Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #255
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 22:13:09 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #255, Volume #6           Thu, 23 Sep 93 22:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Audio CD player (Robert Stockmann)
  Re: running X appl. by modem ? (Wolfgang Thiel)
  Re: SmartHost with SMail? ([email-masked])
  Re: More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks. (Kelly Murray)
  Re: Is there a Pascal Compiler for linux? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: Future Domain SCSI (Sakari Aaltonen)
  Re: Future Domain SCSI (Sakari Aaltonen)
  Appointment book under X ? (Weihan Chang)
  Re: Audio CD player (Jon Tombs)
  Re: minicom 4g (Zhuo Er Lin)
  SLS 1.03 hangs on reboot (Thomas Michlmayr)
  Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? (David Watson)
  Re: Smail in 99pl9 (Rick)
  Re: Future Domain SCSI (Gregg Brekke)
  Re: [A]RAWDISK.SYS: QIC-80 Backup of non-DOS disks (Juergen Prang)
  Setting active partition on second hard drive (Tim Reczek)

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From: [email-masked] (Robert Stockmann)
Subject: Re: Audio CD player
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 01:56:10 GMT

[email-masked] (Graeme Perrow) writes:

>Hi...does anyone know if there is an audio CD player app available for X on 
>Linux? Thanks in advance

Yes it comes with the SLS 1.03 package. It runs under XView 3.0 and its
called workman. So start up openwin and look in the mouse menu under
XView binaries. works great! check it out.

>-- 
>*****************************************************************************
>* Graeme Perrow ([email-masked])      * *Real* programmers use:          *
>* University of Western Ontario          * C:\> copy con program.exe        *
>*****************************************************************************

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From: [email-masked] (Wolfgang Thiel)
Subject: Re: running X appl. by modem ?
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 19:03:35 GMT

[email-masked] (William_F._Mitchell) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Tim Cutts (Zoology)) writes:
>|> [email-masked] writes:
>|> 
>|> >In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Pablo Redard) writes:
>|> >> 
>|> >> I'm wondering if I can log into my account at the university 
>|> >> from home (through modem) and run an X application?
>|> 
...

>Does this require making the modem connection with SLIP?

No!

                  Wolfgang

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: SmartHost with SMail?
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:46:56 GMT

John S. Roberts Jr. ([email-masked]) wrote:
: How do I tell smail to use a smart host for routing mail.  I am
: on a slip line which does not allow me to telnet off our local
: site.  Therefore to send mail (telnet) other places I need to
: route all my mail through a local machine.

   In your smail config file, use:

smart_path=smart host name

   BTW - if you're using Slackware, there's a very handy script in
smail/tools.linux named mkconfig that will automate all of the nasty
smail configurations.  :-)

- Rich
-- 
Rich Mulvey                 Amateur Radio: N2VDS              Rochester, NY
[email-masked]         "Ignorance should be painful."

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From: [email-masked] (Kelly Murray)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks.
Date: 23 Sep 1993 20:01:19 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Skip Egdorf) writes:
|> In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Skip Egdorf) writes:
|> 
|>    I have just installed SLS 1.03 retrieved from tsx-11.mit.edu on the
|>    afternoon of Sept 17.
|>    ...
|>    however, the real problem comes when I try to rebuild the kernel.
|> 
|> And I have just found another interesting wrinkle, doing another make zImage
|> doesn't change the problem, but REBOOTING does. It compiles tty_io.c
|> with no problem and proceeds for a few dozen more files until it
|> breaks again in the same way. I am now on my third reboot and the kernel
|> is getting compiled slowly...

I get the same kind of behavior on my SLS 1.01 release.  The compiler screws up
sometimes, especially if it has been compiling lots of stuff.  I just reboot,
and things then compile without errors as expected.  My guess is that the 
page faulting system is buggy, especially since I also sometimes get messages
about bad page tables, etc.  This happens on both a .97 kernel and the 99 1.01
kernel, and with different CPU's (386sx and 486sx), different memory (8mb, 16mb)
and disks (IDE and ESDI), so I think its a software problem and not hardware related.

