Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #248
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 20:13:09 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #248, Volume #6           Tue, 21 Sep 93 20:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Disk caching bug in PL12, 13 (Daz)
  Linux is very unstable (Shannon Hendrix)
  Network Woes  [from a network newbie!] (Jeffrey T. Noll)
  SoundBlaster CD-ROM support? (David Nicholson)
  Re: can't start xconsole in X for non-root user (Manuel Bouyer)
  Re: [Q] Comments on my configuration of PC please... (Mark A. Horton)
  Re: Adaptec 1542B vs 1542C vs 1740 ($ Burkhard Kohl)
  Re: Unable to access SCSI disk on Gateway 66E? (tom owen)
  Re: can't start xconsole in X for non-root user ([email-masked])
  X386 support Paradise (accel) card?
  Auto-answer now works (was: Re: Auto-answer with uugetty or getty) (Willie Lim)
  where to get it and...
  Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor (Steve Benz)
  WANTED: X HW compatibility list (jesus ramos)
  Re: Tandy CD-ROm drive (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  Re: BBS package (David Kraus)
  Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station (David Kraus)
  XFree 1.3 hangs my system! (Surlinelli R. Cardino G. Maranzano L.)
  SoundBlaster CD-ROM support? (David Nicholson)

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From: [email-masked] (Daz)
Subject: Disk caching bug in PL12, 13
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 13:47:56 GMT

I am running a package called gf here which uses another fairly
large package called sgmls via a popen command. The second package
is a parser. The two work fine the first time, and then malfunction
the second and subsequent times. Doing an ls -R /  however clears the
buffer cache apparently and the program will run again once. If anyone
is interested in this bug, I can provide more details. I am using the
extended 2 file system on a 486-50. The bug is does not exhibit itself in pl4
according to the author of pl 4.

Daz.
(You had better mail me,
news reading time is scant)
--
Darren Platt, Department of Computer Science
[email-masked]
Monash University, Clayton Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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From: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Linux is very unstable
Date: 21 Sep 1993 16:00:45 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)

   <[email-masked]> writes:

   I've just moved up from 10 to 12 (10 was very stable - only 1 unexplained
   crash ever over about 6 months) - but 12 has left me less happy - things

But the p10 kernel hasn't been out for six months...

csh / [email-masked] / Christopher Newport University

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From: [email-masked] (Jeffrey T. Noll)
Subject: Network Woes  [from a network newbie!]
Date: 21 Sep 1993 19:20:03 GMT

        I'm hoping this is a real simple problem that someone can
help me fix. I'm trying to get a linux box onto the net and it isnt
working so hot. At boot up time, the rc comes up with the error:
        SIOCADDRT: network unreachable
        SIOCADDRT: network unreachable

        If i try to telnet, it just hangs for a while, if i take the cable
out and try, it comes up with a bad cable error. Its the MCC p10 installation
with a p12 kernel. This is what rc.inet1 looks like:
   HOSTNAME=`hostname`

   /usr/etc/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
   /usr/etc/route add 127.0.0.1

   IPADDR="128.123.1.55"
   NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
   NETWORK="128.123.1.0"
   BROADCAST="128.123.1.255"

   /usr/etc/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
   /usr/etc/route add ${IPADDR}
   /usr/etc/route add ${NETWORK}
   /usr/etc/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

Thats it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh, BTW: its a 486-25
with a wd8003 8-bit card. Heres another question, at bootup, it seems
to autodetect everything that goes into the CONFIG in net/inet in the
kernel source, I defined it all anyway and compiled, but do i really
have to? Thanks,
        Jeff

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From: [email-masked] (David Nicholson)
Subject: SoundBlaster CD-ROM support?
Date: 21 Sep 1993 13:13:41 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Manuel Bouyer)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: can't start xconsole in X for non-root user
Date: 21 Sep 1993 19:26:37 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Wai Ho) writes:
|> Hi there,
|>      I've been unable to get xconsole to open the console when
|> running X as a non-root user.  The xconsole works fine for root or su
|> but not for normal user.  I have done the following but no success:
|>              1) set root uid for xterm, xconsole, X386, xdm, xinit
|>              2) set perm for tty0 to be 'rw' for all
|>              3) /dev is now 'rwx' for all
The user that run xconsole MUST BE the owner of /dev/console, and have the rw
rights on it.  At login, you have do  a 
chown $USER /dev/console; chmod 600 /dev/console (or 655)
whith xdm, it can be done in the script defined by the DisplayManager._0.startup
resource. This script is run as root after the passwd controle.
In the srcipt defined by the DisplayManager._0.reset: resource, you can do a
chown root /dev/console;chmod 600 (or 655) /dev/console.
If you uses startx, i thick you whill have to do a root seteuid program to do this. 
--
Manuel Bouyer
email: [email-masked]
--

