Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #247
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 15:13:07 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #247, Volume #6           Tue, 21 Sep 93 15:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: minicom 4g (Danny ter Haar)
  Re: NET2HOWTO-CONFUSE-YOU (Michael Will)
  Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please! (Michael Will)
  different packages (C.A. Peskin)
  [UPDATE] New kernel, libs for Slackware 1.0.3 (Patrick J. Volkerding)
  Re: LPD and 1.03 (Holger Veit)
  Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station (Timo Gerbes - DA Thomas)
  Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station (Paul Gortmaker)
  HELP! no floating point on 486 (Paul Trouton)
  [q] startx won't start X.. ([email-masked])
  Re: Linux is very unstable (Daz)
  Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station (Markus Storm)
  Re: [UPDATE] New kernel, libs for Slackware 1.0.3 (Mark Lord)
  Re: Adaptec 1542B vs 1542C vs 1740 ($ Burkhard Kohl)
  can't start xconsole in X for non-root user (Wai Ho)
  Why are my SCSI drivers so slooooww (Daz)
  Re: C, doubles (Rick Frankel)

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From: [email-masked] (Danny ter Haar)
Subject: Re: minicom 4g
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 16:01:24 

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Jaime Mantel) writes:
>I am looking for minicom version 4g and cannot seem to find it.
>Could some body please tell me where I might obtain it from?
>
I once uploaded it to sunsite and tsx-11, but I don't know where they put it.
You'll have to search for minicom1.4g not 4g !

good luck ! :)

Danny
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Danny ter Haar  <[email-masked]> or <[email-masked]>
PHILIPS DCC: combining the disadvantages of cd-rom's and tapes

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: NET2HOWTO-CONFUSE-YOU
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:22:55 GMT

[email-masked] writes:
>       I have been using Linux for a while now. Have 3 machines running
>99.9 and just decided to upgrade to 99.12 to take advantage of the NET2.

I could use SLIP only with p13.

Cheers, Michael Will
-- 
Michael Will <[email-masked]>     Linux - share and enjoy :-)
Life is not there if you can't share it... Hazel'O'Connor  Breaking Glass
Happily using Linux 0.99p12 with X11R5, \LaTeX, cnews/nn/uucp and:   PGP!
!!!  new mailadress:   [email-masked]       !!!

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From: [email-masked] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: Tape Drive Assistance, Please!
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:24:06 GMT

[email-masked] (Lawrence Gray) writes:
>How can I write a script so that tar backs up my laptop's entire 200 mb hard
>drive onto the two tapes.  

tar cvfM /dev/tape /

Cheers, Michael Will
-- 
Michael Will <[email-masked]>     Linux - share and enjoy :-)
Life is not there if you can't share it... Hazel'O'Connor  Breaking Glass
Happily using Linux 0.99p12 with X11R5, \LaTeX, cnews/nn/uucp and:   PGP!
!!!  new mailadress:   [email-masked]       !!!

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From: [email-masked] (C.A. Peskin)
Subject: different packages
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 05:24:33 GMT

After downloading almost the entire SLS 1.03 distribution, I find that
my current system does not boot using the SLS a1.3.  It claims that I
have a sound card installed, and then hangs.  I removed all hardware but
for my MFM controler, and 512k ATI VGA Wonder. Still says I have a sound
card installed.  No-go.  Ok, so now I have spoken to people on irc who
say. . ."SLS?  Mistake!"  or "MCC is the best." or "Slackware is the
most bug free. . ."  Well, I ca't make sense of this at all.  So if
somone could please clear up the situation, I'd be most appreciative.

My questions are:  Which package is best for a new user to install?
which is the most error-free instalation?  Which contains all the
important stuff, including X-windows?  Which is the best?!!!! (grin).
 
I booted up Slackware's boot, and it worked fine.  It seems like quite
an excellent system, compared to my experience with SLS.  

Ok, so give me the low down on the different dists., and tell me if I
can keep the SLS "x" series of the disks, even if I install the
Slackware.

Thanks!