-Kelly Murray

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Is there a Pascal Compiler for linux?
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:23:05 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Joe Garber <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I need this for a class I am taking and would like to do my debugging
>at home.

Well not exactly. There is the p2c pascal to C translator. It converts
pascal to C and there is a C library with many of the builtin pascal
procedures and functions. I just tested it. It translates from pascal
(many dialects including Turbo, HP, UCSD, and Berkeley Pascal) to a C
program which can be compiled with the -lp2c library.

Hope this helps,

BAJ
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Sakari Aaltonen)
Subject: Re: Future Domain SCSI
Date: 22 Sep 1993 17:07:53 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Sakari Aaltonen)

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Rick Bowers) writes:
>In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Gregg D. Brekke)
>wrote:
>> 
>> I have a Future Domain TMC-1680 SCSI controller and Linux doesn't seem
>> to recognize it at all.  I thought I  read it was in the list of
>> 'supported' hardware?
>> ...
>
>I've been having the same problem.  I'm using the SLS version from July
>1993 off of tsx-11.mit.edu.
>
>As Gregg states, when I boot LINUX, it looks for a SCSI controller and then
>says it found nothing.  0 controllers, 0 disks, 0 tapes, 0 CD-ROMs, etc.
>
>I'd really like to get this going.  The FAQ says the FD 1680 is supported,
>but it somehow doesn't work.

I've been using a TMC-1680 since last October. No problems. 

Perhaps the kernel you use hasn't been configured for Future Domain 
support? I think it's possible to make such a kernel...

-- 
Sakari Aaltonen            | Linux is an ftp-able Unix clone for 386/486 PC's.
[email-masked]     | Boggles *my* mind, it does.
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Sakari Aaltonen)
Subject: Re: Future Domain SCSI
Date: 23 Sep 1993 12:31:00 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Sakari Aaltonen)

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Jon Hamilton) writes:
>[...]
>>I'd really like to get this going.  The FAQ says the FD 1680 is supported,
>>but it somehow doesn't work.
>
>You do have to configure it in... while doing make config, answer yes
>to the seagate st/01 controller option.  Note that the 16x0 does *not* 
>use the future domain driver, but the seagate one.  If after installing
>the kernel with this enabled and booting it still won't find your
>card/drives, you may need to set some overrides in kernel/blk_drv/seagate.c.
>It's well commented.  And it _does_ work, I have a 1680 with no rom on
>it and it works like a charm.  Well, an 8 bit charm, but nonetheless...
>

Ahem. This seems to be a misunderstanding. If you have an 8-bit Future
Domain host adapter like the TMC-850, then, yes, configure the Seagate 
8-bit driver.

But: if you have a 16-bit Future Domain adapter like the TMC-1680, then
you should, of course, configure the Future Domain driver (it's called
the Future Domain driver, so this should be easy).

My TMC-1680 has a ROM on it; I see no reason to remove the ROM just to
go 8-bit.  

-- 
Sakari Aaltonen            | Linux is an ftp-able Unix clone for 386/486 PC's.
[email-masked]     | Boggles *my* mind, it does.
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Weihan Chang)
Subject: Appointment book under X ?
Date: 23 Sep 93 21:31:15 GMT

Is there a organizer/appointment book type program under X window
for Linux ?

Thanks.
-- 
*******************************************************
*     Weihan Chang     :   (301) 622-0900 ext 305     *
*     E-mail address   :   [email-masked]        *
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From: [email-masked] (Jon Tombs)
Subject: Re: Audio CD player
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 21:58:13 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Graeme Perrow) writes:
>Hi...does anyone know if there is an audio CD player app available for X on 
>Linux? Thanks in advance

Yes use workman.

It is really quite a very nice package (albeit in OpenLook), I sent patches to
the author for linux which I believe are in the source of the latest version,
it should be just a case of:

xmkmf
make

There is an old version binary on  tsx-11 in the BETA/cdrom directory. Also
there is xcdplay which doesn't really compare.

