Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #225
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To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 13:13:23 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #225, Volume #6           Mon, 13 Sep 93 13:13:23 EDT

Contents:
  Tape Drive (Trakker) / ZModem (LMRusu)
  Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS? (Malcolm Beattie)
  ESCOM Powerstreamer laeuft unter Linux! (Andreas Bartelt)
  Drivers for Colorado, IOMEGA tape streamers? (Demetrius Dracopoulos)
  What about a new numbering for Linux? (Rainer Kirsch)
  Re: Setting up an Address. (Matt McLeod)
  Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS? (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: Microsoft bus mouse problems in X - SLS 1.01 (0.99p9) (Byron C. Howes)
  Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (Charles Blair)
  Re: SuperUser <s> (Joeri van Ruth)
  Mice (Roy Davis)
  Network unreachable under new slackware (Michael S Finger-1)
  Re: gcc is swapping to disk all the time! (Derrick Cole)
  Re: SLS wont mount /proc (Derrick Cole)
  Re: Linux broke my computer! (Michael S Finger-1)
  Re: S3 Video Chipset/Swapping Problems (Scott D. Heavner)
  x/y/z-modem transmission problems; ever fixed??? (Bob Myers)
  UUCP uid (was: UUCP on SLS 1.03) (Willie Lim)
  Auto-answer with uugetty or getty (Willie Lim)
  Can a VGA monitor be connected to ... (manuel Toledo-Quinones)
  Re: ESCOM Powerstreamer laeuft unter Linux! (Andreas Bartelt)

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From: [email-masked] (LMRusu)
Subject: Tape Drive (Trakker) / ZModem
Date: 13 Sep 93 05:07:39 GMT

Hi,
I'm using Linux from SLS 1.03 package (It's great!!!) and I have 2 
questions about it:

1. I have a 250M Colorado Trakker tape backup drive that plugs into a  
parallel port. Can I somehow use this drive with Linux and if yes how? 
I'd really like to backup from Linux onto it.

2. I'm logging in my school's computer very often and I'd like to use ZModem
to download and upload files to my account. What comm program should I use
to be able to download with sz? I tried kermit but it takes about 5 times
as long as when I use ZModem with PCPlus for DOS. 

Thank you and I'll post a summary of responses!

L.R
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: [email-masked] (Malcolm Beattie)
Subject: Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:48:52 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Bill Heiser) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
>>>>[email-masked] (Alan Cox) writes:
>>>>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Christoph Maethner) writes:
>>>>>>I don't think I will ever need a 486 , I would perfer more RAM.
>>>Wouldn't this, however, be an argument *for* getting a 486?  I am just
>>>wondering, as I have heard that UNIX on a 486 should conceivably run
>>>better because the 486's hardware, especially if it has a local bus,
>>No matter how fast the drive and controller, RAM will always be
>>faster.
>
>I ran a Unix SVR3 on a 386/25.  I then upgraded the machine to a
>486/33.  Overall system performance was *twice* as fast (using the
>same peripherals) with the 486 machine than on the 386.

That's because of the difference in clock speeds. A rule of
thumb is that at a given clock speed a 486 is about 1/3 faster
than a 386, and that performance increases roughly linearly
(very, very roughly) in this range of clock speeds.
Comparing your 386/25 with your 486/33 you can see where the
factor of two comes from. The usual "386 v 486" question
centres on the comparison of a 386/40 with a 486/33.

--Malcolm

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Oxford University Computing Services      | I'm a kernel hacker's mate
13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.)   | And I'm only hacking kernels
Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275   | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late

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From: [email-masked] (Andreas Bartelt)
Subject: ESCOM Powerstreamer laeuft unter Linux!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 09:57:34 GMT

Hallo!

Da hier in letzter Zeit ueber den ESCOM Powerstreamer und Linux
spekuliert wurde, hier eine Erfolgsmeldung:

Ich habe den genannten QIC-80 Streamer mit ftape-9.6 und
dem Linux Kernel 0.99pl12 erfolgreich installiert.

Mit 'tar' konnte ich eben eine Datei sowohl auf Band schreiben, alsauch
zurueckladen! Ein ueberpruefen mit 'diff' ergab keine Fehler.