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Horton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [Q] Comments on my configuration of PC please...
Date: 21 Sep 1993 07:01:30 -0700

Taek-Soo Kim ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi there,

: After some survey and recommendation, I decided to purchase
: the following PC. Any comments would be very helpful.

: 486-DX2 66 (Comtrade)
: EISA
: 16MB RAM
: Adaptec 1742 scsi-2 controller
: 545MB HD
: Orchid Fahrenheit 1280+ or VA (32bit VLB) with 1MB.
: 17" Monitor (MAG or CTX).

        WOW!  what a box!  How many users are you going to support?

: As you can see, I have not fixed the monitor and the video card.
: Any suggestion is welcome.

        Get a bigger SCSI disk -- prices being what they are, you can
        pick up a Toshiba 1.2GB 9ms. SCSI-2 drive for around $900. (us)
        it's worth spending a little more from the price of the  545 MB
        drive to get more storage.  And it looks like you're sparing no
        expense in setting up a killer system!

: I plan to attach scsi tape drive in the future, any recommendation
: on this would also be appreciated.

        With the size disk you've got, get a large capacity one.. the
        150s and 250s can get really annoying when you have to change
        tapes all the time.  If you expect your system to grow and can
        afford it, get something like the Exabyte 8mm 2.3GB scsi drive
        (it's external, but very good)  It'll cost more initially, but
        will be worth it in the future as you add more disk space.  Also,
        you can use those home-video 8mm cartridges which you can get for
        as little as $3.00 each as opposed to 15-20 bucks each for the QIC
        tapes! -- this adds up to big savings when you implement a decent
        backup strategy.  You can sometimes find the Exabytes used for very
        good prices - since it's scsi, it doesn't matter who makes it.  I'm
        using one that came off a Sun workstation -- just plugged it into
        the buss, entered the appropriate "find ..... | cpio -ovO /dev/rmt0"
        command and it took off and ran fine!  I am STILL trying to figure 
        out where they put all that data on those tiny little tapes!
        Oh - if you go this route, don't let the salescritters talk you 
        into "data-quality" media as opposed to vcr type tape -- this is
        utter bullshit - if it can record and reproduce a video signal, it
        has far greater bandwidth and frequency response than is needed for
        mere digital data!

        Hope this helps, Taek-Soo
        -- Mark

: Taek-Soo Kim

: ps. Thanks to those who responded on my previous posting
:     "[Q] Diamond grapics card and tape backup"

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From: [email-masked] ($ Burkhard Kohl)
Crossposted-To: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542B vs 1542C vs 1740
Date: 21 Sep 1993 13:30:53 GMT

Doug McLaren ([email-masked]) wrote:

:    - But what's the difference between the Adaptec 1542B and 1542C ?

Well the 1542C supports SCSI-2 whereas the B does not. Furthermore 1542C allows
you to enter the SCSI-select program for test and configuration purposes from
ROM at boot time, so you don't need SCSI-select utilities :-)
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Subject: Re: Unable to access SCSI disk on Gateway 66E?
From: towen@oregon (tom owen)
Date: 21 Sep 93 09:45:31 EST

Moti Thadani ([email-masked]) wrote:

:       I tried to install Linux on my Gateway 66E (EISA) PC and found
:       that the bootable floppy (disk a1) does not detect the 500MB
:       SCSI disk.  It does detect the SCSI controller (which is the
:       Ultrastor, 24F I believe) and otherwise seems functional
:       (allows me to log in as root and when I try to run fdisk
:       /dev/sda it comes back saying "cannot open /dev/sda").  Is it
:       something I'm doing wrong?  

