Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #240
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 93 16:13:08 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #240, Volume #6           Sat, 18 Sep 93 16:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Fourport support for PL12 (Theodore Ts'o)
  Re: .openwin-init doesn't work (David E. Wexelblat)
  Can't open tty error on serial login (Thomas J Bilan)
  Re: Port respawning too fast (Simon J Ferrett)
  Re: strange unix socket behaviour (term gurus read too pls) (Simon J Ferrett)
  Linux, BUS Mouse, IRQ problem...Help??? (Kwasi Mireku)
  FTP (Charles E Newman)
  Re: Firewall FAQ? (GU)
  ET4000/W32 drivers for Linux? ([email-masked])
  Spreadsheet (Massimo Boninsegni)
  Wanted: Simple Term for Linux ([email-masked])
  Re: Spreadsheet (Jon Hamilton)
  Re: Mathmatica like package for linux? (David Maxwell)
  I need HP LJ III filter (Tony Cifelli)
  I need a Xserver and Xconfig for ATI Graphics Ultra Plus (Tony Cifelli)
  Re: Wanted: Simple Term for Linux (Rich Mulvey)
  Re: FTP (Toby Chappell)
  Re: Teac CD-ROM recognition (Gregg Brekke)

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From: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Fourport support for PL12
Date: 18 Sep 1993 01:02:18 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Theodore Ts'o)

   From: [email-masked] (Claude Ackad)
   Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 13:28:22 GMT

   Does the fourport support (AST fourport card) exist for the
   kernel 099PL12? What are the right settings for the kernel?
   Thanx for any hints.

Yes; from the INFO-SHEET:

0.3.3 Supported hardware:

        Other hardware: SoundBlaster, ProAudio Spectrum 16, Gravis 
        Ultrasound, AST Fourport cards (with 4 serial ports), several 
        models of Boca serial boards, the Usenet Serial Card II, several 
        flavours of bus mice (Microsoft, Logitech, PS/2). 

You will need the setserial version 2.01 to get the AST Fourport serial
ports to be configured (in /linux/sources/sbin on tsx-11.mit.edu).
Configure the AST Fourport cards in enhanced mode, not in compatible
mode, and use separate IRQ's if you have two Fourport cards --- although
the Fourport docs claims that two Fourport cards can share an IRQ, I've
never seen it work.  I generally use IRQ 5 and IRQ 2 for my two AST
Fourport cards.

                                                - Ted

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From: [email-masked] (David E. Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: .openwin-init doesn't work
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 03:32:42 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
>       "XFreeB: twice the performance, only requires one extra meg
>       of RAM instead of four, installs as smoothly as basic Linux."
>       "Wow, where do I get it?"
>       "You don't, it's just a nice fantasy."

To which my response is a plain and simple "Eat shit and die."

XFree86 is worth what you paid for it.  When you start coughing up some
money, then, and only then, do you have any right to bitch.  Don't take
our work and heap ridicule on us because it doesn't meet your standards.
If you don't like it, do something about it.

Anyone wanna guess how much of my time and money is spent on doing XFree86
things that are of absolutely no use to me personally?  I've spent at
least a couple thousand dollars on equipment, software, databooks, etc.
I spend 30-50 hours a week, on top of my job, on XFree86.  Most of it
fixing other people's problems, documenting things I already know how
to do, and worrying about configurations I will never see.

On top of this, I'm in the process of changing jobs, moving, AND trying
to keep XFree86 2.0 on track so it actually ships.

I DON'T need this bullshit.

> -- 
> Vaughan Pratt
> (FTPables: boole.stanford.edu:/pub/ABSTRACTS.)

Yes, I know, there are a lot considerate people who are grateful for
what we do.  But this kind of bullshit on top of all the other stress
this project has put me under is NOT something I need to deal with.

--
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AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ  07748

XFree86 requests should be addressed to <[email-masked]>

"Shining, flying, purple wolfhound, show me where you are."
        Yes, "Yours Is No Disgrace"

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: Can't open tty error on serial login
Date: 18 Sep 1993 05:26:18 GMT

I'm getting this error:

'Can't open tty'

when I try to use joe.  It processes the keymap ok and then when it should
draw the screen it produces the above error.

This is on a direct serial link.

My TERM variable is set to vt100.

Any Clues?