Ich will noch nichts zur Zuverlaessigkeit sagen, aber bei der Reife die
das Paket erreicht hat, gibt es kein zurueck mehr! :)

Happy streaming, 
                    Andreas

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From: [email-masked] (Demetrius Dracopoulos)
Subject: Drivers for Colorado, IOMEGA tape streamers?
Date: 13 Sep 1993 12:33:18 +0100

Hello,

Does anybody know if there are available drivers for the Colorado, and /or 
IOMega tape streamers?

Many Thanks

Dimitri

--
Dimitri Dracopoulos
Dept. of Computing
Imperial College
180 Queens Gate
London SW7 2BZ
UK

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From: [email-masked] (Rainer Kirsch)
Subject: What about a new numbering for Linux?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:55:58 GMT

Hello Linux developers and friends!

I am shure, that it is time for a change with the Linux numbering system.
Everyone, who really knows Linux, knows that it is an experimental system.
Keeping this in mind, there is no reason to avoid numbers greater than 1.00.
I think the best way of a change would be to skip off the redundant 0.99.
e.g:
Linux 0.99p12 would change to Linux 12.0 

This change would also stop the need (if there was really one) of several 
versions having the same name (like under Linux 0.99p12)

Many thanks to all developers of Linux!
Rainer Kirsch
Technical University of Vienna,Austria,Europe 

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From: [email-masked] (Matt McLeod)
Subject: Re: Setting up an Address.
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 15:26:46 GMT

Paul Trouton ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I am running Linux at home on a 486. I have access through work to Email and Internet
: News. I love these two services very much and am afraid of loosing them if I changed my job. For this reason I am considering buying a modem and working from home. My idea
: is this. If I was allowed to keep my account at work, could I forward my mail and news to home. Should I do this by simply downloading mail etc at night, or would it be better to put in a line, with a modem and keep it on line.

: Is there such a thing as a modem that I can leave on and that will store Email and other info, without the computer having to be on.

: Could you reccommend a modem for use with linux at home. I need Email and internet services.

: Can I get an internet number for use with FTP? is it costly? is it possible?

: Can my account in work forward News to my home address? Or will I have to log into work and read news online?

: If I loose my account in work, where else can I log onto to get access to internet News without having to pay a fortune for the service.

: In Brief I want help on what hardware and software I need to be able to use FTP, EMAIL and Internet News facilities at home. 

If you want the works, then you'd need to set up an IP connection of some sort
onto the net.  This would probably mean running SL/IP.  I not familiar with
the state of the net in the UK, but here in Australia it is pretty restricted,
and a true IP connect is impossible unless you're with one of the Universities.

If what you really want is just mail/news, consider setting up uucp.  Everything
you need comes with SLS, and it's a damned sight cheaper to run...

Matt

: Thanks in advance Paul...

-- 
Matt McLeod
Bob-Fearing Freelance Writer
[email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS?
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:15:46 GMT

[email-masked] (Malcolm Beattie) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Bill Heiser) writes:
>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Michael L. VanLoon) writes:
>>>>>[email-masked] (Alan Cox) writes:
>>>>>>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Christoph Maethner) writes:
>>>>>>>I don't think I will ever need a 486 , I would perfer more RAM.
>>>>Wouldn't this, however, be an argument *for* getting a 486?  I am just
>>>>wondering, as I have heard that UNIX on a 486 should conceivably run
>>>>better because the 486's hardware, especially if it has a local bus,
>>>No matter how fast the drive and controller, RAM will always be
>>>faster.
>>
>>I ran a Unix SVR3 on a 386/25.  I then upgraded the machine to a
>>486/33.  Overall system performance was *twice* as fast (using the
>>same peripherals) with the 486 machine than on the 386.

>That's because of the difference in clock speeds. A rule of
>thumb is that at a given clock speed a 486 is about 1/3 faster
>than a 386, and that performance increases roughly linearly
>(very, very roughly) in this range of clock speeds.
>Comparing your 386/25 with your 486/33 you can see where the
>factor of two comes from. The usual "386 v 486" question
>centres on the comparison of a 386/40 with a 486/33.

You also forgot that his 386 had no math processor and the 486 does.