Jon.

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From: [email-masked] (Zhuo Er Lin)
Subject: Re: minicom 4g
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:33:52 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Danny ter Haar) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (John Henders) writes:
>>
>>    It seems to not have made it onto either tsx-11 or sunsite. I
>>checked the listings and downloaded the one with the most recent date,
>>and it's not 1.4g. 
>>    Please send it again, and maybe leave a note asking the maintainers
>>to delete the other versions and there are some really obsolete versions
>>up there.
>>
>sure putting it on sunsite RIGHT NOW !! :-)
>I dont get it on TSX-11 because i get permission denied ....

>but on sunsite it is in /pub/Linux/Incoming 
>I didn't send a note to the operator yet but when I find the time
>i'll certainly will......

It is not in sunsite: /pub/Linux/Incoming.  Where did you put it in?
I also check apps/comm, it contains the 1.4 b version, dated 1992.
-- 
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|  Eric Lin                        Voice:   (204) 783-2884             |
|    Computer Engineering      FAX Modem:   (204) 783-2884             |
|    University of Manitoba     Internet:   [email-masked]   |

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas Michlmayr)
Subject: SLS 1.03 hangs on reboot
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 19:39:15 GMT

I just installed the SLS 1.03 on a 386-40 with 4 megs of RAM.

I had nearly no problems installing the system, and the machine now
runs just fine (including internet access and all).

BUT, whenever i su and want to reboot the machine, the system hangs 
itself without any reason or error message...

eg, i su and use the reboot command without any parameters, the machine 
hangs. (no errors,...)
shutdown -r now does the same.

anyone got an idea???

Thomas

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From: [email-masked] (David Watson)
Subject: Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC?
Date: 23 Sep 1993 23:08:37 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Steve Norton) writes:
|> [email-masked] (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) writes:
|> 
|> >It has seemed to me that my Linux system at home (X and GCC running in
|> >a 15mb partition, on a 386-40, with room to spare) is faster than the
|> >SUN IPC workstations I use at school.  I can only offer subjective 
|> >speculation though, ie. time for a xterm to open, etc... 
|>  
|> Now, I'm kind of biased.  I personally believe Sparcs are junk, and that
|> a 40Mhz motherboard with a 386 is just as good as a 40Mhz Sparc motherboard.

I run a computationally intensive xview program under Linux on a
486DX33 in 8 seconds.  The same program and data set on a Sun SPARC
takes 11 seconds.  Both compiles were gcc.
-- 
Dave Watson                          Internet: [email-masked]
Department of Mathematics                         Tel: (61 9) 380 3359
The University of Western Australia               FAX: (61 9) 380 1028
Nedlands, WA 6009  Australia.          Real data are full of surprises

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From: [email-masked] (Rick)
Subject: Re: Smail in 99pl9
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 00:13:31 GMT

[email-masked] (Volker Grimm) writes:

>I am running Linux .99pl9 and installed all of the SLS-Distrib.
>Since there are several persons working on my systems, lately we tried out 
>sending mail via elm. It turns up, that mail can be sent from everywhere to
>user root but no other user can receive mail. All the docs don't seem to talk

I vaguely remember this from my first installation.  As I recall, the
mail directory, /usr/spool/mail, had bad permissions.  Make sure that the
group is mail, and that the mode is 775.  If that doesn't help, try
passing a message directly to /usr/lib/sendmail (a link to smail) and
see how it's processing the message:

/usr/lib/sendmail -t -d9 <<EOF
To: <username here>

Test mesg
EOF

Rick.

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From: [email-masked] (Gregg Brekke)
Subject: Re: Future Domain SCSI
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 17:59:48 GMT

OK, 

To all of you who still can't get Linux to recognize your Future Domain
1680 SCSI card...

Try booting off of the SLS 3.5" A1 disk.  The 5.25" install disk doesn't
include 1680 recognition in the kernel.  I guess SLS either forgot to
update the kernel or didn't have room for all of the goodies on the
5.25" disk.