Thanks,
Tom Bilan

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From: [email-masked] (Simon J Ferrett)
Subject: Re: Port respawning too fast
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 06:24:25 GMT

[email-masked] (Alan Cox) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Simon J Ferrett) writes:
>>[email-masked] writes:
>>>I can log on, work, then log off, however on my consople I get the message:
>>>Respawning too fast.  Port disabled for 5 minutes
>>>And then 5 minutes later it says the same thine.
>>>Anyone know how I can fix this?  I am using .99pl12.
>>yes I had this exact problem, which is caused when the serial port 
>>is hung up by getty, it drops the DTR (which, since its a null modem), 
>>drops carrier) and gived getty a HUP causing it to quit.
>>I got around this my slightly modifying serial.c so that it didnt ever
>>hang up a serial port.  (no hardware of mine needs it)
>Don't do this! All you need to do is to include CLOCAL in your gettydefs.
>This turns off the carrier detect and hangups in software. Much easier -
>and it works for other Unices too.

yes well I just wish someone had tole me that when I posteed to news
with this same problem ages ago - would have saved me quite some time
and avoided direct modification of the kernel source... saved me from
misguiding poor souls with the same problem..

but not to worry I suppose..

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Simon J Ferrett)
Subject: Re: strange unix socket behaviour (term gurus read too pls)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 06:27:06 GMT

[email-masked] (Alan Cox) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Simon J Ferrett) writes:
>>Hello - I just set up the alpha 13 kernel to see if it would
>>fix up my unix socket weirdness, and it does - but only for a while?
>ALPHA13 now uses NET2E4 which is a pity cos thats even worse than the old
>NET code.
>>just after a reboot I can 'netstat -x' and see the status of all the
>>af_unix connections, however, eventually (after running some term clients
>>usually) doing a 'netstat -x' produces a segmentation fault and a register
>>dump.  The seg fault happens in unix_get_info (from memory).
>Yep I've seen this too. It seems to be once too many sockets build up. I guess
>it passed the 4K internal limit on a /proc file. But it _should_ trap it.
>>The reason Im concerned is that Im trying to modify the ftpd-diku
>>sources to work over a term connection.  It works fine, except that 
>>exenually (sooner or later) the 'connect' system call in terms
>>'open_unix' function catches a SIGCHLD, gets interrupted and the
>>program segfaults.  Under pl13 it takes lonmger for this to happen,
>>but it still does.
>When term spawns a program and that program exits term gets a signal saying
>it has exited. This interrupts the connect and then term breaks. Putting
>a signal(SIGCHLD,SIG_IGN) before the connect sort of seems to work with 0.99.12

yeah i tried all sorts of signal fidling with signal and sigaction, all with
no luck, so eventually I had a hard look at the source and found where there was 
a chance the child would exit before the connect completed and made it so 
it wouldnt exit until the connect was completed - seems to work fine now..

>I can't get the 0.99.13ALPHA up for over 3 minutes so I can't test with that
>(It is an alpha so ...)
>>also - if I put a loop around the connect, so that if it fails, it tries again,
>>it just loops indefinately, trying.
>Once a connect is interrupted the socket seems to end up broken. I've been 
>chasing this with little success.

thats a bit of a worry, cause quite often, my syslogd decides not to work and I have
to restart it, maybe its got a similar sort of problem...

>ALan

thanks for your followup...
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From: [email-masked] (Kwasi Mireku)
Subject: Linux, BUS Mouse, IRQ problem...Help???
Date: 18 Sep 1993 06:26:25 GMT

    I have a slight problem and short of installing SLS all over again I am
seeking suggestions on how to address this problem.
    I installed SLS 1.02 on my gateway VLB-33 a few months ago.  I got everything
up and running after a few agonizing weeks of troubleshooting (finding a Xconfig
that worked with my ATI GUP).  At the time, I had a bus mouse installed using
IRQ 5.
    I recently upgraded my system with an additional hard drive, a fax/modem (int, IRQ-3)
and a sound card (IRQ 5).  My bus mouse has now been relocated to IRQ 4.  I have been able
to get Linux up and running again even though the physical drive it was on became
drive #2.  But Xwindows crashes when I call it up and it appears the hardware change
(from IRQ 5 to IRQ 4 on the bus mouse) is the cause. I do not want to reinstall the
whole package if there is a better way.