: -- 
: ________________________________________________________________________

: Moti N. Thadani                               (408) 456-5619
: Unisys Corporation                    [email-masked]
: San Jose, CA
: ________________________________________________________________________

The problem is that the ultrastor uses a non-standard chipset to control
the SCSI peripherals.  If you contact gateway and make a big fuss that you
are having compatibility problems, they will replace the card.  The card to
demand is the Adaptec 1742.  It is also a 32 bit EISA SCSI controller. I am
currently waiting on my replacement card, since I had the same problem. I
have heard of many successful installations using the adaptec card, so that
is why I am recommending it.  Good Luck....
                              
===========================================================================
Tom Owen

All opinions are expressly my own....
All flames go directly to /dev/null
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: can't start xconsole in X for non-root user
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 14:14:26 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Bill Woodward)

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Wai Ho) writes:
>       I've been unable to get xconsole to open the console when
>running X as a non-root user.  The xconsole works fine for root or su
>but not for normal user.  I have done the following but no success:
>               1) set root uid for xterm, xconsole, X386, xdm, xinit
>               2) set perm for tty0 to be 'rw' for all
>               3) /dev is now 'rwx' for all
>       I'm currently running SLS's copy of Linux and Xfree 1.2.  Can
>someone enlighten me on this ?

By convention, X programs that intercept the console will only do so
if the person running them owns the console.  I know that the xdm
GiveConsole and TakeConsole scripts should take care of ownership
of the console device, but if you just run startx, it probably doesn't.
        FYI, I'm not sure what the console device is under Linux (I'm
at work right now), but on my RS/6000, it is /dev/console.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Bill Woodward        | [email-masked]   <-- Try this first
AIX Software Support | [email-masked]  
Graphics Group       | 512-838-2834
My other computer is a 386 running Linux !!!

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From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: X386 support Paradise (accel) card?
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 20:45:44 GMT

Does XFree1.3 or will XFree2.0 support the accelerated video card.
If there is more than one such card, then I don't know which one, 
but it was selling for about $140 canadian (about two dollars american :-)
just the other day..
Claims to speed up windows by a factor of 35.
rpgallan@jeeves

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From: [email-masked] (Willie Lim)
Subject: Auto-answer now works (was: Re: Auto-answer with uugetty or getty)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:42:40 GMT

I have finally got my auto-answer to work consistently.  I used the
default file in /usr/local/lib/src/getty/etc/default/uugetty.ttys0 (or
something like that I don't remember which exactly :-).  There are
several files in that directory, I used the one setup for 2400 baud.
I also added a couple of delays to get things to work for my modem.
Since I soft-linked /dev/modem to /dev/cua1, I copy that file to
/etc/default/uugetty.cua1 and soft-linked /etc/default/uugetty.modem
to it.  /dev/cua1 is the same port I used for dialing out to my UUCP
neighbor for my mail connection.  That has worked beautifully for
quite a while.

I am still playing around with the settings in
/etc/default/uugetty.modem(or cua1) As there are still some minor
problems like "+++AT" gets printed on the remote screen on hangup and
the /dev/modem line doesn't hang up when the other side hangs up.

Willie

(-: What is the test for computer literacy?  The Linux test.  People
who can't hack it should be condemned to play with machines designed
for the mouse-loving, button-pushing, know-nothing computer illerates.
:-)

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 11:00:34 EDT
From: <[email-masked]>
Subject: where to get it and...

Where can I get  linux? and what to grab in that directory?

Thanks.
-J Hdez.

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Benz)
Subject: Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:27:16 GMT

A friend of mine came to town this weekend with the intent of getting
Linux installed on his machine -- I'd told him it'd be an easy one-afternoon
task, but I'm afraid I ended up with egg on my face...

When we booted Linux on his machine from the SLS A1 disk it claimed
that it saw 0 hosts, 0 disks, 0 CD-ROM's, and 0 tape drives.
Figuring that it was just a problem with that disk, we booted with
HJ's rootdisk, but that didn't do any better.  And according to the
hardware compatability list, it oughta work.  His machine is a
Tristar GA-486VT 33MHz DX2 with an UltraStor 14f HF ISA SCSI Host
adapter & a Seagate ST3550N hard disk at SCSI ID 0 & a Texel CDRom
at SCSI ID 2.

I'm hoping we just need to set some sort of jumper or something like
that to get it to work, but I couldn't find anything that made sense
to either of us.  (The SCSI HowTo is definitely written for SCSI gurus --
or at least people who know alot about SCSI interfaces, which neither
of us do.)