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Rochester Institute of Technology              Chris A. Peskin  |
|  Electrical Engineering                                          |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+ 

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: [UPDATE] New kernel, libs for Slackware 1.0.3
Date: 21 Sep 1993 07:34:57 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding)

I've upgraded the kernel, shared libraries, and keyboard table utilities 
in the Slackware Linux distribution on ftp.cdrom.com. The files that
have changed are noted in README_ChangeLog. Just in case anyone was in
the middle of downloading (again), the old files will be saved in
/pub/linux/slackware/obsolete for a while. This also provides a nice
safety net in case I introduced any big bugs :^)

The kernel has been upgraded to the newly released .99 patch level 13,
and the shared libraries have been upgraded to version 4.4.2 alpha. I
know I said I wasn't going to do that, but I'm giving in. I'll replace
these with the official versions as soon as they are released. The 
keyboard utilities have been upgraded to version 0.81, and several new
keyboard maps are included.

The new package "shlibs.tgz" cannot be upgraded using pkgtool. If you
wish to upgrade an existing system, do the following:

Put "shlibs.tgz" in your root directory.
Boot the bootdisk, and mount your root partition under /root.
rm /root/lib/libc.so.*
rm /root/lib/libm.so.*
cd /root
zcat shlibs.tgz | tar xvf -

Reboot, and you'll be all set.

-- 
Patrick Volkerding
[email-masked]
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Holger Veit)
Subject: Re: LPD and 1.03
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 07:45:58 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>
>       [email-masked] (Bryan Zarnett - SPEC/F93) writes:
> 
> 
>    LPD demon doesnt seem to run properly on version 1.03.  LPD doesnt appear
>    in the process list after its typed (over a dozen times) and when I use
>    LPR it gives a file not found.  Any ideas?
> 
>    If I switched back to an old LPD would it run on 1.03, I have the one from
>    patch level 6 running around on disk still. 
> 
>    - Bryan

I had the same problem yesterday (with SLS-1.03). Create a directory
/var/spool/lpd, and edit the /etc/printcap file to be correct. Mine
had an open entry for a hp Laserjet (which is ok for me), but the
"of=" entry is wrong (there is no output filter there, remove this entry)
and better set "sd=/var/spool/lpd" and "lf=/var/spool/lpd/lpd.log".
After that lpd should come up, and could be enabled with the lpc commands.

There is unfortunately not printcap(5) man page, but as an old 386bsd hacker,
I got one from there.

Holger

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         Dr. Holger Veit                   | INTERNET: [email-masked]
|  |   / GMD-SET German National Research  | Phone: (+49) 2241 14 2448
|__|  /  Center for Computer Science       | Fax:   (+49) 2241 14 2342
|  | /   P.O. Box 13 16                    | Had a nightmare yesterday:
|  |/    Schloss Birlinghoven              | My system started up with
         53731 St. Augustin, Germany       | ... Booting vmunix.el ...

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From: [email-masked] (Timo Gerbes - DA Thomas)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 09:04:39 GMT

[email-masked] (RZ Diplomantenarbeitsplatz) writes:

>Hi,
>I got a problem when running X386. Sometimes the X-Server freezes 
>the complete station. All X-Clients seem to stop ( clock doesn't
 [rest deleted]

i have the same problems (et4000, xfree 1.3, kernal pl12, sls 1.03, twm).
the only (bad) workaround is to start X11 as root. until now the system
dos *not* hang under root.

        timo

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Gortmaker)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station
Date: 21 Sep 1993 08:24:54 GMT

[email-masked] (RZ Diplomantenarbeitsplatz) writes:

>Hi,
>I got a problem when running X386. Sometimes the X-Server freezes 
>the complete station. All X-Clients seem to stop ( clock doesn't

[...]

>I'm running linux 0.99p12 and XFree 2.0. Window-Manager is olvwm.
                               ^^^^^^^^^
...say *what* ?!? XFree86 2.0 has not been released upon the unwashed
masses yet. If you managed to get your hands on a beta copy, then
don't look for any help unless you *are* one of the XFree86 sanctioned
testers. Dwex is already not too happy with some Linux users for
ignoring the XFree teams request to *not* use any leaked servers.

[...]

>I've got a second problem:
> The size of my swap partiotion is about 22 MByte (shown by fdisk).
> I did a mkswap with the given size. When I say swapon /dev/xxxx
> I get 16xxx KByte swap partition activated. Why is there some swap
> space left unused ?