However, I switched my floppy cables around, booted the 3.5" A1 and
viola!!!  It recognized the 1680, my SCSI hard disk, SCSI tape drive, 
but fails on my CD-ROM (another problem...)  With the TEAC CD-ROM
disconnected, everything works great.

I hope this helps some others.  It seemed so absurd when I thought of
booting the other disk [they wouldn't have different kernel versions on
different sized distribution disk?] but it works.

Later,
Gregg

-- 

===========================================================================
 Gregg D. Brekke     Director of Network Operations, Global SchoolNet Fdn.
 [email-masked]            FrEdMail - The K-12 link to the InterNet

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From: [email-masked] (Juergen Prang)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: [A]RAWDISK.SYS: QIC-80 Backup of non-DOS disks
Date: 24 Sep 93 00:01:08 GMT

[email-masked] ($ Burkhard Kohl) writes:

>Juergen Prang ([email-masked]) wrote:

>: Currently a lot of work is done, to implement a driver for
>: QIC-80 (Floppycontroller-) Streamertapes. In the meantime I
>: decided to write a DOS device driver, that enables logical
>: access to non-DOS disks/partitions under DOS.

>As far as I know there is an drive for floppy tape streamers 
>for linux already available on sunsite.unc.edu:
>       /pub/Linux/kernel/tapes/ftape-0.9.tar.z
>or even higher.

I know of this driver too, I even tried it around the middle of
the year, but was somewhat disappointed. So I decided to write
the *DOS* driver to circumvent the potential problems ftape had
at that times, because I wanted to be able to backup my Linux HD
(I heard recently, that the last version ftape-0.9.6 should be
much more stable and reliable than earlier versions, but I
can not install it until I'll upgrade to at least 0.99pl12)

For now I'm able to take complete snapshots of my system (or at
least of my root partition) and are able to boot immediately after
restore. Something that is of some interest to me is exchanging
different free Unix OS's (ie Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD) on the same
partition in around three quarters of an hour via tape (or even shorter,
if I zip the complete partition into a file on our Novell server :-)

>As an aside I would like to say that we should not talk fo
>"QIC-80" drivers since QIC-80 only specifies the tape format.
>The signal interface is defined in (QIC-117 - hope that's right,
>i don't have my QIC interface list at hand). 

In terms of QIC specs you may be right (I don't know them), but
I used the term in the usual common sense to denote the type
of tape drive I have. But to clarify another point: I did not
write a QIC-xxx device driver for DOS, but a driver that maps
an arbitrary portion of my disk (my Unix partition) into a regular
DOS file, which I am capable to compress and backup using my
Central Point Backup Software delivered with my IOMEGA tape drive
(this gives me an image backup of my Unix partition in QIC-80
format, to be exact) or using any other useful DOS program and
storage medium (see paragraph above).

back,up & away
Juergen
-- 
   Juergen Prang           |     [email-masked]
   University of Duisburg  |********************************************
   Electrical Engineering  |     Logic is a systematic method of coming
   Dept. of Dataprocessing |     to the wrong conclusion with confidence

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.msdos,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: [email-masked] (Tim Reczek)
Subject: Setting active partition on second hard drive
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 01:56:44 GMT

Hi everyone,

    I have two hard drives: Westen Digital 340MB as master, Maxtor 130MB
as slave.  I was considering using the 130MB dive to run linux on while 
leaving the 340MB drive solely DOS.

Question: Can I make the linux partion on the 2nd drive the active partition?

I tried to do this with fdisk (with both drives having DOS partitions) and 
it said that only partions on the first drive can be made active.

Does this mean that I am unable to run linux on the 130MB drive because 
I can't make it the active partion (short of physically swapping the drives).

Admittedly I haven't delved much into linux, so I don't even know if this
makes a difference.  But if I have to have the linux partition on the first 
drive (the 340MB), I'll have to backup and repartion the whole thing (yuck!).
I'd really prefer to keep my O.S's on separate drives if possible.

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tim

[email-masked]
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Study nothing except in the knowledge that you already knew it. 
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