In addition, and here's another case where I'm almost certainly being
a bonehead or something -- when SLS boots, it chucks up a prompt that
says something to the effect of remove the a1 disk and put in the
``utilities'' disk and then press 1 if you put it in a 5.25" A drive,
2 if you put it in a 3.5" A drive, etc.

What utilities disk?

I installed SLS myself about a million years ago, and I remember being
stumped on that same question, but I somehow figured out what to do there,
but this time things didn't work out that way...  I thought for sure that
this utilities disk was either A1 or A2, but neither of those approaches
seemed to work.  Finally I went over to my machine and constructed a floppy
with a minix file system and a bunch of stuff that looked useful on it
(fdisk, mke2fs, etc.)  That worked, but it was pretty much for nothing
since Linux didn't think /dev/sda was connected to anything.

So anyway, that's my story, and I'd sure appreciate it if somebody could
clear things up for me.

                                        - Steve

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From: [email-masked] (jesus ramos)
Subject: WANTED: X HW compatibility list
Date: 21 Sep 1993 16:58:12 GMT

I'm looking for a site that has one of those lists, or someone that
could e-mail me one. i always see regular lists, but none for X. 

 Also, I 'm one of the happy :) owners of a diamond stealth VLB card,
and I would appreciate if someone woulld tell me where to find a vide
driver for this card for the X environment.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated

 Jesus Ramos
 [email-masked]
 [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: Tandy CD-ROm drive
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:09:08 GMT

Jonker N ([email-masked]) wrote:
> Hey all,

> I have a Tandy Cd-Rom drive (I *think* model ...1000 os some such)
> in my machine, and I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there 
> is support for this drive in Linux, and if it is possible to install
> one of the SLS or whatever releases available on CD, from this drive?

> PLEASE RESPOND IN EMAIL! to [email-masked].

> Thanks, Niels.

Please, tell us more about your drive and its interface board.

40 wires?

Drive manufacturer: Matsushita/Kotobuki/Panasonic/Aztech?

For those drives, ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/cdrom/sbpcd04.tgz
is waiting...

  Eberhard
-- 
      Eberhard Moenkeberg        FIDO:     2:241/3410.27  
      Reinholdstr. 14            Internet: [email-masked]
      37083 Goettingen, Germany  Voice:    ++49-551-704325

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From: [email-masked] (David Kraus)
Subject: Re: BBS package
Date: 21 Sep 93 09:41:41

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Derek Bischoff) writes:

> DCA> You've missed the point. The above does not say SHELL PROMPT. It says
> DCA> USER'S SHELL. Two different things. The shell could be a menu program
> DCA> where the user never sees the shell prompt.

> Well, actually Mark, I don't think he did.
> yasee, Unix, as an Operating system, when you consider all the
> built-in functions  (news, mail, write or chat)  It has the basic
> makings to provide excelent BBS services.  It makes sense
> to provide a menu (bbs like) shell interface for the user to 
> protect him from the unix shell prompt, then use the built
> in functions of mail, etc to do the work of the bbs.

> I believe one of the greatest obstacles of doing that are the following:

> One, for most bbs's it is a simple matter to remove a user  from
> the list of users for bbs management.

It's a simple matter to do so on a unix-style system as well.  There are
even programs to do it in /etc.  You just need to set permissions for your
co-sysops to do it.

> Two, Most bbs's use a singular user for the bbs for the following:
> this way you can have NEW users, and this way you can have just
> one user, one set of permissions to regulate and keep sheltered
> from other users. (should you have any)

I don't really follow what you're trying to say here....

> It is difficult for someone to get an id, create an entry in the
> /etc/passwd file, allow him limited access, promote, etc, etc, etc
> in the current OS.  If you have one login for the bbs, and it
> is public knowlege, you could build up users from that list.  Loyal
> and current users who would like their own id could be accomodated for.

No it isn't.  As a matter of fact, I have a friend (yes, it's not firsthand
experience, but I know of what I speak) running a homebrew BBS that's
nothing but a bunch of Perl scripts, used as a user's login shell.  And he
has a user 'new', that can create an account for a new user.  He doesn't
have to do anything by hand.

Now, he also doesn't have any real access restrictions in his system.  If
you've got access to news, you get all the groups, etc.  This is something
that is desireable in a BBS/public access environment, since you may not
want everyone reading everything that's out there.  There have been hacks
given to solve this (different groups for different newsgroups, but that
turns into a maintenance nightmare as well), but none of them more than a
hack....