RTF FAQ! (Enclosed clipping for your benefit.)
===================
Question 4.3.  How can I have more than 16Mb of swap ?

You have to set up more than one swap partition or swapfile.  Linux only
supports swap area sizes up to 16Mb, but you can set up and configure
several swap areas and Linux will use them all.
===================

Paul.
--
Paul Gortmaker c/o Microelectronics and Materials Technology Centre.
Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001,
Victoria, Australia. Ph  (61) 3 660 2601. FAX (61) 3 662 1921.
e-mail: [email-masked] [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Trouton)
Subject: HELP! no floating point on 486
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 10:10:10 GMT

Please help. I am using Linux and gcc. I also have dbg and xxxdbg. My problem is this
I have a program that uses doubles, I can compile the code, but when I run the
program it crashes giving the error
program received signal 8, floating point exception error

When I got my setup it said

HOSTTYPE=i386

I am running Linux on a 486DX/33, it was installed on this machine.

I am certain that the program core's because it cannot use the maths co-pro on the 486, because it is in i386 mode.

How can I fix this, how can I set the HOSTTYPE to 486.

Also where can I get PS docs for gcc, dbg and xxxdbg, or even books on these programs.

I have tried everything, but nothing helps. Please help. ASAP.

Thanks in advance Paul...

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: [q] startx won't start X..
Date: 20 Sep 93 22:40:01 -0600

I have been trying (unsuccessfully) to find an answer to this in the
FAQ.. but I must now direct it here and brave allthe RTFM flames..  :-)

--

I am unable to startx on my system.  The script sucessfully recognizes that
I have a VGA card and a mouse, and that they are installed.. but it won't
let me in!  The screen goes blank.. then I get swamped with too much output to
list here.

If anyone is able to help, please email.  My goal is to get X set up so it
works, then create a general user account for my fiancee, then I'll be done
bothering  you guys with my silly newbie questions..

--

Thanks for the help.  I REALLY CAN'T seem to solve my problem by reading
the faq or the minimal documentation available.

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From: [email-masked] (Daz)
Subject: Re: Linux is very unstable
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 11:01:52 GMT

<[email-masked]> writes:

>Uh, oh, you are using patch-level 13 ! This is a very much ALPHA kernel!
>Better use pl12, or don't complain ;-)

>/Herp
I've just moved up from 10 to 12 (10 was very stable - only 1 unexplained
crash ever over about 6 months) - but 12 has left me less happy - things
are supposed to improve, but I have locked it up several times in a few weeks,
and have found another probelm with software which won't run correctly once
its disk usage gets cached. I'm going to 13 this evening (right now in fact)
in the vain hope that some of the bugs might disappear - not whinging, but
I hate it when things get less happy with time,

Daz.
--
Darren Platt, Department of Computer Science
[email-masked]
Monash University, Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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From: [email-masked] (Markus Storm)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station
Date: 21 Sep 1993 11:34:11 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article <gerbes.748602279@taunus>, [email-masked] (Timo Gerbes - DA Thomas) writes:

|> >I got a problem when running X386. Sometimes the X-Server freezes 
|> >the complete station. All X-Clients seem to stop ( clock doesn't
|>  [rest deleted]
|> 
|> i have the same problems (et4000, xfree 1.3, kernal pl12, sls 1.03, twm).
|> the only (bad) workaround is to start X11 as root. until now the system
|> dos *not* hang under root.
|> 

Me too. But it's an ET3000, and even root hangs (though less frequent).
Strange enough, this doesn't seem to happen with my old 99pl8 Image.
Has anyone ever tried other kernels ? Maybe pl13A ?

Regard, Markus

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [email-masked] (Mark Lord)
Subject: Re: [UPDATE] New kernel, libs for Slackware 1.0.3
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 14:36:32 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:
>
>I've upgraded the kernel, shared libraries, and keyboard table utilities 
>in the Slackware Linux distribution on ftp.cdrom.com. The files that
>have changed are noted in README_ChangeLog. Just in case anyone was in
>the middle of downloading (again), the old files will be saved in
>/pub/linux/slackware/obsolete for a while. This also provides a nice
>safety net in case I introduced any big bugs :^)

Egads!  And I even checked for updates before reinstalling last night!

