Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #242
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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 93 16:13:07 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #242, Volume #6           Sun, 19 Sep 93 16:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: "Memory exhausted" problem in X solved (Marius Hancu)
  Re: MOTIF FOR LINUX (Kenneth Maier)
  Re: SLS wont mount /proc (Ben Frank)
  Re: [ANNOUNCE] Slackware Linux 1.0.3 (Linux 0.99pl13)
  background (Peter P Chiu)
  software list for linux? (KWT Wong)
  xterm problem when telnetting to a sun (Thomas J Bilan)
  Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please! ($ Burkhard Kohl)
  Linux for Atari's (Brian Willan)
  Re: [Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive (Warrior Of Darkness)
  Linux won't let me change password for new user (Teddy Winstead)
  Is there a way to switch Com IRQ's? (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
  SLS is working, sorta ... (Sol Lightman)
  IRQ 4, BUS Mouse probles...HELP??! (Kwasi Mireku)
  Re: Trouble in DOS floppy drive (Warrior Of Darkness)
  Re: Startx disables alias' (Warrior Of Darkness)
  Re: how many Linux installs? (Andreas Helke)

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From: [email-masked] (Marius Hancu)
Subject: Re: "Memory exhausted" problem in X solved
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 13:26:07 GMT

[email-masked] (John "Mr_Muppet" Gonyo) writes:

>I just recently installed Linux and am enjoying it's use very
>much!
>However, I'm having a hell of a time with getting X to run like
>I want it to.

>And for the swapping problem:
>I've got a 486-66 w/ 16mb RAM and a 5mb SWAP partition.  I had a background
>script logging the /proc/meminfo every 5 seconds while I ran X and
>loaded it up with those goofy games and whatnot. Eventually, no more windows
>could be opened, and upon returning to the shell, I noticed that
>ram used was near 16mb, while swap used was 0!!  It says that there is
>5megs of swap, 0 used, 5megs free!  Why doesn't it use the swap device?
>(Yes, it's mounted from fstab)

Hi:

I had myself problems with opening more than 2 X windows and 1 emacs
window on a 99pl12 linux (SLS 1.03), while having 8M RAM and having
declared at partitioning time:

mkswap -c /dev/hda2 16500 #16M of swap device
swapon /dev/hda2

The problem was only solved after I read an article by Kristian Ejvind
on this same moribond comp.os.linux (I did not find anything relevant
on the new comp.os.linux.help!!). 

Following his advice on a related query, I inserted the following
lines in my /etc/rc file:

mkswap -c /dev/hda2 16500
swapon -a

and 

/dev/hda2 none swap defauts  in the /etc/fstab file.

Now I can open more emacs and X windows and I am not getting the
complaint heard before:

"Memory exhausted" at the first command in emacs, like M-x rmail.

Would someone comment on why I had to insert these lines in those
files? I would have expected to get by  just by the commands at
partitioning time. Don't they have a lasting effect?

If they don't, this should be mentioned in the FAQs (I had all of them
in front of me, including the very good Linux Installation by Matt
Welsh). By the way fellows, it seems that any fear that not enough
pty's are generated, that I had, seems to be unfounded. In another
post, someone else mentioned that (naturally!) linux automatically
generates as many pty's as it needs. This as I tried in vain to use
mknod to generate more pty's for my xterms and emacses.

Thanks to Kristian.

Marius

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From: [email-masked] (Kenneth Maier)
Subject: Re: MOTIF FOR LINUX
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 16:46:58 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Surlinelli R. Cardino G. Maranzano L.) writes:
>Hi World!!
>
>I have heard of the availability of MOTIF for linux...
>Someone knows where I can get it ????
>
>
>Thanks and bye!
>P.S.: reply to [email-masked]

Metro Link Inc. sells a complete Motif development package for Linux
for $199 (including a free O'Reilly book).    Send mail to:
[email-masked] for more info.

-ken

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From: [email-masked] (Ben Frank)
Subject: Re: SLS wont mount /proc
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 16:42:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Derek Bischoff) writes:
>
> LR> my fstab :
> LR> /dev/sda1  ext2 defaults
> LR> /proc  /proc proc defaults
>
> LR> *** The sda1 entry  looks suspect but, I dont know enough about linux
> LR> to know what it should look like. Also after install the /proc
> LR> entry was not there...I had to enter it in.
>
>May not be an issue, (since I don't quite understand /proc)
>however my fstab is:
>
>/dev/sda1  /   ext2  defaults
>none       /proc  proc   defaults
>
>maybe it is because you are looking for device /proc while
>mine is stated that there is no device, and just use the directory.
>oh, and I am glad to see someone else use the ext2 filesystem
>(and not the Linux extfs)
>I like the results, and it hasn't crashed yet!
>
>
>... Sincerely, Derek
Hi,
  I think this should be put in the faq ( if it isn't already :)
mount at boot time will not work properly if you're root partition
is not properly described in the fstab, it doesn't matter if all the
other devices are described properly, if root isn't descrided properly
mount won't work. If you manually install SLS it makes a wrong entry
in the fstab, trying to mount it on /root rather than /, also you have
to have one and only one white space chacter between fields, it is 
easy not to notice a space and a tab. The root device should be
described thus:
Device<tab>MountPoint<tab>FilessytemType<tab>defaults

