls obsolete yp_order  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3503 uucp       still a.out (and src doesn't b dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3505 bind       ndc does not use start-stop-da Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3507 bind       named postinst mangled my conf Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3508 guile      guile doesn't have right permi Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3509 ucbmpeg    mpeg_play puts bogus statistic Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3510 nas        removal of nas doesn't kill 'a Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3511 debianutil typo on installkernel man page Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3514 dialog     Required package modconf depen David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3515 gdb        gdb prints corrupted message   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3516 kernel     SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can ca Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3517 inn        innd won't remove syslog.conf  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3521 mc         mc core dumps                  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3525 j1         j1 hard-linked docs/manpages   (unknown -- `j')
  3529 ftp.debian libgr and zlib1 collide, but d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3533 rc         Problems encountered while bui Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3535 taper      Problems encountered while bui Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3538 bash       bash on m68k doesn't use ncurs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3539 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if an error occu Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3540 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a problem occ Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3541 libc5      rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED! (unknown -- `libc')
  3542 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3543 git        Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3544 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3545 pgp-i      Problems encountered while com Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3547 mc         Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3548 acm        acm description: no ext        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3550 amstex     amstex description: no ext     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3551 automake   automake description: summary  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3552 aout-binut aout-binutils description: no  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3553 aout-librl aout-librl description: no ext Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3554 bdflush    bdflush description: summary s Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3557 base       base description: no ext       Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3558 beav       beav description: ext extra sp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3559 acs        acs description: no ext        adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3561 bash       bash description: no ext       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3562 elviscmn   elviscmn description: no ext   sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  3565 dbview     dbview description: ext extra  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3566 dejagnu    dejagnu description: summary s Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3567 byacc      byacc description: no ext      dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3568 bin86      bin86 description: no ext      (unknown -- `bin')
  3569 emacs-el   emacs-el description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3571 fortune    fortune description: summary s dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3572 dld        dld description: ext start ind gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3573 diald      diald description: ext start b Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3574 binutils   binutils description: no ext   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3575 boot-flopp boot-floppies description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3578 dlltools   dlltools description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3580 f2c        f2c description: no ext        (unknown -- `f')
  3582 electric-f electric-fence description: no Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  3583 fort77     fort77 description: no ext     (unknown -- `fort')
  3584 g77        g77 description: ext start ind (unknown -- `g')
  3586 findutils  findutils description: no ext  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3587 gnuplot    gnuplot description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3588 git        git description: ext extra spa Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3590 libjpeg6a  libjpeg6a description: ext sta (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3592 ipx        ipx description: no ext        mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3594 gwm        gwm description: no ext        Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3595 grep       grep description: no ext       Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  3596 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3598 ghostview  ghostview description: ext sta Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3599 gdb        gdb description: no ext        David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3601 minicom    minicom description: no ext    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3606 lynx       lynx description: ext extra sp Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3607 rc         rc description: no ext         Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3608 libjpeg6a- libjpeg6a-dev description: no  (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3609 shellutils shellutils description: no ext daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3610 xfntcyr    xfntcyr description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3611 libwww-per libwww-perl description: no ex Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3612 libdb1     libdb1 description: no ext     (unknown -- `libdb')
  3613 mh-papers  mh-papers description: no ext  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3616 less       less description: ext extra sp Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3617 mawk       mawk description: ext extra sp Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3620 most       most description: summary star Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3621 lxtools    lxtools description: no ext    Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3626 libg++27   libg++27 description: no ext   (unknown -- `libg++')
  3628 modconf    modconf description: no ext    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3629 pmake      pmake description: no ext      Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3630 ncpfs      ncpfs description: summary sta mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3631 oleo       oleo description: no ext       Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3632 nis        nis description: summary start Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3635 pcb        pcb description: no ext        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3637 w3-el      w3-el description: no ext      (unknown -- `w')
  3638 setserial  setserial description: no ext  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3640 tkdesk     tkdesk description: ext start  Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3641 unarj      unarj description: ext start i Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.a
  3642 syslinux   syslinux description: no ext   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3643 taper      taper description: no ext      Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3644 procmail   procmail description: no ext   Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3645 slang-deve slang-devel description: ext e Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3647 timezone   timezone description: summary  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3649 win32libs  win32libs description: no ext  (unknown -- `win')
  3650 xfntbig    xfntbig description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3651 win32gcc   win32gcc description: no ext   (unknown -- `win')
  3653 win32binut win32binutils description: no  (unknown -- `win')
  3654 xcoral     xcoral description: summary st Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3655 wenglish   wenglish description: no ext   Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3657 xfnt100    xfnt100 description: no ext    (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3661 xlib       xlib description: no ext       Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3662 xslib      xslib description: no ext      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3663 xfntscl    xfntscl description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3664 workbone   workbone description: no ext   dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3665 xfnt75     xfnt75 description: no ext     (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3670 idanish    idanish description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3671 dosemu     dosemu description: no ext     Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3672 idutch     idutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3673 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3675 xwpe       xwpe description: no ext       dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3677 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3678 xxgdb      xxgdb description: no ext      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3680 auto-pgp   auto-pgp description: ext star Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3682 wswedish   wswedish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3684 rsynth     rsynth description: summary st Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3687 wfrench    wfrench description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3688 wnorwegian wnorwegian description: no ext jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3691 witalian   witalian description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3697 wdutch     wdutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3698 wspanish   wspanish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3699 xpaint     xpaint description: summary st Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3700 www.debian Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3703 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a permission  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3704 dpkg       Weird dselect behavior (bug?)  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3705 procmail   procmail does close(-1)        Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3707 elm        Problems encountered while com Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3711 uucp       Problems encountered while com dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3712 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3713 p2c        Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `p')
  3714 term       Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3717 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3718 ash        Problems encountered while com Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3720 shutdown   shutdown prints "You don't exi (unknown -- `shutdown')
  3721 termcap-co Problems while compiling "term Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  3725 man        Another data point on apropos  Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3726 ed         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3727 bc         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3730 xbase      improper lookup of window mana Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3734 xbase et a X11 problems                   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3735 cern-httpd cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn o Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3737 xosview    xosview uses -O3 -f...         joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3739 man        `man -l -' for stdin doesn't w Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3740 modconf    A couple of problems popped up Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3742 tcpdump    tcpdump doesn't notice icmp pa Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3743 netpbm     Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3747 setserial  "setserial" doesn't support mu Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3748 fvwm       Pixmaps missing from fvwm pack Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3750 xserver-s3 X server inaccessible sometime (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  3751 xbase      xconsole stops logging when sy Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3752 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3753 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3754 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3755 xaw3d      xaw3d shouldn't automatically  (unknown -- `xaw')
  3756 sendmail   sendmail has wrong path to pro Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3759 ghostview  xxgdb and ghostview have bad M Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3761 lilo       LILO installation problem      Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3762 setserial  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usuall Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3765 dpkg       dpkg and kernel-* package name Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3766 man        "man" acting too smart.        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3770 perl       dodgy `\n' in perl postinst    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3772 lilo       lilo should not depend on MBR  Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3773 xless      xless default window too thin  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3775 login      upgrading login temporarily br Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3777 util-linux mkfs.minix option parsing oddi Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3782 bsdmainuti GNU nm breaks lorder           Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3784 perl       perl does not install on base  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3785 perl       perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") an Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3786 base       base includes anonymous ftp ac Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3787 tin        tin uses /etc/news/description Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3788 man        `apropos' matches only word-su Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3789 mbr        `mbr' package doesn't say how  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3791 cfingerd   Problems with "cfingerd" when  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3792 netpbm     Problems with "netpbm" when co Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3793 pmake      bsd.lib.mk incompatible with G Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3794 adduser    adduser should not be essentia Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3798 passwd     passwd should not be essential Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3799 timezone   timezone should not be essenti Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3800 setserial  setserial should not be essent Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3801 ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0 should not be essen (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3803 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3804 npasswd-bo npasswd-boulder doesn't change Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3805 base       /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3808 ppp        ppp postinst gives error       Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3809 base       /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still aro Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3812 apsfilter  Apsfilter should depend on fil Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3814 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3815 bsdutils   "ndc stats" fails              Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3816 uucp       uucp is still a.out            dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3818 fortune    fortune is still a.out !       dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3823 gdb        Gdb's `handle' command behavio David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3824 exmh       exmh fails to start            Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  3825 libc5      %p either misbehaves or misdoc (unknown -- `libc')

Submitted in the last month:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3827 tk40       Tk4.0's bell flashes the displ (unknown -- `tk')
  3829 ncurses-bi tic.1 refers to unavailable in Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3830 ncurses-bi captoinfo confused by /etc/ter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3832 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3833 nis        Manual pages for some yp* prog Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3834 squid      squid core dumps regularly     Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3835 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3837 xv         Why isn't xv linked with the l Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3839 autoconf   autoconf wants `nawk'          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3842 tkdesk, tk tkdesksh grows really large    Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3843 ncurses-ba dselect resets automargins in  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3845 compface   invalid directories in compfac Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3846 lynx       lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3847 perl       Perl & G++                     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3848 a2gs       "a2gs" requires changes to sup (unknown -- `a')
  3849 acm        "acm" requires changes to supp Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3850 cern-httpd "cern-httpd" requires changes  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3851 acs        "acs" requires changes to supp adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3852 cnews      "cnews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3853 dld        "dld" requires changes to supp gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3855 fortune    "fortune" requires changes to  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3856 guille     "guile" requires changes to su (unknown -- `guille')
  3857 xcontrib   listres dumps core             Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3861 adduser    when adduser runs finger it di Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3862 inews      "inews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3865 j1         "j1" requires changes to suppo (unknown -- `j')
  3866 hdparm     "hdparm" requires changes to s Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  3869 nntp       "nntp" requires changes to sup Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3870 p2c        "p2c" requires changes to supp (unknown -- `p')
  3872 pcb        "pcb" requires changes to supp Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3873 xosview    Xosview hangs when a dummy net joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3874 perl       Archive of perl 5.003-2 is bro Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3875 lynx       Lynx thinks *.deb files are "t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3876 cron       checksecurity shouldn't search Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3877 svgalib1-d /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  3878 adduser    adduser --home aborts if dir e Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3879 adduser    adduser: man page has '=V' str Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3881 rspfd      "rspfd" requires changes to su Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3885 umsdos     "umsdos' requires changes to s Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3886 tf         "tf" requires changes to suppo Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3888 workbone   "workbone" requires changes to dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3890 uucp       "uucp" requires changes to sup dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3892 rootdisk   mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbo Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3895 mgetty, ne file conflicts: mgetty vs netp Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3896 mgetty     /sbin/mgetty is not world-read Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3897 mgetty     mgetty syslogs with priority ` Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3898 mgetty     mgetty has bogus errno in usag Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3899 mgetty     mgetty doesn't remove logfiles Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3900 mgetty     mgetty doesn't work            Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3902 base       base disks' network configurat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3904 ncurses3.0 ncurses on mono linux console  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3905 base       base disks still install part  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3906 xbase      Errors in the Compose file for Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3908 perl       perl h2ph problem              Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3911 a2ps       "a2ps" requires changes for mu (unknown -- `a')
  3912 wnorwegian "wnorwegian" requires changes  jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3913 idanish    "idanish" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3914 wdutch     "wdutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3915 biff       "biff" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3917 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3921 kpathsea   "kpathsea" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3922 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3923 witalian   "witalian" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3925 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  3926 wspanish   "wspanish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3927 wfrench    "wfrench" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3928 wswedish   "wswedish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3930 giftrans   "giftrans" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3931 idutch     "idutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3932 rsynth     "rsynth" requires changes for  Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3936 uucp       uutraf dumps core in gmtime()  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3937 uucp       uutraf has repeated words in m dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3939 man        /etc/manpath.config is not a c Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3940 apache     Apache's default index.html sa Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3942 tin        tin cannot find Newsgroup Desc Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3944 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  3950 inn        INN message size limitation to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3952 less       Less annoyances                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3953 tk41       Tk 4.1's bell flashes the disp (unknown -- `tk')
  3954 xcontrib   xload dont needs tu run suid   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3955 bison      yacc script uses $* instead of Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  3961 zoo        14 character file name limit i Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3962 pixmap     Pixmap "calloc" problem        joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3963 abuse      abuse                          Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3966 bind       nslookup: fatal flex scanner i Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3967 nvi        hex codes instead of 8-bit cha Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosof
  3968 rootdisk   installation checks for CD-ROM Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3969 apache     Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole     Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3970 cvs        cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3973 ncurses-bi Home/End keys don't work right Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3974 ncurses3.0 problem with arrow keys in dse (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3975 netpbm     netpbm is mostly free          Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3978 lists.debi problem (re)subscribing to deb Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3980 netstd     netstd many compiler warnings  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3983 base       Wrong entry in /etc/group      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3984 libc5      NIS writes error message to ST (unknown -- `libc')
  3986            inconsistency between base and (unknown)
  3988 kbd        Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard m Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3989 procps     `w' produces corrupted output  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3990 xbase      xdm-errors location not what F Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3991 dpkg       dselect has confusing and biza Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3993 mount      users can't umount user mounts Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3994 base       ae won't deinstall             Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3999 kernel     nfs module fails to load       Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  4000 emacs      emacs can't initialize x windo Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4002 base       base wipes out utmp & wtmp     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4004 syslinux   procinfo breaks without module Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4005 lynx       Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *. Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4007 netstd     identd doesn't seem to be corr Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4008 cvs        CVS texinfo docs won't format  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4009 base       /bin/edit causes error after a Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4011 gcc        simple c++ program segfaults   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4012 xbase      xbase: `window-managers' was u Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4013 groff      groff version is old           Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  4014 netpbm     netpbm is missing manual pages Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4015 xbase      xterm & xterm.color sets broke Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4016 elvisctags ref not in elvisctags          sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4017 bootdisk   boot disk doesn't recognize NC Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4019 Boot1440.b Decompression failure on Insta (unknown -- `boot')
  4020 base       Base shouldn't contain /var/ru Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4021 auctex     "auctex" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4023 mgt        "mgt" requires changes for mul Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com
  4024 cvs        "cvs" requires changes for mul Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4026 pcb        "pcb" requires changes for mul Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4027 xless      "xless" requires changes for m Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4028 motifnls   "motifnls" requires changes fo Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4030 sam        "sam" requires changes for mul Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  4031 vm         "vm" requires changes for mult Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4032 rxvt       "rxvt" requires changes for mu Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4033 xosview    "xosview" requires changes for joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4034 elvis      "elvis" requires changes for m (unknown -- `elvis')
  4035 xbmbrowser "xbmbrowser" requires changes  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4036 xcontrib   "xcontrib" requires changes fo Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4037 xtel       "xtel" requires changes for mu Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4038 untex      "untex" requires changes for m Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  4040 x10        "x10" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `x')
  4041 xtrlock    "xtrlock" requires changes for Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4042 unclutter  "unclutter" requires changes f dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  4043 xearth     "xearth" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4044 tkined     "tkined" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4045 electric-f "electric-fence" requires chan Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  4046 xpaste     "xpaste" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4047 makeindex  "makeindex" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4048 dosemu     access permissions for /usr/bi Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4051 fdutils    access permissions for /usr/bi Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.o
  4052 bison      access permissions for /usr/bi Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4053 dosemu     a) still a.out b) script: i ha Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4056 xserver-s3 mouse cursor in X3 server is c (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4060 boot       Kernel decompression failure.  (unknown -- `boot')
  4061            Debian                         (unknown)
  4062 procps     running ps as root does not re Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4063 magicfilte magicfilter has wrong path     David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  4064 sendmail   sendmail should recommend deli Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4065 sendmail   FEATURE(local_procmail) needs  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4066 xserver-s3 strangeness with X3 server     (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4067 Umsdos     Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.    Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  4068 perl-tk    pgs in perl-tk does not work   Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  4069            slrn gives error               (unknown)
  4071 hyperlatex ps2gif has incorrect pathname  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4072 cpio       cpio package is missing rmt.8  Brian Mays <brian@debian.org>
  4073 make       make pattern rules delete inte Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilg
  4074 dpkg       problems with 1.1 release      Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4075 lrzsz      Possible security problem with Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  4078 lyx, ftp.d lyx should be in `contrib'     Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.o
  4081 xosview    xosview doesn't install a bina joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4082 fvwm       No documentation for fvwm modu Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4084 tar        New tar may be broken.         Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
  4085 sendmail   /etc/init.d/sendmail does not  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4086 netstd     rsh segfaults with baudrate=11 Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4087 xcontrib   xgc dumps core                 Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4088 ghostview  ghostview does not put filenam Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4089 base       problems with rc.local         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4091 netstd     Ftp does not wait for user ans Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4092 procmail   procmail docs not owned by roo Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  4093            start-stop-daemon fails to kil (unknown)
  4096 abuse      abuse is still a.out           Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  4097            smail cron jobs don't test if  (unknown)
  4099 fvwm2      typo in fvwm2 man page         Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4100 pixmap     pixmap dumps core (bad depth?) joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4101 xpostitplu xpostitplus loses previous pos (unknown -- `xpostitplus')
  4102 sp         sp and LaTeX problems          Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net>
  4103 slrn       slrn epends on unavailable sla Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4104 ghostview  ghostview does not obey %%Boun Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4105 xterm-colo making slrn work in a color xt Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  4107 emacs      emacs leaves stale lockfiles a Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4109 gs         "gs" requires changes for mult joost witteveen <joostje@master
  4110 g77        "g77" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `g')
  4112 postgres95 "postgres95" requires changes  (unknown -- `postgres')
  4114 xasteroids "xasteroids" requires changes  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4115 xcoral     "xcoral" requires changes for  Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4116 xpaint     "xpaint" requires changes for  Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  4117 xwpe       "xwpe" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  4118 xosview    xosview doesn't use XUSERFILES joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4120 netstd     rdist & ssh                    Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4121 ppp        ppp setup bug (postinst?)      Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4123 gnuchess   "gnuchess" requires changes fo Nikhil Nair <nn201@cus.cam.ac.u
  4124 xmanpages  typo in XtOpenApplication manp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4125 libpaper   libpaper should ask for papers Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4126 ssh        ssh & gpm                      (unknown -- `ssh')
  4127 uucp       uucp uses /usr/spool           dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4128 diald      ppp/diald interaction          Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  4129            dselect 1.3.0 infelicity       (unknown)
  4130 xcompat    Old motif applications don't r Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4131 base       majordom -- 30 or 31?          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4132 netstd     Could popclient be changed to  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4133 samba      Samba goes into busy loop?     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4135 dpkg       dpkg-source must attent to VER Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4136 dpkg       debian-changelog-mode.el broke Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4137 libpaper   libpaper contains compressed m Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4138 libpaper   libpaper /usr/bin/paper is lik Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4139 libpaper   libpaper /etc/papersize is aut Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4140 dosemu     dosemu package is lacking its  Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4141 rsynth     "say" is an a.out binary       Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  4142 fortune    strfile, unstr are a.out binar dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4143 fortune    fortune is an a.out binary     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4146            cfingerd incorrectly says [MSG (unknown)
  4147 mount      [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linu Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4149 base(?)    /etc/resolv.conf gets bad conf (unknown -- `base(')
  4150            (no subject)                   (unknown)
  4151 smail      /etc/cron.daily/smail not remo Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4152 procps     psupdate writes /etc/psdatabas Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4153            recent mount/umount vulnerabil (unknown)
  4154 shellutils `echo' provides no way to unpa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  4155            recent mount/umount vulnerabil (unknown)
  4156 rpncalc    rpncalc has unexecutable unwri David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  4157 ptx        `permutated' is not a word     Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4158 pine       pine does not lock mailbox pro Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4159 xcoral     xcoral dies                    Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4160 mosaic, xs Mosaic caused X to become unre Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4162            stack trace                    (unknown)
  4163 sysklogd   syslogd loops                  Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4164 ferret     Ferret extended description ha Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.co
  4165 lclint     LCLint extended description ha Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4166 mosaic     Mosaic extended description ha Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4169 pixmap     pixmap dies                    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4170 vlock      vlock can make the system unus Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4171 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4172 wg15-local "wg15-locale" requires changes (unknown -- `wg')
  4173 xbase      xdm stop-script should use --p Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4174 latex      Unable to use 'dc' fonts in la Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4175 util-linux util-linux has file /usr/doc/c Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4176 mkdosfs, d mkdosfs has file conflict with Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  4178 less       silly problem with less        Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  4179 bsdmainuti can't use 'write' when su'd to Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4180 bash       bash has duplicate examples    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4181 nn         Searching for wrong active fil Mike Coleman <coleman@chez-gnu.
  4182 grep       grep on /proc/kcore dumps core Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l

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I'm looking at the backlog of forgotten bugs, and have verified that
this one still exists.

The original report was for gdb 4.12, but Ian Jackson verified
that the problem exists under 4.14, and I just verified that it
exists for 4.15.1-1.

Should this be forwarded to the upstream maintainers of gdb?  We
haven't touched this bug since October.

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From debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org Sat Aug 17 06:01:30 1996
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As of 1.14.6-4, this bug is still there... maybe

$ type echo
echo is a shell builtin
$ echo foo >/dev/full
$ echo $?
0
$ cat /dev/zero >/dev/full
cat: write error: No space left on device
$ echo $?
1
$ /bin/echo foo >/dev/full
$ echo $?
0
$ file /bin/echo    
/bin/echo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped
$ 

The built-in version of echo is faithfull reproducing what the
binary version does.  

If they are both in error, should another bug be filed for
shellutils?  The manpage for echo makes no mention whatsoever
of return values.
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I'm currently trying to finish the work on the shadow package. However,
there are some decision to make:

1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow
come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password files)?
Or should we use the shadow login as standard?

I'm not sure which is the better one. I did change the standard login to be
shadow aware (easy) but I'm not sure about all the other features it has.
There are quite a lot of additional checks in the shadow login. Does anyone
has some info about this? Marek? Guy?

2) The login package also contains newgrp which has to be changed to be
shadow aware. The shadow package comes with its own newgrp source (much more
C code). So here's the same problem as under 1). Also there's the securetty
conffile that has to be included in both packages if we allow shadow to
install its own login and newgrp.

3) We definitely have to use the shadow passwd source to be able to handle
the shadowed passwd file, while the old one is needed for the standard
passwd file. But the passwd package also contains a conffile (/etc/shells)
and two more binaries that are not affected by shadow (vipw/vigr). Should I
add these to the shadow package, too?

4) Finally, how do I correctly set up the control file? I take it the
'Breaks:' option isn't implemented yet. But shadow breaks older version of
all packages that check the password.

Michael
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You (Michael Meskes) wrote:
> I'm currently trying to finish the work on the shadow package. However,
> there are some decision to make:
> 
> 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow
> come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password files)?
> Or should we use the shadow login as standard?

Well the login we're using now is from util-linux, and unless you can get
the shadow patches into the upstream source (which wouldn't be a bad idea)
it would be easier to use the login from the shadow package I think.
You can use the Replaces: header for that. The same goes for newgrp.
In fact I think you can drop newgrp since it isn't needed under Linux, we
have BSD groups support.
> 
> 3) We definitely have to use the shadow passwd source to be able to handle
> the shadowed passwd file, while the old one is needed for the standard
> passwd file. But the passwd package also contains a conffile (/etc/shells)
> and two more binaries that are not affected by shadow (vipw/vigr). Should I
> add these to the shadow package, too?

vipw and vigr should be rewritten so that they can edit the passwd+shadow.
I've got a vipw that merges passwd+shadow, lets you edit the merge, and
then splits it again. It also adheres to the shadow password locking
convention. If you want it drop me a line.

Also, you'll have to replace adduser ofcourse. This will be easy; shadow
comes with a command line utility "useradd" that just needs a simple
perl wrapper around it that emulates adduser functionality.

Bruce (I think it was Bruce) mentioned that we want shadow passwords as
a standard feature for 1.2; so I think just making sure all conflicting
packages get upgraded to work with shadow and letting shadow conflict
with the older packages would do the job.

Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release.
Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too,
or if we think that shadow is good enough for now.

Mike.
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Package: kernel-package
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: misc
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Source: kernel-package
Version: 2.03
Depends: perl (>= 5.002-8)
Recommends: libc-dev, gcc
Suggests: kernel-source

I am installing a custom kernel using kernel-package.  Whenever it
tries to build the new psdatabase I get an error message.  The
relevant portion of /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-image-2.0.12.postinst is

 if ( -x "/sbin/psupdate" && -f "/boot/vmlinux-$version" ) {
   unlink("/boot/psdatabase");
   symlink("/boot/psdatabase-$version", "/boot/psdatabase");
   system("/sbin/psupdate /boot/vmlinux-$version");
   if ( -f "/boot/psdatabase-$version" ) {
     unlink("/boot/vmlinux-$version");
   }
   else {
     print "\nAn error seems to have ocurred while generating the\n";
     print "psdatabase file /boot/psdatabase.  NOT deleting the\n";
     print "/boot/vmlinux-$version so that the database may be \n";
     print "created manually\n";
   }
 }

so after running /sbin/psupdate there is an attempt to find if
/boot/psdatabase-2.0.12 exists.  The documentation for psupdate
indicates that it writes a new version of /etc/psdatabase.  I checked
and indeed that file was updated.  Am I supposed to have a link from
/etc/psdatabase to /boot/psdatabase?  This sequence would make sense
to me if that was the case.

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rdm@tad.micro.umn.edu writes:
>>>      echo $HOME/Mailbox >$HOME/.forward
>
>Richard Kettlewell:
>>This is a bad idea if the home directory is NFS-mounted from a remote
>>system; IME file locking under NFS is very easy to get wrong.  (Not
>>that all mailers get locking right even on local file systems...)
>
>This is a symptom of flaws in NFS and in the standard unix mailbox
>format.  One possibility is to go to a more robust format (e.g.
>qmail's Maildir).  Another possibility is to live with NFS's failures
>:-(

I think we'll be stuck with NFS's flaws for a while yet; to ignore
them would be unwise.  The same remark applies to mailbox formats,
though that should be easier to fix - I've not looked at qmail so I
have no opinion on whether it's done it well.

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In message <199608171207.OAA08508@picard.cistron.nl>, Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
>Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release.
>Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too,
>or if we think that shadow is good enough for now.

Someone's already compiled libpam for Debian---I guess the question is
just whether or now we feel it's advisable to do this now.

I browse the PAM mailing list, but I don't have a feel for whether
it's ready for use or not---though RedHat is pretty quick about
releases, so I would guess that if it's not it will soon be ready.

I think that we should use it if it is.

Mike.
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In message <m0urlA3-0000U8C@franz.stat.wisc.edu>, Douglas Bates writes:
>so after running /sbin/psupdate there is an attempt to find if
>/boot/psdatabase-2.0.12 exists.  The documentation for psupdate
>indicates that it writes a new version of /etc/psdatabase.  I checked
>and indeed that file was updated.  Am I supposed to have a link from
>/etc/psdatabase to /boot/psdatabase?  This sequence would make sense
>to me if that was the case.

This has been brought up a couple of times in as many weeks.

It looks like what we're seeing is a change in behavior in psupdate.

Here's a patch to be applied to
/usr/lib/kernel-package/debian/image.postinst:

--- image.postinst.~1~	Thu Jul 18 02:16:18 1996
+++ image.postinst	Wed Aug 14 11:53:45 1996
@@ -69,8 +69,9 @@
   unlink("/boot/psdatabase");
   symlink("/boot/psdatabase-$version", "/boot/psdatabase");
   system("/sbin/psupdate /boot/vmlinux-$version");
-  if ( -f "/boot/psdatabase-$version" ) {
+  if ( -f "/etc/psdatabase" ) {
     unlink("/boot/vmlinux-$version");
+    system("mv /etc/psdatabase /boot/psdatabase-$version" );
   }
   else {
     print "\nAn error seems to have ocurred while generating the\n";

I'm still waiting for someone to let me know if psupdate was working
before and is now broken so the bug can be refiled against it, or
whether it was broken and is now working, in which case I'll release a
new kernel-package.

Mike.
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Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> writes:

> You can use the Replaces: header for that. The same goes for newgrp.
> In fact I think you can drop newgrp since it isn't needed under Linux, we
> have BSD groups support.

Hmm, I often use newgrp when I'm about to do a set of actions where I
want to make sure all the new files get a particular group.  For
example, say I'm building a package in my home directory and I want
all the files created to be group src because I'm likely to move them
to /usr/src/ later.

Is there some other way to achieve this?

--
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Hi,

I think it was on debian-devel that somebody asked about this subject. I
replied that I had a rather simple setup using the .xserverrc-file, and a
couple of people asked me to mail it to them. So I decided to send it to
the list. Here it follows:

#!/bin/sh

# Generate a random key; Mui and Pearce offer a number of alternatives
# for this.
randomkey=`perl -e 'srand; printf int(rand(100000000000000000))'`
#
HOST=`hostname`
#
# Add the code to the .Xauthority list for local-host sockets
xauth add $HOST/unix:0 . $randomkey
#
# Add the code to the .Xauthority list for TCP/IP connections
xauth add $HOST:0 . $randomkey

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/X -auth $HOME/.Xauthority


Sometimes there are some messages on startup about non-hex characters in
the random-key, but it still works AFAIK.

Maarten

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I have been off-line since Wednesday night, sorry if you've been trying to
reach me. I got a middle ear infection that deleted my sense of balance for
most of Thursday. I'm still a bit woozy today. I'll never ignore a sore throat
or earache again.

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Ok, I've fiddled around, and have reached the stage where I can upload
libelf to master. The one question I have is: should it go into contrib,
or devel? Currently, the library is considered to be in alpha stages -
it's definitely usable, but there you are.

I seem to recall that alpha stuff should go into contrib; but recent
discussion on this list appears to contradict that. Anybody want to come
down one way or the other?

Cheers (and thanks).


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Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus
have the default "login" be aware of it, etc.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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From: "Christopher R. Hertel" <crh@nts.umn.edu>
> I've heard reports from OS/2 users that similar problems have been
> seen with some installations of that OS.  Again, the solution was to
> disable cache.
>
> Linux 1.2.8 loads and runs fine from the hard disk.  The others who
> had to turn off cache in order to install Debian found that they
> could re-enable cache once they had installed the system.

My hypothesis at this time is that this is a problem in SysLinux.
I've uploaded a disk we can use to investigate this. Please download
ftp://ftp.pixar.com/pub/bruce/LILO_BOOTDISK.gz and see if it will boot
on your system. It won't do much once you've booted it because it does
not have the hard disk driver linked in (this is the _all_module_ boot
floppy for 1.2 in an early incarnation). But it should boot the kernel
and load the compressed root filesystem all from one floppy. If it works,
please copy the kernel from this disk onto your SysLinux boot floppy
(both are MS-DOS filesystems), and veriify that that does not boot. 
If that's the case, we will have Peter Anvin (author of SysLinux) work
on the problem with you.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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  Bruce Perens writes:
  Bruce>  Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We
  Bruce> should thus have the default "login" be aware of it, etc.

Let's not forget about xdm, please.

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Package: ldso
Version: 1.7.14-4

-chiark:~> ldd /bin/ls
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
-chiark:~> echo $?
0
-chiark:~> ldd /bin/true 
ldd: /bin/true is not a.out or ELF
-chiark:~> echo $?
0
-chiark:~> ldd /dev/null 
ldd: can't read header from /dev/null
-chiark:~> echo $?
0
-chiark:~> ldd /spong
ldd: can't open /spong (No such file or directory)
-chiark:~> echo $?
0
-chiark:~> ldd
usage: ldd [-vVdr] prog ...
-chiark:~> echo $?
0
-chiark:~> 


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
> 
> Well the login we're using now is from util-linux, and unless you can get
> the shadow patches into the upstream source (which wouldn't be a bad idea)
> it would be easier to use the login from the shadow package I think.
> You can use the Replaces: header for that. The same goes for newgrp.
> In fact I think you can drop newgrp since it isn't needed under Linux, we
> have BSD groups support.

But then I think we shoudl keep newgrp just for compatibility.

> vipw and vigr should be rewritten so that they can edit the passwd+shadow.
> I've got a vipw that merges passwd+shadow, lets you edit the merge, and
> then splits it again. It also adheres to the shadow password locking
> convention. If you want it drop me a line.

Yes. Of course I'm interested. Could you either send it to me via email or
place it in my directory on yar or upload it to my ftp site
(feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de) and drop me a line please?

> Also, you'll have to replace adduser ofcourse. This will be easy; shadow
> comes with a command line utility "useradd" that just needs a simple
> perl wrapper around it that emulates adduser functionality.

For the first step it seems to be easier to add a call to useradd to the
adduser script we're using already. 

> Bruce (I think it was Bruce) mentioned that we want shadow passwords as
> a standard feature for 1.2; so I think just making sure all conflicting
> packages get upgraded to work with shadow and letting shadow conflict
> with the older packages would do the job.

That should be a Breaks: not a Conflicts: entry. But since we don't have
Breaks: ...

> Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release.
> Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too,
> or if we think that shadow is good enough for now.

If we can get PAM, too, I'm all for integrating it. What has to be done?

Michael

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David Frey writes:
> M> 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow
> M> come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password files)?
> M> Or should we use the shadow login as standard?
> 
> I'd prefer if we would be shadow's login, since it is far more cleverer than
> "standard" login (the same goes for su btw).

I talked to Guy (login maintainer) about this problem a while ago and treid
to persuade him to use ths shadow login as standard (it works without the
shadow file, too). But he prefers to keep the old one. 

Should we create a second login package? Also should we try to package the
shadow su, too (and divert teh shellutils one)?

I'm going to changes jobs next month and I'd really like to finish my work
on this problem until then. I don't know if I will have the time in my new
job.

Michael

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On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:

> Package: abuse
> Version: 1.10-4
> 
> abuse is still a.out
> 
> aj@dungeon:~$ file /usr/games/lib/abuse-1.10/abuse.x11R6 
> /usr/games/lib/abuse-1.10/abuse.x11R6: setgid Linux/i386 demand-paged
> executable (ZMAGIC), stripped

This is due to the fact that we don't have the source code for abuse. I've
asked the makers if they'll make an ELF version, but I haven't seen one.
Until then there isn't much I can do - I'll leave the bug open however, as
I do agree an ELF version would be much better.

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Bruce Perens writes:
> 
> Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus
> have the default "login" be aware of it, etc.

But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the
shadow one, or both and the user decides?

Michael

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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.5

Wishing to see the colored version of dselect, I tried this from a
color xterm:

# export TERM=linux
# dselect

I didn't see any colors, which was disappointing but hardly fatal.
However, when I used the arrow keys to scroll up or down, dselect 
highlighted _all_ the menu options I scrolled over, not just one.


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>Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Debian Development)
>
>Bruce Perens writes:
>> 
>> Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus
>> have the default "login" be aware of it, etc.
>
>But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the
>shadow one, or both and the user decides?

Quick question (which may show some of my ignorance of the current
linux shadow stuff):

Will inclusion of the 'shadow' package as default interfere with the
use of NIS passwd/group entries? Our installation is fairly dependent
on NIS.

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Well, I think, if I can get it to work, that the new source format
will be fine.  _IF_ I can get it to work.

I've looked at the docs, I've examined hello and dpkg, and I'll be
damned if I can find any information that would allow me to actually
reproduce the files that were uploaded to master, and assuming that
dpkg was in fact build with the utilties it includes, this is
annoying.

My first problem stems from the simple fact that the new process of
building a package isn't terribly well documented in the programmers
manual---it devotes a whole sentence to saying "Look at
dpkg-source(1)".  Since I missed that sentence, I was baffled for a
while.

This was compounded by the fact that, since the 'source' target is
still listed in the .PHONY target, when you do 'debian/rules source',
you get "Nothing to do for target source", rather than "Don't know how
to make source", or even better, "Source is an obsolete target, please
use dpkg-source".

Anyways, I finally figured out that I had to invoke dpkg-source.  So I
tried dpkg-source, and here's what I get:

dpkg-source: building hello in hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz
tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
Try `tar --help' for more information.
dpkg-source: failure: tar gave error exit status 2

Since I had both appropriate hello-1.3 and hello-1.3.orig directories,
I figured maybe I was doing something wrong in invoking dpkg-source,
so I looked around a little more and found dpkg-buildpackage.  After
figuring out that it needs to be run from within the debian source
directory, I ran it, and lo and behold, it has the same problem with
dpkg-source that I do.

So, I've got the tools, but I can't get them to work, and furthermore,
most of them aren't even mentioned in the draft programmers manual
that goes to great lengths to document the files and requirements and
so forth, without ever really discussing the the tools, or how to use
them.

I'd really like to know what I'm doing wrong, so I can move ahead on
this.

Also, on the subject of our available examples: I think the
debian/rules file in the hello source package makes at least 1 poor
decisions in how certain things should be implemented---and given that
prospective maintainers are often pointed in its direction, I think we
should take care of these before immortalizing them.

For instance, Bruce seems to have originated a much more sensible
construct for seeing to the creation of the directories from which the
package is built.

Instead of just throwing 'install -d' commands in the body of the
'binary' target, a list of target directories is constructed and a
target created that will iterate over that list, creating directories
as it goes.  The binary target is then made dependent upon that
target.  This is 1000% easier when you're working with a complex
package that needs a lot of directories.

It would also be nice if we could produce some simple tools that would
help take care of some of the small administrative headaches
automatically---say, a tool that would look through the debian
directory and install all appropriate files into the DEBIAN directory,
running them through any appropriate filters.

Another useful tool would go through the temporary directory structure
and assign permissions and ownerships.  Certains parts of the tree
(*/bin, */man, you get the idea) would have defaults associated with
them (0755, for */bin, 0644, for */man, root.root owning everything,
etc).  The package maintainer would then need only supply the program
with a list of the exceptions (along with correct perms and
ownership), and the rules file then could just execute _that_ command
with su -c, since nothing else would need that access (well, the clean
command might).

Now I know that there are always situations in which this just
wouldn't work, and that's fine---there's nothing that stops a rules
file from overriding parts of this when necessary.  The important
thing is that tools like this would make the creation of 90%+ package
that much more automated, and most likely that much more free of the
little bugs that clutter up the bug system.

Mike.
--
"Don't let me make you unhappy by failing to be contrary enough...."


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Please work out with Guy Maor (loginutils maintainer) which login to make
standard. I think I will have the set-up script start the system with
shadow enabled, and let the user take it out if they must by removing
/etc/shadow .

	Thanks

	Bruce
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In message <m0uqjXw-0004OzC@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>, Ian Jackson writes:
Package: rpncalc
Version: 1.1-1

>Directories must be 755 root.root.

Fixed in rpncalc-1.1-2


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Hi,

I would like the diald preinst script to check if the kernel has
SLIP devices (either compiled in or in as a module).

I think it should be enough to check for the string `slip' in /proc/modules
and the string `sl?:' in /proc/net/dev. Is this correct?

Thanks,

	-giuseppe

PS: please cc me in your replies as I'm temporarily off the devel list.


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The "shadow" feature does not preclude use of NIS passwd and group maps.
Only users that have "*" as their password field will get their passwords
from /etc/shadow or /etc/gshadow (file names may vary).

If our NIS package replaces "passwd", etc., with NIS-master-server-aware
versions, that package would have to be updated. I think this is one reason
that people are experimenting with shared libraries for validation.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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Look for "sl0" in /proc/net/dev . I think that's a definitive test.

	Thanks

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   Date: Sat, 17 Aug 96 00:35 MET DST
   From: joey@wazergate.north.de (Martin Schulze)

   Debian's INN has its active file located in /var/lib/news/active.
   The nn newsreader mentioned above unfortunately tries to read it 
   from /usr/lib/news/active.

Martin,

[Cool!  My first bug report!  :-]

When I compiled this version of nn, I was assuming that it would be used as an
NNTP-only newsreader, the assumption being that virtually everyone reads news
this way.

It looks like what you're doing here is trying to read news out of a local
spool area.  I suppose if this can be easily supported, it should be, but I'm
not at all sure it will work.  In particular, 'nn' would have to be able to
read NOV (overview) data out of this spool area, too.

Before I start digging further, do you know whether both news and the overview
data are available on your machine?

Thanks,
--Mike


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"Susan G. Kleinmann":
> Wishing to see the colored version of dselect, I tried this from a
> color xterm:
> 
> # export TERM=linux
> # dselect

"linux" is, of course, the wrong terminal type. For color xterm's, the
correct type is "xterm-color". (dselect doesn't seem to be using colors
in the main menu, but it does in the selection screen.) Not that it works
too well for me, anyway (color-aware programs seem to want to prefer the
background to be black, and will set it to back when exiting).

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Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> "someone else who is now trying to hide her identity wrote:":
> > Wishing to see the colored version of dselect, I tried this from a
> > color xterm:
> > 
> > # export TERM=linux
> > # dselect
> 
> "linux" is, of course, the wrong terminal type. For color xterm's, the
> correct type is "xterm-color". (dselect doesn't seem to be using colors
> in the main menu, but it does in the selection screen.) Not that it works
> too well for me, anyway (color-aware programs seem to want to prefer the
> background to be black, and will set it to back when exiting).

Oops.  Right you are.  

BTW, whether TERM=linux or TERM=xterm-color, dselect DTRT when it is
invoked with one of the menu options, e.g., 
   dselect access
brings up a nicely colored screen.


(Susan <-- needing very small font here.)


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Uploaded to master.debian.org.

This is the author's own response to the mount/umount security issues, and so
should replace the previous 2.5k-1 release which incorporated unofficial
patches.

Bruce, would you like to respond to the recent inquiry about Debian's
vulnerability status with regard to mount/umount, mentioning that all versions
prior to 2.5k-1 are vulnerable and recommending 2.5l-1 as the official remedy
(as soon as it has been placed into the archive)? Or if you'd prefer I prepare
something, please let me know. Thanks.


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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

A bug currently making the rounds on the bugtraq mailing list:

The resolver library appears to allow the environment variable
RESOLV_HOST_CONF to be used to specify a pathname for an alternate
host.conf.  It also has the unfortunate behavior of printing the text
of any parse errors in the host.conf library to standard output (bad
karma for a system library, if you ask me).  This allows outsiders to
get the contents of any file over the network:

$ telnet 
telnet> env define RESOLV_HOST_CONF /etc/passwd
telnet> open localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Debian Linux 1.1
Copyright (C) 1993-1996 Debian Association, Inc. and others
resolv+: "root:M87U9DfM9eek:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash" is an invalid keyword
resolv+: "daemon:*:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/bin/sh" is an invalid keyword
resolv+: "bin:*:2:2:bin:/bin:/bin/sh" is an invalid keyword
resolv+: "sys:*:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/sh" is an invalid keyword
[...]

A quick workaround is to change envarok() in telnetd/state.c as
appended.  My guess is that only telnetd needs to be changed for now,
as neither rlogin nor rsh (if I remember correctly) allow the client
to pass in environment variables.  All the programs should probably be
checked, though.

static int
envvarok(varp,valp)
	char *varp, *valp;
{
	if (strncmp(varp, "LD_", strlen("LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "ELF_LD_", strlen("ELF_LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "AOUT_LD_", strlen("AOUT_LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "_RLD_", strlen("_RLD_")) &&
		!strchr(varp, '=') &&
		strcmp(varp, "LIBPATH") &&
		strcmp(varp, "ENV") &&
		strcmp(varp, "IFS")) {
		return 1;
	} else {
...

to:

static int
envvarok(varp,valp)
	char *varp, *valp;
{
	if (strncmp(varp, "LD_", strlen("LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "ELF_LD_", strlen("ELF_LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "AOUT_LD_", strlen("AOUT_LD_")) &&
		strncmp(varp, "_RLD_", strlen("_RLD_")) &&
		!strchr(varp, '=') &&
		strcmp(varp, "LIBPATH") &&
		strcmp(varp, "ENV") &&
		strcmp(varp, "RESOLV_HOST_CONF") &&
		strcmp(varp, "HOSTALIASES") &&
		strcmp(varp, "LOCALDOMAIN") &&
		strcmp(varp, "RES_OPTIONS") &&
		strcmp(varp, "IFS")) {
		return 1;
	} else {
...


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> Urgency: Low
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Where a security fix is involved, shouldn't the urgency be a little bit
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You (Rob Browning) wrote:
> Hmm, I often use newgrp when I'm about to do a set of actions where I
> want to make sure all the new files get a particular group.  For
> example, say I'm building a package in my home directory and I want
> all the files created to be group src because I'm likely to move them
> to /usr/src/ later.
> 
> Is there some other way to achieve this?

You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files
created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory..

But I can see that using newgrp might be more convenient

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You (Michael Meskes) wrote:
> > M> 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow
> I talked to Guy (login maintainer) about this problem a while ago and treid
> to persuade him to use ths shadow login as standard (it works without the
> shadow file, too). But he prefers to keep the old one. 

If we're going to change over to shadow totally, we'll need the shadowized
login. The util-linux one is very simplistic and it would be stupid IMHO
to rewrite it when a better one is readily available (and when you have to
keep patching it up every time a new upstream util-linux is released).

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Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> writes:

> You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files
> created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory..
> 
> But I can see that using newgrp might be more convenient

Right.  The gid bit trick works fine unless you're running some set of
commands that may create a bunch of directories.  Then I don't think
the sgid bit will propagate.

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You (Richard Kaszeta) wrote:
> Quick question (which may show some of my ignorance of the current
> linux shadow stuff):
> 
> Will inclusion of the 'shadow' package as default interfere with the
> use of NIS passwd/group entries? Our installation is fairly dependent
> on NIS.

NIS and shadow don't interfere.

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I'd like to contribute some packages, but I'd like to ask some
questions first:

1. One of these packages is the replacement of `libX11.so'.  Do I have to make
whole alternative version of appropriate standard X package or is there some
way to make small "one-file-replacement" package?

2. Some of these packages (like X fonts) would be related to ISO-8859-2 only
and some of them (like Czech fonts and format files for TeX) are even
interesting only for Czech speaking users.  It is probably not good idea to
place Czech-only packages to the main tree.  Or it is?

3. What and where are (are there?) up-to-date `Debian Packaging Guidelines'?

And one not packaging related question:

4. What does word `Debian' mean?

Thanks for any help.

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On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Warwick HARVEY wrote:
>metafont                The TeX Metafont program
>dvilj, dvips            Provided by dviljk, dvipsk (? - iwj)
These came up due to a misunderstanding of the guidelines.
They are no longer needed and I will remove them when I update the TeX
related packages.

Nils

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Michael Alan Dorman writes ("New source format and related issues..."):
...
> I've looked at the docs, I've examined hello and dpkg, and I'll be
> damned if I can find any information that would allow me to actually
> reproduce the files that were uploaded to master, and assuming that
> dpkg was in fact build with the utilties it includes, this is
> annoying.

Both dpkg and hello were built with those utilities.

> My first problem stems from the simple fact that the new process of
> building a package isn't terribly well documented in the programmers
> manual---it devotes a whole sentence to saying "Look at
> dpkg-source(1)".  Since I missed that sentence, I was baffled for a
> while.

I'll see what I can do about this.

> This was compounded by the fact that, since the 'source' target is
> still listed in the .PHONY target, when you do 'debian/rules source',
> you get "Nothing to do for target source", rather than "Don't know how
> to make source", or even better, "Source is an obsolete target, please
> use dpkg-source".

This will be fixed in the next hello package.

> Anyways, I finally figured out that I had to invoke dpkg-source.  So I
> tried dpkg-source, and here's what I get:
> 
> dpkg-source: building hello in hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz
> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
> Try `tar --help' for more information.
> dpkg-source: failure: tar gave error exit status 2
> 
> Since I had both appropriate hello-1.3 and hello-1.3.orig directories,
> I figured maybe I was doing something wrong in invoking dpkg-source,
> so I looked around a little more and found dpkg-buildpackage.  After
> figuring out that it needs to be run from within the debian source
> directory, I ran it, and lo and behold, it has the same problem with
> dpkg-source that I do.

Well, all I can say is that it doesn't do this for me.

Can you send me, privately,
 (a) what command line you're invoking dpkg-source with
 (b) the output of `find -ls' in the directory where you're invoking
     it ?

> So, I've got the tools, but I can't get them to work, and furthermore,
> most of them aren't even mentioned in the draft programmers manual
> that goes to great lengths to document the files and requirements and
> so forth, without ever really discussing the the tools, or how to use
> them.

The tools are documented in the manpage.  Have you read the manpage ?

I'll try to put some less reference-oriented documentation in the
programmers' manual.

...
> Also, on the subject of our available examples: I think the
> debian/rules file in the hello source package makes at least 1 poor
> decisions in how certain things should be implemented---and given that
> prospective maintainers are often pointed in its direction, I think we
> should take care of these before immortalizing them.

If you send me good patches to hello I'll integrate and release them.

I'm not going to defer the release of the new source format because
the examples aren't ideal.

...
> It would also be nice if we could produce some simple tools that would
> help take care of some of the small administrative headaches
> automatically---say, a tool that would look through the debian
> directory and install all appropriate files into the DEBIAN directory,
> running them through any appropriate filters.

`cp' ?

> Another useful tool would go through the temporary directory structure
> and assign permissions and ownerships.  Certains parts of the tree
> (*/bin, */man, you get the idea) would have defaults associated with
> them (0755, for */bin, 0644, for */man, root.root owning everything,
> etc).  The package maintainer would then need only supply the program
> with a list of the exceptions (along with correct perms and
> ownership), and the rules file then could just execute _that_ command
> with su -c, since nothing else would need that access (well, the clean
> command might).

Feel free to write this command.  I don't have time, I'm afraid.

> Now I know that there are always situations in which this just
> wouldn't work, and that's fine---there's nothing that stops a rules
> file from overriding parts of this when necessary.  The important
> thing is that tools like this would make the creation of 90%+ package
> that much more automated, and most likely that much more free of the
> little bugs that clutter up the bug system.

Yes.

Ian.


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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:26:49 +0200 (MET DST)
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Hi,

> I think it should be enough to check for the string `slip' in /proc/modules
> and the string `sl?:' in /proc/net/dev. Is this correct?

sl?: will only be in /proc/net/devif you have any serial line in xSLIBy mode
(alsattach or dip running). If there ius no serial/pty line in linemode,
there is no entry in /proc/net/dev. There is no real good way to check for
slip availability other than stting up a pty and tryaing an slattach (or
soemthing similiar).

Greetings
Bernd


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Package: perl
Version: 5.003-2

This package contains some documents in a Perl-specific documentation
format called `pod'.  These files are installed in /usr/lib/perl5, eg
/usr/lib/perl5/POSIX.pod oor /usr/lib/perl5/pod/perlop.pod.

They should be somewhere in /usr/doc, or (since they're distributed in
manpage form in /usr/man too) not installed in the package.

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> A quick workaround is to change envarok() in telnetd/state.c as
> appended.  My guess is that only telnetd needs to be changed for now,
> as neither rlogin nor rsh (if I remember correctly) allow the client
> to pass in environment variables.

Is this environment variable sourced for SUID/SGID programs, too? If yes,
there can be situations where ppl can fake address/name mappings which would
be otherwise trusted (cause they ae in /etc/hosts). Removing that feature
sounds like the best solution....

Greetings
bernd


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> 
> I'd like to contribute some packages, but I'd like to ask some
> questions first:
> 
> 1. One of these packages is the replacement of `libX11.so'.  Do I have to make
> whole alternative version of appropriate standard X package or is there some
> way to make small "one-file-replacement" package?

One way of doing it is making your own directory, say,
  /usr/X11R6/lib/xczech
put your czech version of libX11.so in that dir, and, in the postinst
add the /usr/X11R6/lib/xczech to the front of /etc/ld.so.conf.
(and remove it again in the postrm).

This is the way it is done in Xaw3d, and seems to work reasonable well.

> 2. Some of these packages (like X fonts) would be related to ISO-8859-2 only
> and some of them (like Czech fonts and format files for TeX) are even
> interesting only for Czech speaking users.  It is probably not good idea to
> place Czech-only packages to the main tree.  Or it is?

Well, I think it is. There are the german man pages, and I think a
few non-english dictionaries in the main tree too. And, put it another
way, most of the main-tree is only of interest to the english-speaking
community -- why would we discriminate against czech?

Then again, I come from Europe to, and my first language isn't English
eighter.

Good luck with your packages!

-- 
joost witteveen
            joost@rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl
          joostje@debian.org
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>this is not a bug. Due to copyright reasons the dc fonts, which use
>the T1 encoding, are no more in the mflib package. You got to get the
>package "mfdcfnt_1.0-1_all.deb"; It's on "Incoming/" right now (at
>least in our mirror here).

Okay, I installed this package (although my installation already had
the dc fonts).  Still doesn't work, exact same error. It creates a
dc1000.mf file in /var/lib/texmf/fonts/source, but the texmf.cnf
doesn't point to this directory.

Worse, if modify texmf.cnf to add this dir to the search path for
metafont, metafont dies with an error (I believe 'value too large',
but I don't have access right now).

Could someone actually try to run the sample code I posted, and if it
actually works send me a dpkg -l so I can see what packages you have?

-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
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Christophe Le Bars writes:

Yes, I have never seen this error message with fvwm...
I will reassign this bug...


......................................................

Please don't do this.

The problem is with xcoral, not with 9wm.  To verify this, I
just tried running xcoral without any window manager at all.
It dies with the same problem when I try the New menu option 
off the file menu.

Here's how to reproduce the problem:

in a free vt, type
     X :1
in another vt, type
     DISPLAY=:1
     export DISPLAY
(if you're using tcsh do 'setenv DISPLAY=:1' instead)
then switch to the display with the X server on it (probably
alt F7 or alt F8) and select File.New

If this is not resolvable, perhaps xcoral should have a dependency
on fvwm?

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Many of the latex package's files contain these lines (these
particular copied from preload.dc in latex_2e-7.deb):

%% IMPORTANT NOTICE:
%% You are not allowed to distribute this file.
%% For distribution of the original source see
%% the copyright notice in the file preload.dtx .

I see nothing in the copyright file that says we can distribute the
files, only the source (in this case preload.dtx).

I am pretty sure we are inline with the 'spirit' of the latex3 team's
intent, but it might be nice for someone to look a little further into
this to make sure.

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Latex_2e-7 keeps a set of preload files in both /etc and
/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/config, both identical filesets.  One of
these should be eliminated.

-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
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Package: man
Version: 2.3.10-13

I get this error when mandb is trying to process the xjewel.1x manpage:

[joey@kite] ~log>man xjewel
Reformatting xjewel(1), please wait...
input in flex scanner failed
[joey@kite] ~log>mandb -d
...
ult_src: File /usr/X11R6/man/man1/xjewel.1x
input in flex scanner failed

Xjewel isn't a debian package yet (actually, I was packaging it up when I
noiticed this problem), so here is the man page that's causing this
problem. It also seems a little messed up (esp the KEYS section) if I view
it with "man -l xjewel.man", so I suspect it contains something it
shouldn't, but I don't know anough about manpages to know where the
problem is.

----------------------xjewel.man-------------------
.TH JEWEL 6 "December 1992" "X Version 11"
.SH NAME

xjewel \- X windows droping jewels game

.SH SYNOPSIS

.B xjewel

.SH DESCRIPTION

.I Jewel
is a droping block game akin to tetris. 

It is played by controling the motion of blocks which continue to fall from
the top of the screen.  One can move them left and right, as well as
rotate the jewel segements.  The object is to get the most points before
the grim reaper ends the fun.

Death happens when the screen is no longer capable of holding any more
blocks.  To make high scores more interesting, you are given but three
attempts to get points -- use them wisely.

As the game progresses, and more jewels are removed, the speed of the game
will increase.  This is measured in seconds of delay between steps of
block motion.

.SH KEYS

There are three sets of keys that can be used:
.br
( or any combination )

Option 1:
.TS
center tab (%) ;
| cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) | 
  c   c   c
  c   c   c .
_
J %  K %  L 
_
|  %   |   %  | 
move block left % rotate block % move block right
.TE
.TS
center tab (%) ;
_   l
| cw(1.25i) | l
_   l.

SPACE  % <- drop block

.TE

Option 2:

.TS
center tab (%) ;
| cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) |
  c   c   c
  c   c   c .
_
4 %  5 %  6
_
|  %   |   %  |
move block left % rotate block % move block right
.TE
.TS
center tab (%) ;
_   l
| cw(1.25i) | l
_   l.

0  % <- drop block

.TE

.if n .ne 8
Option 3: (cursor keypad)
                
.TS
center tab (%) ;
  l        _        l 
  cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) | l
  l        _        l  
| cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) | cw(1.25i) |
  c   c   c
  c   c   c .

 %  \(ua %  - rotate block

_
\(<- %  \(da  %  \(->
_
|  %   |   %  |
move block left % rotate block % move block right
.TE

.SH ROTATIONS

The folowing rotations are possible:
( there are no others )

.TS
center tab (%);
_ % cw(1i) % _ % cw(1i) % _
| cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) |
_ % cw(1i) % _ % cw(1i) % _
| cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) |
_ % cw(1i) % _ % cw(1i) % _
| cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) | % cw(1i) % | cw(1i) |
_ % cw(1i) % _ % cw(1i) % _ .

1 % % 3 % % 2

2 % \(rh % 1 % \(rh % 3

3 % % 2 % % 1

.TE

.SH SCORING

The basic way to get points is to unite the jewels to form triplet (or
higher) matches.  This can be done in any direction, and can be
accomplished in more than one part of the board at one time.  As the
jewels are removed, the board falls to fill the spaces -- matches may
again occur.

These teritiary matches provide an interesting part to the game due to the
formula for calculating points:
    
    ( 300 (for base triplet) + 150 * (each additional jewel) ) * 2^order

    where order is the number of the repeition from which the match
    occured.

As a light at the end of the bleak tunnel, a WILD CARD is available.  The
wild block will be given at infrequent intervals, and will give the user
the points for one triplet by removing all the jewels of a particular
shape/color.

To add some interest to the game, points are awarded for dropping the
block from a height above its resting place.  This is accumlated at 10
points per level above the place it will rest.

.SH STAGES

There are no changes for the higher levels, although the speed increases,
proportionaly to the level.  Stage increases with the successful
completion of the 50 jewels required per level.  The current status is
shown in the REST field.

.SH NOTES

This game was originally written by Yoshihiro Satoh of HP.  I have made a
modest attempt to replicate Domain/JewelBox under X.

I have somewhat rudely taken the bitmaps from the original game and
created this version.  I hold the copyright for the code, as I created
it, but I hold no claim to the bitmaps which were freely
distributed with the Domain version.

NOTE: I have attempted to reach the holder of the original copyright to 
ascertain his acceptance for the release of this game, he did not, or was
not able to reply.

REDISTRIBUTION in source or binary from is permited as long as adequate
notation of the originators is retained, including the developer of the 
original Domain/Jewlbox, Yoshihiro Satoh.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND PERIL, I MAKE NO CLAIM OF USEABILITY OR WARANTY..

.SH ORIGINAL NOTATIONS
>Authors
.br
>-------
.br
>
.br
>   Programming       Yoshihiro Satoh
.br
>   Font Design       Yoshiharu Minami
.br
>   Document Writing  Nancy Paisner
.br
>
.br
>Copyright
.br
>---------
.br
>
.br
>  This software is in the Yoshihiro's Arcade Collections.
.br
>  Domain/JewelBox is a trade mark of Yoshihiro Satoh.
.br
>
.br
>  Copyright @ 1990 by Yoshihiro Satoh
.br
>  All rights are reserved by Yoshihiro Satoh.
.br

xjewel - Jewel for X11 Copyright 1992 by David Cooper

.SH AUTHOR

David Cooper
.br
Jose Guterman
.SH "SEE ALSO"

.SH BUGS

It does not currently accept any X arguments, including the -display argument.

The DISPLAY environment variable must be set for it to work.


-- 
#!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj -RSA-3-lines-PERL-
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1#     Joey Hess
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/)  # jeh22@cornell.edu
      "How appropriate, you fight like a cow." - - Guybrush Threepwood


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Subject: Bug#4190: moderate security hole in telnetd
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You (Bernd Eckenfels) wrote:
> > A quick workaround is to change envarok() in telnetd/state.c as
> > appended.  My guess is that only telnetd needs to be changed for now,
> > as neither rlogin nor rsh (if I remember correctly) allow the client
> > to pass in environment variables.
> 
> Is this environment variable sourced for SUID/SGID programs, too? If yes,

Yep. If you have shadow, try this:

RESOLV_HOST_CONF=/etc/shadow ping localhost

> there can be situations where ppl can fake address/name mappings which would
> be otherwise trusted (cause they ae in /etc/hosts). Removing that feature
> sounds like the best solution....

That would be HOST_ALIASES, and that's on just about every BSD derived
system on the planet. (You can have fun with it though). That doesn't
look dangerous, btw; you can't change the reverse mappings.

This should be fixed in the library, I think. I see no real reason
for justifying these environment variables; nobody seemed to know they
were there in the first place (still, I think the telnet trick _was_
kind of neat).

Mike.
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Package: manpages-de
Version: 0.1-1

I installed the German manpages. But what do I do to use them?

I tried export LANG=de but that did not change anything.

Please provide documentation somewhere about how to use the manpages.

Also on the mentioned website there is also NO INFORMATION about how to
activate the german manpages.

There are some hints in the man man page but I could not glean anything from it.


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Package: tar
Version: 1.11.11-1

It seems the newest version of 'tar' sets (during extract) the uid/gid and
the mtime of the file a symlink points to instead of the symlink itself.


Here is a source directory:

-rw-r--r--   1 bcwhite  verisim      5731 Jul 21 16:02 database-gdbm.cc
-rw-r--r--   1 bcwhite  verisim      1114 Jul  7 00:27 database-gdbm.h
lrwxrwxrwx   1 bcwhite  verisim        16 Jul 14 13:56 database.cc -> database-gdbm.cc
lrwxrwxrwx   1 bcwhite  verisim        15 Jul 14 13:56 database.h -> database-gdbm.h


Here is output of 'tar' during extract:

ferret/database-gdbm.h
ferret/database.cc
tar: ferret/database.cc: Could not change access and modification times: No such file or directory
tar: ferret/database.cc: Cannot change mode to 0755: No such file or directory
ferret/database.h
ferret/database-gdbm.cc


The extracted directory has:

-rw-r--r--   1 bcwhite  verisim      5731 Jul 21 16:02 database-gdbm.cc
-rwxr-xr-x   1 bcwhite  verisim      1114 Jul 14 13:56 database-gdbm.h*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 bcwhite  verisim        16 Aug 19 17:45 database.cc -> database-gdbm.cc
lrwxrwxrwx   1 bcwhite  verisim        15 Aug 19 17:45 database.h -> database-gdbm.h*

(note the permissions of "database-gdbm.h")


                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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I finally bit the bullet and started work on the TeX packages to make 
them build on multiple architectures.  Well, since I don't much at all about 
TeX, I'm not sure what's platform specific.  I'm especially concerned 
about endianness.

As far as I can gather, the only files that aren't independent are "tfm" 
files.  Is that correct?

So, does anyone have any insight?

Thanks,

Leland

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Package: tar
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Tar doesn't understand the "--" flag, which a past version handled.
I think it's meant to have the standard GNU usage of not interpreting
any arguments past the "--" as flags.


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Tar complains a lot in the form
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This is spurious


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Tar doesn't understand the "--" flag, which a past version handled.
I think it's meant to have the standard GNU usage of not interpreting
any arguments past the "--" as flags.


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Tar complains a lot in the form
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As far as I can tell, this is spurious.


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Package: dpkg
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The latest iteration of the tar package unfortunately is not able to
understand the "--" flag. I suggest you not use that flag in dpkg-source
for now.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.5

It's pretty obvious what's happening:

primer[~/incoming]$ dpkg-deb -f netstd_2.06-1_m68k.deb
PACKAGE: netstd
VERSION: 2.06-1
ARCHITECTURE: m68k
SECTION: net
PRIORITY: standard
MAINTAINER: Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de>
DEPENDS: netbase (>=2.00), libc5 (>=5.2.18-6), ncurses3.0, cpp, libreadline2
OPTIONAL: bind, wu-ftpd, mail-transport-agent
DESCRIPTION: Networking binaries and daemons for Linux
 The netstd package provides you with the standard networking services
 (server and clients).  This includes services like ftp, telnet, nfs,
 pcnfsd, bootp, tftp, finger, pop, rsh, rlogin, SLIP and others.
rm: remove `/tmp/22865aaa/conffiles', overriding mode 0444? y
rm: remove `/tmp/22865aaa/preinst', overriding mode 0555? y
rm: remove `/tmp/22865aaa/prerm', overriding mode 0555? y
rm: remove `/tmp/22865aaa/postinst', overriding mode 0555? y
rm: remove `/tmp/22865aaa/postrm', overriding mode 0555? y


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Changes this time:

- Added sgmls
- Removed metafont, dvilj, dvips


          AUTHORITATIVE LIST OF VIRTUAL PACKAGE NAMES

Below is an authoritative list of virtual package names currently
in-use or proposed and not objected to.  Please check the list below
for things relevant to your packages.

New packages MUST use virtual package names where appropriate (this
includes making new ones - read on).

Packages MUST NOT use virtual package names (except privately, amongst
a cooperating group of packages) unless they have been agreed upon and
appear in this list.

The latest version of this file can be found in
        doc/package-developer/virtual-package-names-list.text
on your local Debian FTP site.

The procedure for updating the list is as follows:

1. Post to debian-devel saying what names you intend to use or what
   other changes you wish to make.

2. Wait a few days for comment.

3. Mail the maintainer of the virtual package name list (Warwick Harvey
   <warwick@cs.mu.OZ.AU>) notifying him of the consensus reached (or
   your suggestions if noone objected).  Please include a proposed brief
   description of the new virtual name(s) for the list.  The list
   maintainer will then post the new list to debian-devel and upload it
   to the FTP site.

4. Go and use the new or changed names.

Warwick.
(based on earlier version by Ian J.)


Now, the list:

X Windows:
----------
X11R5                   XFree86 R5, including base system (obsolete)
xR5shlib                XFree86 R5 shared library only
X11R6                   XFree86 R6, including base system
xR6shlib                XFree86 R6 shared library only
xlibraries              XFree86 R6 shared library or stub library
xserver                 Any X server (used by other X packages)

Miscellaneous:
--------------
libc.so.4               An a.out shared C library, version 4.x.x.
info-browser            Something that can browser GNU Info files
kernel-source           Kernel source code
kernel-headers          Kernel header files (<linux/*.h>, <asm/*.h>)
kernel-image            Kernel image ( vmlinuz, System.map, modules )
httpd                   Any HTTP server
postscript-viewer       Anything that can display Postscript files
postscript-preview      Any preprocessor that creates Postscript output
www-browser             Something that can browse html files
awk                     Anything providing suitable /usr/bin/{awk,nawk}
c-shell                 Anything providing a suitable /usr/bin/csh
pdf-viewer              Anything that can display PDF files
pdf-preview             Any preprocessor that creates PDF output
compress                Anything that provides a true BSD compress command
emacs                   Anything that provides the emacs editor
editor                  Anything that provides an editor
sgmls                   An SGML parser which produces output compatible
                        with James Clark's sgmls and nsgmls parsers

News and Mail:
--------------
mail-transport-agent    Mail transport agents (Smail, Sendmail, &c)
mail-reader             Mail user agents (Pine, Elm, mailx, &c)
news-transport-system   Local news system (INN, C News or B News)
news-reader             Any news reader (trn, tin, &c)
inews                   /usr/bin/inews - local or remote news poster
pgp                     A version of PGP (International or US)
imap-client             Any mail reader capable of accessing remote mail
                        folders using the IMAP protocol (e.g. Pine)
imap-server             Any IMAP mail server

Names of superseded packages Provided by the current ones:
----------------------------------------------------------
gs_x, gs_svga, gs_both  Provided by Ghostscript (gs).  Use gs.
xpmR6                   Provided by xpm.  Use xpm.

Change history:
---------------
22 Sep 1995 Ian Jackson         Initial revision.
26 Mar 1996 Andrew Howell       Added www-browser.
11 May 1996 Manoj Srivastava    Added kernel-image, added new location of
                                this file
19 May 1996 Warwick Harvey      Took over maintenance of list, changed
                                instructions for updating list
25 Jul 1996 Warwick Harvey      Added awk as per Chris Fearnley's suggestion
                                Added c-shell, which seemed to have dropped
                                off at some stage
 2 Aug 1996 Added pdf-{viewer,preview}, compress, emacs
 5 Aug 1996 Added imap-{client,server}
 8 Aug 1996 Added editor
20 Aug 1996 Added sgmls, removed metafont, dvilj, dvips


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Department of Computer Science                        phone: +61-3-9287-9171
University of Melbourne                                 fax: +61-3-9348-1184
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052     web: http://www.cs.mu.OZ.AU/~warwick


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   Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 19:14 PDT
   From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)

   Let's plan on having "shadow" be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus
   have the default "login" be aware of it, etc.

	   Thanks

	   Bruce

Is this the final decision of the project leader, or is this issue
still open to discussion?

I have the feeling that an awful lot of work is being duplicated here.
All of the work being done to support shadow password files, will have
to be done over again to support PAM.  Also, IMHO the PAM framework is
superior, as it supports shadow password files among others (give or
take maybe a few options particular to the shadow package actually
used).

The big question is: is PAM ready for integration in the distribution?
RedHat surely thinks it is stable enough to make some applications PAM
aware.  I expect we can take the patches from RedHat, or at least use
their code as an example in case Debian uses other source code.  So we
should be able to support PAM in the same time frame as would be
needed to support shadow, at least for some authentication clients
(login, passwd, ...) and some underlying modules (e.g. unix & shadow).

Disclaimer: I am not a PAM expert, I simply monitor the PAM mailing
list to see how progress is made, and have put a Debian package
together with the PAM libraries and the underlying modules.  I also
appreciate very much the work already done on shadow support, but I
feel that these issues must be raised.

Patrick
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> Many of the latex package's files contain these lines (these
> particular copied from preload.dc in latex_2e-7.deb):
> 
> %% IMPORTANT NOTICE:
> %% You are not allowed to distribute this file.
> %% For distribution of the original source see
> %% the copyright notice in the file preload.dtx .
> 
> I see nothing in the copyright file that says we can distribute the
> files, only the source (in this case preload.dtx).
> 
> I am pretty sure we are inline with the 'spirit' of the latex3 team's
> intent, but it might be nice for someone to look a little further into
> this to make sure.

These problems with the unpacked (preinstalled configured) latex (and
related) packages has been noticed earlier but was never dealed with.
Anyone having a mail adress at hand for contacting the latex3 team?

Erick


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> Package: manpages-de
> Version: 0.1-1
> 
> I installed the German manpages.

Yes, but 0.1-1 installs the manpages in a wrong directory.

> But what do I do to use them?

Install the newest version (0.1-5; available from 
ftp.infodrom.north.de:/pub/people/joey/debian).

> I tried export LANG=de but that did not change anything.

set LC_MESSAGES to de_DE

> Please provide documentation somewhere about how to use the manpages.
This is provided in the latest version, I believe.

Here's the message I sent to Joey and Alvar about this (before the fixed
manpages-de came along):

	I've found out how to do NLS manpages correctly! 

        Here's the story (demonstrated using german manpages):
        man-2.3.10's configure correctly defines HAVE_SETLOCALE;
        src/man.c does internal_locale = NLSINIT [defined (nls/nls.h)
        to setlocale(LC_MESSAGES,"")] and later calls src/manp.c's
        add_nls_manpath with internal_locale as one of its parameters.
        Now internal_locale must be non-NULL and non-empty for man to
        attempt to access an NLS manpage. Some experimentation showed
        that this means the environment variable LC_MESSAGES must be
        set to 'de_DE' (not 'de' or 'de_DE.88591' [1], despite what
        manpath(5) suggests! [2]). man will then search for german
        manpages under /usr/man/de_DE (this directory should be added to
        the MANDB_MAPs in etc/manpath.conf for catmans to be stored).

	What this means:
	- manpages-{de,es} should be modified to install under 
	  /usr/man/{de_DE,es_ES} instead of /usr/man{de,es}.
This is fixed in the current release of those packages.
	- man: MANDB_MAPs for both should be added to /etc/manpath.conf

Ray
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From: Patrick Weemeeuw <patrick@kulnet.KULeuven.ac.be>
> The big question is: is PAM ready for integration in the distribution?

I agree that it sounds like a better way to do the job. I think the
interested parties should decide together if they are able to deploy
it reasonably _soon_. I have started work on the installation floppies
for 1.2, we are about to change the source format and convert a lot of
packages, we have architecture changes to merge in, etc., so you probably
have a month but not much more.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:51:39 CDT David Engel (david@elo.ods.com) 
wrote:

> Note: I'm copying this to debian-devel to get feedback on my response
> to Philippe's question #3.  If you do respond, please include a direct
> response to me in addition to the list.  I was inadvertantly dropped
> from debian-devel three weeks ago and no amount of trying on my or
> Bruce's parts has been able to get me back on the list.

Can anyone put me on the list too ? In the meantime can you post 
followups to my address as well as the list, please...

> Philippe Troin writes:
> > 1) When compiling (make -f debian.rules) Tcl (needed to build tclX, 
> > what a shame that you need the tcl/tk source tree), I have errors 
> > in tclPosixStr.c about a case having same value (EDEADLOCK and 
> > EDEADLK are both defined and have the same value). Fixed by adding 
> > an #if EDEADLOCK != EDEADLK.
> > Did you recompile it lately ?
> 
> I'm aware of the problem, but haven't had time to fix it yet.

It's a two lines fix actually. BTW, Tcl 7.4 has the same problem.

> > 2) I've tried to 'make test' in both tcl7.5 and tk4.1 source trees, 
> > both failed. Shouldn't we report this to the Tcl/Tk maintainers 
> > and/or try to fix it ? This works perfectly on other systems (tried 
> > Solaris).
> 
> What do you mean by failed?  If you mean some individual tests fail,
> then that is expected.  I believe all of the Tk failures are due to
> non-portable tests.  I have not had time to look into the Tcl
> fileevent failures yet, but I suspect they are either due to
> non-portable tests also or libc bugs.

Some individual test failed for Tcl 7.5 (one test), Tk 4.1 (3 or 4 
tests), TclX 7.5 (4 or 5tests). I'll try to check them out... when 
I've got time.

> > 3) I think I should have tclX be the same (regarding package 
> > management) and tcl and tk. ie, I will have tclX74 and tclX75, both 
> > incompatible with tclX. tclX74-dev and tcl75-dev being mutually 
> > exclusive too... What do you think about it ?
> 
> I agree, for now.  One change I'm considering is to give each major
> Tcl version it's own include directory (e.g. /usr/include/tcl7.4,
> /usr/include/tcl7.5).  This would make it easier to have multiple
> development packages installed simultaneously.  The limitation of only
> having one installed at a time is quickly becoming a problem because
> of the way Tcl/Tk-based packages are tied to a specific version of
> Tcl/Tk.  What do you think?

I think it's fine. Tcl and Tk will need a little package work, but 
TclX is already version clean as it's installed in 
/usr/lib/tclX/<version>. But we'll have to implement 
/etc/alternatives stuff for the .a and the .so.
Do you see any other problem ?

> > 4) I plan having a separate tclX7[45]-doc package for the help 
> > system ( and /usr/bin/tclhelp). What's your 
> > opinion on that one ?
> 
> I've considered doing something like this with the section 3 manual
> pages for Tcl/Tk.  The reason I hadn't done it yet is that I didn't
> want to create yet another package unless I really needed to or
> someone else wanted it.

I think keeping the manual pages within the devel package is good.
However for TclX, /usr/lib/tclX/7.*/help contains a duplicate of 
all the man pages formatted differently to be used with tclhelp, 
hence the new 'doc' package. I must admit I never use this feature 
myself.
But generally, keeping the manpages with the development stuff 
should be a good thing.

Phil.



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Daniel Quinlan writes:
> Use geteuid(2) and/or use a configuration file that says who has
> access.  Using permissions alone to dictate who has access to
> *running* the binary is bad, IMHO, and I think the Debian package
> guidelines agree (unless they've been changed).  Even worse, it's a
> `4750' binary in /bin -- so users are getting "permission denied"
> errors for something in their path.

Okay, I changed that. I will upload a new version once I'm back in the
office (Wednesday).

Michael

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Sorry for the long delay.  I'm uploading 2.5-5 now which has your m68k
patches, among other things.


Date: 20 Aug 96 16:57 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
Source: util-linux
Version: 2.5-5
Binary:  util-linux
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 util-linux: Miscellaneous system utilities.
Changes: 
 Tue Aug 20 11:21:21 1996  Guy Maor  <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
 .
        Released version 2.5-5.
 .
        * debian.rules: Cosmetic changes, fixed 4175.
 .
 Tue Jul 30 02:54:16 1996  Guy Maor  <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
 .
        * fdisk.c,cfdisk.c: Applied patch from Miquel van Smoorenburg
        <miquels@Q.cistron.nl> to let fdisk and cfdisk support Linux
        extended partitions.
.
        * LotsOfFiles: Applied patch from Frank Neumann
        <Frank.Neumann@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> for Linux/m68k
        support.
 .
        * mcookie: Install it
 .
        * disk-utils/mkfs.minix: fixed bug 3777 re parsing oddities.
 .
 Fri Jun 21 10:31:26 1996  Guy Maor  <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
 .
        * disk-utils/fdisk.c: Added type a7 = NEXTSTEP (fixes bug 3259)
Files:
 35583d5f0c82a81fafde672bd67927d7  512542  base  -  util-linux_2.5-5.tar.gz
 60698e61dd5e61a707fdec7c0dcec614  24607  base  -  util-linux_2.5-5.diff.gz
 da97c9d2453818bfd790c7e4c10a16ba  136966  base  required  util-linux_2.5-5_i386.deb


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Mr Stuart Lamble wrote:
> All very nice, but it dodges the major reason for people disliking duplicate
> copies of messages: they pay for their PPP link (or UUCP feed, or whatever).
> Identifying duplicates by their message IDs means that you have to download
> both messages, unless you can do the filtering at your ISP's end of the link.
> 
> I'm not overly concerned personally at the moment - I'm at university, and
> the government pays for my feed :-) - but it's generally not good etiquette
> full stop.