Actually, what I think is a HUGE limiting factor to the unix BBS's is the
fact that no 2 tools are consistant in their user interfaces.  Mailers are
completely different from news readers, when, in reality, news and email
look about the same to the everyday user.

For example - put a newbie down in front of elm, and then try to
differentiate between when elm gets used and when trn gets used.  And then
try to explain why the commands are all different for the same sorts of
functions (next article, next message, highlight bars as opposed to none,
etc.).

For the non-computer literate, or a person who hasn't had much experience
(you know, the target market for most BBS's), the inconsistant command
interface is a HUGE problem.

Followups to comp.os.linux.misc, because comp.os.linux doesn't really exist
any more....
--
Dave Kraus                                         Internet: [email-masked]
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group             FidoNet : 1:115/439.8
Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ.
"Sun to burn out in 1.5 billion years!  Clinton has a plan." - Outland

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From: [email-masked] (David Kraus)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: X386 freezing up station
Date: 21 Sep 93 09:51:34

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Robert Cooper) writes:

> [email-masked] (RZ Diplomantenarbeitsplatz) writes:

>>Hi,
>>I got a problem when running X386. Sometimes the X-Server freezes 
>>the complete station. All X-Clients seem to stop ( clock doesn't
>>update, xload doesn#t update ). I haven't tried to login into my
>>station from remote, but i'm quite sure that the machine is hanging.
>>The problem is that this doesn#t hppen all the time. Sometimes
>>I can open lots of shell-windows and anything will work fine, but
>>othertimes the statiob hangs after opening just two windows.
>>I think my configuratuion in Xconfig is ok. I can create lots
>>of processes if I don't use X386.
>>I'm running linux 0.99p12 and XFree 2.0. Window-Manager is olvwm.
>>Hardware:  Cyrix 486DLC, VGA 16 ET4000 SVGA card, 8 MBYte RAM,
>>           16 MByte Swap space

>       I am experiencing similar problems with Xfree 1.3.  I also
>       have an ET4000 and 8MB RAM, but I have a 486DX 33.

>>Question is:   Is the defect described above a known failure
>>               (I hanve't found anything about it in README files). 
>>               Can I do anything to avoid it?

>       Yes, I've done this too, and I think my setup is OK....looks
>       like the ET4000 drivers may be buggy.  I have also tried
>       the NoSpeedUp option in Xconfig, but that doesn't make any
>       difference.

I've been having lockups ever since I dropped in the ET4000, but I've been
blaming the hardware.

Generally, the lockup will occur when I'm moving a window.  I'm using
either TWM or FVWM - doesn't matter.  Also doesn't matter how long the
machine's been on, or how long I've been running in X.  Or even, really
what's going on.  I can pull up an xterm, and when I go to place it, if I
move it around as a wire frame too much, it'll freeze after redrawing bits
of the frame.

Also, another IMPORTANT data point:  Same thing happens under DesqView/X,
under similar conditions.  So I can't blame XFree, unless they're both
using the same style ET4000 drivers....

I haven't tried shutting off the speedup code - I'll give that a shot next,
and see how long it takes to see the problems again.  It's pretty random,
but it's started to happen more and more again lately....

<SHRUG>

Followups to comp.os.linux.help, because comp.os.linux doesn't really exist
any more...
--
Dave Kraus                                         Internet: [email-masked]
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group             FidoNet : 1:115/439.8
Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ.
"Sun to burn out in 1.5 billion years!  Clinton has a plan." - Outland

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From: [email-masked] (Surlinelli R. Cardino G. Maranzano L.)
Subject: XFree 1.3 hangs my system!
Date: 21 Sep 1993 08:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Surlinelli R. Cardino G. Maranzano L.)

Hi world!!

I have installed the SLS 1.03 and all is almost OK except the fact
that sometimes under X11 the system suddenly hangs without any possibility
of escape, except the RESET button.
Is it possible that Xmem or Xload could generate some problems ???
(I read something about the trouble caused by Xmem or Xload on the news
but I don't remember....)
Please someone can help me ????????

Thanks very very much!!!

Bye, Luke.
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From: [email-masked] (David Nicholson)
Subject: SoundBlaster CD-ROM support?
Date: 21 Sep 1993 23:49:16 GMT

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