I think that all right :)

        Ben Frank.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [email-masked] (Linux 0.99pl13)
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Slackware Linux 1.0.3
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 09:37:19 GMT

Chan Lap Wah Samson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding) writes:
: : 
: : Version 1.0.3 of the Slackware Linux distribution may be found on
: : ftp.cdrom.com in directory /pub/linux/slackware, or
: : /pub/linux/zooed_slackware. 
: : 

: ARGH!!!!!

: I'm in the middle of getting 1.0.2...
: Is there major differences or can I ftp the diff portion of it?

: Thanks.

: Sams

        Please read the file README.ChangeLog.

        I remember that Only disk A4 and the Bootdisk was changed.

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From: [email-masked] (Peter P Chiu)
Subject: background
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:53:17 GMT

i want to put MS WINDOWS wallpaper in BMP format as X background.
i tried xv but don't know what the option for that is.

can xv do the job or i need some other programs?

please let me know by email: [email-masked]

thanks

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From: [email-masked] (KWT Wong)
Subject: software list for linux?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:33:02 GMT

Hi ,

I am new with linux. I was just wondering if there
exists a list of all the free good software around 
the place. If there is such a list please point me
to the right direction. If such a list does not
exist I volunteer to compile such a list. Just send
me the name of the program source and the ftp site
with a short description of the program. E-mail me.

Kevin Wong
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: xterm problem when telnetting to a sun
Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:13:51 GMT

I'm having problems when I telnet to a sun/sparc workstation at school
and my term environment variable is set to xterm.

I am running x in linux over a slip connection.

If I login to my machine and then telnet over to the sun, it sets the variable
to vt100 which works great but I only get 25(24?) lines.

In my openwin-menu-s file I have the following line:

"Sun host"  exec /usr/bin/X11/color_xterm -sb -sl 500 -j -ls -fn (continued..)
    (from previous line) lucidasanstypewriter-14 -T "Sun"

And when doing this the sun thinks I'm using an xterm (good) but it doesn't
know how many lines my current window is set at and *always* tries to squeeze
more lines than possible in the window and it scrolls past the top.

HELP!!!
:)

Tom Bilan
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From: [email-masked] ($ Burkhard Kohl)
Subject: Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please!
Date: 19 Sep 1993 17:55:04 GMT

Lawrence Gray ([email-masked]) wrote:
...

: How can I write a script so that tar backs up my laptop's entire 200 mb hard
: drive onto the two tapes.  

Read the tar-manpage and try the +multi-volume switch. If the tar command on 
the SGI can't handle files split across two volumes, get gnu's tar and 
compile it on the SGI.
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From: [email-masked] (Brian Willan)
Subject: Linux for Atari's
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 17:42:32 GMT

The subject basically says it all.

  I am wondering if there is going to be a port of Linux to the Atari ST.
In other words the 68000 processor.  I have heard rumours about this, so I
figured I would as for confirmation first.

Cheers

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 20:40:55 CDT
From: Warrior Of Darkness <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [Q] on Diamond Graphics card and [Q] on Tape drive

Hi|

DONT BY A DIAMOND CARD *arghl* it is really lame; I still couldnt get my
Stealth VRAM work; the Stealth 24 might or might not work; good cards for Linux
are, I think, ATI graphics ultra, 8514/A cards and the S3 card from Orchid;

DrAkHaI
ferdl<at>wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at
k2002e1<at>alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at

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From: [email-masked] (Teddy Winstead)
Subject: Linux won't let me change password for new user
Date: 19 Sep 1993 19:21:17 GMT

I used the latest SLS distribution of Linux from sunsite.unc.edu, and
when I added a user with useradd, things went smoothly until I tried
to log in. The passwd field is totally blank in the passwd file, as is
the entry in the shadow file. When I log on, I type the user name,
and Linux informs me that my password has expires, and that I should
select a new one. It then promptly tells me (without letting me
type anything in) that the password cannot be changed. I have triple
checked my permissions on all pertinent files, and can't figure out what in
the hell is wrong. Anybody got any ideas?