Bandwidth prices have dropped quite healthily in recent years, and they
are going to continue to do so.  Rambling on about being cc'd, when the
bandwidth prices are still dropping, and YOU HAVE alternatives, is silly
at best.


Those of you who've been going on and on about this, consuming far too
much human-time (on this already excessively voluminous list) :

1) Have you switched up to a 28.8kbps modem yet, or at least a 14.4kbps
modem?  Yes, modems cost money, but shelling out a little for a modem
now may save you heavily in bandwidth if you transfer much data - and
would save you a lot more than badgering people about cc'ing.

2) Are you transferring your mail gzip'd?  If not, why not?  Have you
bothered to look for an ISP that will help you do this?  This too would
save you a lot more than badgering people about cc'ing.

3) Have you bothered to look for an ISP that will do upstream filtering?
Have you even bothered to ask your current ISP if they'd be willing?  If
you want to do all your interaction with the internet over a low
bandwidth link, and you're concerned about bandwidth costs, then this
SHOULD be a deciding factor in your choice of ISP.  This also, would
save you a lot more than badgering people about cc'ing.


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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.11

In trying to make a Debian package, I managed to create a regular
file in debian-tmp/usr/lib (a wrong flag with install).

When I tried to test-install the package, there were a few warnings,
but dpkg happily overwrote /usr/lib with that particular text file.
I'll eagerly await what fsck has to say about this.

I'll have another go at developing for Debian when that particular
bug has been fixed.
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Storing one thing in one place is an excellent goal.

Treating multiple things as tho they were one thing (EG "all printers
use the same paper) can be troublesome.

Ideal: keep the option of an /etc/papersize, but allow a user to
override /etc/papersize if desired, thru ~/papersize or environment
variables.

Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> 
> >Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
> >attribute of a machine?
> 
> Paper size effect more that just printers.  Previewers and tex tools
> come to mind, there may be others...
> 
> All I know is right now I've got to tweak quite a few things on a
> standard debian 1.1 system so that dvips, xdvi, genscript, and a few
> other programs work well and have the same idea of a default paper
> size.
> 
> --
> Richard W Kaszeta                       Graduate Student/Sysadmin
> bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu                    University of MN, ME Dept
> http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta


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Apparently, dpkg decided to rename /usr/lib to /usr/lib.dpkg-tmp
and only removed a few files from it.  Moving the directory
back again, I got a few errors such as perl being unable to find
libgdbm and libdb.

This appears to conform to warnings such as

dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib', which is also in package libgdbm1

Oh well... I'll wait and see what other programs will have mysterious
problems now.  Seems like I hit ^C fast enough to avoid total lossage.

The problem still needs to be fixed, though.
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>These problems with the unpacked (preinstalled configured) latex (and
>related) packages has been noticed earlier but was never dealed with.
>Anyone having a mail adress at hand for contacting the latex3 team?

The 'Latex3 Home Page',
http://homepage.cistron.nl/~jlbraams/ltx3/latex3.html,

says the following:

If you would like to contact the LaTeX3 Project Team personally (for
example for speaking at conferences, volunteering effort, offering
consultancy work, etc.) then please follow the instructions for
submitting a bug report.

The 'bug report page' is 

http://homepage.cistron.nl/~jlbraams/ltx3/bugs.html

Erick, do you want to send the email, or shall I?

-- 
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marin66# dpkg -i bind_4.9.3-P1-3.deb 
(Reading database ... 22241 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace bind (using bind_4.9.3-P1-3.deb) ...
start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/named': No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing bind_4.9.3-P1-3.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 bind_4.9.3-P1-3.deb

Yves.

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Package: sendmail
Version: 8.7.5-4

marin38# dpkg -i sendmail_8.7.5-4.deb 
(Reading database ... 22224 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace sendmail (using sendmail_8.7.5-4.deb) ...
start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/sendmail': No such file 
or directory
dpkg: error processing sendmail_8.7.5-4.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 sendmail_8.7.5-4.deb

Apparently the install fails because the installation script is run with
-e set. If I touch /usr/sbin/sendmail, it installs fine.

Yves.


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Package: cron
Version: 3.0pl1-33

Here is what I get:

marin13# dpkg -i cron_3.0pl1-33.deb 
(Reading database ... 22220 files and directories currently installed.)         
Preparing to replace cron (using cron_3.0pl1-33.deb) ...
start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/cron': No such file or d
irectory
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/cron': No such file or d
irectory
dpkg: error processing cron_3.0pl1-33.deb (--install):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/cron': No such file or d
irectory
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 cron_3.0pl1-33.deb

Apparently the install fails because the installation script is run with
-e set. If I touch /usr/sbin/cron, it installs fine.

Yves.

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On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Dan Stromberg wrote:

> Storing one thing in one place is an excellent goal.
> 
> Treating multiple things as tho they were one thing (EG "all printers
> use the same paper) can be troublesome.
> 
> Ideal: keep the option of an /etc/papersize, but allow a user to
> override /etc/papersize if desired, thru ~/papersize or environment
> variables.

That's what libpaper does: use whatever paper size is in the PAPER env
var, or if empty whatever name found in the file whose name is in the
PAPERSIZE env var, or if this var is empty too look in /etc/papersize,
defaulting to letter (sigh).

Yves.



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I've noticed that version 2.0.7 of the kernel packages, i.e.,
kernel-headers, kernel-image, and kernel-source, for the i386 have
been sitting in Incoming for about a month.  There are no .changes
files for these packages, which is probably the reason that they have
not been transferred out of the Incoming directory.

Last month I saw these packages in Incoming and compiled a new
pcmcia-cs package for this kernel version hoping that it would be
released along with them.  Well, the pcmcia-cs package has been
released for kernel version 2.0.7, but the kernel packages in
unstable/binary-i386/base are still version 2.0.6.

Can someone please transfer these packages to the unstable
distribution tree?  Thanks.

--
Brian


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> Package: libpaper
> Version: 1.0-1
> 
> The package contains /etc/papersize as a dpkg-handled conffile, but
> this file is also modified by many packages' maintainer scripts
> (including those of libpaper).
> 
> This is forbidden.  See the dpkg programmers' manual.

As I said before, this will be changed by libpaper 1.0-2. Which will maybe
have a papersize command instead of paper. 

Yves.



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> Package: libpaper
> Version: 1.0-1
> 
> The package contains:
> -r--r--r-- root/root       718 Aug 13 18:04 1996 usr/man/man1/paper.1.gz
> 
> 2. Either it should not be compressed (see the guidelines) or we
> should mandate compressed manpages.

I remember that a long time ago it was said that it was okay to gzip
manual pages because the manual reader did handle them nicely? If not,
I vote for having gzipped manual pages. The problem if it is not specified
clearly is that one cannot just gzip -9f /usr/man/man?/* because then
when packages are removed the original manual pages are not found and the 
gzipped ones not removed; and it would be foolish to make dpkg handle that
special case. If nobody objects, can we have gzipped (not compressed)
manual pages by default?

In the meantime, should I not compress the manual pages?

Yves.



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Package: doc-debian
Version: 1.0-3

In /usr/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt.gz:

                         HOW TO REPORT A BUG IN DEBIAN
                                       
   Send mail to debian-bugs@pixar.com, as described below.

However, according to:

    http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/Reporting.html

the address is now:

    submit@bugs.debian.org.

ttfn/rjk


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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
message to forwarded@bugs.debian.org.

The maintainer listed against each package is derived from the Maintainer
field of the package as found in the development tree; there is an override
file that can be amended to get the right results if you have taken over a
package and do not expect to issue a new version soon.

Variant versions of the Maintainer field for the same actual package
maintainer will be listed separately.

Maintainers with few outstanding bugs appear first, to avoid those with few
bugs being lost deep in the message.

 Package     Ref    Subject

Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 lyx, ftp.d   4078  lyx should be in `contrib'

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu> (1 bugs):
 make         4073  make pattern rules delete intermediate files

Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de> (1 bugs):
 sysklogd     4163  syslogd loops

Brian Mays <brian@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 cpio         4072  cpio package is missing rmt.8 manual

Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu> (1 bugs):
 exmh         3824  exmh fails to start

Martin Schulze <joey@namib.north.de> (1 bugs):
 zoo          3961  14 character file name limit in zoo

Nikhil Nair <nn201@cus.cam.ac.uk> (1 bugs):
 gnuchess     4123  "gnuchess" requires changes for multi-arch support

Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.au> (1 bugs):
 unarj        3641  unarj description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pk

bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. White) (1 bugs):
 gnats        3053  gnats: typo in postinst omits install-info

David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs.ch> (1 bugs):
 rpncalc      4156  rpncalc has unexecutable unwriteable /usr/man, /usr/man/man

Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (1 bugs):
 dmalloc      3925  "dmalloc" requires changes for multi-arch support

Mike Coleman <coleman@chez-gnu.cstp.umkc.edu> (1 bugs):
 nn           4181  Searching for wrong active file

mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) (1 bugs):
 elv-ctags    2503  elvis and emacs both provide ctags

Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> (1 bugs):
 ferret       4164  Ferret extended description has blank lines

Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com> (1 bugs):
 mgt          4023  "mgt" requires changes for multi-arch support

Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net> (1 bugs):
 sp           4102  sp and LaTeX problems

awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.P. Guy) (2 bugs):
 dpkg-ftp     2870  dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug
 dpkg-ftp     2933  dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002

adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew D. Fernandes) (2 bugs):
 acs          3559  acs description: no ext
 acs          3851  "acs" requires changes to support multiple arches

Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.com> (2 bugs):
 tin          3787  tin uses /etc/news/descriptions instead of /etc/news/newsgr
 tin          3942  tin cannot find Newsgroup Descriptions

Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenster.de> (2 bugs):
 electric-f   3582  electric-fence description: no ext
 electric-f   4045  "electric-fence" requires changes for multi-arch support

Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 lists.debi   3199  Bizarre message from debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org
 lists.debi   3978  problem (re)subscribing to debian-devel

Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@ed.ac.uk> (2 bugs):
 ispell       2425  ispell thinks `formated' is correct
 ispell       3196  ispell symlinks broken

Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 bison        3955  yacc script uses $* instead of "$@"
 bison        4052  access permissions for /usr/bin/{mkparser, mkparserclass}

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 lrzsz        4075  Possible security problem with lrzsz
 mingetty     3362  Problems encountered while compiling "mingetty" for m68k ar

Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 www.debian   3431  some packages have no information on WWW-server
 www.debian   3700  Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE" ...>

Steve Greenland <stevegr@neosoft.com> (2 bugs):
 nvi          2825  restricted movement in nvi
 nvi          3967  hex codes instead of 8-bit characters

Christian Linhart <chris@debian.org> (2 bugs):
 xarchie       887  xarchie barfs when ftp closes unexpectedly
 xarchie      1275  xarchie clumsy with 2-button mouse

Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> (2 bugs):
 libwww-per   3611  libwww-perl description: no ext
 perl-tk      4068  pgs in perl-tk does not work

Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu.edu> (2 bugs):
 hdparm       2197  hdparm -c switch
 hdparm       3866  "hdparm" requires changes to support multiple arches

Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cindy.et.tudelft.nl> (2 bugs):
 slrn         4069  slrn gives error
 slrn         4103  slrn epends on unavailable slang-lib09931

dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor) (2 bugs):
 cdtool       2450  `cdir' prints out huge chunks of /etc/passwd !
 unclutter    4042  "unclutter" requires changes for multi-arch support

Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com> (3 bugs):
 sam          4030  "sam" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ucbmpeg      3454  ucbmpeg control file problems
 ucbmpeg      3509  mpeg_play puts bogus statistics on stdout

Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org> (3 bugs):
 lilo         3247  Lilo unpack removes boot.b
 lilo         3761  LILO installation problem
 lilo         3772  lilo should not depend on MBR

jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan K. Rabone) (3 bugs):
 trn           825  trn warning messages corrupt thread selector display
 trn          1845  dead.letter and dead.article are world readable
 trn          2298  trn bug with shell escaping

Richard Kettlewell <richard@elmail.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 majordomo    1881  Majordomo UID wrong?
 repair       1532  no revision number with repair
 vm           4031  "vm" requires changes for multi-arch support

mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Nonweiler) (3 bugs):
 ipx          2913  ipx bootup scripts are broken
 ipx          3592  ipx description: no ext
 ncpfs        3630  ncpfs description: summary starts w/ pkg name

Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect.Net> (3 bugs):
 rc           3206  rc terminates on CTRL-C
 rc           3533  Problems encountered while building "rc" on m68k arch
 rc           3607  rc description: no ext

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (3 bugs):
 bugs.debia   2296  debian-bugs WWW doesn't say how to find out Debian version
 bugs.debia   2966  bugs2ftp is broken
 bugs.debia   2998  bugs2ftp still flaky

Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vacanti@DeSelby.xs4all.nl> (3 bugs):
 diald        3457  diald control file problems
 diald        3573  diald description: ext start blank line
 diald        4128  ppp/diald interaction

Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> (3 bugs):
 squid        3834  squid core dumps regularly
 tkdesk       3640  tkdesk description: ext start indented
 tkdesk, tk   3842  tkdesksh grows really large

Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org> (3 bugs):
 manpages     2861  glob(3) references glob(7); the latter doesn't exist
 manpages     3165  fcntl(2) references nonexistent man pages
 manpages-d   4193  German Manpages

Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (3 bugs):
 grep         3595  grep description: no ext
 grep         4182  grep on /proc/kcore dumps core
 strace       2177  "strace -ff -o file dpkg --install foo.deb" causes dpkg to 

Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 groff        2233  groff-1.09-4
 groff        2970  soelim [in groff] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 groff        4013  groff version is old

Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> (4 bugs):
 pine         2365  Pine erases message before I can read it
 pine         2367  Pine supplies PATH line when posting news
 pine         3253  Pine over-encodes files (came from Bug#932)
 pine         4158  pine does not lock mailbox properly - loss of mail is likel

Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net> (4 bugs):
 abuse        3963  abuse
 abuse        4096  abuse is still a.out
 apsfilter    3224  apsfilter doesn't configure on a read-only filesystem
 apsfilter    3812  Apsfilter should depend on file

Christophe Le Bars <clebars@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 xcoral       3654  xcoral description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xcoral       4115  "xcoral" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcoral       4159  xcoral dies
 xtel         4037  "xtel" requires changes for multi-arch support

Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 libpaper     4125  libpaper should ask for papersize
 libpaper     4137  libpaper contains compressed manpage, or policy should chan
 libpaper     4138  libpaper /usr/bin/paper is likely to have name clashes
 libpaper     4139  libpaper /etc/papersize is auto-handled conffile

joost witteveen <joostje@master.debian.org> (4 bugs):
 gs           4109  "gs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 gsfonts      1112  a2gs output unusable by gs but usable by ghostview
 gsfonts      3596  gsfonts description: no ext
 gsfonts      3673  gsfonts description: no ext

Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 termcap-co    836  Possible bugs in termcap system
 termcap-co   1045  tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd)
 termcap-co   1803  /etc/termcap linux definition incomplete
 termcap-co   3721  Problems while compiling "termcap-compat" on m68k arch

sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kleinmann") (4 bugs):
 elv-vi       4034  "elvis" requires changes for multi-arch support
 elviscmn     3562  elviscmn description: no ext
 elvisctags   4016  ref not in elvisctags
 elvisnox     2592  Elvis Compilation Peoblem

Guy Maor <maor@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 debianutil   3122  run-parts should ignore RCS
 debianutil   3511  typo on installkernel man page
 ftp.debian   1672  non-free packages
 ftp.debian   3529  libgr and zlib1 collide, but don't conflict!

Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz.ch> (4 bugs):
 rsynth       2206  Description
 rsynth       3684  rsynth description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 rsynth       3932  "rsynth" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rsynth       4141  "say" is an a.out binary

Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Uni-Mainz.DE> (5 bugs):
 amd          3208  amd bug
 kbd          1901  `compose' keytable command not documented
 kbd          3988  Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard maps.
 ptx          4157  `permutated' is not a word
 vlock        4170  vlock can make the system unusable

Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 setserial    2892  setserial marked as Essential when it isn't
 setserial    3638  setserial description: no ext
 setserial    3747  "setserial" doesn't support multiple architectures.
 setserial    3762  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usually hangs machine
 setserial    3800  setserial should not be essential

Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 Umsdos       4067  Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.
 nas          1747  nas: no manpages for au available
 nas          3107  nas postinst could use a warning
 nas          3510  removal of nas doesn't kill 'au' daemon
 umsdos       3885  "umsdos' requires changes to support multiple arches

debian-devel@pixar.com (5 bugs):
 general      2022  utmp corruption
 general      2481  /sbin/ldconfig in scripts
 general      2717  conffiles in /usr
 general      3066  a.out binaries in various packages
 general      3161  Newbie 1.1beta installation.

Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.net> (5 bugs):
 procmail     3197  wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/procmail
 procmail     3349  Problems encountered while compiling "procmail" for m68k ar
 procmail     3644  procmail description: no ext
 procmail     3705  procmail does close(-1)
 procmail     4092  procmail docs not owned by root

Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at> (5 bugs):
 cnews        3476  cnews description is gibberish
 cnews        3852  "cnews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cnews, ine   3477  cnews and inews should be same package
 inews        3862  "inews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 nntp         3869  "nntp" requires changes to support multiple arches

gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R. Thomas) (5 bugs):
 dld          1488  dld control file dsccription problem
 dld          2209  Description
 dld          2758  dld: missing source file
 dld          3572  dld description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pkg 
 dld          3853  "dld" requires changes to support multiple arches

Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu> (6 bugs):
 bdflush      3554  bdflush description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 login        3227  login refuses, and then allows, root login on tty?
 login        3439  Login reconfigures serial port
 login        3775  upgrading login temporarily breaks it
 passwd       3408  Various bugs in passwd manpages
 passwd       3798  passwd should not be essential

dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 workbone     1381  workbone postinst fails
 workbone     1973  workbone postinst needs rewording
 workbone     1984  dpkg won't install cdtool
 workbone     3382  workbone disappears during upgrade
 workbone     3664  workbone description: no ext
 workbone     3888  "workbone" requires changes to support multiple arches

Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> (6 bugs):
 tar          4084  New tar may be broken.
 tar          4194  tar ajusts uid/mtime of symlink destination
 tar          4196  tar doesn't understand "--" flag.
 tar          4197  tar doesn't understand "--" flag
 tar          4198  tar doesn't understand "--" flag
 tar          4199  tar makes spurious complaints

Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wisc.edu> (6 bugs):
 elm          2557  add to elm manpage
 elm          2562  elm manpage paths incorrect
 elm          2789  elm doesn't show rest of pgp-signed message
 elm          2991  nfrm is not installed...
 elm          3042  Elm produces bogus Content-Type header for PGP signed stuff
 elm          3707  Problems encountered while compiling "elm" on m68k arch

Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com> (6 bugs):
 automake     3551  automake description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 dejagnu      3566  dejagnu description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 findutils    1239  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb doesn't exclude cdrom and ot
 findutils    3586  findutils description: no ext
 gwm          3594  gwm description: no ext
 oleo         3631  oleo description: no ext

Erick Branderhorst <branderhorst@heel.fgg.eur.nl> (6 bugs):
 giftrans     3284  giftrans is free
 giftrans     3930  "giftrans" requires changes for multi-arch support
 info          889  Info 3.1-6
 ntgclass     3922  "ntgclass" requires changes for multi-arch support
 untex        4038  "untex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wenglish     3655  wenglish description: no ext

Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu> (6 bugs):
 lxtools      3096  lxtools: user error (misuse of -r and filename) gives cored
 lxtools      3621  lxtools description: no ext
 taper        2891  taper documentation is missing
 taper        3115  taper recommends ftape
 taper        3535  Problems encountered while building "taper" on m68k arch
 taper        3643  taper description: no ext

dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 biff         3915  "biff" requires changes for multi-arch support
 byacc        3361  Problems encountered while compiling "byacc" for m68k arch
 byacc        3567  byacc description: no ext
 xwpe         2486  Ghost packages
 xwpe         3675  xwpe description: no ext
 xwpe         4117  "xwpe" requires changes for multi-arch support

Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@marin.fdn.fr> (7 bugs):
 apache       2802  apache tweaks
 apache       2812  Apache server: SECURITY HOLE
 apache       2934  Some cgi scripts don't work
 apache       3384  apache leaves /var/log/httpd non-empty
 apache       3470  apache problems
 apache       3940  Apache's default index.html says "CERN"
 apache       3969  Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole

Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> (7 bugs):
 dlltools     3578  dlltools description: no ext
 xpaint       3475  xpaint Recommends pbmplus
 xpaint       3699  xpaint description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xpaint       4116  "xpaint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xterm-colo   2353  postrm script broken
 xterm-colo   2710  colour xterm has problems when resizing
 xterm-colo   4105  making slrn work in a color xterm

Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org> (8 bugs):
 adduser      1711  adduser replaces NIS entries in /etc/passwd
 adduser      2309  Multiple root accounts
 adduser      3490  adduser password-setting problem
 adduser      3794  adduser should not be essential
 adduser      3861  when adduser runs finger it display all users mathcing the 
 adduser      3878  adduser --home aborts if dir exists; man page implies other
 adduser      3879  adduser: man page has '=V' strings
 adduser? m   1708  `passwd' not interruptible when invoked by `adduser'

Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de> (8 bugs):
 netstd       3980  netstd many compiler warnings
 netstd       4007  identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured
 netstd       4086  rsh segfaults with baudrate=115200
 netstd       4091  Ftp does not wait for user answers on mget
 netstd       4120  rdist & ssh
 netstd       4132  Could popclient be changed to just read the passwd from std
 netstd       4190  moderate security hole in telnetd
 tcpdump      3742  tcpdump doesn't notice icmp packets on PPP interface

Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk> (8 bugs):
 xcompat      3246  Cant load library libXt.so.6
 xcompat      4130  Old motif applications don't run
 xcontrib     1981  xman fails to format ascii(7) correctly
 xcontrib     3857  listres dumps core
 xcontrib     3954  xload dont needs tu run suid
 xcontrib     4036  "xcontrib" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcontrib     4087  xgc dumps core
 xtrlock      4041  "xtrlock" requires changes for multi-arch support

Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca> (9 bugs):
 lclint       3944  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 lclint       4165  LCLint extended description has one blank line 
 lclint       4171  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mailx        2009  mailx ignores ^C at Subject prompt
 mailx        2010  mailx misses VM-generated From_ lines
 mailx        2284  mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends mail !
 mailx        2356  mailx -- problems with TMPDIR symlink
 mailx        2733  /usr/bin/mail leaves lock files when disk full
 mailx        2971  mailx doesn't quit on two successive C-c

Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.eas.asu.edu> (9 bugs):
 auto-pgp     2211  Description
 auto-pgp     3216  auto-pgp doesn't remove info entry when removed
 auto-pgp     3680  auto-pgp description: ext start indented
 auto-pgp     3917  "auto-pgp" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dosemu       1791  dosemu troubles
 dosemu       3671  dosemu description: no ext
 dosemu       4048  access permissions for /usr/bin/dos
 dosemu       4053  a) still a.out b) script: i have no 2nd floppy
 dosemu       4140  dosemu package is lacking its dos utilities

Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian.org> (10 bugs):
 bc           3727  Problems encountered while compiling "bc" for m68k arch.
 bsdmainuti   3782  GNU nm breaks lorder
 bsdutils      988  `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity
 bsdutils     3815  "ndc stats" fails 
 ed           3726  Problems encountered while compiling "ed" for m68k arch.
 fvwm         3437  fvwm should not recommend fvwm2
 fvwm         3748  Pixmaps missing from fvwm package?
 fvwm         4082  No documentation for fvwm modules
 fvwm2        3407  fvwm2: WindowList infelicity
 xcal         3292  xcal app-defaults shouldn't be conffiles

joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org> (10 bugs):
 gnuplot      3587  gnuplot description: no ext
 pixmap       3962  Pixmap "calloc" problem
 pixmap       4100  pixmap dumps core (bad depth?)
 pixmap       4169  pixmap dies
 xosview      3385  xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (again)
 xosview      3737  xosview uses -O3 -f...
 xosview      3873  Xosview hangs when a dummy net device is in the kernel.
 xosview      4033  "xosview" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xosview      4081  xosview doesn't install a binary
 xosview      4118  xosview doesn't use XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com> (10 bugs):
 gawk         3328  Problems encountered while compiling "gawk" for m68k arch
 mawk         3542  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3544  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3617  mawk description: ext extra spaces
 most         2205  Description
 most         3158  most differs from man page
 most         3620  most description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 npasswd-bo   3804  npasswd-boulder doesn't change NIS passwds
 npasswd_bo   3495  doesn't respect nis/yp
 slang-deve   3645  slang-devel description: ext extra spaces

Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de> (11 bugs):
 at           2475  `at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format
 cfingerd     3250  cfingerd descriptive text
 cfingerd     3433  weird output if cfingerd.conf: NO_PLAN = ""
 cfingerd     3791  Problems with "cfingerd" when compiling on m68k arch
 cfingerd     4146  cfingerd incorrectly says [MSG-N]
 dbview       3565  dbview description: ext extra spaces
 gpm          2874  gpm will not work if the system is setup for a serial conso
 gpm          3280  (no subject)
 gpm          3373  gpm -k hangs if X server running on console
 rman         3304  [rman] Off-by-one in generated HTML
 xfractint    3186  Can't chdir

Steve Greenland <stevegr@master.debian.org> (11 bugs):
 cern-httpd   3124  CERN httpd sends useless cron mail
 cern-httpd   3327  cern-httpd postinst hangs if daemon configured for inetd
 cern-httpd   3370  httpdconfig installs Welcome.html even if index.html exists
 cern-httpd   3467  cern-httpd curious message
 cern-httpd   3486  forwarded message from Cron Daemon
 cern-httpd   3735  cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn on redirect
 cern-httpd   3850  "cern-httpd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cron         1681  Missing files
 cron         3047  cron script problem?
 cron         3876  checksecurity shouldn't search ncpfs/smbfs filesystems
 cron         4204  cron does not install if /usr/sbin/cron does not exist!?

Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.north.de> (12 bugs):
 smail        1481  smail paniclog suggestion
 smail        1693  forwarded message from Harald T. Alvestrand
 smail        1799  smail nameresloving problems
 smail        1929  aliasinclude and forwardinclude directors missing
 smail        2348  Smail fails to define NO_PETER_HONEYMAN
 smail        2423  scattered sendmail links
 smail        3046  Smail configuration problem?
 smail        3164  runq dumps core
 smail        3366  Problems encountered while compiling "smail" for m68k arch
 smail        3497  smail calls obsolete yp_order
 smail        4097  smail cron jobs don't test if smail is installed
 smail        4151  /etc/cron.daily/smail not removed with smail

jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson, Jim) (12 bugs):
 idanish      3670  idanish description: no ext
 idanish      3913  "idanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wfrench      3687  wfrench description: no ext
 wfrench      3927  "wfrench" requires changes for multi-arch support
 witalian     3691  witalian description: no ext
 witalian     3923  "witalian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wnorwegian   3688  wnorwegian description: no ext
 wnorwegian   3912  "wnorwegian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wspanish     3698  wspanish description: no ext
 wspanish     3926  "wspanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wswedish     3682  wswedish description: no ext
 wswedish     3928  "wswedish" requires changes for multi-arch support

daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (David P. Boswell) (12 bugs):
 shellutils    821  /bin/echo doesn't check write errors
 shellutils   1164  who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp
 shellutils   1560  `su' produces incomplete log entries when not in ordinary s
 shellutils   1616  'who' can't find utmp
 shellutils   2068  su doesn't su.
 shellutils   2292  date does not support dates past 2000 !
 shellutils   2345  Inclusion of shadow breaks up some packages in the current 
 shellutils   2959  date + bug
 shellutils   3087  Bug in date.
 shellutils   3359  Problems encountered while compiling "sh-utils" for m68k ar
 shellutils   3609  shellutils description: no ext
 shellutils   4154  `echo' provides no way to unparse arguments

Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org> (13 bugs):
 man          2969  zsoelim [in man] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 man          3098  man-2.3.10-11 segfaults
 man          3109  man 9menu unpleasant
 man          3220  apropos dumps core
 man          3725  Another data point on apropos segfaulting.
 man          3739  `man -l -' for stdin doesn't work
 man          3766  "man" acting too smart.
 man          3788  `apropos' matches only word-substrings even in page names
 man          3939  /etc/manpath.config is not a conffile.
 man          4192  "input in flex scanner failed"
 man          4207  man sends "No manual entry" error to stdout
 ppp          3808  ppp postinst gives error
 ppp          4121  ppp setup bug (postinst?)

Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresden.de> (14 bugs):
 doc-debian   4201  doc-debian `bug-reporting.txt' out of date
 genscript    3169  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papersize
 linuxdoc-s   3180  linuxdoc-sgml semantics and formatting problems
 linuxdoc-s   3317  linuxdoc-sgml info files are missing all ftp names...
 lpr           902  lpr can't print a PostScript file ?!
 lpr          1061  /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man5/printcap.5
 lpr          2556  "\031\1"
 lpr          3038  SOLVED: can't remove print jobs
 lpr          3156  lpr and smail uuname returned -1
 lpr, magic   3075  lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts failed
 mosaic       4166  Mosaic extended description has one blank line
 mosaic, xs   4160  Mosaic caused X to become unresponsive to mouse and keyboar
 rcs          2302  RCS - problems with msdos filesystems
 seyon        2701  seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't work

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lot49.med.miami.edu> (15 bugs):
 mh           2334  MH scan -width dumps core
 mh           2346  MH can lose mail
 mh           2648  
 mh           2661  dist and mh both have a dist manpage
 ncurses-ba   2863  dselect and ncurses in select window
 ncurses-ba   3163  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 ncurses-ba   3843  dselect resets automargins in xterm and vt220, not console
 ncurses-bi   2076  reset(1)
 ncurses-bi   2474  /usr/bin/reset does the wrong thing
 ncurses-bi   3191  reset(1) doesn't bring an xterm out of alt charset mode
 ncurses-bi   3192  tset(1) man page problem
 ncurses-bi   3829  tic.1 refers to unavailable infotocap command.
 ncurses-bi   3830  captoinfo confused by /etc/termcap entries
 ncurses-bi   3973  Home/End keys don't work right in nvi
 ncurses-te   2158  new ncurses bug ?

Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.edu> (16 bugs):
 auctex       4021  "auctex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mh-papers    3613  mh-papers description: no ext
 netpbm       3712  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands
 netpbm       3717  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands 
 netpbm       3743  Problems encountered while compiling "netpbm" on m68k arch
 netpbm       3792  Problems with "netpbm" when compiling on m68k arch
 netpbm       3975  netpbm is mostly free
 netpbm       4014  netpbm is missing manual pages
 netpbm       4183  Typo in netpbm setup
 term         3714  Problems encountered while compiling 'term' on m68k arch
 xless        3773  xless default window too thin and won't go away when asked 
 xless        4027  "xless" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xpaste       4046  "xpaste" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xv           3837  Why isn't xv linked with the libgr libraries ?
 zircon       4162  stack trace
 zircon       4187  "zircon" requires changes for multi-arch support

Erick Branderhorst <branderh@debian.org> (16 bugs):
 glibcdoc     2906  Inconsistency in libc.info re snprintf
 hyperlatex   4071  ps2gif has incorrect pathname
 idutch       3672  idutch description: no ext
 idutch       3931  "idutch" requires changes for multi-arch support
 latex        3415  Xdvi and postscript fonts
 latex        3832  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        3835  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        4174  Unable to use 'dc' fonts in latex2e
 latex        4191  Latex_2e-7 has redundant files
 latex,xdvi   2054  no subject (file transmission)
 mathpad      2231  mathpad problems
 mathpad      3312  installation and startup problems with mathpad
 mflib        2185  texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?
 mflib        3323  MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk
 wdutch       3697  wdutch description: no ext
 wdutch       3914  "wdutch" requires changes for multi-arch support

Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.org> (17 bugs):
 acm          1366  acm networking problems
 acm          3548  acm description: no ext
 acm          3849  "acm" requires changes to support multiple arches
 aout-librl   3553  aout-librl description: no ext
 pmake        3629  pmake description: no ext
 pmake        3793  bsd.lib.mk incompatible with GNU ar
 rootdisk     2945  Bus Error given by rootdisk
 rootdisk     3142  1.1 installation and large partitions
 rootdisk     3147  May 19 boot floppies...
 rootdisk     3272  bug in root disks...
 rootdisk     3420  Boot disk creats corrupted filesystems in some situations
 rootdisk     3451  Missing label 'llseek' in e2fsck - rootdisk
 rootdisk     3488  basedisks modconf problems
 rootdisk     3489  basedisks configuration problems
 rootdisk     3491  basedisks newly booted system problems
 rootdisk     3892  mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbol 'llseek'
 rootdisk     3968  installation checks for CD-ROM too often

David Engel <david@ods.com> (18 bugs):
 aout-binut   3552  aout-binutils description: no ext
 binutils     1108  No manpage ar(5)
 binutils     1303  `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete
 binutils     2161  elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld can be made to segfault
 binutils     3574  binutils description: no ext
 dialog       2591  rootdisk
 dialog       3514  Required package modconf depends on extra package dialog
 gcc          2493  GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied external ref to static functio
 gcc          2909  GCC Info has funny formatting
 gcc          2910  GCC accepts multi-line strings without \ or " " &c
 gcc          4011  simple c++ program segfaults
 gdb           660  GDB gets address of structure member wrong in memory breakp
 gdb          3515  gdb prints corrupted message
 gdb          3599  gdb description: no ext
 gdb          3823  Gdb's `handle' command behaviour differs from doc.
 ldso         4188  ldd never gives non-zero exit status
 tkined       4044  "tkined" requires changes for multi-arch support
 tkman        2884  tkman doesn't use /var/catman

Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> (18 bugs):
 inn          2112  Submission for INN doc file
 inn          2220  INN feed password interacts badly with trn XMODE READER
 inn          2822  Some minor glitches with the inn package
 inn          3153  inn ctlinnd not readable/executable, but /var/run/innd is !
 inn          3459  inn should Depend on inewsinn, not contain it
 inn          3462  INN postinst and configuration problems
 inn          3517  innd won't remove syslog.conf lines when purged
 inn          3950  INN message size limitation to 350K does not work
 minicom      3601  minicom description: no ext
 nis          3632  nis description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 nis          3833  Manual pages for some yp* programs in nis
 sysvinit     2439  rc?.d scripts sometimes not run
 sysvinit     2796  sysvinit makes obsolete symbolic link
 sysvinit     2908  mesg sets wrong permissions on /dev/ttyp*
 sysvinit     3130  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3140  /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bugs
 sysvinit     3143  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3720  shutdown prints "You don't exist. Go away!"

dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silber) (20 bugs):
 dbackup      1406  backup postrm can fail when it shouldn't
 fortune      1118  fortune is setuid games ?!
 fortune      3213  fortune need libc.so.4
 fortune      3571  fortune description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 fortune      3818  fortune is still a.out !
 fortune      3855  "fortune" requires changes to support multiple arches
 fortune      4142  strfile, unstr are a.out binaries
 fortune      4143  fortune is an a.out binary
 uucp         1265  Misc. uucp bugs
 uucp         2198  uuxqt can't execute rmail
 uucp         2293  uucp should compress big files in /usr/doc/uucp
 uucp         2810  uucp postrm should use -f flag to rm
 uucp         3112  UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and does not create it)
 uucp         3503  still a.out (and src doesn't build binary *.deb out of the 
 uucp         3711  Problems encountered while compiling "uucp" on m68k arch
 uucp         3816  uucp is still a.out
 uucp         3890  "uucp" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         3936  uutraf dumps core in gmtime()
 uucp         3937  uutraf has repeated words in messages and is not explicit
 uucp         4127  uucp uses /usr/spool

Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.superlink.net> (20 bugs):
 mc           2823  mc segfaults on reconnect of ftpfs
 mc           3128  mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1
 mc           3245  mc should depend on gpm
 mc           3521  mc core dumps
 mc           3547  Problems encountered while compiling "mc" on m68k arch
 mc (Midnig   2242  mc should depend on ncurses3.0
 timezone     2167  timezone zdump for US zones gives GMT instead of local time
 timezone     2169  timezone zdump utility should be able to dump files
 timezone     2170  timezone: it needs more documentation
 timezone     2171  timezone: how to determine zone setting?
 timezone     2275  ctime(3) should be replaced by newctime(3)
 timezone     2671  timezone Mexico/General doesn't switch to DST
 timezone     2682  Zoneinfo library has a name-clash with compression library
 timezone     2785  Timezone has static library?
 timezone     3084  missing timezones
 timezone     3363  Problems encountered while compiling "timezone" for m68k ar
 timezone     3647  timezone description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 timezone     3799  timezone should not be essential
 timezone     4061  Debian
 timezone?,   2942  Wrong timezone for Europe/Warsaw?

Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org> (22 bugs):
 bind         2530  bind locks up system
 bind         2819  named loses (in an easily fixed way) on 1.2.13 kernels
 bind         3478  bind should use lowercase `none' in postinst
 bind         3505  ndc does not use start-stop-daemon
 bind         3507  named postinst mangled my configuration
 bind         3966  nslookup: fatal flex scanner internal error--end of buffer 
 ddd-smotif   3307  ddd-smotif does not replace ddd
 deliver      3319  deliver does not set exit codes as expected by sendmail
 maelstrom    3287  (no subject)
 motifnls     4028  "motifnls" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mount        2304  umount calls gethostbyname() at consequence
 mount        3993  users can't umount user mounts
 mount        4147  [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linux-security] Vulnerability in 
 sendmail     3151  Sendmail runs too late
 sendmail     3752  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3753  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3754  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3756  sendmail has wrong path to procmail
 sendmail     4064  sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend
 sendmail     4065  FEATURE(local_procmail) needs manual override to /usr/bin
 sendmail     4085  /etc/init.d/sendmail does not stop and restart correctly
 sendmail     4203  sendmail does not install if /usr/sbin/sendmail does not ex

Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connect.net> (26 bugs):
 kernel       1707  image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o
 kernel       1744  dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/
 kernel       1759  running out of swap causes deadlock
 kernel       1914  general protection in unix_proto_connect
 kernel       1922  1.3.43 Kernel is too nice
 kernel       1962  kernel needs sbpcd.h editing in some cases
 kernel       1989  mmap bug?
 kernel       2063  scsi driver sequence unreasonable
 kernel       2064  aha1740 driver only supports one card
 kernel       2105  console error messages "Source Route Failed."
 kernel       2463  "msdos" filesystem needed for bootstrapping
 kernel       2470  in kernel Attached ether adapter driver interferes with lp 
 kernel       2692  kernel swap space problem
 kernel       2940  image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape device
 kernel       3019  no 386 support in kernel_image 1.3.100
 kernel       3040  Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel not compatible with my SB16 c
 kernel       3106  v 1.1 beta kernel image not for i386
 kernel       3195  "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fails due to missing "serial" mod
 kernel       3258  pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug
 kernel       3265  kernel-image and PS/2 mouse problem
 kernel       3268  network modules don't work with kernel 
 kernel       3275  dpkg --no-act leaves control info in /tmp
 kernel       3393  printer-driver problem in kernel 1.99.7
 kernel       3397  (no subject)
 kernel       3516  SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can cause major corruption
 kernel       3999  nfs module fails to load

Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au> (28 bugs):
 lynx         2067  lynx -source can't find documents
 lynx         2295  (no subject)
 lynx         2946  Lynx gives fatal error message
 lynx         2964  lynx -dump fails through proxy
 lynx         2965  lynxexec not compiled into lynx.
 lynx         3105  lynx access to dot files is disabled
 lynx         3386  lynx version number changes
 lynx         3469  lynx default home page
 lynx         3606  lynx description: ext extra spaces
 lynx         3846  lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> in <dl>
 lynx         3875  Lynx thinks *.deb files are "text/plain".
 lynx         4005  Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *.deb problem.
 mandelspaw   3176  mandelspawn slave problems
 rxvt         2510  rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts
 rxvt         2989  rxvt source bug
 rxvt         4032  "rxvt" requires changes for multi-arch support
 samba        4133  Samba goes into busy loop?
 tcsh          820  tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 tcsh         3396  tcsh doesn't provide c-shell
 tcsh, csh    3466  tcsh, csh should use update-alternatives, not diversions
 tf           2547  tf does not support visual mode
 tf           3886  "tf" requires changes to support multiple arches
 xntp         2051  /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handled conffile
 xntp         2982  xntp calls ntpdate at start
 xtron        1703  xtron documentation
 ytalk        2196  ytalk `shell' option can't run dpkg
 ytalk        2575  ytalk lies about who you are talking to
 ytalk        2699  ytalk doesn't use FQDNs

Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com> (28 bugs):
 arrl-infos   2737  arrl-infoserv: missing source file
 arrl-infos   3677  arrl-infoserv description: no ext
 ash          2604  ash: cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal sign
 ash          3056  ash-source contains objects
 ash          3718  Problems encountered while compiling "ash" on m68k arch.
 boot-flopp    998  Can't Configure DOS Partitions
 boot-flopp   1032  Linux Counter Project Info Not Included
 boot-flopp   1372  rootdisk: no dvorak keytable
 boot-flopp   2569  bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdomainname?
 boot-flopp   2738  Installing Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2739  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2740  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2850  nfs.o isn't loaded in clean debian 1.1 nfs install
 boot-flopp   3031  various boot-floppies nits
 boot-flopp   3064  need a pointer in /usr/doc/boot-floppies
 boot-flopp   3121  boot-floppies doesn't have basedisks.sh
 boot-flopp   3575  boot-floppies description: no ext
 mbr          3789  `mbr' package doesn't say how to install/use it
 modconf      3628  modconf description: no ext
 modconf      3740  A couple of problems popped up while using "modconf"
 pcb          3413  linked with aout libXaw
 pcb          3635  pcb description: no ext
 pcb          3872  "pcb" requires changes to support multiple arches
 pcb          4026  "pcb" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rspfd        3881  "rspfd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 syslinux     2774  syslinux: missing source file
 syslinux     3642  syslinux description: no ext
 syslinux     4004  procinfo breaks without modules

Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> (31 bugs):
 autoconf     3839  autoconf wants `nawk'
 cvs          3374  CVS wrappers can't be turned off
 cvs          3970  cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1
 cvs          4008  CVS texinfo docs won't format correctly with TeX
 cvs          4024  "cvs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 emacs        1879  Emacs shell mode weirdness - looks like C code bug
 emacs        2183  emacs shouldn't touch /usr/local
 emacs        2235  emacs eats manual pages
 emacs        2267  emacs ange ftp fails
 emacs        2318  Emacs makes it hard for MTAs to do the right thing
 emacs        2392  Emacs mishandles fonts under X.
 emacs        2417  emacs inferior process buffers failing
 emacs        2431  Emacs mishandles X fonts.
 emacs        2476  emacs mucks up my email address
 emacs        2477  annoying bug in emacs
 emacs        2478  ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd
 emacs        2479  ange-ftp is incredibly inefficient
 emacs        2532  Emacs fails to use `set -e' in postinst
 emacs        2630  emacs package needs to break ctags-related files out separa
 emacs        2634  emacs hung
 emacs        2709  emacs should list /usr/lib/emacs/19.30/lisp/default.el as a
 emacs        2714  Emacs and XEmacs share files
 emacs        2731  emacs with gud creates ~/.terminfo/e/emacs
 emacs        2829  emacs: gdb says: slashes aren't allowed (/etc/termcap)
 emacs        3119  emacs font handling
 emacs        3179  emacs ctags segfaults
 emacs        3241  derived.el fails in emacs
 emacs        3400  gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-19.31-2
 emacs        4000  emacs can't initialize x window
 emacs        4107  emacs leaves stale lockfiles and publishes pathnames
 emacs-el     3569  emacs-el description: no ext

Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com> (31 bugs):
 bash          818  bash builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 bash         1009  bash problem with quoting/completioon
 bash         1549  bash should not have world-readable history
 bash         1624  thermal run away problem
 bash         1702  telnet+su root->thermal process
 bash         1714  bash is confused when breaking lines
 bash         1746  rsh <system> sh -i produces CPU hog
 bash         1834  [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: /etc/profile on Debian Linux
 bash         2110  Bash tab completion of non alphanumeric characters
 bash         2265  bash `horizontal scroll' can't be turned off
 bash         2301  bash doesn't document any way to safely create tmp file
 bash         2362  bash (readline) dumps core on completion
 bash         2818  bash doesn't provide enough docs
 bash         2856  fd leak in bash
 bash         3174  set -i doesn't work in bash
 bash         3177  sh -nc <command> actually runs command (!)
 bash         3353  Problems encountered while compiling "bash" for m68k arch
 bash         3538  bash on m68k doesn't use ncurses termcap emulation
 bash         3561  bash description: no ext
 bash         4180  bash has duplicate examples
 beav         3558  beav description: ext extra spaces
 git          3543  Problems encountered while compiling "git" for m68k arch
 git          3588  git description: ext extra spaces
 guile        3052  guile is missing slib.info.gz
 guile        3223  guile installs entry for slib, but no info file
 guile        3508  guile doesn't have right permissions on /usr/include/guile/
 guile        3856  "guile" requires changes to support multiple arches
 netatalk     2542  No default config files?
 netatalk     2690  netatalk: a few small problems
 python       3442  python postinst is very verbose
 xasteroids   4114  "xasteroids" requires changes for multi-arch support

Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> (33 bugs):
 ghostview    1451  `ghostviewR6' conflict with ghostview &c
 ghostview    2200  Description
 ghostview    3598  ghostview description: ext start indented
 ghostview    3759  xxgdb and ghostview have bad Maintainer field
 ghostview    4088  ghostview does not put filename in window title
 ghostview    4104  ghostview does not obey %BoundingBox: and other DSC commen
 procps       1016  top has 3's in vt100
 procps       1176  /usr/bin/top segfault with unknown terminal
 procps       1240  ps(1) man page incomplete
 procps       1246  ps man page does not agree with implementation
 procps       1336  CFLAGS shouldn't be used when linking
 procps       1533  `w' produces bogus login@, idle time &c for xdm login entry
 procps       1713  procps: manpage doesn't tell the truth
 procps       1853  top fails after 130 processes?
 procps       1908  Top and tabs
 procps       1933  w from procps gives wrong idle times
 procps       2159  "ps pids" lists more than just pids
 procps       2402  ps no longer understands `g' option
 procps       2427  top d 60 fails
 procps       2460  bizarre output from `free'
 procps       2520  procps needs dependency on ncurses3.0
 procps       2721  free fails to understand recent kernels' /proc/meminfo
 procps       2728  top coredump
 procps       2841  top produces `$<3>' at end of each line !
 procps       2938  libproc is in wrong place
 procps       3080  error message in syslog caused by ps
 procps       3102  top has problems when not on console
 procps       3260  psupdate man page out of date
 procps       3350  Problems encountered while compiling "procps" for m68k arch
 procps       3989  `w' produces corrupted output
 procps       4062  running ps as root does not report controlling ttys correct
 procps       4152  psupdate writes /etc/psdatabase, not /boot/psdatabase
 xxgdb        3678  xxgdb description: no ext

Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org> (41 bugs):
 mkisofs      3480  missing information in manpage
 mkisofs      3539  mkisofs stops if an error occurs
 mkisofs      3540  mkisofs stops if a problem occurs
 mkisofs      3703  mkisofs stops if a permission problem occurs
 xbase         725  twm places windows incorrectly
 xbase         740  xclock leaves `droppings' in its window
 xbase         773  xmh falls over if mh is not installed
 xbase         775  twm reports errors on incorrect line numbers
 xbase        1621  Xmark has no manpage
 xbase        1690  XDM protection fault on X config error
 xbase        1691  X config allows invalid numeric range
 xbase        1819  X11 doesn't set a lock on the mouse port
 xbase        1985  xdm won't redirect to remote machines.
 xbase        2243  xterm vanishes when it's big (some escape sequence?)
 xbase        2297  xterm gets mouse-paste and RETURN in wrong order
 xbase        2313  xterm keymapping problems suspected
 xbase        2360  xdm cannot find a free VT
 xbase        3026  xbase et al postinst doesn't flush stdout
 xbase        3073  xbase contains imake and xmkmf without their config files
 xbase        3095  xbase kills xdm and *then* asks (politely, but belatedly)
 xbase        3162  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 xbase        3267  Unqualified hostnames in rstart
 xbase        3395  can't login via xdm
 xbase        3730  improper lookup of window managers by /etc/X11/Xsession
 xbase        3751  xconsole stops logging when syslogd is hupped
 xbase        3906  Errors in the Compose file for ISO-LATIN1
 xbase        3990  xdm-errors location not what FSSTND says
 xbase        4012  xbase: `window-managers' was un-correctly generated
 xbase        4015  xterm & xterm.color sets broken TERMCAP
 xbase        4173  xdm stop-script should use --pidfile
 xbase et a   3734  X11 problems
 xbase?       3110  X servers muck up xdm when uninstalled
 xfntbig      3650  xfntbig description: no ext
 xfntcyr      3610  xfntcyr description: no ext
 xfntscl      3663  xfntscl description: no ext
 xlib         3661  xlib description: no ext
 xmanpages    3308  X(1) manpage in wrong place?
 xmanpages    4124  typo in XtOpenApplication manpage
 xserver-sv   1292  X locks up
 xserver-sv   3300  xserver-svga configuration
 xslib        3662  xslib description: no ext

Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (44 bugs):
 dpkg          957  dpkg should automatically log everything
 dpkg         1037  dselect user interface (was Re: debian 0.93pl5 installation
 dpkg         1399  dselect error handling not consistent
 dpkg         1480  start-stop-daemon doesn't check process status
 dpkg         1526  man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect
 dpkg         1555  dselect per-screen-half focus request
 dpkg         1642  dpkg recursive package listing doesn't do the right thing
 dpkg         1670  start-stop-daemon is too slow
 dpkg         1797  upgrade/downgrade dependency calculation problem
 dpkg         1818  configure ordering based on Recommends
 dpkg         1921  update-alternatives prompt, dpkg conffile show diff
 dpkg         2531  install-info should use better locking strategy
 dpkg         2536  dpkg inappropriately marks packages as installed
 dpkg         2576  base: selecting [A]ccess with dselect
 dpkg         2603  dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when installing xterm-color
 dpkg         2664  arrow keys fail in dselect not just after search ?
 dpkg         2828  have to install xosview twice to work
 dpkg         2834  desect loses state if it can't find a pre-dependancy
 dpkg         2894  dpkg guidelines info files not recognized
 dpkg         2904  install-info doesn't cope with nonexistent /usr/info/dir fi
 dpkg         2911  Conffiles are deleted too late ? (Re: Bug#2701: seyon: dpkg
 dpkg         2929  dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.
 dpkg         2939  Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction
 dpkg         2973  install-info created 5 Development sections in my /usr/info
 dpkg         3125  bug (and correction) in dpkg-1.1.6 scripts/install-info.pl
 dpkg         3170  again dpkg --root=xxx
 dpkg         3218  install-info adds Miscellaneous section badly
 dpkg         3225  dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems from 1.0.17
 dpkg         3233  dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2nd
 dpkg         3406  dselect unreadable under xterm
 dpkg         3410  some problems/bugs/suggestions with install-info
 dpkg         3704  Weird dselect behavior (bug?)
 dpkg         3765  dpkg and kernel-* package names
 dpkg         3991  dselect has confusing and bizarre interface
 dpkg         4074  problems with 1.1 release
 dpkg         4093  start-stop-daemon fails to kill process
 dpkg         4129  dselect 1.3.0 infelicity
 dpkg         4135  dpkg-source must attent to VERSION_CONTROL
 dpkg         4136  debian-changelog-mode.el broken...
 dpkg         4189  dselect highlights too many lines when TERM=linux
 dpkg         4195  dpkg-source and new tar package don't mix
 dpkg         4200  dpkg-deb -f asks bizarre questions
 dpkg         4202  dpkg chainsaw massacre
 pgp-i        3545  Problems encountered while compiling "pgp" on m68k arch

Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-net.de> (45 bugs):
 amstex       3550  amstex description: no ext
 bibtex       2037  bibtex not searching $TEXINPUTS
 bibtex, kp   1429  several TeX packages Provide themselves
 dviljk       3198  dviljk is still aout! :-(
 dviljk       3202  dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! :-(
 dviljk       3458  dviljk missing prompt for input
 dvipsk       1873  dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize!
 dvipsk       2104  dvips doesn't provide color
 dvipsk       2357  dvipsk generated PS causes `restore error'
 kpathsea     1858  kpathsea package does not install or maintain an ls-R datab
 kpathsea     1865  cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
 kpathsea     2027  tiny bug in web2c debian.rules
 kpathsea     3921  "kpathsea" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxtool      1771  Legal problems with ltxtool
 ltxtool lt   1502  Uniform lists in debian.control
 makeindex    4047  "makeindex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mfbin        1686  psfonts.map can't be found
 mfbin        1934  font scaling problem
 mfbin        2972  MetaFONT linked against X libraries
 mfbin        3077  gray font .mf files missing from MFBIN
 mgetty       3372  mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax script
 mgetty       3896  /sbin/mgetty is not world-readable
 mgetty       3897  mgetty syslogs with priority `emerg'
 mgetty       3898  mgetty has bogus errno in usage message
 mgetty       3899  mgetty doesn't remove logfiles when purged
 mgetty       3900  mgetty doesn't work
 mgetty       4185  "mgetty" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mgetty, ne   3895  file conflicts: mgetty vs netpbm
 psnfss       3135  psnfss has no Architecture field
 texbin       1647  dpkg can present incorrect info for virtual packages.
 texbin       1653  Missing dvicopy(1) man page.
 texbin       1663  TeX comes without configuration script
 texbin       1664  TeX is lacking documentation on the setup
 texbin       1823  texbin postinst failed with error 1, no message
 texbin       2023  latex dumps core on -QUIT
 texbin       2038  tex man page has unexpanded macros in it
 texbin       2621  unstable/texbin install fails
 texlib       2186  national hyphenation patterns
 texpsfnt     2764  texpsfnt: missing source file
 textfm, te   3468  textfm and texlib file conflicts
 xbmbrowser   3050  xbmbrowser man page installed as xbmbrowser.man
 xbmbrowser   4035  "xbmbrowser" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xdvik        2122  xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat convention
 xdvik        2803  xdvi does not handle redraws of includedEPS files correctly
 xearth       4043  "xearth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com> (50 bugs):
 compface     3845  invalid directories in compface package
 less         3336  Problems encountered while compiling "less" for m68k arch
 less         3616  less description: ext extra spaces
 less         3952  Less annoyances
 less         4178  silly problem with less
 patch        3348  Problems encountered while compiling "patch" for m68k arch
 perl         1099  perl bug
 perl         1170  perl fails to make headers first time...
 perl         1201  perl doesn't know about includes
 perl         1247  perl <...> globbing only works if (t)csh installed
 perl         1411  perlconfig misses an opportunity to use xargs
 perl         1856  creating perl header files
 perl         1916  perl: wrong entries in Config.pm
 perl         1972  perl should suggest kernel sources
 perl         2182  perl shouldn't touch /usr/local
 perl         2184  perl's sys/socket.ph causes warning
 perl         2241  Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and LC_* poorly
 perl         2251  Perl coredumps while invoking adduser
 perl         2254  perl doesn't initialize variable to 0 or something
 perl         2405  perl postinst messages re unctrl.h
 perl         2440  sys/socket.ph produces spurious message
 perl         2495  perl requires tcsh (as it is currently configured)
 perl         2501  (no subject)
 perl         2502  configure fails if /vmlinuz is missing
 perl         2589  perl can't load libdb.so.1
 perl         2590  new revision of perl does not include suidperl
 perl         2593  perl tries to install in /usr/local
 perl         2658  Errors during perlconfig
 perl         2691  new perl break suid scripts
 perl         3093  Perl dumps core
 perl         3212  Perl recommends nonexistent packages
 perl         3230  why the hell does perl depend on tcsh???
 perl         3242  perl's dependencies are wrong
 perl         3277  nit: perl setup emits a \n
 perl         3283  /usr/bin/perlconfig should be in /usr/sbin
 perl         3295  perls debian.rules doesn't work
 perl         3296  /bin/perl is not updated
 perl         3423  Problems installing kernel sources and sudo
 perl         3434  pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cut/=pod/=item not handled corr
 perl         3770  dodgy `\n' in perl postinst
 perl         3784  perl does not install on base 1.1
 perl         3785  perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") and "mirror"
 perl         3803  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3814  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3847  Perl & G++
 perl         3874  Archive of perl 5.003-2 is broken
 perl         3908  perl h2ph problem
 perl         4206  Perl `pod' documentation should be in /usr/doc or not insta
 xemacs       2689  (no subject)
 xemacs       2839  Xemacs problems

Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> (56 bugs):
 base         1699  Install/Config quirks: Missing secondary DNS server, NIS se
 base         1742  /dev/tty has wrong permissions
 base         1855  packages adding entries to /etc/group
 base         1885  base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create higher ttys
 base         1954  setting up the network
 base         1955  base discs still aren't creating /var/log/news
 base         2001  Incorrect ownership of audio device files
 base         2070  /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net
 base         2524  problems with base package
 base         2538  audio devices have different group id than audio group
 base         2688  base: wrong group for rft* devices
 base         2741  First booting with Debian 1.1
 base         2840  Conflicting entries in login/group
 base         2889  no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 boot-disk
 base         2895  base -- incorrect passwd entry for 'gnats'
 base         2920  incorrect entry for nobody in recent "base" package
 base         2927  /usr/info/dir in base confuses install-info
 base         2928  nobody has wrong login shell
 base         2978  May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[345]: wtmp /var/log/wtmp No su
 base         3002  majordomo has conflicting group id
 base         3027  updatedb can't run properly
 base         3036  automatic adduser/addgroup in postinst (was Re: fingerd)
 base         3039  MAKEDEV script does not create the random/urandom devices
 base         3070  base copyright string
 base         3149  upgrading base truncates utmp
 base         3183  permissions problems with /var/lib/games
 base         3231  /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not present
 base         3252  base template /usr/info/dir malformed
 base         3314  On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.boot/0serial way too optimisti
 base         3315  Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on 11-6 disks
 base         3387  base leaves /tmp/base.postinst lying around
 base         3409  Could not make boot floppy
 base         3421  /tmp installs wrongly
 base         3493  Teles ISDN card installation buglets
 base         3557  base description: no ext
 base         3786  base includes anonymous ftp account
 base         3805  /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as 'idsn'
 base         3809  /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still around
 base         3902  base disks' network configuration oddities
 base         3905  base disks still install part packages
 base         3983  Wrong entry in /etc/group
 base         3986  inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!
 base         3994  ae won't deinstall
 base         4002  base wipes out utmp & wtmp
 base         4009  /bin/edit causes error after ae removed
 base         4020  Base shouldn't contain /var/run/utmp
 base         4089  problems with rc.local
 base         4131  majordom -- 30 or 31?
 base, ae     3146  1.1 installation: ae doesn't work
 bootdisk     2937  Copyright message function key incorrect
 bootdisk     2956  beta experience
 bootdisk     3185  Lack of NCR53c810 support on boot disk
 bootdisk     3269  bootdisk silently fails-change instalation manual
 bootdisk     3320  Kernel oops - problem with APM BIOS?
 bootdisk     4017  boot disk doesn't recognize NCR scsi 
 bootdisk/r   3279  ne2000 lockups during instalation

(unknown) (100 bugs):
              4153  recent mount/umount vulnerability
              4205  bind does not reinstall if /usr/sbin/bind was removed
 Boot1440.b   4019  Decompression failure on Install Boot Disk
 a2gs         3456  a2gs prompt looks like `please wait' message
 a2gs         3848  "a2gs" requires changes to support multiple arches
 a2ps         1874  a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!
 a2ps         3911  "a2ps" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ax25-kerne   1467  `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-util' should use virtual packag
 ax25-kerne   2762  ax25-kernel-source: missing source file
 ax25-util    2099  slip module stops axattach
 ax25-util    2765  ax25-util: missing source file
 base(?)      4149  /etc/resolv.conf gets bad configuration
 bin86        1281  bin86
 bin86        3568  bin86 description: no ext
 boot         4060  Kernel decompression failure.
 enscript     3483  using args with spaces in genscriptrc
 f2c          3580  f2c description: no ext
 fort77       2919  very bad fort77 installation message
 fort77       3583  fort77 description: no ext
 g77          2852  Bug 2711: g77 does not include info file
 g77          3584  g77 description: ext start indented
 g77          4110  "g77" requires changes for multi-arch support
 j1           3525  j1 hard-linked docs/manpages
 j1           3865  "j1" requires changes to support multiple arches
 kermit       2430  kermit configuration script is hard to read on a monochrome
 libc4         911  libc causes rsh to fail on commands with option arguments
 libc4        1130  Stdlib.h problems when using gcc -O-traditional
 libc4        1211  libc __nis_getgrnam() segfaults for dpkg when using NIS
 libc4        1278  dpkg seg faults with NIS
 libc4        1279  Strangeness involving <bsd/signal.h>
 libc4        1378  weird ELF/a.out difference
 libc4        1685  dpkg-split --msdos not correct
 libc4        1774  <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'
 libc4        2011  very silly messages from rsh
 libc5        3190  rlogin takes far too long when remote says Connection Refus
 libc5        3244  (no subject)
 libc5        3541  rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED!
 libc5        3825  0x80b78b4 either misbehaves or misdocumented
 libc5        3984  NIS writes error message to STDERR
 libc5 (and   2321  libc doesn't use **h_aliases (hostent)
 libc5-dev    2387  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documented
 libc5-dev    2573  sysinfo system call not in libc
 libdb1       2483  libdb1 uses not-yet-completely-supported >= syntax
 libdb1       2504  remove -m486 from Makefile
 libdb1       2896  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libdb1       3240  [libdb]: obsolete bugfix
 libdb1       3335  Problems encountered while compiling "libdb1" for m68k arch
 libdb1       3612  libdb1 description: no ext
 libg++27     2610  support for m68k-linux
 libg++27     3626  libg++27 description: no ext
 libgdbm1     2484  libgdbm1 conflicts with some versions of perl5 and man
 libgdbm1     3321  libgdbm.so version number...
 libgdbm1     3342  Problems encountered while compiling "libgdbm1" for m68k ar
 libjpeg6a    3590  libjpeg6a description: ext start indented
 libjpeg6a-   3608  libjpeg6a-dev description: no ext
 libreadlin   2899  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libreadlin   3345  Problems encountered while compiling "libreadline2" for m68
 ncurses3.0   1314  ncurses fails in silly way on TERM=dumb
 ncurses3.0   1997  ncurses linux terminal definition for kbs
 ncurses3.0   2085  /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned
 ncurses3.0   2291  missing terminfo capabilities for xterm
 ncurses3.0   2806  ncurses man pages internal inconsistencies
 ncurses3.0   2962  dselect arrow keys don't work after a search
 ncurses3.0   3113  dselect provokes ncurses problem when window enlarged
 ncurses3.0   3207  strange screen update choices from ncurses
 ncurses3.0   3422  termcap entry too long error
 ncurses3.0   3801  ncurses3.0 should not be essential
 ncurses3.0   3904  ncurses on mono linux console claims colour capability
 ncurses3.0   3974  problem with arrow keys in dselect (xterm)
 netdiag      4184  "netdiag" requires changes for multi-arch support
 p2c          3713  Problems encountered while compiling "p2c" on m68k arch.
 p2c          3870  "p2c" requires changes to support multiple arches
 postgres95   4112  "postgres95" requires changes for multi-arch support
 spice        3155  spice still on my system
 ssh          4126  ssh & gpm
 svgalib1     2379  svgalib postinst broken
 svgalib1     2455  can't install svgalib1-1.28-5
 svgalib1     2876  svgalib will not work in a setup with serial console
 svgalib1-b   2311  svgalib has undocumented setuid program in /usr/doc/example
 svgalib1-d   3877  /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d is still a.out
 tk40         3827  Tk4.0's bell flashes the display
 tk41         3953  Tk 4.1's bell flashes the display.
 w3-el        3637  w3-el description: no ext
 wg15-local   4172  "wg15-locale" requires changes for multi-arch support
 win32binut   2650  win32binutils has /usr/bin/flex++
 win32binut   3653  win32binutils description: no ext
 win32gcc     3651  win32gcc description: no ext
 win32libs    3649  win32libs description: no ext
 x10          4040  "x10" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xaw3d        3067  broken libXaw3d
 xaw3d        3755  xaw3d shouldn't automatically install as libXaw
 xfishtank    4186  "xfishtank" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xfnt100      3657  xfnt100 description: no ext
 xfnt75       3665  xfnt75 description: no ext
 xpostitplu   4101  xpostitplus loses previous postit notes
 xserver-ma   2039  X server font erosion
 xserver-s3   1796  missing call to ntohs in X server
 xserver-s3   3750  X server inaccessible sometimes
 xserver-s3   4056  mouse cursor in X3 server is cross-eyed
 xserver-s3   4066  strangeness with X3 server

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From: david@elo.ods.com (David Engel)
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Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:51:39 -0500 (CDT)
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Note: I'm copying this to debian-devel to get feedback on my response
to Philippe's question #3.  If you do respond, please include a direct
response to me in addition to the list.  I was inadvertantly dropped
from debian-devel three weeks ago and no amount of trying on my or
Bruce's parts has been able to get me back on the list.

Philippe Troin writes:
> 1) When compiling (make -f debian.rules) Tcl (needed to build tclX, 
> what a shame that you need the tcl/tk source tree), I have errors 
> in tclPosixStr.c about a case having same value (EDEADLOCK and 
> EDEADLK are both defined and have the same value). Fixed by adding 
> an #if EDEADLOCK != EDEADLK.
> Did you recompile it lately ?

I'm aware of the problem, but haven't had time to fix it yet.

> 2) I've tried to 'make test' in both tcl7.5 and tk4.1 source trees, 
> both failed. Shouldn't we report this to the Tcl/Tk maintainers 
> and/or try to fix it ? This works perfectly on other systems (tried 
> Solaris).

What do you mean by failed?  If you mean some individual tests fail,
then that is expected.  I believe all of the Tk failures are due to
non-portable tests.  I have not had time to look into the Tcl
fileevent failures yet, but I suspect they are either due to
non-portable tests also or libc bugs.

> 3) I think I should have tclX be the same (regarding package 
> management) and tcl and tk. ie, I will have tclX74 and tclX75, both 
> incompatible with tclX. tclX74-dev and tcl75-dev being mutually 
> exclusive too... What do you think about it ?

I agree, for now.  One change I'm considering is to give each major
Tcl version it's own include directory (e.g. /usr/include/tcl7.4,
/usr/include/tcl7.5).  This would make it easier to have multiple
development packages installed simultaneously.  The limitation of only
having one installed at a time is quickly becoming a problem because
of the way Tcl/Tk-based packages are tied to a specific version of
Tcl/Tk.  What do you think?

> 4) I plan having a separate tclX7[45]-doc package for the help 
> system (/usr/lib/tclX/7.*/help and /usr/bin/tclhelp). What's your 
> opinion on that one ?

I've considered doing something like this with the section 3 manual
pages for Tcl/Tk.  The reason I hadn't done it yet is that I didn't
want to create yet another package unless I really needed to or
someone else wanted it.

> 5) I haven't had time yet to look after the other platform stuff. 
> Last time you told me to remove any hard-coded "i386" for the 
> debian support. I assume you're talking about the debian.* file,s 
> right ?

Yes.

David
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I've now implemented the shared library scheme as described earlier.

I don't expect to make any further significant changes to the new
source package format and building scheme.  I shall finalise this in a
week unless there are significant complaints.  So: please download
these and look at them and try them out.

Please install dpkg-1.3.6 and read section 2.2 of the programmers'
manual to see what shared library package maintainers need to do.

Packages which just use shared libraries use dpkg-shlibdeps to
generate the dependencies.  See dpkg-source(1) and the hello package
for details.

There is a mechanism involving /etc/dpkg/shlibs.default to cope with
libraries which don't know about the new scheme.  At the moment I've
only put libc5 and ncurses3.0 in here; other libraries can be added
locally, but it would be better to mail me.

Other significant changes here are:
 * I've broken the argument unparsing to match braindamage in the
   latest versions of tar.  If you've had trouble with dpkg-source try
   this version.
 * dpkg-gencontrol has a default output file.

Ian.

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I hadn't realized this arch independence stuff would take so much time 
when I originally agreed to be the maintainer and I still don't see 
the end of the tunnel, so if anyone wants to let me know.

Thanks,

Leland

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Package: inn
Version: 1.4unoff4-1

deimos:~:[2]# dpkg --purge inn
(Reading database ... 20824 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing inn ...
Trying to stop INN..
Removing crontab for news..
Removing files in /var/log/news and /var/run/innd..
dpkg - warning: while removing inn, directory `/var/spool/news/.outgoing' not empty so not removed.
dpkg - warning: while removing inn, directory `/var/spool/news/over.view' not empty so not removed.
dpkg: error processing inn (--purge):
 cannot remove `/var/spool/news': Device or resource busy
** INN news server configuration
chown: /var/log/news/.: No such file or directory
I can't access your /etc/news/inn.conf (No such file or directory) - HELP
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
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I'm not so worried about the dpkg problems as I am the messages which follow.

Thanks.

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From: Dan Stromberg <strombrg@hydra.acs.uci.edu>
> 1) Have you switched up to a 28.8kbps modem yet, or at least a 14.4kbps
> modem?

We may be a bit spoiled here in the U.S.

Some people have to buy their net service from a government-mandated
monopoly, and pay by the packet. 28.8 modems are _illegal_ in some
places because the Post Office (regulator of _all_ communications) has
not approved them. You have to smuggle them in from other countries,
and when you use them, you are bootlegging.

About the funniest part is trying to find a pay phone. Many countries
only have them in post offices. When I visited Australia, there were
blue phones and gold phones, and only the gold ones could make long
distance calls.

	Bruce


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Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> I have the feeling that an awful lot of work is being duplicated here.

But then almost the complete work has already been done.

> All of the work being done to support shadow password files, will have
> to be done over again to support PAM.  Also, IMHO the PAM framework is
> superior, as it supports shadow password files among others (give or
> take maybe a few options particular to the shadow package actually
> used).

What exactly does it offer that shadow doesn't?

Michael

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   From: Michael Meskes <meskes@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
   Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:25:36 +0200 (MET DST)
   [...]
   What exactly does it offer that shadow doesn't?

For general information, see http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/
and for Linux-PAM: http://gluon.physics.ucla.edu/~morgan/pam/

But to answer your question in short: PAM (which stands for pluggable
authentication modules) is an API that encapsulates (hopefully) all
authentication methods.  As a consequence, an authentication client
using PAM does not need to be reengineered any more to be able to use
a new authentication method (e.g kerberos, s/key, id-cards...), but
the new authentication method must be coded once as a PAM module to be
available to all applications.

There are several kinds of modules, that can be transparently chained
together by PAM: e.g. for session logging, for granting/denying access
to a particular service based on the time of the day, tty, host; or to
log every single character the user types for the real paranoid
... you just name it (or implement it and plug it in :-).  Another
example: passwd can be configured via PAM to use some custom local
modules for extra password strength checking .

Currently PAM does support unix password files and shadow and some
other utility modules (and work is going on on s/key and kerberos),
which seems enough functionality to get started.

PAM is also a standard (DCE-RFC 86.0).

Patrick.
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I've just uploaded the first version of the new (almost final) shadow
packages to my ftp site. Please test them as much as possible. They are
under:

ftp://feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/debian.local/binary-i386/shadow-*

I devided shadow into three packages:
1) shadow-passwd which is thought to replace passwd
2) shadow-login which replaces the standard login
3) shadow-su which diverts the GNU su binary.

Comments welcome.

Michael
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Package: xonix
Version: 1.4-3

By default, xonix can't write to its highscore file.

As a remedy, I'd suggest

chgrp games /usr/games/xonix
chmod 2755 /usr/games/xonix
chgrp games /var/lib/games/xonix
chmod 775 /var/lib/games/xonix
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Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> For general information, see http://www.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/
> and for Linux-PAM: http://gluon.physics.ucla.edu/~morgan/pam/


Got it. Thanks.

> But to answer your question in short: PAM (which stands for pluggable
> authentication modules) is an API that encapsulates (hopefully) all
> authentication methods.  As a consequence, an authentication client
> using PAM does not need to be reengineered any more to be able to use
> a new authentication method (e.g kerberos, s/key, id-cards...), but
> the new authentication method must be coded once as a PAM module to be
> available to all applications.
> ...

It seems it does not contain shadow completely, though.

Since the shadow transition is almost completed I wonder what we shoudl do
now.

Michael
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I did a quick scan through the archive and found at least two (well that is
four) packages in an incorrect location. The way I understand it all
packages including a motif binary (statically or dynamically linked) belong
into contrib since there's no way for me (as normal user) to recompile them.
Thus gimp and ddd should be moved. 

Also, shouldn't the netscape and compress-package installer be moved to
contrib, too? I know they are free, but to be of any use you have to get the
some other software that is not free. So in fact they depend on it. Well at
least the netscape installer which has no own file to install.

Michael
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Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> Thinking things over again, and considering that the shadow support
> for Debian is almost finished (as far as I know, only xdm and a few
> small utilities such as vipw have to be adapted for shadow support), I

The actual situation is that we have to make xdm and adduser shadow aware.
That's about it. Some minor changes to the shadow packages may have to be
done, too. BTW we now have shadow vipw/vigr thanks to the work of Miquel.

> would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.  In the mean time, I will try
> to make a few applications PAM-aware, to wet my feet and to gain some
> insight about how simple or complex things are.  After all, it's not a
> black or white thing, but we can PAMify application by application.

Sounds good to me.

Michael

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   Date: Tue, 20 Aug 96 08:19 PDT
   From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
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   From: Patrick Weemeeuw <patrick@kulnet.KULeuven.ac.be>
   > The big question is: is PAM ready for integration in the distribution?

   I agree that it sounds like a better way to do the job. I think the
   interested parties should decide together if they are able to deploy
   it reasonably _soon_. I have started work on the installation floppies
   for 1.2, we are about to change the source format and convert a lot of
   packages, we have architecture changes to merge in, etc., so you probably
   have a month but not much more.

	   Thanks

	   Bruce

Well, I do have some areas of concern, both pro and against
introducing PAM now.

Introducing PAM is certainly not a free lunch: it needs some changes
to rather many components of the distribution [including probably
changes to some unexpected ones such as e.g. init for session
logging--this is still in discussion on the mailing list].  This is
certainly easier to do with a more centralised control as in the
RedHat distribution, than in our distributed development model.  In
this light, a month is on the short side, and it might be easier to
wait and see how RedHat solves the hasles.  On the other hand, we do
not need complete PAM support in 1.2, but might well start with a few
PAMified applications.  However, I think that a commitment of Debian
to PAM in the long term, is important.

My second concern is that introducing the shadow support now might
make a later introduction of PAM more difficult.  Technically,
conversion from a unix password authentication scheme to PAM is
simpler than from unix + shadow to PAM (this might or might not be a
big issue, depending maybe on how compatible the PAM shadow module is
with the Debian shadow package).

Thinking things over again, and considering that the shadow support
for Debian is almost finished (as far as I know, only xdm and a few
small utilities such as vipw have to be adapted for shadow support), I
would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.  In the mean time, I will try
to make a few applications PAM-aware, to wet my feet and to gain some
insight about how simple or complex things are.  After all, it's not a
black or white thing, but we can PAMify application by application.

Patrick


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Yves Arrouye:
> I remember that a long time ago it was said that it was okay to gzip
> manual pages because the manual reader did handle them nicely? 

Our man seems to handle them OK. Since there can be tens of megabytes of
manual pages (I have 18 MB), I think compressing them would be a good idea.

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From: Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl>
> But when you have the right phone, and you know the trick with the
> Follow button you can dial for free (even internationally!).

If you get caught they are less likely to let you visit their country
again :-) . I got a speeding ticket from the darn traffic camera while
I was there, too. They didn't mail it to me until I was back in the
States. I had little choice but to pay it, as I figured they'd stop me
at Immigration next time I visited if I didn't pay up.

	Bruce


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Package: bind
Version: 4.9.3-P1-3

`dig' really belongs in the `dnsutils' package, not the `bind'
package; just because one is not running a local name server does not
imply that one doens't want to use `dig' to look things up.

