Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #237
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 04:13:12 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #237, Volume #6           Fri, 17 Sep 93 04:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Auto-answer with uugetty or getty (Gert Doering)
  installation / using mke2fs with the SLS release (CHARLES C WIGHT)
  Modula-3 wanted! (Markus Fleck)
  Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk (Robert Cooper)
  X and Slackware 1.0.3? (Robert Cooper)
  72 pin SIMMS and other stuff (Steve Mays)
  dip w/0.99pl11 ([email-masked])
  Re: Making a filesystem larger than 64mb? (Byron A Jeff)
  mount a 1.72mb FD (MING HE)
  [Need Help] Making a boot floppy for IBM VP (Woloschuk David R)
  DIP(SLIP) | CanNot recognise modem??? (nilesh patel)
  Cornerstone CVC-2 question (Curtis Yarvin)
  Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing (Theodore Ts'o)
  Re: Port respawning too fast (Theodore Ts'o)
  Re: X and Slackware 1.0.3? (Geoffrey Warren Hicks)
  Re: DOSEMU - new-user-type questions (LONG) (Mark Cosham)
  Re: Modula-3 wanted! (Mike Elliott)

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From: [email-masked] (Gert Doering)
Subject: Re: Auto-answer with uugetty or getty
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 13:05:46 GMT

[email-masked] (Willie Lim) writes:

>Any suggestion on what needs to be set to get dial in to work on my
>SLS 1.03 machine?

Use "mgetty" from the "mgetty+sendfax" package. It has been written
especially for use with "smart" modems and offers extensive logging to
nail down problems.

Unfortunately, the configuration is not yet very sophisticated, you
have to do most of it in the source...

gert
-- 
... ich kann diese signature nicht mehr sehen!

Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             [email-masked]
fax: +49-89-3243328                         [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (CHARLES C WIGHT)
Subject: installation / using mke2fs with the SLS release
Date: 16 Sep 1993 20:00:03 -0400

Hello,

I am completely new to both Linux and Unix in general, so be patient.
I have been playing with Linux for the last couple of weeks and have managed to get the minimal system installed on its own partion on the drive.  However, I don't seem to have the proper file system installed.  I ran mke2fs when I installed the system, but when I boot (from disk), I get a message saying that I shouuld run such and such a utility, similar to the mke... stuff.  I need to know what switches I should run with this command in order to make the file system correct.   Also, if I use the p command in fdisk, I am informed that I have a Linux/Minix file system.  Is this correct when an alternative file system should be there?  Also, if anyone could give me more detailed instructions on how to get X windows up an running than is available on the install... at sunsite, I would greatly appreciate it.

Please send responses to [email-masked]

Thanks, 
chap

BTW-- any installation and getting started hints would be appreciated as I have not made too much progress!

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 21:14:00 +0200
From: [email-masked] (Markus Fleck)
Subject: Modula-3 wanted!

Hi,

I'm looking for a MODULA-3 (that's _no_ spelling mistake!)
compiler for Linux. I've seen something like that on a
unix source code CD ROM some time ago (I believe it was
a GNU version). Has MODULA-3 been ported to Linux? Is
the GNU MODULA-3 compiler rather a "to-C" translator?

Thanks in advance,

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Cooper)
Subject: Re: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 00:27:35 GMT

[email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes:

>In a previous article, [email-masked] (Peter Berger) says:
>>
>>What I'm interested in now, is what fdisk is this? (I mean from
>>what package? So I can avoid ever trying this version...).
>>

>First of all, I have not had the problem you describe. The fdisk used on
>the Slackware bootdisk is one I compiled from the latest sources in
>/pub/linux/sources/sbin on tsx-11.mit.edu. It is version 1.4, and is
>newer than the ones I've seen with SLS (I think it uses fdisk 1.1
>alpha). 

>Have other people experienced trouble with this version of fdisk?

        Well I don't know if this is an fdisk problem or a mke2fs
        problem, but after creating partitions greater than 70MB
        I was unable to format them, kept saying can't find block
        for inode table....

                                                Rob....

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Robert Cooper, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia   [email-masked]

       .....Discoveries are not made by following instructions.....

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Cooper)
Subject: X and Slackware 1.0.3?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 00:31:39 GMT

        Has anyone else had trouble with XFree86 that came
        with the latest Slackware release??

        I have an ET4000, Logitech mouse and 486 DX 33.

        I have configured X for 800x600 256 colours with a
        virtual screen of 1024x768.  After using it for
        about 10 to 20 minutes, the whole system freezes
        requiring a hard reset.

        This is with the latest xbase etc that were put out
        16/9.

                                                Rob....