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  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | [email-masked]   .uucp |
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From: [email-masked] (Byron C. Howes)
Subject: Re: Microsoft bus mouse problems in X - SLS 1.01 (0.99p9)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 13:23:23 GMT

-=> Quoting Kurt Hildebrant to All <=-

KH> From: [email-masked] (Kurt Hildebrant)
KH> Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association; Dayton OH
KH> I am experiencing problems getting X up on my 486/50.
KH> Using SLS 1.01 (Linux 0.99p9), 8 meg RAM, 212 meg HD, Trident 1 meg
KH> video card, Microsoft bus mouse. The mouse works fine in DOS.
KH> /dev/mouse points to the correct bus mouse driver and Xconfig is set
KH> up for the bus mouse, but X pukes and says that it can't open the
KH> mouse. 
KH> Is there a problem using Microsoft bus mouse ? Should I switch to a
KH> COMx mouse ? Thanks for any help.

First make sure you have the right IRQ.  If your mouse uses IRQ 2, set the
mouse IRQ in busmouse.h to IRQ 9.  (Don't ask.  I'm not sure I understand
it all either.)  While you're at it, to save time.  Set the mouse IRQ for
the inport mouse support (atixlmouse.c?) to IRQ 9 as well.

Configure linux to have both INport and busmouse support.

Now, using the mouse tester, try all combinations of drivers and
configured devices.  My mouse finally responded reasonably to the inport
device and the MMseries software.  Go figure. I thought I had a busmouse too.

--Byron

-- 
Byron C. Howes                      Computer Systems Manager
[email-masked]                  UNC Educational Computing Service

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From: [email-masked] (Charles Blair)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux?
Date: 13 Sep 1993 13:52:00 GMT

   I have barely begun using the gnu Calc program.  It does arbitrary precision
arithmetic, and claims to have stuff like matrix inversion and some kind of
integrals (I think both definite and indefinite), along with many other things.

  I found installing challenging.  I think I had to rename a .el
file as .elc before it would work.

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From: [email-masked] (Joeri van Ruth)
Subject: Re: SuperUser <s>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 14:20:55 GMT

[email-masked] (Eric Jacobsen) writes:

>       I am a new Linux user, and I made a mistake which caused my "root"
>user to never be able to log back in.  I finally reinstalled the operating
>system.  Is there a way to create multiple SuperUsers?

It's always a good idea to keep the a1.3 disk around (assuming you
installed SLS).  You could have booted it, mounted your
linuxpartition, and repared the rootacount.

Joeri

-- 

--
Joeri van Ruth   | We don't want to go back to tomorrow, we want to go forward
[email-masked]  |                                  --- Dan Quayle

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From: [email-masked] (Roy Davis)
Subject: Mice
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 14:37:09 GMT

Hi all,

Has anyone gotten a logitech trackman to work with Xwindows?  The docs say
that your basically screwed if you use one but has anyone tried to write a
patch to get it to work?  I'm rather fond of my track ball and would hate
to have to get another mouse just for Xwindows.

                                        - Roy

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From: [email-masked] (Michael S Finger-1)
Subject: Network unreachable under new slackware
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:23:22 GMT

Last tuesday, I installed the new version of Slackware via NFS.  My network
stuff doesn't work when I boot off of my hard drive, but works fine booting off
of the original disk one with the same rc.inet1 setup.  I have even tried 
regenerating the kernal.  Here is my rc.inet1:

>> #! /bin/sh
>> 
>>   HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
>> 
>>   # Attach the loopback device.
>>   /etc/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
>>   /etc/route add 127.0.0.1
>> 
>>   IPADDR="138.64.49.60"
>>   NETMASK="255.255.252.0"
>>   NETWORK="138.64.48.0"
>>   BROADCAST="138.64.48.255"
>>   GATEWAY="138.64.48.100"
>> 
>>   /etc/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} up -trailers
>> 
>>   /etc/route add ${NETWORK} 
>>   /etc/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
>>   /etc/route add ${IPADDR}
>> 

If it matters here is my rc.local as well:

>> /usr/bin/setterm -blank 10
>> 
>> if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 ]; 
>>     then
>>      /bin/hostname -S escort.atk.com
>>      /bin/sh /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1
>>      /bin/sh /etc/rc.d/rc.inet2
>>     else
>>      /etc/old.hostname escort.atk.com
>> fi
>> 
>> if [ -x /etc/clock ]; then
>>      /etc/clock -s
>> fi
>> 
>> if [ -x /etc/syslogd ]; then
>>      syslogd  # turn on logging of su's, logins etc.
>> fi
>> 
>> if [ -x /etc/syslogk ]; then
>>      syslogk on > /usr/log/kernel&  # log all kernel messages.
>> fi

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Mike Finger

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From: [email-masked] (Derrick Cole)
Subject: Re: gcc is swapping to disk all the time!
Date: 13 Sep 1993 15:35:54 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (manuel Toledo-Quinones) writes:
>
>Hi!
>I just sucessfully installed linux in my pc. Thinks seem to be working
>well. However, when I tried to compile a program using gcc, the compiler
>starts swaping to disk and takes forever (10min+; actaully I abort the
>compilation because it was taking too long). The source code for the
>program takes about 60kbytes of disk space, and my computer have 4Mbytes
>of memory. I compiled the same source using djgpp under dos without
>problems.
>
>Is this situation normal, or do you think something is wrong in the
>setup? Can I do something to improve the situation? Any help will be 
>greatly appreciated.

I'll have a lash!

First thing I'd ask:  Do you have a swap-space, either partition or file,
created (mkswap ...) and enabled (swapon -a)?

Derrick

-- 
Limbaugh Watch for Monday September 13, 1993:
- Day 237 (257 if Rich/Dead) of "America Held Hostage" (aka the "Raw Deal")
- The Election was 315 days ago
- 1224 days remain

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From: [email-masked] (Derrick Cole)
Subject: Re: SLS wont mount /proc
Date: 13 Sep 1993 15:38:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Scarrow) writes:
>
>Also, add a line for the swap partition if you have one.  For example (from
>memory):
>
>/dev/sda2      none    swap    defaults

I thought it was

/dev/whatever   none    swap    sw

Or has it evolved?

Derrick

-- 
Limbaugh Watch for Monday September 13, 1993:
- Day 237 (257 if Rich/Dead) of "America Held Hostage" (aka the "Raw Deal")
- The Election was 315 days ago
- 1224 days remain

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From: [email-masked] (Michael S Finger-1)
Subject: Re: Linux broke my computer!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:51:23 GMT

It may be that your setup configureation got hosed.  Try rebooting and enter
your hardware setup program (Usaully pressing <DEL> or <F2> or somthing during
boot)  and make sure that your floppiesa re set up correctly.

I hope that fixes you floppy problem.

-Mike

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From: [email-masked] (Scott D. Heavner)
Subject: Re: S3 Video Chipset/Swapping Problems
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:44:51 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

John "Mr_Muppet" Gonyo ([email-masked]) wrote:

> And for the swapping problem:
> I've got a 486-66 w/ 16mb RAM and a 5mb SWAP partition.  I had a background
> script logging the /proc/meminfo every 5 seconds while I ran X and
> loaded it up with those goofy games and whatnot. Eventually, no more windows
> could be opened, and upon returning to the shell, I noticed that
> ram used was near 16mb, while swap used was 0!!  It says that there is
> 5megs of swap, 0 used, 5megs free!  Why doesn't it use the swap device?
> (Yes, it's mounted from fstab)

        Did you figure out why no more windows could be opened?  There
are a few reasons I can think of:

        1) You're out of pty's -- I think there are only 16 for Linux
           and no one ever answers questions on how to increase them.

        2) You're out of processes.  64 is the max number the standard
           Linux distribution can have open.  I think this can be
           adjusted with NR_TASKS in include/linux/tasks.h and
           recompiling the kernel.  (There might be other things
           to do, so search the archives or repost for instructions).