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Subject: Bug#4218: Problems removing INN
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You (Rob Leslie) wrote:
> Package: inn
> Version: 1.4unoff4-1
> 
> deimos:~:[2]# dpkg --purge inn
> (Reading database ... 20824 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing inn ...
> Trying to stop INN..
> Removing crontab for news..
> Removing files in /var/log/news and /var/run/innd..
> dpkg - warning: while removing inn, directory `/var/spool/news/.outgoing' not empty so not removed.
> dpkg - warning: while removing inn, directory `/var/spool/news/over.view' not empty so not removed.
> dpkg: error processing inn (--purge):
>  cannot remove `/var/spool/news': Device or resource busy

Ehm yes. /var/spool/news shouldn't be in the INN package; your /var/spool/news
is probably on a seperate partition so rmdir /var/spool/news will always fail..
This is a bug in the INN package. I'm still working on it, though rather
slowly (veeeerry slowly, sorry).

> ** INN news server configuration

Yep, dpkg tries do undo the purge so it probably starts the postinst script
again with a special argument which the INN postinst happiliy ignores.

> chown: /var/log/news/.: No such file or directory
> I can't access your /etc/news/inn.conf (No such file or directory) - HELP

Yes, too late.. armageddon :)

> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  inn

No worries, but it _is_ kind of hard to get entirely rid of all traces
of INN on your system.. dpkg will keep thinking some parts are still
installed.

Mike.
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You (Bruce Perens) wrote:
> About the funniest part is trying to find a pay phone. Many countries
> only have them in post offices. When I visited Australia, there were
> blue phones and gold phones, and only the gold ones could make long
> distance calls.

But when you have the right phone, and you know the trick with the
Follow button you can dial for free (even internationally!). An old
backpackers trick :). These are the orange ones you find in pubs
and government buildings.

Mike.
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Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2

When I run Mosaic on a mono X terminal the 3d button borders and so
forth are not highlighted or coloured correctly, making them difficult
to see and use.

Below are two xwd files, one created by Debian's Mosaic 2.7b5-2 and
one by an OSF/1 installation of Mosaic 2.7b4 on a local system here.
Both were displaying on a monochrome X terminal with no X resources
loaded into the server and no Mosaic-related environment variables
except WWW_HOME.

I'd like Debian's Mosaic to produce a display like the OSF/1 2.7b4.

I enclose a copy of the /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Mosaic file from the
OSF/1 installation.

Thanks,
Ian.

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Knews should handle an upgrade more intelligently and not simply overwrite
the (possibly customized) /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Knews
configuration file.

I know this is difficult to do right. A lot of Knews functionality depends
on a working Knews.ad and what is necessary there changes from release to
release. 
Maybe it should look if there already exists one and give the user an
option to install a new one / back up the old one ... like dpkg does.

Listing it as a conffile is not satisfactory though because it is created
from user-input at installtime.

--
Coming again: Best quotes of the net. Today:          | Nils Rennebarth
Kristian Köhntopp <kris@schulung.netuse.de            | Schillerstr. 61 
>>I'd also be interested in the comparison [of Linux] | 37083 Göttingen
>>with a cisco router. I assume a factor of about ten.| ++49-551-71626
>What? faster or slower?                              | http://www.nus.
Cheaper!                                              | de/~nils


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Package: lynx
Version: 2.4-FM-960316-1

See the page
<URL:http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/bad-mailto.html> (a copy of
the page is included below).

If you load this page in lynx and select the `spong' you will enter a
dialogue offering to send mail to `ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk',
and if you accept this it does actually send mail to the address with
the %40 untranslated.

The same problem happens if you try to use the <LINK REV=MADE ...> to
send a comment to the document author (ie, press the `c' key).

According to RFC1738 URL's may be encoded in this way, and in fact it
advises that they must be so encoded if they contain certain
characters.

For example, the quote character " must be quoted if it appears in a
local-part of an email address to stop it from being interpreted as
the end of the URL's delimiter in the surrounding hypertext.

Ian.

<html><head>
<link rev=made href="mailto:ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk">
<title>test page</title>
</head><body>

<h1>testing 1 2 3</h1>
<A href="mailto:ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk">spong</A>

</body></html>


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Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2

See the page
<URL:http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/nested-markup.html> (a copy
of the page and an xwd of the output produced by 2.7b5 on my mono
display is included below).

As you can see:

* <strong> doesn't work correctly inside <var> - it overrides the
italics produced by <var>.

* <var> inside a <code> fails to go back to the ordinary proportional
font from the fixed one produced by <code>.

* <strong> and headings like <h1> fails to work properly with <code>
and <var> elements inside them - the <code> and <var> go back to
ordinary sized not-bold text.

* The typographic markups <i> and <tt> work correctly, as does <em>
inside <code>.

Ian.

<html><head>
<link rev=made href="mailto:Ian%20Jackson%20%3cijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk%3e">
<title>test page</title>
</head><body>
<h1>testing 1 2 3</h1>
<A href="mailto:Ian%20Jackson%20%3cijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk%3e">spong</A>
<h1>testing spong</h1>
The <var>var <strong>strong-var</strong> var</var>.<br>
Should be: times italic, times italic bold
<p>
The <code>code <var>var-code</var> code</code>.<br>
Should be: courier, times italic
<p>
The <code>code <em>em-code</em> code</code>.<br>
Should be: courier, courier italic
<p>
The <strong>strong <code>code-strong</code> strong</strong>.<br>
Should be: times bold, courier bold
<p>
The <strong>strong <var>var-strong</var> strong</strong>.<br>
Should be: times bold, times italic bold
<p>
The <tt>tt <i>i-tt</i> tt</tt>.<br>
Should be: courier, courier italic
<p>
The <i>i <tt>tt-i</tt> i</i>.<br>
Should be: times italic, courier italic

<h1>The <code>code</code> and <var>var</var> in the heading</h1>

Should be: large times bold, large courier bold, large times italic bold.

</body></html>

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Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2

See the page
<URL:http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/bad-mailto.html> (a copy of
the page is included below).

If you load this page in Mosaic and click on the `spong' URL you will
see a dialogue box offering to send mail to
`ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk', and if you accept this it does
actually send mail to the address with the %40 untranslated.

According to RFC1738 URL's may be encoded in this way, and in fact it
advises that they must be so encoded if they contain certain
characters.

For example, the quote character " must be quoted if it appears in a
local-part of an email address to stop it from being interpreted as
the end of the URL's delimiter in the surrounding hypertext.

Ian.

<html><head>
<link rev=made href="mailto:ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk">
<title>test page</title>
</head><body>

<h1>testing 1 2 3</h1>
<A href="mailto:ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk">spong</A>

</body></html>


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Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-8

When I installed this version of ghostview, it issued the message

   cat: /etc/papersize: no such file or directory

but didn't return a non-zero exit status to dpkg, which therefore
assumed that the installation had succeeded.

This is two bugs.  Firstly it should behave sensibly in the absence of
/etc/papersize (or depend on a package which is known to provide it,
though I think this is not as good an option).  Secondly the postinst
script ignores any errors that occur; it should include `set -e' so
that errors are never ignored.

-- 
Richard Kettlewell  richard@greenend.org.uk  richard@elmail.co.uk
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Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> I would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.
> In the mean time, I will try to make a few applications PAM-aware,
> to wet my feet and to gain some insight about how simple or complex
> things are. After all, it's not a  black or white thing, but we can
> PAMify application by application.

Good decision. If I understand you correctly, we can set PAM to
authenticate via shadow password only and deploy it in a piece-wise
fashion. Then, once we have it deployed fully, we can start to introduce
additional methods of validation.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: tin
Version: 1.3beta.950824-12

The default value of TIN_NOVROOTDIR is /var/lib/news. The Debian INN uses
/var/lib/news/over.view to store the overview database. 

The result of this problem is two overview databases one in /var/lib/news and one in
/var/lib/news/over.view. Plus there is a slow response since tin has to generate those
indexes that are already there.

I fixed it by setting Version: 1.3beta.950824-12
TIN_NOVROOTDIR in /etc/profile


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In order to solve some tricky problems to do with
architecture-independent files being produced and uploaded as a result
of per-architecture porting builds, I'm splitting the `binary' target
into two:

binary-arch will build the architecture dependent binary packages and
files.  For a straightforward architecture-dependent package this is
usually all the work.

binary-indep will build architecture-independent binary packages and
files.  For a completely architecture-independent package this is all
the work.

binary will remain, and simply do one and then the other.

Ian.


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Further to this discussion, I'm going to write into the policy manual
that manpages should be installed compressed using gzip -9.

Ian.


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Since we need closure on this I'm mandating this change in the new
policy manual and source package format.

I'll also mandate that the debian/changelog file be included, in
/usr/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz, or changelog.gz for a package
whose upstream and Debian maintainers are the same.

Ian.


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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"):
> [Ian asked:]
> > (Is texi2html any good?)
> 
> http://www.cygnus.com/ (and I'm sure other places) has texi2html'ed
> versions of gnu compiler-related tools, if you want a quick look at
> them. 

Thanks.  They do look reasonable.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
...
> However, there are several people who post to the lists, but don't read
> them, who ask to be responded to directly. Maybe we should just require
> that these people suffer reading the lists like the rest of us?

Yes.  It is rude to post to a mailing list or newsgroup that you don't
read (except certain closed lists that operate more like aliases, eg
security@debian.org which forwards to debian-private or
submit@bugs.debian.org).

Ian.


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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"):
> if we standardize the names for the alternate formats, can we also
> have, for each format foo, a virtual foo-viewer package, and include
> it in the dependencies?  (That will, as a side effect, make it easier
> to determine which formats are supported in a given package...)

It looks like we don't have a consensus or indeed a technical basis
for a decision on documentation formats, so we'll keep the current
ad-hoc arrangements for the moment.

When we go for a more formalised scheme this sounds like a good idea.

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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
...
> > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
> > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
> > kind of `mistake' our dependency scheme should try to address.
> 
> It was my understanding that this was EXACTLY what dependancies were
> designed for; Protecting the installer from removing functionality that
> other packages need.

Surely this is only useful if this is a mistake the user will be
likely to make, and then not know how to undo ?

> > The only possible consequences of creating an `editor' virtual package
> > and having things depend on it are:
> >  * Needless updates to packages to add dependencies and Provides
> 
> This is not a technical argument. It is an economic one, and should not be
> listed as a primary point. (all change takes work) Your assertion that it
> is needless is not yet backed up by technical arguments. In addition, the
> modification of other editor packages to encorporate this new VPN are not
> on any critical path, so they can happen as need arrises.

I can't prove that it's needless.  You're shifting the burden of
proof.  It's up to you to show that it's needed.

> >  * Some person installs their own favourite editor in /usr/local
> >    and wants to remove all ours but can't.
> 
> This is true for any package that has others that depend on it. If I want
> to put a qmail of my own into /usr/local, I will still need to keep some
> Debian mail-delivery-agent installed to satisfy other packages dependance
> on an MDA. A way to tell dpkg about "non-package provides" would fix this
> problem in general, but I don't necessarily think that it is needed, or
> even desirable.

The difference is that an editor is such a fundamental and
striaghtforward thing that it will be obvious to the user what they're
doing without the dependency scheme having to tell them.

You're using a sledgehammer to crack a probably-nonexistent nut.

Ian.


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Michael Alan Dorman writes ("Re: New package standards - LAST CALL "):
> In message <m0up1QD-0004OEC@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>, Ian Jackson writes:
> >Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or
> >issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as
> >described in the draft dpkg programmers' manual, the draft Debian
> >policy manual and as implemented by dpkg 1.3.x, will become official.
> 
> I hate to even ask this, since if we want to make this change for the
> next release, but can we have just a bit more time?
> 
> I have been singularly busy of late, and have only recently gotten to
> the point of being able to read the new docs you put up, and while
> everything seems sensible "on paper", I worry that it we don't have
> people actually try it out, there's going to be some unexpected
> problems.

I've tried very hard to leave hooks all over the place, especially in
the parts where the new scheme is more automatic than the old.

It won't be a disaster if we don't get everything converted.

> > * Automation of the generation of .changes files from information in
> >   a parseable changelog and elsewhere.
> 
> I have installed the changelog macros, and find they work well.

Thanks.

> Finally, though you say the documents are just cut-n-paste from other
> stuff, they seem to do a better job of documenting some of the
> "conventions" that we've adopted over the last several months, WRT
> shared libraryies and the rest.

Good.

> And if you're creating them from your linuxdoc-sgml hack, I'm quite
> interested that you make it available for others use.  It seems much
> cleaner than the original.  Or maybe that's just a function of a
> better conversion tool.

:-).  The better conversion tool helps.  But having a DTD that only
describes things that are actually implemented helps too.

Ian.


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Erick Branderhorst writes ("$(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
> Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
> and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?  
> 
> If so can it specified in the guidelines.
> If not what should we use?

$(ARCH)-debian-linux, but $(ARCH) should usually be 486,
shouldn't it ?

I don't know what the $(ARCH) parameter changes with GNU software,
when you vary it between 386, 486, 586, &c.

When this is settled please remind me to mention this in the policy
manual.

Ian.


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Daniel Lynes writes ("Non-existent .deb's"):
> Just a thought, but I was wondering if perhaps the dselect program
> could be modified to allow for it to not allow you to be able to select
> .deb archives that are non-existent?  I've noticed that for the .deb
> archives that I haven't downloaded, the only way I know that they're
> not there, is that their names don't show up during execution of the
> installation script.
> 
> Perhaps you could have a warning in the dselect windowed interface that
> gives you an error if you try to install a non-existent package?

If you delete the `Packages' files, or fail to download them, dselect
will offer to scan the .deb files that are actually on your disk.

> Also, in the matter of gs(?), the dselect program does not state that
> X11-R6 is required to be installed; it states that svgalib can also be
> used.  However, in the list of dependencies (brought up by the 'i'nfo
> command, it states that X11-R6 _IS_ required.)  When installing it, it
> fails, giving the reason that the Xlib library is not installed.  So,
> can you use it without Xlib, and instead use svgalib?  i.e.  Do I need
> to do a dpkg-deb, and force it to install, ignoring dependencies?

No, that won't work.  You can use dpkg --force-depends --install to
see it if you don't believe me.  Install xlib.

Ian.


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Bruce, if you feel it is appropriate, I'd like you to use your magic
fiat power to end the discussion about lyx, contrib, and so forth, by
endorsing the appropriate part of the new policy manual.  I've
attached a copy below.

According to that part lyx, all the Motif packages and the compress
installer need to go in contrib because of their dependency (at build-
or run-time) on non-free software.

Alternatively, if noone objects to this message proposing a sensible
different _policy_ rather than that we should make an exception I'll
take it that what I've written there is agreed by the project.

Ian.

2. Package copyright
--------------------

     Please study the copyright of your submission *carefully* and
     understand it before proceeding. If you have doubts or questions,
     please ask.

     The aims of the policy detailed below are: 
        * That any user be able to rebuild any package in the official
          Debian distribution from the original source plus our patches.
        * That we make available in our packaging formats as much software
          as we can.
        * That it be easy for people to make CDROMs of our distribution
          without violating copyrights.

     All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
     modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
     be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
     their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
     Debian distribution.

     Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) do
     not allow distribution and copying for profit, without restriction on
     the amount charged, or where distribution is restricted according to
     the medium used, or where the distributor must ask any kind of special
     permission of the authors, or with other onerous conditions, may only
     be placed in the semi-supported non-free section of the Debian FTP
     archives. This is important so that CDROM manufacturers can distribute
     Debian without having to check the copyright of each package
     individually, simply by leaving out the contents of the non-free area;
     CDROM distributors are encouraged, though, to check the copyrights on
     programs in non-free individually and include as many as they can.

     Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) allow
     only distribution of compiled binaries (and thus of which only
     binaries are available), or where the source code which may be
     distributed is not the complete source code required to compile the
     program (ie, the program cannot be compiled using only packages in the
     main Debian distribution), or which depend for their use on non-free
     or contrib packages, or allow free use only for a trial period
     (shareware), or are demonstration programs lacking vital functionality
     (crippleware), or are only installer-packages which require the user
     to supply a separate file to be installed, or which fail to meet some
     other policy requirements, may only be placed in the semi-supported
     contrib section of the Debian FTP archives (unless they need to be in
     non-free - see above).

     Programs whose authors encourage the user to make donations are fine
     for the main distribution, provided that the authors do not claim that
     not donating is immoral, unethical, illegal or something similar;
     otherwise they must go in contrib (or non-free, if even distribution
     is restricted by such statements).

     Packages whose copyright permission notices (or patent problems) do
     not allow redistribution even of only binaries, and where no special
     permission has been obtained, cannot placed on the Debian FTP site and
     its mirrors at all.

     Note that under international copyright law[1] *no* distribution or
     modification of a work is allowed without an explicit notice saying
     so. Therefore a program without a copyright notice *is* copyrighted
     and you may not do anything to it without risking being sued! Likewise
     if a program has a copyright notice but no statement saying what is
     permitted then nothing is permitted.

     [1]  This applies in the United States, too.

     Many authors are unaware of the problems that restrictive copyrights
     (or lack of copyright notices) can cause for the users of their
     supposedly-free software. It is often worthwhile contacting such
     authors diplomatically to ask them to modify their terms generally, or
     specially for Debian. However, this is a politically difficult thing
     to do and you should ask for advice on debian-devel first.

     When in doubt, send mail to <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>. Be
     prepared to provide us with the copyright statement. Software covered
     by the GPL, public domain software and BSD-like copyrights are safe;
     be wary of the phrases `commercial use prohibited' and `distribution
     restricted'.

     Every package submission *must* be accompanied by verbatim copy of its
     copyright (with the exceptions of public domain packages and those
     covered by the UCB BSD licence or the GNU GPL or LGPL; in these cases
     simply indicate which is appropriate). This information must be
     included in a file installed by the binary package - see subsection
     3.2.6, ``/usr/doc/<package>/copyright''. 

--
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joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> >
> > >Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
> > >attribute of a machine?
> 
> Well, it could be argued that Yvess libppaper could look at
> the current $PRINTER setting, and select the correct papersize
> depending on the /etc/papersize.printer file or something. But
> at the moment not very many programmes use libpaper or /etc/papersize,
> so it's better to have them at least get to recognise a global
> /etc/papersize than nothing.

Yup, sometimes something is better than nothing.  Then again, sometimes
"something part way" makes it harder to get to "all the way" too.

If you make it queue-specific, it might be best to add it into
/etc/printcap (as opposed to /etc/papersize.queuename).  There is
precedent for this (with at least one printer I've set up), and it's
discussed in at least one popular book about system administration (by
Evi Nemeth, under the name "printcap extensions").  BTW, this book lies
thru it's teeth about Solaris 2.x, 

Parsing /etc/printcap is a simple matter - 20 lines of /bin/sh, or
pgetent in the lpd source.

An external library, such as libpaper.*, is precisely the right place to
put such a thing.  AS long as it has a good'n'general interface, the
long-term nice-scenario get here eventually.

> > Paper size effect more that just printers.  Previewers and tex tools
> > come to mind, there may be others...
> >
> > All I know is right now I've got to tweak quite a few things on a
> > standard debian 1.1 system so that dvips, xdvi, genscript, and a few
> > other programs work well and have the same idea of a default paper
> > size.
> 
> Well, after you've done the tweaking, maybe it's worth the little
> extra efford of mailing the patches to the maintainer/bug-system
> and wait to see them included in the next release?
> If you don't want to do that, could you send your patches to me,
> so that try to handle it?


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I wrote:
> Michael Alan Dorman writes ("New source format and related issues..."):
> ...
> > dpkg-source: building hello in hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz
> > tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
> > Try `tar --help' for more information.
> > dpkg-source: failure: tar gave error exit status 2
...
> Well, all I can say is that it doesn't do this for me.

Can you tell me whether 1.3.6 fixes it ?  This looks like it might be
the argument parsing bug in tar that Bruce reported.  1.3.6 has a
workaround.

Ian.


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Bruce Perens writes ("Bug#4129: dselect 1.3.0 infelicity"):
> If I position the selection bar on "All Brokenly Installed Packages" and press
> the "-" key, _all_ packages are de-selected, not just the brokenly installed
> ones. This is counter-intuitive.

`counter-intuitive' ?!  You're a master of understatement.
It's bloody awful.  My apologies.

I've fixed this in my working source tree for 1.3.7.

I'm going to release a 1.2.14 with it.

Ian.


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  Yves> I remember that a long time ago it was said that it was okay to gzip
  Yves> manual pages because the manual reader did handle them nicely?

  Lars>  Our man seems to handle them OK. Since there can be tens of
  Lars> megabytes of manual pages (I have 18 MB), I think compressing them
  Lars> would be a good idea.

We already compress them. I seem to have 108 compressed man pages, coming
from 14 of the 210 packages I have installed.

Could this be added to the guidelines as either a policy, or at least an
option? 


edd@miles:~> find /usr/man -name \*.gz | wc -l
    108    

edd@miles:~> grep -l -e "/usr/man.*gz" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list | wc -l
     14    

edd@miles:~> ls -1 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list | wc -l
    210     

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Package: sysvinit
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The file /etc/init.d/skeleton should use `set -e' as this is good
practice and it is an example script.

Ian.


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Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.64-1

The file /etc/init.d/network is a dpkg-handled conffile, despite
containing important site-specific configuration information which is
set up by the base disks.

Files manipulated by installation scripts should not be dpkg-handled
conffiles.

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Package: sysklogd
Version: 1.3-10

Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd 1.3-0#10: restart.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd 1.3-0#10: restart.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd: select: Bad file number
Aug 21 14:00:17 beagle last message repeated 103329 times
Aug 21 14:01:17 beagle last message repeated 244779 times
Aug 21 14:02:17 beagle last message repeated 245329 times

and so on...

	Thanks

	Bruce


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David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it"):
> > ...
> > > Because they're designed to work together.  That's why the FSF
> > > includes cpp with gcc instead of packaging it separately.  
> > 
> > This doesn't much sense to me, at least not without more detail.
> > 
> > Why do gcc and cpp need to know each other's particular versions ?
> 
> cpp, cc1, cc1plus, etc., together comprise what we loosely call gcc.
> They work together as a closely matched set, and consequently, need to
> stay exactly in sync in much the same way that dpkg and dselect need
> to stay exactly in sync.

I'm sorry to say that I still don't understand.  You haven't, as far
as I can see, actually explained what complicated dependencies cpp and
cc1 and the compiler driver gcc have on each other - you've just
restated the claim that they have such complicated dependencies.

For example, if I were asked whether one version of dpkg could work
with a different version of dselect I'd say: mostly yes, but sometimes
I change the format of some files in /var/lib/dpkg or occasionally I
introduce a new option to dpkg for dselect to use and then you would
need to upgrade together.

Can you give me an answer like that for cpp/gcc/cc1/cc1plus &c ?

As far as I can tell the hardest thing would be getting the right
version numbers into the predefined macros __GCC__ or whatever they
are, and this doesn't seem hard to solve.

After all, the input and output formats of cpp are defined by the fact
that it has to be a C preprocessor accepting and producing valid C.
There seems not much scope in the output from cpp for making it tied
to a particular cc1 version.

In any case, even if this is true it would probably be better to have
the two packages depend on exact versions of each other.

> > There are lots of other things that are designed to work together
> > where a bit of version slippage doesn't matter.
> 
> This isn't one of those cases.
> 
> I making gcc and cpp conflict with and replace each other in version
> 2.7.2.1.  This should make it easier for users to switch between them.
> Until I hear a better suggestion that doesn't involve duplicating
> files, or keeping two packages exactly in sync, I'm going to leave it
> this way.

Please do _not_ make either of these packages Replace the other.

This is not what Replaces is for, and in the future dselect will take
enough notice of Replaces that this will cause confusion in it and
probably in the user.

I'm going to reopen this bug for at least this last reason.

Ian.


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Damn, it looks like my comment
 Before anyone changes anything, please read the appropriate part of
 the new policy manual.
went unheeded.  I see that the change that Daniel Quinlan requested
has been made.  It's a shame that I didn't get around to writing this
more detailed response to the situation sooner.

Daniel Quinlan writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"):
...
> Michael Meskes <meskes@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> writes:
> > I agree that the installation is not correct, but I doubt mode 4755
> > is a solution. I for one don't like the idea that everyone is able
> > to access my floppy drive. Since the Debian standard installation
> > for floppy devices is mode 660 with owner root and group floppy I
> > propose to use the same owner/group combination for fdmount.
> >
> > Any comments before I create a new version?

There is nothing wrong with having an executable mode 4754 setuid
root, owned by some particular group.  This is the right way to solve
this problem.

> Use geteuid(2) and/or use a configuration file that says who has
> access.  Using permissions alone to dictate who has access to
> *running* the binary is bad, IMHO, and I think the Debian package
> guidelines agree (unless they've been changed).  

The guidelines were ambiguous on this subject.  The new policy manual
is not.  The relevant section, which I wrote before this came up BTW,
says that the access control should be done in the way that it was (I
presume) being done here before.

Compiling names of groups or even worse group ids into binaries is a
bad idea.

>   Even worse, it's a
> `4750' binary in /bin -- so users are getting "permission denied"
> errors for something in their path.

There is nothing wrong with users getting a `permission denied'
message when they try to do something they are not permitted to,
surely ?

I'm going to reopen this bug report.  Sorry, Michael Meskes (but you
should have heeded my warning).

Sigh,
Ian.


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Package: manpages
Version: 1.11-4

According to `man 2 acct':

    SEE ALSO
	   acct(5)

But:

    richard@sfere:richard$ man 5 acct
    No manual entry for acct in section 5
    richard@sfere:richard$ 

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> Further to this discussion, I'm going to write into the policy manual
> that manpages should be installed compressed using gzip -9.

Good. I said it was OK to start doing it a while back, but I never said
_everyone_ should do it, and no doubt I should have said that some time ago.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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>      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
>      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
>      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
>      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
>      Debian distribution.

This can't be done with nearly all (la)tex related style files.  When one
wants to change a (la)tex style an other named copy can be used but the
original may not be touched.  Do we really want to ditch (la)tex?

Erick


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If anyone out there has pppd working with slirp, I would surely
appreciate getting a copy of their chat and options file (remember to
edit our the password!).  

I've been trying on and off for weeks now, spending 15 minutes trying
to figure out why pppd dials, seems to connect, and then hangs up (no
debugging info shows up in messages, daemon, or debug...).  I've
decided to give up and ask for help.  Anyone?


Jim


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> Erick Branderhorst writes ("$(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
>> Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
>> and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?  
>> 
>> If so can it specified in the guidelines.
>> If not what should we use?
> 
> $(ARCH)-debian-linux, but $(ARCH) should usually be 486,
> shouldn't it ?
> 
> I don't know what the $(ARCH) parameter changes with GNU software,
> when you vary it between 386, 486, 586, &c.

The GNU configure scripts usually match on i[3456]86-*-*) for
architecture support, so that's not a problem.

I usually do something like:

a = $(shell dpkg --print-architecture)

ifeq (i386,$(a))
arch = i486-debian-linux
else
arch = $(a)-debian-linux

build: config.status
	make
       
config.status:
	./configure --prefix=/usr $(arch)


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  Richard> Package: manpages
  Richard> Version: 1.11-4
...
  Richard> No manual entry for acct in section 5

I wrote a realy minimial acct(5) for the acct package which basically refers
back to acct(2), see below.

As acct.h is in the kernel source, and hence in libc5-dev, this acct.5 (or
an improved version) chould move to manpages.


.TH ACCT 5 "1995 October 31" "Debian/GNU Linux"
.SH NAME
acct \- execution accounting file
.SH SYNOPSIS
.B #include <sys/acct.h>
.SH DESCRIPTION
The kernel maintains an accounting information structure for all
processes. If a process terminates, and accounting is enabled, the kernel
calls the
.BR acct (2)
function to prepare, and then append, a record for this process
to the accounting file. The accounting structure
.B "struct acct"
is described in the file
.IR /usr/src/linux/include/acct.h .
.SH SEE ALSO
.BR acct (2),
.BR sa (1).









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> Package: bind
> Version: 4.9.3-P1-3
> 
> `dig' really belongs in the `dnsutils' package, not the `bind'
> package; just because one is not running a local name server does not
> imply that one doens't want to use `dig' to look things up.
> 

May I suggest that the "nslookup" in the dnsutils package is replaced
by the real one. The nslookup in dnsutils is now a shell script wrapper
around "host" and I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT

I guess I've made my point haven't I :)

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> Package: tin
> Version: 1.3beta.950824-12
> 
> The default value of TIN_NOVROOTDIR is /var/lib/news. The Debian INN uses
> /var/lib/news/over.view to store the overview database. 
> 
> The result of this problem is two overview databases one in /var/lib/news and one in
> /var/lib/news/over.view. Plus there is a slow response since tin has to generate those
> indexes that are already there.
> 
> I fixed it by setting Version: 1.3beta.950824-12
> TIN_NOVROOTDIR in /etc/profile

You mean /var/spool/news and /var/spool/news/over.view
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   Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:59 PDT
   From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
   Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Debian Development)

   Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
   > I would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.
   > In the mean time, I will try to make a few applications PAM-aware,
   > to wet my feet and to gain some insight about how simple or complex
   > things are. After all, it's not a  black or white thing, but we can
   > PAMify application by application.

   Good decision. If I understand you correctly, we can set PAM to
   authenticate via shadow password only and deploy it in a piece-wise
   fashion. Then, once we have it deployed fully, we can start to introduce
   additional methods of validation.

	   Thanks

	   Bruce

Even better yet: as soon as any application has been adapted to PAM it
can use all available PAM modules immediately (as configured by the
system administrator per application), independently of the status of
other authentication clients.  I also hope that the support for shadow
passwords is compatible with the current shadow package: that would
avoid most transition problems.

Patrick.


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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:01:47 -0400 I wrote:

< re pppd and slirp

I must have been really tired when I sent this -- I don't know why I
wrote debian-devel in the To: list.  Well, nobody responded but I
figured it out anyway.  It seems as though problem was likely to come
partly from the kernel not having a proper System.map (and killing
syslog), and partly from expecting the kernel daemon to load slhc
properly.  Once set up modules to load slhc and pppd in the order
specified in the README, and fixed the map, I was able to get
debugging info and have ppp work.


Thanks,

Jim


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Package: bison
Version: A2.6-12

The following input file (which contains errors, I know :-) causes
bison to dump core.

I have no idea wether this is a libc or a bison error.  Gdb tells me
the following:

$ gdb /usr/bin/bison core
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
 under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
(no debugging symbols found)...
Core was generated by `bison crash.y'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.5.2.18...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
#0  0x4003c567 in malloc ()

Here's the input file (called crash.y):

%{
#include <time.h>


#define YYDEBUG 1

time_t currtime;
struct tm currtm;
struct tm exectm;

%}

%union {
	struct tm	tmstruct;
	time_t		timet;
	int	  	intval;
}

%token INT
%token NOW
%token TIMEZONE_NAME
%token AM PM
%token NOON MIDNIGHT TEATIME
%token SUN MON TUE WED THU FRI SAT
%token TODAY TOMORROW
%token NEXT
%token MINUTE HOUR DAY WEEK MONTH YEAR
%token JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
%token WORD

%type <intval> inc_period

%start timespec
%%
timespec        : time
                | time date
                | time increment
                | time date increment
		| time decrement
		| time date decrement
                | nowspec
                ;

nowspec         : now
                | now increment
		| now decrement
                ;

now:		: NOW
		;

time            : hr24clock_hr_min
                | hr24clock_hr_min timezone_name
                | hr24clock_hour time_sep minute
                | hr24clock_hour time_sep minute timezone_name
                | hr24clock_hour am_pm
                | hr24clock_hour am_pm timezone_name
                | hr24clock_hour time_sep minute am_pm
                | hr24clock_hour time_sep minute am_pm timezone_name
                | NOON
                | MIDNIGHT
		| TEATIME

                ;

date            : month_name day_number
                | month_name day_number ',' year_number
                | day_of_week
                | TODAY
                | TOMORROW
                ;

increment       : '+' inc_number inc_period
		    {
			switch($3) {
			case MINUTE:
			    exectm.tm_min
			    break;
			default:
			    yyerror("Internal parser error");
			    YYERROR;
			}
		    }
                | NEXT inc_period
                ;

decrement	: '-' inc_number inc_period
		;

inc_period      : MINUTE { $$ = MINUTE ; }
                | HOUR	 { $$ = HOUR ; }
                | DAY	 { $$ = DAY ; }
                | WEEK   { $$ = WEEK ; }
                | MONTH  { $$ = MONTH ; }
                | YEAR   { $$ = YEAR ; }
                ;

hr24clock_hr_min: INT
		;

timezone_name	: TIMEZONE_NAME
		;

hr24clock_hour	: INT
		;

minute		: INT
		;

am_pm		: AM
		| PM
		;


month_name	: JAN
		| FEB
		| MAR
		| APR
		| MAY
		| JUN
		| JUL
		| AUG
		| SEP
		| OCT
		| NOV
		| DEC
		;

day_number	: INT
		;

year_number	: INT
		;


day_of_week	: SUN
		| MON
		| TUE
		| WED
		| THU
		| FRI
		| SAT
		;

inc_number	: INT
		;

time_sep	: ':'
		| '\''
		| '.'
		| 'h'
		| ','
		;

%%

#include "mydate.h"

time_t parsetime(int, char **);

int
main(int argc, char **argv)
{
#ifdef YYDEBUG
	yydebug = 1;
#endif
	currtime = time(NULL);
	currtm = *localtime(&currtime);
	yyparse();
}

int yyerror(char *s)
{
    fprintf(stderr,"%s. Last token seen: %s\n",s, last_token);
    return 0;
}


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Package: kernel-package
Version: 2.03

The man page for make-kpkg has a few typos, some of which refer to file
names and might therefore cause confusion.  A diff file is attached.

Susan Kleinmann


*** make-kpkg.8	Thu Aug 22 10:40:19 1996
--- make-kpkg.8.rev	Thu Aug 22 10:56:23 1996
***************
*** 28,34 ****
  file using PGP.
  This option will override the builtin default and the site wide customizations
  stored in the file 
! .B /etc/kernal-package.conf.
  This option is only relevant to the
  .B dist
  target, since that is the only target that uses 
--- 28,34 ----
  file using PGP.
  This option will override the builtin default and the site wide customizations
  stored in the file 
! .B /etc/kernel-package.conf.
  This option is only relevant to the
  .B dist
  target, since that is the only target that uses 
***************
*** 128,138 ****
  If there is no 
  .I .config
  file in the kernel source directory, a default configuration is provided
! similair to the one used to create the 
  .B Debian
  boot\-floppies.  The package produced updates the 
  .I /boot/psdatabase
! file at install time, it also update symbolic links in the root directory
  to point to the new kernel image in
  .I /boot.
  It also offers to run the 
--- 128,138 ----
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  .I .config
  file in the kernel source directory, a default configuration is provided
! similar to the one used to create the 
  .B Debian
  boot\-floppies.  The package produced updates the 
  .I /boot/psdatabase
! file at install time, it also updates symbolic links in the root directory
  to point to the new kernel image in
  .I /boot.
  It also offers to run the 
***************
*** 186,202 ****
  file run by
  .B make\-kpkg
  also looks for site\-wide defaults in the file 
! .I /etc/kernel-packge.conf.
  The default configuration allows there to be a site wide override for
  the full name and email address of the person responsible for maintaining 
  the kernel packages on the site, but the 
! .I /etc/kernel-packge.conf
  file is actually a 
  Makefile
  snippet, and any legal make directives may be included in there. 
  .B Note:
  Caution is urged with this file, since you can totally change the way that the 
! make is run by suitable editing this file.
  .SH "SEE ALSO"
  .BR dchanges (1),
  .BR make (1),
--- 186,202 ----
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  .B make\-kpkg
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! .I /etc/kernel-package.conf.
  The default configuration allows there to be a site wide override for
  the full name and email address of the person responsible for maintaining 
  the kernel packages on the site, but the 
! .I /etc/kernel-package.conf
  file is actually a 
  Makefile
  snippet, and any legal make directives may be included in there. 
  .B Note:
  Caution is urged with this file, since you can totally change the way that the 
! make is run by suitably editing this file.
  .SH "SEE ALSO"
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Version: 3.1.2-9

The startx script does not initialize the X Magic Cookies when
X is started up.  This can be a significant security hole.

I would suggest adding a line like

xauth add :0 . `dd if=/dev/urandom count=1 bs=16 | md5sum`

to startx (ok, so md5sum is merely the fastest way to get
a correctly formatted string - possibly od can be persuaded with
the right options, or somebody can write a Perl script).
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On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> ...
> > > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
> > > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
> > > kind of `mistake' our dependency scheme should try to address.
> > 
> > It was my understanding that this was EXACTLY what dependancies were
> > designed for; Protecting the installer from removing functionality that
> > other packages need.
> 
> Surely this is only useful if this is a mistake the user will be
> likely to make, and then not know how to undo ?
> 
> > > The only possible consequences of creating an `editor' virtual package
> > > and having things depend on it are:
> > >  * Needless updates to packages to add dependencies and Provides
> > 
> > This is not a technical argument. It is an economic one, and should not be
> > listed as a primary point. (all change takes work) Your assertion that it
> > is needless is not yet backed up by technical arguments. In addition, the
> > modification of other editor packages to encorporate this new VPN are not
> > on any critical path, so they can happen as need arrises.
> 
> I can't prove that it's needless.  You're shifting the burden of
> proof.  It's up to you to show that it's needed.

The burden I am trying to shift onto your shoulders is for you to have
read the complete thread of this discussion. It is not clear that you have
done so. You declared the needlessness but gave no explanation of why this
was so.
The rest of us, as a group, have discussed this, at some length, and come
to the conclusion that the editor virtual package name was a viable
solution. As a late arrival to this discussion it is your responsibility
to have, at least, read the complete discussion, and speak to the points
raised and settled there. Blanket assertions without supporting arguments
are neither constructive, nor informative.

> 
> > >  * Some person installs their own favourite editor in /usr/local
> > >    and wants to remove all ours but can't.
> > 
> > This is true for any package that has others that depend on it. If I want
> > to put a qmail of my own into /usr/local, I will still need to keep some
> > Debian mail-delivery-agent installed to satisfy other packages dependance
> > on an MDA. A way to tell dpkg about "non-package provides" would fix this
> > problem in general, but I don't necessarily think that it is needed, or
> > even desirable.
> 
> The difference is that an editor is such a fundamental and
> striaghtforward thing that it will be obvious to the user what they're
> doing without the dependency scheme having to tell them.
> 
> You're using a sledgehammer to crack a probably-nonexistent nut.
> 

Well, if you read the foundation postings on this subject, the nut does
exist. I still think that we are using the right sized wrench.

Later,

Dwarf

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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

muskogee:richard$ uname -a
Linux muskogee 2.0.13 #1 Tue Aug 20 18:45:22 BST 1996 i486
muskogee:richard$ ftp wigwam
Connected to wigwam.elmail.co.uk.
220 wigwam.elmail.co.uk CheckPoint FireWall-1 authenticated ftp server ready
Name (wigwam:richard): richard
331-aftpd: SKEY CHALLENGE: 92 richard
331 aftpd: you can use password@SKEY string
Password: <I type my mojave password>
200 aftpd: Enter SKEY string: you can use 'quote SKEY string' or Account command ('ACCT')
ftp> quote <my skey string 92>
Not connected.
ftp> quit

This happens consistently.  I don't know why the ftp client thinks
there's no connection - if deeper investigation is required I let me
know.

FWIW compare this with telnetting to the ftp port:

muskogee:richard$ telnet wigwam ftp
Trying 193.112.20.200...
Connected to wigwam.elmail.co.uk.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 wigwam.elmail.co.uk CheckPoint FireWall-1 authenticated ftp server ready
user richard
331-aftpd: SKEY CHALLENGE: 91 richard
331 aftpd: you can use password@SKEY string
pass <my password>
200 aftpd: Enter SKEY string: you can use 'quote SKEY string' or Account command ('ACCT')
<my skey string 91>
200-aftpd: User richard authenticated by S/Key system.
200 aftpd: Host: (use 'quote xxxx')
mojave
421-aftpd: Connected to mojave. Logging in...
421 aftpd: aborted
Connection closed by foreign host.
muskogee:richard$ 

(mojave was down when I did all this but it serves to illustrate the
point...)

With Sunos 4.1.3's ftp client:

richard@tlingit:richard$ uname -a
SunOS tlingit 4.1.3_U1 2 sun4m
richard@tlingit:richard$ ftp wigwam
Connected to wigwam.
220 wigwam.elmail.co.uk CheckPoint FireWall-1 authenticated ftp server ready
Name (wigwam:richard): richard
331-aftpd: SKEY CHALLENGE: 90 richard
331 aftpd: you can use password@SKEY string
Password:
200 aftpd: Enter SKEY string: you can use 'quote SKEY string' or Account command ('ACCT')
ftp> quote <skey string 90>
200-aftpd: User richard authenticated by S/Key system.
200 aftpd: Host: (use 'quote xxxx')
ftp> quote muskogee
421-aftpd: User richard@tlingit.elmail.co.uk is not allowed for service ftp on muskogee.
421 aftpd: aborted
ftp>

(again, this serves to illustrate the point, even if it didn't
actually work fully.)

-- 
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I haven't been following the discussion (sorry!). Please present me with
a proposal, and counter-proposals if necessary.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Never mind. Wrong message.


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Let's assume the packages that depend on Motif will eventually get better as
LessTif matures (by the way, someone should package LessTif _now_).

I don't have a problem with your proposal. Can counter-argument be directed
to me, please?

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: lpr
Version: 5.9-12

When receiving files as a remote printer server (from a MS-DOG box) files
got spooled but not printed. lpq gives message

Warning: no daemon present
Rank   Owner      Job  Files                                 Total Size
1st    nobody     209  C:\TMP\~lpt1D12.TMP                   839 bytes

The version of PC TCP we used is 4.1.


Thanks

Bela


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I wrote:

> xauth add :0 . `dd if=/dev/urandom count=1 bs=16 | md5sum`

This is an incomplete fix to the problem; the serverargs also need
to be set:

serverargs="-auth $HOME/.Xauthority"
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Package: xbmbrowser
Version: 4.2-2

Recommends: pbmplus

  It should also allow netpbm to suffice as that's what I (and perhaps
  most others today) have installed.

Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>   ph: +1-415-854-1857  fax: +1-415-854-3195
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Package: gs
Version: 4.01-2

Config-Version: 3.53-4

Package: gsfonts
Version: 3.53-3

  Interestingly enough, these dependencies (shown below) did not
  surface during dselect's selection process, but waited until the
  configuration process.  I just ran dselect again to double-check,
  and I see the dependency on gsfonts in the status window for gs, but
  it doesn't appear in a conflicts screen (see further below).

  Here's the output from dselect doing the setup.  I had at first
  thought that this problem was with mfdcfnt, but the maintainer of
  mfdcfnt set me straight.  There should be a "Setting up gs..."
  prompt for gs.

Setting up mfdcfnt (1.0-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gs:
 gs depends on gsfonts (>= 4.01); however:
  Version of gsfonts on system is 3.53-3.
 gs depends on libpaper (>= 1.0-1); however:
  Package libpaper is not installed.
dpkg: error processing gs (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

  In case it matters, although dpkg 1.2.13elf was selected to be
  installed, it was 1.2.11 that ran the above.

  System info:
	Debian rex
	Linux 2.0.0
	/lib/libc.so.5.2.18

  Current conflicts screen (gs nowhere in sight):

*** Std mail     mpack        Tools for encoding/decoding MIME messages.       
*** Opt graphics xpaint       XPaint is a reasonably versatile bitmap/pixmap ed
*** Xtr x11      xbmbrowser   Browser for Pixmaps and Bitmaps
___ Opt news     inews        A replacement for the C News inews program.
__* Opt news     inewsinn     `inews': NNTP client news injector, from InterNet
___ Opt news     inn          News transport system `InterNetNews' by Rich Salz
  
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Package: mirror
Version: 2.8-6

The control file for mirror should be changed to show that it requires
the installation of the full Perl package, not just the small package
included in the base system (what's missing is a timezone.pl file).

Alternatively, the perl package in the base system needs to have the
timezone.pl file added to it.

Susan Kleinmann


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Package: dpkg-ftp
Version: 1.4.2

Andy,

  Here is the output from running dselect's Install with the ftp
  method right after a successful install (e.g., there is nothing new
  to download).
  
Processing status file...

Processing Package files...
 stable...
 non-free...
 contrib...
 unstable...

Constructing list of files to get...
already got: unstable/binary-i386/net/netbase_2.05-1.deb
already got: unstable/binary-i386/net/netscape_3.0-beta7-1.deb
already got: unstable/binary-i386/net/lpr_5.9-12.deb

Approximate total space required: 0k
Do you want to select the files to get [n]: 

Do you want to download the required files [y]: 
Downloading files... use ^C to stop
Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
Login as anonymous...
Setting transfer mode to binary...
Cd to /pub/debian...
.
.
.

  When the size is 0k, instead of saying "Do you want to select..."
  you should, "No files to download" and continue with the
  installation, bypassing the ftp step.

  System information:

	Package: perl
	Version: 5.003-2
	Linux: 2.0.0
	Debian rex
	/lib/libc.so.5.2.18

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On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

> My memory is going, my archives have bit rot...
> 
> Did we reach any conclusion on reorganizing the devel directory?

No, the suggestions got a bit silly at the end though.

I'd prefer a non-hierarchical reorganization personally.  While none of
the ten thousand scripts that run on master should break, I'm sure they
all will.

(except for the ones I wrote of course) ;-b


Guy


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On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Alexander O. Yuriev wrote:

>       I trust you are all aware of the information released to
> bugtraq/linux-security and linux-alert mailing lists about the vulnerability
> of mount/umount utilities in Linux.
>       I'd really appreciate if you provide some official information on
> your distribution specific fixes for the upcoming Linux Security FAQ
> Update...

Hmmm, it appears that everybody was expecting somebody else to
officially answer this.

Anyway, after rapid installations of mount 2.5j-1.1, mount 2.5k-1,
Debian 1.1.6 contains the latest: mount 2.5l-1.

Debian users can upgrade by simply pointing the dpkg-ftp method of
dselect at `ftp.debian.org:/debian/stable'.

Alternatively they can download the file
`ftp.debian.org:/debian/stable/binary-i386/base/mount_2.5l-1.deb' and
install it by hand with `dpkg -i mount_2.5l-1.deb'.

Alex, in the future please direct these questions to
'security@debian.org'.

(closing the bug)


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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Thomas Koenig wrote:

> I would suggest adding a line like
> 
> xauth add :0 . `dd if=/dev/urandom count=1 bs=16 | md5sum`

util-linux 2.5-5, includes mcookie, a small c program which does this,
so the line should really be:

xauth add :0 . `mcookie`

Incidentally, mcookie tries /dev/random, /dev/urandom, some files in
/proc, and /dev/audio as a last resort.


Guy


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I think the "you must rename the file if you change it" restriction of the
LaTeX style sheet files is one that we _can_ live with. This should not
require them to go in contrib or non-free. Ian, I don't know how you'd
say this in the policy manual.

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Package: perl
Version: 5.003-2
  
Package: ldso
Version: 1.8.2-1
Debian 1.1.5 + rex
Linux 2.0.0
  
  I wouldn't close this bug just yet.  Here's another separate, but
  related, data point.  Peter's first paragraph offers a fix.


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Subject: Re: Missing libdl.so.1
From:    "Peter Tobias" <tobias@server.et-inf.fho-emden.de>
Date:    Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:21:55 +0200 (MET DST)

Bill Wohler wrote:
>   I just updated a bunch of packages last night from unstable and got
>   a couple of errors during installation.  One class of errors
>   included the following messages.  There weren't any errors on a
>   second pass (after the new ldso package was installed and set up).
> 
> Preparing to replace modules (using .../base/modules_2.0.0-8.deb) ...
> perl: can't load library 'libdl.so.1'
> perl: can't load library 'libdl.so.1'
> Saving KDOPT setting from /etc/init.d/kerneld ..
> 

The modules and wu-ftpd packages are ok. Since perl is a base package
they don't need dependencies on it. The bug is probably in the perl
package. Maybe the perl package should use a pre-depend on ldso to
make sure that the ldso package has been correctly installed.

The ldso package removes the old ldso library and installs the new one.
If you upgrade more packages at a time (including ldso) the libdl.so.1 
link probably points to the old (nonexisting) libdl.so.1.xx until the
package has a chance to run its postinst script with the ldconfig
command. This script will be run at the end of the dpkg run. Using
a pre-depends on ldso should fix the problem.

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Otmar Lendl writes in private email which I'm sure he won't mind me
posting:
...
> What I would appreciate is, that all the Developer Ressources
> (Guidelines, Hints, Virtual Names, FSSTD & co.) have a central
> WWW page where I can easily look up the currently valid standards.
> 
> Could you please arrange something like that ? It makes life a
> LOT easier for part-time packagers.

I think this would be a good idea.  We already have a central FTP
area, so it may be just a matter of writing the HTML page and making
the dpkg SGML documentation available.

What do I need to do to make the dpkg SGML documentation available ?
I can cause releases of the dpkg package to upload formatted versions
of the manual, but how should I package these for shipment ?  The HTML
versions in particular come in many files ...

Ian.


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Mark Eichin writes ("Re: installing elisp .el files"):
...
> Byte-compilation depends much more on *speed* than size.  The
> changelog mode doesn't do enough (I assume) to merit the speed
> improvement... gnus, for example, really really needs to be byte
> compiled.  mailcrypt, w3, vm, probably all do as well.  They also
> happen to be big, but that's not the main issue, though there's some
> correlation. 
> 
> Generally, if a package includes an elisp helper file, it probably
> doesn't need to be byte-compiled. If the package is *written*
> primarily in emacs, it's probably complex enough that speed is an
> issue and should be byte compiled. In between it's a convenience
> issue. 

Right.  I'd like to put that last paragraph in the policy manual, if I
may (lightly edited, probably).  Is that OK ?

It would also be good if something like the GNU people's
byte-compilation helper elisp-comp which Erick Branderhorst sent me
could be included in some appropriate package, so that packages can
just use it at build-time.  Let me know if and when this happens so
that I can mention it in the policy manual too.  Text fragments
appreciated, or I might get it wrong.

Ian.


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Ian Jackson writes:
> 
> Damn, it looks like my comment
>  Before anyone changes anything, please read the appropriate part of
>  the new policy manual.
> went unheeded.  I see that the change that Daniel Quinlan requested

Oops.

> has been made.  It's a shame that I didn't get around to writing this
> more detailed response to the situation sooner.

Yes, I waited for some time without getting one reply.

> There is nothing wrong with having an executable mode 4754 setuid
> root, owned by some particular group.  This is the right way to solve
> this problem.

Aynway the file was in the wrong group.

> Compiling names of groups or even worse group ids into binaries is a
> bad idea.

Why? Because it's not easy to change? I talked to Alain (upstream
maintainer) about my changes and he's going to included them into 4.4. I
don't see the problem right now, since you're able to put everyone in group
floppy who shall be able to use fdmount. On the other hand this group coding
(which is ifdef'ed btw so it's not much work to create a new version) adds
security. How many systems have wrong permissions on some files? In
particular a file with s.bit should be as secure as possible IMHO.

> I'm going to reopen this bug report.  Sorry, Michael Meskes (but you
> should have heeded my warning).

No problem Ian. But then I'm not so sure if it's a bug now.

Michael

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Subject: Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages
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maor@debian.org writes:
> 
> These i386 packages were installed into the Debian hierarchy.
> Unfortunately, the version number changes and locations are incorrect
> in a few cases.  The bug has since been fixed.
> 
> [...] 

I've scanned through this list and found quite a lot of packages I never
read an announcement of. I usually read debian-{devel,changes,user,private}
so I take it I should have found this announcements. But I never have. Did I
just miss them? Or is there a problem with the announcements?

Michael
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Subject: Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?
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Ian Jackson writes:
> 2. Package copyright
> --------------------
> 
>      Please study the copyright of your submission *carefully* and
>      understand it before proceeding. If you have doubts or questions,
>      please ask.
> 
>      The aims of the policy detailed below are: 
>         * That any user be able to rebuild any package in the official
>           Debian distribution from the original source plus our patches.

Ahem, this isn't exact enough IMO. With a standard Debian system I am able
to rebuild LyX. 

> [...]
>      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
>      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
>      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
>      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
             ^^^^^^^
>      Debian distribution.

That's exactly the point. I cannot recompile any package that uses Motif
since I don't have it. But I can recompile LyX since we have an xforms
package available. 

Michael

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> I'd prefer a non-hierarchical reorganization personally.  While none of
> the ten thousand scripts that run on master should break, I'm sure they
> all will.

I prefer a non-hierarchical reorganization as well but I suggest that the
section directories are listed in one file per Distribution and that all
scripts read this file first before doing anything.  Adding the name of
that one new section will work for all scripts relying on the information
about what sections exist.  This is kind of similar how the Packages file
are right now (in a way).

Erick



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I just scanned through the packages list to see which ones need to be
updated. Here's a list I found:

xdm		Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk>
xtrlock		Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk>
adduser		Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>

Also I'm not sure about the following:

netatalk	Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
samba		Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au>

Needs update, though not part of the official distribution:

ssh		Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Uni-Mainz.DE>

Needs update, but I don't know how:

imapd		Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>

Are there more? I recommend the maintainers have a look at
ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl//mnt/340/shadow/src for help.

Michael

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Package: 9term
Version: 1.6.6-1

9term doesn't have a terminal definition.  At a minimum, it should
have a definition which specifies that control H is delete_char, and
that it has auto_left_margin.  Also important are some of the escape
sequences -- most critical are the sequences to clear the screen and
position the cursor.

-- 
Raull


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Package: 9term
Version: 1.6.6-1

When using the middle and right button menus under 9term, stale
mouse images get left on the screen.

-- 
Raul


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Package: 9term
Version: 1.6.6-1

The 9term package is missing the label program mentioned on the
manual page.

-- 
Rau


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They are still on
ftp://feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/debian.local/binary-i386/local.

Please test them out! I'd like to finalize the packages as soon as possible
(that'll be next week).

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Date: 23 Aug 96 10:44 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: shadow
Version: 960810-1
Binary:  shadow-passwd shadow-su shadow-login
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 shadow-passwd: Manage shadow password and group files
 shadow-su: su binary from the shadow password suite
 shadow-login: Login utility from the shadow password suite
Changes: 
 shadow (960810-1) base; urgency=LOW
 .
        * Added useradd default file so that default group is no longer 1
        * Also corrected the useradd manpage
        * Replaced grpunconv script by real binary which does correct
          locking.
        * Added 'source' field control file to control files
        * Changed version naming in debian.rules
        * New upstream version
Files:
 be393f1c42a8de16dc0ce3b76696dd84  343134  -   shadow_960810-1.tar.gz
 239245eb73208cc4dbf23ca32278c729  14977  -   shadow_960810-1.diff.gz
 71000f57d0a87dc1d23020505c8ff225  255326  base  required  shadow-passwd_960810-1_i386.deb
 c599ae2734242b101e22f48dcb46a88d  19846  admin  optional  shadow-su_960810-1_i386.deb
 d049d52dea150351758815ff6ed94d52  44862  base  required  shadow-login_960810-1_i386.deb

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Michael

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I propose to post here the changelog entries for the package builders'
manuals as and when I release new versions of them.  So, here goes:

debian-manuals (0.2.1.0) unstable;

  * Policy says when and how to include original source in upload.

  * Need -sa on dpkg-genchanges/dpkg-buildpackage when converting.

  * Use minor patchlevel for meaning changes which don't affect packages.
  * More verbosity about netiquette.
  * Reorganised participation and upload policy: merged with mailing lists.

 -- Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>  Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:48:09 +0100

debian-manuals (0.2.0.1) experimental;

  * Said that system administrators' manual does not exist.

 -- Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>  Fri, 23 Aug 1996 04:05:36 +0100


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You may now upload packages in the new source format to `unstable'.
Packages in `stable' will continue to be in the old format.

Note that the caveats in my release announcement on debian-changes for
1.3.8 apply:

* The new source tools have not been very well tested and will have
  bugs, some probably serious.

* The source format is not entirely fixed yet.  You may need to make
  significant changes.  You _will_ need to keep up with minor
  documentation changes and _will_ need to make at least one further
  release when the format is finalised as the Standards-Version value
  will be changed.  However, building releases is a lot easier now :-)
  and you don't have to re-upload the original source tarfile part of
  the source more than once per upstream version.

I shall probably declare the new format official on Sunday.

Ian.


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Subject: html2latex_0.9c-1
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:44:01 +0200 (MET DST)
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I just needed this one:

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Date: 23 Aug 96 13:40 UT
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Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: html2latex
Version: 0.9c-1
Binary:  html2latex
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 html2latex: Convert HTML markup to LaTeX markup
Changes: 
 html2latex (0.9c-1) tex; urgency=LOW
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        * Added debian files
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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> >      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
> >      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
> >      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
> >      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
>              ^^^^^^^
> >      Debian distribution.
> 
> That's exactly the point. I cannot recompile any package that uses Motif
> since I don't have it. But I can recompile LyX since we have an xforms
> package available. 
> 
Folks that buy my CD can too, but that's because xforms is improperly
located in contrib instead of non-free where it belongs (because source is
not distributed). Non-free is not part of the Debian distribution (in the
most technical use of the term) and programs that depend on them belong in
contrib (or non-free if they have distribution restrictions).

Luck,

Dwarf

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Date: 23 Aug 96 16:34 UT
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Source: mfbasfnt
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Description: 
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Changes: 
 Fri Aug 23 18:12:19 1996  Erick Branderhorst  <branderh@debian.org>
 .
        * added black, committee, gray, half, logo, manualfonts,
        mfbook, slant from ftp.tex.ac.uk
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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> I've scanned through this list and found quite a lot of packages I never
> read an announcement of. I usually read debian-{devel,changes,user,private}
> so I take it I should have found this announcements. But I never have. Did I
> just miss them? Or is there a problem with the announcements?

The 'xx New Debian i386 Packages' mail *is* the announcement I
mentioned earlier.  Some developers also post the .changes file when
they upload it, but that's at their option.  It really isn't
necessary.

I plan to make several improvements to the announcement format this
weekend:
	- description given for new packages
	- urgency field prominent
	- better summary paragraph which lists packages of high urgency
	- sorted by stable, unstable, contrib, non-free
Any other suggestions?


Guy


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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> Ian Jackson writes:
> >      The aims of the policy detailed below are: 
> >         * That any user be able to rebuild any package in the official
> >           Debian distribution from the original source plus our patches.
> 
> Ahem, this isn't exact enough IMO. With a standard Debian system I am able
> to rebuild LyX. 

But not "from the original source plus our patches".  That's the
crucial point.

> That's exactly the point. I cannot recompile any package that uses Motif
> since I don't have it. But I can recompile LyX since we have an xforms
> package available. 

We don't have an xforms package *freely* available.  If some Motif
vendor decided to start selling packages called motif and motif-dev, we
certainly wouldn't consider moving motif apps into the main
distribution.  Those new packages wouldn't be freely available.


Guy


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On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 branderh@debian.IAEhv.nl wrote:

> I prefer a non-hierarchical reorganization as well but I suggest that the
> section directories are listed in one file per Distribution and that all
> scripts read this file first before doing anything.

The scripts which do operations on the hierarchy discover all the .deb
files with find.  The filenames are then stored in the Packages file,
which other scripts read.

A few of my scripts have to make more constraining assumptions of the
hierarchy because they must deal with source files and new packages.
It's true that the new .dsc files provide a more formal mechansism for
associating source files with binary files, but nothing uses them yet

Really the key point is that using a section of
"devel/scripting_languages" should in principle work, but I don't have
time to fix my scripts if it doesn't.


Guy


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Package: bash
Version: 1.14.6-4

I've confirmed that this is a problem on i386.

>Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:42:28 +1000
>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
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>Subject: BoS: BUG in /bin/bash (fwd)
>Status:
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>
>
>Brian Mitchell
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>"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell"
>- H. Truman
>
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>---EXTERNAL RELEASE---EXTERNAL RELEASE---EXTERNAL RELEASE---EXTERNAL
>RELEASE---
>
>                  =======  ============    ======       ======
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>
>                           EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICE
>                          SECURITY VULNERABILITY ALERT
>
>21 August 1996 13:00 GMT                         Number:
>ERS-SVA-E01-1996:004.1
>===============================================================================
>                             VULNERABILITY  SUMMARY
>
>VULNERABILITY:  A variable declaration error in "bash" allows the character
>                with value 255 decimal to be used as a command separator.
>
>PLATFORMS:      Bash 1.14.6 and earlier versions.
>
>SOLUTION:       Apply the patch provided below.
>
>THREAT:         When used in environments where users provide strings to be
>                used as commands or arguments to commands, "bash" can be
>                tricked into executing arbitrary commands.
>
>===============================================================================
>                              DETAILED INFORMATION
>
>I. Description
>
>   A. Introduction
>
>      The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell ("bash") is a drop-in replacement
>      for the UNIX Bourne shell (/bin/sh).  It offers the same syntax as the
>      standard shell, but also includes additional functionality such as job
>      control, command line editing, and history.
>
>      Although "bash" can be compiled and installed on almost any UNIX
>      platform, its most prevalent use is on "free" versions of UNIX such as
>      Linux, where it has been installed as "/bin/sh" (the default shell for
>      most uses).
>
>      The "bash" source code is freely available from many sites on the
>      Internet.
>
>   B. Vulnerability Details
>
>      There is a variable declaration error in the "yy_string_get()" function
>      in the "parser.y" module of the "bash" source code.  This function is
>      responsible for parsing the user-provided command line into separate
>      tokens (commands, special characters, arguments, etc.).  The error
>      involves the variable "string," which has been declared to be of type
>      "char *."
>
>      The "string" variable is used to traverse the character string
>      containing the command line to be parsed.  As characters are retrieved
>      from this pointer, they are stored in a variable of type "int."  On
>      systems/compilers where the "char" type defaults to "signed char", this
>      vaule will be sign-extended when it is assigned to the "int" variable.
>      For character code 255 decimal (-1 in two's complement form), this sign
>      extension results in the value (-1) being assigned to the integer.
>
>      However, (-1) is used in other parts of the parser to indicate the end
>      of a command.  Thus, the character code 255 decimal (377 octal) will
>      serve as an unintended command separator for commands given to "bash"
>      via the "-c" option.  For example,
>
>        bash -c 'ls\377who'
>
>      (where "\377" represents the single character with value 255 decimal)
>      will execute two commands, "ls" and "who."
>
>II. Impact
>
>This unexpected command separator can be dangerous, especially on systems such
>as Linux where "bash" has been installed as "/bin/sh," when a program executes
>a command with a string provided by a user as an argument using the "system()"
>or "popen()" functions (or by calling "/bin/sh -c string" directly)..
>
>This is especially true for the CGI programming interface in World Wide Web
>servers, many of which do not strip out characters with value 255 decimal.  If
>a user sending data to the server can specify the character code 255 in a
>string that is passed to a shell, and that shell is "bash," the user can
>execute any arbitrary command with the user-id and permissions of the user
>running the server (frequently "root").
>
>The "bash" built-in commands "eval," "source," and "fc" are also potentially
>vulnerable to this problem.
>
>III. Solutions
>
>   A. How to alleviate the problem
>
>      This problem can be alleviated by changing the declaration of the
>      "string" variable in the "yy_string_get()" function from "char *" to
>      "unsigned char *."
>
>   B. Official fix from the "bash" maintainers
>
>      The "bash" maintainers have told us they plan to fix this problem in
>      Version 2.0 of "bash," but this will not be released for at least a few
>      more months.
>
>   C. Unofficial fix until the official version is released
>
>      Until the "bash" maintainers release Version 2.0, this problem can be
>      fixed by applying the patch below to the "bash" source code, recompiling
>      the program, and installing the new version.
>
>      The patch below is for Version 1.14.6 of "bash."  Source code for this
>      version can be obtained from
>
>         ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/bash-1.14.6.tar.gz
>
>      as well as many other sites around the Internet.
>
>---------------------------------- cut here ----------------------------------
>*** parse.y.old Thu Nov  2 15:00:51 1995
>--- parse.y     Tue Aug 20 09:16:48 1996
>***************
>*** 904,910 ****
>  static int
>  yy_string_get ()
>  {
>!   register char *string;
>    register int c;
>
>    string = bash_input.location.string;
>--- 904,910 ----
>  static int
>  yy_string_get ()
>  {
>!   register unsigned char *string;
>    register int c;
>
>    string = bash_input.location.string;
>---------------------------------- cut here ----------------------------------
>
>      To apply this patch, save the text between the two "--- cut here ---"
>      lines to a file, change directories to the "bash" source directory, and
>      issue the command
>
>        patch < filename
>
>      If you do not have the "patch" program, you can obtain it from
>
>        ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/patch-2.1.tar.gz
>
>      or you can apply the patch by hand.
>
>      After applying the patch, recompile and reinstall the "bash" program by
>      following the directions in the "INSTALL" file, included as part of the
>      "bash" distribution.
>
>      This patch is provided "AS IS" without warranty of any kind, including,
>      without limitation, any implied warranties of merchantibility or fitness
>      for a particular purpose.  This advisory does not create or imply any
>      support obligations or any other liability on the part of IBM or its
>      subsidiaries.
>
>IV. Acknowledgements
>
>IBM-ERS would like to thank the IBM Global Security Analysis Laboratory at the
>IBM T. J. Watson Research Center for their discovery of this vulnerability,
>bringing it to our attention, providing the patch to fix it, and assistance in
>developing this alert.
>
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>
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>
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Bruce Perens writes ("Bug#4195: dpkg-source and new tar package don't mix"):
> Package: dpkg
> Version: 1.3.5
> 
> The latest iteration of the tar package unfortunately is not able to
> understand the "--" flag. I suggest you not use that flag in dpkg-source
> for now.

Thanks for pointing out what was wrong.

I have worked around this in 1.3.6 by removing the `--' argument.
However, this will cause dpkg-source to break if the next argument
ever starts with a `-' so I do not propose to leave this workaround in
permanently.

I shall leave this bug report open against dpkg so that I do not
forget to change it.

Ian.


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Date: 23 Aug 96 20:02 UT
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Distribution: unstable
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Maintainer: Brian White <bcwhite@pobox.com>
Source: netscape
Version: 3.0-1
Binary:  netscape
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 netscape: Popular World-Wide-Web browser software (installer)
 -  Netscape (pronounced "Mozilla") is a graphical World-Wide-Web browser
 -  with many features.  It supports advanced features of HTML and new
 -  technologies such as "Java" from Sun Microsystems.
 -  .
 -  Netscape Communications Corporation does not allow redistribution of
 -  their software.  Therefore, this package requires the user to fetch
 -  the netscape archive seperately and place it in the directory pointed
 -  to by the TMPDIR environment variable (or /tmp if TMPDIR not defined)
 -  before attempting to install this package.  You can get the linux
 -  packages via anonymous ftp from "ftp[1-9].netscape.com".
 -  .
 -  Do NOT try to install any version of Netscape other than 3.0 with
 -  this package!
 -  .
 -  Netscape Communications Corporation does not support the Linux release
 -  in the slightest, even for paying customers.  It has been made available
 -  purely as a courtesy, so please do not send them questions about Linux.
 -  .
 -  This installer package has been placed in the public domain!
Changes:
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Package: msqld
Version: 1.0.16-2


After upgrading from v1.0.14...


The /var/log/msql directory is:

drwxr-x---   2 operator msql         1024 Aug 23 15:11 /var/log/msql/

It should be owned by "root.msql" and have the permissions "775".


The /etc/msql.acl file is:

-rwx------   1 operator msql          300 Aug 23 15:08 /etc/msql.acl*

It should be owned by "msql.msql" and have the permissions "775".


*** The install script removed the existing "msql.acl" file I had made.
Good thing I make backups!


Fixing these and restarting using "/etc/init.d/msqld start" gives
the following error (repeatedly)...

>Subject:        Minerva Daemon Crash Report
>   Date:        Fri, 23 Aug 96 15:46 EDT
>   From:        msql (Mini SQL Database Manager)
>     To:        root
>
>
>Program : msqld
>Time : Fri Aug 23 15:46:58 EDT 1996
>Program Output
>--------------
>
>
>Can't start server : UNIX Bind : Permission denied
>
>
>mSQL Server 1.0.16 starting ...


The unix socket is:

srwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            0 Aug 21 15:52 /dev/msql=

This should probably be owned by "root.msql", but shouldn't be the
cause of this problem.