Oh well.  Here are some Obligatory Cleanups for slackware103:

        /etc/rc.local looks for /etc/syslog[dk],
        which are actually located in /usr/bin, so they never run.

        Also, some of the commented out examples in syslog.conf
        do not actually work when uncommented..

        There are still many duplicated man pages in /usr/man/cat1,
        mostly of the form:   xclock.1.z  xclock.1x.z

        There are several games manpages in /usr/man/cat1 that
        really belong in (and are formatted for) /usr/man/cat6

        Not all of the /usr/man/{cat[0-9],man[0-9]} dirs are created.
-- 
[email-masked]    Mark Lord       BNR Ottawa,Canada       613-763-7482

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From: [email-masked] ($ Burkhard Kohl)
Crossposted-To: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542B vs 1542C vs 1740
Date: 21 Sep 1993 17:28:37 GMT

$ Burkhard Kohl ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Well the 1542C supports SCSI-2 whereas the B does not. Furthermore 1542C allows
: you to enter the SCSI-select program for test and configuration purposes from
: ROM at boot time, so you don't need SCSI-select utilities :-)
: --

Sorry, but thats just wrong. Of course both adaptors are SCSI-2. Sorry again.
To prevent being flamed I'll withdraw my stupid statement

One of the main differences between B and C is the SCSI select feature which
can entered during boot time by just pressing Ctrl-A. This feature allows you to 
modify the settings of the card (e.g. disabling the host bus termination, 
selecting the DMA transfer rate, testing the bus, and a lot more) without
changing any jumpers and without the need of any other utility progs.

Actually the 1542C allows a slighty higher DMA transfer rate (10 Mb/s instead
of 8 Mb/s) but this feature is only of theoretical use, because the bus is 
not affected - the recommend setting for most hardware combinations is still 5 Mb/s.

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: [email-masked] (Wai Ho)
Subject: can't start xconsole in X for non-root user
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 10:01:38 GMT

Hi there,
        I've been unable to get xconsole to open the console when
running X as a non-root user.  The xconsole works fine for root or su
but not for normal user.  I have done the following but no success:
                1) set root uid for xterm, xconsole, X386, xdm, xinit
                2) set perm for tty0 to be 'rw' for all
                3) /dev is now 'rwx' for all
        I'm currently running SLS's copy of Linux and Xfree 1.2.  Can
someone enlighten me on this ?

Thanks in advance,
Wai-Ming Ho
[email-masked]

-- 

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#     Wai-Ming Ho                                                            #
#       [email-masked]                                             #

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From: [email-masked] (Daz)
Subject: Why are my SCSI drivers so slooooww
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 12:01:53 GMT

I suppose you could qualify this as a help request.
Under DOS, I can move 45 Meg between partitions in about 18 seconds
with a HP SCSI disk, and an Adaptec 1542. Not bad - quite happy in fact.

Under linux I moved 200 Meg between partitions the other night in just
under 30 MINUTES. Do the calcuations, is there something major I've
done wrong. I'm running pl12 at the moment on a 486-50 - with 8 meg of
RAM. When I reboot, I should have pl13 running.

sigh - love the OS, but my poor HD is sooo sloooow.

(mail replies are probably a good thing.)
Daz.
--
Darren Platt, Department of Computer Science
[email-masked]
Monash University, Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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From: [email-masked] (Rick Frankel)
Subject: Re: C, doubles
Date: 21 Sep 93 18:39:57 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Paul Trouton) writes:
> once in the computer, some may need to be converted to a double or
> integer.
> ...
> My problem is that I can compile the program, but once I try and run
> the program, it gives me a 'floating point exception error' after the
> command to change vat (or any other string to double conversion).

> The program works fine on the Sun, but not on my 486 at home, under
> Linux.

I have a similar problem. 
I'm trying to compile perl5alpha under linux (only guaranteed to work
on sun sparc ;) And any time (all the time) it tries to coerce a
double to a (long) int it generates an FPE.

Is this an interaction between gcc * the fpu? is their a switch to fix
it?

thanx, 
rick
--
[email-masked]
[email-masked]

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