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Robert Cooper, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia   [email-masked]

       .....Discoveries are not made by following instructions.....

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Mays)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: 72 pin SIMMS and other stuff
Date: 17 Sep 1993 01:31:41 GMT

I am about to purchase a machine which I will run Linux on as well as 
DOS games.  Here are a few questions I have been compiling:

1) MotherBoards. There are many brands out there, with Micronics being 
the "best" (so I have been told). WHat is the advantage of buying these 
$400 vs $100 2 VESA 6 ISA MB's?
I am currently considering the Cache computers MB, and the Micronics.
(Cache is about $100 cheaper)

2) Memory. The Micronics uses 72-pin SIMMS vs. the 30-pin SIMMS in the 
Cache Computers board.  Is there any advantage to the 72-pin SIMMS?
(30-pin SIMMS save me about $100 over 72-pin.)

3) SCSI-2 ISA vs IDE vs VESA-LB. I am thinking about getting an ISA 
Adaptec 1542c SCSI-2 controller, and 877M 12ms/5M per sec Micropolis 
drive ($700!). Which is the best way to go? ISA SCSI-2, VLB BusLogic 
SCSI-2, ISA IDE, or VLB IDE? I have heard some things that say that 
putting 2 VLB cards in a system can slow it down considerably.

4) Video Cards....I am currently considering the ATI Graphics Ultra 
Pro w/2M and its Mach32 accelerator chip; It will be VLB as well.
Is this one of the best cards to get; also will this in combination 
with a VLB SCSI-2 controller slow down my system a WHOLE LOT?

5) BusMastering VLB. Is this a necessity? Would I see a noticeable 
speed increase? How about ISA BusMastering? Is this doing the same 
thing?

Thanks
-- 
                        ---->Steve Mays<----
Systems Administrator                                   [email-masked]
Center for Env. Reseach and Tech.                       [email-masked]
Univ. of Cal, Riverside                                 MaBellNet:(909)781-5788

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: dip w/0.99pl11
Date: 16 Sep 1993 22:07:36 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hello.. has anybody made dip work as a dial in server? I haven't been able
to do it and here's what I tried:

added user slip
gave slip a passwd
edited passwd file and changed home directory to /tmp and login shell
    as /usr/bin/ds   -> more on ds in a second
edited /etc/diphosts: added a line thusly
    slip::home.lab.r1.usfws.gov:HOME:SLIP,256
edited /etc/inet/named.hosts to include home.lab.r1.usfws.gov as
   164.159.2.2
edited /etc/hosts and added same address

Net-guide said that you couldn't use "dip -i" as the login script because
login won't pass the -i. So I created a shell script which I called ds.
#!/bin/bash
dip -i

The guide suggested to write a small c program to use system("dip -i"), but
I don't know how to use the compiler yet. [I know I can write the program!]

Here's what happens:

I call using JNOS's tip (tip is just a dumb terminal mode). The modems
connect and I get the login prompt. I enter slip as the username and
give it the password. The login message appears and the line goes into
the RAW mode. I can see data being sent to the LINUX modem because the RX
light flickers.

When I try to start a telnet session with linux using JNOS. Nothing happens.

I've looked at the routing table and there is not an entry for sl0. According
to the dip man page, after dip is activated and sets the terminal line 
to the RAW mode, it's supposed to ask the network layer to set up a
route in the route table.

I've tried using ifconfig 164.159.2.2 sl0, but it won't allow me to configure
a line that's not active. 

Got any good ideas?

I've read the net-guide, serial-faq and the various man pages....
Thanks a lot!
Stu

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Making a filesystem larger than 64mb?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 02:51:00 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Morten Krog <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>How do I use mke2fs to create a filesystem larger than 64mb. I want to have
>a partition on my harddisk (size 75mb) installed with Linux, but I cannot
>format the partition. As I read the doc, mkfs is unable to do this but
>mke2fs should be able. I don't have mkefs so don't suggest that I use that.
>PLEASE help. Any help will be appriciated.

# mke2fs -c /dev/hda1 75000

should do the trick. Of course substitute the proper device and the proper #
of blocks for 75000.

The only thing that I can think of to prompt the question is that the old fdisk
complains about partitions over 64M. You can of course ignore this.

What exactly happens when you try to format the disk?

BAJ
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (MING HE)
Subject: mount a 1.72mb FD
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 03:28:32 GMT

Before I had mounted a 1.72 mb FD.  I remember I can't mtools a 1.72mb
FD.

But now I can't do it.  Why?  Anyway, Can I mount a 1.72 mb FD?

/ming

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From: [email-masked] (Woloschuk David R)
Subject: [Need Help] Making a boot floppy for IBM VP
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 21:12:21 GMT

I'd like to create a disk that would allow me to boot off a floppy and mount
my /dev/hda3 as the root partition using my newly compiled kernel.