Trying to stop these repeated message by doing "/etc/init.d/msqld stop"
gives the following error:

callandor:/etc# /etc/init.d/msqld stop
ERROR : Can't connect to local MSQL server
rm: /var/run/msqld/shutdown: Permission denied
rm: /var/run/msqld/shutdown: Permission denied

The shutdown file is:

-rw-r-----   1 root     root            5 Aug 23 15:52 /var/run/msqld/shutdown

Since I ran the stop command as root, the only thing I can think of here
is that something is running as user/group "msql" and could thus not access
the shutdown file.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
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OVER 17 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   660 gdb        GDB gets address of structure  David Engel <david@ods.com>

OVER 16 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   725 xbase      twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   740 xbase      xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   773 xbase      xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   775 xbase      twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   818 bash       bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
   820 tcsh       tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
   821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
   825 trn        trn warning messages corrupt t jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
   836 termcap-co Possible bugs in termcap syste Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 15 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   887 xarchie    xarchie barfs when ftp closes  Christian Linhart <chris@debian
   889 info       Info 3.1-6                     Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
   902 lpr        lpr can't print a PostScript f Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
   911 libc4      libc causes rsh to fail on com (unknown -- `libc')

OVER 14 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   957 dpkg       dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
   988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
   998 boot-flopp Can't Configure DOS Partitions Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1009 bash       bash problem with quoting/comp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1016 procps     top has 3's in vt100           Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1037 dpkg       dselect user interface (was Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1045 termcap-co tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd) Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1061 lpr        /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde

OVER 13 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1099 perl       perl bug                       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1108 binutils   No manpage ar(5)               David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1112 gsfonts    a2gs output unusable by gs but joost witteveen <joostje@master
  1118 fortune    fortune is setuid games ?!     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1130 libc4      Stdlib.h problems when using g (unknown -- `libc')
  1164 shellutils who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1170 perl       perl fails to make headers fir Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 12 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1176 procps     /usr/bin/top segfault with unk Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1201 perl       perl doesn't know about includ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1211 libc4      libc __nis_getgrnam() segfault (unknown -- `libc')
  1239 findutils  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  1240 procps     ps(1) man page incomplete      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1246 procps     ps man page does not agree wit Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1247 perl       perl <...> globbing only works Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1265 uucp       Misc. uucp bugs                dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1275 xarchie    xarchie clumsy with 2-button m Christian Linhart <chris@debian
  1278 libc4      dpkg seg faults with NIS       (unknown -- `libc')
  1279 libc4      Strangeness involving <bsd/sig (unknown -- `libc')
  1281 bin86      bin86                          (unknown -- `bin')
  1292 xserver-sv X locks up                     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o

OVER 11 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1303 binutils   `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1314 ncurses3.0 ncurses fails in silly way on  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  1336 procps     CFLAGS shouldn't be used when  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1366 acm        acm networking problems        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  1372 boot-flopp rootdisk: no dvorak keytable   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1378 libc4      weird ELF/a.out difference     (unknown -- `libc')
  1381 workbone   workbone postinst fails        dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1399 dpkg       dselect error handling not con Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1406 dbackup    backup postrm can fail when it dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1411 perl       perlconfig misses an opportuni Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1429 bibtex, kp several TeX packages Provide t Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1451 ghostview  `ghostviewR6' conflict with gh Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1467 ax25-kerne `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-ut (unknown -- `ax')
  1480 dpkg       start-stop-daemon doesn't chec Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1481 smail      smail paniclog suggestion      Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1488 dld        dld control file dsccription p gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  1502 ltxtool lt Uniform lists in debian.contro Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1526 dpkg       man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1532 repair     no revision number with repair Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1533 procps     `w' produces bogus login@, idl Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1549 bash       bash should not have world-rea Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1555 dpkg       dselect per-screen-half focus  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1560 shellutils `su' produces incomplete log e daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1616 shellutils 'who' can't find utmp          daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1621 xbase      Xmark has no manpage           Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1624 bash       thermal run away problem       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1642 dpkg       dpkg recursive package listing Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1647 texbin     dpkg can present incorrect inf Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1653 texbin     Missing dvicopy(1) man page.   Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1663 texbin     TeX comes without configuratio Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1664 texbin     TeX is lacking documentation o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1670 dpkg       start-stop-daemon is too slow  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1672 ftp.debian non-free packages              Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1681 cron       Missing files                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1685 libc4      dpkg-split --msdos not correct (unknown -- `libc')
  1686 mfbin      psfonts.map can't be found     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1690 xbase      XDM protection fault on X conf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1691 xbase      X config allows invalid numeri Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1693 smail      forwarded message from Harald  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1699 base       Install/Config quirks: Missing Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1702 bash       telnet+su root->thermal proces Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1703 xtron      xtron documentation            Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  1707 kernel     image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1708 adduser? m `passwd' not interruptible whe Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1711 adduser    adduser replaces NIS entries i Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1713 procps     procps: manpage doesn't tell t Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1714 bash       bash is confused when breaking Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1742 base       /dev/tty has wrong permissions Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1744 kernel     dpkg: cannot scan updates dire Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1746 bash       rsh <system> sh -i produces CP Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1747 nas        nas: no manpages for au availa Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  1759 kernel     running out of swap causes dea Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1771 ltxtool    Legal problems with ltxtool    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1774 libc4      <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH conta (unknown -- `libc')

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1791 dosemu     dosemu troubles                Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  1796 xserver-s3 missing call to ntohs in X ser (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  1797 dpkg       upgrade/downgrade dependency c Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1799 smail      smail nameresloving problems   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1803 termcap-co /etc/termcap linux definition  Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1818 dpkg       configure ordering based on Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1819 xbase      X11 doesn't set a lock on the  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1823 texbin     texbin postinst failed with er Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1834 bash       [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  1845 trn        dead.letter and dead.article a jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  1853 procps     top fails after 130 processes? Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1855 base       packages adding entries to /et Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1856 perl       creating perl header files     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1858 kpathsea   kpathsea package does not inst Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1865 kpathsea   cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable:  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1873 dvipsk     dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize! Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1874 a2ps       a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!   (unknown -- `a')
  1879 emacs      Emacs shell mode weirdness - l Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  1881 majordomo  Majordomo UID wrong?           Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1885 base       base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1901 kbd        `compose' keytable command not Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  1908 procps     Top and tabs                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1914 kernel     general protection in unix_pro Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1916 perl       perl: wrong entries in Config. Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1921 dpkg       update-alternatives prompt, dp Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1922 kernel     1.3.43 Kernel is too nice      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1929 smail      aliasinclude and forwardinclud Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1933 procps     w from procps gives wrong idle Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1934 mfbin      font scaling problem           Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1954 base       setting up the network         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1955 base       base discs still aren't creati Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1962 kernel     kernel needs sbpcd.h editing i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1972 perl       perl should suggest kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1973 workbone   workbone postinst needs reword dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1981 xcontrib   xman fails to format ascii(7)  Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  1984 workbone   dpkg won't install cdtool      dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1985 xbase      xdm won't redirect to remote m Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1989 kernel     mmap bug?                      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1997 ncurses3.0 ncurses linux terminal definit (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2001 base       Incorrect ownership of audio d Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2009 mailx      mailx ignores ^C at Subject pr Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2010 mailx      mailx misses VM-generated From Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2011 libc4      very silly messages from rsh   (unknown -- `libc')
  2022 general    utmp corruption                debian-devel@pixar.com
  2023 texbin     latex dumps core on -QUIT      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2027 kpathsea   tiny bug in web2c debian.rules Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2037 bibtex     bibtex not searching $TEXINPUT Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2038 texbin     tex man page has unexpanded ma Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2039 xserver-ma X server font erosion          (unknown -- `xserver-mach')
  2051 xntp       /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handl Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2054 latex,xdvi no subject (file transmission) Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2063 kernel     scsi driver sequence unreasona Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2064 kernel     aha1740 driver only supports o Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2067 lynx       lynx -source can't find docume Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2068 shellutils su doesn't su.                 daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2070 base       /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2076 ncurses-bi reset(1)                       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2085 ncurses3.0 /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs C (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2099 ax25-util  slip module stops axattach     (unknown -- `ax')
  2104 dvipsk     dvips doesn't provide color    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2105 kernel     console error messages "Source Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2110 bash       Bash tab completion of non alp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2112 inn        Submission for INN doc file    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2122 xdvik      xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2158 ncurses-te new ncurses bug ?              Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2159 procps     "ps pids" lists more than just Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2161 binutils   elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld ca David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2167 timezone   timezone zdump for US zones gi Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2169 timezone   timezone zdump utility should  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2170 timezone   timezone: it needs more docume Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2171 timezone   timezone: how to determine zon Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2177 strace     "strace -ff -o file dpkg --ins Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  2182 perl       perl shouldn't touch /usr/loca Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2183 emacs      emacs shouldn't touch /usr/loc Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2184 perl       perl's sys/socket.ph causes wa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2185 mflib      texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?   Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2186 texlib     national hyphenation patterns  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2196 ytalk      ytalk `shell' option can't run Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2197 hdparm     hdparm -c switch               Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  2198 uucp       uuxqt can't execute rmail      dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2200 ghostview  Description                    Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2205 most       Description                    Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  2206 rsynth     Description                    Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  2209 dld        Description                    gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2211 auto-pgp   Description                    Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  2220 inn        INN feed password interacts ba Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2231 mathpad    mathpad problems               Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2233 groff      groff-1.09-4                   Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2235 emacs      emacs eats manual pages        Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2241 perl       Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2242 mc (Midnig mc should depend on ncurses3.0 Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2243 xbase      xterm vanishes when it's big ( Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2251 perl       Perl coredumps while invoking  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2254 perl       perl doesn't initialize variab Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2265 bash       bash `horizontal scroll' can't Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2267 emacs      emacs ange ftp fails           Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2275 timezone   ctime(3) should be replaced by Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2284 mailx      mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends m Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2291 ncurses3.0 missing terminfo capabilities  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2292 shellutils date does not support dates pa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2293 uucp       uucp should compress big files dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2295 lynx       (no subject)                   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2296 bugs.debia debian-bugs WWW doesn't say ho Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2297 xbase      xterm gets mouse-paste and RET Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2298 trn        trn bug with shell escaping    jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  2301 bash       bash doesn't document any way  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2302 rcs        RCS - problems with msdos file Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2304 mount      umount calls gethostbyname() a Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2309 adduser    Multiple root accounts         Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  2311 svgalib1-b svgalib has undocumented setui (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2313 xbase      xterm keymapping problems susp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2318 emacs      Emacs makes it hard for MTAs t Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2321 libc5 (and libc doesn't use **h_aliases ( (unknown -- `libc')
  2334 mh         MH scan -width dumps core      Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2345 shellutils Inclusion of shadow breaks up  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2346 mh         MH can lose mail               Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2348 smail      Smail fails to define NO_PETER Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2353 xterm-colo postrm script broken           Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2356 mailx      mailx -- problems with TMPDIR  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2357 dvipsk     dvipsk generated PS causes `re Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2360 xbase      xdm cannot find a free VT      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2362 bash       bash (readline) dumps core on  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2365 pine       Pine erases message before I c Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2367 pine       Pine supplies PATH line when p Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2379 svgalib1   svgalib postinst broken        (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2387 libc5-dev  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documente (unknown -- `libc')
  2392 emacs      Emacs mishandles fonts under X Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2402 procps     ps no longer understands `g' o Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2405 perl       perl postinst messages re unct Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 5 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2417 emacs      emacs inferior process buffers Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2423 smail      scattered sendmail links       Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2425 ispell     ispell thinks `formated' is co Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  2427 procps     top d 60 fails                 Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2430 kermit     kermit configuration script is (unknown -- `kermit')
  2431 emacs      Emacs mishandles X fonts.      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2439 sysvinit   rc?.d scripts sometimes not ru Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2440 perl       sys/socket.ph produces spuriou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2450 cdtool     `cdir' prints out huge chunks  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2455 svgalib1   can't install svgalib1-1.28-5  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2460 procps     bizarre output from `free'     Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2463 kernel     "msdos" filesystem needed for  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2470 kernel     in kernel Attached ether adapt Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2474 ncurses-bi /usr/bin/reset does the wrong  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2475 at         `at' uses middle-endian 2-digi Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2476 emacs      emacs mucks up my email addres Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2477 emacs      annoying bug in emacs          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2478 emacs      ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2479 emacs      ange-ftp is incredibly ineffic Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2481 general    /sbin/ldconfig in scripts      debian-devel@pixar.com
  2483 libdb1     libdb1 uses not-yet-completely (unknown -- `libdb')
  2484 libgdbm1   libgdbm1 conflicts with some v (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  2486 xwpe       Ghost packages                 dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  2493 gcc        GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied e David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2495 perl       perl requires tcsh (as it is c Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2501 perl       (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2502 perl       configure fails if /vmlinuz is Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2503 elv-ctags  elvis and emacs both provide c mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill
  2504 libdb1     remove -m486 from Makefile     (unknown -- `libdb')
  2510 rxvt       rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2520 procps     procps needs dependency on ncu Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2524 base       problems with base package     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2530 bind       bind locks up system           Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2531 dpkg       install-info should use better Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2532 emacs      Emacs fails to use `set -e' in Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2536 dpkg       dpkg inappropriately marks pac Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2538 base       audio devices have different g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2542 netatalk   No default config files?       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2547 tf         tf does not support visual mod Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2556 lpr        "\031\1"                       Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2557 elm        add to elm manpage             Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2562 elm        elm manpage paths incorrect    Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2569 boot-flopp bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2573 libc5-dev  sysinfo system call not in lib (unknown -- `libc')
  2575 ytalk      ytalk lies about who you are t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2576 dpkg       base: selecting [A]ccess with  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam

OVER 4 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2589 perl       perl can't load libdb.so.1     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2590 perl       new revision of perl does not  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2591 dialog     rootdisk                       Leland Lucius <llucius@millcomm
  2592 elvisnox   Elvis Compilation Peoblem      sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  2593 perl       perl tries to install in /usr/ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2603 dpkg       dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when inst Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2604 ash        ash: cc: Internal compiler err Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2610 libg++27   support for m68k-linux         (unknown -- `libg++')
  2621 texbin     unstable/texbin install fails  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2630 emacs      emacs package needs to break c Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2634 emacs      emacs hung                     Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2648 mh                                        Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2650 win32binut win32binutils has /usr/bin/fle (unknown -- `win')
  2658 perl       Errors during perlconfig       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2661 mh         dist and mh both have a dist m Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2664 dpkg       arrow keys fail in dselect not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2671 timezone   timezone Mexico/General doesn' Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2682 timezone   Zoneinfo library has a name-cl Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2688 base       base: wrong group for rft* dev Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2689 xemacs     (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2690 netatalk   netatalk: a few small problems Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2691 perl       new perl break suid scripts    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2692 kernel     kernel swap space problem      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2699 ytalk      ytalk doesn't use FQDNs        Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2701 seyon      seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't wo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2709 emacs      emacs should list /usr/lib/ema Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2710 xterm-colo colour xterm has problems when Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2714 emacs      Emacs and XEmacs share files   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2717 general    conffiles in /usr              debian-devel@pixar.com
  2721 procps     free fails to understand recen Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2728 procps     top coredump                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2731 emacs      emacs with gud creates ~/.term Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2733 mailx      /usr/bin/mail leaves lock file Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2737 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv: missing source  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2738 boot-flopp Installing Debian 1.1          Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2739 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2740 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2741 base       First booting with Debian 1.1  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2758 dld        dld: missing source file       gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2762 ax25-kerne ax25-kernel-source: missing so (unknown -- `ax')
  2764 texpsfnt   texpsfnt: missing source file  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2765 ax25-util  ax25-util: missing source file (unknown -- `ax')
  2774 syslinux   syslinux: missing source file  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2785 timezone   Timezone has static library?   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2789 elm        elm doesn't show rest of pgp-s Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2796 sysvinit   sysvinit makes obsolete symbol Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2802 apache     apache tweaks                  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2803 xdvik      xdvi does not handle redraws o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2806 ncurses3.0 ncurses man pages internal inc (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2810 uucp       uucp postrm should use -f flag dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2812 apache     Apache server: SECURITY HOLE   Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2818 bash       bash doesn't provide enough do Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>

OVER 3 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2819 bind       named loses (in an easily fixe Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2822 inn        Some minor glitches with the i Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2823 mc         mc segfaults on reconnect of f Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2825 nvi        restricted movement in nvi     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2828 dpkg       have to install xosview twice  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2829 emacs      emacs: gdb says: slashes aren' Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2834 dpkg       desect loses state if it can't Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2839 xemacs     Xemacs problems                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2840 base       Conflicting entries in login/g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2841 procps     top produces `$<3>' at end of  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2850 boot-flopp nfs.o isn't loaded in clean de Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2852 g77        Bug 2711: g77 does not include (unknown -- `g')
  2856 bash       fd leak in bash                Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2861 manpages   glob(3) references glob(7); th Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  2863 ncurses-ba dselect and ncurses in select  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2870 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug             awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2874 gpm        gpm will not work if the syste Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2876 svgalib1   svgalib will not work in a set (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2884 tkman      tkman doesn't use /var/catman  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2889 base       no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 bo Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2891 taper      taper documentation is missing Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  2892 setserial  setserial marked as Essential  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  2894 dpkg       dpkg guidelines info files not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2895 base       base -- incorrect passwd entry Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2896 libdb1     postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libdb')
  2899 libreadlin postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libreadline')
  2904 dpkg       install-info doesn't cope with Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2906 glibcdoc   Inconsistency in libc.info re  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2908 sysvinit   mesg sets wrong permissions on Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2909 gcc        GCC Info has funny formatting  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2910 gcc        GCC accepts multi-line strings David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2911 dpkg       Conffiles are deleted too late Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2913 ipx        ipx bootup scripts are broken  mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  2919 fort77     very bad fort77 installation m (unknown -- `fort')
  2920 base       incorrect entry for nobody in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2927 base       /usr/info/dir in base confuses Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2928 base       nobody has wrong login shell   Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2929 dpkg       dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.     Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2933 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002      awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2934 apache     Some cgi scripts don't work    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2937 bootdisk   Copyright message function key Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2938 procps     libproc is in wrong place      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2939 dpkg       Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2940 kernel     image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2942 timezone?, Wrong timezone for Europe/Wars Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2945 rootdisk   Bus Error given by rootdisk    Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  2946 lynx       Lynx gives fatal error message Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2956 bootdisk   beta experience                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2959 shellutils date +%Z bug                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2962 ncurses3.0 dselect arrow keys don't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2964 lynx       lynx -dump fails through proxy Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2965 lynx       lynxexec not compiled into lyn Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2966 bugs.debia bugs2ftp is broken             Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2969 man        zsoelim [in man] is confused b Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  2970 groff      soelim [in groff] is confused  Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2971 mailx      mailx doesn't quit on two succ Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2972 mfbin      MetaFONT linked against X libr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2973 dpkg       install-info created 5 Develop Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2978 base       May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[3 Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2982 xntp       xntp calls ntpdate at start    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2989 rxvt       rxvt source bug                Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2991 elm        nfrm is not installed...       Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2998 bugs.debia bugs2ftp still flaky           Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  3002 base       majordomo has conflicting grou Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3019 kernel     no 386 support in kernel_image Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3026 xbase      xbase et al postinst doesn't f Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3027 base       updatedb can't run properly    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3031 boot-flopp various boot-floppies nits     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3036 base       automatic adduser/addgroup in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3038 lpr        SOLVED: can't remove print job Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3039 base       MAKEDEV script does not create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3040 kernel     Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3042 elm        Elm produces bogus Content-Typ Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3046 smail      Smail configuration problem?   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3047 cron       cron script problem?           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3050 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser man page installed  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3052 guile      guile is missing slib.info.gz  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3053 gnats      gnats: typo in postinst omits  bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. Whi
  3056 ash        ash-source contains objects    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3064 boot-flopp need a pointer in /usr/doc/boo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3066 general    a.out binaries in various pack debian-devel@pixar.com
  3067 xaw3d      broken libXaw3d                (unknown -- `xaw')
  3070 base       base copyright string          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3073 xbase      xbase contains imake and xmkmf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3075 lpr, magic lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts fa Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3077 mfbin      gray font .mf files missing fr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3080 procps     error message in syslog caused Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3084 timezone   missing timezones              Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3087 shellutils Bug in date.                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3093 perl       Perl dumps core                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3095 xbase      xbase kills xdm and *then* ask Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3096 lxtools    lxtools: user error (misuse of Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3098 man        man-2.3.10-11 segfaults        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3102 procps     top has problems when not on c Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3105 lynx       lynx access to dot files is di Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3106 kernel     v 1.1 beta kernel image not fo Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3107 nas        nas postinst could use a warni Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3109 man        man 9menu unpleasant           Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3110 xbase?     X servers muck up xdm when uni Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3112 uucp       UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3113 ncurses3.0 dselect provokes ncurses probl (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3115 taper      taper recommends ftape         Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3119 emacs      emacs font handling            Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3121 boot-flopp boot-floppies doesn't have bas Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>

Over two months old - attention is required:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3122 debianutil run-parts should ignore RCS    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3124 cern-httpd CERN httpd sends useless cron  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3125 dpkg       bug (and correction) in dpkg-1 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3128 mc         mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3130 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3135 psnfss     psnfss has no Architecture fie Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3140 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bug Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3142 rootdisk   1.1 installation and large par Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3143 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3146 base, ae   1.1 installation: ae doesn't w Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3147 rootdisk   May 19 boot floppies...        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3149 base       upgrading base truncates utmp  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3151 sendmail   Sendmail runs too late         Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3153 inn        inn ctlinnd not readable/execu Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3155 spice      spice still on my system       (unknown -- `spice')
  3156 lpr        lpr and smail uuname returned  Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3158 most       most differs from man page     Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3161 general    Newbie 1.1beta installation.   debian-devel@pixar.com
  3162 xbase      disconnects between ncurses-ba Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3163 ncurses-ba disconnects between ncurses-ba Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3164 smail      runq dumps core                Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3165 manpages   fcntl(2) references nonexisten Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3169 genscript  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papers Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3170 dpkg       again dpkg --root=xxx          Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3174 bash       set -i doesn't work in bash    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3176 mandelspaw mandelspawn slave problems     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3177 bash       sh -nc <command> actually runs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3179 emacs      emacs ctags segfaults          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3180 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml semantics and fo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3183 base       permissions problems with /var Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3185 bootdisk   Lack of NCR53c810 support on b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3186 xfractint  Can't chdir                    Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3190 libc5      rlogin takes far too long when (unknown -- `libc')
  3191 ncurses-bi reset(1) doesn't bring an xter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3192 ncurses-bi tset(1) man page problem       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3195 kernel     "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fail Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3196 ispell     ispell symlinks broken         Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  3197 procmail   wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/proc Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3198 dviljk     dviljk is still aout! :-(      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3199 lists.debi Bizarre message from debian-de Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3202 dviljk     dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! : Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3206 rc         rc terminates on CTRL-C        Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3207 ncurses3.0 strange screen update choices  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3208 amd        amd bug                        Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3212 perl       Perl recommends nonexistent pa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3213 fortune    fortune need libc.so.4         dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3216 auto-pgp   auto-pgp doesn't remove info e Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3218 dpkg       install-info adds Miscellaneou Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3220 man        apropos dumps core             Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3223 guile      guile installs entry for slib, Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3224 apsfilter  apsfilter doesn't configure on Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3225 dpkg       dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems fr Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3227 login      login refuses, and then allows Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3230 perl       why the hell does perl depend  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3231 base       /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not pr Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3233 dpkg       dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2n Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3240 libdb1     [libdb]: obsolete bugfix       (unknown -- `libdb')
  3241 emacs      derived.el fails in emacs      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3242 perl       perl's dependencies are wrong  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3244 libc5      (no subject)                   (unknown -- `libc')
  3245 mc         mc should depend on gpm        Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3246 xcompat    Cant load library libXt.so.6   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3247 lilo       Lilo unpack removes boot.b     Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3250 cfingerd   cfingerd descriptive text      Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3252 base       base template /usr/info/dir ma Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3253 pine       Pine over-encodes files (came  Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3258 kernel     pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3260 procps     psupdate man page out of date  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3265 kernel     kernel-image and PS/2 mouse pr Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3267 xbase      Unqualified hostnames in rstar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3268 kernel     network modules don't work wit Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3269 bootdisk   bootdisk silently fails-change Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3272 rootdisk   bug in root disks...           Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3275 kernel     dpkg --no-act leaves control i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3277 perl       nit: perl setup emits a \n     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3279 bootdisk/r ne2000 lockups during instalat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3280 gpm        (no subject)                   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3283 perl       /usr/bin/perlconfig should be  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3284 giftrans   giftrans is free               Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3287 maelstrom  (no subject)                   Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3292 xcal       xcal app-defaults shouldn't be Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3295 perl       perls debian.rules doesn't wor Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3296 perl       /bin/perl is not updated       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3300 xserver-sv xserver-svga configuration     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3304 rman       [rman] Off-by-one in generated Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3307 ddd-smotif ddd-smotif does not replace dd Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3308 xmanpages  X(1) manpage in wrong place?   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3312 mathpad    installation and startup probl Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3314 base       On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3315 base       Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3317 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml info files are m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3319 deliver    deliver does not set exit code Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3320 bootdisk   Kernel oops - problem with APM Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3321 libgdbm1   libgdbm.so version number...   (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3323 mflib      MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3327 cern-httpd cern-httpd postinst hangs if d Steve Greenland <stevegr@master

Over one month old:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3328 gawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3335 libdb1     Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libdb')
  3336 less       Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3342 libgdbm1   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3345 libreadlin Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libreadline')
  3348 patch      Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3349 procmail   Problems encountered while com Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3350 procps     Problems encountered while com Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3353 bash       Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3359 shellutils Problems encountered while com daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3361 byacc      Problems encountered while com dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3362 mingetty   Problems encountered while com Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  3363 timezone   Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3366 smail      Problems encountered while com Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3370 cern-httpd httpdconfig installs Welcome.h Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3372 mgetty     mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3373 gpm        gpm -k hangs if X server runni Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3374 cvs        CVS wrappers can't be turned o Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3382 workbone   workbone disappears during upg dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3384 apache     apache leaves /var/log/httpd n Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3385 xosview    xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (agai joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3386 lynx       lynx version number changes    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3387 base       base leaves /tmp/base.postinst Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3393 kernel     printer-driver problem in kern Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3395 xbase      can't login via xdm            Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3396 tcsh       tcsh doesn't provide c-shell   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3397 kernel     (no subject)                   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3400 emacs      gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-1 Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3406 dpkg       dselect unreadable under xterm Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3407 fvwm2      fvwm2: WindowList infelicity   Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3408 passwd     Various bugs in passwd manpage Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3409 base       Could not make boot floppy     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3410 dpkg       some problems/bugs/suggestions Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3413 pcb        linked with aout libXaw        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3415 latex      Xdvi and postscript fonts      Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3420 rootdisk   Boot disk creats corrupted fil Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3421 base       /tmp installs wrongly          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3422 ncurses3.0 termcap entry too long error   (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3423 perl       Problems installing kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3431 www.debian some packages have no informat Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3433 cfingerd   weird output if cfingerd.conf: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3434 perl       pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cu Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3437 fvwm       fvwm should not recommend fvwm Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3439 login      Login reconfigures serial port Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3442 python     python postinst is very verbos Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3451 rootdisk   Missing label 'llseek' in e2fs Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3454 ucbmpeg    ucbmpeg control file problems  Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3456 a2gs       a2gs prompt looks like `please (unknown -- `a')
  3457 diald      diald control file problems    Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3458 dviljk     dviljk missing prompt for inpu Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3459 inn        inn should Depend on inewsinn, Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3462 inn        INN postinst and configuration Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3466 tcsh, csh  tcsh, csh should use update-al Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3467 cern-httpd cern-httpd curious message     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3468 textfm, te textfm and texlib file conflic Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3469 lynx       lynx default home page         Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3470 apache     apache problems                Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3475 xpaint     xpaint Recommends pbmplus      Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3476 cnews      cnews description is gibberish Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3477 cnews, ine cnews and inews should be same Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3478 bind       bind should use lowercase `non Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3480 mkisofs    missing information in manpage Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3483 enscript   using args with spaces in gens (unknown -- `enscript')
  3486 cern-httpd forwarded message from Cron Da Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3488 rootdisk   basedisks modconf problems     Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3489 rootdisk   basedisks configuration proble Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3490 adduser    adduser password-setting probl Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3491 rootdisk   basedisks newly booted system  Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3493 base       Teles ISDN card installation b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3495 npasswd_bo doesn't respect nis/yp         Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3497 smail      smail calls obsolete yp_order  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3503 uucp       still a.out (and src doesn't b dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3505 bind       ndc does not use start-stop-da Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3507 bind       named postinst mangled my conf Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3508 guile      guile doesn't have right permi Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3509 ucbmpeg    mpeg_play puts bogus statistic Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3510 nas        removal of nas doesn't kill 'a Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3511 debianutil typo on installkernel man page Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3514 dialog     Required package modconf depen Leland Lucius <llucius@millcomm
  3515 gdb        gdb prints corrupted message   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3516 kernel     SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can ca Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3517 inn        innd won't remove syslog.conf  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3521 mc         mc core dumps                  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3525 j1         j1 hard-linked docs/manpages   (unknown -- `j')
  3529 ftp.debian libgr and zlib1 collide, but d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3533 rc         Problems encountered while bui Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3535 taper      Problems encountered while bui Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3538 bash       bash on m68k doesn't use ncurs Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3539 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if an error occu Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3540 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a problem occ Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3541 libc5      rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED! (unknown -- `libc')
  3542 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3543 git        Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3544 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3545 pgp-i      Problems encountered while com Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3547 mc         Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3548 acm        acm description: no ext        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3550 amstex     amstex description: no ext     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3551 automake   automake description: summary  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3552 aout-binut aout-binutils description: no  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3553 aout-librl aout-librl description: no ext Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3554 bdflush    bdflush description: summary s Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3557 base       base description: no ext       Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3558 beav       beav description: ext extra sp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3559 acs        acs description: no ext        adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3561 bash       bash description: no ext       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3562 elviscmn   elviscmn description: no ext   sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  3565 dbview     dbview description: ext extra  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3566 dejagnu    dejagnu description: summary s Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3567 byacc      byacc description: no ext      dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3568 bin86      bin86 description: no ext      (unknown -- `bin')
  3569 emacs-el   emacs-el description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3571 fortune    fortune description: summary s dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3572 dld        dld description: ext start ind gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3573 diald      diald description: ext start b Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  3574 binutils   binutils description: no ext   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3575 boot-flopp boot-floppies description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3578 dlltools   dlltools description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3582 electric-f electric-fence description: no Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  3583 fort77     fort77 description: no ext     (unknown -- `fort')
  3584 g77        g77 description: ext start ind (unknown -- `g')
  3586 findutils  findutils description: no ext  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3587 gnuplot    gnuplot description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3588 git        git description: ext extra spa Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3590 libjpeg6a  libjpeg6a description: ext sta (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3592 ipx        ipx description: no ext        mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3594 gwm        gwm description: no ext        Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3595 grep       grep description: no ext       Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  3596 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3598 ghostview  ghostview description: ext sta Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3599 gdb        gdb description: no ext        David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3601 minicom    minicom description: no ext    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3606 lynx       lynx description: ext extra sp Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3607 rc         rc description: no ext         Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3608 libjpeg6a- libjpeg6a-dev description: no  (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3609 shellutils shellutils description: no ext daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3610 xfntcyr    xfntcyr description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3611 libwww-per libwww-perl description: no ex Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3612 libdb1     libdb1 description: no ext     (unknown -- `libdb')
  3613 mh-papers  mh-papers description: no ext  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3616 less       less description: ext extra sp Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3617 mawk       mawk description: ext extra sp Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3620 most       most description: summary star Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3621 lxtools    lxtools description: no ext    Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3626 libg++27   libg++27 description: no ext   (unknown -- `libg++')
  3628 modconf    modconf description: no ext    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3629 pmake      pmake description: no ext      Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3630 ncpfs      ncpfs description: summary sta mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3631 oleo       oleo description: no ext       Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3632 nis        nis description: summary start Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3635 pcb        pcb description: no ext        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3637 w3-el      w3-el description: no ext      (unknown -- `w')
  3638 setserial  setserial description: no ext  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3640 tkdesk     tkdesk description: ext start  Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3641 unarj      unarj description: ext start i Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.a
  3642 syslinux   syslinux description: no ext   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3643 taper      taper description: no ext      Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3644 procmail   procmail description: no ext   Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3645 slang-deve slang-devel description: ext e Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3647 timezone   timezone description: summary  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3649 win32libs  win32libs description: no ext  (unknown -- `win')
  3650 xfntbig    xfntbig description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3651 win32gcc   win32gcc description: no ext   (unknown -- `win')
  3653 win32binut win32binutils description: no  (unknown -- `win')
  3654 xcoral     xcoral description: summary st Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3655 wenglish   wenglish description: no ext   Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3657 xfnt100    xfnt100 description: no ext    (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3661 xlib       xlib description: no ext       Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3662 xslib      xslib description: no ext      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3663 xfntscl    xfntscl description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3664 workbone   workbone description: no ext   dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3665 xfnt75     xfnt75 description: no ext     (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3670 idanish    idanish description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3671 dosemu     dosemu description: no ext     Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3672 idutch     idutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3673 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@master
  3675 xwpe       xwpe description: no ext       dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3677 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3678 xxgdb      xxgdb description: no ext      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3680 auto-pgp   auto-pgp description: ext star Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3682 wswedish   wswedish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3684 rsynth     rsynth description: summary st Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3687 wfrench    wfrench description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3688 wnorwegian wnorwegian description: no ext jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3691 witalian   witalian description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3697 wdutch     wdutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3698 wspanish   wspanish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3699 xpaint     xpaint description: summary st Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3700 www.debian Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3703 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a permission  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3704 dpkg       Weird dselect behavior (bug?)  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3705 procmail   procmail does close(-1)        Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3707 elm        Problems encountered while com Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3711 uucp       Problems encountered while com dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3712 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3713 p2c        Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `p')
  3714 term       Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3717 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3718 ash        Problems encountered while com Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3720 sysvinit   shutdown prints "You don't exi Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3721 termcap-co Problems while compiling "term Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  3725 man        Another data point on apropos  Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3726 ed         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3727 bc         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3730 xbase      improper lookup of window mana Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3734 xbase et a X11 problems                   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3735 cern-httpd cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn o Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3737 xosview    xosview uses -O3 -f...         joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3739 man        `man -l -' for stdin doesn't w Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3740 modconf    A couple of problems popped up Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3742 tcpdump    tcpdump doesn't notice icmp pa Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3743 netpbm     Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3747 setserial  "setserial" doesn't support mu Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3748 fvwm       Pixmaps missing from fvwm pack Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3750 xserver-s3 X server inaccessible sometime (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  3751 xbase      xconsole stops logging when sy Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3752 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3753 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3754 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3755 xaw3d      xaw3d shouldn't automatically  (unknown -- `xaw')
  3756 sendmail   sendmail has wrong path to pro Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3759 ghostview  xxgdb and ghostview have bad M Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3761 lilo       LILO installation problem      Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3762 setserial  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usuall Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3765 dpkg       dpkg and kernel-* package name Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3766 man        "man" acting too smart.        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3770 perl       dodgy `\n' in perl postinst    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3772 lilo       lilo should not depend on MBR  Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3773 xless      xless default window too thin  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3775 login      upgrading login temporarily br Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3782 bsdmainuti GNU nm breaks lorder           Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3784 perl       perl does not install on base  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3785 perl       perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") an Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3786 base       base includes anonymous ftp ac Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3787 tin        tin uses /etc/news/description Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3788 man        `apropos' matches only word-su Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3789 mbr        `mbr' package doesn't say how  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3791 cfingerd   Problems with "cfingerd" when  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3792 netpbm     Problems with "netpbm" when co Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3793 pmake      bsd.lib.mk incompatible with G Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3794 adduser    adduser should not be essentia Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3798 passwd     passwd should not be essential Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3799 timezone   timezone should not be essenti Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3800 setserial  setserial should not be essent Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3801 ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0 should not be essen (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3803 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3804 npasswd-bo npasswd-boulder doesn't change Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3805 base       /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3808 ppp        ppp postinst gives error       Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3809 base       /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still aro Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3812 apsfilter  Apsfilter should depend on fil Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3814 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3815 bsdutils   "ndc stats" fails              Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3816 uucp       uucp is still a.out            dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3818 fortune    fortune is still a.out !       dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3823 gdb        Gdb's `handle' command behavio David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3824 exmh       exmh fails to start            Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  3825 libc5      %p either misbehaves or misdoc (unknown -- `libc')
  3827 tk40       Tk4.0's bell flashes the displ (unknown -- `tk')
  3829 ncurses-bi tic.1 refers to unavailable in Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3830 ncurses-bi captoinfo confused by /etc/ter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3832 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3833 nis        Manual pages for some yp* prog Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3834 squid      squid core dumps regularly     Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3835 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3837 xv         Why isn't xv linked with the l Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3838 gcc        GCC should depend on CPP, not  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3839 autoconf   autoconf wants `nawk'          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3842 tkdesk, tk tkdesksh grows really large    Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3843 ncurses-ba dselect resets automargins in  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3845 compface   invalid directories in compfac Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3846 lynx       lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3847 perl       Perl & G++                     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3848 a2gs       "a2gs" requires changes to sup (unknown -- `a')
  3849 acm        "acm" requires changes to supp Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3850 cern-httpd "cern-httpd" requires changes  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3851 acs        "acs" requires changes to supp adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3852 cnews      "cnews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3853 dld        "dld" requires changes to supp gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3855 fortune    "fortune" requires changes to  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3856 guile      "guile" requires changes to su Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3857 xcontrib   listres dumps core             Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3861 adduser    when adduser runs finger it di Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3862 inews      "inews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3865 j1         "j1" requires changes to suppo (unknown -- `j')
  3866 hdparm     "hdparm" requires changes to s Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  3869 nntp       "nntp" requires changes to sup Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3870 p2c        "p2c" requires changes to supp (unknown -- `p')
  3872 pcb        "pcb" requires changes to supp Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3873 xosview    Xosview hangs when a dummy net joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3874 perl       Archive of perl 5.003-2 is bro Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3875 lynx       Lynx thinks *.deb files are "t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3876 cron       checksecurity shouldn't search Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3877 svgalib1-d /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  3878 adduser    adduser --home aborts if dir e Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3879 adduser    adduser: man page has '=V' str Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3881 rspfd      "rspfd" requires changes to su Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3885 umsdos     "umsdos' requires changes to s Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3886 tf         "tf" requires changes to suppo Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3888 workbone   "workbone" requires changes to dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3890 uucp       "uucp" requires changes to sup dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3892 rootdisk   mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbo Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3895 mgetty, ne file conflicts: mgetty vs netp Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3896 mgetty     /sbin/mgetty is not world-read Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3897 mgetty     mgetty syslogs with priority ` Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3898 mgetty     mgetty has bogus errno in usag Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3899 mgetty     mgetty doesn't remove logfiles Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3900 mgetty     mgetty doesn't work            Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3902 base       base disks' network configurat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3904 ncurses3.0 ncurses on mono linux console  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3905 base       base disks still install part  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3906 xbase      Errors in the Compose file for Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3908 perl       perl h2ph problem              Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

Submitted in the last month:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3911 a2ps       "a2ps" requires changes for mu (unknown -- `a')
  3912 wnorwegian "wnorwegian" requires changes  jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3913 idanish    "idanish" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3914 wdutch     "wdutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3915 biff       "biff" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3917 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3921 kpathsea   "kpathsea" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3922 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3923 witalian   "witalian" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3925 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  3926 wspanish   "wspanish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3927 wfrench    "wfrench" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3928 wswedish   "wswedish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3930 giftrans   "giftrans" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3931 idutch     "idutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3932 rsynth     "rsynth" requires changes for  Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3936 uucp       uutraf dumps core in gmtime()  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3937 uucp       uutraf has repeated words in m dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3939 man        /etc/manpath.config is not a c Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3940 apache     Apache's default index.html sa Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3942 tin        tin cannot find Newsgroup Desc Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3944 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  3950 inn        INN message size limitation to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3952 less       Less annoyances                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3953 tk41       Tk 4.1's bell flashes the disp (unknown -- `tk')
  3954 xcontrib   xload dont needs tu run suid   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3955 bison      yacc script uses $* instead of Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  3961 zoo        14 character file name limit i Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3962 pixmap     Pixmap "calloc" problem        joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3963 abuse      abuse                          Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3966 bind       nslookup: fatal flex scanner i Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3967 nvi        hex codes instead of 8-bit cha Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3968 rootdisk   installation checks for CD-ROM Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3969 apache     Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole     Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3970 cvs        cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3973 ncurses-bi Home/End keys don't work right Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3974 ncurses3.0 problem with arrow keys in dse (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3975 netpbm     netpbm is mostly free          Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3978 lists.debi problem (re)subscribing to deb Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3980 netstd     netstd many compiler warnings  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3983 base       Wrong entry in /etc/group      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3984 libc5      NIS writes error message to ST (unknown -- `libc')
  3986 base       inconsistency between base and Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3988 kbd        Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard m Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3989 procps     `w' produces corrupted output  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3990 xbase      xdm-errors location not what F Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3991 dpkg       dselect has confusing and biza Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3993 mount      users can't umount user mounts Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3994 base       ae won't deinstall             Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3999 kernel     nfs module fails to load       Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  4000 emacs      emacs can't initialize x windo Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4002 base       base wipes out utmp & wtmp     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4004 syslinux   procinfo breaks without module Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4005 lynx       Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *. Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4008 cvs        CVS texinfo docs won't format  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4009 base       /bin/edit causes error after a Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4011 gcc        simple c++ program segfaults   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4012 xbase      xbase: `window-managers' was u Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4013 groff      groff version is old           Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  4014 netpbm     netpbm is missing manual pages Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4015 xbase      xterm & xterm.color sets broke Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4016 elvisctags ref not in elvisctags          sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4017 bootdisk   boot disk doesn't recognize NC Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4019 Boot1440.b Decompression failure on Insta (unknown -- `boot')
  4020 base       Base shouldn't contain /var/ru Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4021 auctex     "auctex" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4023 mgt        "mgt" requires changes for mul Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com
  4024 cvs        "cvs" requires changes for mul Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4026 pcb        "pcb" requires changes for mul Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4027 xless      "xless" requires changes for m Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4028 motifnls   "motifnls" requires changes fo Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4030 sam        "sam" requires changes for mul Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  4031 vm         "vm" requires changes for mult Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4032 rxvt       "rxvt" requires changes for mu Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4033 xosview    "xosview" requires changes for joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4034 elv-vi     "elvis" requires changes for m sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4035 xbmbrowser "xbmbrowser" requires changes  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4036 xcontrib   "xcontrib" requires changes fo Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4037 xtel       "xtel" requires changes for mu Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4038 untex      "untex" requires changes for m Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  4040 x10        "x10" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `x')
  4041 xtrlock    "xtrlock" requires changes for Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4042 unclutter  "unclutter" requires changes f dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  4043 xearth     "xearth" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4044 tkined     "tkined" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4045 electric-f "electric-fence" requires chan Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  4046 xpaste     "xpaste" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4047 makeindex  "makeindex" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4048 dosemu     access permissions for /usr/bi Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4051 fdutils    access permissions for /usr/bi Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.o
  4052 bison      access permissions for /usr/bi Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4053 dosemu     a) still a.out b) script: i ha Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4056 xserver-s3 mouse cursor in X3 server is c (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4060 boot       Kernel decompression failure.  (unknown -- `boot')
  4061 timezone   Debian                         Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  4062 procps     running ps as root does not re Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4064 sendmail   sendmail should recommend deli Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4065 sendmail   FEATURE(local_procmail) needs  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4066 xserver-s3 strangeness with X3 server     (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4067 Umsdos     Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.    Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  4068 perl-tk    pgs in perl-tk does not work   Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  4069 slrn       slrn gives error               Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4071 hyperlatex ps2gif has incorrect pathname  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4072 cpio       cpio package is missing rmt.8  Brian Mays <brian@debian.org>
  4073 make       make pattern rules delete inte Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilg
  4074 dpkg       problems with 1.1 release      Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4075 lrzsz      Possible security problem with Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  4081 xosview    xosview doesn't install a bina joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4082 fvwm       No documentation for fvwm modu Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4084 tar        New tar may be broken.         Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
  4085 sendmail   /etc/init.d/sendmail does not  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4086 netstd     rsh segfaults with baudrate=11 Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4087 xcontrib   xgc dumps core                 Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4088 ghostview  ghostview does not put filenam Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4089 base       problems with rc.local         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4091 netstd     Ftp does not wait for user ans Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4092 procmail   procmail docs not owned by roo Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  4093 dpkg       start-stop-daemon fails to kil Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4096 abuse      abuse is still a.out           Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  4097 smail      smail cron jobs don't test if  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4100 pixmap     pixmap dumps core (bad depth?) joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4101 xpostitplu xpostitplus loses previous pos Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  4102 sp         sp and LaTeX problems          Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net>
  4103 slrn       slrn epends on unavailable sla Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4104 ghostview  ghostview does not obey %%Boun Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4105 xterm-colo making slrn work in a color xt Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  4107 emacs      emacs leaves stale lockfiles a Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4109 gs         "gs" requires changes for mult joost witteveen <joostje@master
  4110 g77        "g77" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `g')
  4112 postgres95 "postgres95" requires changes  (unknown -- `postgres')
  4114 xasteroids "xasteroids" requires changes  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4115 xcoral     "xcoral" requires changes for  Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4116 xpaint     "xpaint" requires changes for  Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  4117 xwpe       "xwpe" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  4118 xosview    xosview doesn't use XUSERFILES joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4120 netstd     rdist & ssh                    Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4121 ppp        ppp setup bug (postinst?)      Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4123 gnuchess   "gnuchess" requires changes fo Nikhil Nair <nnair@debian.org>
  4124 xmanpages  typo in XtOpenApplication manp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4125 libpaper   libpaper should ask for papers Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4126 ssh        ssh & gpm                      (unknown -- `ssh')
  4127 uucp       uucp uses /usr/spool           dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4128 diald      ppp/diald interaction          Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vaca
  4130 xcompat    Old motif applications don't r Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4131 base       majordom -- 30 or 31?          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4132 netstd     Could popclient be changed to  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4133 samba      Samba goes into busy loop?     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4138 libpaper   libpaper /usr/bin/paper is lik Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4139 libpaper   libpaper /etc/papersize is aut Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4140 dosemu     dosemu package is lacking its  Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4141 rsynth     "say" is an a.out binary       Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  4142 fortune    strfile, unstr are a.out binar dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4143 fortune    fortune is an a.out binary     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4146 cfingerd   cfingerd incorrectly says [MSG Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  4147 mount      [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linu Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4149 base(?)    /etc/resolv.conf gets bad conf (unknown -- `base(')
  4151 smail      /etc/cron.daily/smail not remo Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4152 procps     psupdate writes /etc/psdatabas Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4154 shellutils `echo' provides no way to unpa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  4156 rpncalc    rpncalc has unexecutable unwri David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  4157 ptx        `permutated' is not a word     Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4158 pine       pine does not lock mailbox pro Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4159 xcoral     xcoral dies                    Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4160 mosaic, xs Mosaic caused X to become unre Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4162 zircon     stack trace                    Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4163 sysklogd   syslogd loops                  Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4164 ferret     Ferret extended description ha Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.co
  4165 lclint     LCLint extended description ha Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4166 mosaic     Mosaic extended description ha Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4169 pixmap     pixmap dies                    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4170 vlock      vlock can make the system unus Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4171 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4172 wg15-local "wg15-locale" requires changes (unknown -- `wg')
  4173 xbase      xdm stop-script should use --p Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4174 latex      Unable to use 'dc' fonts in la Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4178 less       silly problem with less        Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  4180 bash       bash has duplicate examples    Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4181 nn         Searching for wrong active fil Mike Coleman <coleman@chez-gnu.
  4182 grep       grep on /proc/kcore dumps core Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  4183 netpbm     Typo in netpbm setup           Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4184 netdiag    "netdiag" requires changes for Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4185 mgetty     "mgetty" requires changes for  Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4186 xfishtank  "xfishtank" requires changes f Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4187 zircon     "zircon" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4188 ldso       ldd never gives non-zero exit  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4190 libc5      moderate security hole in teln (unknown -- `libc')
  4191 latex      Latex_2e-7 has redundant files Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4192 man        "input in flex scanner failed" Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4193 manpages-d German Manpages                Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  4195 dpkg       dpkg-source and new tar packag Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4201 doc-debian doc-debian `bug-reporting.txt' Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4202 dpkg       dpkg chainsaw massacre         Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4203 sendmail   sendmail does not install if / Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4204 cron       cron does not install if /usr/ Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  4205            bind does not reinstall if /us (unknown)
  4206 perl       Perl `pod' documentation shoul Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  4207 man        man sends "No manual entry" er Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4208 amsfonts   "amsfonts" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4209 xdvik      "xdvik" requires changes for m Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4210 amstex     "amstex" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4211 dviljk     "dviljk" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4212 pandora    "pandora" requires changes for Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4213 mh         "mh" requires changes for mult Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  4214 oldgerman  "oldgerman" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4215 zircon     "zircon" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4216 amslatex   "amslatex" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4217 ?          "ps2pk" requires changes for m (unknown)
  4218 inn        Problems removing INN          Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4220 ghostview  ghostview and /etc/papersize   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4221            knews silently overwrites conf (unknown)
  4222 bind       dig in the wrong package?      Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4223 mosaic     Mosaic looks bad on mono displ Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4224 mosaic     Mosaic produces poor rendering Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4225 lynx       lynx fails to substitute %XX i Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4226 mosaic     Mosaic fails to substitute %XX Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4227 tin        Tin  TIN_NOVROOTDIR wrong valu Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  4228 sysklogd   syslogd loops                  Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4229 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/skeleton is missin Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4230 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/network is an auto Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4231 manpages   acct(2) man page refers to non Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  4232 bison      bison dumps core               Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4233 xbase      startx does not initialize X c Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4234 kernel-pac errors in /usr/man/man8/make-k Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debi
  4235 dpkg       cpp, gcc, dpkg                 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4236 netstd     ftp(1) barfs on QUOTE command  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4237 lpr        lpd remote printing problem    Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4238 mirror     mirror requires perl           Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@qed.econ
  4239 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser recommends pbmplus  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4240 gs         mfdcfnt setup error            joost witteveen <joostje@master
  4241 dpkg-ftp   Connect with nothing to do     awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  4242 9term      9term doesn't have a terminal  (unknown)
  4243 9term      9term leaves mouse droppings   (unknown)
  4244 9term      9term package missing 'label'  (unknown)
  4245 bash       S-96-48: Vulnerability in "bas Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4246 binutils   binutils calls ldconfig in pre David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4247 e2fsprogs  e2fsprogs calls ldconfig in pr (unknown -- `e')
  4248 procps     procps calls ldconfig in prerm Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4249 xlib       xlib calls ldconfig in prerm/p Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4250 xcompat    xcompat calls ldconfig in prer Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4251 libpaper   libpaper calls ldconfig in pre Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4252 libgpm1    libgpm1 calls ldconfig in prer (unknown -- `libgpm')
  4254 msqld      msql config problems           Martin Schulze <joey@office.ind
  4255 ftp.debian update buzz-updates/Removed, d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>

The listing by package maintainer is posted every Wednesday,
and the listing by age of the report every Friday.

Please see the documentation for more information about how to
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sorry to take so long to reply to this...i've been too busy at work to
even check my mailing lists.

On 8 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:

> > discussion so far has concentrated on this. This will require
> > massive changes to the system so that binaries know how to use the
> > default
>
> I'd really prefer if people don't put up straw men to attack a
> proposal.

1. i wasn't attacking ANY proposal.  I happen to think that /etc/default is
a great idea.

2. As mentioned in my message, i was concentrating on a side of the
issue which seemed to be being ignored: boot time configuration rather
than run-time defaults.

> Nowhere at all has the /etc/default proposal asked for massive changes
> to the system.
>
> Nowhere at all has someone asked that tar be changed to support
> /etc/default/tar.

tar was just one example.

how is tar going to get its default options from /etc/default/tar if it
isn't hacked to read that file?

making changes to many programs to enable them to read /etc/default/*
files seems to me to qualify as 'massive changes to the system'.


> >     - a defined standard for how /etc/init.d scripts should use this
> >       information.  e.g. source the file or:
> >
> >               sed -n -e '/^NEWS_SERVER=/s/\([^=]*\)=\(.*\)/\2/p'
> 
> Why not simply source it?

sourcing it is good. however, people seem to be shifting towards using
perl rather than sh...sourcing a sh script in perl isn't going to be
terribly useful.

a file containing "token=value" lines, can be sourced by sh or the
values can be easily extracted in just about any language.


> Oh, I forgot - you lumped all of /etc/default together in one file.
> 
> Unnecessary complication. Besides, it makes for name clashes.

To tell the truth, it doesn't bother me too much whether there is one
file containing all configuration information or multiple files...if
debian ends up with multiple files in /etc/default, i'll just create a
Makefile & set of m4 rules to generate them all from a single file.

This will allow me to create my own config_info package which contains
the configuration defaults for all packages I'm interested in. Then,
when I build a new debian machine I can install my config_info package
just after installing base, but before installing the rest of the
system....

Craig


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On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Chris Fearnley wrote:

> Previously, I have tested mawk on the base disks and had no trouble.
> But I recommend that others try this --- just to make sure.  Any
> suggestions on what we should do with the extra 300K on the base
> disks?

888     888 8888888    888 888 888 
888     888   888      888 888 888 
888     888   888      888 888 888 
Y88b   d88P   888      888 888 888 
 Y88b d88P    888      888 888 888 
  Y88o88P     888      Y8P Y8P Y8P 
   Y888P      888       "   "   "  
    Y8P     8888888    888 888 888 
                                   
                                   

Craig



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I think having PPP and SLIP work out of the box would be a better use of the
space.

	Bruce

> From: Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
> To: Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
> On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Chris Fearnley wrote:
> 
> > Previously, I have tested mawk on the base disks and had no trouble.
> > But I recommend that others try this --- just to make sure.  Any
> > suggestions on what we should do with the extra 300K on the base
> > disks?
> 
> 888     888 8888888    888 888 888 
> 888     888   888      888 888 888 
> 888     888   888      888 888 888 
> Y88b   d88P   888      888 888 888 
>  Y88b d88P    888      888 888 888 
>   Y88o88P     888      Y8P Y8P Y8P 
>    Y888P      888       "   "   "  
>     Y8P     8888888    888 888 888 


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>I think having PPP and SLIP work out of the box would be a better use of the
>space.

Personally, I'd vote for vi before slip and ppp.  I still can't
believe the number of problems I've had with ae (having trusted it
since it decided I wanted ^Ms in my doc), and how annoying it
is the number of times things try to call 'ae' unless I remember to
export EDITOR first.


-- 
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bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu			University of MN, ME Dept
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From: Richard Kaszeta <kaszeta@me.umn.edu>
> Personally, I'd vote for vi before slip and ppp. I still can't
> believe the number of problems I've had with ae (having trusted it
> since it decided I wanted ^Ms in my doc), and how annoying it
> is the number of times things try to call 'ae' unless I remember to
> export EDITOR first.

The problem is that not every user wants "vi" - I think Debian supports
13 editors in all. AE's only virtues are that it is small and can be
understood (and yes, instantly hated) by all users. It's only there to
be used for as long as it takes you to install your favorite editor.

Shouldn't the setting of $EDITOR be in your .login or .profile?

	Thanks

	Bruce


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Package: shellutils
Version: 1.12-5

When tee has stdout going to a pipe and the named file going to an
ordinary file, if the pipe is closed before tee has written everything,
it does not write everything to the named file.

If tee's stdout is a file, but it can't write everything to stdout, it
will still write everything to the named file. The pipe case should work
like this as well.

I've been having some problems with truncated mail. This was the cause.

 1  $ ls -l /usr/dict/english 
 2  -rw-r--r--   1 root     root       409048 Mar  1 12:45 /usr/dict/english
 3  $ cat /usr/dict/english | tee output > /dev/full
 4  tee: standard output: No space left on device
 5  [status 1]
 6  $ ls -l output
 7  -rw-r--r--   1 liw      liw        409048 Aug 24 07:59 output
 8  $ cat /usr/dict/english | tee output | cat > /dev/full
 9  cat: write error: No space left on device
10  Broken pipe
11  [status 1]
12  $ ls -l output
13  -rw-r--r--   1 liw      liw          8192 Aug 24 07:59 output
14  $ 

Line 2 shows the input file (about 400 kB). Lines 3-7 show what happens
when tee fails to write to the standard output, when it is going to the
special device /dev/full (all writes to /dev/full return ENOSPC). Note
that the file `output' is identical to the input file, even though output
to stdout failed.

Lines 8-13 show what happens when the output goes to a pipe, and the
other end of the pipe is closed before tee has written everything. Note
that the file `output' is smaller than the input.

I can't see anything obviously wrong with the code.

-- 
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Package: modules
Version: 2.0.0-8

(Note that I wrote this report regarding 2.0.0-2.  As I fix the
problem when I notice it, it could concievably have been fixed,
but looking at /var/lib/dpkg/info/modules.conffiles (I think) it
appears to not be.)

The modules packages contains a file /sbin/request-route.  This is run by
the kernel to create routes as needed.

The script's comments suggest is it very configurable, and I usually
configure it heavily .. however it is written over whenever I install a new
version of the package it is in (dpkg -S shows it as modules).

I propose this file be a conffile, and that the user be prompted to replace
it or not.

Thanks.

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Package: kbd
Version: 0.91-4

The kbd package config utility has a script called kbdconfig which can be
run to configure keyboard mapping and soft fonts.  These settings are used
on boot by a script /etc/rc.boot/0kbd from a config file /etc/kbd/config.

Some of the fonts have multiple sizes (972.cp for example).  When such a
font is selected, it is necessary to select which size is desired, for
example (setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/972.cp -16) would specify size
16.

When such a font is selected by kbdconfig, no mechanism is provided to set
the font size in the boot script, so the font is not loaded.

# setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/972.cp
This file contains 3 fonts: 8x8, 8x14 and 8x16. Please indicate
using an option -8 or -14 or -16 which one you want loaded.
#

I am using kernel 2.0.0, Debian 1.1 (unstable tree circa Jun 22 1996), and
libc5.2.18-8 and libc4.6.27-15.

----------------
I have made changes to the /usr/sbin/kbdconfig script to poll the user for
the font size if it is needed (and to save it in the config file), and to
ask the user if they want to enable the configuration when the script
completes.

I have also changed the /etc/rc.boot/0kbd file to use the font size value.

These are the patches ... I'm not familiar enough with diff/patch to give a
full-directory patch of the changes, so I am diff'ing them seperately.


----------> /etc/rc.boot/0kbd

--- 0kbd.old	Tue Jun 25 23:44:33 1996
+++ 0kbd.new	Tue Jun 25 23:44:11 1996
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
 	TERM=linux
 	KEYMAP=""
 	SOFTFONT=""
+	SIZE=""
 fi
 
 echo "Console setup:"
@@ -35,5 +36,5 @@
 if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" -a "$SOFTFONT" != "NONE" ]
 then
 	echo -n " "
-	setfont $SOFTFONT
+	setfont $SOFTFONT $SIZE
 fi


---------> /usr/sbin/kbconfig

--- kbdconfig.old	Tue Jun 25 23:45:22 1996
+++ kbdconfig.new	Wed Jun 26 00:00:50 1996
@@ -88,24 +88,101 @@
 	fi
 fi
 
+
+while [ x$fontok != xyes ]
+do
+
 cat << EOT
 
 Please choose one of the following display fonts for the VT devices:
 --------------------------------------------------------------------
 EOT
-(cd $LIBDIR/consolefonts; ls -x)
+	(cd $LIBDIR/consolefonts; ls -x)
+
+	echo -e "\nOr answer NONE to skip the loading of a consolefont."
+	echo -n "What consolefont to load? [$SOFTFONT] "; read softfont
+	if [ -z "$softfont" ]
+	then
+		if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" ]
+		then
+			softfont=$SOFTFONT
+		else
+			softfont=NONE
+		fi
+	fi
+
+# NOTE: We have no way of detecting whether the font makes the screen
+# unreadable or correctly loads;  I know of no way to test if the 
+# font requires a size parameter except to test the program for
+# failure, so we must test for existence of font. -- KMB
 
-echo -e "\nOr answer NONE to skip the loading of a consolefont."
-echo -n "What consolefont to load? [$SOFTFONT] "; read softfont
-if [ -z "$softfont" ]
-then
-	if [ -n "$SOFTFONT" ]
+	bname=$LIBDIR/consolefonts/$softfont
+
+	# Add a default ending if necessary
+
+	[ ! -e $bname -a -e $bname.cp ] && softfont=$softfont.cp
+	[ ! -e $bname -a -e $bname.psf ] && softfont=$softfont.psf
+	
+	if [ ! -e $LIBDIR/consolefonts/$softfont ]
+	then
+		if [ $softfont != NONE ]
+ 		then
+			echo
+			echo Font $softfont not found, setting to NONE.
+			softfont=NONE
+		fi
+	fi
+
+	if [ $softfont != NONE ]
 	then
-		softfont=$SOFTFONT
+		echo ; echo Testing font ... ; echo
+		sleep 2
+		setfont $softfont || SIZE=err
+
+		if [ $SIZE != err ]
+		then
+			sleep 5
+			setfont &> /dev/null
+			echo
+			echo If that font is unacceptable, please
+			echo rerun this script \($0\).
+		fi
 	else
-		softfont=NONE
+		SIZE=NONE
 	fi
-fi
+
+	if [ $SIZE = err ]
+	then
+		echo
+		echo -n "Please enter the font size: "
+		read SIZE
+		if [ $SIZE != NONE ]
+		then
+			echo $SIZE | grep "-" &> /dev/null || SIZE=-$SIZE
+		fi
+
+		echo ; echo Testing font ... ; echo
+		sleep 2
+		setfont $softfont $SIZE || SIZE=err
+
+		if [ $SIZE != err ]
+		then
+			sleep 5
+			setfont &> /dev/null
+			echo
+			echo If that font \(or size\) is unacceptable,
+			echo please rerun this script \($0\).
+		fi
+		
+	fi
+
+	echo
+
+	if [ $SIZE != err ]
+	then
+		fontok=yes
+	fi
+done;
 
 # ##### NOT YET ... #####
 #if [ -n "$advanced_flag"  ]
@@ -117,12 +194,27 @@
 #	echo -n "Should the METABIT flag be set by default [$METABIT]: "; read numlock
 #fi
 
+[ $SIZE = NONE ] && unset SIZE
+
 echo -n  "Generating $CONFFILE... "
 cat > $CONFFILE << EOT
 CONSOLE=$consdev
 TERM=$termtyp
 KEYMAP=$keymap
 SOFTFONT=$softfont
+SIZE=$SIZE
 EOT
 echo "done."
+
+echo
+echo The settings have been saved and will be used automatically
+echo the next time the system boots.  If you want, I can enable 
+echo these settings now.
+echo
+echo -n "Do you want to enable these settings now? [y/N] "
+read immediate
+[ $immediate = y ] || [ $immediate = Y ] || [ $immediate = yes ] \
+	&& echo ; echo Okay, enabling ... ; echo ; /etc/rc.boot/0kbd
+echo
+
 exit 0


-------------------------------

(Obviously change this in any way you want, all rights
UN-reserved ;)

The only thing I don't like about these changes is that kbdconfig runs
setfont to determine if the font needs a size specified.  I don't know if
this could cause problems or not (ie on old vga/ega/cga/mga/hgc whatever),
but:

1) I don't see this as -introducing- a problem, since it only does it if you
specify a font, in which case that font would load on next boot anyway.

2) It does restore a hopefully readable default font after allowing the font
to be viewed, thus guarding against an (is this a possibility?) unviewable
font from being configured and going unnoticed.

In other words, it looks like a feature to me.

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Package: ftp.debian.org

It appears to me that some files are incorrectly placed directly in the
buzz-fixed tree, instead of being in buzz-updates with appropriate
symlinks in buzz-fixed... all on master.debian.org.

The files in question:

	buzz-fixed/source/manpages-de_0.1-4.tar.gz
	buzz-fixed/source/mount_2.5k-1.diff.gz
	buzz-fixed/source/mount_2.5k-1.tar.gz
	buzz-fixed/source/manpages-de_0.1-4.diff.gz

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Hello,

I'll upload libpaper_1.0-2 as soon as possible. It fixes the actual bugs
and contains a TODO file in doc/ explaining what I'd like to make in a
future release. If you're interested in paper size handling, please read
this file and comment on it.

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Date: 24 Aug 96 09:24 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org>
Source: libpaper
Version: 1.0.1-1
Binary:  libpaper
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 libpaper: Library for handling paper characteristics
Changes:
  * Corrected bug #4139 (/etc/papersize was a conffile modified by
      scripts) and added paperconfig(8).
  * Renamed paper(1) to paperconf(1) (fixes bugs #4137 and #4138).
  * Removed postrm which called ldconfig(8) (fixes bug #4251).
  * Added TODO file.
Files:
 69c338e7c59935fd32f06559b7d504b8  57581  text  -  libpaper_1.0.1-1.tar.gz
 45a063527e85f4963821532ddb6f74f2  27900  text  optional  libpaper_1.0.1-1_i386.deb

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On Aug 14,  3:39am, Ian Jackson wrote:
} Subject: Bug#4138: libpaper /usr/bin/paper is likely to have name clashes
} Package: libpaper
} Version: 1.0-1
} 
} I suggest that this binary be renamed `papersize'.

I've renamed it `paperconf' because it will not handle just the size
of papers but other attributes like color, weigth etc in the future.
In addition to that we're really talking about paper names, not sizes.

Yves.


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On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I think having PPP and SLIP work out of the box would be a better use of the
> space.
> 
Now that sounds great! Is there any way we can get PPP/SLIP into the
boot/root disks? Then the base system could be installed via ftp.

Luck,

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Thomas Koenig writes ("Bug#4202: dpkg chainsaw massacre"):
...
> When I tried to test-install the package, there were a few warnings,
> but dpkg happily overwrote /usr/lib with that particular text file.
> I'll eagerly await what fsck has to say about this.

My apologies.  I have fixed this in dpkg 1.3.9, which I'll release
shortly.

It will now only replace a directory hierarchy with a file if the
directory hierarchy is from a previous instance of the same package,
and isn't anywhere else.

You can force it to go ahead anyway with --force-overwrite-dir, but
you don't want to :-) (and it's not enabled by default, unlike
ordinary --force-overwrite).

Ian.


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Bruce Perens asks me in private email:
> The policy and dpkg programers documents are very good.
> Can you get Ray to put these up on our web site ASAP?

I'd like to, but I think the web site is all confused.  I could be
wrong.  Does Matt Bailey still exist ?  We've been waiting for him for
several months now wrt the move of the WWW tree ...

Anyway, the SGML source to the manual is in the dpkg source package,
and can be converted to whatever format anyone likes using
debiandoc-sgml.

We just need to decide where to put it and in what format.

Ian.


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Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Documentation formats "):
...
> I'm not certain that distributing HTML with the packages and other formats
> separately is a good idea. I think it might be a better idea to continue
> as now and use on-line conversions from man and Info to HTML. Pre-converted
> HTML should be distributed as separate packages.

So you'd rather I put the SGML source for the manuals in the dpkg
binary package, rather than the HTML pre-converted form ?

Conversion of things into HTML is particularly awkward because you end
up with lots of intermediate files.

And, my debiandoc-sgml converters are not exactly fast.  Converting
the dpkg manuals to plain text takes about 5 minutes on my Cx5x86/120
(clock-tripled 40MHz).  This is about 50% of the time it takes to
build a whole new release of dpkg (the HTML converter is much faster).

Ian.


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Raul Miller writes ("Re: Draft manuals (qmail)"):
...
> Perhaps it's reasonable to specify that every mail aware program
> supports the MAIL environmental variable.  As qmail's default behavior
> is to deliver mail to ~user/Mailbox in standard unix mailbox format,
> this should suffice.

But does it use the same locking strategy as our other mailers ?

> Additional recommendations or specifications which open the door to
> maildir compatability (e.g. that movemail be used to retrieve locally
> stored mail -- allowing, at worst, the administrator to set policy by
> replacing movemail) might also be reasonable.

This can't be done sensibly for mailers like mailx, Elm and Pine which
manipulate and leave messages in the inbox, and incurs extra delay
with (eg) mh.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bug#4164: Ferret extended description has blank lines "):
...
> Objections to reporting something as a bug are not founded on this
> concept. No one feels personaly "put down" by a bug report. Those of us
> who object to "trivial" bug reports are more concerned about the
> distribution's public perception. The new user is apt to see a "security"
> bug and a "blanks in description" bug as having equal weight. Large
> numbers of outstanding bugs also leave new users feeling uncertain.

The bug tracking system is for _our_ _internal_ use.  I couldn't care
less if the some idiotic users think that two hundred `missing
description' bug reports are vitally important.

We must not allow bugs to go unreported because they'd end up on the
bug list and so be publicly visible.  That's absurd.

...
> No, the trivial way to reach maintainers is to start with debian-user.

No, because debian-user is a high-traffic mailing list.

The best way to report a trivial problem in package foo is to mail
  To: maintonly@bugs.debian.org
  Subject: ...

  Package: foo

> Case in point:
> Recently a user reported smtp problems with pine. This problem turned out
> to be a configuration issue, unrelated to any functional problems with the
> pine software. By reporting the "bug" on debian-user first, a non-bug bug
> report was avoided.

This is a different matter.  Encouraging people to discuss things that
might or might not be bugs is fine.

Discouraging people from reporting things that definitely are bugs is
not fine.

Ian.


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Maarten Boekhold writes ("exmh and Xauthority"):
...
> # Generate a random key; Mui and Pearce offer a number of alternatives
> # for this.
> randomkey=`perl -e 'srand; printf int(rand(100000000000000000))'`

Do NOT do this.  It results in a weak cookie, meaning that someone
could fairly easily guess your cookie and take over your session and
account.

There are ways of getting a good cookie.  This isn't one.

Ian.


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Rob Browning writes ("Re: Shadow problems"):
> Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> writes:
> 
> > You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files
> > created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory..
> > 
> > But I can see that using newgrp might be more convenient
> 
> Right.  The gid bit trick works fine unless you're running some set of
> commands that may create a bunch of directories.  Then I don't think
> the sgid bit will propagate.

It does.

Ian.


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Milan Zamazal writes ("Packaging questions (newbie)"):
> I'd like to contribute some packages, but I'd like to ask some
> questions first:
> 
> 1. One of these packages is the replacement of `libX11.so'.  Do I have to make
> whole alternative version of appropriate standard X package or is there some
> way to make small "one-file-replacement" package?

Yes.  It's in the manual.

> 3. What and where are (are there?) up-to-date `Debian Packaging Guidelines'?

Install dpkg 1.3.8 and run your favourite web browser on the local
file /usr/doc/dpkg/programmer.html/index.html and
.../policy.html/index.html.

Thanks,
Ian.


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Thomas Koenig writes ("Bug#2475: at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format"):
> Date outputs from 'at' are mandated as
> 
>        date +"%a %b %e %T %Y"
> 
> (i.e. "Wed Aug 14 20:05:13 1996") by the Posix.2a draft I have, which is
> the date used in the upcoming release 3.0 of at(1).
> 
> Yep, that's pretty broken.  If anybody has later, better news, please
> let me know.

Of course if we really do not like it we can use ISO standard date
format (say) and only produce the POSIX-mandated format if
POSIXLY_CORRECT is set or some flag is used.

Ian.


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Yves Arrouye writes ("Re: libpaper 1.0 on master"):
...
> That's what libpaper does: use whatever paper size is in the PAPER env
> var, or if empty whatever name found in the file whose name is in the
> PAPERSIZE env var, or if this var is empty too look in /etc/papersize,
> defaulting to letter (sigh).

Would it be possible to rename this variable PAPERCONF, to correspond
to the new name of the program ?

It seems to me that having an environment variable PAPER is asking for
trouble.

Ian "campaign against namespace pollution" Jackson.


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Michael Meskes writes ("Incorrectly locates packages"):
...
> Also, shouldn't the netscape and compress-package installer be moved to
> contrib, too? I know they are free, but to be of any use you have to get the
> some other software that is not free. So in fact they depend on it. Well at
> least the netscape installer which has no own file to install.

Yes.

Ian.


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Buddha M. D. Buck writes ("Bug#660: GDB gets address wrong of struct member in memory breakpoint"):
> I'm looking at the backlog of forgotten bugs, and have verified that
> this one still exists.
> 
> The original report was for gdb 4.12, but Ian Jackson verified
> that the problem exists under 4.14, and I just verified that it
> exists for 4.15.1-1.
> 
> Should this be forwarded to the upstream maintainers of gdb?  We
> haven't touched this bug since October.

Yes.

Ian.


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Buddha M. D. Buck writes ("Bug#818: echo builtin doesn't check for write errors"):
> As of 1.14.6-4, this bug is still there... maybe
> 
> $ type echo
> echo is a shell builtin
> $ echo foo >/dev/full
> $ echo $?
> 0
> $ cat /dev/zero >/dev/full
> cat: write error: No space left on device
> $ echo $?
> 1
> $ /bin/echo foo >/dev/full
> $ echo $?
> 0
> $ file /bin/echo    
> /bin/echo: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped
> $ 
> 
> The built-in version of echo is faithfull reproducing what the
> binary version does.  
> 
> If they are both in error, should another bug be filed for
> shellutils?  The manpage for echo makes no mention whatsoever
> of return values.

There are already bug reports against shellutils and tcsh too.

All programs should check for write errors.  The fact that the
documentation neglects to say that it does doesn't mean it is OK for
it not to bother.

Ian.


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Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Brian C. White <bcwhite@pobox.com>
Source: dftp
Version: 2.0-1
Binary:  dftp
Architecture:  all source
Description: 
 dftp: Linux "Debian Distribution" Packages Maintainer
 -  The purpose of this program is to make it easy to keep your local
 -  installation of Linux consistent with the Debian distribution
 -  available on many FTP sites, NFS mounts, or CD-ROM.  It does this by
 -  comparing the list of installed packages with those available by FTP
 -  or at a specified directory.  A list of packages, categorized to make
 -  selection easier, is then presented to the user to choose what to
 -  install.  All selected packages are then fetched if necessary (using
 -  FTP), verified for correctness, and then installed.
 -  .
 -  Dftp can also be run on a non-Debian machine in the case where the
 -  Debian machine does not have FTP access.  For this, stand-alone
 -  versions of dftp, in both "csh" and "perl" source, are available under
 -  /debian/contrib/tools.
Changes:
 -  Now written in Perl (thanks to Robert Browning)
Files:
 da02e2da88461013aea6c083d8cebbe8  15951  admin     -      dftp_2.0-1.tar.gz
 f9ee9efba75ecdd7a0bfaa574b3f787e  38863  byhand    -      dftp_1.6.csh
 04671c397c049e49bde1f7f406f7aed9  44833  byhand    -      dftp_2.0.pl
 057a4841d27b50ce44831a93b7469de5  14312  admin  optional  dftp_2.0-1_all.deb



Please place the ".csh" and ".pl" files in /debian/contrib/tools.
Also, please create the following links within that directory:

	dftp.csh -> dftp_1.6.csh
	dftp.pl  -> dftp_2.0.pl
	dftp     -> dftp.pl

Thanks!


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Rob Leslie writes ("Bug#4218: Problems removing INN"):
...
> dpkg: error processing inn (--purge):
>  cannot remove `/var/spool/news': Device or resource busy

Would it be better if I made dpkg treat this as a warning ?

It happens one of the directories in a package is a mount point.

Ian.


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Package: m4
Version: 1.4-4

The last lines of the extended description read as follows:

 An experimental feature, which would improve `m4' usefulness, allows
 for changing the syntax for what is a "word" in `m4'.  You should use:
 ./configure --enable-changeword
 .
 if you want this feature compiled in.  The current implementation slows
 down `m4' considerably and is hardly acceptable.  So, it might go away,
 do not count on it yet. Depends: libc5                
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I presume that should be a seperate entry. I am also not sure that we need
these last two paragraphs in the control file.

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Nils Rennebarth writes ("Bug#4221: knews silently overwrites configuration file"):
> Knews should handle an upgrade more intelligently and not simply overwrite
> the (possibly customized) /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Knews
> configuration file.
> 
> I know this is difficult to do right. A lot of Knews functionality depends
> on a working Knews.ad and what is necessary there changes from release to
> release. 
> Maybe it should look if there already exists one and give the user an
> option to install a new one / back up the old one ... like dpkg does.
> 
> Listing it as a conffile is not satisfactory though because it is created
> >from  user-input at installtime.

Furthermore, configuration should definitely not be in /usr.  It
belongs in /etc.

Ian.


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  Susan> Package: mirror 
  Susan> Version: 2.8-6
  Susan> 
  Susan> The control file for mirror should be changed to show that it
  Susan> requires the installation of the full Perl package, not just the
  Susan> small package included in the base system (what's missing is a
  Susan> timezone.pl file).
  Susan> 
  Susan> Alternatively, the perl package in the base system needs to have the
  Susan> timezone.pl file added to it.

Thanks for pointing this out.  But what shall I do?

On one hand, 16 packages directly depend on perl.[1] I could add a Depends.

On the other hand, we seem to have (had ?) a policy of relying on (at least a
rudimentary) perl in the base system --- but I cannot find anything on that
in the programmers and policy manuals of dpkg-1.3.8. So should timezone.pl
move into base? Comments? Ian, Bruce?


[1] edd@miles:~> zgrep "^depends.*perl" /mirror/debian/rex/binary-i386/Packages.gz | wc -l
     16     


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Guy Maor writes:
> The 'xx New Debian i386 Packages' mail *is* the announcement I

Oops, then I missed something. Aren't we supposed to make an announcement
anymore?

> mentioned earlier.  Some developers also post the .changes file when
> they upload it, but that's at their option.  It really isn't
> necessary.

IC

Michael

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Dale Scheetz writes:
> > That's exactly the point. I cannot recompile any package that uses Motif
> > since I don't have it. But I can recompile LyX since we have an xforms
> > package available. 
> > 
> Folks that buy my CD can too, but that's because xforms is improperly
> located in contrib instead of non-free where it belongs (because source is

I think our consensus is that the non-free tree is for programs not freed by
teh copyright, while binary-only packages belong into contrib. Thus contrib
is the correct location.

> not distributed). Non-free is not part of the Debian distribution (in the
> most technical use of the term) and programs that depend on them belong in
> contrib (or non-free if they have distribution restrictions).

But with xforms belonging into contrib LyX is compilable by everyone.

Michael

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Dale Scheetz writes:
> > imapd		Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
> > 
> This one's mine. I don't understand. What exactly needs to be updated?

There's a password check in imapd somewhere that has to be corrected to go
be shadow aware (at least that's what I was told). A simple getpwnam doesn't
have the password "x" in the structure.

Michael

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On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> I think our consensus is that the non-free tree is for programs not freed by
> teh copyright, while binary-only packages belong into contrib. Thus contrib
> is the correct location.

Pine is in non-free because it's copyright places restrictions on the
distribution of source. Xforms has more severe restrictions on the
distribution of source than pine does. It is my understanding that this
source distribution restriction is what makes Xforms' proper location to
be non-free.

Luck,

Dwarf

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I've finally got around to doing these. I'm not entirely sure that
libelf belongs in devel, but since nobody has responded to my queries
on this matter... shrug. Bug me if I'm wrong.

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Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-8

Ghostview should install itself into the /etc/mailcap entry so mime
compatible programs can use it to view postscript documents.