***  How do I update the kernel to reflect the hardware change described above?  ***

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From: [email-masked] (Charles E Newman)
Subject: FTP
Date: 16 Sep 93 01:16:02 GMT

          Where is the FTP site at where I can get Linux from?

-Charles E Newman

....well!unicom!moon!uunet!unify!sactoh0!espuma!chuck

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Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: [email-masked] (GU)
Subject: Re: Firewall FAQ?
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 03:51:36 GMT

Mathias Koerber ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Should that happen, I'd like to put a PC-Type machine (Linux?) to handle
:       What software would I need to set up such a thing on a PC running

You only need MS-DOS :-)  Try the following product:

drawbridge-1.1/

Drawbridge is a copyrighted but freely distributable bridging filter.
It uses a PC with two ethernet cards to perform the filtering. It is
composed of three different tools: Filter, Filter Compiler and Filter
Manager. This distribution is version 1.1 which fixes some bugs in the
beta test version 1.0.

Drawbridge is available via anonymous ftp from sc.tamu.edu (128.194.3.57)
in pub/security/drawbridge as two packages:

drawbridge-1.1.tar.Z and drawbridge-1.1-des.tar.Z

Samson Luk

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From: [email-masked] ([email-masked])
Subject: ET4000/W32 drivers for Linux?
Date: 18 Sep 1993 10:13:39 -0400

I've been thinking about picking up an ET4000/W32-based video card.  Will
the existing ET4000 support from X86Free work, or is there/will there be/
specific support for such boards?

        Mike Colvin

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From: [email-masked] (Massimo Boninsegni)
Subject: Spreadsheet
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 15:57:35 GMT

Hi! Has Oleo or any other good spreadsheet (by good I mean better than
Xspread) been ported to Linux ? If so, could anyone tell me where I can find
it ?
TIA

Massimo Boninsegni

National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Beckman Institute
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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Subject: Wanted: Simple Term for Linux
From: [email-masked]
Date: 18 Sep 93 09:16:46 -0800

Is there a simple terminal program for Linux?  I don't have X, nor do I wish to
install it.  Something simple with X modem, Zmodem and Ymodem (G preferred)
would be a plus.

Please leave ftp site and dir name if such an animal exists.

-- 
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From: [email-masked] (Jon Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 18:09:29 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Massimo Boninsegni) writes:
>Hi! Has Oleo or any other good spreadsheet (by good I mean better than
>Xspread) been ported to Linux ? If so, could anyone tell me where I can find
>it ?
>TIA

The most recent version of oleo compiled straight out of the box for me.
it's available from prep.ai.mit.edu in /pub/gnu/oleo*.

>
>
>Massimo Boninsegni
>
>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
>Beckman Institute
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
>

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From: [email-masked] (David Maxwell)
Subject: Re: Mathmatica like package for linux?
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 18:21:50 GMT

This topic came up during the summer on sci.math.symbolic and the
following was posted from the Maple support department:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked]
>>Is there a students version of Maple for LINUX available ?
>
>There is currently no version of Maple available for LINUX,
>although we are investigating producing a version.
>
>For information about availibility, please contact Waterloo
>Maple Software at [email-masked]
>
>Kate                         
>Waterloo Maple Software Technical Support                   
>[email-masked]                        

The more people they know are interested, the more likely they are to do a port.
Besides, IMHO, Maple is a better package than Mma.  Let them know you want a port
for Linux!

David Maxwell

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From: [email-masked] (Tony Cifelli)
Subject: I need HP LJ III filter
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Tony Cifelli)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 18:52:57 GMT

Thanks to those that have helped me out so far.

After I finally got the daemon to to send files to my line printer,
I realized it was sending stuff to my printer that it can't 
understand.  I have a NEC Silentwriter Model 97 (its only silent
when powered off, trust me!).  It does Postscript and HP LJ III
emulation plus it speaks its own language.  Does anyone have and
know what to specify as a filter in my /etc/printcap file?

regards,
Tony.
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[ cifelli systems & software inc.             Fax: 613-723-7472 ] 
[ 6 Gurdwara Rd. Suite 200 - Nepean, Ontario - K2E 8A3 - CANADA ]

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From: [email-masked] (Tony Cifelli)
Subject: I need a Xserver and Xconfig for ATI Graphics Ultra Plus
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Tony Cifelli)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 19:05:37 GMT

Thanks to those who have helped so far.