Also, it seems that my whole filesystem is mounted on / AND /root. What
gives?

Thanks in advance, Linux saved my soul!

ted

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From: [email-masked] (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
Subject: Is there a way to switch Com IRQ's?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 18:52:09 GMT

I was wondering if there exists a program to switch the IRQ number
of /dev/modem (or /dev/ttys2) to IRQ 5 instead of IRQ 3 (which is
controlling my top secret death ray).  I know you can do it in the
kernal if a #define or something, but I am runing a very small 
linux system at the moment and don't have the Gnu C compiler working
(as well I don't have the swap space).  Any help appreciated.

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From: [email-masked] (Sol Lightman)
Subject: SLS is working, sorta ...
Date: 19 Sep 1993 19:18:13 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I managed to get SLS installed on a 386 with 4 MEG ram, on a 52KBlock HD
partition with a 3KBlock swap space (sizes via fdisk.)  I encountered
numerous problems during installation -- I had to boot a1.3 seven
times.  It eventually made it all the way through the installation
procedure (An,Bn,Cn,Dn,X1) without crashing.  It would not set up a
swap space from the menu due to bad (I think) batch files -- I did this
on my own from the prompt.

I keep on getting the following message: Unexpected HD Interrupt
It pops up sporadically just about everywhere.  This may be a hardware
problem, because I had to install Wordperfect 6.0 3 times on the other
partition before it finally took, due to ``Serious disk error''s which
occurred, also sporadically, throughout installation.

Anyway, a1.3 usually crashed due to a `kernel panic' where the kernel
ended up in `swapper mode' and a frozen machine.

The swap batch files returned the proper usage line for swap as though
it had been invoked with no parameters.  Also, they returned the following
error message, which popped up a lot (I may not have this exactly right):

extended memory exceeded in `new'.

I had none of these problems earlier when installing SLS from 5.25" floppy
on a 486 with 3.7Meg RAM and a 90Meg Linux partition, no swap partition.

Any comments?  Help or information would be greatly appreciated.

Brian

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From: [email-masked] (Kwasi Mireku)
Subject: IRQ 4, BUS Mouse probles...HELP??!
Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:57:42 GMT

  I just installed the latest Slackware Distribution of Linux and I have run into
a problem with my mouse and Xwindows.
  The mouse is configured for IRQ 4 (my sound card uses IRQ 5).  I went into the
Linux source directory and altered busmouse.h to reflect the new IRQ #.  I recompiled
the zImage and yet the mouse is still not working.  It worked just fine at IRQ 5
(before I installed the sound card) and with the same Xconfig file.  The only thing
different is that the mouse is now installed at IRQ 4. 
  What is my problem??? 

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:23:34 CDT
From: Warrior Of Darkness <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Trouble in DOS floppy drive

Hi,

are your DOS disks formatted plain MS-DOS or some different format like that
1.72 format avail with the VGA-COPY  program?
I think the mitsumi init failed refers to some CDROM, not sure.

DrAkHaI
ferdl<at>wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:44:57 CDT
From: Warrior Of Darkness <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Startx disables alias'

Hi,

I guess the bash started under X only reads the file $HOME/.bashrc or so; if
your aliases are defined in /etc/profile, they dont run. Flame me if this is
not true. Flames are directed to /dev/null 8)

DrAkHaI
ferdl<at>wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [email-masked] (Andreas Helke)
Subject: Re: how many Linux installs?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 19:58:10 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> 
[email-masked] (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:

>I work for a hardware and systems company.  We have an
>Interoperability Lab where they install our products on
>the OSes our customers run, test our drivers, run
>benchmarks, etc.

>I want the Lab to install Linux and check it out.  But
>I can't make a business case for doing it without knowing
>how big the Linux market is.  (All of Unix is only about
>5% of our market.)  How many people run Linux,
>on how many machines?  If you think you know or have a way to
>measure, I'd like to hear from you.  Thanks.

>Cameron in San Jose, the forever newbie

In the editorial of the german unix magazine iX 9.93 there are some results of 
a readership survey wich shed some light on this issue.
Of the iX readers 6% use linux at work. The most used commercial (not 
specified which this is) unix is 33%.
At home 60% use DOS, 56% Windows and 29% linux.
It seems that linux is on the way to become the most widely installed unix 
variant, due to the high proportion of home installs.
A Novell add in the same magazine claims that there are 4 million computers 
running unix. 
If linux is equally widespread in USA as it is in germany, there must be a 
considerable number of linux systems.

Andreas
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      andreas@fly is somewhat unreliable, it's on a Linux computer wich 
      has its main duty as DOS/Windows computer and accepts mail only in 
      its Unix incarnation.

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