I suggest making ghostview "Recommends: mime-support" and adding the
following to the install scripts:

debian.postinst
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
  install-mime	--install --package=ghostview --content=application/postscript \
		--description="Postscript Formatted Output" --nametemplate="%s.ps" \
		--test='test "$DISPLAY" != ""' \
		--view='/usr/bin/X11/ghostview %s' \
		--comment="Ghostview is a fairly good front-end for viewing postscript \
			   and should probably be given a reasonably high priority."
fi

debian.prerm
~~~~~~~~~~~~
if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
then
  install-mime --remove --package=ghostview
fi


For more information, please see the "install-mime" man page.

                                        Brian
                               ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> This is a different matter.  Encouraging people to discuss things that
> might or might not be bugs is fine.
> 
> Discouraging people from reporting things that definitely are bugs is
> not fine.
> 
I agree completely, but I will still contend that the appropriate step to
take before submitting a bug is to contact the maintainer. When that can't
be done, or the maintainer is resistant, or the maintainer agrees, then is
the right time to submit the bug report.

Later,

Dwarf

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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.8

In unpacking the sgmlspm dsc file on a fairly fresh system, I found:

# dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc 
dpkg-source: failure: exec cpio: No such file or directory
dpkg-source: failure: cpio gave error exit status 2
# type -a cpio
type: cpio: not found

Installing cpio cured the problem, but suggests that the newest
versions of dpkg need to depend on cpio, which (I think) means that
cpio would have to be added to base.

Susan Kleinmann


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Package: dpkg
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In unpacking the sgmlspm dsc file on a fairly fresh system, I found:

# dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc 
dpkg-source: extracting sgmlspm in sgmlspm-1.03ii
dpkg-source: failure: exec patch: No such file or directory
dpkg-source: failure: patch gave error exit status 2

Once patch was installed, dpkg-source completed successfully.

Since patch isn't in base, I assume this means that the dpkg Depends
field has to be amended to add 'patch'.

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Version: 2.06-1

Hi...

In the README file for ppp in /usr/doc/pppd it says:

   2.  Make sure pppd is where dip thinks it is: /usr/lib/ppp/pppd, or
   make a link from there to where pppd really is.  (Or re-compile dip
   to tell it where pppd is on your system - see pathnames.h).

Now, if I were to fire up a connection with DIP using ppp.dip in the examples
for dip (of course, modifying it to my purposes) then it can't find a pppd
to execute because there is no /usr/lib/ppp directory for dip to execute a
pppd in.  Making the directory and symlinking it seems to make it work.

...Karl

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> 
> Package: ghostview
> Version: 1.5-8
> 
> Ghostview should install itself into the /etc/mailcap entry so mime
> compatible programs can use it to view postscript documents.
> 
> I suggest making ghostview "Recommends: mime-support" and adding the
> following to the install scripts:
> 
> debian.postinst
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
> then
>   install-mime	--install --package=ghostview --content=application/postscript \
> 		--description="Postscript Formatted Output" --nametemplate="%s.ps" \
> 		--test='test "$DISPLAY" != ""' \
> 		--view='/usr/bin/X11/ghostview %s' \
> 		--comment="Ghostview is a fairly good front-end for viewing postscript \
> 			   and should probably be given a reasonably high priority."
> fi
> 
> debian.prerm
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> if [ -x /usr/sbin/install-mime ]
> then
>   install-mime --remove --package=ghostview
> fi
> 
> 
No, that isn't what should be done, or at least not the only thing.
I'm on my way to produce a second posctscript-viewer (front-end to gs)
called gv, that is in some ways much better than ghostview, though there
are too many differences in the user interface to drop ghostview instead.

I propose to have a virtual package postscript_viewer installing a 
/etc/alternatives - managed binary /usr/bin/X11/ps_view and handling the stuff 
via update-alternatives. 
mime-support should either put/usr/bin/X11/ps_view into mailcap by default
(which is what I propose), or we install it from ghostview and gv using
install-mime.

	Helmut


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Ian Jackson:
> > I'm not certain that distributing HTML with the packages and other formats
> > separately is a good idea. I think it might be a better idea to continue
> > as now and use on-line conversions from man and Info to HTML. Pre-converted
> > HTML should be distributed as separate packages.
> 
> So you'd rather I put the SGML source for the manuals in the dpkg
> binary package, rather than the HTML pre-converted form ?

No, I was talking about man and Info, in my usual unclear fashion, sorry.
The conversions of man and Info to HTML are fairly fast.

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Package: util-linux
Version: 2.5-5

/sbin/clock seg. faults.  The following illustrates this problem:


       Dillweed# dpkg -i util-linux_2.5-5.deb
       (Reading database ... 15590 files and directories currently
       installed.)
       Preparing to replace util-linux (using util-linux_2.5-5.deb) ...
       Unpacking replacement util-linux ...
       Setting up util-linux (2.5-5) ...
        
       Dillweed# clock 
-----> Segmentation fault
       Dillweed# dpkg -i util-linux_2.5-4.deb 
       dpkg - warning: downgrading util-linux from 2.5-5 to 2.5-4.
       (Reading database ... 15590 files and directories currently
       installed.)
       Preparing to replace util-linux (using util-linux_2.5-4.deb) ...
       Unpacking replacement util-linux ...
       Setting up util-linux (2.5-4) ...

       Dillweed# clock
-----> Fri Aug 23 01:21:12 1996
       Dillweed# 

I solved this by copying the binary from util-linux_2.5-4.deb over the
binary
from util-linux_2.5-5.deb, and everything was fine...

I am using Debian 1.1, patched up to everything in the experimental
distribution as of August 24, 1996, with kernel version 2.0.14 and
libc.so.5.2.18 from libc5.5.2.18-10.deb.

-- 
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http://www.et.byu.edu/~andersee/ 
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Springville, Ut 84663            phone:  (801) 489-1231
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I agree with Brian that micro-bugs should probably be reported to the 
maintainer, just because it takes more work to contact the reporter and 
close the bug than to fix it.  However, in this case the reporter has to
keep his _own_ bug tracking system, if he wants to make sure that the
maintainer actually fixed the bug.  This may or may not be a big deal,
depending on the responsiveness (read, speed and verbal skills) of
the maintainer.  Also, the reporter then takes the moral responsibility
of (a) having wasted a third person's time who may chance across the bug
(it takes time to identify a bug), and (b) having wasted someone else's 
time reporting a bug.

I agree with Lars that the bug tracking system is not a shame pole.

I agree with Dale that trivial (or incorrect) bugs give a bad and unbalanced
impression of the distribution.  

I agree with Ian that we can't afford to let bugs go unreported because
they might be publicly visible (that's actually a lot of help!).
And I also agree with Ian that debian-user is a bad, bad place to report
bugs because of its traffic.

Having to do with psychology, it seems to me there is another advantage
of using the bug tracking system, and that has to do with the 
less-than-perfect side of humans:  all of Debian's developers are
busy folks who need to save time.  If someone mails a developer a message 
regarding a trivial (or maybe not so trivial) bug fix, and he deems it 
unimportant, he might be tempted to tell the reporter to forget it.
This leaves these possibilities:
A. the reporter agrees it was silly and defers to the maintainer, and no
   one else is ever bothered by this.  
B. the reporter agrees it was silly and defers to the maintainer, and someone
   else does find the same bug, thereby wasting his time and _really_
   giving the Debian distribution a bad name because of real bugs.
C. the reporter doesn't agree with the maintainer, takes the bug to the
   bug tracking system, thereby deliberately turning up the heat on the
   maintainer, and potentially causing a mini-war.

So, except where the ratio of 
      triviality-of-bug / responsiveness-of-maintainer 
is near 0, or (better) where the reporter realizes the maintainer
has his own motivations for fixing the bug right away, I agree with Ian that 
the right thing to do is to log the bug.  I believe the bug tracking system 
may be the single most important aspect of the Debian system.

Even when a reporter isn't sure that an event is a bug, he should report
it, since this eventually leads to FAQ's which can then be aired and 
resolved :-).

(I now feel guilty for not having always used the BTS myself in the past.)

Best regards,
Susan Kleinmann






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Package: gs
Version: 4.01-2

When called from xdvi, gs works as expected, but prints the
following (debugging?) messages:

gs: Error: /undefinedfilename in --file--
gs: Operand stack:
gs:    (./Fontmap)   (r)
gs: Execution stack:
gs:    %interp_exit   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
--nostrin
gs: gval--   0   --nostringval--   %array_continue   --nostringval--
--nostringval-
gs: -   false   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
gs: Dictionary stack:
gs:    --dict:678/701--   --dict:0/20--   --dict:47/200--
--dict:678/701--
gs: Current allocation mode is global
gs: Current file position is 29607

This does not happen when invoking gs from the command line. 

Carlos



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> No, that isn't what should be done, or at least not the only thing.
> I'm on my way to produce a second posctscript-viewer (front-end to gs)
> called gv, that is in some ways much better than ghostview, though there
> are too many differences in the user interface to drop ghostview instead.

Yes, it _is_ what should be done.  "install-mime" handles multiple entries
for the same mime-type.  Thus, if both "ghostview" and "gv" get installed,
the user is given the choice of which is to have priority in the mailcap file.
Trust me, this will work.  It was designed to handle just this case.

Please see the "install-mime" man page for more information.

                                        Brian
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branderh@debian.iaehv.nl writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"):
> >      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
> >      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
> >      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
> >      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
> >      Debian distribution.
> 
> This can't be done with nearly all (la)tex related style files.  When one
> wants to change a (la)tex style an other named copy can be used but the
> original may not be touched.  Do we really want to ditch (la)tex?

I've added the following footnote:
<footnote>It is OK for there to be a requirement that modified
versions carry a warning, or that they be released with a different
name or version number, or something similar, because we can comply
with this requirement if necessary.</footnote>

Ian.


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branderh@debian.iaehv.nl writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"):
> >      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
> >      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
> >      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
> >      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
> >      Debian distribution.
> 
> This can't be done with nearly all (la)tex related style files.  When one
> wants to change a (la)tex style an other named copy can be used but the
> original may not be touched.  Do we really want to ditch (la)tex?

Being required to change names is fine, as we can do that if
necessary.

Ian.


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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"):
...
> Ahem, this isn't exact enough IMO. With a standard Debian system I am able
> to rebuild LyX. 

You can't rebuild LyX entirely from source using only packages in the
main Debian distribution.

> > [...]
> >      All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
> >      modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
> >      be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
> >      their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so as part of a
>              ^^^^^^^

Fixed the typo.

Ian.


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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
...
> > Compiling names of groups or even worse group ids into binaries is a
> > bad idea.
> 
> Why? Because it's not easy to change? 

It's hard to change and obscure.  Policy is best implemented where it
can be seen.

>  I talked to Alain (upstream
> maintainer) about my changes and he's going to included them into 4.4. I
> don't see the problem right now, since you're able to put everyone in group
> floppy who shall be able to use fdmount. On the other hand this group coding
> (which is ifdef'ed btw so it's not much work to create a new version) adds
> security. How many systems have wrong permissions on some files? In
> particular a file with s.bit should be as secure as possible IMHO.

Obviously if you've done it right having the binary check itself
whether rgid or getgroups includes `floppy' and having it only
executable by group floppy have the same security effect.

However, there are other differences: having the permissions on the
binary do the enforcement means that a programming error of any kind
in the binary is at most an exposure to group floppy (which may well
be only the sysadmin anyway).  It also makes it much more obvious to
people how to get access.

...
> No problem Ian. But then I'm not so sure if it's a bug now.

We should either change fdmount to match the policy and the other
similar programs (dip, for example), or we should change the policy
and the other programs to match fdmount.

I think that using the file permissions is technically superior, so I
think we should stick with it.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
...
> > I can't prove that it's needless.  You're shifting the burden of
> > proof.  It's up to you to show that it's needed.
> 
> The burden I am trying to shift onto your shoulders is for you to have
> read the complete thread of this discussion. It is not clear that you have
> done so. You declared the needlessness but gave no explanation of why this
> was so.

Suppose that I were to declare that it is necessary for dpkg to be
able to read mail.  How would you refute my declaration of this
necessity ?  You can't.  Instead, you would ask me to justify this
assertion.

When the question is being discussed as to whether something is
necessary or not the burden of proof must fall on those who claim that
it is.  By default - in the absence of any reason not to think so -
a thing should be assumed not to be necessary.

> The rest of us, as a group, have discussed this, at some length, and come
> to the conclusion that the editor virtual package name was a viable
> solution. As a late arrival to this discussion it is your responsibility
> to have, at least, read the complete discussion, and speak to the points
> raised and settled there. Blanket assertions without supporting arguments
> are neither constructive, nor informative.

I have read all of the discussion.  Just because I'm a week behind on
my email doesn't mean I'm not reading it.

However, since you seemed so insistent, I went back and had a look at
what arguments people might have presented.

I found a rather limited amount of discussion.  It did not appear to
me to have reached a definite conclusion.  The virtual package got
added by the maintainer of the list because noone objected in time.

The only one I could find was based on the idea that in order for it
to be safe to remove the `Essential' flag from `ae' it would be
necessary to use the dependency mechanism to stop people from
deinstalling it before they install another editor.

This didn't seem to be stated explicitly in this form, but it was
clear that people were seeing the idea of an `editor' virtual package
as an alternative to marking `ae' essential.

I don't see that this is a true case of alternative solutions to a
problem: I don't think there is a problem, and I think that it would
be just fine for `ae' not to be essential and for nothing to depend
on it.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"):
> [...] xforms is improperly
> located in contrib instead of non-free where it belongs (because source is
> not distributed). [...]

Sourceless packages are fine to distribute in contrib, so long as the
binaries may be redistributed for profit &c.

Please see the policy manual, chapter 2.

Ian.


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Peter Tobias asks me in private email:
...
> BTW: I didn't have much time the last weeks (and I won't have much
> time the next weeks) so I wasn't able to check if this new source
> format will also work for packages like netstd (packages which contain
> lots of "sub packages" each with its own original source. Do you
> see any problems with it?

I'm afraid I totally fail to understand the netbase and netstd source
packages.

The new source packaging scheme will require you to put all of these
sub-packages together, and turn the whole thing into a normal package.

Ian.


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root@iaehv.nl writes ("Bug#4235: cpp, gcc, dpkg "):
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ was this intentional ?
> 
...
> Somehow installation with dpkg-ftp and the new cpp uninstalled my gcc
> package and look how dpkg selects on a dselect update.  This shouldn't
> happen.  Somehow gcc is too easily uninstalled because the conflict with
> the cpp package.  Another reason to remove the cpp thing from gcc and
> let it come in its own package and let gcc depend on it.

The problem with gcc and cpp is being discussed atm.

> # dselect update
> 
> dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec C compiler `gcc': No such file or directory
> dpkg: subprocess gcc --print-libgcc-file-name returned error exit status 2

This is due to dpkg-ftp calling `dpkg --print-architecture' rather
than `dpkg --print-installation-architecture'.  I'm reassigning this
bug report.

Ian.


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Package: xosview
Version: 1.3.2-1

I ran xosview with this command:

    xosview -geometry 48x48+388+0 &

and indeed from xlsclients -l:

    Window 0x2800002:
      Machine:  sfere
      Name:  xosview@sfere
      Icon Name:  xosview@sfere
      Command:  xosview -geometry 48x48+388+0
      Instance/Class:  xosview/xosview

...but (as you can see below) the window is not in the correct
position:

    xwininfo: Window id: 0x2800002 "xosview@sfere"

      Absolute upper-left X:  392
      Absolute upper-left Y:  3
      Relative upper-left X:  0
      Relative upper-left Y:  0
      Width: 48
      Height: 48
      Depth: 8
      Visual Class: PseudoColor
      Border width: 0
      Class: InputOutput
      Colormap: 0x26 (installed)
      Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
      Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
      Backing Store State: NotUseful
      Save Under State: no
      Map State: IsViewable
      Override Redirect State: no
      Corners:  +392+3  -160+3  -160-399  +392-399
      -geometry 48x48+390+1

Sometimes xosview positions itself near, but not exactly in, the right
place; sometimes it positions itself in the upper left corner of the
screen; and occasionally it even ends up in the right place.

-- 
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Subject: Buglist philosophy, (was bug 4164: ferret extended description...)
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Susan G. Kleinmann wrote:
> So, except where the ratio of 
>       triviality-of-bug / responsiveness-of-maintainer 
> is near 0, or (better) where the reporter realizes the maintainer
> has his own motivations for fixing the bug right away, I agree with Ian that 
> the right thing to do is to log the bug.  I believe the bug tracking system 
> may be the single most important aspect of the Debian system.

As a maintainer whose responsiveness is probably less than ideal[1],
I must say I rather like having the bug tracking system, and I
would just as soon have people report stuff there. It saves me from
having to keep a separate list of "private" bugs, and while it may
not be a "pole of shame", if the list gets long, it tends to inspire
some effort to reduce it to something a little less personally
embarrasing :-).

One enhancement I would like to see is the ability to access the
buglist by package. No, not sorted by package, but a single page
of the outstanding bugs for a given package, so that I can have a
link to "http://www.debian.org/bugs/bypackage/nvi.html" or some
such. Or maybe a form, so that somebody can enter a package name
and get the appropriate list. I think this would make it much more
likely that people would look to see if a bug has been reported
before submitting a new one, and would make it easier for maintainers.
(I have no idea how hard this would be; I'm just throwing the idea
out there...)

Steve

[1] I enjoy contributing in a small way to a community (both Debian
and the free software community in general) that has provided a
lot of benefit for me over the years, but the reality is that Debian
is a spare time thing for me, and I haven't had much spare time
this year.

-- 
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				"Calling all units!  Leading monster
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				 forty!... Set up ambush on flanks!... Also,
				 do not shoot me!... Repeat!... Do not shoot
				 me!!!"
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> 
> Package: xosview
> Version: 1.3.2-1
> 
> I ran xosview with this command:
> 
>     xosview -geometry 48x48+388+0 &

xosview does not confirm to most X standards.

It really isn't a very nice programme.

The upstream maintainer says he will some time start using the
standard Xt interface, but he didn't say when.

Xosview-1.4.1 AFAIK doesn't use it.

I'm closing this bug, as I cannot do anything about it, and
the upstream maintainer doesn't care.

Thanks anyway,

-- 
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Dale Scheetz writes:
> Pine is in non-free because it's copyright places restrictions on the
> distribution of source. Xforms has more severe restrictions on the
> distribution of source than pine does. It is my understanding that this

That's why there is no source available. :-)

> source distribution restriction is what makes Xforms' proper location to
> be non-free.

It was once decided that binary-only packages belong into contrib.

Michael

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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:05:16 +0200 (MET DST)
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> > BTW: I didn't have much time the last weeks (and I won't have much
> > time the next weeks) so I wasn't able to check if this new source
> > format will also work for packages like netstd (packages which contain
> > lots of "sub packages" each with its own original source. Do you
> > see any problems with it?
> 
> I'm afraid I totally fail to understand the netbase and netstd source
> packages.

Ian Murdock wanted to have them that way to make it easier to download
the sources for a single program. The size of the sources of the first
net package were ~2MB ...

> The new source packaging scheme will require you to put all of these
> sub-packages together, and turn the whole thing into a normal package.

No problem. The archive with the original sources would be my own
collection of original sources then ...


Thanks,

Peter

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Package: emacs
Version: 19.34-1     

/etc/emacs/site-start.el, after upgrading from 19.31 to 19.34, contains

	(load "debian-rundir")
	(debian-run-directory)    

which fails as there is no debian-rundir.el in the package.

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Package: ncftp
Version: 2.3.0-5

Ncftp dumps core when invoked in an xterm window of width 160 or more.

Looks like this is a ncftp bug and not a ncurses ones... Dselect works
just fine in wide windows, and so does pine.

  Christian



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Yves Arrouye wrote:
> Package: cron
> Version: 3.0pl1-33
> 
> Here is what I get:
> 
> marin13# dpkg -i cron_3.0pl1-33.deb 
> (Reading database ... 22220 files and directories currently installed.)         
> Preparing to replace cron (using cron_3.0pl1-33.deb) ...
> start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/cron': No such file or d
> irectory
> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> [snip!] 

Interesting. It's failing because it's an upgrade (otherwise prerm
wouldn't be called), but /usr/sbin/cron isn't there. I'm able to
duplicate it by simply rm'ing cron, and then trying to do pretty
much anything with dpkg -- install doesn't work, and neither does
remove. I've tried --force-reinstreq ('cause one of the messages
from dpkg is "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you
should reinstall it before attempting a removal.") but that doesn't
help.  I'm not sure how to get out of this other than going down
into the bowels of /var/dpkg and messing with the prerm script:
I don't see a --ignore-script-errors option for dpkg.

> Apparently the install fails because the installation script is run with
> -e set. If I touch /usr/sbin/cron, it installs fine.

They're supposed to have -e set. I'm not inclined to modify the
script to check for /usr/sbin/cron, because the if the prerm script
is called, then the cron package is installed, and the cron program
is supposed to be there. If it isn't, then the file has been removed
by manipulations outside the domain of the dpkg/dselect.

If all the package scripts are supposed to deal with things happening
outside the control of dpkg/dselect then I have about 300 bug
reports to file :-).

I'm not closing this bug yet, because I would like to know if there
is a way around this problem (other than 'touch /usr/bin/cron', which
may well be the best answer). 

Steve Greenland

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Aieee!  I forget to arrange for that file to be compiled.  Short term
workaround: install emacs-el-19.34-1.all.deb as well, as it includes
the missing file...

I'll try and get -2 out later today.


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Subject: Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount
To: ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Ian Jackson writes:
> Obviously if you've done it right having the binary check itself
> whether rgid or getgroups includes `floppy' and having it only
> executable by group floppy have the same security effect.

Yes, it checks getgroups.

> However, there are other differences: having the permissions on the
> binary do the enforcement means that a programming error of any kind
> in the binary is at most an exposure to group floppy (which may well
> be only the sysadmin anyway).  It also makes it much more obvious to
> people how to get access.

I have no problem with it being mode 4750 again.

> We should either change fdmount to match the policy and the other
> similar programs (dip, for example), or we should change the policy
> and the other programs to match fdmount.
> 
> I think that using the file permissions is technically superior, so I
> think we should stick with it.

No problem with me. But just in case I let the group check in (since it's in
the upstream source anyway).

I'm preparing a new version.

Michael

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> 
> Package: xosview
> Version: 1.3.2-6
> 
> Xosview only reads the file XOSView (and ~/.Xdefaults) when evaluating 
> its X resources. It does this by doing all the reading by foot (calling
> XrmGetFileDatabase() etc.). 
> This is IMO the wrong way to do it; the application should use 
> XtGetApplicationResources() (as xsysinfo does it). 

You're absolutely right.

The upstream maintainer disagrees (well, he agrees, but doesn't want
to change it, AFAIK).

do you want me to 
  1 move xosview to 'contrib', and stop maintaining it
  2 just go on maintaining a broken xosview?


Sometimes, I really don't know what to do.

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Date: 25 Aug 96 19:47 UT
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Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Source: fdutils
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Binary:  fdutils
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Description: 
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Changes: 
 fdutils (4.3-5) misc; urgency=LOW
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         * Corrected fdmount mode back to 4750 (Bug#4051)
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Package: ircd
Version: 2.8.21-1

In the postinst hostname is called with option -fqdn. However, there is no
option 'q' nor an option 'n'.

Michael

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Package: ircd
Version: 2.8.21-1

The doc files have incorrect permissions and ownership:

ls -l /usr/doc/ircd gives:

total 146
-rw-------   1 root     root          768 Aug  3 21:54 2.8-New
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       1898 Dec  2  1994 Advertisement
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       5500 May  2  1994 Authors
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       1114 Aug  3 21:54 ChangeLog
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       3532 May  2  1994 Etiquette
drwx------   2 999      meskes       1024 Aug 26 11:26 Europe
-rw-------   1 999      meskes      40785 May  2  1994 INSTALL
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       1001 Aug  3 19:52 Makefile
-rw-------   1 root     root         1014 Aug  3 19:11 Makefile~
-rw-------   1 999      meskes      14826 May  2  1994 Manual
-rw-------   1 999      meskes      15134 May  2  1994 NOTE
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       6589 Dec  2  1994 Operators
drwx------   2 999      meskes       1024 Aug 26 11:26 US-Admin
-rw-------   1 999      meskes      13099 Dec  2  1994 alt-irc-faq
-rw-------   1 999      meskes      14661 May  2  1994 example.conf
drwx------   2 999      meskes       1024 Aug 26 11:26 history
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       3124 May  2  1994 irc.1
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       5559 May  2  1994 ircd.8
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       2191 May  2  1994 m4macros
-rw-------   1 999      meskes       2196 Dec  2  1994 rules

Michael

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Since there weren't many testers of the shadow packages I decided to upload
it. Please test it! There will still be some bugs. So be careful. 

The problems I know about are:

1) adduser doesn't work anymore
2) xdm doesn't work anymore
3) The dependency are not yet correct. In particular I think I the
dependency between shadow-passwd and shadow-login have to be reversed. So
please make sure you don't install passwd without login.

Michael


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Source: shadow
Version: 960810-1
Binary:  shadow-login shadow-passwd shadow-su
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 shadow-login: Login utility from the shadow password suite
 shadow-passwd: Manage shadow password and group files
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Package: mount
Version: 2.5j-1.1

In many traditional unices, swapon can take a "-s" option. This means
list the partition (or files) currently in use. Linux's swapon doesn't
have this option, but it would be nice if it did.

I don't think this information is made available outside the kernel;
perhaps it should be a file in /proc?

(This bug should probably be forwarded upstream.)

Austin


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Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Bug#4262: dpkg-source requires cpio"):
...
> # dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc 
> dpkg-source: failure: exec cpio: No such file or directory
> dpkg-source: failure: cpio gave error exit status 2
...
> Installing cpio cured the problem, but suggests that the newest
> versions of dpkg need to depend on cpio, which (I think) means that
> cpio would have to be added to base.

cpio is only required by dpkg-source, and not to install packages.

I've added it to Suggests and mentioned it in the Description.  This
will be in 1.3.10.

Ian.


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Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Bug#4263: dpkg-source requires patch"):
...
> # dpkg-source -x sgmlspm_1.03ii-2.dsc 
> dpkg-source: extracting sgmlspm in sgmlspm-1.03ii
> dpkg-source: failure: exec patch: No such file or directory
> dpkg-source: failure: patch gave error exit status 2
...

patch is only required by dpkg-source, and not to install packages.

I've added it to Suggests and mentioned it in the Description.  This
will be in 1.3.10.

Ian.


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Package: diald
Version: 0.14-4

For some strange reasons I cannot install it:

(Reading database ... 30731 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking diald (from .../ftp/diald_0.14-4.i386.deb) ...

                        -*- ATTENTION -*-

Your kernel does not seem to have SLIP devices.

diald must be able to set up a SLIP device to do its work, even
if you only plan to use PPP connections.

If you know your kernel has SLIP devices, then this is a bug.
Please report it.

If you know your kernel has SLIP devices you can override my judgment
by entering <y> or <Y> below. The installation of diald will then
proceed as if nothing had happened.

Proceed with the installation? [n] Can't open install: No such file or
directoryAborting installation.
dpkg: error processing /home/meskes/ftp/diald_0.14-4.i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /home/meskes/ftp/diald_0.14-4.i386.deb

I did not touch my keyboard during the installation. 

BTW I wonder why this test is needed. It didn't suffice for me to insmod the
slip module. It seems the preinst checks for the existance of an active slip
connection. If that is true, however, I cannot see any reason for it.

Michael
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On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> I have read all of the discussion.  Just because I'm a week behind on
> my email doesn't mean I'm not reading it.
> 
> However, since you seemed so insistent, I went back and had a look at
> what arguments people might have presented.
> 
> I found a rather limited amount of discussion.  It did not appear to
> me to have reached a definite conclusion.  The virtual package got
> added by the maintainer of the list because noone objected in time.
> 
> The only one I could find was based on the idea that in order for it
> to be safe to remove the `Essential' flag from `ae' it would be
> necessary to use the dependency mechanism to stop people from
> deinstalling it before they install another editor.
> 
> This didn't seem to be stated explicitly in this form, but it was
> clear that people were seeing the idea of an `editor' virtual package
> as an alternative to marking `ae' essential.
> 
> I don't see that this is a true case of alternative solutions to a
> problem: I don't think there is a problem, and I think that it would
> be just fine for `ae' not to be essential and for nothing to depend
> on it.
> 
Thank you for speaking to the issues brought out by the previous
discussions.
I feel the need to make my position clear here. I have no "axe" to grind
here on this issue. My concerns are only that the issue be resolved
correctly. Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have
only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it,
the essential field had been declaired a bug, but the discussion of that
bug seemed to indicate that removal of the essential flag was not a
sufficient solution. In addition, I am concerned by the fact that this
field was only added to the package a couple of revisions ago, and now
needs to be removed. 
I don't see any difference, in principle, between an editor and a
mail-delivery-agent. They are both programs that deliver specific
functionality. The only differnce I can see is that an editor may not be
viewed as being as critical to system operations as the other, and Ian has
pointed out that users are likely to be more aware of their needs for an
editor than they are for other dependant programs. I am pretty sure that
we have users who are not this aware, but that is not the basis for my
feelings here. 
Ae is in the base package because it was deemed necessary to have an
editor in the system, and ae was small enough to fit. It is this necessity
that is driving the editor virtual package dependance as the proposed
solution. If it is not necessary for the system to contain an editor, then
why is one in the base system? If it is necessary for an editor to be on
the system, it seems desirable to provide protections from the inadvertant
removal of all editors. If there is a better way to insure the existance
of an editor on the system, I would be happy to hear it.
In addition, it is not clear to me that being unnecessary is the same as
undesirable. I can be convinced (no, really!) of either position at this
point. I just need a little more 'splaining.

Thanks,

Dwarf

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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages"):
...
> I've scanned through this list and found quite a lot of packages I never
> read an announcement of. I usually read debian-{devel,changes,user,private}
> so I take it I should have found this announcements. But I never have. Did I
> just miss them? Or is there a problem with the announcements?

Can we please have a statement on what we should do ?

I think we should post the release announcements to debian-changes as
well has having the summary postings.

If people want just the summaries we should provide a separate list.

Ian.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
...
> The GNU configure scripts usually match on i[3456]86-*-*) for
> architecture support, so that's not a problem.
> 
> I usually do something like:
> 
> a = $(shell dpkg --print-architecture)
> 
> ifeq (i386,$(a))
> arch = i486-debian-linux
> else
> arch = $(a)-debian-linux
...

Should I provide a command to do this automatically ?

dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture perhaps.

Ian.


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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> Rob Leslie writes ("Bug#4218: Problems removing INN"):
> ...
> > dpkg: error processing inn (--purge):
> >  cannot remove `/var/spool/news': Device or resource busy
> 
> Would it be better if I made dpkg treat this as a warning ?
> (It happens one of the directories in a package is a mount point).

Yes, I think so. Every directory can be a potential mountpoint.

Mike.
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dpkg 1.3.10 contains version 2.0.0.0 of the package maintainers'
manuals.  With this release the new source format is made official.

Maintainers should start thinking about converting their packages.
There is no rush yet, but packages which you're updating anyway are
probably best converted now.

If you encounter any problems, particularly any which may require the
scheme to be changed and thus require changes to all converted
packages so far, please report them to debian-devel or debian-bugs
ASAP.

You'll find that the new policy manual has a set of instructions for
converting packages.

Ian.

debian-manuals (2.0.0.0) unstable;

  * Footnote added OK'ing copyrights which require name changes.
  * More detail about changelog format names.

  * Problematic licence restrictions are formatted as lists.
  * Mentioned 822-date utility as way to generate RFC822 format dates.
  * Typos corrected.
  * Released.

 -- Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk>  Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:27:34 +0100


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Dirk Eddelbuettel writes ("Bug#4238: mirror requires perl"):
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> On the other hand, we seem to have (had ?) a policy of relying on (at least a
> rudimentary) perl in the base system --- but I cannot find anything on that
> in the programmers and policy manuals of dpkg-1.3.8. So should timezone.pl
> move into base? Comments? Ian, Bruce?

I propose the following policy, which is roughly what we have at the
moment:

A basic version of Perl is shipped with the base system.  This should
be a separate package, say `perlbase'.  If you only need this you
don't need a dependency.

If you need extra modules, &c, you must declare a dependency on
`perl'.

Ian.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ?"):
...
> Pine is in non-free because it's copyright places restrictions on the
> distribution of source. Xforms has more severe restrictions on the
> distribution of source than pine does. It is my understanding that this
> source distribution restriction is what makes Xforms' proper location to
> be non-free.

Please read chapter 2 of the new policy manual.

Ian.


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Kevin M. Bealer writes ("Bug#4257: request-route would be better as conffile"):
...
> The modules packages contains a file /sbin/request-route.  This is run by
> the kernel to create routes as needed.
> 
> The script's comments suggest is it very configurable, and I usually
> configure it heavily .. however it is written over whenever I install a new
> version of the package it is in (dpkg -S shows it as modules).
> 
> I propose this file be a conffile, and that the user be prompted to replace
> it or not.

If the script is made to be a conffile it should be in /etc.

Ian.


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Package: 

Package: win32gcc
Version: 2.7.2.cygnus.960412-1

$ cc -bi386-unknown-cygwin32 -c binary.c
cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory

>From strace:

access("/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-unknown-cygwin32/2.7.2/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-unknown-cygwin32/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc/i386-unknown-cygwin32/2.7.2/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
access("/usr/lib/gcc/i386-unknown-cygwin32/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
access("/usr/i386-unknown-cygwin32/bin/i386-unknown-cygwin32/2.7.2/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)
access("/usr/i386-unknown-cygwin32/bin/cc1", X_OK) = -1 ERRNO_2 (No such file or directory)


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Package: aout-gcc
Version: 2.6.3-13

$ gcc -bi486-linuxaout hello.c 
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory
$ gcc -bi486-linuxaout -v hello.c
gcc version 2.7.2
 /usr/i486-linuxaout/bin/cpp -lang-c -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=7 -D__ELF__ -Dunix -Di386 -Dlinux -D__ELF__ -D__unix__ -D__i386__ -D__linux__ -D__unix -D__i386 -D__linux -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -D__i486__ hello.c /tmp/cca00347.i
GNU CPP version 2.6.3 (80386, BSD syntax)
#include "..." search starts here:
#include <...> search starts here:
 /usr/local/include
 /usr/i486-linuxaout/include
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linuxaout/2.6.3/include
 /usr/include
End of search list.
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Package: mawk
Version: 1.2.2-1

Mawk doesn't report an error when writing to a full filesystem:

	$ mawk '{print}' < /etc/motd > /dev/full
	$ echo $?
	0

Probably no write error is catched. Gawk does it's job correct:

	$ gawk '{print}' < /etc/motd > /dev/full
	gawk: cmd. line:1: (FILENAME=- FNR=9) warning: error writing standard output (No space left on device)

Regards
	Herbert.


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Package: base
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/etc/passwd has
majordom:*:30:30:majordomo:/var/majordomo:/bin/sh

The group should be `majordom', not `majordomo'.


Guy


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Package: bind
Version: 4.9.3-P1-3

If you say yes at the appropriate prompt, bindconfig will create zones
called `localhost' and `0.0.127.in-addr.arpa'.  This is correct, but it
could go further -- all of 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback, so it could provide the
`127.in-addr.arpa' zone with one entry, `1.0.0 IN PTR localhost.'.

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Does anybody have or know where I can find the msql 1.0.14 packages?
The newer ones don't seem to work (for me at least) at all.

Please respond by email or copy me on any reply as I have not been able
to resubscribe to the debian-devel list lately.  <sigh>

                                        Brian
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I have been trying to use dpkg --compare-versions in a perl script I am
working on. The command seems to execute ok, but I get nothing back from
it. How do I tell if the command has been successful or not?

TIA,

Dwarf

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Package: msql
Version: 1.0.16-2

When I try to run any of the msql programs, it fails to connect to remote
databases.  Connecting to these from a 1.0.14 client works fine.

$ relshow -h gate
Connect: Connection refused

Error connecting to database : Can't connect to MSQL server on gate

                                        Brian
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On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Erik B Andersen wrote:

> Package: util-linux
> Version: 2.5-5
> 
> /sbin/clock seg. faults.  The following illustrates this problem:

I can't duplicate this.  I'm running 2.0.15, libc5.2.18-10.  I skipped
2.0.14 but doubt that that's the problem.  Are you on a m68k perhaps?
There were some changes made to clock for that system.

So please try 2.0.15 just in case, and if that doesn't help, email me
the gzipped, uuencoded, coredump.  Email it directly to me; there's no
reason to clutter the bug-system with it.


Guy


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You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
> ...
> > The GNU configure scripts usually match on i[3456]86-*-*) for
> > architecture support, so that's not a problem.
> > 
> > I usually do something like:
> > 
> > a = $(shell dpkg --print-architecture)
> > 
> > ifeq (i386,$(a))
> > arch = i486-debian-linux
> > else
> > arch = $(a)-debian-linux
> ...
> 
> Should I provide a command to do this automatically ?
> 
> dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture perhaps.

Sure, why not. It would result in more consistency, and that's
a Good Thing (TM)

Mike.
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'Maarten Boekhold wrote:'
>
>On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Joey Hess wrote:
>
>> Package: slrn
>> Version: 0.8.8.4-1
>> 
>> This version of slrn appears to depend on a version of slang-lib that's
>> not been packaged yet. slang-lib_0.99.23-1 is the newest version of slang
>> I can find as a .deb on ftp.debian.org.
>> 
>> Am I missing something?

I only put slang-lib0931.deb at
http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf/debian/slang-lib09931-1.deb or
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf/debian.  I'm hoping to get slang-09933
out, but I've been plagued by hardware problems and too much
consulting work.

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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.2.13elf

I'm running dselect in an xterm. I go to the "[S]elect" part of it, and
the up and down addor keys scroll through the list of packages. But when I
type "/mosaic\n", to search for mosaic, the arrow keys stop working.
ctrl-p and ctrl-n still work, as do pageup and pagedown and all the other
keys, except for the up and down arrows.

(I have this in Xresources to set up proper key movement characters in an
xterm:

*VT100.Translations: #override <Key>BackSpace:  string(0x7F)\n\
        <Key>Delete:            string(0x04)\n\
        <Key>Home:              string(0x1b) string("[1~")\n\
        <Key>End:               string(0x1b) string("[4~")\n\
        Ctrl<Key>Prior:         string(0x1b) string("[40~")\n\
        Ctrl<Key>Next:          string(0x1b) string("[41~")

)
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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Chris Fearnley wrote:
> 
> I only put slang-lib0931.deb at
> http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf/debian/slang-lib09931-1.deb or
> ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf/debian.  I'm hoping to get slang-09933
> out, but I've been plagued by hardware problems and too much
> consulting work.

Well, it's good to know where it is. Any reason you don't want it uploaded
to master.debian.org? (The package name seems screwy to me, but maybe it's
intentional?)

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Just an idea, no flames, etc intended:

Could maintainers who have packages that create directories/etc in
/usr/local make sure they do it in a way that is friendly to
nfs-mounted /usr/local?

Example:

On all of our debian 1.1 machines, /usr/local is an nfs mounted
directory, and on all but one of these machines it is mounted
root-squash for security reasons.  Attempting to install packages
with components in /usr/local (usually empty directories) fails on
these machines:

bash# dpkg -i emacs*
(Reading database ... 23142 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace emacs (using emacs-19.34-1.i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement emacs ...
dpkg: error processing emacs-19.34-1.i386.deb (--install):
 failed to rmdir/unlink `/usr/local/lib.dpkg-new': Permission denied
Setting up emacs-el (19.34-1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 emacs-19.34-1.i386.deb

Since packages generally don't install anything other than empty dirs
in /usr/local, can't this be handled in a way that makes it easier for
those of us trying to maintain many debian machines?



-- 
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Guy Maor wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Erik B Andersen wrote:
> > Package: util-linux
> > Version: 2.5-5
> >
> > /sbin/clock seg. faults.  The following illustrates this problem:
> 
> I can't duplicate this.  I'm running 2.0.15, libc5.2.18-10.  I skipped
> 2.0.14 but doubt that that's the problem.  Are you on a m68k perhaps?
> There were some changes made to clock for that system.

I just ran into this problem myself.  There are at least two serious
problems with clock when the real-time clock device is enabled in the
kernel.  The following patch fixes them for me.

David
-- 
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(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081


--- clock.c.orig	Mon Aug 26 10:26:53 1996
+++ clock.c	Mon Aug 26 10:31:38 1996
@@ -365,7 +365,7 @@
     }
 
     /* Read the RTC time/date */
-    retval = ioctl(cmos_fd, RTC_RD_TIME, &tm);
+    retval = ioctl(cmos_fd, RTC_RD_TIME, tm);
     if (retval == -1) {
       perror("ioctl");
       exit(errno);
@@ -463,7 +463,7 @@
 
     int retval;
 
-    retval = ioctl(cmos_fd, RTC_SET_TIME, tmp);
+    retval = ioctl(cmos_fd, RTC_SET_TIME, tm);
     if (retval == -1) {
       perror("ioctl");
       exit(errno);


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Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> I have been trying to use dpkg --compare-versions in a perl script I am
> working on. The command seems to execute ok, but I get nothing back from
> it. How do I tell if the command has been successful or not?

Check the value of $CHILD_ERROR (or $? if you haven't declared "use
English;")

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Package: netpbm
Version: 1994.03.01p1-5.i386.deb

N.B.: I earlier sent this to pixar, but resubmit an UPDATED account because
I.Jackson in the debian-user maillist indicated communication problems there.

This is a preliminary package from /Incoming/, and indeed some things don't
work. Specifically, from my Debian-1.1.1 CD, 'ppmforge' or 'ppmforge
-clouds' crashes with a segmentation violation. Since I didn't find the
source for this particular package, I can only make a suggestion on how to
fix it. From a repository I got an 1994 edition of netpbm sources. These
generate a huge amount of warnings during compilation (with gcc), but when
you turn '--pedantic' off in the Makefile, the remainder is tolerable.

'ppmforge' from this collection crashes as well.
The reason is, that calculations are done on an n*n matrix. However, there
is an interpolation whose loop will look at line n+1 . I increased the
matrix to [(n+1)*(n+1)+1), and filled the extras with the first line. That
trick worked fine.

So this is just a reminder that if someone is going to work on netpbm|pbmplus.
        Good luck,
                Tom "thriving on chaos" Peters (a.peters@a1.nl)


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Package: gimp-smotif
Version: 0.54.1-2

N.B.: I earlier sent this to pixar, but resubmit because I.Jackson in the
debian-user maillist indicated communication problems there.
I installed Debian-1.1.1 (dd. 12-july-1996). The static version of GIMP is
lacking many files, notably /usr/doc/examples/dot.gimprc : without that gimp
will not start. Also /usr/doc/gimp/ and /usr/info/gimp.info.gz are missing
from this package. These files are available from the separate gimp-dmotif
package, but those are in conflict with each other (not dependent). One has
to install _dmotif, and remove it (keeping the config) while at the same
time installing _smotif.
I think the config and docs should be added to the _smotif package as well.
Also a man page would be much appreciated.


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Package: uucp
Version: any

N.B.: I earlier sent this to pixar, but resubmit because I.Jackson in the
debian-user maillist indicated communication problems there.

Not really a bug, but something I think ought to be changed in the
configuration:
The Debian uucp package comes without any configuration files installed.
Information on the configuration files is incomplete and misleading.

UUCP in Taylor configuration should have a 'config' file in /usr/lib/uucp/
or something. Debian and FSSTND like to put all that in /etc/, so /etc/uucp/
is a good choice. However, there is only a crontab file there.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/uucp.conffiles mentions files: Devices, Dialers,
Permissions, Systems, and crontab.

I constructed the files 'Systems' and 'Dialers' (modeled after 'sys' and
'dial' from the UUCP info). However, 'uucico' complains "Systems: cannot
open file". I changed ownership, permsissions etc. of 'Systems' and
/etc/uucp/: same result. Then I renamed the files to the canonical 'sys' and
'dial': that worked! I added files 'call' and 'port' according to docs; I
don't know what files 'Devices' and 'Permissions' are supposed to be.

So would you PLEASE
- document the names and locations of the files the UUCP programs are
looking for, including ownership and permissions.
- change the error messages to be consistent with the files actually used.

        Sincerely,
                Tom Peters


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Package: X11?
Version: ?

N.B.: I earlier sent this to pixar, but resubmit because I.Jackson in the
debian-user maillist indicated communication problems there.
I Installed Debian-1.1.1 (dd. 12 july 1996). The default bitmap directory
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ contains only 2 bitmaps, whereas ../pixmaps/
contains much more. Programs like 'bitmap' complain at startup:
Warning: Cannot converet string "menu12" to type Pixmap
etc. for many other icons.
Note: I installed many and de-installed some with 'dselect'; maybe somehow
the bitmaps got lost in the process? Of course I never de-installed X .


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Package: dpkg
version: 1.3.9

richard@sfere:richard$ ls -l /usr/man/man1/dpkg-*          
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-buildpackage.1 -> dpkg-source.1
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         2438 Aug 24 19:19 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-deb.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-distaddfile.1 -> dpkg-source.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-genchanges.1 -> dpkg-source.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-gencontrol.1 -> dpkg-source.1
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         1611 Aug 24 19:19 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-name.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-parsechangelog.1 -> dpkg-source.1
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 25 14:50 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-shlibdeps.1 -> dpkg-source.1
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root         6283 Aug 24 19:19 /usr/man/man1/dpkg-source.1.gz
richard@sfere:richard$ man dpkg-shlibdeps
No manual entry for dpkg-shlibdeps

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Thanks for the report.  Some of this has been fixed in revision 3
(which should be available), but there are still a couple of
outstanding issues.  I'm going to try to prepare a new revision in
about a week.

--
Rob


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In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:19:00 -0000."
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:30:12 -0400
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Ian Jackson wrote:
> Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copy
right ?"):
> ...
> > Pine is in non-free because it's copyright places restrictions on the
> > distribution of source. Xforms has more severe restrictions on the
> > distribution of source than pine does. It is my understanding that this
> > source distribution restriction is what makes Xforms' proper location to
> > be non-free.
> 
> Please read chapter 2 of the new policy manual.
> 

This is my synopsis of the relevant parts of Chapter 2:

Packages go into contrib if their copyrights or patents require that they:
a.  allow distribution of no source code 
b.  allow distribution of only some source code, but not all the source code
    needed to compile the program (even given the existence of other sources
    in the Debian distribution).
c.  depend on a non-free or contrib package in order to be used
d.  allow use only for a trial period
e.  lack vital functionality
f.  are installer packages
g.  fail to meet some other policy requirement

Packages go into non-free if their copyrights or patents require that they:
h.  disallow distribution for profit
i.  disallow distribution on certain media
j.  disallow distribution except if special permission is obtained
k.  have "any other onerous conditions".


My reactions:

Condition (a) is redundant, given condition (b).

It is not clear either what is meant by condition (k), nor how condition 
(k) differs from condition (g).  Without such a distinction, non-free 
and contrib overlap.

The word "onerous" in condition (k) would seem inconsistent with 
the Debian objective to be "a base upon which value-added 
GNU/Linux distributions can be built."


Susan Kleinmann


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>/etc/passwd has
>majordom:*:30:30:majordomo:/var/majordomo:/bin/sh
>
>The group should be `majordom', not `majordomo'.

All else aside, the correct passwd line is:

    majordom:*:<uid>:<gid>::/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/sh

There should be no such directory as /var/majordomo; it certainly
doesn't appear in the Majordomo package, nor is it likely to do so in
the near future.  If it appears in any package then it is a bug in
that package.

I see no point in having anything at all in the comment field.

The correct group line is:

    majordom::<gid>:

ttfn/rjk


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Subject: Bug#4304: Wrong .el files in emacs?
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Package: emacs-el
Version: 19.34-1

It appears that some of the lisp files included in emacs-19.34-1
and emacs-el 19.34-1 differ from the official distribution.

emacs*deb were download from ftp.debian.org at 9 pm CDT. 
emacs-19.34.tar.gz was obtain from prep.ai.mit.edu at 9:30 CDT.

For an example, forms.el differs:  (and the version including in the
.deb does not work)

Were some of the .el and .elc files deliberately changed?

<133 bofh:~ >diff emacs-19.34/lisp/forms.el
/usr/lib/emacs/19.34/lisp/forms.el
295c295
< (defconst forms-version (substring "$Revision: 2.29 $" 11 -2)
---
> (defconst forms-version (substring "$Revision: 1.1.1.1 $" 11 -2)
298c298
<   $Id: forms.el,v 2.29 1996/03/01 21:13:01 jvromans Exp $")
---
>   $Id: forms.el,v 1.1.1.1 1996/07/04 01:09:13 eichin Exp $"

Here are the versions:

<136 bofh:~ >ls -la emacs-19.34.tar.gz emacs-el-19.34-1.all.deb
-rw-r--r--   1 kaszeta  user     10925984 Aug 22 01:35 emacs-19.34.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 kaszeta  user      3060352 Aug 26 21:22 emacs-el-19.34-1.all.deb


-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu			University of MN, ME Dept
http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta



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It didn't core dump on me, but it _did_ start going into an infinite
loop when the xterm reached around 180 columns. On investigation, the
problem appears to be the typedef:


typedef string char[160];


If the xterm is wider than around 160 characters, overruns start to
occur. This is Not a Good Thing(tm). Fixing this is not incredibly
difficult, but it _is_ tedious - I had a quick try yesterday, and
ncftp definitely started core dumping with the quick and dirty fix
I tried. *sighs*

Anybody want to forward this bug report (with this note attached :-)
to the upstream author? (the submitter was correct when he said he
thought it was an ncftp bug - it most definitely is.) In the worst
case, I'll submit a diff around the end of the year. (don't have time
before then to even _think_ about fiddling around with code that's
not mine to worry about. :-)


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> Package: aout-gcc
> Version: 2.6.3-13
> 
FYI, the aout-gcc file is in:  
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linuxaout/2.6.3/cc1

Susan Kleinmann


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Eek!  I made a goof in a package I'm putting together and dpkg let me get
away with it.

The problem was that I saved a man page as "/usr/man/man1" instead of
the correct name "/usr/man/man1/manpage.1".  Dpkg noticed the conflict,
but went ahead and toasted the 'man1' directory anyway.

It seems dpkg still has the "--force" option enabled for files found in
multiple packages and so went ahead with the overwrite.

Can we remove this force?  Alternatively, could we make it so entire
directories can't be replaced by a single file?
                                                  
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Package: metamail
Version: 2.7-6

# dpkg --configure metamail
Setting up metamail (2.7-6) ...
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
/usr/sbin/install-mime: Unknown option '--quiet'
...
dpkg: error processing metamail (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 metamail

Susan Kleinmann


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Brian C. White wrote:
> Eek!  I made a goof in a package I'm putting together and dpkg let me get
> away with it.

It was fixed in dpkg 1.3.9 - someone else was already bitten.  :-)

>From what I understand, the directory should not be gone - just renamed.

				Warwick

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Package: gs
Version: 4.01-2

A rectangle drawn with rounded corners from xfig is not displayed
correctly with gs 4.01-2.

The following patch is supposed to fix this, according to an article
I read in the news.

*** gspath1.c.orig      Fri Jul 26 09:17:35 1996
--- gspath1.c   Fri Jul 26 09:18:35 1996
***************
*** 170,176 ****
                        yt0 = ay1 + dy0 * l0;
                        xt2 = ax1 + dx2 * l2;
                        yt2 = ay1 + dy2 * l2;
!                       code = arc_add(pgs, true, arad, xt0, yt0, xt2, yt2, ax1, ay1);
                   }
           }
        if ( retxy != 0 )
--- 170,176 ----
                        yt0 = ay1 + dy0 * l0;
                        xt2 = ax1 + dx2 * l2;
                        yt2 = ay1 + dy2 * l2;
!                       code = arc_add(pgs, arc_lineto, arad, xt0, yt0, xt2, yt2, ax1, ay1);
                   }
           }
        if ( retxy != 0 )

Here's an example which triggers the bug.

#!/bin/sh
# This is a shell archive (produced by GNU sharutils 4.2).
# To extract the files from this archive, save it to some FILE, remove
# everything before the `!/bin/sh' line above, then type `sh FILE'.
#
# Made on 1996-08-27 10:47 MET DST by <ig25@mvmap83>.
# Source directory was `/home/ig25'.
#
# Existing files will *not* be overwritten unless `-c' is specified.
#
# This shar contains:
# length mode       name
# ------ ---------- ------------------------------------------
#   2790 -rw-r----- unnamed.eps
#    130 -rw-r----- unnamed.fig
#
save_IFS="${IFS}"
IFS="${IFS}:"
gettext_dir=FAILED
locale_dir=FAILED
first_param="$1"
for dir in $PATH
do
  if test "$gettext_dir" = FAILED && test -f $dir/gettext \
     && ($dir/gettext --version >/dev/null 2>&1)
  then
    set `$dir/gettext --version 2>&1`
    if test "$3" = GNU
    then
      gettext_dir=$dir
    fi
  fi
  if test "$locale_dir" = FAILED && test -f $dir/shar \
     && ($dir/shar --print-text-domain-dir >/dev/null 2>&1)
  then
    locale_dir=`$dir/shar --print-text-domain-dir`
  fi
done
IFS="$save_IFS"
if test "$locale_dir" = FAILED || test "$gettext_dir" = FAILED
then
  echo=echo
else
  TEXTDOMAINDIR=$locale_dir
  export TEXTDOMAINDIR
  TEXTDOMAIN=sharutils
  export TEXTDOMAIN
  echo="$gettext_dir/gettext -s"
fi
touch -am 1231235999 $$.touch >/dev/null 2>&1
if test ! -f 1231235999 && test -f $$.touch; then
  shar_touch=touch
else
  shar_touch=:
  echo
  $echo 'WARNING: not restoring timestamps.  Consider getting and'
  $echo "installing GNU \`touch', distributed in GNU File Utilities..."
  echo
fi
rm -f 1231235999 $$.touch
#
if mkdir _sh19142; then
  $echo 'x -' 'creating lock directory'
else
  $echo 'failed to create lock directory'
  exit 1
fi
# ============= unnamed.eps ==============
if test -f 'unnamed.eps' && test "$first_param" != -c; then
  $echo 'x -' SKIPPING 'unnamed.eps' '(file already exists)'
else
  $echo 'x -' extracting 'unnamed.eps' '(binary)'
  sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' | uudecode &&
begin 600 unnamed.eps
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SHAR_EOF
  $shar_touch -am 0827104396 'unnamed.eps' &&
  chmod 0640 'unnamed.eps' ||
  $echo 'restore of' 'unnamed.eps' 'failed'
  if ( md5sum --help 2>&1 | grep 'sage: md5sum \[' ) >/dev/null 2>&1 \
  && ( md5sum --version 2>&1 | grep -v 'textutils 1.12' ) >/dev/null; then
    md5sum -c << SHAR_EOF >/dev/null 2>&1 \
    || $echo 'unnamed.eps:' 'MD5 check failed'
d1552e8761be4db8312cb97d8dfb0ffc  unnamed.eps
SHAR_EOF
  else
    shar_count="`LC_ALL= LC_CTYPE= LANG= wc -c < 'unnamed.eps'`"
    test 2790 -eq "$shar_count" ||
    $echo 'unnamed.eps:' 'original size' '2790,' 'current size' "$shar_count!"
  fi
fi
# ============= unnamed.fig ==============
if test -f 'unnamed.fig' && test "$first_param" != -c; then
  $echo 'x -' SKIPPING 'unnamed.fig' '(file already exists)'
else
  $echo 'x -' extracting 'unnamed.fig' '(text)'
  sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > 'unnamed.fig' &&
#FIG 3.1
Landscape
Center
Inches
1200 2
2 4 0 1 -1 7 0 0 -1 0.000 0 0 7 0 0 5
X	 2400 2325 2400 1275 1050 1275 1050 2325 2400 2325
SHAR_EOF
  $shar_touch -am 0827104396 'unnamed.fig' &&
  chmod 0640 'unnamed.fig' ||
  $echo 'restore of' 'unnamed.fig' 'failed'
  if ( md5sum --help 2>&1 | grep 'sage: md5sum \[' ) >/dev/null 2>&1 \
  && ( md5sum --version 2>&1 | grep -v 'textutils 1.12' ) >/dev/null; then
    md5sum -c << SHAR_EOF >/dev/null 2>&1 \
    || $echo 'unnamed.fig:' 'MD5 check failed'
185a0d8b3fb93b6b8b8201ac341071cc  unnamed.fig
SHAR_EOF
  else
    shar_count="`LC_ALL= LC_CTYPE= LANG= wc -c < 'unnamed.fig'`"
    test 130 -eq "$shar_count" ||
    $echo 'unnamed.fig:' 'original size' '130,' 'current size' "$shar_count!"
  fi
fi
rm -fr _sh19142
exit 0
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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

I pasted a 256 character string from my Emacs into an xterm running
`telnet localhost' and it froze.  I did the same with a 257 character
string and it also froze, but didn't echo the 257th character.

255 characters did not freeze it.

Connecting to other Debian systems via telnet also displays this
behaviour; but rlogin does not display this behaviour.  ^] quit still
worked.  It's these two thins that make me believe it's the telnet
daemon that is at fault.

muskogee:richard$ uname -a
Linux muskogee 2.0.13 #1 Tue Aug 20 18:45:22 BST 1996 i486
muskogee:richard$ ldd /usr/bin/telnet
        libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
muskogee:richard$ ldd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd 
        libncurses.so.3.0 => /lib/libncurses.so.3.0
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
muskogee:richard$ dpkg -l libc5
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  libc5           5.2.18-9       The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
muskogee:richard$ dpkg -l ncurses3.0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  ncurses3.0      1.9.9e-1       Video terminal manipulation: shared librarie

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Package: ssh
Version: 1.2.13-2

I pasted a 256 character string from my Emacs into an xterm running
`ssh chiark' and it froze.  I did the same with a 257 character string
and it also froze, but didn't echo the 257th character.  255
characters did not freeze it.  Killing the session with ``RETURN ~ .''
worked.

See also my recent bug report against netstd.  It's possible that
these two bugs are related, though I find it entirely plausible that
they are separate errors.

muskogee:richard$ uname -a
Linux muskogee 2.0.13 #1 Tue Aug 20 18:45:22 BST 1996 i486
muskogee:richard$ su -c "ldd /usr/bin/ssh"
Password:
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1.0.3
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
muskogee:richard$ dpkg -l libc5
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  libc5           5.2.18-9       The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
muskogee:richard$ dpkg -l zlib1
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  zlib1           1.03-1         compression library - runtime
muskogee:richard$ 

At the server end (which has the same version of the ssh package):

chiark:richard$ uname -a
Linux chiark 2.0.0 #4 Sun Jul 14 00:57:42 BST 1996 i486
chiark:richard$ ldd /usr/sbin/sshd
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1.0.2
        libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5.2.18
chiark:richard$ dpkg -l libc5
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  libc5           5.2.18-9       The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr
chiark:richard$ dpkg -l zlib1
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name            Version        Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii  zlib1           1.02-3         compression library - runtime
chiark:richard$ 

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Ian Jackson writes:
> Can we please have a statement on what we should do ?
> 
> I think we should post the release announcements to debian-changes as
> well has having the summary postings.
> 
> If people want just the summaries we should provide a separate list.

I second all of that.

Michael

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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca writes:
> May I humbly suggest that we establish some sort of policy regarding packages
> that obsolete and can be retired?

Yes, please!

> I have argued before that a2ps and a2gs are effectively replaced by
> genscript, and that we should remove them. I think a similar case could be
> made for xosview as we now have procmeter. 
> 
> Opinions?

Remove them.

Michael

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Susan G. Kleinmann writes:
> 
> Package: metamail
> Version: 2.7-6

Oops, wrong depends line. Please upgrade your mime-support package.

Michael 

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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, joost witteveen wrote:

> > Xosview only reads the file XOSView (and ~/.Xdefaults) when evaluating 
> > its X resources. It does this by doing all the reading by foot (calling
> > XrmGetFileDatabase() etc.). 
> > This is IMO the wrong way to do it; the application should use 
> > XtGetApplicationResources() (as xsysinfo does it). 
> 
> You're absolutely right.
> 
> The upstream maintainer disagrees (well, he agrees, but doesn't want
> to change it, AFAIK).
> 
> do you want me to 
>   1 move xosview to 'contrib', and stop maintaining it
>   2 just go on maintaining a broken xosview?
> 
> Sometimes, I really don't know what to do.

In general, unless you particularly want to do something about the
problem yourself, I'd vote for (2). Note that there's now a procmeter
package which displays the same information as xosview and more...

(S)


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Peter Tobias writes ("Re: dpkg 1.3.8: dpkg-buildpackage -sa works and is recommended"):
...
> No problem. The archive with the original sources would be my own
> collection of original sources then ...

Yes, that's right.

Ian.


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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"):
...
> I have no problem with it being mode 4750 again.

It should be 4754 - there's no point in stopping people reading it.
(I've been saying 4754 all along, and this is what is in the policy
manual.)

...
> No problem with me. But just in case I let the group check in (since it's in
> the upstream source anyway).

Err, I strongly suggest that you compile the group check out of the
executable.  This is only likely to lead to confusion.

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You (A.R.\) wrote:
> Version: any
> 
> N.B.: I earlier sent this to pixar, but resubmit because I.Jackson in the
> debian-user maillist indicated communication problems there.
> 
> Not really a bug, but something I think ought to be changed in the
> configuration:
> The Debian uucp package comes without any configuration files installed.
> Information on the configuration files is incomplete and misleading.

Just copy /usr/doc/examples/uucp/taylor/* to /etc/uucp

Mike.
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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
>... Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have
> only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it,
> the essential field had been declaired a bug, but the discussion of that
> bug seemed to indicate that removal of the essential flag was not a
> sufficient solution. In addition, I am concerned by the fact that this
> field was only added to the package a couple of revisions ago, and now
> needs to be removed. 

The fact that the field was added was a mistake, and it was noticed
and reported as a bug (several times, in fact).  It is not surprising
that once a mistake is made people ask for it to be unmade again.

I didn't see anything in that discussion to think that the removal of
the essential flag wasn't a full solution.  I saw several people with
the `hammer and nail' problem: `we have dependencies so we must use
them here'.

> I don't see any difference, in principle, between an editor and a
> mail-delivery-agent. They are both programs that deliver specific
> functionality. The only differnce I can see is that an editor may not be
> viewed as being as critical to system operations as the other, and Ian has
> pointed out that users are likely to be more aware of their needs for an
> editor than they are for other dependant programs. I am pretty sure that
> we have users who are not this aware, but that is not the basis for my
> feelings here. 

If we have users who are not aware of this then they will not be
satisfied by `vi' or `ed' either - and these programs will have to
satisfy the dependency.  We can't solve this problem with the
dependency mechanism.

> Ae is in the base package because it was deemed necessary to have an
> editor in the system, and ae was small enough to fit. It is this necessity
> that is driving the editor virtual package dependance as the proposed
> solution. If it is not necessary for the system to contain an editor, then
> why is one in the base system?

The base system is provided as a tool for installing the rest of the
packages, and is supposed to be a sensible default.

Both the essential flag and the dependency mechanism actually
_prevent_ the user from doing something, and we should only do this if
we really mean it.

>... If it is necessary for an editor to be on
> the system, it seems desirable to provide protections from the inadvertant
> removal of all editors. If there is a better way to insure the existance
> of an editor on the system, I would be happy to hear it.

What terrible thing do you think will happen if the user removes all
their editors ?  They'll sit there wanting to edit a file and think
  Damn, I can't figure out why I can't edit this file.  I just sit
  here blankly and wonder how I used to edit files.
?

> In addition, it is not clear to me that being unnecessary is the same as
> undesirable. I can be convinced (no, really!) of either position at this
> point. I just need a little more 'splaining.

For it to be right for us to do this there has to be a good reason in
favour of it.  It is not sufficient for it merely to be neutral.

In any case, it isn't neutral: it is a lot of work, and while the work
is done silly things will happen like users being forced to install
particular editors to satisfy the dependency scheme.

Ian.


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Juergen Menden writes to me in private email:
...
> well, unfortunately some packages (like ldso) need i386-linux and
> wouldn't like to match i486-linux. better might be

ld.so is not a GNU package, is it ?  It probably uses our own
canonical architecture strings, which include i386 for intel, and
which is generated by dpkg --print-architecture.

I'm only putting the --print-gnu-build-architecture flag in because
the many GNU packages all need the same mapping from our to their
architecture.

>   dpkg --print-architecture --intel-arch=i486
> (with --intel-arch=i386 being the default)

This is a hack, which I will not implement.

Ian.


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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
> You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
> > Should I provide a command to do this automatically ?
> > 
> > dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture perhaps.
> 
> Sure, why not. It would result in more consistency, and that's
> a Good Thing (TM)

This will be in 1.3.11.  Can anyone think of a reasonable thing to say
in the policy manual about when and how to use it ?

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Miquel van Smoorenburg writes ("Re: Bug#4218: Problems removing INN"):
> You (Ian Jackson) wrote:
...
> > Would it be better if I made dpkg treat [EBUSY] as a warning ?
> > (It happens one of the directories in a package is a mount point).
> 
> Yes, I think so. Every directory can be a potential mountpoint.

This will be in 1.3.11.

Ian.


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Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on lyx/copyright ? "):
...
> This is my synopsis of the relevant parts of Chapter 2:
> 
> Packages go into contrib if their copyrights or patents require that they:
> a.  allow distribution of no source code 
> b.  allow distribution of only some source code, but not all the source code
>     needed to compile the program (even given the existence of other sources
>     in the Debian distribution).
> c.  depend on a non-free or contrib package in order to be used
> d.  allow use only for a trial period
> e.  lack vital functionality
> f.  are installer packages
> g.  fail to meet some other policy requirement
> 
> Packages go into non-free if their copyrights or patents require that they:
> h.  disallow distribution for profit
> i.  disallow distribution on certain media
> j.  disallow distribution except if special permission is obtained
> k.  have "any other onerous conditions".
> 
> 
> My reactions:
> 
> Condition (a) is redundant, given condition (b).

Yes, if you think about them like that.  I haven't expressed it quite
that way.

> It is not clear either what is meant by condition (k), nor how condition 
> (k) differs from condition (g).  Without such a distinction, non-free 
> and contrib overlap.

(k) is there as a catch-all, in case someone comes up with another
example of a bad thing in a copyright.

non-free and contrib do overlap - they are intended to.  The way I
have phrased it makes it clear that if a package meets the bad
criteria for needing to be in non-free, and those for contrib, it must
go in non-free.

> The word "onerous" in condition (k) would seem inconsistent with 
> the Debian objective to be "a base upon which value-added 
> GNU/Linux distributions can be built."

I don't understand this at all.

Ian.


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>>>>> Richard Kaszeta writes:

> Just an idea, no flames, etc intended: Could maintainers who have
> packages that create directories/etc in /usr/local make sure they do
> it in a way that is friendly to nfs-mounted /usr/local?

I second that! AMOF i did bring that up some time ago, but somehow we
couldn't find a common policy.

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David Engel wrote:

>> $ gcc -bi486-linuxaout hello.c 
>> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory

>This isn't a bug.

To change a bug into a feature, it needs to be documented.

>If you want to call the a.out compiler using the
>ELF front-end, you have to explicitly specify the version also as in:
>
>	gcc -bi486-linuxaout -V2.6.3

Any reason why this should not go into the package description?
Other people than me are going to stumble across that particular
problem.
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Joey Hess writes ("Bug#4298: arrow keys in dselect don't work after search"):
...
> I'm running dselect in an xterm. I go to the "[S]elect" part of it, and
> the up and down addor keys scroll through the list of packages. But when I
> type "/mosaic\n", to search for mosaic, the arrow keys stop working.
> ctrl-p and ctrl-n still work, as do pageup and pagedown and all the other
> keys, except for the up and down arrows.

This is a four-month-old bug in ncurses, which has previously been
reported as #2962 and #3974.  I'm reassigning it to ncurses3.0 and
merging it with those others.

Ian.


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Thomas Koenig writes:
> David Engel wrote:
> >> $ gcc -bi486-linuxaout hello.c 
> >> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory
> 
> >This isn't a bug.
> 
> To change a bug into a feature, it needs to be documented.

This has been documented for ages.  From the gcc man page (the info
file has a similar passage):

       -V version
              The argument version specifies which version of GNU
              CC  to  run.  This is useful when multiple versions
              are  installed.   For  example,  version  might  be
              `2.0', meaning to run GNU CC version 2.0.

              The  default version, when you do not specify `-V',
              is controlled by the way GNU CC is installed.  Nor-
              mally, it will be a version that is recommended for
              general use.

> >If you want to call the a.out compiler using the
> >ELF front-end, you have to explicitly specify the version also as in:
> >
> >	gcc -bi486-linuxaout -V2.6.3
> 
> Any reason why this should not go into the package description?
> Other people than me are going to stumble across that particular
> problem.

Yes, as far as I'm concerned, the a.out development packages are in a
deprecated state.  They are provided as is, and unless someone is in
an absolute dire situation, I don't intend to provide any more support
for them.

David
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Regarding the -r option for dpkg-buildpackage, are there any examples of what's
called for here?  Is the gain-root-command something each developer provides
for himself, or is there a command or shell somewhere that performs this
function?

Invoked as root, dpkg-buildpackage works fine.  But when I try to unpack the
new package this is what happens:

mycroft$ dpkg-source -x exmh_1.6.9-1.dsc
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This happens with the packages I build and with the hello package I downloaded
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Ian Jackson:
> What terrible thing do you think will happen if the user removes all
> their editors ?  They'll sit there wanting to edit a file and think
>   Damn, I can't figure out why I can't edit this file.  I just sit
>   here blankly and wonder how I used to edit files.
> ?

Yes.

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Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca writes:
> May I humbly suggest that we establish some sort of policy regarding packages
> that obsolete and can be retired?

Propose that the package be made obsolete on debian-devel.  After the
discussion is resolved, file a bug against ftp.debian.org to make the
change.

Just because packages provide similiar functionality doesn't mean that
one is obsolete.  You'd have to make the case that one package really
is superior in every way to another.


Guy


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> >From what I understand, the directory should not be gone - just renamed.

Any idea what to?  I can't find it.  It's not a big deal as I had a
backup I could restore from.
                                                  
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On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, joost witteveen wrote:

> I'm closing this bug, as I cannot do anything about it, and
> the upstream maintainer doesn't care.

Those aren't appropriate reasons for closing bugs.  Hopefully one day
the bug will really be resolved.

(reopening the bug)

Guy


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Ian Jackson writes:

> Susan G. Kleinmann writes ("Re: Bruce - fiat required to end discussion on ly
x/copyright ? "):
> ...
> > This is my synopsis of the relevant parts of Chapter 2:
> > 
> > Packages go into contrib if their copyrights or patents require that they:
> > a.  allow distribution of no source code 
> > b.  allow distribution of only some source code, but not all the source cod
e
> >     needed to compile the program (even given the existence of other source
s
> >     in the Debian distribution).
> > c.  depend on a non-free or contrib package in order to be used
> > d.  allow use only for a trial period
> > e.  lack vital functionality
> > f.  are installer packages
> > g.  fail to meet some other policy requirement
> > 
> > Packages go into non-free if their copyrights or patents require that they:
> > h.  disallow distribution for profit
> > i.  disallow distribution on certain media
> > j.  disallow distribution except if special permission is obtained
> > k.  have "any other onerous conditions".
> > 
> > 
> > My reactions:
> > 
> > Condition (a) is redundant, given condition (b).
> 
> Yes, if you think about them like that.  I haven't expressed it quite
> that way.
> 
> > It is not clear either what is meant by condition (k), nor how condition 
> > (k) differs from condition (g).  Without such a distinction, non-free 
> > and contrib overlap.
> 
> (k) is there as a catch-all, in case someone comes up with another
> example of a bad thing in a copyright.
> 
> non-free and contrib do overlap - they are intended to.  The way I
> have phrased it makes it clear that if a package meets the bad
> criteria for needing to be in non-free, and those for contrib, it must
> go in non-free.
> 
> > The word "onerous" in condition (k) would seem inconsistent with 
> > the Debian objective to be "a base upon which value-added 
> > GNU/Linux distributions can be built."
> 
> I don't understand this at all.

The above several paragraphs actually echo a common theme.  The word
"onerous" is commonly taken to be perjorative; certainly the phrase
"bad criteria" is perjorative.  Therefore one interprets the category 
non-free as perjorative, rather than simply being a statement
of fact that copyright restrictions exist.  The use of such language 
is unnecessary and inconsistent with Debian's purported objective of 
being a base for value-added distributions.  To be plain about it, you don't 
normally go around telling people you think they're bad or their 
ideas are bad, and then expect to attract them to the notion of using 
your software.  

Susan Kleinmann


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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> In the postinst hostname is called with option -fqdn. However, there is no
> option 'q' nor an option 'n'.

It should be --fqdn (fully qualified domain name).


Guy


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Dominik Kubla <kubla@netz.klinik.uni-mainz.de> writes:

> I second that! AMOF i did bring that up some time ago, but somehow we
> couldn't find a common policy.

I was under the impression that either:

a) The package would ask about touching /usr/local the first time it
was installed.  After that it would know better :>

b) The package would provide a small script "foo-pkg-setup-local" that
could be run by hand to set up /usr/local.

c) There would be an /etc/usr-local or /etc/default/usr-local file that
would indicate what should always be done about /usr/local/ for this
machine.

I sort of thought we had settled on (a).  Although I would normally
expect /usr/*local* to be local, I don't see any reason not to be
friendly to unusual setups especially in the case of (c) where it
doesn't cost anything, assuming the base package puts in a reasonable
default.

(Plus there's always the restriction from the file system standard
that /usr/local be left alone.)

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>I sort of thought we had settled on (a).  Although I would normally
>expect /usr/*local* to be local, I don't see any reason not to be
>friendly to unusual setups especially in the case of (c) where it
>doesn't cost anything, assuming the base package puts in a reasonable
>default.

Well, in my case it is local, as in "local to the site".  On many unix
installations it is not uncommon for /usr/local to be a nfs mount.

Besides, aren't we supposed not make assumptions about /usr/local at
all (according to FSSTND/FHS)?

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  Dirk> May I humbly suggest that we establish some sort of policy regarding
  Dirk> packages that obsolete and can be retired?

  Guy> Propose that the package be made obsolete on debian-devel.  After the
  Guy> discussion is resolved, file a bug against ftp.debian.org to make the
  Guy> change.

I would like to have a2gs and a2ps removed. They both have the same
Description: text, and scope, "ASCII to PostScript filter".

For me, a2gs is broken. I filed bug 1112 against it [1], and this bug is
still open after 13 months. There are also bugs 3456 and 3848 against it.
a2ps does a similar thing, but is in non-free. It has bugs 1874 and 3911
against it.

Both programs are _completely surpassed_ by enscript (which used to be called
genscript), a _GPL'ed_ program that does more than a2ps and a2gs.

I propose, as I did before, that these programs get removed. Unless someone
complains, I will, as suggested, file two bugs against ftp.debian.org to have
them removed.


[1] I also filed that against gs, and it is hence listed as a gs bug.

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Hi,

> net-acct 0.4-1 does not contain any manpages nor other documentation how to
> configure the daemon.

The Documentation is installed in /usrdoc/net-acct/. According to the
Guidelines i will upload the next Package with links to undocumented(7).
(the link is already in the source, only commented out :)

Greetings
Bernd


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I've almost finished converting a whole package---the only thing I
lack is a completed .changes file.

When running dpkg-buildpackage on my testbed, I get the following:

-----8<-----
Enter pass phrase:
Pass phrase is good.
Key for user ID: Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org>
1024-bit key, Key ID 00BFA3A9, created 1996/06/14
Just a moment....+ mv -- ../ncftp_2.3.0-6.dsc.asc ../ncftp_2.3.0-6.dsc
+ dpkg-genchanges
dpkg-genchanges: error: package ncftp has section  in control file but
- in files list
----->8-----

Here, however, is the control file:

-----8<-----
Source: ncftp
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org>
Standards-Version: 0.1

Package: ncftp
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}
Description: A user-friendly and full-featured FTP client.
 This program allows a user to transfer files to and from a remote network
 site, and offers additional features that are not found in the standard
 interface, ftp.
----->8-----

And here is `files':

-----8<-----
ncftp_2.3.0-6_i386.deb - optional
----->8-----

The problem, I guess, is obvious enough, but I feel unsure of why this
is a problem (I thought we were being encouraged to leave section and
priority and all that to the archive maintainer).

Once this can be resolved, I guess my only remaining complaint would
be that the build process is (until I have time to really sit down
with the tools and explore them and exactly what they do) just a touch
on the opaque side.

Which, I suppose just proves that Ian can't satisfy everyone all at
once.

Mike.
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Ian Jackson:
> But does it use the same locking strategy as our other mailers ?

As of 0.75, the default is flock, with a fall back to lockf.

> > Additional recommendations or specifications which open the door to
> > maildir compatability (e.g. that movemail be used to retrieve locally
> > stored mail -- allowing, at worst, the administrator to set policy by
> > replacing movemail) might also be reasonable.
> 
> This can't be done sensibly for mailers like mailx, Elm and Pine which
> manipulate and leave messages in the inbox, and incurs extra delay
> with (eg) mh.

A way of casting this model into the framework of existing mailers
is that they can run movemail and set MAIL to point at the target
mailbox.

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I created an LPRng package for Debian. LPRng is an enhanced BSD-like
print spooler and is nearly compatible. (It is available at
ftp://iona.ie/pub/plp/LPRng/ ).

I'm thinking of obsoleting the lpr package by LPRng.

Pros:
- active developer mailing lists
- lot of special print filters (e.g. for HP LaseJet) exist for LPRng
- LPRng has options for distributing printcap via YP, Hesiod etc.
- better permission management

Cons:
- minor incompatibility (needs addditional flag in printcap for
  printing to BSD lpd printers)
- not as widespread as BSD lpr

What do you think about this ? I'd especially like to hear comments
from people who used BSD lpr and LPRng.

	Sven
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On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> >... Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have
> > only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it,
> > the essential field had been declaired a bug, but the discussion of that
> > bug seemed to indicate that removal of the essential flag was not a
> > sufficient solution. In addition, I am concerned by the fact that this
> > field was only added to the package a couple of revisions ago, and now
> > needs to be removed. 
> 
> The fact that the field was added was a mistake, and it was noticed
> and reported as a bug (several times, in fact).  It is not surprising
> that once a mistake is made people ask for it to be unmade again.

Well, I'm pretty sure that Bill didn't just wake up one morning and say
"Wow! That essential field sure is neat! Let's put it in ae! My assumption
was that this was an attempt to keep ae in the system.

> 
> I didn't see anything in that discussion to think that the removal of
> the essential flag wasn't a full solution.  I saw several people with
> the `hammer and nail' problem: `we have dependencies so we must use
> them here'.

I understand your perceptions of this, but I saw the discussion as trying
to find a better solution than essential (which obviously didn't work
right) to the problem of keeping an editor in the system.

> 
> > I don't see any difference, in principle, between an editor and a
> > mail-delivery-agent. They are both programs that deliver specific
> > functionality. The only differnce I can see is that an editor may not be
> > viewed as being as critical to system operations as the other, and Ian has
> > pointed out that users are likely to be more aware of their needs for an
> > editor than they are for other dependant programs. I am pretty sure that
> > we have users who are not this aware, but that is not the basis for my
> > feelings here. 
> 
> If we have users who are not aware of this then they will not be
> satisfied by `vi' or `ed' either - and these programs will have to
> satisfy the dependency.  We can't solve this problem with the
> dependency mechanism.

I'm not sure I follow any of what you just said. If we can't solve the
problem with the dependency mechanism, how then?

> 
> > Ae is in the base package because it was deemed necessary to have an
> > editor in the system, and ae was small enough to fit. It is this necessity
> > that is driving the editor virtual package dependance as the proposed
> > solution. If it is not necessary for the system to contain an editor, then
> > why is one in the base system?
> 
> The base system is provided as a tool for installing the rest of the
> packages, and is supposed to be a sensible default.
> 
> Both the essential flag and the dependency mechanism actually
> _prevent_ the user from doing something, and we should only do this if
> we really mean it.
> 
> >... If it is necessary for an editor to be on
> > the system, it seems desirable to provide protections from the inadvertant
> > removal of all editors. If there is a better way to insure the existance
> > of an editor on the system, I would be happy to hear it.
> 
> What terrible thing do you think will happen if the user removes all
> their editors ?  They'll sit there wanting to edit a file and think
>   Damn, I can't figure out why I can't edit this file.  I just sit
>   here blankly and wonder how I used to edit files.
> ?
Cute.
No, I am concerned about programs that might use $EDITOR as the means to
providing an editor. Pine, for instance, can be configured to call an
editor under certain circumstances. If no editor is available (due to
being removed) then, as we all know, pine will flash an error message for
all of 1/20th of a second and then stare at you. Emacs also has conditions
where it calls an outside editor, and I'm sure that there are others.
Problems of this type, caused by the lack of an editor will appear to be
bugs in other software. This is something to be avoided, in my estimation.

> 
> > In addition, it is not clear to me that being unnecessary is the same as
> > undesirable. I can be convinced (no, really!) of either position at this
> > point. I just need a little more 'splaining.
> 
> For it to be right for us to do this there has to be a good reason in
> favour of it.  It is not sufficient for it merely to be neutral.
> 
See above...

> In any case, it isn't neutral: it is a lot of work, and while the work
> is done silly things will happen like users being forced to install
> particular editors to satisfy the dependency scheme.
> 
Well, I don't see a LOT of work. Packages that provide an editor will only
need to add it to the Provides: field. Until some base package (or some
other package) creates a Depends: for editor this causes no problems to
the system. That is, if the concept is integrated in the proper order, no
one will know it has happened. (Until they try to remove all editors)

Later,

Dwarf

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In article <199608271019.MAA10038@feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> you write:
>Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca writes:
>> May I humbly suggest that we establish some sort of policy regarding packages
>> that obsolete and can be retired?
>
>Yes, please!
>
>> I have argued before that a2ps and a2gs are effectively replaced by
>> genscript, and that we should remove them. I think a similar case could be
>> made for xosview as we now have procmeter. 
>> 
>> Opinions?
>
>Remove them.

I'm not so convinced; while I may agree that xosview is a complete
mess, I think the user should still have the choice as to whether to
use it or procmeter.

(S)


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>I created an LPRng package for Debian. LPRng is an enhanced BSD-like
>print spooler and is nearly compatible. (It is available at
>ftp://iona.ie/pub/plp/LPRng/ ).
>
>I'm thinking of obsoleting the lpr package by LPRng.

>Cons:
>- minor incompatibility (needs addditional flag in printcap for
>  printing to BSD lpd printers)
>- not as widespread as BSD lpr

Well, if its not completely compatible with lpr (a rather
well-entrenched standard), I certainly think it *should not* obsolete
lpr.

Just my opinion...

-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
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PACKAGE: xfishtank
VERSION: 2.2-1

1. The package contains nothing but the binary. It *must* contain at least the
   copyright file. Docs would be nice.

2. It has no Depends: on libc5 or elf-x11r6lib.

3. It uses the old VERSION and PACKAGE_REVISION format which is obsolete.

-- 
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Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> (Until they try to remove all editors)

I don't want to cause trouble, but why don't we just completely
disallow the removal of ae.  It's harmless, and the entire package
only takes up 54K.  I can't see that it's worth spending another
second even thinking about.

Am I missing something?

--
Rob


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> Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca writes:
> > I have argued before that a2ps and a2gs are effectively replaced by
> > genscript, and that we should remove them. I think a similar case could be