Other things that may not be as you think:

        3) You didn't install the swap correctly.  It's not mounted,
           but swapon'ed.  A command 'swapon -a' will activate all
           the swap files in /etc/fstab.  Check this with free, which 
           should report something like (this is the kmem free)

              size       used      cache       free     shared
memory:      15284       3748      10832        704       2540
swap0:       10396          0                 10396          0
total:       25680       3748      10832      11100       2540

        4) You're reading used and free space wrong.  (Kmem) Used is the
           measure of how much is used by the processes.  Free really 
           includes the memory allocated to cache (which can be used by more
           processes).  Below is what /proc/meminfo says which matches
           the above free command.  You have to subtract buffers from 
           the used to get the amount used by the processes.

        total:   used:    free:   shared:  buffers:
Mem:  15650816 14934016   716800  2592768 10547200
Swap: 10645504        0 10645504

           So in reality: 

             Kmem free space = size - used
             Proc free space = total - ( used - buffers)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.help,comp.os.linux
From: [email-masked] (Bob Myers)
Subject: x/y/z-modem transmission problems; ever fixed???
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:36:22 GMT

I've been trying to get these transfer protocols to work on my .99.p11 system
at home.  So far, after recompiling the rzsz9202.tar-z/dff source and installing,
I see a number of errors when transmitting, but no errors when receiving.  this
holds true for zmodem and y-modem batch.

I can use kermit to transfer files, along with the normal uucico mechanism.  However,
trying to run a bbs software package makes these others a necessity to be working.

Can anyone who has these working tell me what they did?  I'd greatly
appreciate it.

-bob

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From: [email-masked] (Willie Lim)
Subject: UUCP uid (was: UUCP on SLS 1.03)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 16:51:21 GMT

After some experimenting I found out the root of my Linux UUCP
problem.  It seems that ownership of the UUCP files (in /usr/lib/uucp,
especially) has to be set to uid 11, the default uid set by Linux
during installation.  (Uid 11 is not in the installed passwd or group
files.)  I was setting the ownership to "uucp" (uid = 5, I think)
which should work but I think that I may have to set (haven't tried
this yet!) the ownership of several of the UUCp executables, (e.g. cu,
uuname, etc. in /usr/bin), from uid 11 to "uucp" too.  After setting
the ownership, I could uucico to download and upload mail to a remote
UUCP host via cron.  Smail mail conversion to C.* and D.* files works
like mint and so does uugetty for dial-outs.

However there are still some workarounds needed:
1) I have to use -x with a level of 2 and above to get uucico to
   actually dial out.  If I don't use -x or use -x1, the modem will
   not dial out even though two lights on Hayes Smartmodem (forgot the
   names for the lights but it is the 3rd and 4th lights from the
   right).  Interestingly they are the same set of lights that flicker
   a lot when I don't use the -r flag for getty or uugetty for the 
   modem line (cua1).
2) I have to occassionally delete the audit.local file otherwise
   uucico will not dial out.  I don't know why.  Perhaps it has
   something to do with the file size???

Other than that UUCP mail works fine.  I'll try out the news
capability later.

Willie

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From: [email-masked] (Willie Lim)
Subject: Auto-answer with uugetty or getty
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 16:57:54 GMT

I am having problems dialing in to my Linux SLS 1.03 machine.  The
modem (on cua1 with "uugetty -r" or "getty -r") would answer but I
don't get the system to respond; no prompt no nothing.  I tried
creating /etc/default/getty.modem and /etc/default/uugetty.modem so
that the getty.log doesn't complain about missing default file for
modem.  I also tried changing the "next" labels /etc/gettydefs to
cycle through the various modem speeds (originally they cycle through
themselves e.g. 2400 back to 2400).  But to no avail.

Any suggestion on what needs to be set to get dial in to work on my
SLS 1.03 machine?

Willie

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From: [email-masked] (manuel Toledo-Quinones)
Subject: Can a VGA monitor be connected to ...
Date: 13 Sep 1993 16:52:21 GMT

a SVGA card, and then used in 600x800 res. mode to run X with colors? This
is probably a stupid idea, because I don't know if the pin def./connector
is compatible between SVGA and VGA. But still it would be a very inexpensive
way of upgrading to color.
Any comments?
Thanks,
manuel

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From: [email-masked] (Andreas Bartelt)
Subject: Re: ESCOM Powerstreamer laeuft unter Linux!
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 15:36:48 GMT

[email-masked] (Andreas Bartelt) writes:

I'am really sorry. This article should have been posted to 
de.comp.os.linux not to comp.os.linux. 

Bye,
      Andreas

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