Ideally, what I'd like is that if there is no floppy in the drive, my
computer starts up and runs OS2.  When I wish to run linux, I'd like to
insert a floppy that either boots to /dev/hda3 ( my linux partition ) and
uses the kernel image on /dev/hda3 or just boots the new kernel off disk 
and mounts /dev/hda3 as root

The problem is, that I have an IBM VP which needs a bit of help to boot
( ie. from lilo, I must type at the boot prompt:
       BOOT: harddisk root=/dev/hda3 hd=966,16,31)
and because of this, the "make zdisk" does not appear to work...

I have  checked the LILO docs, and tried to follow the instructions but it 
didn't work ( the specigfic command was something like 
        echo run image=<zimage> | dd if= .....

Can anyone e-mail help?

Please?

Pretty Please?
=======================
David Woloschuk

[email-masked]

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Subject: DIP(SLIP) | CanNot recognise modem???
From: gujya@lilac (nilesh patel)
Date: 16 Sep 93 14:09:38 EST

        I have installed dip on my linux machine. I followed the
        instructions in the NET-2-HOWTO. 

        The problem is that, when I start dip in -t  mode, It does not
        recognise the modem. i.e. No light on the modem flickers
        or dialtone sounds etc. 

        I can use the same modem on same port by kermit and it respponds
        by emitting dialing sounds etc.

        Here, I have attached the session transcript. 

        Can Anybody Help??

# dip -t
DIP: Dialup IP Protocol Driver version 3.2.2
Written by Fred N. van Kempen, MicroWalt Corporation.

DIP> port /dev/cua0
DIP> speed 2400
DIP> reset
DIP> send att\r\n
DIP> dial 4780
DIP> term
[ Entering TERMINAL mode.  Use CTRL-] to get back ]
Killed
# 

        After I kill the process, I have some difficulty in using kermit.

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From: [email-masked] (Curtis Yarvin)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Cornerstone CVC-2 question
Date: 17 Sep 1993 04:43:59 GMT

I'm trying to port X mfb to the Cornerstone CVC-2
DualPage, and I have a question: has anyone else
ever gotten the CVC linear mode to work?  Or is it
just a documented un-feature?

Curtis
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing
Date: 17 Sep 1993 01:12:01 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)

   From: [email-masked] (Vince Skahan)
   Date: 14 Sep 1993 18:29:23 -0700

   please do not include the garbage noise from c.o.l.* on the same
   CD that has all the fine software you'll be mirroring from the
   Linux archive sites.  If you want to make a 100% noise CD of
   c.o.l. postings, feel free to make a separate CD for it.

   You'll have my order in a heartbeat after the Nov/Dec CD is available
   unless it's all full with USENET postings. I'd be real interested
   in getting (yes, paying for) a CD mirror of the archives however.
   But not if the USENET noise is on the linux archive CD...

The complete c.o.l.* usenet postings for the entire history of Linux
fits in under 45 megabytes.  Given how big a CD-ROM is (~800 meg), this
is a small fraction of space available.  In fact, many CD-ROM which are
published are not filled to capacity, so it's not like including them
would necessarily be crowding anything else out.

If you think the Usenet postings are noise, ignore them.  But there are
some jems hidden in there.  Some people may be interested in access them
for reference purposes.

                                                - Ted

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From: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Port respawning too fast
Date: 17 Sep 1993 01:14:18 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)

   From: [email-masked] (Simon J Ferrett)
   Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 18:33:24 GMT

   yes I had this exact problem, which is caused when the serial port 
   is hung up by getty, it drops the DTR (which, since its a null modem), 
   drops carrier) and gived getty a HUP causing it to quit.

   I got around this my slightly modifying serial.c so that it didnt ever
   hang up a serial port.  (no hardware of mine needs it)

You don't need to modify the kernel.  All you need to do is configure
your getty program to set the CLOCAL flag.  Then the serial driver will
ignore DTR.

                                                        - Ted

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From: [email-masked] (Geoffrey Warren Hicks)
Subject: Re: X and Slackware 1.0.3?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 06:37:39 GMT

Posted on behalf of a friend who does not have net access
=========================================================

[email-masked] (Robert Cooper) writes:

>       Has anyone else had trouble with XFree86 that came
>       with the latest Slackware release??

Yes!!!

>       I have an ET4000, Logitech mouse and 486 DX 33.

I also have an Et4000 and a Logitech (bus) mouse, but a 386dx40

>       I have configured X for 800x600 256 colours with a
>       virtual screen of 1024x768.  After using it for
>       about 10 to 20 minutes, the whole system freezes
>       requiring a hard reset.