Please don't do that. Personally, I am used to a2ps and I'm a lot more attached to my habits than to genscript :-). And I don't see why we should retire a package just because some other package with similar functionality is provided. Think of the different flavours of vi which are available as debian packages.

But I see the point that lack of interest might be a reason to retire a package. I can see two cases in which a package would be considered obsolete:

a) The package is obsolete because the functionality (in the low level sense of, say, the programs provided) is moved into some other package(s). An example would be what happened to libgr.

b) A package is orphaned for a long time and similar functionality (in the high level sense, like genscript vs. a2ps) is provided by another package available. Or the package is considered to be irrelevant for all but a small minority which doesn't express its interest. Maybe such a package should be moved into one directory like {unstable,non-free,contrib}/obsolete for a longer period (to preserve the effort of debianizing the package in case someone wants to take it up later). Eventually, packages can get purged from the obsolete directories if nobody expresses interest in maintaining them. 

By moving a package into one of the obsolete directories, the distribution maintaines and/or the developers express their opinion that a given package is not sufficiently important from their point of view. At the same time, this acts as a final call for a new maintainer to step forward and express his interest in keeping the package alive.

			Lukas

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On 27 Aug 1996, Rob Browning wrote:

> Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:
> 
> > (Until they try to remove all editors)
> 
> I don't want to cause trouble, but why don't we just completely
> disallow the removal of ae.  It's harmless, and the entire package
> only takes up 54K.  I can't see that it's worth spending another
> second even thinking about.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
Well, this brings us full circle.
Rob, the declaration of ae as essential has been declared a bug. This kept
ae from being removed which caused some to complain. The current
discussion is an attempt to move beyond this. 
Ian's position is that it doesn't matter if ae and all other editors are
removed from the system. Yours is that it doesn't matter if ae can't be
removed. I hope that we can come to some middle ground here.

Thanks,

Dwarf

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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
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The maintainer listed against each package is derived from the Maintainer
field of the package as found in the development tree; there is an override
file that can be amended to get the right results if you have taken over a
package and do not expect to issue a new version soon.

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maintainer will be listed separately.

Maintainers with few outstanding bugs appear first, to avoid those with few
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Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (1 bugs):
 unzip        4314  unzip is missing > in Maintainer field

Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 metamail     4305  metmail uses non-existent flag in postinst

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu> (1 bugs):
 make         4073  make pattern rules delete intermediate files

Brian Mays <brian@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 cpio         4072  cpio package is missing rmt.8 manual

Martin Schulze <joey@namib.north.de> (1 bugs):
 zoo          3961  14 character file name limit in zoo

Nikhil Nair <nnair@debian.org> (1 bugs):
 gnuchess     4123  "gnuchess" requires changes for multi-arch support

Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@qed.econ.queensu.ca> (1 bugs):
 mirror       4238  mirror requires perl

Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.au> (1 bugs):
 unarj        3641  unarj description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pk

bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. White) (1 bugs):
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David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs.ch> (1 bugs):
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Mike Coleman <coleman@chez-gnu.cstp.umkc.edu> (1 bugs):
 nn           4181  Searching for wrong active file

mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) (1 bugs):
 elv-ctags    2503  elvis and emacs both provide ctags

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> (1 bugs):
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Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> (1 bugs):
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Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com> (1 bugs):
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Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net> (1 bugs):
 sp           4102  sp and LaTeX problems

adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew D. Fernandes) (2 bugs):
 acs          3559  acs description: no ext
 acs          3851  "acs" requires changes to support multiple arches

Leland Lucius <llucius@millcomm.com> (2 bugs):
 dialog       2591  rootdisk
 dialog       3514  Required package modconf depends on extra package dialog

Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de> (2 bugs):
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 sysklogd     4228  syslogd loops

Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu> (2 bugs):
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 xpostitplu   4101  xpostitplus loses previous postit notes

Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenster.de> (2 bugs):
 electric-f   3582  electric-fence description: no ext
 electric-f   4045  "electric-fence" requires changes for multi-arch support

Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se> (2 bugs):
 lists.debi   3199  Bizarre message from debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org
 lists.debi   3978  problem (re)subscribing to debian-devel

Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@ed.ac.uk> (2 bugs):
 ispell       2425  ispell thinks `formated' is correct
 ispell       3196  ispell symlinks broken

Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 www.debian   3431  some packages have no information on WWW-server
 www.debian   3700  Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE" ...>

Christian Linhart <chris@debian.org> (2 bugs):
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Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu.edu> (2 bugs):
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 hdparm       3866  "hdparm" requires changes to support multiple arches

Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cindy.et.tudelft.nl> (2 bugs):
 slrn         4069  slrn gives error
 slrn         4103  slrn epends on unavailable slang-lib09931

Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
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 dmalloc      4275  "dmalloc" requires changes for multi-arch support

Martin Schulze <joey@office.individual.net> (2 bugs):
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 msqld        4254  msql config problems

Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.leidenuniv.nl> (2 bugs):
 grep         4182  grep on /proc/kcore dumps core
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dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor) (2 bugs):
 cdtool       2450  `cdir' prints out huge chunks of /etc/passwd !
 unclutter    4042  "unclutter" requires changes for multi-arch support

Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com> (3 bugs):
 sam          4030  "sam" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ucbmpeg      3454  ucbmpeg control file problems
 ucbmpeg      3509  mpeg_play puts bogus statistics on stdout

Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.com> (3 bugs):
 tin          3787  tin uses /etc/news/descriptions instead of /etc/news/newsgr
 tin          3942  tin cannot find Newsgroup Descriptions
 tin          4227  Tin  TIN_NOVROOTDIR wrong value for tin

jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan K. Rabone) (3 bugs):
 trn           825  trn warning messages corrupt thread selector display
 trn          1845  dead.letter and dead.article are world readable
 trn          2298  trn bug with shell escaping

Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se> (3 bugs):
 bison        3955  yacc script uses $* instead of "$@"
 bison        4052  access permissions for /usr/bin/{mkparser, mkparserclass}
 bison        4232  bison dumps core

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@debian.org> (3 bugs):
 lrzsz        4075  Possible security problem with lrzsz
 mingetty     3362  Problems encountered while compiling "mingetty" for m68k ar
 ncftp        4272  ncftp dumps core when xterm window is too wide

mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Nonweiler) (3 bugs):
 ipx          2913  ipx bootup scripts are broken
 ipx          3592  ipx description: no ext
 ncpfs        3630  ncpfs description: summary starts w/ pkg name

Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.edu> (3 bugs):
 gimp-smoti   4303  config of gimp-smotif
 libwww-per   3611  libwww-perl description: no ext
 perl-tk      4068  pgs in perl-tk does not work

Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect.Net> (3 bugs):
 rc           3206  rc terminates on CTRL-C
 rc           3533  Problems encountered while building "rc" on m68k arch
 rc           3607  rc description: no ext

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (3 bugs):
 bugs.debia   2296  debian-bugs WWW doesn't say how to find out Debian version
 bugs.debia   2966  bugs2ftp is broken
 bugs.debia   2998  bugs2ftp still flaky

Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> (3 bugs):
 squid        3834  squid core dumps regularly
 tkdesk       3640  tkdesk description: ext start indented
 tkdesk, tk   3842  tkdesksh grows really large

Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk> (3 bugs):
 groff        2233  groff-1.09-4
 groff        2970  soelim [in groff] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 groff        4013  groff version is old

awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.P. Guy) (4 bugs):
 dpkg-ftp     2870  dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug
 dpkg-ftp     2933  dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002
 dpkg-ftp     4235  cpp, gcc, dpkg 
 dpkg-ftp     4241  Connect with nothing to do

Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 lilo         3247  Lilo unpack removes boot.b
 lilo         3761  LILO installation problem
 lilo         3772  lilo should not depend on MBR
 net-acct     4309  no manpage in net-acct

Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net> (4 bugs):
 abuse        3963  abuse
 abuse        4096  abuse is still a.out
 apsfilter    3224  apsfilter doesn't configure on a read-only filesystem
 apsfilter    3812  Apsfilter should depend on file

Christophe Le Bars <clebars@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 xcoral       3654  xcoral description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xcoral       4115  "xcoral" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcoral       4159  xcoral dies
 xtel         4037  "xtel" requires changes for multi-arch support

Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 libpaper     4125  libpaper should ask for papersize
 libpaper     4138  libpaper /usr/bin/paper is likely to have name clashes
 libpaper     4139  libpaper /etc/papersize is auto-handled conffile
 libpaper     4251  libpaper calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script

Richard Kettlewell <richard@elmail.co.uk> (4 bugs):
 itimer       4274  "itimer" requires changes for multi-arch support
 majordomo    1881  Majordomo UID wrong?
 repair       1532  no revision number with repair
 vm           4031  "vm" requires changes for multi-arch support

Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 termcap-co    836  Possible bugs in termcap system
 termcap-co   1045  tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd)
 termcap-co   1803  /etc/termcap linux definition incomplete
 termcap-co   3721  Problems while compiling "termcap-compat" on m68k arch

sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kleinmann") (4 bugs):
 elv-vi       4034  "elvis" requires changes for multi-arch support
 elviscmn     3562  elviscmn description: no ext
 elvisctags   4016  ref not in elvisctags
 elvisnox     2592  Elvis Compilation Peoblem

Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz.ch> (4 bugs):
 rsynth       2206  Description
 rsynth       3684  rsynth description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 rsynth       3932  "rsynth" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rsynth       4141  "say" is an a.out binary

Giuseppe Vacanti <Giuseppe.Vacanti@DeSelby.xs4all.nl> (4 bugs):
 diald        3457  diald control file problems
 diald        3573  diald description: ext start blank line
 diald        4128  ppp/diald interaction
 diald        4290  Cannot install diald

Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org> (4 bugs):
 manpages     2861  glob(3) references glob(7); the latter doesn't exist
 manpages     3165  fcntl(2) references nonexistent man pages
 manpages     4231  acct(2) man page refers to nonexistent acct(5) man page
 manpages-d   4193  German Manpages

Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> (5 bugs):
 gmp          4312  gmp should be dynamic lib
 pine         2365  Pine erases message before I can read it
 pine         2367  Pine supplies PATH line when posting news
 pine         3253  Pine over-encodes files (came from Bug#932)
 pine         4158  pine does not lock mailbox properly - loss of mail is likel

Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 setserial    2892  setserial marked as Essential when it isn't
 setserial    3638  setserial description: no ext
 setserial    3747  "setserial" doesn't support multiple architectures.
 setserial    3762  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usually hangs machine
 setserial    3800  setserial should not be essential

Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac.uk> (5 bugs):
 Umsdos       4067  Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.
 nas          1747  nas: no manpages for au available
 nas          3107  nas postinst could use a warning
 nas          3510  removal of nas doesn't kill 'au' daemon
 umsdos       3885  "umsdos' requires changes to support multiple arches

Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.net> (5 bugs):
 procmail     3197  wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/procmail
 procmail     3349  Problems encountered while compiling "procmail" for m68k ar
 procmail     3644  procmail description: no ext
 procmail     3705  procmail does close(-1)
 procmail     4092  procmail docs not owned by root

Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.at> (5 bugs):
 cnews        3476  cnews description is gibberish
 cnews        3852  "cnews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cnews, ine   3477  cnews and inews should be same package
 inews        3862  "inews" requires changes to support multiple arches
 nntp         3869  "nntp" requires changes to support multiple arches

gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R. Thomas) (5 bugs):
 dld          1488  dld control file dsccription problem
 dld          2209  Description
 dld          2758  dld: missing source file
 dld          3572  dld description: ext start indented, summary starts w/ pkg 
 dld          3853  "dld" requires changes to support multiple arches

Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Uni-Mainz.DE> (6 bugs):
 amd          3208  amd bug
 kbd          1901  `compose' keytable command not documented
 kbd          3988  Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard maps.
 kbd          4258  kbd program can't use multiple sized fonts
 ptx          4157  `permutated' is not a word
 vlock        4170  vlock can make the system unusable

Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu> (6 bugs):
 bdflush      3554  bdflush description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 login        3227  login refuses, and then allows, root login on tty?
 login        3439  Login reconfigures serial port
 login        3775  upgrading login temporarily breaks it
 passwd       3408  Various bugs in passwd manpages
 passwd       3798  passwd should not be essential

dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 workbone     1381  workbone postinst fails
 workbone     1973  workbone postinst needs rewording
 workbone     1984  dpkg won't install cdtool
 workbone     3382  workbone disappears during upgrade
 workbone     3664  workbone description: no ext
 workbone     3888  "workbone" requires changes to support multiple arches

Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wisc.edu> (6 bugs):
 elm          2557  add to elm manpage
 elm          2562  elm manpage paths incorrect
 elm          2789  elm doesn't show rest of pgp-signed message
 elm          2991  nfrm is not installed...
 elm          3042  Elm produces bogus Content-Type header for PGP signed stuff
 elm          3707  Problems encountered while compiling "elm" on m68k arch

Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com> (6 bugs):
 automake     3551  automake description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 dejagnu      3566  dejagnu description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 findutils    1239  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb doesn't exclude cdrom and ot
 findutils    3586  findutils description: no ext
 gwm          3594  gwm description: no ext
 oleo         3631  oleo description: no ext

debian-devel@pixar.com (6 bugs):
 general      2022  utmp corruption
 general      2481  /sbin/ldconfig in scripts
 general      2717  conffiles in /usr
 general      3066  a.out binaries in various packages
 general      3161  Newbie 1.1beta installation.
 general      4205  bind does not reinstall if /usr/sbin/bind was removed

Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu> (6 bugs):
 lxtools      3096  lxtools: user error (misuse of -r and filename) gives cored
 lxtools      3621  lxtools description: no ext
 taper        2891  taper documentation is missing
 taper        3115  taper recommends ftape
 taper        3535  Problems encountered while building "taper" on m68k arch
 taper        3643  taper description: no ext

dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor) (6 bugs):
 biff         3915  "biff" requires changes for multi-arch support
 byacc        3361  Problems encountered while compiling "byacc" for m68k arch
 byacc        3567  byacc description: no ext
 xwpe         2486  Ghost packages
 xwpe         3675  xwpe description: no ext
 xwpe         4117  "xwpe" requires changes for multi-arch support

Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho-emden.de> (7 bugs):
 netstd       3980  netstd many compiler warnings
 netstd       4091  Ftp does not wait for user answers on mget
 netstd       4132  Could popclient be changed to just read the passwd from std
 netstd       4236  ftp(1) barfs on QUOTE command
 netstd       4264  DIP/PPP support incorrect.
 netstd       4307  telnet and 256+ character pastes
 tcpdump      3742  tcpdump doesn't notice icmp packets on PPP interface

Guy Maor <maor@debian.org> (7 bugs):
 debianutil   3122  run-parts should ignore RCS
 debianutil   3511  typo on installkernel man page
 ftp.debian   1672  non-free packages
 ftp.debian   3529  libgr and zlib1 collide, but don't conflict!
 ftp.debian   4255  update buzz-updates/Removed, dpkg-ftp
 ftp.debian   4259  files in wrong directories?
 util-linux   4265  util-linux_2.5-5.deb:  /sbin/clock Seg. faults

Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@marin.fdn.fr> (7 bugs):
 apache       2802  apache tweaks
 apache       2812  Apache server: SECURITY HOLE
 apache       2934  Some cgi scripts don't work
 apache       3384  apache leaves /var/log/httpd non-empty
 apache       3470  apache problems
 apache       3940  Apache's default index.html says "CERN"
 apache       3969  Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole

Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com> (7 bugs):
 dlltools     3578  dlltools description: no ext
 xpaint       3475  xpaint Recommends pbmplus
 xpaint       3699  xpaint description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 xpaint       4116  "xpaint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xterm-colo   2353  postrm script broken
 xterm-colo   2710  colour xterm has problems when resizing
 xterm-colo   4105  making slrn work in a color xterm

Erick Branderhorst <branderhorst@heel.fgg.eur.nl> (7 bugs):
 giftrans     3284  giftrans is free
 giftrans     3930  "giftrans" requires changes for multi-arch support
 info          889  Info 3.1-6
 ntgclass     3922  "ntgclass" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ntgclass     4280  "ntgclass" requires changes for multi-arch support
 untex        4038  "untex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wenglish     3655  wenglish description: no ext

joost witteveen <joostje@master.debian.org> (8 bugs):
 gs           4109  "gs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 gs           4240  mfdcfnt setup error
 gs           4266  gs prints debugging info when invoked from xdvi
 gs           4268  Figure displayed incorrectly
 gs           4306  gs and rounded corner rectangle
 gsfonts      1112  a2gs output unusable by gs but usable by ghostview
 gsfonts      3596  gsfonts description: no ext
 gsfonts      3673  gsfonts description: no ext

Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org> (8 bugs):
 adduser      1711  adduser replaces NIS entries in /etc/passwd
 adduser      2309  Multiple root accounts
 adduser      3490  adduser password-setting problem
 adduser      3794  adduser should not be essential
 adduser      3861  when adduser runs finger it display all users mathcing the 
 adduser      3878  adduser --home aborts if dir exists; man page implies other
 adduser      3879  adduser: man page has '=V' strings
 adduser? m   1708  `passwd' not interruptible when invoked by `adduser'

Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca> (9 bugs):
 lclint       3944  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 lclint       4165  LCLint extended description has one blank line 
 lclint       4171  "lclint" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mailx        2009  mailx ignores ^C at Subject prompt
 mailx        2010  mailx misses VM-generated From_ lines
 mailx        2284  mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends mail !
 mailx        2356  mailx -- problems with TMPDIR symlink
 mailx        2733  /usr/bin/mail leaves lock files when disk full
 mailx        2971  mailx doesn't quit on two successive C-c

Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.uk> (10 bugs):
 xcompat      3246  Cant load library libXt.so.6
 xcompat      4130  Old motif applications don't run
 xcompat      4250  xcompat calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 xcontrib     1981  xman fails to format ascii(7) correctly
 xcontrib     3857  listres dumps core
 xcontrib     3954  xload dont needs tu run suid
 xcontrib     4036  "xcontrib" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xcontrib     4087  xgc dumps core
 xsnow        4281  "xsnow" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xtrlock      4041  "xtrlock" requires changes for multi-arch support

Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian.org> (10 bugs):
 bc           3727  Problems encountered while compiling "bc" for m68k arch.
 bsdmainuti   3782  GNU nm breaks lorder
 bsdutils      988  `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity
 bsdutils     3815  "ndc stats" fails 
 ed           3726  Problems encountered while compiling "ed" for m68k arch.
 fvwm         3437  fvwm should not recommend fvwm2
 fvwm         3748  Pixmaps missing from fvwm package?
 fvwm         4082  No documentation for fvwm modules
 fvwm2        3407  fvwm2: WindowList infelicity
 xcal         3292  xcal app-defaults shouldn't be conffiles

Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.eas.asu.edu> (10 bugs):
 auto-pgp     2211  Description
 auto-pgp     3216  auto-pgp doesn't remove info entry when removed
 auto-pgp     3680  auto-pgp description: ext start indented
 auto-pgp     3917  "auto-pgp" requires changes for multi-arch support
 auto-pgp     4278  "auto-pgp" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dosemu       1791  dosemu troubles
 dosemu       3671  dosemu description: no ext
 dosemu       4048  access permissions for /usr/bin/dos
 dosemu       4053  a) still a.out b) script: i have no 2nd floppy
 dosemu       4140  dosemu package is lacking its dos utilities

Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org> (11 bugs):
 mgetty       3372  mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax script
 mgetty       3896  /sbin/mgetty is not world-readable
 mgetty       3897  mgetty syslogs with priority `emerg'
 mgetty       3898  mgetty has bogus errno in usage message
 mgetty       3899  mgetty doesn't remove logfiles when purged
 mgetty       3900  mgetty doesn't work
 mgetty       4185  "mgetty" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mgetty, ne   3895  file conflicts: mgetty vs netpbm
 netdiag      4184  "netdiag" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xfishtank    4186  "xfishtank" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xfishtank    4315  xfishtank problems

Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.north.de> (11 bugs):
 at           2475  `at' uses middle-endian 2-digit-year date format
 cfingerd     3250  cfingerd descriptive text
 cfingerd     3433  weird output if cfingerd.conf: NO_PLAN = ""
 cfingerd     3791  Problems with "cfingerd" when compiling on m68k arch
 cfingerd     4146  cfingerd incorrectly says [MSG-N]
 dbview       3565  dbview description: ext extra spaces
 gpm          2874  gpm will not work if the system is setup for a serial conso
 gpm          3280  (no subject)
 gpm          3373  gpm -k hangs if X server running on console
 rman         3304  [rman] Off-by-one in generated HTML
 xfractint    3186  Can't chdir

Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com> (11 bugs):
 gawk         3328  Problems encountered while compiling "gawk" for m68k arch
 mawk         3542  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3544  Problems encountered while compiling "mawk" on m68k arch
 mawk         3617  mawk description: ext extra spaces
 mawk         4293  mawk doesn't report an error on full filesystems
 most         2205  Description
 most         3158  most differs from man page
 most         3620  most description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 npasswd-bo   3804  npasswd-boulder doesn't change NIS passwds
 npasswd_bo   3495  doesn't respect nis/yp
 slang-deve   3645  slang-devel description: ext extra spaces

Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.north.de> (12 bugs):
 smail        1481  smail paniclog suggestion
 smail        1693  forwarded message from Harald T. Alvestrand
 smail        1799  smail nameresloving problems
 smail        1929  aliasinclude and forwardinclude directors missing
 smail        2348  Smail fails to define NO_PETER_HONEYMAN
 smail        2423  scattered sendmail links
 smail        3046  Smail configuration problem?
 smail        3164  runq dumps core
 smail        3366  Problems encountered while compiling "smail" for m68k arch
 smail        3497  smail calls obsolete yp_order
 smail        4097  smail cron jobs don't test if smail is installed
 smail        4151  /etc/cron.daily/smail not removed with smail

jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson, Jim) (12 bugs):
 idanish      3670  idanish description: no ext
 idanish      3913  "idanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wfrench      3687  wfrench description: no ext
 wfrench      3927  "wfrench" requires changes for multi-arch support
 witalian     3691  witalian description: no ext
 witalian     3923  "witalian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wnorwegian   3688  wnorwegian description: no ext
 wnorwegian   3912  "wnorwegian" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wspanish     3698  wspanish description: no ext
 wspanish     3926  "wspanish" requires changes for multi-arch support
 wswedish     3682  wswedish description: no ext
 wswedish     3928  "wswedish" requires changes for multi-arch support

Steve Greenland <stevegr@master.debian.org> (13 bugs):
 cern-httpd   3124  CERN httpd sends useless cron mail
 cern-httpd   3327  cern-httpd postinst hangs if daemon configured for inetd
 cern-httpd   3370  httpdconfig installs Welcome.html even if index.html exists
 cern-httpd   3467  cern-httpd curious message
 cern-httpd   3486  forwarded message from Cron Daemon
 cern-httpd   3735  cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn on redirect
 cern-httpd   3850  "cern-httpd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 cron         1681  Missing files
 cron         3047  cron script problem?
 cron         3876  checksecurity shouldn't search ncpfs/smbfs filesystems
 cron         4204  cron does not install if /usr/sbin/cron does not exist!?
 nvi          2825  restricted movement in nvi
 nvi          3967  hex codes instead of 8-bit characters

daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (David P. Boswell) (13 bugs):
 shellutils    821  /bin/echo doesn't check write errors
 shellutils   1164  who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp
 shellutils   1560  `su' produces incomplete log entries when not in ordinary s
 shellutils   1616  'who' can't find utmp
 shellutils   2068  su doesn't su.
 shellutils   2292  date does not support dates past 2000 !
 shellutils   2345  Inclusion of shadow breaks up some packages in the current 
 shellutils   2959  date + bug
 shellutils   3087  Bug in date.
 shellutils   3359  Problems encountered while compiling "sh-utils" for m68k ar
 shellutils   3609  shellutils description: no ext
 shellutils   4154  `echo' provides no way to unparse arguments
 shellutils   4256  tee does not write to file if output to pipe fails

Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org> (13 bugs):
 man          2969  zsoelim [in man] is confused by .so in macros definitions
 man          3098  man-2.3.10-11 segfaults
 man          3109  man 9menu unpleasant
 man          3220  apropos dumps core
 man          3725  Another data point on apropos segfaulting.
 man          3739  `man -l -' for stdin doesn't work
 man          3766  "man" acting too smart.
 man          3788  `apropos' matches only word-substrings even in page names
 man          3939  /etc/manpath.config is not a conffile.
 man          4192  "input in flex scanner failed"
 man          4207  man sends "No manual entry" error to stdout
 ppp          3808  ppp postinst gives error
 ppp          4121  ppp setup bug (postinst?)

joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org> (13 bugs):
 gnuplot      3587  gnuplot description: no ext
 pixmap       3962  Pixmap "calloc" problem
 pixmap       4100  pixmap dumps core (bad depth?)
 pixmap       4169  pixmap dies
 xosview      3385  xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (again)
 xosview      3737  xosview uses -O3 -f...
 xosview      3873  Xosview hangs when a dummy net device is in the kernel.
 xosview      4033  "xosview" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xosview      4081  xosview doesn't install a binary
 xosview      4118  xosview doesn't use XUSERFILESEARCHPATH
 xosview      4267  xosview doesn't understand -geometry very well
 xosview      4269  xosview has only XOSView as application resource file
 xosview      4270  xosview should be able to monitor /dev/ttyS? too

Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lot49.med.miami.edu> (16 bugs):
 mh           2334  MH scan -width dumps core
 mh           2346  MH can lose mail
 mh           2648  
 mh           2661  dist and mh both have a dist manpage
 mh           4213  "mh" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ncurses-ba   2863  dselect and ncurses in select window
 ncurses-ba   3163  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 ncurses-ba   3843  dselect resets automargins in xterm and vt220, not console
 ncurses-bi   2076  reset(1)
 ncurses-bi   2474  /usr/bin/reset does the wrong thing
 ncurses-bi   3191  reset(1) doesn't bring an xterm out of alt charset mode
 ncurses-bi   3192  tset(1) man page problem
 ncurses-bi   3829  tic.1 refers to unavailable infotocap command.
 ncurses-bi   3830  captoinfo confused by /etc/termcap entries
 ncurses-bi   3973  Home/End keys don't work right in nvi
 ncurses-te   2158  new ncurses bug ?

Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.org> (17 bugs):
 acm          1366  acm networking problems
 acm          3548  acm description: no ext
 acm          3849  "acm" requires changes to support multiple arches
 aout-librl   3553  aout-librl description: no ext
 pmake        3629  pmake description: no ext
 pmake        3793  bsd.lib.mk incompatible with GNU ar
 rootdisk     2945  Bus Error given by rootdisk
 rootdisk     3142  1.1 installation and large partitions
 rootdisk     3147  May 19 boot floppies...
 rootdisk     3272  bug in root disks...
 rootdisk     3420  Boot disk creats corrupted filesystems in some situations
 rootdisk     3451  Missing label 'llseek' in e2fsck - rootdisk
 rootdisk     3488  basedisks modconf problems
 rootdisk     3489  basedisks configuration problems
 rootdisk     3491  basedisks newly booted system problems
 rootdisk     3892  mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbol 'llseek'
 rootdisk     3968  installation checks for CD-ROM too often

Erick Branderhorst <branderh@debian.org> (17 bugs):
 glibcdoc     2906  Inconsistency in libc.info re snprintf
 hyperlatex   4071  ps2gif has incorrect pathname
 idutch       3672  idutch description: no ext
 idutch       3931  "idutch" requires changes for multi-arch support
 latex        3415  Xdvi and postscript fonts
 latex        3832  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        3835  Problem with Latex installation
 latex        4174  Unable to use 'dc' fonts in latex2e
 latex        4191  Latex_2e-7 has redundant files
 latex,xdvi   2054  no subject (file transmission)
 mathpad      2231  mathpad problems
 mathpad      3312  installation and startup problems with mathpad
 mflib        2185  texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?
 mflib        3323  MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk
 texlib       2186  national hyphenation patterns
 wdutch       3697  wdutch description: no ext
 wdutch       3914  "wdutch" requires changes for multi-arch support

Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresden.de> (18 bugs):
 genscript    3169  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papersize
 linuxdoc-s   3180  linuxdoc-sgml semantics and formatting problems
 linuxdoc-s   3317  linuxdoc-sgml info files are missing all ftp names...
 lpr           902  lpr can't print a PostScript file ?!
 lpr          1061  /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man5/printcap.5
 lpr          2556  "\031\1"
 lpr          3038  SOLVED: can't remove print jobs
 lpr          3156  lpr and smail uuname returned -1
 lpr          4237  lpd remote printing problem
 lpr, magic   3075  lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts failed
 mosaic       4166  Mosaic extended description has one blank line
 mosaic       4223  Mosaic looks bad on mono display
 mosaic       4224  Mosaic produces poor rendering of nested markup
 mosaic       4226  Mosaic fails to substitute 0X in mailto: URLs
 mosaic, xs   4160  Mosaic caused X to become unresponsive to mouse and keyboar
 rcs          2302  RCS - problems with msdos filesystems
 seyon        2701  seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't work
 xview        4283  "xview" requires changes for multi-arch support

David Engel <david@ods.com> (19 bugs):
 aout-binut   3552  aout-binutils description: no ext
 binutils     1108  No manpage ar(5)
 binutils     1303  `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete
 binutils     2161  elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld can be made to segfault
 binutils     3574  binutils description: no ext
 binutils     4246  binutils calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 expect       4285  "expect" requires changes for multi-arch support
 gcc          2493  GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied external ref to static functio
 gcc          2909  GCC Info has funny formatting
 gcc          2910  GCC accepts multi-line strings without \ or " " &c
 gcc          3838  GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it
 gcc          4011  simple c++ program segfaults
 gdb           660  GDB gets address of structure member wrong in memory breakp
 gdb          3515  gdb prints corrupted message
 gdb          3599  gdb description: no ext
 gdb          3823  Gdb's `handle' command behaviour differs from doc.
 ldso         4188  ldd never gives non-zero exit status
 tkined       4044  "tkined" requires changes for multi-arch support
 tkman        2884  tkman doesn't use /var/catman

Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.edu> (20 bugs):
 auctex       4021  "auctex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mh-papers    3613  mh-papers description: no ext
 netpbm       3712  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands
 netpbm       3717  netpbm doesn't provide index of commands 
 netpbm       3743  Problems encountered while compiling "netpbm" on m68k arch
 netpbm       3792  Problems with "netpbm" when compiling on m68k arch
 netpbm       3975  netpbm is mostly free
 netpbm       4014  netpbm is missing manual pages
 netpbm       4183  Typo in netpbm setup
 netpbm       4300  netpbm "Incoming" package
 pari         4279  "pari" requires changes for multi-arch support
 term         3714  Problems encountered while compiling 'term' on m68k arch
 xless        3773  xless default window too thin and won't go away when asked 
 xless        4027  "xless" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xpaste       4046  "xpaste" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xv           3837  Why isn't xv linked with the libgr libraries ?
 xv           4284  "xv" requires changes for multi-arch support
 zircon       4162  stack trace
 zircon       4187  "zircon" requires changes for multi-arch support
 zircon       4215  "zircon" requires changes for multi-arch support

Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.superlink.net> (20 bugs):
 mc           2823  mc segfaults on reconnect of ftpfs
 mc           3128  mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1
 mc           3245  mc should depend on gpm
 mc           3521  mc core dumps
 mc           3547  Problems encountered while compiling "mc" on m68k arch
 mc (Midnig   2242  mc should depend on ncurses3.0
 timezone     2167  timezone zdump for US zones gives GMT instead of local time
 timezone     2169  timezone zdump utility should be able to dump files
 timezone     2170  timezone: it needs more documentation
 timezone     2171  timezone: how to determine zone setting?
 timezone     2275  ctime(3) should be replaced by newctime(3)
 timezone     2671  timezone Mexico/General doesn't switch to DST
 timezone     2682  Zoneinfo library has a name-clash with compression library
 timezone     2785  Timezone has static library?
 timezone     3084  missing timezones
 timezone     3363  Problems encountered while compiling "timezone" for m68k ar
 timezone     3647  timezone description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 timezone     3799  timezone should not be essential
 timezone     4061  Debian
 timezone?,   2942  Wrong timezone for Europe/Warsaw?

dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silber) (21 bugs):
 dbackup      1406  backup postrm can fail when it shouldn't
 fortune      1118  fortune is setuid games ?!
 fortune      3213  fortune need libc.so.4
 fortune      3571  fortune description: summary starts w/ pkg name, no ext
 fortune      3818  fortune is still a.out !
 fortune      3855  "fortune" requires changes to support multiple arches
 fortune      4142  strfile, unstr are a.out binaries
 fortune      4143  fortune is an a.out binary
 uucp         1265  Misc. uucp bugs
 uucp         2198  uuxqt can't execute rmail
 uucp         2293  uucp should compress big files in /usr/doc/uucp
 uucp         2810  uucp postrm should use -f flag to rm
 uucp         3112  UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and does not create it)
 uucp         3503  still a.out (and src doesn't build binary *.deb out of the 
 uucp         3711  Problems encountered while compiling "uucp" on m68k arch
 uucp         3816  uucp is still a.out
 uucp         3890  "uucp" requires changes to support multiple arches
 uucp         3936  uutraf dumps core in gmtime()
 uucp         3937  uutraf has repeated words in messages and is not explicit
 uucp         4127  uucp uses /usr/spool
 uucp         4302  uucp

Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cistron.nl> (21 bugs):
 inn          2112  Submission for INN doc file
 inn          2220  INN feed password interacts badly with trn XMODE READER
 inn          2822  Some minor glitches with the inn package
 inn          3153  inn ctlinnd not readable/executable, but /var/run/innd is !
 inn          3459  inn should Depend on inewsinn, not contain it
 inn          3462  INN postinst and configuration problems
 inn          3517  innd won't remove syslog.conf lines when purged
 inn          3950  INN message size limitation to 350K does not work
 inn          4218  Problems removing INN
 minicom      3601  minicom description: no ext
 nis          3632  nis description: summary starts w/ pkg name
 nis          3833  Manual pages for some yp* programs in nis
 sysvinit     2439  rc?.d scripts sometimes not run
 sysvinit     2796  sysvinit makes obsolete symbolic link
 sysvinit     2908  mesg sets wrong permissions on /dev/ttyp*
 sysvinit     3130  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3140  /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bugs
 sysvinit     3143  sysvinit init.d/network script buglet
 sysvinit     3720  shutdown prints "You don't exist. Go away!"
 sysvinit     4229  /etc/init.d/skeleton is missing `set -e'
 sysvinit     4230  /etc/init.d/network is an auto-handled conffile

Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org> (25 bugs):
 bind         2530  bind locks up system
 bind         2819  named loses (in an easily fixed way) on 1.2.13 kernels
 bind         3478  bind should use lowercase `none' in postinst
 bind         3505  ndc does not use start-stop-daemon
 bind         3507  named postinst mangled my configuration
 bind         3966  nslookup: fatal flex scanner internal error--end of buffer 
 bind         4222  dig in the wrong package?
 bind         4296  named should provide reverse on all of 127/8
 ddd-smotif   3307  ddd-smotif does not replace ddd
 deliver      3319  deliver does not set exit codes as expected by sendmail
 maelstrom    3287  (no subject)
 motifnls     4028  "motifnls" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mount        2304  umount calls gethostbyname() at consequence
 mount        3993  users can't umount user mounts
 mount        4147  [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linux-security] Vulnerability in 
 mount        4289  mount's swapon command doesn't have the "-s" option
 sendmail     3151  Sendmail runs too late
 sendmail     3752  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3753  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3754  sendmail shouldn't require 'deliver'
 sendmail     3756  sendmail has wrong path to procmail
 sendmail     4064  sendmail should recommend deliver, not depend
 sendmail     4065  FEATURE(local_procmail) needs manual override to /usr/bin
 sendmail     4085  /etc/init.d/sendmail does not stop and restart correctly
 sendmail     4203  sendmail does not install if /usr/sbin/sendmail does not ex

Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connect.net> (26 bugs):
 kernel       1707  image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o
 kernel       1744  dpkg: cannot scan updates directory `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/
 kernel       1759  running out of swap causes deadlock
 kernel       1914  general protection in unix_proto_connect
 kernel       1922  1.3.43 Kernel is too nice
 kernel       1962  kernel needs sbpcd.h editing in some cases
 kernel       1989  mmap bug?
 kernel       2063  scsi driver sequence unreasonable
 kernel       2064  aha1740 driver only supports one card
 kernel       2105  console error messages "Source Route Failed."
 kernel       2463  "msdos" filesystem needed for bootstrapping
 kernel       2470  in kernel Attached ether adapter driver interferes with lp 
 kernel       2692  kernel swap space problem
 kernel       2940  image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape device
 kernel       3019  no 386 support in kernel_image 1.3.100
 kernel       3040  Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel not compatible with my SB16 c
 kernel       3106  v 1.1 beta kernel image not for i386
 kernel       3195  "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fails due to missing "serial" mod
 kernel       3258  pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug
 kernel       3265  kernel-image and PS/2 mouse problem
 kernel       3268  network modules don't work with kernel 
 kernel       3275  dpkg --no-act leaves control info in /tmp
 kernel       3393  printer-driver problem in kernel 1.99.7
 kernel       3397  (no subject)
 kernel       3516  SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can cause major corruption
 kernel       3999  nfs module fails to load

Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com> (28 bugs):
 arrl-infos   2737  arrl-infoserv: missing source file
 arrl-infos   3677  arrl-infoserv description: no ext
 ash          2604  ash: cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal sign
 ash          3056  ash-source contains objects
 ash          3718  Problems encountered while compiling "ash" on m68k arch.
 boot-flopp    998  Can't Configure DOS Partitions
 boot-flopp   1032  Linux Counter Project Info Not Included
 boot-flopp   1372  rootdisk: no dvorak keytable
 boot-flopp   2569  bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdomainname?
 boot-flopp   2738  Installing Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2739  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2740  Configuring Network with Debian 1.1
 boot-flopp   2850  nfs.o isn't loaded in clean debian 1.1 nfs install
 boot-flopp   3031  various boot-floppies nits
 boot-flopp   3064  need a pointer in /usr/doc/boot-floppies
 boot-flopp   3121  boot-floppies doesn't have basedisks.sh
 boot-flopp   3575  boot-floppies description: no ext
 mbr          3789  `mbr' package doesn't say how to install/use it
 modconf      3628  modconf description: no ext
 modconf      3740  A couple of problems popped up while using "modconf"
 pcb          3413  linked with aout libXaw
 pcb          3635  pcb description: no ext
 pcb          3872  "pcb" requires changes to support multiple arches
 pcb          4026  "pcb" requires changes for multi-arch support
 rspfd        3881  "rspfd" requires changes to support multiple arches
 syslinux     2774  syslinux: missing source file
 syslinux     3642  syslinux description: no ext
 syslinux     4004  procinfo breaks without modules

Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au> (29 bugs):
 lynx         2067  lynx -source can't find documents
 lynx         2295  (no subject)
 lynx         2946  Lynx gives fatal error message
 lynx         2964  lynx -dump fails through proxy
 lynx         2965  lynxexec not compiled into lynx.
 lynx         3105  lynx access to dot files is disabled
 lynx         3386  lynx version number changes
 lynx         3469  lynx default home page
 lynx         3606  lynx description: ext extra spaces
 lynx         3846  lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> in <dl>
 lynx         3875  Lynx thinks *.deb files are "text/plain".
 lynx         4005  Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *.deb problem.
 lynx         4225  lynx fails to substitute 0X in mailto: URLs
 mandelspaw   3176  mandelspawn slave problems
 rxvt         2510  rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts
 rxvt         2989  rxvt source bug
 rxvt         4032  "rxvt" requires changes for multi-arch support
 samba        4133  Samba goes into busy loop?
 tcsh          820  tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 tcsh         3396  tcsh doesn't provide c-shell
 tcsh, csh    3466  tcsh, csh should use update-alternatives, not diversions
 tf           2547  tf does not support visual mode
 tf           3886  "tf" requires changes to support multiple arches
 xntp         2051  /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handled conffile
 xntp         2982  xntp calls ntpdate at start
 xtron        1703  xtron documentation
 ytalk        2196  ytalk `shell' option can't run dpkg
 ytalk        2575  ytalk lies about who you are talking to
 ytalk        2699  ytalk doesn't use FQDNs

Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com> (32 bugs):
 bash          818  bash builtin `echo' doesn't check write errors
 bash         1009  bash problem with quoting/completioon
 bash         1549  bash should not have world-readable history
 bash         1624  thermal run away problem
 bash         1702  telnet+su root->thermal process
 bash         1714  bash is confused when breaking lines
 bash         1746  rsh <system> sh -i produces CPU hog
 bash         1834  [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: /etc/profile on Debian Linux
 bash         2110  Bash tab completion of non alphanumeric characters
 bash         2265  bash `horizontal scroll' can't be turned off
 bash         2301  bash doesn't document any way to safely create tmp file
 bash         2362  bash (readline) dumps core on completion
 bash         2818  bash doesn't provide enough docs
 bash         2856  fd leak in bash
 bash         3174  set -i doesn't work in bash
 bash         3177  sh -nc <command> actually runs command (!)
 bash         3353  Problems encountered while compiling "bash" for m68k arch
 bash         3538  bash on m68k doesn't use ncurses termcap emulation
 bash         3561  bash description: no ext
 bash         4180  bash has duplicate examples
 bash         4245  S-96-48: Vulnerability in "bash" (fwd)
 beav         3558  beav description: ext extra spaces
 git          3543  Problems encountered while compiling "git" for m68k arch
 git          3588  git description: ext extra spaces
 guile        3052  guile is missing slib.info.gz
 guile        3223  guile installs entry for slib, but no info file
 guile        3508  guile doesn't have right permissions on /usr/include/guile/
 guile        3856  "guile" requires changes to support multiple arches
 netatalk     2542  No default config files?
 netatalk     2690  netatalk: a few small problems
 python       3442  python postinst is very verbose
 xasteroids   4114  "xasteroids" requires changes for multi-arch support

Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us> (33 bugs):
 autoconf     3839  autoconf wants `nawk'
 cvs          3374  CVS wrappers can't be turned off
 cvs          3970  cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1
 cvs          4008  CVS texinfo docs won't format correctly with TeX
 cvs          4024  "cvs" requires changes for multi-arch support
 emacs        1879  Emacs shell mode weirdness - looks like C code bug
 emacs        2183  emacs shouldn't touch /usr/local
 emacs        2235  emacs eats manual pages
 emacs        2267  emacs ange ftp fails
 emacs        2318  Emacs makes it hard for MTAs to do the right thing
 emacs        2392  Emacs mishandles fonts under X.
 emacs        2417  emacs inferior process buffers failing
 emacs        2431  Emacs mishandles X fonts.
 emacs        2476  emacs mucks up my email address
 emacs        2477  annoying bug in emacs
 emacs        2478  ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd
 emacs        2479  ange-ftp is incredibly inefficient
 emacs        2532  Emacs fails to use `set -e' in postinst
 emacs        2630  emacs package needs to break ctags-related files out separa
 emacs        2634  emacs hung
 emacs        2709  emacs should list /usr/lib/emacs/19.30/lisp/default.el as a
 emacs        2714  Emacs and XEmacs share files
 emacs        2731  emacs with gud creates ~/.terminfo/e/emacs
 emacs        2829  emacs: gdb says: slashes aren't allowed (/etc/termcap)
 emacs        3119  emacs font handling
 emacs        3179  emacs ctags segfaults
 emacs        3241  derived.el fails in emacs
 emacs        3400  gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-19.31-2
 emacs        4000  emacs can't initialize x window
 emacs        4107  emacs leaves stale lockfiles and publishes pathnames
 emacs        4271  emacs has no "debian-rundir"
 emacs-el     3569  emacs-el description: no ext
 emacs-el     4304  Wrong .el files in emacs?

Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de> (36 bugs):
 ghostview    1451  `ghostviewR6' conflict with ghostview &c
 ghostview    2200  Description
 ghostview    3598  ghostview description: ext start indented
 ghostview    3759  xxgdb and ghostview have bad Maintainer field
 ghostview    4088  ghostview does not put filename in window title
 ghostview    4104  ghostview does not obey %BoundingBox: and other DSC commen
 ghostview    4220  ghostview and /etc/papersize
 ghostview    4261  Ghostview -- needs MIME entry
 procps       1016  top has 3's in vt100
 procps       1176  /usr/bin/top segfault with unknown terminal
 procps       1240  ps(1) man page incomplete
 procps       1246  ps man page does not agree with implementation
 procps       1336  CFLAGS shouldn't be used when linking
 procps       1533  `w' produces bogus login@, idle time &c for xdm login entry
 procps       1713  procps: manpage doesn't tell the truth
 procps       1853  top fails after 130 processes?
 procps       1908  Top and tabs
 procps       1933  w from procps gives wrong idle times
 procps       2159  "ps pids" lists more than just pids
 procps       2402  ps no longer understands `g' option
 procps       2427  top d 60 fails
 procps       2460  bizarre output from `free'
 procps       2520  procps needs dependency on ncurses3.0
 procps       2721  free fails to understand recent kernels' /proc/meminfo
 procps       2728  top coredump
 procps       2841  top produces `$<3>' at end of each line !
 procps       2938  libproc is in wrong place
 procps       3080  error message in syslog caused by ps
 procps       3102  top has problems when not on console
 procps       3260  psupdate man page out of date
 procps       3350  Problems encountered while compiling "procps" for m68k arch
 procps       3989  `w' produces corrupted output
 procps       4062  running ps as root does not report controlling ttys correct
 procps       4152  psupdate writes /etc/psdatabase, not /boot/psdatabase
 procps       4248  procps calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 xxgdb        3678  xxgdb description: no ext

Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk> (38 bugs):
 dpkg          957  dpkg should automatically log everything
 dpkg         1037  dselect user interface (was Re: debian 0.93pl5 installation
 dpkg         1399  dselect error handling not consistent
 dpkg         1480  start-stop-daemon doesn't check process status
 dpkg         1526  man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect
 dpkg         1555  dselect per-screen-half focus request
 dpkg         1642  dpkg recursive package listing doesn't do the right thing
 dpkg         1670  start-stop-daemon is too slow
 dpkg         1797  upgrade/downgrade dependency calculation problem
 dpkg         1818  configure ordering based on Recommends
 dpkg         1921  update-alternatives prompt, dpkg conffile show diff
 dpkg         2531  install-info should use better locking strategy
 dpkg         2536  dpkg inappropriately marks packages as installed
 dpkg         2576  base: selecting [A]ccess with dselect
 dpkg         2603  dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when installing xterm-color
 dpkg         2664  arrow keys fail in dselect not just after search ?
 dpkg         2828  have to install xosview twice to work
 dpkg         2834  desect loses state if it can't find a pre-dependancy
 dpkg         2894  dpkg guidelines info files not recognized
 dpkg         2904  install-info doesn't cope with nonexistent /usr/info/dir fi
 dpkg         2911  Conffiles are deleted too late ? (Re: Bug#2701: seyon: dpkg
 dpkg         2929  dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.
 dpkg         2939  Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction
 dpkg         2973  install-info created 5 Development sections in my /usr/info
 dpkg         3125  bug (and correction) in dpkg-1.1.6 scripts/install-info.pl
 dpkg         3170  again dpkg --root=xxx
 dpkg         3218  install-info adds Miscellaneous section badly
 dpkg         3225  dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems from 1.0.17
 dpkg         3233  dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2nd
 dpkg         3406  dselect unreadable under xterm
 dpkg         3410  some problems/bugs/suggestions with install-info
 dpkg         3704  Weird dselect behavior (bug?)
 dpkg         3765  dpkg and kernel-* package names
 dpkg         3991  dselect has confusing and bizarre interface
 dpkg         4074  problems with 1.1 release
 dpkg         4093  start-stop-daemon fails to kill process
 dpkg         4195  dpkg-source and new tar package don't mix
 pgp-i        3545  Problems encountered while compiling "pgp" on m68k arch

Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.org> (44 bugs):
 mkisofs      3480  missing information in manpage
 mkisofs      3539  mkisofs stops if an error occurs
 mkisofs      3540  mkisofs stops if a problem occurs
 mkisofs      3703  mkisofs stops if a permission problem occurs
 xbase         725  twm places windows incorrectly
 xbase         740  xclock leaves `droppings' in its window
 xbase         773  xmh falls over if mh is not installed
 xbase         775  twm reports errors on incorrect line numbers
 xbase        1621  Xmark has no manpage
 xbase        1690  XDM protection fault on X config error
 xbase        1691  X config allows invalid numeric range
 xbase        1819  X11 doesn't set a lock on the mouse port
 xbase        1985  xdm won't redirect to remote machines.
 xbase        2243  xterm vanishes when it's big (some escape sequence?)
 xbase        2297  xterm gets mouse-paste and RETURN in wrong order
 xbase        2313  xterm keymapping problems suspected
 xbase        2360  xdm cannot find a free VT
 xbase        3026  xbase et al postinst doesn't flush stdout
 xbase        3073  xbase contains imake and xmkmf without their config files
 xbase        3095  xbase kills xdm and *then* asks (politely, but belatedly)
 xbase        3162  disconnects between ncurses-base and xbase
 xbase        3267  Unqualified hostnames in rstart
 xbase        3395  can't login via xdm
 xbase        3730  improper lookup of window managers by /etc/X11/Xsession
 xbase        3751  xconsole stops logging when syslogd is hupped
 xbase        3906  Errors in the Compose file for ISO-LATIN1
 xbase        3990  xdm-errors location not what FSSTND says
 xbase        4012  xbase: `window-managers' was un-correctly generated
 xbase        4015  xterm & xterm.color sets broken TERMCAP
 xbase        4173  xdm stop-script should use --pidfile
 xbase        4233  startx does not initialize X cookies
 xbase        4301  missing bitmaps
 xbase et a   3734  X11 problems
 xbase?       3110  X servers muck up xdm when uninstalled
 xfntbig      3650  xfntbig description: no ext
 xfntcyr      3610  xfntcyr description: no ext
 xfntscl      3663  xfntscl description: no ext
 xlib         3661  xlib description: no ext
 xlib         4249  xlib calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 xmanpages    3308  X(1) manpage in wrong place?
 xmanpages    4124  typo in XtOpenApplication manpage
 xserver-sv   1292  X locks up
 xserver-sv   3300  xserver-svga configuration
 xslib        3662  xslib description: no ext

Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-net.de> (47 bugs):
 amsfonts     4208  "amsfonts" requires changes for multi-arch support
 amslatex     4216  "amslatex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 amstex       3550  amstex description: no ext
 amstex       4210  "amstex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 bibtex       2037  bibtex not searching $TEXINPUTS
 bibtex, kp   1429  several TeX packages Provide themselves
 dviljk       3198  dviljk is still aout! :-(
 dviljk       3202  dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! :-(
 dviljk       3458  dviljk missing prompt for input
 dviljk       4211  "dviljk" requires changes for multi-arch support
 dvipsk       1873  dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize!
 dvipsk       2104  dvips doesn't provide color
 dvipsk       2357  dvipsk generated PS causes `restore error'
 kpathsea     1858  kpathsea package does not install or maintain an ls-R datab
 kpathsea     1865  cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
 kpathsea     2027  tiny bug in web2c debian.rules
 kpathsea     3921  "kpathsea" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxgraph     4276  "ltxgraph" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxmisc      4277  "ltxmisc" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ltxtool      1771  Legal problems with ltxtool
 ltxtool lt   1502  Uniform lists in debian.control
 makeindex    4047  "makeindex" requires changes for multi-arch support
 mfbin        1686  psfonts.map can't be found
 mfbin        1934  font scaling problem
 mfbin        2972  MetaFONT linked against X libraries
 mfbin        3077  gray font .mf files missing from MFBIN
 oldgerman    4214  "oldgerman" requires changes for multi-arch support
 pandora      4212  "pandora" requires changes for multi-arch support
 psnfss       3135  psnfss has no Architecture field
 psnfss       4282  "psnfss" requires changes for multi-arch support
 texbin       1647  dpkg can present incorrect info for virtual packages.
 texbin       1653  Missing dvicopy(1) man page.
 texbin       1663  TeX comes without configuration script
 texbin       1664  TeX is lacking documentation on the setup
 texbin       1823  texbin postinst failed with error 1, no message
 texbin       2023  latex dumps core on -QUIT
 texbin       2038  tex man page has unexpanded macros in it
 texbin       2621  unstable/texbin install fails
 texpsfnt     2764  texpsfnt: missing source file
 textfm, te   3468  textfm and texlib file conflicts
 xbmbrowser   3050  xbmbrowser man page installed as xbmbrowser.man
 xbmbrowser   4035  "xbmbrowser" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xbmbrowser   4239  xbmbrowser recommends pbmplus
 xdvik        2122  xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat convention
 xdvik        2803  xdvi does not handle redraws of includedEPS files correctly
 xdvik        4209  "xdvik" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xearth       4043  "xearth" requires changes for multi-arch support

Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com> (50 bugs):
 compface     3845  invalid directories in compface package
 less         3336  Problems encountered while compiling "less" for m68k arch
 less         3616  less description: ext extra spaces
 less         3952  Less annoyances
 less         4178  silly problem with less
 patch        3348  Problems encountered while compiling "patch" for m68k arch
 perl         1099  perl bug
 perl         1170  perl fails to make headers first time...
 perl         1201  perl doesn't know about includes
 perl         1247  perl <...> globbing only works if (t)csh installed
 perl         1411  perlconfig misses an opportunity to use xargs
 perl         1856  creating perl header files
 perl         1916  perl: wrong entries in Config.pm
 perl         1972  perl should suggest kernel sources
 perl         2182  perl shouldn't touch /usr/local
 perl         2184  perl's sys/socket.ph causes warning
 perl         2241  Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and LC_* poorly
 perl         2251  Perl coredumps while invoking adduser
 perl         2254  perl doesn't initialize variable to 0 or something
 perl         2405  perl postinst messages re unctrl.h
 perl         2440  sys/socket.ph produces spurious message
 perl         2495  perl requires tcsh (as it is currently configured)
 perl         2501  (no subject)
 perl         2502  configure fails if /vmlinuz is missing
 perl         2589  perl can't load libdb.so.1
 perl         2590  new revision of perl does not include suidperl
 perl         2593  perl tries to install in /usr/local
 perl         2658  Errors during perlconfig
 perl         2691  new perl break suid scripts
 perl         3093  Perl dumps core
 perl         3212  Perl recommends nonexistent packages
 perl         3230  why the hell does perl depend on tcsh???
 perl         3242  perl's dependencies are wrong
 perl         3277  nit: perl setup emits a \n
 perl         3283  /usr/bin/perlconfig should be in /usr/sbin
 perl         3295  perls debian.rules doesn't work
 perl         3296  /bin/perl is not updated
 perl         3423  Problems installing kernel sources and sudo
 perl         3434  pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cut/=pod/=item not handled corr
 perl         3770  dodgy `\n' in perl postinst
 perl         3784  perl does not install on base 1.1
 perl         3785  perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") and "mirror"
 perl         3803  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3814  perl and the empty directories
 perl         3847  Perl & G++
 perl         3874  Archive of perl 5.003-2 is broken
 perl         3908  perl h2ph problem
 perl         4206  Perl `pod' documentation should be in /usr/doc or not insta
 xemacs       2689  (no subject)
 xemacs       2839  Xemacs problems

Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> (61 bugs):
 base         1699  Install/Config quirks: Missing secondary DNS server, NIS se
 base         1742  /dev/tty has wrong permissions
 base         1855  packages adding entries to /etc/group
 base         1885  base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create higher ttys
 base         1954  setting up the network
 base         1955  base discs still aren't creating /var/log/news
 base         2001  Incorrect ownership of audio device files
 base         2070  /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net
 base         2524  problems with base package
 base         2538  audio devices have different group id than audio group
 base         2688  base: wrong group for rft* devices
 base         2741  First booting with Debian 1.1
 base         2840  Conflicting entries in login/group
 base         2889  no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 boot-disk
 base         2895  base -- incorrect passwd entry for 'gnats'
 base         2920  incorrect entry for nobody in recent "base" package
 base         2927  /usr/info/dir in base confuses install-info
 base         2928  nobody has wrong login shell
 base         2978  May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[345]: wtmp /var/log/wtmp No su
 base         3002  majordomo has conflicting group id
 base         3027  updatedb can't run properly
 base         3036  automatic adduser/addgroup in postinst (was Re: fingerd)
 base         3039  MAKEDEV script does not create the random/urandom devices
 base         3070  base copyright string
 base         3149  upgrading base truncates utmp
 base         3183  permissions problems with /var/lib/games
 base         3231  /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not present
 base         3252  base template /usr/info/dir malformed
 base         3314  On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.boot/0serial way too optimisti
 base         3315  Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on 11-6 disks
 base         3387  base leaves /tmp/base.postinst lying around
 base         3409  Could not make boot floppy
 base         3421  /tmp installs wrongly
 base         3493  Teles ISDN card installation buglets
 base         3557  base description: no ext
 base         3786  base includes anonymous ftp account
 base         3805  /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as 'idsn'
 base         3809  /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still around
 base         3902  base disks' network configuration oddities
 base         3905  base disks still install part packages
 base         3983  Wrong entry in /etc/group
 base         3986  inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!
 base         3994  ae won't deinstall
 base         4002  base wipes out utmp & wtmp
 base         4009  /bin/edit causes error after ae removed
 base         4020  Base shouldn't contain /var/run/utmp
 base         4089  problems with rc.local
 base         4131  majordom -- 30 or 31?
 base         4149  /etc/resolv.conf gets bad configuration
 base         4291  dselect and ftp
 base         4295  majordom passwd line is wrong
 base, ae     3146  1.1 installation: ae doesn't work
 bootdisk     2937  Copyright message function key incorrect
 bootdisk     2956  beta experience
 bootdisk     3185  Lack of NCR53c810 support on boot disk
 bootdisk     3269  bootdisk silently fails-change instalation manual
 bootdisk     3320  Kernel oops - problem with APM BIOS?
 bootdisk     4017  boot disk doesn't recognize NCR scsi 
 bootdisk     4019  Decompression failure on Install Boot Disk
 bootdisk     4060  Kernel decompression failure.
 bootdisk/r   3279  ne2000 lockups during instalation

(unknown) (107 bugs):
              4310  (no subject)
              4311  (no subject)
 9term        4243  9term leaves mouse droppings
 a2gs         3456  a2gs prompt looks like `please wait' message
 a2gs         3848  "a2gs" requires changes to support multiple arches
 a2ps         1874  a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!
 a2ps         3911  "a2ps" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ax25-kerne   1467  `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-util' should use virtual packag
 ax25-kerne   2762  ax25-kernel-source: missing source file
 ax25-util    2099  slip module stops axattach
 ax25-util    2765  ax25-util: missing source file
 bin86        1281  bin86
 bin86        3568  bin86 description: no ext
 e2fsprogs    4247  e2fsprogs calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 enscript     3483  using args with spaces in genscriptrc
 fort77       2919  very bad fort77 installation message
 fort77       3583  fort77 description: no ext
 g77          2852  Bug 2711: g77 does not include info file
 g77          3584  g77 description: ext start indented
 g77          4110  "g77" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ircd         4287  ircd postinst uses illegal option to hostname
 ircd         4288  ircd doc files have bad permissions
 j1           3525  j1 hard-linked docs/manpages
 j1           3865  "j1" requires changes to support multiple arches
 kermit       2430  kermit configuration script is hard to read on a monochrome
 libc4         911  libc causes rsh to fail on commands with option arguments
 libc4        1130  Stdlib.h problems when using gcc -O-traditional
 libc4        1211  libc __nis_getgrnam() segfaults for dpkg when using NIS
 libc4        1278  dpkg seg faults with NIS
 libc4        1279  Strangeness involving <bsd/signal.h>
 libc4        1378  weird ELF/a.out difference
 libc4        1685  dpkg-split --msdos not correct
 libc4        1774  <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH contains `.'
 libc4        2011  very silly messages from rsh
 libc5        3190  rlogin takes far too long when remote says Connection Refus
 libc5        3244  (no subject)
 libc5        3541  rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED!
 libc5        3825  0x80d3398 either misbehaves or misdocumented
 libc5        3984  NIS writes error message to STDERR
 libc5        4086  rsh segfaults with baudrate=115200
 libc5        4190  moderate security hole in telnetd
 libc5 (and   2321  libc doesn't use **h_aliases (hostent)
 libc5-dev    2387  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documented
 libc5-dev    2573  sysinfo system call not in libc
 libdb1       2483  libdb1 uses not-yet-completely-supported >= syntax
 libdb1       2504  remove -m486 from Makefile
 libdb1       2896  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libdb1       3240  [libdb]: obsolete bugfix
 libdb1       3335  Problems encountered while compiling "libdb1" for m68k arch
 libdb1       3612  libdb1 description: no ext
 libg++27     2610  support for m68k-linux
 libg++27     3626  libg++27 description: no ext
 libgdbm1     2484  libgdbm1 conflicts with some versions of perl5 and man
 libgdbm1     3321  libgdbm.so version number...
 libgdbm1     3342  Problems encountered while compiling "libgdbm1" for m68k ar
 libgpm1      4252  libgpm1 calls ldconfig in prerm/postrm script
 libjpeg6a    3590  libjpeg6a description: ext start indented
 libjpeg6a-   3608  libjpeg6a-dev description: no ext
 libreadlin   2899  postinst has bad permissions 644
 libreadlin   3345  Problems encountered while compiling "libreadline2" for m68
 m4           4260  "\n" missing in m4 Description
 ncurses3.0   1314  ncurses fails in silly way on TERM=dumb
 ncurses3.0   1997  ncurses linux terminal definition for kbs
 ncurses3.0   2085  /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs Capname definition questioned
 ncurses3.0   2291  missing terminfo capabilities for xterm
 ncurses3.0   2806  ncurses man pages internal inconsistencies
 ncurses3.0   2962  dselect arrow keys don't work after a search
 ncurses3.0   3113  dselect provokes ncurses problem when window enlarged
 ncurses3.0   3207  strange screen update choices from ncurses
 ncurses3.0   3422  termcap entry too long error
 ncurses3.0   3801  ncurses3.0 should not be essential
 ncurses3.0   3904  ncurses on mono linux console claims colour capability
 ncurses3.0   3974  problem with arrow keys in dselect (xterm)
 ncurses3.0   4298  arrow keys in dselect don't work after search
 p2c          3713  Problems encountered while compiling "p2c" on m68k arch.
 p2c          3870  "p2c" requires changes to support multiple arches
 postgres95   4112  "postgres95" requires changes for multi-arch support
 ps2pk        4217  "ps2pk" requires changes for multi-arch support
 spice        3155  spice still on my system
 ssh          4126  ssh & gpm
 ssh          4308  ssh and 256+ character pastes
 ssh          4313  ssh should use gmp's dynamic libs 
 svgalib1     2379  svgalib postinst broken
 svgalib1     2455  can't install svgalib1-1.28-5
 svgalib1     2876  svgalib will not work in a setup with serial console
 svgalib1-b   2311  svgalib has undocumented setuid program in /usr/doc/example
 svgalib1-d   3877  /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d is still a.out
 tk40         3827  Tk4.0's bell flashes the display
 tk41         3953  Tk 4.1's bell flashes the display.
 w3-el        3637  w3-el description: no ext
 wg15-local   4172  "wg15-locale" requires changes for multi-arch support
 win32binut   2650  win32binutils has /usr/bin/flex++
 win32binut   3653  win32binutils description: no ext
 win32gcc     3651  win32gcc description: no ext
 win32gcc     4292  win32gcc can't exec cc1
 win32libs    3649  win32libs description: no ext
 x10          4040  "x10" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xanim        4286  "xanim" requires changes for multi-arch support
 xaw3d        3067  broken libXaw3d
 xaw3d        3755  xaw3d shouldn't automatically install as libXaw
 xfnt100      3657  xfnt100 description: no ext
 xfnt75       3665  xfnt75 description: no ext
 xserver-ma   2039  X server font erosion
 xserver-s3   1796  missing call to ntohs in X server
 xserver-s3   3750  X server inaccessible sometimes
 xserver-s3   4056  mouse cursor in X3 server is cross-eyed
 xserver-s3   4066  strangeness with X3 server

The listing by package maintainer is posted every Wednesday,
and the listing by age of the report every Friday.

Please see the documentation for more information about how to
use the bug tracking system.  It is available on the WWW at
 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/
or
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
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Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> Rob, the declaration of ae as essential has been declared a
> bug. This kept ae from being removed which caused some to complain.

I cannot comprehend that anyone would care about one 54K package that
is arguably a special case (the most rudimentary editor).  If we were
doing stuff like this for 20 packages, fine, but we're not.

This issue is not worth worrying about.  The "right" solution (even if
we could agree on it), would require way more effort (i.e. any effort)
than the problem warrants.  Make "ae" Essential, and forget it.  We
have many more interesting and important things to worry about.

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On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:

Dirk.Eddelbuettel>
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>PACKAGE: xfishtank
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>VERSION: 2.2-1
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>1. The package contains nothing but the binary. It *must* contain at least the
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>   copyright file. Docs would be nice.
There is no copyright. The packages origin are unknown.
I can just generate a file with "Unknown" in it.

Dirk.Eddelbuettel>
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>2. It has no Depends: on libc5 or elf-x11r6lib.
Hmm. Some other packages were taken without it. Where can I find docs on
these things?

Dirk.Eddelbuettel>
Dirk.Eddelbuettel>3. It uses the old VERSION and PACKAGE_REVISION format which is obsolete.
What are the new requirements.

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>>>>> "BCW" == Brian C White <bcwhite@verisim.com> wrote:

BCW> I suggest making ghostview "Recommends: mime-support".

I don't see why this is necessary. "mime-support" brings no extra
capabilities to ghostview, AFAIK.

Ciao, Emilio.

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>>>>> "jw" == joost witteveen <joost@rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

jw> do you want me to 
jw>   1 move xosview to 'contrib', and stop maintaining it
jw>   2 just go on maintaining a broken xosview?

IMHO, you should stick with 1. There are other things that may do the
same thing xosview is supposed to do.

>From sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/INDEX.whole: 

/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/status
procmeter-1.1.tgz    displays a set of graphs with system stats
xsysinfo-1.5.tar.gz  provides a graphical representation of system
                     state

I have not checked them out, though.

Ciao, Emilio.

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Package: cron
Version: 3.0pl1-34

Running "crontab -l" has a bad habit of displaying header information
that is not actually part of the crontab.

For example:

$ crontab -l -u gnats
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (- installed on Mon Jul 29 14:07:28 1996)
# (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * /usr/lib/gnats/queue-pr --run


Those first three lines do not appear when using "crontab -e" and they
cause problems if trying to modify the crontab using a script since
reading the crontab via "crontab -l", modifying it, and the sending
the changed data to "crontab" will end up with a duplicate header stored.
The output of "crontab -l" would then be something like:

$ crontab -l | <presumably some edit script here> | crontab; crontab -l
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (- installed on Mon Jul 29 14:07:28 1996)
# (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
# (- installed on Mon Jul 29 14:07:28 1996)
# (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * /usr/lib/gnats/queue-pr --run


Would you mind stripping these first three lines from the "crontab -l"
output?
                                                  
                                               Brian
                                      ( bcwhite@verisim.com )
                                                  
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  Dirk> 1. The package contains nothing but the binary. It *must* contain at
  Dirk> least the copyright file. Docs would be nice.

  Christoph> There is no copyright. The packages origin are unknown.  I can
  Christoph> just generate a file with "Unknown" in it.

Are you sure there is nothing in the source code? I have yet to see a
(publicly released) program in which the author didn't leave a note.

  Dirk> 2. It has no Depends: on libc5 or elf-x11r6lib.

  Christoph> Hmm. Some other packages were taken without it. Where can I find
  Christoph> docs on these things?

Install a recent dpkg and read the html'ed policy and programmers manuals
below /usr/doc/dpkg, or download and study the debian sources of other
packages.

  Dirk> 3. It uses the old VERSION and PACKAGE_REVISION format which is
  Dirk> obsolete.

  Christoph> What are the new requirements.

See the policy and programmers manuals. 

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Subject: Bug#4317: xosview should display cached mem
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Package: xosview
Version: 1.3.2-6

The mem bar only shows shared/shared/buf/free which is incorrect.
It should display: used/buffer/cached/free. Shared doesnt fit in that
summary chart, and cached is missing (for recent kernels of course).
The amount of shared isnt very easy to be displayed as bar, since its seatic
has changd (can be more than physical memory for multiple usage).

Greetings
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Subject: Bug#4316: cron -- crontab -l prints excess header
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Brian C. White wrote:
> 
> Package: cron
> Version: 3.0pl1-34
> 
> Running "crontab -l" has a bad habit of displaying header information
> that is not actually part of the crontab.
> 
> For example:
> 
> $ crontab -l -u gnats
> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - edit the master and reinstall.
> # (- installed on Mon Jul 29 14:07:28 1996)
> # (Cron version -- $Id: crontab.c,v 2.13 1994/01/17 03:20:37 vixie Exp $)
> 5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * /usr/lib/gnats/queue-pr --run
> 
> [snip]
>
> Would you mind stripping these first three lines from the "crontab -l"
> output?

Yes, because I think there is useful information there (primarily
the second line, with the file name (usually) and date).

Since it's in a script anyway, why not strip it yourself:

 crontab -l |sed -e '1,/^# (Cron version/ d'

(actually "sed -e '1,3 d'" would proably be sufficient.)

I'm going to close this one.

Steve Greenland

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> 
> Package: xosview
> Version: 1.3.2-6
> 
> The mem bar only shows shared/shared/buf/free which is incorrect.
> It should display: used/buffer/cached/free. Shared doesnt fit in that
> summary chart, and cached is missing (for recent kernels of course).
> The amount of shared isnt very easy to be displayed as bar, since its seatic
> has changd (can be more than physical memory for multiple usage).

Absolutely.

I'm stopping maintaining xosview, with the previous flood of bug-reports
that I cannot do anything about, and with the apearence of procmeter
(it's very nice, all you prospective xosview buggers: try procmeter!)


Although I guess the upstream maintainer would be interested
to correct this one, I think, togehter with the other ones, I'll
just try to move xosview to contrib.



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David Engel wrote:
>Thomas Koenig writes:
>> David Engel wrote:
>> >> $ gcc -bi486-linuxaout hello.c 
>> >> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory
>> 
>> >This isn't a bug.
>> 
>> To change a bug into a feature, it needs to be documented.
>
>This has been documented for ages.

It has been documented sufficiently that you need the "-V" flag
to get a particular version of gcc.

It has not been documented sufficiently that you need to specify
"-V 2.6.3" to compile an a.out package under Debian.  This violates
the principle of least surprise.
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I will change jobs October 1st and I'm afraid I won't have enough time anymore
to do as much work for Debian as I do now. Since I will keep an internet
account I won't be lost, though. Aynway, with this lack of time I have to
give away a lot of my packages. They are all in a pretty good state. In fact
there's only one outstanding bug report and I'm currently compiling a new
upload to close that one.

The packages are:

adjtimex
fdutils
hkgerman
html2latex
joe
lshell
lyx
metamail
modules
mtools
perforate
quota
shadow
sudo
symlinks
xautolock
xcolors
xforms
xsysinfo

Any takers?

Michael
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Is there a reason why dpkg-parsechangelog is so picky about the number of
blanks used? Does it really matter if I have one or two blanks between my
email address and the date? I think it could be a bit more user friendly.
Please keep in mind that not everyone uses emacs.

Michael
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Ian Jackson writes:
> It should be 4754 - there's no point in stopping people reading it.
> (I've been saying 4754 all along, and this is what is in the policy
> manual.)

Oops, I thought that was a typo :-)

> Err, I strongly suggest that you compile the group check out of the
> executable.  This is only likely to lead to confusion.

I think I understand what you mean. But is it really that bad?

Michael

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Sven Rudolph writes:
> 
> I created an LPRng package for Debian. LPRng is an enhanced BSD-like
> print spooler and is nearly compatible. (It is available at
> ftp://iona.ie/pub/plp/LPRng/ ).

Is it's call compatible? Or does the user have to learn a new syntax?

Michael

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Michael Meskes wrote:
: 
: I will change jobs October 1st and I'm afraid I won't have enough time anymore
: to do as much work for Debian as I do now. Since I will keep an internet

...

For a first approach I'd take the lshell package.
                                  ~~~~~~

Perhaps one or two more ... but let's wait a bit ;-)


    Heiko
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My first try with the new format. Could anyone who knows more about it than
I do (Ian?) please take a look at it to see if everything's correct? Also I
wonder since it suffices to upload diff + deb + changes + dsc for the next
version, how do I tell dpkg-buildpatch to adjust? Hmm, seems I have to read
the manuals once again. Anyway, here's the .dsc and .changes file:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Source: metamail
Version: 2.7-7
Binary: metamail
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Architecture: any
Standards-Version: 0.2.1.1
Files: 
 3401751ef93bd141f0179d3ad5b2f0a6 156075 metamail_2.7.orig.tar.gz
 bca60d4306283ca50410f6530f2cadbf 16931 metamail_2.7-7.diff.gz

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2i

iQCVAwUBMiRRaCpaNcQEtuj1AQEX+QQAlT9lXE29wYSShmzvNvslx/xzr/Kb2I39
OiuYyltbb3BhSUNbCGC79sVTpH2+g8vYFA4txTpY5HcdBOn9wyv6mDcNpfeTWwX0
YznqnoCKq9zQxxIW3dJS0AsTgf7xLN4Pg7DJBzJ9cE+PU7dMh+YARJbHg6DeCEY3
PpyhVoX5w+U=
=Xrac
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Format: 1.5
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:05:10 +0200
Source: metamail
Binary: metamail
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.7-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Description: 
 metamail   - An implementation of MIME.
Changes: 
 metamail (2.7-7) unstable; urgency=LOW
 .
   * Corrected dependency (Bug#4305)
   * New packaging scheme
Files: 
 cf0037d69058833c576cc0fb8d2a7afa 604 mail optional metamail_2.7-7.dsc
 bca60d4306283ca50410f6530f2cadbf 16931 mail optional metamail_2.7-7.diff.gz
 236cef17382cdfc80d81b2dc995fe6d0 147140 mail optional metamail_2.7-7_i386.deb

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2i

iQCVAwUBMiRReipaNcQEtuj1AQE+hgP9Er9I8AxdaS4mIkJCcPr72aZS6XBBLojF
NBri4JXh3XHVopks5oe/ntYFh8Bdwr1cXGn8Q6j/YHZcT+F7ru28fFRlrYWOOuPf
sEdoyGDMewoh3Q9gLtdvgSGVmVOHereHxRojE3SahFbyo0CyinGIHwkqmgAg9C7R
BT0P3Qwsz5g=
=TU95
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-- 
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meskes@sanet.de                  |   \__ \/ /_  / // /_/ /_/ / _ \/ ___/ ___/
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Package: mfbasfnt
Version: 1.0-3

The metafont base fonts are missing important fonts, for example
cmbx14.

Here's an example:

$ xdvi example.dvi
kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK cmbx14 300 300 1+0/300 deskjet
Running MakeTeXPK cmbx14 300 300 1+0/300 deskjet
Running mf \mode:=deskjet; mag:=1+0/300; scrollmode; input cmbx14
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71 (C version 6.1)

kpathsea: Running MakeTeXMF cmbx14.mf 
I don't know how to generate cmbx14.mf!
! I can't find file `cmbx14.mf'.
<*> ...jet; mag:=1+0/300; scrollmode; input cmbx14
                                                  
Please type another input file name: 
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...jet; mag:=1+0/300; scrollmode; input cmbx14
                                                  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
MakeTeXPK failed to make cmbx14.300gf.

Here's the dvi file in question, uuencoded:

begin 600 example.dvi
M]P(!@Y+`'#L``````^@;(%1E6"!O=71P=70@,3DY-BXP-"XQ,3HQ-3$YBP``
M``$```````````````````````````````````````````````#_____H`)Y
M``"-H/VC``"@`C\``(V@_>0``(V-D3X``/,/`;#L2P`.9F8`#F9F``9C;6)X
M,32Z,8Z15=F44V.:CN]HEO]69G638I`M.7-P86YNDW5G;G-VF&60$/5R;&&1
M_V=;=6:.GQ7G&XV-D@#)<<SS"@N@8CX`"@````H````&8VUM:3$PM1R1`2''
M\P=+\6!Y``H````*````!6-M<C$PLBBU=+(IE@+'&#V3M1R-GP%___,&V9.@
M4@`'````!P````1C;7(WL3".C9$&)QNR8V^0''%SCI$54<.U(9!;V72.C8V2
M`8HXX;(H,2F.CHZ.GQX``(V2`.@``#&.CHSX````*@&#DL`<.P`````#Z`)Y
M```!EP````4``?,/`;#L2P`.9F8`#F9F``9C;6)X,33S"@N@8CX`"@````H`
M```&8VUM:3$P\P=+\6!Y``H````*````!6-M<C$P\P;9DZ!2``<````'````
2!&-M<C?Y```!50+?W]_?W]_?
`
end
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In the pgp_us package both the readme.1st.intl and the readme.doc.us both
refer to the file setup.doc, but I don't see that file anywhere in the doc
directory for pgp. Is there some reason for this to be missing?

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Susan G. Kleinmann writes:
> 
> Package: metamail
> Version: 2.7-6
> ...

A new version is underways.

Michael

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Package: netstd and netbase

Upgrade from version 2.03-1 (each) to version netbase-2.04-1 netstd-2.06-1

Hi,

during the upgrade vom version 2.03-1 from netbase and netstd to
netbase-2.04-1 netstd-2.06-1 a number of config files were overwritten
without my confirmation and even without informing me. There were:

netbase:
	/etc/hosts.deny
	/etc/hosts.allow
	
netstd:
	/etc/hosts.equiv
	/etc/diphosts
	/etc/exports
	/etc/init.d/netstd_nfs
	/etc/init.d/netstd_misc

There may be more, which I didn't find since they aren't needed on my
systems. Especially the /etc/hosts.deny is very annoying, since I've to
admin a system of several Linices which are directly connected to the
internet and I don't want my boxes to stand wide open to several attacks (I
know you can't get it water proof if your connected to the net, but it
doesn't have to be that easy to get me wasting my time in recovering the
machines).

If I remeber right, there was a question like ``Do you want our new
config-files to be installed (y/n)?'' in several packages installing things
in /etc and /etc/init.d which was a good thing. Additional there were
backups build like fiename.{debian|dpkg-old} to recover changes made.

Is there any chance the packages are constructed that way again?

[BTW] Thanks for providing debian at all. I had experiance with a
slackware--system before I changed my systems to debian, and it's much
easier to admin debian but my old slackware.

Regards
	Stefan.
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Package: doc-debian
Version: 1.0-2

In /usr/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt.gz the email address for bug
reports is debian-bugs@pixar.com, but it seems as if mails send there
never go to the debian bug logs.

WebPages/Bugs/Reporting.html contains the right address submit@bugs.debian.org.


Regards
	Herbert.


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Package: latex
Version: 2e-7

Package: mfbasfnt
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This didn't find it's way to the bug logging system as I used the old
mail address. So it's here again ...

Regards
	Herbert.

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>From thielen Sun Aug 18 02:12:48 1996
Subject: dc fonts (t1enc) are much too big
To: debian-bugs@pixar.com
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Package: latex
Version: 2e-7

Package: mfbasfnt
Version: 1.0-4


When I latex the following little document:

\documentclass[12pt,german,a4paper]{report}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}		% T1 font encoding
\begin{document}
\chapter{One}
\end{document}

LaTeX reports:
[...]
	Chapter 1.

	Overfull \hbox (1288.91795pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 4--4
	[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/24.88 Chapter 

	Overfull \hbox (436.20694pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 4--4
	[]\T1/cmr/bx/n/24.88 One  
[...]

When viewing it with xdvi, metafont creates new fonts (e.g.
dcr1200.3pk), and the characters are _BIG_.

I could resolve the problem after some hours of searching :-(  :
In latex-2e/base/unpack.ins (in the source tree) `newdc.ins' gets input.
But it seems as if the dc fonts provided in mfbasfnt_1.0-4 (and
mdcfnt_1.0-1_all - same metafont sources) are the old one (I don't know
anything about the new dc font's, just read about a version 1.2 in
cmfonts.fdd).

By

	latex olddc.ins
	mv T1*fd /usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base
	cd /usr/lib/texmf/ini; initex latex.initex

I could generate a new latex format with the old dc description.

Regards
	Herbert.


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Seems as if this message didn't find it's way to the debian bug log's,
because I didn't reply in the right way. So I send it again.

Regards
	Herbert.

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>From thielen Sat Aug 17 13:03:38 1996
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Bruce Perens's mail:

> Package: cron
> From: "Ariel O. Garcia" <ariel@cab.cnea.edu.ar>
> when running /etc/cron.daily/find, cron sends me the following mail:
> **********************
> From: root (Cron Daemon)
> Subject: Cron <root@cabtep2> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/sh>
> X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin>
> X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/root>
> X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=root>
> 
> run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/find exited with return code 1
> *****************************
> the /etc/dron.daily/find file is:
> *****************************
> #! /bin/sh
> #
> # cron script to update the `find.codes' database.
> #
> # Written by Ian A. Murdock <imurdock@debian.org>.
> 
> su nobody -c "cd / && updatedb" 2>/dev/null
> *************************

Don't know if anyone answered yet - I've read this through the mirrord
WebPages.

I had the same problem in April this year. The problem at my system was
that `nobody' didn't have a valid shell, so `su' didn't work. The
following change fixed it:

--- /etc/passwd	1996/04/24 09:15:14	1.4
+++ /etc/passwd	1996/04/29 13:18:45	1.5
@@ -24 +24 @@
-nobody:*:65534:65534:nobody:/dev/null:/dev/null
+nobody:*:65534:65534:nobody:/dev/null:


So it's not a problem of the cron package. I noticed that this is fixed
in base 1.1.0-14, probably earlier.


Regards
	Herbert.

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Hmm.  I had some trouble with vc-mode because of the way I originally
imported it into CVS, but that should have been fixed. I'll take a
closer look.


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Steve Greenland wrote:
> > Would you mind stripping these first three lines from the "crontab -l"
> > output?
> 
> Yes, because I think there is useful information there (primarily
> the second line, with the file name (usually) and date).

Could you write them to STDERR and the rest of the info to STDOUT?


> Since it's in a script anyway, why not strip it yourself:
> 
>  crontab -l |sed -e '1,/^# (Cron version/ d'
> 
> (actually "sed -e '1,3 d'" would proably be sufficient.)

I thought about this, but it requries my script to know about the
internals of crontab.  If crontab ever changed, then a problem could
arise.  I prefer to keep related functionality as together as possible.


> I'm going to close this one.

Hold on just a sec...  Let's resolve how this is going to be handled,
first.
                                             
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Package: xntp
Version: 3.5c-1

xntp's postinst only lets you input one timeserver.  It would be easy to
have it allow you to enter multiple space-seperated timeservers, and output
multiple `server' lines into /etc/ntp.conf.

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Package: lclint
Version: 2.1b-1

While installing lclint, it says

    grep: /etc/site-start.el: No such file or directory

This may or may not be cosmetic.
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Michael Meskes writes:
> Susan G. Kleinmann writes:
> > 
> > Package: metamail
> > Version: 2.7-6
> 
> Oops, wrong depends line. Please upgrade your mime-support package.
> 

(Perhaps this should be a seperate bug report; if you want one, please
let me know.)

I upgraded mime-support to  2.02-1 sometime yesterday.   

Today I re-ran dpkg --configure metamail.  This produced some odd
queries:

# dpkg --configure metamail
Setting up metamail (2.7-6) ...

New action 'view' for MIME type 'image/*'...
-->     package=metamail        view=showpicture -viewer "xloadimage -view -quiet" %s

1)      package=metamail        view=showpicture -viewer xv %s

Place at what priority? (1-2) -->1
                         ^^^<------- Notice that these indices do not match
                                     the choices above ["-->" and "1)"] 


New action 'view' for MIME type 'text/richtext'...
-->     package=metamail        view=shownonascii iso-8859-1 -e richtext -p %s; test=test "`echo %{charset} | tr "[A-Z]" "[a-z]"`" = iso-8859-1 -a "$DISPLAY" != ""; copiousoutput

1)      package=metamail        view=shownonascii iso-8859-8 -e richtext -p %s; test=test "`echo %{charset} | tr "[A-Z]" "[a-z]"`" = iso-8859-8 -a "$DISPLAY" != ""; copiousoutput

Place at what priority? (1-2) -->1
                         ^^^<------- Notice that these indices do not match
                                     the choices above ["-->" and "1)"] 


New action 'view' for MIME type 'text/richtext'...
-->     package=metamail        view=richtext %s; copiousoutput

1)      package=metamail        view=shownonascii iso-8859-1 -e richtext -p %s; test=test "`echo %{charset} | tr "[A-Z]" "[a-z]"`" = iso-8859-1 -a "$DISPLAY" != ""; copiousoutput
2)      package=metamail        view=shownonascii iso-8859-8 -e richtext -p %s; test=test "`echo %{charset} | tr "[A-Z]" "[a-z]"`" = iso-8859-8 -a "$DISPLAY" != ""; copiousoutput

Place at what priority? (1-3) -->1
                         ^^^<------- Notice that these indices do not match
                                     the choices above ["1)" and "2)"] 




This seems to be a problem with install-mime; or perhaps I did 
something wrong.  ??

Susan


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I could take xcolors and xsysinfo.  I use sudo, so I would take
that package but I'm not a very experienced sysadmin and I suppose
there might be subtle security issues that would make me less than
qualified.

Let me know.  Syrus.

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The "request-answer" does not properly quote the "@" character (as required
by perl-5) it its outgoing mail.

The offending lines are:

  print MAIL <<"EOM";
  To: $reply_to
  From: $list-request
  Subject: Your mail to $list-request@$whereami
  In-Reply-To: $in_reply_to
  Reply-To: $list-approval@$whereami

  This pre-recorded message is being sent in response to your recent
  email to $list-request@$whereami.


These should be changed to:

  print MAIL <<"EOM";
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  From: $list-request
  Subject: Your mail to $list-request\@$whereami
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Package: smail
Version: 3.1.29.1-14

Under certain obscure circumstances Smail can lose mail:

When it needs to send a bounce message it reinvokes itself with the
`-bS' flag, meaning to read SMTP commands from standard input but not
to produce responses.  It then feeds an SMTP `session' to the
subprocess.  Now, smail never produces error responses to
syntactically valid input (unlike, for example, some sendmails which
will fail a RCPT TO on a user that they think is local to them but is
unknown).

However, the subprocess may fail for some other reason.  Perhaps the
copy of Smail it wishes to reinvoke cannot be found, or has some
configuration error serious enough to cause it to fail to write the
message anywhere.

In this case the parent smail will write the message into its child
anyway and fail to notice the non-zero exit status.

I have reproduced the problem with a test setup under controlled
conditions, and can provide strace logs &c.

I'm not sure what happens if the disk is full.

Ian.


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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> In the pgp_us package both the readme.1st.intl and the readme.doc.us both
> refer to the file setup.doc, but I don't see that file anywhere in the doc
> directory for pgp. Is there some reason for this to be missing?

setup.doc is the installation guide; you don't need it because you
already have pgp installed.


Guy


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I backed Samba out to version 1.9.15p4 (which is the 1.1.x stable
package) and this bug went away.  Hopefully someone with a lot more
experience than I with network code can track down and squish this, I
assume it happens to other people as well.  I'm pretty sure it is was
caused by an attempt to access a non-existant share (was there and then
removed when the files moved to a different machine).


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In article <m0uvZI7-000VRXC@fnpc21.if.usp.br> you write:
>>>>>> "jw" == joost witteveen <joost@rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
>
>jw> do you want me to 
>jw>   1 move xosview to 'contrib', and stop maintaining it