Still no luck.  I want to get something to download or ftp at best.
I've heard that people are having trouble re-compiling the Xserver.
I would like to avoid that if possible.

Does anyone out there actually have Linux working with the
ATI Graphics Ultra Plus?  Regardless of whether it takes full
advantage of the hardware support it offers.

I wish I could e-mail beer to those who help ... but if you're
ever in Ottawa, ...

cheers,
Tony.
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[ 6 Gurdwara Rd. Suite 200 - Nepean, Ontario - K2E 8A3 - CANADA ]

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From: [email-masked] (Rich Mulvey)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Simple Term for Linux
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 15:21:49 EDT

[email-masked] writes:

> Is there a simple terminal program for Linux?  I don't have X, nor do I wish 
> to
> install it.  Something simple with X modem, Zmodem and Ymodem (G preferred)
> would be a plus.
> 
> Please leave ftp site and dir name if such an animal exists.

   I believe minicom comes standard with all of the major Linux
distributions.

- Rich

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From: [email-masked] (Toby Chappell)
Subject: Re: FTP
Date: 18 Sep 93 19:41:11 GMT

[email-masked] (Charles E Newman) writes:
>
>          Where is the FTP site at where I can get Linux from?
>

  sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/SLS

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From: [email-masked] (Gregg Brekke)
Subject: Re: Teac CD-ROM recognition
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 12:53:30 GMT

Gregg Brekke ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Is there a way to disable the CD-ROM seek at Linux startup?  OR has 
: anyone gotten a Teac CD-ROM to work with Linux?

Ok, here is more info from my original post.  I have a TEAC CD-50 
CD-ROM drive attached to a Future Domain 168 SCSI card and am 
running SLS 1.03. (p12)

I found the kernel config option to disable SCSI CD-ROM recognition
and recompiled and installed this new kernel with that option off.
Now when Linux starts up with the CD-ROM drive _DISCONNECTED_ it 
reported the following SCSI verification:

scsi0:
        detected 1 hard disk, 1 tape drive

When I started up with the _original_ kernel and the CD-ROM drive 
_DISCONNECTED_ it reported this SCSI verification:

scsi0:
        dected 1 hard disk, 1 tape drive, 0 CD-ROM drive

Now the kicker...  Under EITHER kernel with the CD-ROM attached, I get
the following error sequence.  NOTE:  this happens even in the 
kernel that has SCSI CD-ROM recognition disabled!

===== begin startup report =====

Future Domain IRQ 10 requested from kernel
scsi0: Future Domain TMC-16x0
Future Domain: TMC 16x0 SCSI driver, version 3.18
scsi: 1 hosts.
        Vendor: IMPRIMIS        Model: 94241-7        Rev: 1275
        Type:   Direct-Access           ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
Detected scsi disk sd0 at scsi2, id 0, lun 0
        Vendor: TEAC            Model: CD-ROM Cd-50   Rev: 1.06
        Teype:  CD-ROM                          ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi2, id 4, lun 0
scsi2: target 4, lun 1, request sense failed, performing reset
Future Domain: SCSI Bus Reset
Future Domain: TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 3.18
Future Domain: BIOS Version 3.2, TMC-18C50
Future Domain: BIOS at ca000; port base at 140; using IRQ 10
other (8), target = 4 cmd = 0x03 pieces = 0 size = 16
sent command = 6, have_data_in = 0, timeout = 50
in_interrupt_flag = 1
IMR = 0xdff8 (masked), IRR = 0x0400, ISK = 0x0000
SCSI Status         = 0x00
TMC Status          = 0x40
Interrupt Status    = 0x02
FIFO Status         = 0xf8
Interrupt Condition = 0x00
Configuration1      = 0x44
Configuration2      = 0x04
Unable to reset SCSI host 2
Kernel Panic:
 In swapper task - not syncing

===== end startup report =====

Why does this happen even when I have SCSI CD-ROM verification
turned off in the kernel?  Shouldn't the generic SCSI CD driver
at least let it pass through, even if it can't work with this
device?

Any assistance will be appreciated.  I need to run my internal
CD with OS/2 and DOS.  It isn't really needed under Linux, so 
if I can totally disable it, that's OK.  I do have the CD option
set to 'n' in the config.in kernel file, so what's up?

Thanks,
Gregg
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