I don't think I have this problem (then again, I haven't run X for
20 minutes yet!!) My problem is that switching between virtual consoles
or exiting the server causes the video output to go into some weird text
mode that rolls the screen and is filled with "smiley" characters. Going
back to the graphic console displays a crapped out graphics screen. Exiting
the server and restarting it (blind!) restores the graphic screen, but the
same behaviour ensues when you switch/exit.
  But sometimes, it doesn't do this.

  I think the ET4000 driver has a few problems, although XFree86 1.2 from the
SLS was used for approx six months with no problems.

  I've mailed [email-masked] but have yet to get an answer.

  Any ideas, anyone?

        Craig Southeren

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Cosham)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU - new-user-type questions (LONG)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 00:23:49 GMT

[email-masked] (Chip Gregory) writes:

>I am running SLS 1.03 on a 386 33mh with a trident
>8900c.  I have a 125 mb hardrive configured as c:,
>a 1.44 mb 3" as a:, and a 5" as b:.  The hardrive is
>partitioned as 32 mb DOS as hda1, 8mb swap as hda2,
>and the rest as hda3 (ext2).  I boot native DOS (5.0)
>from c:.  I boot linux from a:.  I am NOT using LILO.

>Notes/Questions:

>1.) I first configured DOSEMU to run from an "hdimage"
>file.  I did not like having my DOS partition as drive D.
>I then configured it to run from a "diskimage" file.
>My disk image is drive A, I skipped my 3 inch, my 5 inch 
>is drive B, my DOS partition is drive C (EMU), and my
>linux / is drive D (EMU).

>Any way to boot DOSEMU and keep a: as a:, b: as b:, etc.?
Either boot from the hard disk for DOS, or use a program like stacker's
sswap, or creative use of the DOS subst command with a hdimage boot.

>2.) Quicken 6.0 fails when I start it up.  I found that if
>I start it as "q > q.msg" it comes up ok.  Quicken wants to
>remind me to do backups and this messages seems to cause
>problems for DOSEMU.  The Quicken graphs are close - with
>the labels a little screwed up.  I have NOT tried to work on
>graphics parameters.  I specified "trident and 1024" in the
>config.  I also got XMS to work and am loading everything high
>(DOS, doskey, and mouse).  EMS gave me an error "Can not set
>line A20" or something like that.

The only way to have EMS is to let DOSEMU supply it - it works fine.
Edit the /etc/dosemu/config file.

>Recommendation of XMS versus EMS?
>Ideas on EMS error about line A20?

>3.) DOS edit doesn't work.  It comes up.  I can type stuff
>in the edit area, but when I pull down a menu, a get a DOSEMU
>debug message "ERROR:  InsKeyboard could not put key in buffer". 

It is well known that dos's EDIT doesn't work - use another editor.

>???

>4.) Telix came up, initialized my modem, and I dialed myself
>on the phone and properly registered a busy signal.  After I
>exited Telix, it seemed my keyboard buffer was screwed up.
>Almost as if "local echo" stayed on - very strange.

>Any ideas?

>5.) Automap (a very detailed graphic depiction of the US with
>roads, geographical highlights, etc.) worked well.  It was very
>slow, but everything seemed ok, including the mouse, (it must have
>it's own mouse driver).

I've found graphics rather slow under DOSEMU too. (I've got a tgva8900c
too).

>6.) I do not understand the mouse or the ports parameters.  I
>know the doc says that the mouse doesn't work. I tried the MS
>mouse driver, and it could not find the mouse.  I tried the Artec
>driver, and it loaded, but I do not think it actually loaded
>properly.  I ran the Artec test program and screams came out of
>the speaker but no mouse activity.

You need to make sure that you've set up the mouse in the
/etc/dosemu/config file.  It does appear to work, but apparently, it's
not reliable.

>???

>Thanks in advance,
>- Chip

Mark Cosham
(486DX33, 8Mb ram, 1Mb tvga8900c, ~10Mb swap space)

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Subject: Re: Modula-3 wanted!
From: [email-masked] (Mike Elliott)
Date: 17 Sep 1993 07:13:04 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Markus Fleck) writes:

   I'm looking for a MODULA-3 (that's _no_ spelling mistake!)
   compiler for Linux. I've seen something like that on a
   unix source code CD ROM some time ago (I believe it was
   a GNU version). Has MODULA-3 been ported to Linux? 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not in a released version.  DEC-SRC is using Linux as a platform for their
version 3.0 compiler.

   Is the GNU MODULA-3 compiler rather a "to-C" translator?
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, it is, as is the SRC version 3.0 compiler.

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