>jw>   2 just go on maintaining a broken xosview?
>
>IMHO, you should stick with 1. There are other things that may do the
>same thing xosview is supposed to do.
>
>>>From sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/INDEX.whole: 
>
>/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/status
>procmeter-1.1.tgz    displays a set of graphs with system stats
>xsysinfo-1.5.tar.gz  provides a graphical representation of system
>                     state

Debian has packages for both, I believe. (In fact, I'm told that both
I and someone else have packaged procmeter recently, so we'll see
which one gets into the distribution :-) )

(S)


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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Michael Meskes wrote:

> shadow

I will take shadow as I am integrating it into login, passwd, etc.
anyway.


Guy


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In article <199608272109.QAA02923@bofh.me.umn.edu> Richard Kaszeta <kaszeta@me.umn.edu> writes:

> >I created an LPRng package for Debian. LPRng is an enhanced BSD-like
> >print spooler and is nearly compatible. (It is available at
> >ftp://iona.ie/pub/plp/LPRng/ ).
> >
> >I'm thinking of obsoleting the lpr package by LPRng.
> 
> >Cons:
> >- minor incompatibility (needs addditional flag in printcap for
> >  printing to BSD lpd printers)
> >- not as widespread as BSD lpr
> 
> Well, if its not completely compatible with lpr (a rather
> well-entrenched standard), I certainly think it *should not* obsolete
> lpr.

The only incompatibility is that you might have to add a :bk: entry to
the printcap in order to print to a BSD-lpd-based network printer. But
especially in these environments LPRng can make life easier, so I
believe this to be acceptable.

	Sven
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In article <199608281310.PAA05321@feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Michael Meskes <meskes@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> writes:

> Sven Rudolph writes:
> > 
> > I created an LPRng package for Debian. LPRng is an enhanced BSD-like
> > print spooler and is nearly compatible. (It is available at
> > ftp://iona.ie/pub/plp/LPRng/ ).
> 
> Is it's call compatible? Or does the user have to learn a new syntax?

The commands are the same as in BSD lpr (lpr, lpq, lprm, lpc,
lpd). They have additional options for new features.

	Sven
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Package: manpages
Version: 1.11-4

I suggest that the following patch be applied to
``/usr/man/man3/hsearch.3''.

-BEGIN------------------------------------------------------------------
--- hsearch.3.orig      Wed Aug 28 21:52:40 1996
+++ hsearch.3   Wed Aug 28 22:00:33 1996
@@ -29,11 +29,14 @@
 .nf
 .B #include <search.h>
 .sp
-.BI "ENTRY *hsearch(ENTRY " item ", ACTION " action ");
-.RE
+.BI "ENTRY *hsearch(ENTRY " item ", ACTION " action ");"
+.sp
+.BI "int hsearch(unsigned " nel ");"
+.sp
+.BI "void hdestroy(void);"
 .fi
 .SH DESCRIPTION
-This three functions allow the user to create a hash table of type
+These three functions allow the user to create a hash table of type
 \fIENTRY\fP (defined in \fB<search.h>\fP) which associates a key 
 with any data. The implementation uses \fBmalloc(3)\fP.
 .PP
@@ -41,7 +44,7 @@
 \fInel\fP is an estimation of the table size which will suffice the
 needs. For better algorithms this value can be corrected upwards.
 .PP
-The corresponding function \fIhdestroy()\fP frees the memory occupied by
+The corresponding function \fBhdestroy()\fP frees the memory occupied by
 the hash table for that a new table can be constructed.
 .PP
 \fIhsearch()\fP is the function for searching and inserting. Which action
@@ -51,9 +54,9 @@
 and \fIFIND\fP means to only search. Unsuccesful actions result in a
 return value \fINULL\fP.
 .SH "RETURN VALUE"
-\fBhcreate()\fP return zero if the hash table cannot be succesfully installed.
+\fBhcreate()\fP returns zero if the hash table cannot be succesfully installed.
 .PP
-\fBhsearch()\fP return \fINULL\fP if either action is \fIENTER\fP and the
+\fBhsearch()\fP returns \fINULL\fP if either action is \fIENTER\fP and the
 hash table is full or action is \fIFIND\fP and the \fIitem\fP cannot be find
 in the hash table.
 .SH BUGS
-END--------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Richard Kettlewell   richard@greenend.org.uk   richard@elmail.co.uk
                             http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/


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I know that at one point the dselect/dpkg combination had fairly serious
problems if the same package name existed with multiple versions.  I learned
this the hard way when I installed from a mirror that had not run to
completion and thus had not deleted the older packages.

Dpkg installed _both_ versions of the packages at the same time and really
got screwed up.

The reason I bring this up is that there are now several package that are
_intentionally_ in the distribution multiple times with different versions:

  Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/text/gs_2.62-2.deb
  non-free/binary/gs_4.01-2.deb

  Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/text/gsfonts_2.62-2.deb
  non-free/binary/gsfonts_3.53-3.deb

  Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/tex/lyx_0.9.23-1.deb
  contrib/binary/lyx_0.10.1-1.deb

These are already causing a bit of a problem with 'dftp' and I'm wondering
if they are/will cause problems with dselect/dpkg.


*** Bruce ***
What's the "official" word on duplicate packages this way?
                                             
                                          Brian
                                 ( bcwhite@verisim.com )
                                             
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> *** Bruce ***
> What's the "official" word on duplicate packages this way?

Ian Jackson wields the fiat power where software packaging is concerned.

Try dpkg_1.3.9 (or whatever version is now in incoming). Make up a good
test case and report the results as a bug.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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cas@taz.net.au (Craig Sanders)  wrote on 24.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960824104353.11922I-100000@siva.taz.net.au>:

> sorry to take so long to reply to this...i've been too busy at work to
> even check my mailing lists.

Well, *I*'ve been on vacation. There's not much that I still want to  
comment on ...

> > Nowhere at all has the /etc/default proposal asked for massive changes
> > to the system.
> >
> > Nowhere at all has someone asked that tar be changed to support
> > /etc/default/tar.
>
> tar was just one example.

An example of how SysV uses this directory, yes.

> how is tar going to get its default options from /etc/default/tar if it
> isn't hacked to read that file?

It isn't. *Nobody* said it had to.

> making changes to many programs to enable them to read /etc/default/*
> files seems to me to qualify as 'massive changes to the system'.

And this *was* *not* proposed.

Changing scripts to do this instead of using hardcoded values *was*  
proposed.



MfG Kai


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Package: util-linux
Version: 2.5-5

If clock is invoked with the -u flag and the kernel has the real time
clock enabled, it causes a segmentation fault.  omitting the -u flag
or running a kernel with the real time clock disabled will not cause
the problem.

I don't have the strace handy, but I can provide it if needed.

Debian version: rex-current

uname -a:
Linux pinky 2.0.13 #13 Sun Aug 25 09:59:02 CDT 1996 i486

libc: 5.2.18

-Larry


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crh@nts.umn.edu (Christopher R. Hertel)  wrote on 12.08.96 in <320FA0B7.41C6@nts.umn.edu>:

> Problem: On some systems, the compressed kernel image provided on the
> installation floppy (boot1440.bin) is not decompressed properly when
> read from floppy.  One solution that seems to work for most users is to
> *disable the internal cache*.  If this does not work for you, try
> disabling both the internal and external cache.  This is done via the
> bios setup.
>
> This is not a fix, but a work-around.  I have tested this on my system
> (which has this behavior), and disabling the internal cache allows the
> kernel decompression to proceed.  It is my understanding (I have not had
> a chance to test this) that the cache can be re-enabled once the system
> has been installed.

If disabling the cache makes a difference, this is almost certainly a  
hardware problem. The problem will not be isolated to floppy boots,  
however; it will still bite you from time to time, when the circumstances  
are just right.

The best solution is either changing the timing, or changing the relevant  
hardware - for internal cache, that's the CPU (or the CPU clock).


MfG Kai


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I bit the bullet today and decided to install and implement pgp. Searching
the packages files did not turn it up, but I was able to deduce that it
was therefore, in non-free. However the search turned up this information:

mailcrypt      -  depends: pgp
dchanges       -  recommends: pgp
elm and w3-el  -  suggests: pgp

Now, as it happens, I have also been reading the new Policy manual (BTW,
thank you Ian J. for this fine piece of work. It has been long needed and
I for one greatly appreciate your work) and it has some things to say
about this issue. In particular it says that packages that depend on
packages in non-free are to reside in contrib (or non-free if other
restictions apply). This makes it clear that mailcrypt should be in
contrib rather than the distribution proper. It isn't specific about those
packages that recommend or suggest a non-free package, but at least
recommend is strict enough to require special intervention with dselect in
order to install a package without it's recommends. The policy on these
conditions should be made more clear.

Thoughts?

Dwarf

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Package: emacs
Version: 19.31-2

I just upgraded from 19.29-3, and it left me with the following
/etc/site-start.el:
 (load "/usr/lib/emacs/19.29/lisp/jka-compr.elc")
 (if (file-exists-p "/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/w3-init.el") (load "w3-init"))
 (autoload 'lout-mode "lout-mode" "Mode for editing Lout source" t)
 (setq auto-mode-alist (append '(("\\.lout$" . lout-mode)) auto-mode-alist))
 (require 'vm-init)

This caused Emacs to fail to start because of the changed version
number in the pathname for jka-compr.

IMO this entry should not have used an absolute pathname, rather, it
should rely on the load-path.

If it did need an absolute pathname the Emacs postinst should have
fixed it up.

Ian.


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crh@nts.umn.edu (Christopher R. Hertel)  wrote on 12.08.96 in <320FA0B7.41C6@nts.umn.edu>:

> Problem: On some systems, the compressed kernel image provided on the
> installation floppy (boot1440.bin) is not decompressed properly when
> read from floppy.  One solution that seems to work for most users is to
> *disable the internal cache*...

Kai:
> If disabling the cache makes a difference, this is almost certainly a  
> hardware problem.

We can, however, probably work around it, and if we can we should.

The suspicion is that we have to invalidate the CPU cache around the switching
of the A20 gate, and perhaps around the jump from 16-bit to 32-bit code
in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/setup.S . I am no 486 assembler expert, and
I am too busy with other stuff to do this. Any volunteers? Chris is able to
test it if you can hack up a kernel with the appropriate instructions inserted.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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In article <199608282049.WAA16714@os.inf.tu-dresden.de> you wrote:
: 
: The only incompatibility is that you might have to add a :bk: entry to
: the printcap in order to print to a BSD-lpd-based network printer. 

I care a lot about compatibility with other BSD'ish lpd-based systems.  I 
could live with this easily.

Bdale


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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> In particular it says that packages that depend on
> packages in non-free are to reside in contrib (or non-free if other
> restictions apply).

I've also been meaning to bring this up, but from another angle.
Previously, Ian, you've said that packages which depend on a non-free
package must be put in non-free, hence the current location.

The reasoning behind this is that a CD would typically have no non-free
packages.  Selecting mailcrypt would apparently confuse dselect as it
would not be able to find pgp.

I just wanted to confirm that dselect would not have problems with
moving mailcrypt and other such packages into contrib.


Guy


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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Brian C. White wrote:

> The reason I bring this up is that there are now several package that are
> _intentionally_ in the distribution multiple times with different versions:
> 
>   Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/text/gs_2.62-2.deb
>   non-free/binary/gs_4.01-2.deb

This is the only intentional duplication.  Some discussion is pending
on whether to rename one of them.

>   Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/text/gsfonts_2.62-2.deb
>   non-free/binary/gsfonts_3.53-3.deb
> 
>   Debian-1.1-fixed/binary-i386/tex/lyx_0.9.23-1.deb
>   contrib/binary/lyx_0.10.1-1.deb

These duplications are temporary.  The new Alladin gsfonts will soon be
in the main distribution as it can be.  And lyx has moved to contrib.
There's a bug pending on ftp.debian.org for me to correct the packages
that have moved out of the main distribution in buzz.

> These are already causing a bit of a problem with 'dftp' and I'm wondering
> if they are/will cause problems with dselect/dpkg.

I suggest you use dpkg-ftp instead of dftp.


Guy


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Susan G. Kleinmann writes:
> (Perhaps this should be a seperate bug report; if you want one, please
> let me know.)

No, it's not a bug I think.

> [...]
> New action 'view' for MIME type 'image/*'...
> -->     package=metamail        view=showpicture -viewer "xloadimage -view -quiet" %s
> 
> 1)      package=metamail        view=showpicture -viewer xv %s
> 
> Place at what priority? (1-2) -->1
>                          ^^^<------- Notice that these indices do not match
>                                      the choices above ["-->" and "1)"] 

Where's th problem? You can install it as priority 1  (and thus moving
'showpicture -viewer xv %s' to 2) or you install it as 2 (and let
'showpicture -viewer xv %s' be 1). There are two lines given. Thus you need
two priorities.

> [...]
> This seems to be a problem with install-mime; or perhaps I did 

Yes, that's right. My metamail package just calls install-mime.

Michael


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Did you upgrade from 19.29-3 to 19.31-2 as indicated in your message,
or to 19.34-2, which is current? (I ask, because I just got the bug
report today, and it appears to be about a day old -- but if you
actually reported it before 8/27, then there is a bug tracking problem
that needs attention.)

I can see about making the emacs postinst smarter, but it's clear that
the line you quoted from site-start was what was wrong in the first
place.  I don't know, however, what package included it (which is a
part of the reason for the change in the way startup code is handled...)


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Hello out there ...

perhaps I've missed an announcement or similar.  Just I've downloaded
qt-0.98, a C++ Class Library for GUI development (X11, WinNT, other?).

The library (and source) seems to be free for X11 && devel of free
software.  As time of this writing the libs get compiled.  Some two
minor Makefile-Patches were necessary and now the tutorials and examples
run.

Now my question:  Is anybody out there already debianizing this library?

[ BTW: Source & Binary RPMs exist already ... ]
[ For further information I'll append the announcement from c.o.l.a. ]

    Heiko
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From: info@troll.no
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Troll Tech is proud to relase a free version of Qt for the X Window
System. This release, Qt 0.98, is free for non-commercial use on all
operating systems that support the X Window System and includes the
complete Qt source code for X.

Qt 0.98 is intended as a bugfix release.

Qt 0.98 includes makefiles for Linux, Solaris, SunOS, FreeBSD and
OSF/1. New platforms will be added in the near future.  There are also
source and binary RPMs for linux.

Qt is a complete and well-developed object-oriented framework for
developing graphical user interface applications using C++. It has been
used professionally for over a year.

Qt has excellent documentation: 450 pages of postscript and fully
cross-referenced online html documentation. See it on the web:
http://www.troll.no/qt/

Qt is easy to learn, with consistent naming across all the classes and a
14-chapter on-line tutorial with links into the rest of the documentation.

Qt dramatically cuts down on development time and complexity in writing
user interface software for X-Windows.  It allows the programmer to focus
directly on the programming task, and not mess around with low-level X11
code.

Qt is fully object-oriented. All widgets and dialogs are C++ objects,
and, using inheritance, creation of new widgets is easy and natural.

Qt's revolutionary signal/slot mechanism provides true component
programming. Reusable components can work together without any knowledge
of each other, and in a type-safe way.

Qt has a very fast paint engine, in some cases ten times faster than
most other toolkits. You have full access to low-level painting
functionality. Painting is device independent, so the same code that draws
on the screen can generate printer output.  You can also do arbitrary
clipping, rotation, and scaling - simply and fast.

Qt is very fast and compact because it is based directly on Xlib and uses
neither Motif nor X Intrinsics.  Qt's widgets (user interface objects)
emulate the Motif look and feel, with slight improvements.

Qt is available under several licenses:

	- for commercial use
	- for use with free software (X only)
	- for shareware developers (X only)

Note that the toolkit is the same, only the licenses differ.

The Qt GUI toolkit is copyright Troll Tech AS.  It is available (at the
time of writing) for Windows 95/NT and several variations of unix (X11
release 5 or later).  See http://www.troll.no/ for more availability
information, or fax Troll Tech at +47 22646949.

Qt can be downloaded from http://www.troll.no/dl/ or via anonymous FTP
from ftp.troll.no.

Join the qt-interest mailing list by sending a message containing the
single word "subscribe" to qt-interest-request@nvg.unit.no.

You can contact Troll Tech at

	Troll Tech AS
	Postboks 6133 Etterstad
	N-0602 Oslo
	Norway

	fax: +47 22646949
	email: sales@troll.no

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Title:          Qt toolkit
Version:        0.98
Entered-date:   11jul96
Description:    C++ GUI class library with Motif look and feel
Keywords:       gui library motif c++
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Hello,

to avoid duplicated effort ... is anybody out there already debianizing
the ctags package from Darren Hiebert <darren@sirsi.com>?

If not, I'd do it.

For further information about ctags I've appended posting to c.o.l.a.

[ And yes, I know of elvis-ctags, but it's up the user to evaluate which 
  is the true better ctags ... for me Darrens Ctags did it quite good. ]

    Heiko
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Subject: Exuberant Ctags-1.4 - a better ctags
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Announcing: Exuberant Ctags 1.4
Author    : Darren Hiebert


Announcement
============
This is to announce an update of my new, better ctags utility. I am quite
pleased with it, and others who have used it have been enthusiastic about
the greater reliability and functionality it provides.

You can find it at:

	sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming/ctags-1.4.tar.gz (for now)
or
	sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/devel/lang/c/ctags-1.4.tar.gz (once moved)

and also at either of:

	http://fly.hiwaay.net/~darren/ctags.html  (Official Web site)
	ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/local/gvr/ctags-1.4.tar.gz


Changes since version 1.3:
==========================
 o  Added ability to recursively parse into class/struct/enum blocks to
    look for nested class/struct/enum tags and enumeration values.

 o  Added feature to allow a specified list of tokens to be ignored while
    parsing the file. This is particularly useful when prototyping macros
    appear before the parameter list.

 o  Corrected problem where declaring a pointer const or volatile resulted
    in no tag being generated.

 o  Correction to bug causing a function tag to be generated for comma
    terminated function declarations.

 o  Various portability changes.


What is ctags?
==============
Ctags generates an index (or "tag") file of C language objects found in a
set of file that allows these items to be quickly and easily located by a
text editor or other utility. A "tag" signifies a C language object for
which an index entry is available (or, alternatively, the index entry
created for that object).

Alternatively, ctags can generate a cross reference file which lists, in
human readable form, information about the various objects found in a set
of C language files.

Tag index files are supported by the vi(1) editor and its derivatives
(such as vim, elvis, stevie, xvi, and others) through the use of the ":ta"
command, which locates the object associated with a name appearing in a
source file and jumps to the file and line which defines the name.


What makes this ctags desirable?
================================
1.  It can find *all* types of C language tags, including all of the
    following:

            macro definitions
            enumerated values (values inside enum{...})
            function and method definitions
            enum/struct/union tags
            external function prototypes (optional)
            typedefs
            variable declarations

2.  It is far less easily fooled by code containing #if preprocessor
    conditional constructs, using a conditional path selection algorithm
    to resolve complicated choices, and a fall-back algorithm when this one
    fails.

3.  Can also be used to print out a list of selected objects found in source
    files.

4.  Supports UNIX, MSDOS, WindowsNT, Windows95, OS/2 and the Amiga. In some
    cases, you may need to play with the include files, depending upon you
    compiler. Some pre-compiled binaries may become available on the web site.

I wrote this because of my disappointment with the other ctags utilities that
are available. However, it does have a couple of minor limitations (you be the
judge):

1)  Support for C++ is limited.
2)  Supports only C; not Lisp, shell scripts, or anything else you might
    think of.


LSM Entry:
==========
Begin3
Title:          Exuberant Ctags
Version:        1.4
Entered-date:   20AUG96
Description:    A better ctags which generates tags for all possible tag
		types: macro definitions, enumerated values (values inside
		enum{...}), function and method definitions, enum/struct/union
		tags, external function prototypes (optional), typedefs, and 
		variable declarations. It is far less easily fooled by code
		containing #if preprocessor conditional constructs, using a
		conditional path selection algorithm to resolve complicated
		choices, and a fall-back algorithm when this one fails. Can
		also be used to print out a list of selected objects found in
		source files.
Keywords:       ctags, tags, exuberant
Author:         darren@sirsi.com (Darren Hiebert)
		darren@hiwaay.net (Darren Hiebert)
Primary-site:   sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/devel/lang/c
		29kB ctags-1.4.tar.gz
Alternate-site: ftp.halcyon.com /local/gvr
		29kB ctags-1.4.tar.gz
Original-site:  http://fly.hiwaay.net/~darren
		29kB archives/ctags-1.4.tar.gz
Platforms:      UNIX, MSDOS, WindowsNT, Windows95, OS/2, Amiga
Copying-policy: Public domain
End

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Darren Hiebert <darren@sirsi.com>             SIRSI Corporation
http://fly.hiwaay.net/~darren                 Huntsville, AL  (205) 922-9820

                 "I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous"
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"Brian C. White":
> Could you write them to STDERR and the rest of the info to STDOUT?

An option to suppress them might be better.

> I thought about this, but it requries my script to know about the
> internals of crontab.  If crontab ever changed, then a problem could
> arise.  I prefer to keep related functionality as together as possible.

I can't remember that I've seen the extra header for other cron's. That
means that the scripts need to be modified when moving them from or to
a Debian system. Not a good idea, generally.

I don't think doing "crontab -l > foo; crontab foo" should modify the
crontab. That's counter-intuitive.

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Package: amd
Version: upl102-3

Hi,

I am running the amd ("The 4.4BSD automounter") under Debian Linux
to mount users' home directories (and other shared filesystems).

The problem is that certain filesystems cause amd to lock up the
system, whereas mounting them using "mount" works fine. Other
filesystems work without any problems.

Amd appears to fork - presumably the child process attempts to perform 
the mount. Killing the "login" process, and the child "amd" process 
allows the system to run normally again, but attempting to access the 
same automount point again causes the behaviour to be repeated.
Any attempt to access any automount points from a shell just hangs the
shell (CTRL-C doesn't even get the prompt back).

The log messages do not shed any light on the problem. Eventually a
"fileserver xxx not responding still trying" appears, but the
fileserver itself is actually fine.

I'm using Debian 1.1, 2.0.0 kernel, libc.so.5.2.18

Amd is also used here on SunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris, and works without
this problem. I am using a direct copy of the map files.

The same problem occurs using Slackware and RedHat Linux and on 
different hardware. 

TIm.


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In article <m0uw0ZL-000DwaC@iva.lotte.sax.de> heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann) writes:

> perhaps I've missed an announcement or similar.  Just I've downloaded
> qt-0.98, a C++ Class Library for GUI development (X11, WinNT, other?).
> 
> The library (and source) seems to be free for X11 && devel of free
> software.  As time of this writing the libs get compiled.  Some two
> minor Makefile-Patches were necessary and now the tutorials and examples
> run.
> 
> Now my question:  Is anybody out there already debianizing this library?

Lee Olds <olds@eskimo.com> works on it. Ask him about the current state.

	Sven
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Package: wu-ftpd
Version: 2.4-23

I don't know the exploit, but tar in the anon ftp area is the
same as the normal one, so I think Debian systems may have this
problem too.  Two messages from the linux-security list (the
second one includes a patch for tar - only for anon ftp, not
for the normal one!) are attached below.

Marek

From: Elliot Lee <sopwith@redhat.com>
To: redhat-announce-list@redhat.com
cc: linux-alert@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu, bugtraq@crimelab.com
Subject: [linux-security] [linux-alert] SECURITY FIX/UPDATE: anonftp
Date: 	Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:57:03 -0400 (EDT)

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There is a security hole in the anonftp package included with all versions
of Red Hat Linux that allows an anonymous FTP user to execute arbitrary
commands in the chroot FTP environment. Due to some options in GNU tar
that are enabled by default, any program that exists (or can be uploaded
to) an FTP server can be run.

Severity is limited due to the chroot environment, but the problem still
needs to be addressed.

Updates are available on ftp.redhat.com now.

If you are using a version prior to 3.0.3, an upgrade is recommended to
solve other security holes.

If you are using 3.0.3 on the Intel, get
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-3.0.3/i386/updates/RPMS/anonftp-2.0-2.i386.rpm
and install it using 'rpm -Uvh [filename]'

If you are using 3.0.3 on the Alpha, get
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redhat-3.0.3/axp/updates/RPMS/anonftp-2.0-2.axp.rpm
and install it using 'rpm -Uvh [filename]'

If you are using 3.0.4 (Rembrandt BETA) on the Intel, get
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rembrandt/i386/updates/RPMS/anonftp-2.2-2.i386.rpm
and install it using 'rpm -Uvh [filename]'

If you are using 3.0.4 (Rembrandt BETA) on the Sparc, get
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rembrandt/sparc/updates/RPMS/anonftp-2.2-2.sparc.rpm
and install it using 'rpm -Uvh [filename]'

All packages are PGP signed. Source packages are available in the usual
locations.

MD5 checksums:

ea1798199eb426695c6d4c2ad4106422  anonftp-2.0-2.axp.rpm
764ee004e25c3e278290820dbd58cc58  anonftp-2.0-2.i386.rpm
cb0b1905ab8d389d64677519913346a5  anonftp-2.0-2.src.rpm

c14af78ec7d5083b54e61f973ca7c6fb  anonftp-2.2-2.i386.rpm
760cb3d5bb37c618f1b84f1aa0f5ea53  anonftp-2.2-2.sparc.rpm
a2f3fb6e06fca1485e3f11e5e04f83d8  anonftp-2.2-2.src.rpm

Thanks to Alan Cox for finding this problem.

- -- Elliot Lee <sopwith@redhat.com>
   Red Hat Software, http://www.redhat.com/

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Date: 	Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:05:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Elliot Lee <sopwith@redhat.com>
To: Roscinante <rosc@fbn.globalent.net>
cc: linux-security@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu
Subject: [linux-security] Re: Anon ftp pkg?

On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Roscinante wrote:

> Does the updated anonftp pkg have a fixed version of tar?

Yes, that's all that changed :-)

> I've been trying all night to get rpm working on my slack system, am I
> wasting my time (someone told me all thats in the updated anonftp pkg is
> a config script)? 

No.

>  Are there options in tar that should be disabled at compile time?
> What options are exploitable? Please cc me directly.

I have attached a patch to tar that you can compile tar with to fix it.

Hope this helps,
 --==== Elliot Lee = <sopwith@redhat.com> == Red Hat Software ====--
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--- tar-1.11.8/src/tar.c.sopwith	Sat Jun 17 16:48:32 1995
+++ tar-1.11.8/src/tar.c	Mon Aug 19 12:19:16 1996
@@ -22,6 +22,8 @@
 
 #include "system.h"
 
+#include <syslog.h>
+
 #ifndef FNM_LEADING_DIR
 # include <fnmatch.h>
 #endif
@@ -1202,14 +1204,19 @@
 	break;
 
       case OPTION_COMPRESS_PROG:
-	if (flag_compressprog)
-	  ERROR ((TAREXIT_FAILURE, 0,
-		  _("Only one compression option permitted")));
-	flag_compressprog = optarg;
+	openlog("ftp tar", 0, LOG_DAEMON);
+	syslog(LOG_WARNING,"Attempt to run tar via FTP with compress command %s",
+		optarg);
+	closelog();
+	flag_compressprog = NULL;
 	break;
 
       case OPTION_RSH_COMMAND:
-	flag_rsh_command = optarg;
+	openlog("ftp tar", 0, LOG_DAEMON);
+	syslog(LOG_WARNING,"Attempt to run tar via FTP with rsh command %s",
+		optarg);
+	closelog();
+	flag_rsh_command = NULL;
 	break;
 
       case 'g':


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Package: xlib
Version: 3.1.2-7

It seems there is a buffer overrun in libXt, which may be a security
hole (some programs using libXt, such as xterm, are setuid root).
I haven't tried to exploit it, but xterm -fg very_long_string
segfaults, so it might be exploitable (stack overwrite).  See the
attached message (which appeared on the bugtraq list) for a patch.

I haven't verified that the fix is indeed in XFree86-3.1.2F (just
released) - can't get to ftp.xfree86.org right now (too many users)
and can't find this version on mirror sites yet.

Marek

> Date:         Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:05:16 -0700
> From: Ollivier Robert <roberto%keltia.freenix.fr@plearn.edu.pl>
> Subject:      Re: Vulnerability in the Xt library (fwd)
> To: Multiple recipients of list BUGTRAQ <BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG>

> According to John Capo:
> > Stefan `Sec` Zehl writes:
> > > I can confirm this for Freebsd 2.2-Current, it gives me a euid=0 /bin/sh
> 
> > I can also.  The xterm cores on -stable though.
> 
> I sent a patch and a portable version of snprintf to both the X consortium
> and Xfree86 yesterday. It will be in 3.1.2F.
> 
> If you have XFree sources on-line and are willing to recompile, apply the
> following patch in xc/lib/Xt:
> 
> --- Error.c.old Sun Aug 25 14:57:28 1996
> +++ Error.c     Sun Aug 25 14:47:14 1996
> @@ -238,5 +238,5 @@
>         (void) memmove((char*)par, (char*)params, i * sizeof(String) );
>         bzero( &par[i], (10-i) * sizeof(String) );
> -        (void) sprintf(message, buffer, par[0], par[1], par[2], par[3],
> +        (void) snprintf(message, sizeof message, buffer, par[0], par[1], par[2], par[3],
>                        par[4], par[5], par[6], par[7], par[8], par[9]);
>         XtError(message);
> @@ -263,5 +263,5 @@
>         (void) memmove((char*)par, (char*)params, i * sizeof(String) );
>         bzero ( &par[i], (10-i) * sizeof(String) );
> -        (void) sprintf(message, buffer, par[0], par[1], par[2], par[3],
> +        (void) snprintf(message, sizeof message, buffer, par[0], par[1], par[2], par[3],
>                        par[4], par[5], par[6], par[7], par[8], par[9]);
>         XtWarning(message);
> 
> --
> Ollivier ROBERT    -=- The daemon is FREE! -=-    roberto@keltia.freenix.fr
> FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #18: Sun Aug 18 19:16:52 MET DST 1996
> 


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Hi,

is there any way to change the subject line of an already existing
bug report?  This hole is a really *serious* (not moderate) one -
it lets any local and remote users read any file on the system.

I think there are two possible ways to fix it:
(1) ignore the dangerous environment variables completely (is anyone
    actually using them?  I heard about them for the first time from
    the security alert...).  If anyone needs these features - create
    a separate full-featured resolver library people can use (for
    non-setuid programs only) by setting LD_PRELOAD.

(2) ignore them if (geteuid() != getuid() || getegid() != getgid()).
    Problem: you can pass them to login via telnetd, so telnetd
    needs to be fixed too.  Anyway, I think telnetd should do what
    the one in NetKit-0.08 does: allow only a few (known to be safe)
    environment variables, and don't allow the rest.  Right now, we
    check for a few variables known to be dangerous - and we can't
    be sure that there are no more.  The bash man page mentions
    BASH_ENV in one place, and it's not checked by telnetd.

Marek


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Karl Sackett writes ("dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions"):
> Regarding the -r option for dpkg-buildpackage, are there any
> examples of what's called for here?  Is the gain-root-command
> something each developer provides for himself, or is there a command
> or shell somewhere that performs this function?

How to get root is a piece of local policy, so you provide it
yourself.  It's possible that `su' or `sudo' or `really' or `super'
may be available to you and DTRT.

> Invoked as root, dpkg-buildpackage works fine.  But when I try to unpack the
> new package this is what happens:
> 
> mycroft$ dpkg-source -x exmh_1.6.9-1.dsc
> dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz' contains object with
> newline in its name (exmh-1.6.9.orig/?exmh-1.6.9.orig/exmh.README?exmh-1.6.9.or
> ig/COPYRIGHT?exmh-1.6.9.orig/e...(rest of output deleted)
> 
> This happens with the packages I build and with the hello package I downloaded
> from  master.

Needless to say this doesn't happen to me.  I think your cpio or your
perl is broken.

Please send me by private email the output of the following commands
(feeding it to sh and sending me all the output concatenated is fine):
  md5sum exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz
  zcat exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz | md5sum
  cpio --version
  perl -v
  type cpio perl
  which cpio perl
  dpkg -s cpio perl
  echo -e 'ab\0cd\0' | perl -e '$/="\0";while(<>){print">$_<\n";}' | cat -vET
  zcat exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz | cpio -0t | uuencode cpio-0t
  gzip -9v <`type -p cpio` | uuencode cpio.gz
(If you want to MIME-attach it make sure that the file is in
`Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit'.)

Thanks,
Ian.


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Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1

Right now, telnetd checks for a few dangerous environment variables.
I think it should do what telnetd in NetKit-0.08 does: only allow
a few variables which are known to be safe, and don't allow any
others.  The problem is that you never know that the list of the
dangerous variables is complete.

For example, we check for ENV, but not for BASH_ENV (mentioned in
the bash man page in one place - GNU creeping featurism strikes
again, argh), and also not for RESOLV_HOST_CONF and a few others.
NetKit-0.08 telnetd only allows DISPLAY, TERM, USER, LOGNAME and
POSIXLY_CORRECT.  I think we should do the same (ideally, the list
should be made configurable without recompiling, but that can be
done later).

Marek


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Package: squid
Version: 1.0.beta16-1

In the default configuration, squid runs as root.  While it can be
changed in the config file, someone might forget to configure it
after installation, so I think the default should be secure.  The
permissions/ownerships in /var/squid and /var/log/squid should be
changed accordingly.  I think squid should ideally run under its
own allocated UID/GID.

Marek


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Package: textutils
Version: 1.17-2

-chiark:~> echo -e 'hi^IthereM-z\011hi' | cat -vET
hi^IthereM-z^Ihi$
-chiark:~>

As you can see, it's not possible to distinguish a single escaped
control character ^<something> or M-<something> from the corresponding
sequence of printable characters.

There should be an option to do a reversible transformation.  I don't
particularly care what the transformation is, provided that it's not
insane.

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Package: ssh
Version: 1.2.14-1

sshd writes to the file /etc/ssh/ssh_random_seed during normal
operation - the file should be moved to /var according to the
FSSTND recommendations.

Marek


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Package: ssh
Version: 1.2.14-1

The package is compiled with the -g -O flags (autoconf default)
- this results in larger and slower binaries.  It might be a good
idea to use -O2 instead (no -g) and maybe strip the binaries too.

Marek


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>The same problem occurs using Slackware and RedHat Linux and on 
>different hardware. 

Would you be willing to try another amd package?  To solve local
problems here I hand-patched a few things in the amd package, and
rolled in a few other patched from various newsgroups, and it has
worked without error for a month.

http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta/amd-upl102-custom1.i386.deb

*Please* let me know if you use it, and whether it works or not.

(Warning, it's config is a little different from the other amd packages).

-- 
Richard W Kaszeta 			Graduate Student/Sysadmin
bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu			University of MN, ME Dept
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At 1996-08-28 21:59 +0000, Brian C. White wrote:
>I know that at one point the dselect/dpkg combination had fairly serious
>problems if the same package name existed with multiple versions.  I learned
>this the hard way when I installed from a mirror that had not run to
>completion and thus had not deleted the older packages.
>
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>The reason I bring this up is that there are now several package that are
>_intentionally_ in the distribution multiple times with different versions:

I think this is a useful feature and would like to see it on the wishlist
at least.  I'd definitely like to see dselect come up with a list of
multiple versions that are available -- from both stable and unstable, for
example -- and allow me to choose betwen them.  I'm guessing it would also
make support easier for the "realms" I mumbled about a few weeks ago.

(Of course, I ca'n't offer code at the moment so my opinion carries little
weight.)

--
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Package: ssh
Version: 1.2.14-1

If compiled on a system which has no /etc/shadow file, sshd
doesn't support shadow passwords when using the password
authentication.  All the necessary code is already there (will
work with both shadow and non-shadow passwords) - all that is
needed is to hack the configure script a little so that it
defines HAVE_ETC_SHADOW in config.h.  (it should really check
for getspnam() instead of /etc/shadow, like GNU su does)

(Alternatively, just do "touch /etc/shadow" before building
the package.)

Marek


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Hi,
(debian bug, Elliot)

> Package: wu-ftpd
> Version: 2.4-23
> 
> I don't know the exploit, but tar in the anon ftp area is the
> same as the normal one, so I think Debian systems may have this
> problem too.  Two messages from the linux-security list (the
> second one includes a patch for tar - only for anon ftp, not
> for the normal one!) are attached below.

AFAIK it is along the line wit 

"site exec tar cvzf -rsh-command blafasel host:tar.tgz"

Of course there should be no tar binary in the site exec directory,
therefore I wonder where the problem ist... But I guess a strip down binary
version of tar together with a striped down binary version of ls (both
static) would be a nice idea to be included in wu-ftpd package.

Greetings
Bernd
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Package: ftp.debian.org

The current version of pine is in non-free because the copyright
is not clear.  We really should talk to the maintainers - perhaps
we can get permission to distribute the package as part of the
distribution?  (FYI, it's in Red Hat, and those guys are quite
careful about copyrights, too...)

Even if we don't get permission (say, Red Hat paid them lots of
$$$ to get a license), I think we should still distribute an
older version (before the copyright change - I think it was 3.92)
in the regular distribution (just like we do with ghostscript).
Are there any problems with this?

Marek


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dwarf@polaris.net (Dale Scheetz)  wrote on 27.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960827144742.3556A-100000@dwarf.polaris.net>:

> No, I am concerned about programs that might use $EDITOR as the means to
> providing an editor. Pine, for instance, can be configured to call an
> editor under certain circumstances. If no editor is available (due to
> being removed) then, as we all know, pine will flash an error message for
> all of 1/20th of a second and then stare at you. Emacs also has conditions
> where it calls an outside editor, and I'm sure that there are others.
> Problems of this type, caused by the lack of an editor will appear to be
> bugs in other software. This is something to be avoided, in my estimation.

It seems there are several problems here:

1. Having an editor in the base system by default.

2. Keeping a system from becoming editorless.

3. Ensuring that packages needing an editor have one.


Now, (1) needs no special mechanism; just put ae into the base system and  
forget about it.

(2) is not really needed; an editor is not essential to package  
installation.

(3), on the other hand, would certainly benefit from an "editor" virtual  
package.


So, the important question boils down to "how important is (3)". What will  
it do for us to implement this?

As Dale said, it will keep some annoying problems from happening if  
someone deinstalls every editor.

Or will it?

Just what does, say, pine do, if we have all the editors installed, and  
$EDITOR is set to /this/doesnt/exist ?

Two possibilities:

a. It acts just like there is no editor. Oops, the virtual package doesn't  
help.

b. It falls back to a specific editor. Then we'd need that one, not any  
one, and again the virtual package doesn't help.

So, no joy here.

All we get is that, when all editors are removed, installing - say - pine  
will get us to install an editor.

Personally, I don't think that's worth it.


Of course, the update-alternatives thing with an "editor" program might do  
more for us, if we configure that as fallback. However, that is a lot more  
work.

My vote would be for dropping the idea (and the "essential" flag).

MfG Kai


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Please blame me for all of this, and not the archive maintainer,
but if you try to install gs-3.33 from the unstable tree,
(the GNU version of gs), you'll notice it depends on gsfonts-4.01.

Next you'll notice, gsfonts is in non-free and you cannot install it
(as you're a "pure-gnu").

Fortunately, the location of gsfonts is incorrect, and you can safely
download, sell, modify, whatever, gsfonts-4.01-2 from non-free,
as it's GPL!

I've already sent an email to Guy asking him to move gsfonts-4.01-2
from non-free to unstable/text.

Thanks for your attention
(and for the bug-reports those of you who didn't read this are going
to send),


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On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Marek Michalkiewicz wrote:

> Package: ftp.debian.org
> 
> The current version of pine is in non-free because the copyright
> is not clear.  We really should talk to the maintainers - perhaps
> we can get permission to distribute the package as part of the
> distribution?  (FYI, it's in Red Hat, and those guys are quite
> careful about copyrights, too...)

The copyright is quite clear. You can not distribute this package for a
fee without first getting permission from the pine developers. According
to our policy this requires it go into non-free.
We have "talked" with the developers about changing this. In the next
version they changed the wording but the intent remained the same. I will
be working on the new release (when I can find some time) and I will check
the copyright again to see if things have improved.

> 
> Even if we don't get permission (say, Red Hat paid them lots of
> $$$ to get a license), I think we should still distribute an
> older version (before the copyright change - I think it was 3.92)
> in the regular distribution (just like we do with ghostscript).
> Are there any problems with this?
> 
The older version has some substantial bugs that have been fixed in later
releases. It is my understanding that we do not distribute buggy software
when the fix is available. The ghostscript example is, I think, a
temporary solution while a new release is awaited.
Unless someone with more authority than myself agrees with you, I am
disinclined to re-release the old version. Barring further instructions
from that direction, I will close this bug report.

Luck,

Dwarf

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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:51:59 -0500 (CDT)
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This is why I really wish H.J. Lu would make pure, bug-fix only
releases for the current, stable libcs.  Yes, I know Debian isn't
using the latest, stable libc, but this paritcular bug isn't fixed in
the current beta version either.

Marek Michalkiewicz writes:
> I think there are two possible ways to fix it:
> (1) ignore the dangerous environment variables completely (is anyone
>     actually using them?  I heard about them for the first time from
>     the security alert...).  If anyone needs these features - create
>     a separate full-featured resolver library people can use (for
>     non-setuid programs only) by setting LD_PRELOAD.

Supposedly, the NSS support in libc 6 has a much better way of
handling things like this.

> (2) ignore them if (geteuid() != getuid() || getegid() != getgid()).
>     Problem: you can pass them to login via telnetd, so telnetd
>     needs to be fixed too.  Anyway, I think telnetd should do what
>     the one in NetKit-0.08 does: allow only a few (known to be safe)
>     environment variables, and don't allow the rest.  Right now, we
>     check for a few variables known to be dangerous - and we can't
>     be sure that there are no more.  The bash man page mentions
>     BASH_ENV in one place, and it's not checked by telnetd.

About the best I can do, without further guidance, is make libc not
echo the problem lines to stderr.  Is that acceptable?

David
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Dale Scheetz wrote:
> The copyright is quite clear. You can not distribute this package for a
> fee without first getting permission from the pine developers. According
> to our policy this requires it go into non-free.

Now I noticed that the copyright has changed, the new one (same in
version 3.94 and 3.95; the new Red Hat beta contains 3.95) looks
better to me.  It says:

| Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual
| agreement:
[...]
|  (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or
|      non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the
|      packaged distribution.

Isn't this good enough?  It sounds clear to me, but then I'm not
a lawyer...  If not - have you tried to ask them for individual
permission similar to that in the procmail package?  Here is it:

| The copyright statement below is addended for the Debian system:
|        This program may be sold as a component of the Debian Linux
|        distribution or a Linux distribution derived from the Debian
|        Linux distribution. If it is distributed in binary form, the
|        source code must be included in the distribution as well.
| End of addendum.

(procmail would be non-free without this - the original copyright
says that it may not be sold).

> The older version has some substantial bugs that have been fixed in later
> releases. It is my understanding that we do not distribute buggy software

I see.  The fix is available - but is non-free.  I can see that you
may not like to do the extra work of maintaining two versions of
the same package, but perhaps we can just say that the older version
is completely unsupported?  I hope someone still has a copy of the
old package, which could be put in contrib.  Buggy software might
sometimes be better than no software at all...

I rarely use pine myself (usually only when I have to read some
MIME-encrypted mail :-), but I know it's quite popular.  It would
be a pity if we can't ship a MIME-aware mailer with the standard
distribution.

Marek


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Package: ssh
Version: 1.2.14-1

The binaries in this package are not stripped, and they should
according to the packaging guidelines.

Marek


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Hi,

I'm searching for a new maintainer for the wu-ftpd package. You
should be able to program in perl (addftpuser is written in perl).


Thanks,

Peter

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You (Marek Michalkiewicz) wrote:
> Package: squid
> Version: 1.0.beta16-1
> 
> In the default configuration, squid runs as root.  While it can be
> changed in the config file, someone might forget to configure it
> after installation, so I think the default should be secure.  The
> permissions/ownerships in /var/squid and /var/log/squid should be
> changed accordingly.  I think squid should ideally run under its
> own allocated UID/GID.

Was fixed in 1.0.9 (uploaded to master a couple of days ago). 1.0.10 is
underway. It runs as proxy/proxy.

Mike.
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lukas@teorica0.ifisicacu.unam.mx (Lukas Nellen)  wrote on 27.08.96 in <199608272232.RAA15842@snork.ifisicacu.unam.mx>:

> > Dirk.Eddelbuettel@qed.econ.queensu.ca writes:
> > > I have argued before that a2ps and a2gs are effectively replaced by
> > > genscript, and that we should remove them. I think a similar case could
> > > be
>
> Please don't do that. Personally, I am used to a2ps and I'm a lot more
> attached to my habits than to genscript :-). And I don't see why we should
> retire a package just because some other package with similar functionality
> is provided. Think of the differ

Umm ... there's something wrong with your mailer, it seems. Looks like  
paragraphs longer that around 256 chars don't work.


Anyway, how about having a (public) directory especially for obsoleted  
packages?

That way, people could still use them, but they would be warned that there  
is no support, and they are on their own.

Currently, I believe this is distributed in non-obvious ways among  
contrib, experimental, and some private directories.

So, I'd propose a new directory, parallel to contrib and non-free. We  
could call it "dropped" or "orphaned" and include a README saying that  
these are packages that are no longer supported by the Debian project in  
any way, and are not recommended, but if you want them, here they are.



MfG Kai


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David Engel wrote:
> About the best I can do, without further guidance, is make libc not
> echo the problem lines to stderr.  Is that acceptable?

I'm not sure.  Someone could still read special files as root
(they would not see the contents, but merely reading them might
sometimes cause troubles too, if reading changes the state of
the device - as is the case with tapes, for example).

My suggestion (not tested, but it is rather simple) - replace
all occurrences of getenv() in the resolver with safe_getenv(),
implemented like this:

char *
safe_getenv(const char *name)
{
	if (geteuid() != getuid() || getegid() != getgid())
		return NULL;
	return getenv(name);
}

This assumes that telnetd will only pass known safe environment
variables to login, as suggested in another bug report against
netstd (I just got a response that the next netstd will be OK).
In the more paranoid version, safe_getenv() could simply always
return NULL.  Not all of the environment variables used by the
resolver might be dangerous - but I think it is better to err on
the safe side here...

Marek


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On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Marek Michalkiewicz wrote:

> The current version of pine is in non-free because the copyright
> is not clear.

The onus rests on the pine maintainer, not me, so I'm reassigning this
to pine.


Guy


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Package: trn
Version: 3.6-5

trn should provide the virutal package `news-reader'.
-- 
Shields, CrossLink.


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Michael Shields <shields@crosslink.net> writes:

> (Of course, I ca'n't offer code at the moment so my opinion carries little
> weight.)

That's not true.  It just means that it might take a bit longer for it
to happen if it's a good idea...

--
Rob


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> AFAIK it is along the line wit 
> 
> "site exec tar cvzf -rsh-command blafasel host:tar.tgz"

Probably something else - I don't believe Red Hat would have that
nice old _PATH_EXECPATH bug for so long :-).  It might be related
to the feature that wu-ftpd can send you a tar of a directory if
you do "get directory.tar".  Still I'm not sure how it could be
exploited though.  Elliot?

Marek


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> I agree with Brian that micro-bugs should probably be reported to the 
> maintainer, just because it takes more work to contact the reporter and 

As you point out later, this means the bug doesn't get tracked, and
thus quite possibly doesn't get fixed.  (I've had some time to clean
up my packages recently, including the ones I promised to maintain for
people but never actually posted... and the by-package web list serves
as a very good todo list...)

As for trivial bugs: if they're trivial, I can just as trivially close
them :-) Lots of reports of trivial bugs add up to a possibility of a
real problem elsewhere, as well...


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On 29 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:

> So, I'd propose a new directory, parallel to contrib and non-free. We  
> could call it "dropped" or "orphaned" and include a README saying that  
> these are packages that are no longer supported by the Debian project in  
> any way, and are not recommended, but if you want them, here they are.

contrib is an appropriate location for orphaned software.


Guy


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> I rarely use pine myself (usually only when I have to read some
> MIME-encrypted mail :-), but I know it's quite popular.  It would
> be a pity if we can't ship a MIME-aware mailer with the standard
> distribution.

How odd...

I seem to have a /usr/bin/exmh, and exmh isn't in my /usr/local/bin.  I 
consider exmh to be the most MIME-aware mailer I've had the pleasure to 
use.  If it isn't in my /usr/local/bin, ., ~/bin, or 
/usr/local/openwin.bin, but I'm using it on my system, then it must be 
part of the Debian distribution, or my system is really messed up...

Exmh is an optional package in the mail section.  According to dselect, 
it depends on tk41, tcl75, mh, and metamail.  Metamail is a general 
package to handle MIME types unknown to your mailer.  Most of the 
mailers out there (including pine) use metamail transparantly.  
However, exmh is very MIME-aware on its own.  It will automatically 
display enriched-text correctly, handle multipart MIME messages well 
(both multipart/mixed and multipart/alternative), and integrates well 
with PGP.

> 
> Marek
> 

-- 
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liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech
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>  Emacs also has conditions
> where it calls an outside editor...

Interesting.  I'm aware of cases where it will call outside *viewers*
(mostly mime/web stuff) but I can't think of what outside editors it
would call.  Could you perhaps expand on this point?
					_Mark_


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I've missed something here.  Why are we setting i486 instead of i386
for *anything*? I can see an advantage to having a dpkg command that
prints "i386-debian-linux-gnu" instead of having to cobble it together
(did you notice that most of the changes between 19.31 and 19.32 were
to get rid of "lignux" and quietly change it to linux-gnu?) I just
don't see where the 486 vs. 386 change comes from.

(I'll note that of course gcc's configuration is a special case, since
486 optimizations don't slow down 386 code noticeably.  But that's a
*special* case not a general one.)


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Format: 1.5
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:11:43 +0200
Source: metamail
Binary: metamail
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.7-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
Description: 
 metamail   - An implementation of MIME.
Changes: 
 metamail (2.7-8) unstable; urgency=LOW
 .
   * Corrected postinst
Files: 
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 822607a7d160d93aee614ee5edd0678b 16963 mail optional metamail_2.7-8.diff.gz
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Now that I finished this version, Bdale take over sudo.

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Version: 1.5-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
Description: 
 sudo       - Provides limited super user privileges to specific users.
Changes: 
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   * New upstream version
   * New maintainer
   * New packaging format
Files: 
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Just in case someone checks the md5sums in this announcement here's the correct
one:

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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:11:43 +0200
Source: metamail
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   * Corrected font name in postinst
   * Corrected rules file to not install /usr/doc/copyright/README
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If you get this message:

dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz' contains object with newline in its name (exmh-1.6.9.orig/?exmh-1.6.9.orig/exmh.README?exmh-1.6.9.orig/COPYRIGHT?exmh-1.6.9.orig/e...(rest of output deleted)

You should upgrade your cpio.  Unfortunately the (Debian-specific)
change that I'm relying on wasn't documented in any changelog file, so
I don't know which versions are OK, but I do know that 2.4.2-2 works.

If someone has a version of cpio between 2.3-2 (which I know doesn't
work) and 2.4.2-2 I'd be grateful if they'd do one of the following
two tests:
 * Try to unpack a source package with it using dpkg-source
or
 * Type `cpio -Hustar -0t <anything>.tar | cat -vet' and see whether
   the output from cpio is null-terminated or newline-terminated.

I'll be making some changes to dpkg-source and the dpkg control file.

Thanks,
Ian.


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Package: ltxmisc
Version: 1.0-1

In 1.1.7, Debian's TeX is unusable for somebody who wants to do serious
work with it, at least for me (I work in German).  Hardly any of the
often - used packages is there (this starts with a4.sty, which is
required by the documentation of german.sty, missing).

The best way would probably be to go through the LaTeX Companion and
install everything that's mentioned in there.
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On 30 Aug 1996, Mark Eichin wrote:

> >  Emacs also has conditions
> > where it calls an outside editor...
> 
> Interesting.  I'm aware of cases where it will call outside *viewers*
> (mostly mime/web stuff) but I can't think of what outside editors it
> would call.  Could you perhaps expand on this point?

I am a novice when it comes to emacs. My impression came from a bug report
on pine about pico leaving backup copies of email that are world readable.
It turned out that the emacs mail handler was calling pico with the
auto-backup enabled. This is what left me with that impression. (I was
sure that someone less ignorant than myself would surely correct me if I
was wrong)

Luck,

Dwarf

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Package: emacs
Version: 19.31-2

I have the following line in an HTML document:

    <b>deny_sender</b> in the <b>restrict.options</b> file and the email

However when font-lock mode is turned on, everything from deny_sender
to restrict.options is highlighted, whereas the right to do is
to only highlight the contents of the <b>...</b> pairs.

-- 
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  Thomas>  Package: ltxmisc 
  Thomas>  Version: 1.0-1
  Thomas> 
  Thomas> In 1.1.7, Debian's TeX is unusable for somebody who wants to do
  Thomas> serious work with it, at least for me (I work in German).  Hardly
  Thomas> any of the often - used packages is there (this starts with a4.sty,
  Thomas> which is required by the documentation of german.sty, missing).
  Thomas> 
  Thomas> The best way would probably be to go through the LaTeX Companion
  Thomas> and install everything that's mentioned in there.

That option was once discussed informally between Nils, Erick and myself. We
never did this because 
  
  - it would be overkill, there are too many style files mentioned in the 
    Companion, and some of them change or get replaced by the bi-annual 
    LaTeX release

  - if you were to start from Karl Berry's sources, you wouldn't get it
    either, what Debian delivers is a standard "base" TeX.

And Debian is after all an open system. Everybody could package, say,
latex-goodies. I just put these things into /usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex//

As for a4, I much prefer vmargin (which the LaTeX Companion has as vpage,
described on page 89).

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Package: smartlist
Status: install ok half-configured
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Maintainer: Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>
Version: 3.10-1
Depends: smail | sendmail | mail-transport-agent, procmail, libc5 (>= 5.2.18-1)
Description: Versatile and Fast List Processor

------  Clip here for transcript ------
Setting up smartlist (3.10-1) ...
hostname: illegal option -- q
Usage: hostname [-v] {hostname|-F file}      set host name (from file)
	domainname [-v] {nisdomain|-F file}   set NIS domain name (from file)
	hostname [-v] [-d|-f|-s|-a|-i|-y]     display formated name
	hostname [-v]                         display host name
	hostname -V|--version|-h|--help       print info and exit
    dnsdomainname=hostname -d, {yp,nis,}domainname=hostname -y
    -s, --short           short host name
    -a, --alias           alias names
    -i, --ip-address      addresses for the host name
    -f, --fqdn, --long    long host name (FQDN)
    -d, --domain          DNS domain name
    -y, --yp, --nis       NIS/YP domain name
    -F, --file            read host name or NIS domain name from given File
   This comand can get or set the host name or the NIS domain name. You can
   also get the DNS domain or the FQDN (fully qualified domain name).
   Unless you are using bind or NIS for host lookups you can change the
   FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Name) and the DNS domain name (which is
   part of the FQDN) in the /etc/hosts file.
/var/lib/dpkg/info/smartlist.postinst: newaliases: command not found
dpkg: error processing smartlist (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 smartlist
dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1.       


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Dont know what kind of "hostname" tool you got installed on your machine.
It works on my Debian 1.1 system.

On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Douglas Bates wrote:

bates>Package: smartlist
bates>Status: install ok half-configured
bates>Priority: optional
bates>Section: mail
bates>Maintainer: Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>
bates>Version: 3.10-1
bates>Depends: smail | sendmail | mail-transport-agent, procmail, libc5 (>= 5.2.18-1)
bates>Description: Versatile and Fast List Processor
bates>
bates>------  Clip here for transcript ------
bates>Setting up smartlist (3.10-1) ...
bates>hostname: illegal option -- q
bates>Usage: hostname [-v] {hostname|-F file}      set host name (from file)
bates>	domainname [-v] {nisdomain|-F file}   set NIS domain name (from file)
bates>	hostname [-v] [-d|-f|-s|-a|-i|-y]     display formated name
bates>	hostname [-v]                         display host name
bates>	hostname -V|--version|-h|--help       print info and exit
bates>    dnsdomainname=hostname -d, {yp,nis,}domainname=hostname -y
bates>    -s, --short           short host name
bates>    -a, --alias           alias names
bates>    -i, --ip-address      addresses for the host name
bates>    -f, --fqdn, --long    long host name (FQDN)
bates>    -d, --domain          DNS domain name
bates>    -y, --yp, --nis       NIS/YP domain name
bates>    -F, --file            read host name or NIS domain name from given File
bates>   This comand can get or set the host name or the NIS domain name. You can
bates>   also get the DNS domain or the FQDN (fully qualified domain name).
bates>   Unless you are using bind or NIS for host lookups you can change the
bates>   FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Name) and the DNS domain name (which is
bates>   part of the FQDN) in the /etc/hosts file.
bates>/var/lib/dpkg/info/smartlist.postinst: newaliases: command not found
bates>dpkg: error processing smartlist (--configure):
bates> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
bates>Errors were encountered while processing:
bates> smartlist
bates>dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1.       
bates>

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On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:

> If you get this message:
> 
> dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./exmh_1.6.9.orig.tar.gz' contains object with newline in its name (exmh-1.6.9.orig/?exmh-1.6.9.orig/exmh.README?exmh-1.6.9.orig/COPYRIGHT?exmh-1.6.9.orig/e...(rest of output deleted)
> 
> You should upgrade your cpio.  Unfortunately the (Debian-specific)
> change that I'm relying on wasn't documented in any changelog file, so
> I don't know which versions are OK, but I do know that 2.4.2-2 works.
> 
This resolved the problem for me. At least at this point I can unpack
hello ok. Shouldn't dpkg have a depends added for this? I have not
understood your reluctance to add depends for patch and diff as well. If
they really aren't dependencies, souldn't they be recommended or
suggested? If not there should, at least be some mention of their
usefulness in the description somewhere.

Thanks for the help,

Dwarf

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I just had someone with a problem with perl-tk and Debian 1.1.5.
Apparently we have perl 5.003 and perl-tk b11.02-2 together in some of
the directories.  perl-tk b11.02-2 is not compatible with perl 5.003,
so we need to move a copy of perl-tk b11.02-3 into these dirs.

Who do I ask about making this happen?

Thanks
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.9

sfere:~$ dpkg-source -b procmeter-2.0 procmeter-2.0.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: warning: .orig.tar.gz name procmeter-2.0.orig.tar.gz is not <package>-<upstreamversion>.orig.tar.gz (wanted procmeter_2.0.orig.tar.gz)

This should read `... is not <package>_<upstreamversion>.orig.tar.gz
...'

(S)


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'Lars Wirzenius wrote:'
>
>Spam does make furious, extra Cc's from mailing lists don't. They
>just annoy me (see signature), and in theory they do cost me a bit.
>Not enough to make me worry about it, but enough to write kilobyte after
>kilobyte about it.
>
>I do wish that people wouldn't Cc me when I read the mailing list. I feel
>that it is good netiquette not to do that.

I like the CCs because lately I haven't been able to keep up with the
list and knowing that someone responded to something (which shows up
in my mailbox and not the procmail filter) is useful.

>This may be a mark that we or I don't think there is enough real problems
>with Debian. Hm, perhaps the three month release schedule is one: we have
>one month left for the next release, and we're just about to make a big
>change in source packaging? Perhaps it would be better to wait an extra
>month for this occasion only?

I don't think we have a good mechanism for "code cleanups" before a
major release.  Instead, I think that sticking with "stable" releases
from upstream is the way to keep Debian stable.  I like the three month
schedule, but feel it is mostly independent of maintainer issues.
Though perhaps we should save the source package changes for the
release after next month's?

-- 
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dwarf@polaris.net (Dale Scheetz)  wrote on 30.08.96 in <Pine.LNX.3.94.960830095652.2399D-100000@dwarf.polaris.net>:

> On 29 Aug 1996, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > lukas@teorica0.ifisicacu.unam.mx (Lukas Nellen)  wrote on 27.08.96 in
> > <199608272232.RAA15842@snork.ifisicacu.unam.mx>:
> >
> > > Please don't do that. Personally, I am used to a2ps and I'm a lot more
> > > attached to my habits than to genscript :-). And I don't see why we
> > > should retire a package just because some other package with similar
> > > functionality is provided. Think of the differ
> >
> > Umm ... there's something wrong with your mailer, it seems. Looks like
> > paragraphs longer that around 256 chars don't work.
> >
> Well, actually it's probably a problem with your mail system. I got the
> whole paragraph without truncation.

I've investigated further, and it's both.

He seems to have sent his paragraph as a single, very long line, which is  
definitely wrong. And some program here truncated that long line, which is  
also wrong.

I'll be working on my end of the problem.

MfG Kai


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> Where's th problem? You can install it as priority 1  (and thus moving

The problem is that the interface is *far* from intuitve.  It needs at
least a sentence or two up top explaining what it's asking about (it
wasn't clear to me until after I'd seen a third viewer show up...)

Remember, many people installing the mime stuff really have *no idea*
what ranking is appropriate (I didn't even know that ranking was
*possible* until I started getting these messages :-) Perhaps it
should just do something by default  (last highest?) and then provide
some tool for configuring them later?


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The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a
message to done@bugs.debian.org or or `forwarded' by a
message to forwarded@bugs.debian.org.

OVER 17 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   660 gdb        GDB gets address of structure  David Engel <david@ods.com>
   725 xbase      twm places windows incorrectly Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   740 xbase      xclock leaves `droppings' in i Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   773 xbase      xmh falls over if mh is not in Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
   775 xbase      twm reports errors on incorrec Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o

OVER 16 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   818 bash       bash builtin `echo' doesn't ch Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
   820 tcsh       tcsh builtin `echo' doesn't ch Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
   821 shellutils /bin/echo doesn't check write  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
   825 trn        trn warning messages corrupt t jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
   836 termcap-co Possible bugs in termcap syste Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.

OVER 15 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   887 xarchie    xarchie barfs when ftp closes  Christian Linhart <chris@debian
   889 info       Info 3.1-6                     Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
   902 lpr        lpr can't print a PostScript f Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
   911 libc4      libc causes rsh to fail on com (unknown -- `libc')
   957 dpkg       dpkg should automatically log  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam

OVER 14 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
   988 bsdutils   `script' is insecure, and gene Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
   998 boot-flopp Can't Configure DOS Partitions Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1009 bash       bash problem with quoting/comp Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1016 procps     top has 3's in vt100           Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1032 boot-flopp Linux Counter Project Info Not Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1037 dpkg       dselect user interface (was Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1045 termcap-co tgetflag("hc") segfaults (fwd) Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1061 lpr        /etc/printcap vs. /usr/man/man Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde

OVER 13 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1099 perl       perl bug                       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1108 binutils   No manpage ar(5)               David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1112 gsfonts    a2gs output unusable by gs but joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  1118 fortune    fortune is setuid games ?!     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1130 libc4      Stdlib.h problems when using g (unknown -- `libc')
  1164 shellutils who --help uses /etc/{w,u}tmp  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1170 perl       perl fails to make headers fir Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1176 procps     /usr/bin/top segfault with unk Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1201 perl       perl doesn't know about includ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>

OVER 12 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1211 libc4      libc __nis_getgrnam() segfault (unknown -- `libc')
  1239 findutils  /etc/cron.daily/find: updatedb Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  1240 procps     ps(1) man page incomplete      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1246 procps     ps man page does not agree wit Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1247 perl       perl <...> globbing only works Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1265 uucp       Misc. uucp bugs                dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1275 xarchie    xarchie clumsy with 2-button m Christian Linhart <chris@debian
  1278 libc4      dpkg seg faults with NIS       (unknown -- `libc')
  1279 libc4      Strangeness involving <bsd/sig (unknown -- `libc')
  1281 bin86      bin86                          (unknown -- `bin')
  1292 xserver-sv X locks up                     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1303 binutils   `man 1 nm` slightly incomplete David Engel <david@ods.com>
  1314 ncurses3.0 ncurses fails in silly way on  (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 11 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1336 procps     CFLAGS shouldn't be used when  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1366 acm        acm networking problems        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  1372 boot-flopp rootdisk: no dvorak keytable   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  1378 libc4      weird ELF/a.out difference     (unknown -- `libc')
  1381 workbone   workbone postinst fails        dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1399 dpkg       dselect error handling not con Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1406 dbackup    backup postrm can fail when it dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  1411 perl       perlconfig misses an opportuni Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1429 bibtex, kp several TeX packages Provide t Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1451 ghostview  `ghostviewR6' conflict with gh Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1467 ax25-kerne `ax25-kernel-source', `ax25-ut (unknown -- `ax')
  1480 dpkg       start-stop-daemon doesn't chec Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1481 smail      smail paniclog suggestion      Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1488 dld        dld control file dsccription p gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  1502 ltxtool lt Uniform lists in debian.contro Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1526 dpkg       man dpkg(5) dpkg(8) dselect    Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1532 repair     no revision number with repair Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1533 procps     `w' produces bogus login@, idl Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1549 bash       bash should not have world-rea Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>

OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1555 dpkg       dselect per-screen-half focus  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1560 shellutils `su' produces incomplete log e daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1616 shellutils 'who' can't find utmp          daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  1621 xbase      Xmark has no manpage           Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1624 bash       thermal run away problem       Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1642 dpkg       dpkg recursive package listing Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1647 texbin     dpkg can present incorrect inf Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1653 texbin     Missing dvicopy(1) man page.   Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1663 texbin     TeX comes without configuratio Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1664 texbin     TeX is lacking documentation o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1670 dpkg       start-stop-daemon is too slow  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1672 ftp.debian non-free packages              Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1681 cron       Missing files                  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  1685 libc4      dpkg-split --msdos not correct (unknown -- `libc')
  1686 mfbin      psfonts.map can't be found     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1690 xbase      XDM protection fault on X conf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1691 xbase      X config allows invalid numeri Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1693 smail      forwarded message from Harald  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1699 base       Install/Config quirks: Missing Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1702 bash       telnet+su root->thermal proces Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1703 xtron      xtron documentation            Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  1707 kernel     image 1.2.13-5 has no msdos.o  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1708 adduser? m `passwd' not interruptible whe Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1711 adduser    adduser replaces NIS entries i Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  1713 procps     procps: manpage doesn't tell t Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1714 bash       bash is confused when breaking Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1742 base       /dev/tty has wrong permissions Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1744 kernel     dpkg: cannot scan updates dire Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1746 bash       rsh <system> sh -i produces CP Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1747 nas        nas: no manpages for au availa Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  1759 kernel     running out of swap causes dea Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1771 ltxtool    Legal problems with ltxtool    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1774 libc4      <paths.h>: _PATH_DEFPATH conta (unknown -- `libc')
  1791 dosemu     dosemu troubles                Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  1796 xserver-s3 missing call to ntohs in X ser (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  1797 dpkg       upgrade/downgrade dependency c Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1799 smail      smail nameresloving problems   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor

OVER 9 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1803 termcap-co /etc/termcap linux definition  Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  1818 dpkg       configure ordering based on Re Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1819 xbase      X11 doesn't set a lock on the  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1823 texbin     texbin postinst failed with er Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1834 bash       [kubla@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de: Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  1845 trn        dead.letter and dead.article a jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  1853 procps     top fails after 130 processes? Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1855 base       packages adding entries to /et Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1856 perl       creating perl header files     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1858 kpathsea   kpathsea package does not inst Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1865 kpathsea   cmr10 at 10.0pt not loadable:  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1873 dvipsk     dvipsk ignores /etc/papersize! Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  1874 a2ps       a2ps ignores /etc/papersize!   (unknown -- `a')
  1879 emacs      Emacs shell mode weirdness - l Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  1881 majordomo  Majordomo UID wrong?           Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  1885 base       base 0.93.6-13: doesn't create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1901 kbd        `compose' keytable command not Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  1908 procps     Top and tabs                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1914 kernel     general protection in unix_pro Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1916 perl       perl: wrong entries in Config. Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1921 dpkg       update-alternatives prompt, dp Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  1922 kernel     1.3.43 Kernel is too nice      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1929 smail      aliasinclude and forwardinclud Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  1933 procps     w from procps gives wrong idle Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  1934 mfbin      font scaling problem           Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n

OVER 8 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  1954 base       setting up the network         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1955 base       base discs still aren't creati Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  1962 kernel     kernel needs sbpcd.h editing i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1972 perl       perl should suggest kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  1973 workbone   workbone postinst needs reword dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1981 xcontrib   xman fails to format ascii(7)  Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  1984 workbone   dpkg won't install cdtool      dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  1985 xbase      xdm won't redirect to remote m Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  1989 kernel     mmap bug?                      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  1997 ncurses3.0 ncurses linux terminal definit (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2001 base       Incorrect ownership of audio d Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2009 mailx      mailx ignores ^C at Subject pr Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2010 mailx      mailx misses VM-generated From Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2011 libc4      very silly messages from rsh   (unknown -- `libc')
  2022 general    utmp corruption                debian-devel@pixar.com
  2023 texbin     latex dumps core on -QUIT      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2027 kpathsea   tiny bug in web2c debian.rules Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2037 bibtex     bibtex not searching $TEXINPUT Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2038 texbin     tex man page has unexpanded ma Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2039 xserver-ma X server font erosion          (unknown -- `xserver-mach')
  2051 xntp       /etc/ntp.conf is an auto-handl Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2054 latex,xdvi no subject (file transmission) Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2063 kernel     scsi driver sequence unreasona Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2064 kernel     aha1740 driver only supports o Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2067 lynx       lynx -source can't find docume Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2068 shellutils su doesn't su.                 daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2070 base       /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2076 ncurses-bi reset(1)                       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2085 ncurses3.0 /usr/lib/termcap/l/linux kbs C (unknown -- `ncurses')

OVER 7 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2099 ax25-util  slip module stops axattach     (unknown -- `ax')
  2104 dvipsk     dvips doesn't provide color    Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2105 kernel     console error messages "Source Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2110 bash       Bash tab completion of non alp Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2112 inn        Submission for INN doc file    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2122 xdvik      xdvik doesn't handle the `zcat Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2158 ncurses-te new ncurses bug ?              Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2159 procps     "ps pids" lists more than just Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2161 binutils   elf-binutils 2.5.2l.20-1 ld ca David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2167 timezone   timezone zdump for US zones gi Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2169 timezone   timezone zdump utility should  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2170 timezone   timezone: it needs more docume Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2171 timezone   timezone: how to determine zon Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2177 strace     "strace -ff -o file dpkg --ins Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  2182 perl       perl shouldn't touch /usr/loca Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2183 emacs      emacs shouldn't touch /usr/loc Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2184 perl       perl's sys/socket.ph causes wa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2185 mflib      texmf/metafont or texmf/mf ?   Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2186 texlib     national hyphenation patterns  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2196 ytalk      ytalk `shell' option can't run Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2197 hdparm     hdparm -c switch               Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  2198 uucp       uuxqt can't execute rmail      dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2200 ghostview  Description                    Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2205 most       Description                    Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  2206 rsynth     Description                    Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  2209 dld        Description                    gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2211 auto-pgp   Description                    Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  2220 inn        INN feed password interacts ba Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2231 mathpad    mathpad problems               Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2233 groff      groff-1.09-4                   Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2235 emacs      emacs eats manual pages        Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2241 perl       Perl 5.002-3 handles LANG and  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2242 mc (Midnig mc should depend on ncurses3.0 Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2243 xbase      xterm vanishes when it's big ( Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2251 perl       Perl coredumps while invoking  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2254 perl       perl doesn't initialize variab Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2265 bash       bash `horizontal scroll' can't Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2267 emacs      emacs ange ftp fails           Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2275 timezone   ctime(3) should be replaced by Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su

OVER 6 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2284 mailx      mailx ^C at Cc: prompt sends m Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2291 ncurses3.0 missing terminfo capabilities  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2292 shellutils date does not support dates pa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2293 uucp       uucp should compress big files dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2295 lynx       (no subject)                   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2296 bugs.debia debian-bugs WWW doesn't say ho Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2297 xbase      xterm gets mouse-paste and RET Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2298 trn        trn bug with shell escaping    jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  2301 bash       bash doesn't document any way  Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2302 rcs        RCS - problems with msdos file Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2304 mount      umount calls gethostbyname() a Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2309 adduser    Multiple root accounts         Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  2311 svgalib1-b svgalib has undocumented setui (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2313 xbase      xterm keymapping problems susp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2318 emacs      Emacs makes it hard for MTAs t Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2321 libc5 (and libc doesn't use **h_aliases ( (unknown -- `libc')
  2334 mh         MH scan -width dumps core      Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2345 shellutils Inclusion of shadow breaks up  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2346 mh         MH can lose mail               Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2348 smail      Smail fails to define NO_PETER Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2356 mailx      mailx -- problems with TMPDIR  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2357 dvipsk     dvipsk generated PS causes `re Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2360 xbase      xdm cannot find a free VT      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  2362 bash       bash (readline) dumps core on  Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2365 pine       Pine erases message before I c Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2367 pine       Pine supplies PATH line when p Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  2379 svgalib1   svgalib postinst broken        (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2387 libc5-dev  gethostbyaddr(3) ill documente (unknown -- `libc')
  2392 emacs      Emacs mishandles fonts under X Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2402 procps     ps no longer understands `g' o Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2405 perl       perl postinst messages re unct Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2417 emacs      emacs inferior process buffers Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2423 smail      scattered sendmail links       Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  2425 ispell     ispell thinks `formated' is co Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  2427 procps     top d 60 fails                 Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2430 kermit     kermit configuration script is (unknown -- `kermit')
  2431 emacs      Emacs mishandles X fonts.      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2439 sysvinit   rc?.d scripts sometimes not ru Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2440 perl       sys/socket.ph produces spuriou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2450 cdtool     `cdir' prints out huge chunks  dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  2455 svgalib1   can't install svgalib1-1.28-5  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  2460 procps     bizarre output from `free'     Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2463 kernel     "msdos" filesystem needed for  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec

OVER 5 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2470 kernel     in kernel Attached ether adapt Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2474 ncurses-bi /usr/bin/reset does the wrong  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2475 at         `at' uses middle-endian 2-digi Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2476 emacs      emacs mucks up my email addres Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2477 emacs      annoying bug in emacs          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2478 emacs      ange ftpd croaks on anonftpd   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2479 emacs      ange-ftp is incredibly ineffic Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2481 general    /sbin/ldconfig in scripts      debian-devel@pixar.com
  2483 libdb1     libdb1 uses not-yet-completely (unknown -- `libdb')
  2484 libgdbm1   libgdbm1 conflicts with some v (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  2486 xwpe       Ghost packages                 dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  2493 gcc        GCC -O3 produces unsatisfied e David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2495 perl       perl requires tcsh (as it is c Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2501 perl       (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2502 perl       configure fails if /vmlinuz is Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2503 elv-ctags  elvis and emacs both provide c mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill
  2504 libdb1     remove -m486 from Makefile     (unknown -- `libdb')
  2510 rxvt       rxvt-2.14 breaks old scripts   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2520 procps     procps needs dependency on ncu Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2524 base       problems with base package     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2530 bind       bind locks up system           Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2531 dpkg       install-info should use better Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2532 emacs      Emacs fails to use `set -e' in Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2536 dpkg       dpkg inappropriately marks pac Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2538 base       audio devices have different g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2542 netatalk   No default config files?       Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2547 tf         tf does not support visual mod Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2556 lpr        "\031\1"                       Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2557 elm        add to elm manpage             Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2562 elm        elm manpage paths incorrect    Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2569 boot-flopp bootdisk: Leading dot in dnsdo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2573 libc5-dev  sysinfo system call not in lib (unknown -- `libc')
  2575 ytalk      ytalk lies about who you are t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2576 dpkg       base: selecting [A]ccess with  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2589 perl       perl can't load libdb.so.1     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2590 perl       new revision of perl does not  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2591 dialog     rootdisk                       Leland Lucius <llucius@millcomm
  2592 elvisnox   Elvis Compilation Peoblem      sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  2593 perl       perl tries to install in /usr/ Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2603 dpkg       dpkg-1.1.3 seg fault when inst Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2604 ash        ash: cc: Internal compiler err Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2610 libg++27   support for m68k-linux         (unknown -- `libg++')
  2621 texbin     unstable/texbin install fails  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2630 emacs      emacs package needs to break c Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2634 emacs      emacs hung                     Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.

OVER 4 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2648 mh                                        Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2650 win32binut win32binutils has /usr/bin/fle (unknown -- `win')
  2658 perl       Errors during perlconfig       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2661 mh         dist and mh both have a dist m Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2664 dpkg       arrow keys fail in dselect not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2671 timezone   timezone Mexico/General doesn' Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2682 timezone   Zoneinfo library has a name-cl Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2688 base       base: wrong group for rft* dev Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2689 xemacs     (no subject)                   Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2690 netatalk   netatalk: a few small problems Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  2691 perl       new perl break suid scripts    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2692 kernel     kernel swap space problem      Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2699 ytalk      ytalk doesn't use FQDNs        Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2701 seyon      seyon: dpkg --purge doesn't wo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  2709 emacs      emacs should list /usr/lib/ema Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2710 xterm-colo colour xterm has problems when Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  2714 emacs      Emacs and XEmacs share files   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2717 general    conffiles in /usr              debian-devel@pixar.com
  2721 procps     free fails to understand recen Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2728 procps     top coredump                   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2731 emacs      emacs with gud creates ~/.term Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2733 mailx      /usr/bin/mail leaves lock file Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2737 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv: missing source  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2738 boot-flopp Installing Debian 1.1          Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2739 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2740 boot-flopp Configuring Network with Debia Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2741 base       First booting with Debian 1.1  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2758 dld        dld: missing source file       gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  2762 ax25-kerne ax25-kernel-source: missing so (unknown -- `ax')
  2764 texpsfnt   texpsfnt: missing source file  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2765 ax25-util  ax25-util: missing source file (unknown -- `ax')
  2774 syslinux   syslinux: missing source file  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2785 timezone   Timezone has static library?   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2789 elm        elm doesn't show rest of pgp-s Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2796 sysvinit   sysvinit makes obsolete symbol Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2802 apache     apache tweaks                  Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2803 xdvik      xdvi does not handle redraws o Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2806 ncurses3.0 ncurses man pages internal inc (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2810 uucp       uucp postrm should use -f flag dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  2812 apache     Apache server: SECURITY HOLE   Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2818 bash       bash doesn't provide enough do Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2819 bind       named loses (in an easily fixe Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  2822 inn        Some minor glitches with the i Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2823 mc         mc segfaults on reconnect of f Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2825 nvi        restricted movement in nvi     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  2828 dpkg       have to install xosview twice  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2829 emacs      emacs: gdb says: slashes aren' Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  2834 dpkg       desect loses state if it can't Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2839 xemacs     Xemacs problems                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  2840 base       Conflicting entries in login/g Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2841 procps     top produces `$<3>' at end of  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2850 boot-flopp nfs.o isn't loaded in clean de Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  2852 g77        Bug 2711: g77 does not include (unknown -- `g')
  2856 bash       fd leak in bash                Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  2861 manpages   glob(3) references glob(7); th Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  2863 ncurses-ba dselect and ncurses in select  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  2870 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp-1.4.1 bug             awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2874 gpm        gpm will not work if the syste Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  2876 svgalib1   svgalib will not work in a set (unknown -- `svgalib')

OVER 3 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  2884 tkman      tkman doesn't use /var/catman  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2889 base       no NCR 53c810 driver in 1.1 bo Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2891 taper      taper documentation is missing Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  2892 setserial  setserial marked as Essential  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  2894 dpkg       dpkg guidelines info files not Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2895 base       base -- incorrect passwd entry Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2896 libdb1     postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libdb')
  2899 libreadlin postinst has bad permissions 6 (unknown -- `libreadline')
  2904 dpkg       install-info doesn't cope with Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2906 glibcdoc   Inconsistency in libc.info re  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  2908 sysvinit   mesg sets wrong permissions on Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  2909 gcc        GCC Info has funny formatting  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2910 gcc        GCC accepts multi-line strings David Engel <david@ods.com>
  2911 dpkg       Conffiles are deleted too late Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2913 ipx        ipx bootup scripts are broken  mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  2919 fort77     very bad fort77 installation m (unknown -- `fort')
  2920 base       incorrect entry for nobody in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2927 base       /usr/info/dir in base confuses Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2928 base       nobody has wrong login shell   Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2929 dpkg       dpkg-name 1.1.6 is broken.     Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2933 dpkg-ftp   dpkg-ftp needs perl 5.002      awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  2934 apache     Some cgi scripts don't work    Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  2937 bootdisk   Copyright message function key Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2938 procps     libproc is in wrong place      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  2939 dpkg       Bad dpkg/ldconfig Interaction  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2940 kernel     image-1.3.64-0 lacks scsi tape Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  2942 timezone?, Wrong timezone for Europe/Wars Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  2945 rootdisk   Bus Error given by rootdisk    Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  2946 lynx       Lynx gives fatal error message Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2956 bootdisk   beta experience                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2959 shellutils date +%Z bug                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  2962 ncurses3.0 dselect arrow keys don't work  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  2964 lynx       lynx -dump fails through proxy Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2965 lynx       lynxexec not compiled into lyn Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2966 bugs.debia bugs2ftp is broken             Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  2969 man        zsoelim [in man] is confused b Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  2970 groff      soelim [in groff] is confused  Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  2971 mailx      mailx doesn't quit on two succ Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  2972 mfbin      MetaFONT linked against X libr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  2973 dpkg       install-info created 5 Develop Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  2978 base       May 13 15:51:25 lohi wu-ftpd[3 Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  2982 xntp       xntp calls ntpdate at start    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2989 rxvt       rxvt source bug                Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  2991 elm        nfrm is not installed...       Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  2998 bugs.debia bugs2ftp still flaky           Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.ch
  3002 base       majordomo has conflicting grou Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3019 kernel     no 386 support in kernel_image Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3026 xbase      xbase et al postinst doesn't f Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3027 base       updatedb can't run properly    Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3031 boot-flopp various boot-floppies nits     Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3036 base       automatic adduser/addgroup in  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3038 lpr        SOLVED: can't remove print job Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3039 base       MAKEDEV script does not create Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3040 kernel     Sound module in 1.3.95 kernel  Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3042 elm        Elm produces bogus Content-Typ Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3046 smail      Smail configuration problem?   Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3047 cron       cron script problem?           Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3050 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser man page installed  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3052 guile      guile is missing slib.info.gz  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3053 gnats      gnats: typo in postinst omits  bcwhite@pobox.com (Brian C. Whi
  3056 ash        ash-source contains objects    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3064 boot-flopp need a pointer in /usr/doc/boo Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3066 general    a.out binaries in various pack debian-devel@pixar.com
  3067 xaw3d      broken libXaw3d                (unknown -- `xaw')
  3070 base       base copyright string          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3073 xbase      xbase contains imake and xmkmf Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3075 lpr, magic lpr, magicfilter, dvi-fonts fa Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3077 mfbin      gray font .mf files missing fr Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3080 procps     error message in syslog caused Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3084 timezone   missing timezones              Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3087 shellutils Bug in date.                   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3093 perl       Perl dumps core                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3095 xbase      xbase kills xdm and *then* ask Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3096 lxtools    lxtools: user error (misuse of Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3098 man        man-2.3.10-11 segfaults        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3102 procps     top has problems when not on c Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3105 lynx       lynx access to dot files is di Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3106 kernel     v 1.1 beta kernel image not fo Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3107 nas        nas postinst could use a warni Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3109 man        man 9menu unpleasant           Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3110 xbase?     X servers muck up xdm when uni Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3112 uucp       UUCP uses /usr/spool/uucp (and dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3113 ncurses3.0 dselect provokes ncurses probl (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3115 taper      taper recommends ftape         Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3119 emacs      emacs font handling            Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3121 boot-flopp boot-floppies doesn't have bas Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3122 debianutil run-parts should ignore RCS    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3124 cern-httpd CERN httpd sends useless cron  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3125 dpkg       bug (and correction) in dpkg-1 Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3128 mc         mc-3.2.1-1 needs libgpm.so.1   Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3130 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3135 psnfss     psnfss has no Architecture fie Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3140 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/boot has rm -f bug Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3142 rootdisk   1.1 installation and large par Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3143 sysvinit   sysvinit init.d/network script Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3146 base, ae   1.1 installation: ae doesn't w Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3147 rootdisk   May 19 boot floppies...        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3149 base       upgrading base truncates utmp  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3151 sendmail   Sendmail runs too late         Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3153 inn        inn ctlinnd not readable/execu Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3155 spice      spice still on my system       (unknown -- `spice')
  3156 lpr        lpr and smail uuname returned  Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3158 most       most differs from man page     Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3161 general    Newbie 1.1beta installation.   debian-devel@pixar.com
  3162 xbase      disconnects between ncurses-ba Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3163 ncurses-ba disconnects between ncurses-ba Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3164 smail      runq dumps core                Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3165 manpages   fcntl(2) references nonexisten Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  3169 genscript  dvipsk doesn't use /etc/papers Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3170 dpkg       again dpkg --root=xxx          Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3174 bash       set -i doesn't work in bash    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3176 mandelspaw mandelspawn slave problems     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3177 bash       sh -nc <command> actually runs Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3179 emacs      emacs ctags segfaults          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.

Over two months old - attention is required:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3180 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml semantics and fo Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3183 base       permissions problems with /var Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3185 bootdisk   Lack of NCR53c810 support on b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3186 xfractint  Can't chdir                    Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3190 libc5      rlogin takes far too long when (unknown -- `libc')
  3191 ncurses-bi reset(1) doesn't bring an xter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3192 ncurses-bi tset(1) man page problem       Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3195 kernel     "/etc/rc.boot/0setserial" fail Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3196 ispell     ispell symlinks broken         Kenneth MacDonald <K.MacDonald@
  3197 procmail   wrong uid/gid in /usr/doc/proc Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3198 dviljk     dviljk is still aout! :-(      Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3199 lists.debi Bizarre message from debian-de Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3202 dviljk     dviljk doesn't read stdin!!! : Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3206 rc         rc terminates on CTRL-C        Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3207 ncurses3.0 strange screen update choices  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3208 amd        amd bug                        Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3212 perl       Perl recommends nonexistent pa Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3213 fortune    fortune need libc.so.4         dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3216 auto-pgp   auto-pgp doesn't remove info e Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3218 dpkg       install-info adds Miscellaneou Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3220 man        apropos dumps core             Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3223 guile      guile installs entry for slib, Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3224 apsfilter  apsfilter doesn't configure on Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3225 dpkg       dpkg-1.2.3 upgrade problems fr Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3227 login      login refuses, and then allows Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3230 perl       why the hell does perl depend  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3231 base       /usr/i486-linuxaout/lib not pr Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3233 dpkg       dselect for 1.1 as of June, 2n Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3240 libdb1     [libdb]: obsolete bugfix       (unknown -- `libdb')
  3241 emacs      derived.el fails in emacs      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3242 perl       perl's dependencies are wrong  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3244 libc5      (no subject)                   (unknown -- `libc')
  3245 mc         mc should depend on gpm        Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3246 xcompat    Cant load library libXt.so.6   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3247 lilo       Lilo unpack removes boot.b     Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3250 cfingerd   cfingerd descriptive text      Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3252 base       base template /usr/info/dir ma Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3253 pine       Pine over-encodes files (came  Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  3258 kernel     pcmcia-cs minor postinst bug   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3260 procps     psupdate man page out of date  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3265 kernel     kernel-image and PS/2 mouse pr Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3267 xbase      Unqualified hostnames in rstar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3268 kernel     network modules don't work wit Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3269 bootdisk   bootdisk silently fails-change Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3272 rootdisk   bug in root disks...           Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3275 kernel     dpkg --no-act leaves control i Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3277 perl       nit: perl setup emits a \n     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3279 bootdisk/r ne2000 lockups during instalat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3280 gpm        (no subject)                   Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3283 perl       /usr/bin/perlconfig should be  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3284 giftrans   giftrans is free               Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3287 maelstrom  (no subject)                   Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3292 xcal       xcal app-defaults shouldn't be Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3295 perl       perls debian.rules doesn't wor Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3296 perl       /bin/perl is not updated       Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3300 xserver-sv xserver-svga configuration     Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3304 rman       [rman] Off-by-one in generated Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3307 ddd-smotif ddd-smotif does not replace dd Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3308 xmanpages  X(1) manpage in wrong place?   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3312 mathpad    installation and startup probl Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3314 base       On request of Bruce: /etc/rc.b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3315 base       Bug in /etc/init.d/networks on Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3317 linuxdoc-s linuxdoc-sgml info files are m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3319 deliver    deliver does not set exit code Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3320 bootdisk   Kernel oops - problem with APM Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3321 libgdbm1   libgdbm.so version number...   (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3323 mflib      MakeTeXPK mis-invokes ps2pk    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3327 cern-httpd cern-httpd postinst hangs if d Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3328 gawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3335 libdb1     Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libdb')
  3336 less       Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3342 libgdbm1   Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libgdbm')
  3345 libreadlin Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `libreadline')
  3348 patch      Problems encountered while com Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3349 procmail   Problems encountered while com Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3350 procps     Problems encountered while com Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3353 bash       Problems encountered while com Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3359 shellutils Problems encountered while com daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3361 byacc      Problems encountered while com dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3362 mingetty   Problems encountered while com Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  3363 timezone   Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3366 smail      Problems encountered while com Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3370 cern-httpd httpdconfig installs Welcome.h Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3372 mgetty     mgetty+sendfax missing new_fax Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3373 gpm        gpm -k hangs if X server runni Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3374 cvs        CVS wrappers can't be turned o Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3382 workbone   workbone disappears during upg dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3384 apache     apache leaves /var/log/httpd n Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3385 xosview    xosview and /usr/bin/X11 (agai joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3386 lynx       lynx version number changes    Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3387 base       base leaves /tmp/base.postinst Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3393 kernel     printer-driver problem in kern Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3395 xbase      can't login via xdm            Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3396 tcsh       tcsh doesn't provide c-shell   Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3397 kernel     (no subject)                   Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3400 emacs      gnus broken? in Debian-emacs-1 Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3406 dpkg       dselect unreadable under xterm Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3407 fvwm2      fvwm2: WindowList infelicity   Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3408 passwd     Various bugs in passwd manpage Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3409 base       Could not make boot floppy     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3410 dpkg       some problems/bugs/suggestions Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3413 pcb        linked with aout libXaw        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3415 latex      Xdvi and postscript fonts      Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3420 rootdisk   Boot disk creats corrupted fil Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3421 base       /tmp installs wrongly          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3422 ncurses3.0 termcap entry too long error   (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3423 perl       Problems installing kernel sou Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3431 www.debian some packages have no informat Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3433 cfingerd   weird output if cfingerd.conf: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3434 perl       pod2latex: E<szlig>, =over/=cu Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3437 fvwm       fvwm should not recommend fvwm Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3439 login      Login reconfigures serial port Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3442 python     python postinst is very verbos Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3451 rootdisk   Missing label 'llseek' in e2fs Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3454 ucbmpeg    ucbmpeg control file problems  Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3456 a2gs       a2gs prompt looks like `please (unknown -- `a')
  3458 dviljk     dviljk missing prompt for inpu Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3459 inn        inn should Depend on inewsinn, Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3462 inn        INN postinst and configuration Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3466 tcsh, csh  tcsh, csh should use update-al Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3467 cern-httpd cern-httpd curious message     Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3468 textfm, te textfm and texlib file conflic Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3469 lynx       lynx default home page         Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3470 apache     apache problems                Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3476 cnews      cnews description is gibberish Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3477 cnews, ine cnews and inews should be same Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3478 bind       bind should use lowercase `non Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3480 mkisofs    missing information in manpage Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3483 enscript   using args with spaces in gens Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  3486 cern-httpd forwarded message from Cron Da Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3488 rootdisk   basedisks modconf problems     Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3489 rootdisk   basedisks configuration proble Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3490 adduser    adduser password-setting probl Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3491 rootdisk   basedisks newly booted system  Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3493 base       Teles ISDN card installation b Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3495 npasswd_bo doesn't respect nis/yp         Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>

Over one month old:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3497 smail      smail calls obsolete yp_order  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  3503 uucp       still a.out (and src doesn't b dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3505 bind       ndc does not use start-stop-da Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3507 bind       named postinst mangled my conf Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3508 guile      guile doesn't have right permi Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3509 ucbmpeg    mpeg_play puts bogus statistic Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  3510 nas        removal of nas doesn't kill 'a Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3511 debianutil typo on installkernel man page Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3514 dialog     Required package modconf depen Leland Lucius <llucius@millcomm
  3515 gdb        gdb prints corrupted message   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3516 kernel     SCSI_IOCTL_SEND_COMMAND can ca Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  3517 inn        innd won't remove syslog.conf  Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3521 mc         mc core dumps                  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3525 j1         j1 hard-linked docs/manpages   (unknown -- `j')
  3529 ftp.debian libgr and zlib1 collide, but d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3533 rc         Problems encountered while bui Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3535 taper      Problems encountered while bui Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3538 bash       bash on m68k doesn't use ncurs Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3539 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if an error occu Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3540 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a problem occ Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3541 libc5      rlogin blocks on ECONNREFUSED! (unknown -- `libc')
  3542 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3543 git        Problems encountered while com Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3544 mawk       Problems encountered while com Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3545 pgp-i      Problems encountered while com Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3547 mc         Problems encountered while com Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3548 acm        acm description: no ext        Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3550 amstex     amstex description: no ext     Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3551 automake   automake description: summary  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3552 aout-binut aout-binutils description: no  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3553 aout-librl aout-librl description: no ext Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3554 bdflush    bdflush description: summary s Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3557 base       base description: no ext       Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3558 beav       beav description: ext extra sp Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3559 acs        acs description: no ext        adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3561 bash       bash description: no ext       Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  3562 elviscmn   elviscmn description: no ext   sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  3565 dbview     dbview description: ext extra  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3566 dejagnu    dejagnu description: summary s Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3567 byacc      byacc description: no ext      dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3568 bin86      bin86 description: no ext      (unknown -- `bin')
  3569 emacs-el   emacs-el description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3571 fortune    fortune description: summary s dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3572 dld        dld description: ext start ind gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3574 binutils   binutils description: no ext   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3575 boot-flopp boot-floppies description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3578 dlltools   dlltools description: no ext   Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  3582 electric-f electric-fence description: no Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  3583 fort77     fort77 description: no ext     (unknown -- `fort')
  3584 g77        g77 description: ext start ind (unknown -- `g')
  3586 findutils  findutils description: no ext  Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3587 gnuplot    gnuplot description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3588 git        git description: ext extra spa Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3590 libjpeg6a  libjpeg6a description: ext sta (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3592 ipx        ipx description: no ext        mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3594 gwm        gwm description: no ext        Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3596 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3598 ghostview  ghostview description: ext sta Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3599 gdb        gdb description: no ext        David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3601 minicom    minicom description: no ext    Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3606 lynx       lynx description: ext extra sp Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3607 rc         rc description: no ext         Simon Shapiro <shimon@i-Connect
  3608 libjpeg6a- libjpeg6a-dev description: no  (unknown -- `libjpeg')
  3609 shellutils shellutils description: no ext daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  3610 xfntcyr    xfntcyr description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3611 libwww-per libwww-perl description: no ex Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  3612 libdb1     libdb1 description: no ext     (unknown -- `libdb')
  3613 mh-papers  mh-papers description: no ext  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3616 less       less description: ext extra sp Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3617 mawk       mawk description: ext extra sp Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3620 most       most description: summary star Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3621 lxtools    lxtools description: no ext    Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3626 libg++27   libg++27 description: no ext   (unknown -- `libg++')
  3628 modconf    modconf description: no ext    Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3629 pmake      pmake description: no ext      Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3630 ncpfs      ncpfs description: summary sta mrn20@cam.ac.uk (Michael R. Non
  3631 oleo       oleo description: no ext       Kevin Dalley <kevin@aimnet.com>
  3632 nis        nis description: summary start Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3635 pcb        pcb description: no ext        Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3637 w3-el      w3-el description: no ext      (unknown -- `w')
  3638 setserial  setserial description: no ext  Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3640 tkdesk     tkdesk description: ext start  Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3641 unarj      unarj description: ext start i Karl Ferguson <karl@tower.net.a
  3642 syslinux   syslinux description: no ext   Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3643 taper      taper description: no ext      Joe Kirby <kirby@utk.edu>
  3644 procmail   procmail description: no ext   Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3645 slang-deve slang-devel description: ext e Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3647 timezone   timezone description: summary  Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3649 win32libs  win32libs description: no ext  (unknown -- `win')
  3650 xfntbig    xfntbig description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3651 win32gcc   win32gcc description: no ext   (unknown -- `win')
  3653 win32binut win32binutils description: no  (unknown -- `win')
  3654 xcoral     xcoral description: summary st Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  3655 wenglish   wenglish description: no ext   Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3657 xfnt100    xfnt100 description: no ext    (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3661 xlib       xlib description: no ext       Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3662 xslib      xslib description: no ext      Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3663 xfntscl    xfntscl description: no ext    Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3664 workbone   workbone description: no ext   dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3665 xfnt75     xfnt75 description: no ext     (unknown -- `xfnt')
  3670 idanish    idanish description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3671 dosemu     dosemu description: no ext     Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3672 idutch     idutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3673 gsfonts    gsfonts description: no ext    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3675 xwpe       xwpe description: no ext       dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3677 arrl-infos arrl-infoserv description: no  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3678 xxgdb      xxgdb description: no ext      Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3680 auto-pgp   auto-pgp description: ext star Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3682 wswedish   wswedish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3684 rsynth     rsynth description: summary st Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3687 wfrench    wfrench description: no ext    jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3688 wnorwegian wnorwegian description: no ext jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3691 witalian   witalian description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3697 wdutch     wdutch description: no ext     Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3698 wspanish   wspanish description: no ext   jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3700 www.debian Web pages lack <LINK REV="MADE Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenun
  3703 mkisofs    mkisofs stops if a permission  Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3704 dpkg       Weird dselect behavior (bug?)  Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3705 procmail   procmail does close(-1)        Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  3707 elm        Problems encountered while com Carl Streeter <streeter@cae.wis
  3711 uucp       Problems encountered while com dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3712 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3713 p2c        Problems encountered while com (unknown -- `p')
  3714 term       Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3717 netpbm     netpbm doesn't provide index o Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3718 ash        Problems encountered while com Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3720 sysvinit   shutdown prints "You don't exi Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3721 termcap-co Problems while compiling "term Christian Hudon <chrish@debian.
  3725 man        Another data point on apropos  Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3726 ed         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3727 bc         Problems encountered while com Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3730 xbase      improper lookup of window mana Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3734 xbase et a X11 problems                   Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3735 cern-httpd cern-httpd doesn't send fqdn o Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3737 xosview    xosview uses -O3 -f...         joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3739 man        `man -l -' for stdin doesn't w Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3740 modconf    A couple of problems popped up Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3742 tcpdump    tcpdump doesn't notice icmp pa Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3743 netpbm     Problems encountered while com Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3747 setserial  "setserial" doesn't support mu Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3748 fvwm       Pixmaps missing from fvwm pack Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3750 xserver-s3 X server inaccessible sometime (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  3751 xbase      xconsole stops logging when sy Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3752 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3753 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3754 sendmail   sendmail shouldn't require 'de Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3755 xaw3d      xaw3d shouldn't automatically  (unknown -- `xaw')
  3756 sendmail   sendmail has wrong path to pro Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3759 ghostview  xxgdb and ghostview have bad M Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3761 lilo       LILO installation problem      Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3762 setserial  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial usuall Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3765 dpkg       dpkg and kernel-* package name Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3766 man        "man" acting too smart.        Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3770 perl       dodgy `\n' in perl postinst    Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3772 lilo       lilo should not depend on MBR  Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  3773 xless      xless default window too thin  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3775 login      upgrading login temporarily br Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3782 bsdmainuti GNU nm breaks lorder           Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3784 perl       perl does not install on base  Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3785 perl       perl_5.003-2.deb (in "rex") an Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3786 base       base includes anonymous ftp ac Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3787 tin        tin uses /etc/news/description Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3788 man        `apropos' matches only word-su Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3789 mbr        `mbr' package doesn't say how  Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3791 cfingerd   Problems with "cfingerd" when  Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  3792 netpbm     Problems with "netpbm" when co Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3793 pmake      bsd.lib.mk incompatible with G Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3794 adduser    adduser should not be essentia Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3798 passwd     passwd should not be essential Guy Maor <maor@ece.utexas.edu>
  3799 timezone   timezone should not be essenti Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  3800 setserial  setserial should not be essent Gordon Russell <gor@dcs.napier.
  3801 ncurses3.0 ncurses3.0 should not be essen (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3803 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3804 npasswd-bo npasswd-boulder doesn't change Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  3805 base       /dev/MAKEDEV spells 'isdn' as  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3808 ppp        ppp postinst gives error       Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3809 base       /usr/doc/debian-0.93 still aro Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3812 apsfilter  Apsfilter should depend on fil Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3814 perl       perl and the empty directories Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3815 bsdutils   "ndc stats" fails              Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  3816 uucp       uucp is still a.out            dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3818 fortune    fortune is still a.out !       dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3823 gdb        Gdb's `handle' command behavio David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3824 exmh       exmh fails to start            Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  3825 libc5      %p either misbehaves or misdoc (unknown -- `libc')
  3827 tk40       Tk4.0's bell flashes the displ (unknown -- `tk')
  3829 ncurses-bi tic.1 refers to unavailable in Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3830 ncurses-bi captoinfo confused by /etc/ter Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3832 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3833 nis        Manual pages for some yp* prog Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3834 squid      squid core dumps regularly     Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3835 latex      Problem with Latex installatio Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3837 xv         Why isn't xv linked with the l Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3838 gcc        GCC should depend on CPP, not  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  3839 autoconf   autoconf wants `nawk'          Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3842 tkdesk, tk tkdesksh grows really large    Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  3843 ncurses-ba dselect resets automargins in  Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3845 compface   invalid directories in compfac Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3846 lynx       lynx misdisplays multiple <dt> Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3847 perl       Perl & G++                     Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3848 a2gs       "a2gs" requires changes to sup (unknown -- `a')
  3849 acm        "acm" requires changes to supp Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3850 cern-httpd "cern-httpd" requires changes  Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3851 acs        "acs" requires changes to supp adfernan@cnd.mcgill.ca (Andrew 
  3852 cnews      "cnews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3853 dld        "dld" requires changes to supp gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R.
  3855 fortune    "fortune" requires changes to  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3856 guile      "guile" requires changes to su Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  3857 xcontrib   listres dumps core             Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3861 adduser    when adduser runs finger it di Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3862 inews      "inews" requires changes to su Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3865 j1         "j1" requires changes to suppo (unknown -- `j')
  3866 hdparm     "hdparm" requires changes to s Steven B Dunham <dunham@gdl.msu
  3869 nntp       "nntp" requires changes to sup Otmar Lendl <lendl@cosy.sbg.ac.
  3870 p2c        "p2c" requires changes to supp (unknown -- `p')
  3872 pcb        "pcb" requires changes to supp Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3873 xosview    Xosview hangs when a dummy net joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3874 perl       Archive of perl 5.003-2 is bro Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3875 lynx       Lynx thinks *.deb files are "t Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3876 cron       checksecurity shouldn't search Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3877 svgalib1-d /usr/doc/examples/svgalib1/3d  (unknown -- `svgalib')
  3878 adduser    adduser --home aborts if dir e Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3879 adduser    adduser: man page has '=V' str Steve Phillips <sjp@cvfn.org>
  3881 rspfd      "rspfd" requires changes to su Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  3885 umsdos     "umsdos' requires changes to s Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  3886 tf         "tf" requires changes to suppo Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  3888 workbone   "workbone" requires changes to dgregor@bronze.coil.com (D.J. G
  3890 uucp       "uucp" requires changes to sup dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3892 rootdisk   mkfs.ext2: can't resolve symbo Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3895 mgetty, ne file conflicts: mgetty vs netp Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3896 mgetty     /sbin/mgetty is not world-read Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3897 mgetty     mgetty syslogs with priority ` Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3898 mgetty     mgetty has bogus errno in usag Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3899 mgetty     mgetty doesn't remove logfiles Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3900 mgetty     mgetty doesn't work            Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  3902 base       base disks' network configurat Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3904 ncurses3.0 ncurses on mono linux console  (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3905 base       base disks still install part  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3906 xbase      Errors in the Compose file for Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3908 perl       perl h2ph problem              Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3911 a2ps       "a2ps" requires changes for mu (unknown -- `a')
  3912 wnorwegian "wnorwegian" requires changes  jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3913 idanish    "idanish" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3914 wdutch     "wdutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3915 biff       "biff" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  3917 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  3921 kpathsea   "kpathsea" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  3922 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3923 witalian   "witalian" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3925 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  3926 wspanish   "wspanish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3927 wfrench    "wfrench" requires changes for jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3928 wswedish   "wswedish" requires changes fo jimr@simons-rock.edu (Robinson,
  3930 giftrans   "giftrans" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  3931 idutch     "idutch" requires changes for  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  3932 rsynth     "rsynth" requires changes for  Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  3936 uucp       uutraf dumps core in gmtime()  dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3937 uucp       uutraf has repeated words in m dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  3939 man        /etc/manpath.config is not a c Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  3940 apache     Apache's default index.html sa Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3942 tin        tin cannot find Newsgroup Desc Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  3944 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  3950 inn        INN message size limitation to Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  3952 less       Less annoyances                Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  3953 tk41       Tk 4.1's bell flashes the disp (unknown -- `tk')
  3954 xcontrib   xload dont needs tu run suid   Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  3955 bison      yacc script uses $* instead of Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  3961 zoo        14 character file name limit i Martin Schulze <joey@namib.nort
  3962 pixmap     Pixmap "calloc" problem        joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  3963 abuse      abuse                          Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  3966 bind       nslookup: fatal flex scanner i Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3967 nvi        hex codes instead of 8-bit cha Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  3968 rootdisk   installation checks for CD-ROM Ian Murdock <imurdock@debian.or
  3969 apache     Apache 1.0.5 Security Hole     Yves Arrouye <Yves.Arrouye@mari
  3970 cvs        cvsinit is not in cvs-1.8.1-1  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  3973 ncurses-bi Home/End keys don't work right Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  3974 ncurses3.0 problem with arrow keys in dse (unknown -- `ncurses')
  3975 netpbm     netpbm is mostly free          Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  3978 lists.debi problem (re)subscribing to deb Anders Christrom <ac@netg.se>
  3980 netstd     netstd many compiler warnings  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  3983 base       Wrong entry in /etc/group      Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3984 libc5      NIS writes error message to ST (unknown -- `libc')

Submitted in the last month:
 Ref   Package    Keywords/Subject               Package maintainer
  3986 base       inconsistency between base and Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3988 kbd        Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard m Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  3989 procps     `w' produces corrupted output  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  3990 xbase      xdm-errors location not what F Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  3991 dpkg       dselect has confusing and biza Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  3993 mount      users can't umount user mounts Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  3994 base       ae won't deinstall             Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  3999 kernel     nfs module fails to load       Simon Shapiro  <Shimon@i-connec
  4000 emacs      emacs can't initialize x windo Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4002 base       base wipes out utmp & wtmp     Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4004 syslinux   procinfo breaks without module Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4005 lynx       Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *. Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4008 cvs        CVS texinfo docs won't format  Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4009 base       /bin/edit causes error after a Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4011 gcc        simple c++ program segfaults   David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4012 xbase      xbase: `window-managers' was u Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4013 groff      groff version is old           Alvar Bray <alvar@meiko.co.uk>
  4014 netpbm     netpbm is missing manual pages Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4015 xbase      xterm & xterm.color sets broke Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4016 elvisctags ref not in elvisctags          sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4017 bootdisk   boot disk doesn't recognize NC Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4019 bootdisk   Decompression failure on Insta Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4020 base       Base shouldn't contain /var/ru Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4021 auctex     "auctex" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4023 mgt        "mgt" requires changes for mul Brian Sulcer <bsulcer@pobox.com
  4024 cvs        "cvs" requires changes for mul Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4026 pcb        "pcb" requires changes for mul Bruce Perens <Bruce@Pixar.com>
  4027 xless      "xless" requires changes for m Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4028 motifnls   "motifnls" requires changes fo Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4030 sam        "sam" requires changes for mul Raul Miller <moth@firefly.com>
  4031 vm         "vm" requires changes for mult Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4032 rxvt       "rxvt" requires changes for mu Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4033 xosview    "xosview" requires changes for joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4034 elv-vi     "elvis" requires changes for m sgk@sgk.tiac.net ("Susan G. Kle
  4035 xbmbrowser "xbmbrowser" requires changes  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4036 xcontrib   "xcontrib" requires changes fo Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4037 xtel       "xtel" requires changes for mu Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4038 untex      "untex" requires changes for m Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  4041 xtrlock    "xtrlock" requires changes for Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4042 unclutter  "unclutter" requires changes f dgregor@gregor.com (D.J. Gregor
  4043 xearth     "xearth" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4044 tkined     "tkined" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4045 electric-f "electric-fence" requires chan Siggy Brentrup <bsb@uni-muenste
  4046 xpaste     "xpaste" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4047 makeindex  "makeindex" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4048 dosemu     access permissions for /usr/bi Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4052 bison      access permissions for /usr/bi Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4053 dosemu     a) still a.out b) script: i ha Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4056 xserver-s3 mouse cursor in X3 server is c (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4060 bootdisk   Kernel decompression failure.  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4061 timezone   Debian                         Fernando Alegre <alegre@mars.su
  4062 procps     running ps as root does not re Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4064 sendmail   sendmail should recommend deli Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4065 sendmail   FEATURE(local_procmail) needs  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4066 xserver-s3 strangeness with X3 server     (unknown -- `xserver-s')
  4067 Umsdos     Umsdos 0.8.4 needs upgrade.    Michael Nonweiler <mrn20@cam.ac
  4068 perl-tk    pgs in perl-tk does not work   Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  4069 slrn       slrn gives error               Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4071 hyperlatex ps2gif has incorrect pathname  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4073 make       make pattern rules delete inte Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@pilg
  4074 dpkg       problems with 1.1 release      Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4075 lrzsz      Possible security problem with Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  4081 xosview    xosview doesn't install a bina joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4082 fvwm       No documentation for fvwm modu Austin Donnelly <and1000@debian
  4085 sendmail   /etc/init.d/sendmail does not  Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4086 libc5      rsh segfaults with baudrate=11 (unknown -- `libc')
  4087 xcontrib   xgc dumps core                 Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4088 ghostview  ghostview does not put filenam Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4089 base       problems with rc.local         Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4091 netstd     Ftp does not wait for user ans Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4092 procmail   procmail docs not owned by roo Wendal Catt <wendal@southwind.n
  4093 dpkg       start-stop-daemon fails to kil Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4096 abuse      abuse is still a.out           Doug Geiger <runexe@ntplx.net>
  4097 smail      smail cron jobs don't test if  Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4100 pixmap     pixmap dumps core (bad depth?) joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4101 xpostitplu xpostitplus loses previous pos Karl Sackett <krs@caos.aamu.edu
  4102 sp         sp and LaTeX problems          Susan Kleinmann <sgk@tiac.net>
  4103 slrn       slrn epends on unavailable sla Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4104 ghostview  ghostview does not obey %%Boun Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4105 xterm-colo making slrn work in a color xt Mark Eichin <eichin@cygnus.com>
  4107 emacs      emacs leaves stale lockfiles a Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4109 gs         "gs" requires changes for mult joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4110 g77        "g77" requires changes for mul (unknown -- `g')
  4112 postgres95 "postgres95" requires changes  (unknown -- `postgres')
  4114 xasteroids "xasteroids" requires changes  Klee Dienes <klee@sedona.com>
  4115 xcoral     "xcoral" requires changes for  Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4117 xwpe       "xwpe" requires changes for mu dgregor@coil.com (D.J. Gregor)
  4118 xosview    xosview doesn't use XUSERFILES joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4121 ppp        ppp setup bug (postinst?)      Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4123 gnuchess   "gnuchess" requires changes fo Nikhil Nair <nnair@debian.org>
  4124 xmanpages  typo in XtOpenApplication manp Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4125 libpaper   libpaper should ask for papers Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4126 ssh        ssh & gpm                      (unknown -- `ssh')
  4127 uucp       uucp uses /usr/spool           dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4130 xcompat    Old motif applications don't r Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4131 base       majordom -- 30 or 31?          Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4132 netstd     Could popclient be changed to  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4133 samba      Samba goes into busy loop?     Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4138 libpaper   libpaper /usr/bin/paper is lik Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4139 libpaper   libpaper /etc/papersize is aut Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4140 dosemu     dosemu package is lacking its  Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4141 rsynth     "say" is an a.out binary       Marcel Riedi <riedi@tik.ee.ethz
  4142 fortune    strfile, unstr are a.out binar dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4143 fortune    fortune is an a.out binary     dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4146 cfingerd   cfingerd incorrectly says [MSG Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.n
  4147 mount      [daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU : [linu Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4149 base       /etc/resolv.conf gets bad conf Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4151 smail      /etc/cron.daily/smail not remo Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4152 procps     psupdate writes /etc/psdatabas Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4154 shellutils `echo' provides no way to unpa daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  4156 rpncalc    rpncalc has unexecutable unwri David Frey <David.Frey@eos.lugs
  4157 ptx        `permutated' is not a word     Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4158 pine       pine does not lock mailbox pro Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4159 xcoral     xcoral dies                    Christophe Le Bars <clebars@deb
  4160 mosaic, xs Mosaic caused X to become unre Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4162 zircon     stack trace                    Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4163 sysklogd   syslogd loops                  Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4164 ferret     Ferret extended description ha Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.co
  4165 lclint     LCLint extended description ha Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4166 mosaic     Mosaic extended description ha Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4169 pixmap     pixmap dies                    joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4170 vlock      vlock can make the system unus Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4171 lclint     "lclint" requires changes for  Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4172 wg15-local "wg15-locale" requires changes (unknown -- `wg')
  4173 xbase      xdm stop-script should use --p Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4174 latex      Unable to use 'dc' fonts in la Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4178 less       silly problem with less        Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  4180 bash       bash has duplicate examples    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4181 nn         Searching for wrong active fil Mike Coleman <coleman@chez-gnu.
  4182 grep       grep on /proc/kcore dumps core Wichert Akkerman <wakkerma@wi.l
  4183 netpbm     Typo in netpbm setup           Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4184 netdiag    "netdiag" requires changes for Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4185 mgetty     "mgetty" requires changes for  Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4186 xfishtank  "xfishtank" requires changes f Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4187 zircon     "zircon" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4188 ldso       ldd never gives non-zero exit  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4190 libc5      serious security hole in libc  (unknown -- `libc')
  4191 latex      Latex_2e-7 has redundant files Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4192 man        "input in flex scanner failed" Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4193 manpages-d German Manpages                Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  4195 dpkg       dpkg-source and new tar packag Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4203 sendmail   sendmail does not install if / Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4204 cron       cron does not install if /usr/ Steve Greenland <stevegr@master
  4205 general    bind does not reinstall if /us debian-devel@pixar.com
  4206 perl       Perl `pod' documentation shoul Darren Stalder <torin@daft.com>
  4207 man        man sends "No manual entry" er Alvar Bray <alvar@debian.org>
  4208 amsfonts   "amsfonts" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4209 xdvik      "xdvik" requires changes for m Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4210 amstex     "amstex" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4211 dviljk     "dviljk" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4212 pandora    "pandora" requires changes for Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4213 mh         "mh" requires changes for mult Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@lo
  4214 oldgerman  "oldgerman" requires changes f Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4215 zircon     "zircon" requires changes for  Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4216 amslatex   "amslatex" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4217 ps2pk      "ps2pk" requires changes for m (unknown -- `ps')
  4218 inn        Problems removing INN          Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4220 ghostview  ghostview and /etc/papersize   Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4222 bind       dig in the wrong package?      Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4223 mosaic     Mosaic looks bad on mono displ Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4224 mosaic     Mosaic produces poor rendering Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4225 lynx       lynx fails to substitute %XX i Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4226 mosaic     Mosaic fails to substitute %XX Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4227 tin        Tin  TIN_NOVROOTDIR wrong valu Kenny Wickstrom <kenny@kennet.c
  4228 sysklogd   syslogd loops                  Martin Schulze <joey@linux.de>
  4229 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/skeleton is missin Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4230 sysvinit   /etc/init.d/network is an auto Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels
  4231 manpages   acct(2) man page refers to non Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  4232 bison      bison dumps core               Anders Chrigstrom <ac@netg.se>
  4233 xbase      startx does not initialize X c Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4234 kernel-pac errors in /usr/man/man8/make-k Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debi
  4235 dpkg-ftp   cpp, gcc, dpkg                 awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  4236 netstd     ftp(1) barfs on QUOTE command  Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4237 lpr        lpd remote printing problem    Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4238 mirror     mirror requires perl           Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@qed.econ
  4239 xbmbrowser xbmbrowser recommends pbmplus  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4240 gs         mfdcfnt setup error            joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4241 dpkg-ftp   Connect with nothing to do     awpguy@acs.ucalgary.ca (Andy W.
  4243 9term      9term leaves mouse droppings   (unknown)
  4245 bash       S-96-48: Vulnerability in "bas Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4246 binutils   binutils calls ldconfig in pre David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4247 e2fsprogs  e2fsprogs calls ldconfig in pr (unknown -- `e')
  4248 procps     procps calls ldconfig in prerm Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4249 xlib       xlib calls ldconfig in prerm/p Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4250 xcompat    xcompat calls ldconfig in prer Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4251 libpaper   libpaper calls ldconfig in pre Yves Arrouye <arrouye@debian.or
  4252 libgpm1    libgpm1 calls ldconfig in prer (unknown -- `libgpm')
  4254 msqld      msql config problems           Martin Schulze <joey@office.ind
  4255 ftp.debian update buzz-updates/Removed, d Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4256 shellutils tee does not write to file if  daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  4258 kbd        kbd program can't use multiple Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4259 ftp.debian files in wrong directories?    Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4260 m4         "\n" missing in m4 Description (unknown -- `m')
  4261 ghostview  Ghostview -- needs MIME entry  Helmut Geyer <Helmut.Geyer@iwr.
  4264 netstd     DIP/PPP support incorrect.     Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4265 util-linux util-linux_2.5-5.deb:  /sbin/c Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4266 gs         gs prints debugging info when  joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4267 xosview    xosview doesn't understand -ge joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4268 gs         Figure displayed incorrectly   joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4269 xosview    xosview has only XOSView as ap joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4270 xosview    xosview should be able to moni joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4271 emacs      emacs has no "debian-rundir"   Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4272 ncftp      ncftp dumps core when xterm wi Michael Alan Dorman <mdorman@de
  4274 itimer     "itimer" requires changes for  Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4275 dmalloc    "dmalloc" requires changes for Jeroen van der Most <jvdmost@wi
  4276 ltxgraph   "ltxgraph" requires changes fo Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4277 ltxmisc    "ltxmisc" requires changes for Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4278 auto-pgp   "auto-pgp" requires changes fo Mike Deisher <deisher@dspsun.ea
  4279 pari       "pari" requires changes for mu Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4280 ntgclass   "ntgclass" requires changes fo Erick Branderhorst <branderhors
  4281 xsnow      "xsnow" requires changes for m Stephen Early <sde1000@cam.ac.u
  4282 psnfss     "psnfss" requires changes for  Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4283 xview      "xview" requires changes for m Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4284 xv         "xv" requires changes for mult Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4285 expect     "expect" requires changes for  David Engel <david@ods.com>
  4286 xanim      "xanim" requires changes for m (unknown -- `xanim')
  4287 ircd       ircd postinst uses illegal opt (unknown -- `ircd')
  4288 ircd       ircd doc files have bad permis (unknown -- `ircd')
  4289 mount      mount's swapon command doesn't Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4291 base       dselect and ftp                Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4292 win32gcc   win32gcc can't exec cc1        (unknown -- `win')
  4293 mawk       mawk doesn't report an error o Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com>
  4295 base       majordom passwd line is wrong  Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com>
  4296 bind       named should provide reverse o Robert Leslie <rob@mars.org>
  4297 msql       msql 1.0.16 cannot connect to  Martin Schulze <joey@office.ind
  4298 ncurses3.0 arrow keys in dselect don't wo (unknown -- `ncurses')
  4300 netpbm     netpbm "Incoming" package      Jim Robinson <jimr@simons-rock.
  4301 xbase      missing bitmaps                Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4302 uucp       uucp                           dhs@firefly.com (David H. Silbe
  4303 gimp-smoti config of gimp-smotif          Rob Browning <osiris@cs.utexas.
  4304 emacs-el   Wrong .el files in emacs?      Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4306 gs         gs and rounded corner rectangl joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4307 netstd     telnet and 256+ character past Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4308 ssh        ssh and 256+ character pastes  (unknown -- `ssh')
  4309 net-acct   no manpage in net-acct         Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@debian.or
  4310            (no subject)                   (unknown)
  4311            (no subject)                   (unknown)
  4312 gmp        gmp should be dynamic lib      Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4313 ssh        ssh should use gmp's dynamic l (unknown -- `ssh')
  4314 unzip      unzip is missing > in Maintain Stuart Lamble <lamble@yoyo.cc.m
  4315 xfishtank  xfishtank problems             Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4317 xosview    xosview should display cached  joost witteveen <joostje@debian
  4318 mfbasfnt   important TeX fonts missing    Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4319 netstd and netbase and netstd packages ov Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4320 latex      dc fonts (t1enc) are much too  Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4321 doc-debian doc-debian has old bug-reporti Sven Rudolph <sr1@inf.tu-dresde
  4322 lclint     lclint postinst gives error if Dale Miller <dale@csd.uwo.ca>
  4323 xntp       xntp allows only one timeserve Andrew Howell <andrew@it.com.au
  4324 slrn       slrn misuses apostrophe        Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@cind
  4325 majordomo  majordomo -- incorrect quoting Richard Kettlewell <richard@elm
  4326 smail      smail can lose bounce messages Soenke Lange <soenke@escher.nor
  4327 manpages   hsearch(3) man page patches    Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org
  4328 util-linux                                Guy Maor <maor@debian.org>
  4329 emacs      Emacs has hardcoded path for j Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4330 amd        amd hangs system               Dominik Kubla <Dominik.Kubla@Un
  4331 wu-ftpd    [linux-security] [linux-alert] Peter Tobias <tobias@et-inf.fho
  4332 xlib       Vulnerability in the Xt librar Stephen Early <sde1000@debian.o
  4334 squid      squid should not run as root b Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
  4335 textutils  cat -vET is lossy - there shou Erick Branderhorst <branderh@de
  4336 ssh        /etc/ssh/ssh_random_seed shoul (unknown -- `ssh')
  4337 ssh        ssh should be compiled with -O (unknown -- `ssh')
  4338 ssh        sshd should support shadow pas (unknown -- `ssh')
  4339 pine       no free pine package available Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net
  4340 dpkg       Cosmetic dpkg enhancement requ Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4341 hello      no man page                    Ian Jackson <iwj10@cus.cam.ac.u
  4342 dpkg       pgp command : add '+clearsig=o Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam
  4343 ssh        ssh binaries are not stripped  (unknown -- `ssh')
  4344 trn        trn should provide news-reader jkr@master.debian.org (Jonathan
  4345 shellutils Silly mistake in yes manpage   daveb@tau.space.thiokol.com (Da
  4346 ltxmisc    Essential LaTeX style files mi Nils Rennebarth <nils@nus.pan-n
  4347 emacs      emacs html-mode + font-lock hi Mark Eichin <eichin@kitten.gen.
  4348 smartlist  smartlist.postinst fails       Christoph Lameter <clameter@wat
  4349 dpkg       dpkg-source has misleading war Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.chu.cam

The listing by package maintainer is posted every Wednesday,
and the listing by age of the report every Friday.

Please see the documentation for more information about how to
use the bug tracking system.  It is available on the WWW at
 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/debian-bugs/
or
 http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
and also in the Debian FTP archive's doc/bug-*.txt files.


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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.3.12

sfere:/home/ftp/pub/debian/binary/base$ dpkg-buildpackage -h

[...]

Usage: dpkg-buildpackage [options]
Options: -r<gain-root-command>

[...]
         -si (default) src includes orig for rev. 0 or 1    } genchanges
         -sa           uploaded src includes orig (default) }

Clearly one or the other of these is the default, but not both!

(S)


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Package: manpages
Version: 1.11-4

    ERRORS
	   EBADF   filedes is bad.

	   ENOENT  File does not exist.

EACCESS, EFAULT, ENOMEM and ENAMETOOLONG are also possible.

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    SEE ALSO
	   open(2),   dup2(2),  F_DUPFD(2),  F_GETFD(2),  F_GETFL(2),
	   F_GETLK(2), socket(2).

but:

    richard@sfere:richard$ man F_GETLK
    No manual entry for F_GETLK

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Package: emacs
Version: 19.31-2

movemail complains about not being able to write a temp file in
/var/spool/mail.

One fix might be to make it setgid mail, iff the code is written to be
sufficiently paranoid.
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Michael Shields <shields@crosslink.net> writes:
> Package: emacs
> Version: 19.31-2
> 
> movemail complains about not being able to write a temp file in
> /var/spool/mail.
> 
> One fix might be to make it setgid mail, iff the code is written to be
> sufficiently paranoid.

As shipped, it *was* installed setuid root + setgid mail... could you
check your installation and verify, and perhaps be more specific about
movemail's complaint?  Also include the actual modes of your
/var/spool/mail directory, and an indication of what you're using to
invoke movemail. 

% ar p /p/a1/debian/mirror/binary/editors/emacs_19.31-2.deb data.tar.gz | tar tzvf - | grep movemail
-rwsr-sr-x root/mail     14516 1996-06-03 00:05 usr/lib/emacs/19.31/i386-debian-linux/movemail


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Package: lesstif-dev
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The header files are placed under /usr/include/X11/Xm. However, thex shoudl
go in /usr/include/Xm since they include others with:

#include <Xm/Xm.h>

Michael

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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: 96 New Debian i386 Packages"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > Can we please have a statement on what we should do ?
> > 
> > I think we should post the release announcements to debian-changes as
> > well has having the summary postings.
> > 
> > If people want just the summaries we should provide a separate list.
> 
> I second all of that.

I propose to add the text below to the policy manual.

Ian.

<sect>Upload handling - announcements
<p>

When a package is uploaded an announcement should be posted to
<tt/debian-changes/.  The announcement should give the (source)
package name and version number, and a very short summary of the
changes, in the <prgn/Subject/ field, and should contain the
PGP-signed <tt/.changes/ file.  Some additional explanatory text may
be added before the start of the <tt/.changes/ file.
<p>

If a package is released with <tt/Distribution: experimental/ the
announcement should be posted to <tt/debian-devel/ instead.


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Brian C. White writes ("Re: Bug#4261: Ghostview and virtual package postscript_viewer"):
...
> Yes, [something] _is_ what should be done.  "install-mime" handles
> multiple entries for the same mime-type.  Thus, if both "ghostview"
> and "gv" get installed, the user is given the choice of which is to
> have priority in the mailcap file.  Trust me, this will work.  It
> was designed to handle just this case.
> 
> Please see the "install-mime" man page for more information.

Would someone please write a paragraph for the policy manual on the
use of install-mime ?  It's OK to refer to the manpage.

Thank you.

Ian.


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Package: emacs
Version: 19.31-2

I used to have in my startup files
 (menu-bar-mode nil)
which used to turn off menu bars.

In 19.31 this has changed so that `nil' doesn't have the desired
effect.  Instead, you have to supply a negative number !

This is totally inconsistent with almost every other emacs-lisp
function.

menu-bar-mode should accept `nil' to turn menu bars off and `t' to
turn them on.  I don't have an opinion about whether positive and
negative numbers ought to be supported.

Ian.


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Steve Greenland writes ("Re: Bug#4204: cron does not install if /usr/sbin/cron does not exist!?"):
> Yves Arrouye wrote:
...
> > marin13# dpkg -i cron_3.0pl1-33.deb 
> > (Reading database ... 22220 files and directories currently installed.)         
> > Preparing to replace cron (using cron_3.0pl1-33.deb) ...
> > start-stop-daemon: unable to stat executable `/usr/sbin/cron': No such file or d
> > irectory
> > dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
...
> 
> Interesting. It's failing because it's an upgrade (otherwise prerm
> wouldn't be called), but /usr/sbin/cron isn't there. I'm able to
> duplicate it by simply rm'ing cron, and then trying to do pretty
> much anything with dpkg -- install doesn't work, and neither does
> remove. I've tried --force-reinstreq ('cause one of the messages
> >from  dpkg is "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you
> should reinstall it before attempting a removal.") but that doesn't
> help.  I'm not sure how to get out of this other than going down
> into the bowels of /var/dpkg and messing with the prerm script:
> I don't see a --ignore-script-errors option for dpkg.

I could add one, of course, but it's probably a bad idea.

...
> They're supposed to have -e set. I'm not inclined to modify the
> script to check for /usr/sbin/cron, because the if the prerm script
> is called, then the cron package is installed, and the cron program
> is supposed to be there. If it isn't, then the file has been removed
> by manipulations outside the domain of the dpkg/dselect.

Indeed.

> If all the package scripts are supposed to deal with things happening
> outside the control of dpkg/dselect then I have about 300 bug
> reports to file :-).

Quite.

> I'm not closing this bug yet, because I would like to know if there
> is a way around this problem (other than 'touch /usr/bin/cron', which
> may well be the best answer). 

I think that `touch /usr/bin/cron' is the best answer.

Ian.


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Richard Kaszeta writes ("/usr/local (again)"):
...
> Since packages generally don't install anything other than empty dirs
> in /usr/local, can't this be handled in a way that makes it easier for
> those of us trying to maintain many debian machines?

Section 3.2.9 of the policy manual may be informative.

I haven't implemented the required feature for dpkg yet.

Ian.

  3.2.9 /usr/local - for the use of the system administrator           
   
   As mandated by the FSSTND no package should place any files in        
   /usr/local, either by putting them in the filesystem archive to be 
   unpacked by dpkg or by manipulating them in their maintainer scripts.
   
   Every package that searches a number of directories or files for     
   something (for example, looking for shared libraries in /lib or       
   /usr/lib) should search an appropriate directory in /usr/local too.   
   
   In order that the system administrator may know where to place   
   additional files a package should create an empty directory in the    
   appropriate place in /usr/local by supplying it in the filesystem
   archive for unpacking by dpkg. The /usr/local directory itself and all
   the subdirectories created by the package should have permissions 2775
   (group-writeable and set-group-id) and be owned by root.staff.        

   In the future it will be possible to tell dpkg not to unpack files 
   matching certain patterns, so that system administrators who do not
   wish these directories in /usr/local do not need to have them.       


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I've asked this question before, but noone seemed to want to answer
me, so I'm asking again:

It would be good for the dpkg manuals to be on the Debian web pages.
How do I organise this ?  I can (for example) ship a .tar.gz of the
HTML files with each dpkg upload.

I'd like to distribute PostScript versions too, since there seems to
be demand.  Should I just upload the .ps.gz files with dpkg uploads ?

Ian.


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Bruce Perens writes on debian-user and to lots of people:
...
> OK, I hear you - here's a note for the policy manual, Ian, if it isn't
> already in there.
> 
> Varargs and libtermcap are provided to support end-users installing
> legacy software, and the few packages (like Netscape) that are not
> available to us in binary form. Debian packages should be ported to
> stdarg and ncurses when they are built, please.

I have added the attached text.  Let me know if you want something
changed.

Ian.

<sect>Obsolete constructs and libraries: varargs and libtermcap
<p>

<prgn/&lt;varargs.h&gt;/ is provided to support end-users compiling
very old software; libtermcap is provided to support the execution of
software which has been linked against it (either old programs or
those such as Netscape which are only available in binary form).
<p>

Debian packages should be ported to <prgn/&lt;stdarg.h&gt;/ and
ncurses when they are built.


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Sven Rudolph writes ("FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages"):
...
>   1.  General Questions
> 
>   1.1.	What is Debian GNU/Linux
> 
>   [etc]

Sven, did you receive my message below ?

Ian.

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Sven Rudolph writes ("FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages"):
> Unfortunately there are some newly orphaned packages. Please look at
> sections 2. and 3.

Sven, how about making this list a little more concise.  It's hard to
see at a glance what's going on in amongst all the tables of contents
and descriptions and so forth.

A summary, near the top, with one line per package, would be very
good.  The only information needed there is the package name and the
summary description (from the package, or made up).  People can mail
debian-devel if they want to take over something.

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Michael Shields writes:
>Package: emacs
>Version: 19.31-2
>
>movemail complains about not being able to write a temp file in
>/var/spool/mail.
>
>One fix might be to make it setgid mail, iff the code is written to be
>sufficiently paranoid.

That's odd.

richard@sfere:richard$ ls -l /usr/lib/emacs/19.31/i386-debian-linux/movemail 
-rwsr-sr-x   1 root     mail        14516 Jun  3 05:05 /usr/lib/emacs/19.31/i386-debian-linux/movemail*
richard@sfere:richard$ 

(I understood that the whole point of movemail was to separate out the
bit of a mailer that needed to be setgid mail into a separate
executable.)

-- 
Richard Kettlewell   richard@greenend.org.uk   richard@elmail.co.uk
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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
...
> Well, I'm pretty sure that Bill didn't just wake up one morning and say
> "Wow! That essential field sure is neat! Let's put it in ae! My assumption
> was that this was an attempt to keep ae in the system.

I think that Bill was under the mistaken impression that every base
package should be marked essential.

...
> No, I am concerned about programs that might use $EDITOR as the means to
> providing an editor.  [...]

As has been pointed out, the dependency scheme doesn't help at all
here.

Ian.


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Michael Meskes writes ("Re: Bug#4051: access permissions for /usr/bin/fdmount"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
...
> > Err, I strongly suggest that you compile the group check out of the
> > executable.  This is only likely to lead to confusion.
> 
> I think I understand what you mean. But is it really that bad?

Well, how hard is it to compile out ?  It's not the most awful thing
that could happen to a program to have this unnecessary check, but I
do think it will add confusion.

Ian.


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I have reconfigured the sub-MTA in my home directory on master which
is used by the bug tracking system.  (I have Smail installed in my
filespace because qmail's sendmail command line emulation is broken
and using Smail as a gateway to the system's real MTA was easier than
trying to parse RFC822 recipient fields myself.)

The bug system's mailer will now deliver mail itself whenever it can;
previously it used `localhost' as a smarthost, so that master's qmail
installation would do the actual delivery.

This will, I hope:
 (a) provide logs for outgoing mail at least.  qmail does not log
     anything at all, making it impossible to trace missing mail.
 (b) provide faster delivery.  qmail doesn't deliver things
     immediately - it always waits for a queue run.
 (c) provide more reliable delivery.  I have had a couple of
     unexplained `unknown mail domain' type bounces.
 (d) allow me to inspect the outbound mail queue without becoming
     root.

Users should not notice any difference.  If you encounter any problems
(eg, malformed messages from the bug system) please let me know.

Ian.


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Mark W. Eichin writes ("Re: Bug#4329: Emacs has hardcoded path for jka-compr, breaks at upgrade"):
> Did you upgrade from 19.29-3 to 19.31-2 as indicated in your message,
> or to 19.34-2, which is current?

19.34-2 hasn't reached my local mirror yet.  Isn't it still in
Incoming ?

>  (I ask, because I just got the bug
> report today, and it appears to be about a day old -- but if you
> actually reported it before 8/27, then there is a bug tracking problem
> that needs attention.)

Years only have 12 months, ITYSBT.  Perhaps you meant the 27th of
August, aka 27.8.1996 aka 1996-8-27 ? [1]

If you look at the headers of the messages you'll see that I reported
it at 02:23 BST (= 01:23 GMT) on the 29th.

> I can see about making the emacs postinst smarter, but it's clear that
> the line you quoted from site-start was what was wrong in the first
> place.  I don't know, however, what package included it (which is a
> part of the reason for the change in the way startup code is handled...)

Right ...

Ian.

[1] Yes, I know it was probably deliberate, but American middle-endian
date-formats are stupid and confusing and I want them stamped out.


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Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: dpkg-buildpackage and -source questions"):
> On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > If you get this message [deleted]
> > you should upgrade your cpio.  [...]
> 
> This resolved the problem for me. At least at this point I can unpack
> hello ok. Shouldn't dpkg have a depends added for this? I have not
> understood your reluctance to add depends for patch and diff as well. If
> they really aren't dependencies, souldn't they be recommended or
> suggested? If not there should, at least be some mention of their
> usefulness in the description somewhere.

I've added Suggests for patch and cpio, and given a version for cpio,
and mentioned patch and cpio in the Description.

diff is in the base and marked essential.

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(Note wide crossposting - please trim followups.)

Alexander O. Yuriev writes:
...
> 			Until the official fix-kits are available for those
> 			systems, it is advised that system administrators
> 			obtain the source code of fixed mount program used
> 			in Debian/GNU Linux 1.1, compile it and replace the
> 			vulnerable binaries.
...

Debian is now phasing in a new source packaging format, which has some
advantages for internal uses, notably automatic building.

The procedure for unpacking the source without using our own tools
will change - I'm afraid it's a little more complicated, though fairly
obvious.

I've placed a description of what to do in
/debian/doc/source-unpack.txt in the Debian FTP archive, and made
links called README.source-unpack in /debian/unstable/source,
/debian/contrib and /debian/non-free.

A copy of the file is below.

Ian.

	HOW TO UNPACK A DEBIAN SOURCE PACKAGE

There are two kinds of Debian source packages: old ones and new ones.

A. Old ones look like this:
      hello-1.3-4.tar.gz
      hello-1.3-4.diff.gz
 You unpack them by untarring the .tar.gz.  There is NO need to apply
 the diff.

B. New ones look like this:
      hello_1.3-11.dsc
      hello_1.3-11.diff.gz
      hello_1.3-11.orig.tar.gz - note the `.orig' part
 Here you MUST use dpkg-source or apply the diff manually - see below.

 If you have `dpkg-source' you should put the files in the same
 directory and type `dpkg-source -x <whatever>.dsc'.

 If you do not you can extract the Debian source as follows:
   1. untar P_V.orig.tar.gz.
   2. rename the resulting P-V.orig directory to P-V.
   3. mkdir P-V/debian.
   4. apply the diff with patch -p0.
 (where P is the package name and V the version.)

C. There are some packages where the Debian source is the upstream
 source.  In this case there will be no .diff.gz and you can just use
 the .tar.gz.  If a .dsc is provided you can use `dpkg-source -x'.

 -- Ian Jackson <ijackson@gnu.ai.mit.edu>  Sat, 31 Aug 1996


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Dirk Eddelbuettel writes ("Re: Do we ever retire packages?"):
...
> I would like to have a2gs and a2ps removed. They both have the same
> Description: text, and scope, "ASCII to PostScript filter".
> 
> For me, a2gs is broken. I filed bug 1112 against it [1], and this bug is
> still open after 13 months. There are also bugs 3456 and 3848 against it.
> a2ps does a similar thing, but is in non-free. It has bugs 1874 and 3911
> against it.
> 
> Both programs are _completely surpassed_ by enscript (which used to be called
> genscript), a _GPL'ed_ program that does more than a2ps and a2gs.
> 
> I propose, as I did before, that these programs get removed. Unless someone
> complains, I will, as suggested, file two bugs against ftp.debian.org to have
> them removed.

I disagree.  If they really are that broken and noone wants to
maintain them, put them in contrib.

Unless enscript provides programs a2gs and a2ps which emulate their
command line interfaces then it is not a complete replacement.

Ian.


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Michael Alan Dorman writes ("'nother glitch with new source format..."):
> I've almost finished converting a whole package---the only thing I
> lack is a completed .changes file.
> 
> When running dpkg-buildpackage on my testbed, I get the following:
> ...
> dpkg-genchanges: error: package ncftp has section  in control file but
> - in files list
> ...
> The problem, I guess, is obvious enough, but I feel unsure of why this
> is a problem (I thought we were being encouraged to leave section and
> priority and all that to the archive maintainer).

See the new policy manual,
<URL:file://localhost/usr/doc/dpkg/policy.html/ch-binarypkg.html>, and
read the section on `Section and Priority'.

The problem is due to a bug in dpkg-genchanges which should have
called this a warning rather than an error, and due to your failure to
suggest a section and priority.

> Once this can be resolved, I guess my only remaining complaint would
> be that the build process is (until I have time to really sit down
> with the tools and explore them and exactly what they do) just a touch
> on the opaque side.
> 
> Which, I suppose just proves that Ian can't satisfy everyone all at
> once.

Have you found the right docs ?  Try the programmers' manual.

Ian.


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  Ian> Unless enscript provides programs a2gs and a2ps which emulate their
  Ian> command line interfaces then it is not a complete replacement.

That is a valid point, so I rest my case.

--
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> In 19.31 this has changed so that `nil' doesn't have the desired
> effect.  Instead, you have to supply a negative number !

Hmm. The way elisp "optional arguments" work, you can't distinguish
between (menu-bar-mode nil) and (menu-bar-mode), and both are
equivalent to "M-x menu-bar-mode" which a user might actually type.
scroll-bar-mode works the same way -- no arg (or nil) means *toggle*,
positive arg means turn on, negative arg means turn off.
(auto-compression-mode is another example)

In earlier releases, I vaguely recall that (menu-bar-mode) from the
user's .emacs file worked, but I don't have an older version of emacs
handy for comparison or to identify the change.




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Date: 27 Aug 96 22:26 UT
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
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Source: signify
Version: 1.00-1
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I'm a bit reluctant to move the header files to /usr/include, since
the FSSTND implies that all X-related header files should go under
/usr/X11R6/include.

I'm not sure if /usr/X11R6/include is in the default search path or
not, though I'd argue that putting files in there is confusing (the
only ones there now are xforms and netaudio), since the symlink from
/usr/include/X11 -> /usr/X11R6/include/X11 might confuse one into
thinking that those were the only files there.

Plus I just generally think Xm belongs under X11 like all the rest of
the widget libraries.

For now, I've left the header files where they were, and changed
lesstif to include the following two symlinks:

/usr/include/Xm -> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xm
/usr/X11R6/include/Xm -> /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xm

I'm certainly open to further debate, though --- I'm just doing this
now to get a fixed version out as quickly as possible.  I'll leave the
bug report open for the time-being.


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Package: smartlist
Version: 3.10-1

Hello,

I noticed a few problems with the smartlist when I installed it (to
check out whether or not it is a candidate to replace majordumbo)

My first thought was that the postinst should probably ask whether or
not it should set up an announce mailing list -- we might already have
such an aliases, or be using majordomo, or just want to check
smartlist out without creating a list yet.

The postinst is broken, it should use "hostname --fqdn" not "hostname
-fqdn" (the extra dash does it...).  The postinst should also check to
see whether or not newaliases exists before trying to run it, since
some of us haven't get our MTA set up to use it.

I thought it might get rid of "add following to /etc/aliases from the
"create announce" it does, because it adds the aliases itself.


Jim


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I just had dselect run through the latest and greatest in rex, and
then found out that something in there broke gcc's ability to find
cc1.  I just added the directory to my path, and got gcc working
again, but I believe one does not normally need to do this.  Gcc
should know where the correct preprocessor and other things are,
right?


Jim


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On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, James A. Robinson wrote:

jimr>My first thought was that the postinst should probably ask whether or
jimr>not it should set up an announce mailing list -- we might already have
jimr>such an aliases, or be using majordomo, or just want to check
jimr>smartlist out without creating a list yet.
But you need a list to test it. Ok. I can ask for it.

jimr>The postinst is broken, it should use "hostname --fqdn" not "hostname
jimr>-fqdn" (the extra dash does it...).  The postinst should also check to
jimr>see whether or not newaliases exists before trying to run it, since
jimr>some of us haven't get our MTA set up to use it.
newaliases could only run when the automatic announce list is generated.
The hostname stuff works fine on debian 1.1.X. Seems that rex contains
an incompatible version. Will fix it on next release.

jimr>
jimr>I thought it might get rid of "add following to /etc/aliases from the
jimr>"create announce" it does, because it adds the aliases itself.
That is what the standard script spits out. Could have a note appear
though to not take it for earnest.

There is another issue with Smartlist which is the automatic generation of
the list user. I do that with a sed script on /etc/passwd which is not
nice. Can anybody point me to the right direction how to use adduser to
add a user and a group without it asking any questions?

And could some kind soul finally get me on the debian-developers mailing
list? I have subscribed a couple of times with no result by writing
email to the request address.

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