Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #257
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 10:13:09 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #257, Volume #6           Fri, 24 Sep 93 10:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  f90 (Eildert Groeneveld)
  3 Problems with Linux. Please Help! ([email-masked])
  Re: recompile kernel? ([email-masked])
  Re: SLS/Slackware/What?  (Brett Person)
  WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Jesper Honig Spring)
  Compiling Linux ( Xavier Juvigny)
  Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
  SCSI AHA 1542C boot Prob. solved (Johnnie Walker)
  Re: Compiling Linux (Fritz Ganter)
  Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Ole Sandum)
  Re: Appointment book under X ? (Martin Koch)
  Common Lisp on 486 machines? (Tomohiro Shibata)
  Re: minicom 4g (Danny ter Haar)
  Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? (Warner Losh)
  Re: Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor (Warner Losh)
  Re: SLS/Slackware/What? (Louis J. LaBash Jr.)
  Re: Setting up user accts. (Lars Wirzenius)
  Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive (Lars Wirzenius)
  Re: Compiling Linux (Lars Wirzenius)
  A DOS partition question... (John Banghart)
  Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Mark A. Davis)

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From: Eildert Groeneveld <[email-masked]>
Subject: f90
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:19:25 GMT

Does anyone know of a fortran 90 compiler that runs under Linux?
Comments would be appreciated.

Eildert Groeneveld

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Subject: 3 Problems with Linux. Please Help!
From: [email-masked]
Date: 23 Sep 93 21:13:19 -0800

I have a few problems.  

1)
First of all, I have .99pl12.  I notice sometimes my
keyboard locks on boot up.  I never had this problem on .99pl11 or less.  I
have tried to recompile the kernel with both NUMLOCK on and NUMLOCK off, but
with the same problem.  Pressing the numlock and/or scroll lock keys does not
toggle the lamps, so, this leads me to believe it is some kind of
driver/initialize problem.  I have tried different keymaps, but the keymaps
would not matter since the keyboard is not being recognized.
This happens regardless on if I use LILO or the standard raw boot image on a
floppy.

2)
Minicom-
The version that comes with SLS1.01 has some problems.  Pop up windows leave
strange characters on the screen when they disappear.  The VT100 emmulation is
not very good.  There are no linefeeds, and when I do a ^A A to turn linefeeds
on, stuff comes out double spaced.  When I try to recompile the distribution
for MINICOM on sunsite:/pub/linux... it compiles, but when I run it, I get a
Segmentation Fault and it dumps the core.  Is PCOMM any better?

3)
Someone mentioned this before, but I will bring it up since I think it needs
looking into by the developers of Linux.  Compiling is very irratic.  Sometimes
I get linker failures, sometimes I get compiler errors, but when I recompile
even without rebooting, everything compiles correctly.  There may be something
wrong with memory management, or the compiler itself, or maybe even a library
entry.

If anyone has any information on how I can remedy any of these problems, please
write private-email.  I will definately try them and post a report when I get
it fixed.

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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Subject: Re: recompile kernel?
From: [email-masked]
Date: 23 Sep 93 21:00:31 -0800

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] writes:
> I'm having problems with a com port and I suspect that the autoprobing
> for my 3c503 card may be resulting in an irq conflict. I get a
> spurious interrupt message after reboot and I can't setserial or stty -a
> cua1 or ttyS1. So I fixed the base address and irq for the 3c503 card
> in the net/inet/CONFIG file to 0x250 and irq5.
> 
> My question is: Do I have to recompile the entire kernel to implement
> this change?
> 
> I've been having problems with SLIP too and read in the NET-2-FAQ that
> the problem could be caused by compression. So I deleted the compression
> flag in the CONFIG file and recompiled...(it didn't fix the problem) but
> again, do I have to recompile the kernel? Since it takes about
> 1 1/2 hours to do (on a 386/25), it takes a little longer to hack a
> fix. :-0
> 
> Thanks!
> Stu

1-1/2 hours?  I have a 386SX/20 with 5 MB memory.  It does take a very long
time if I don't use a swap file.  I set up a 4 MB swap file and it takes about
30 minutes.

You still have to run make in /linux, however if all your other object files
are already compiled, it will see a newer date for the config file than the net
object, and only recompile net.  For everything else, it wont need to recompile
and it should say that everything is up to date.  Everything will have
to be re-linked, but that does not take much time.

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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From: [email-masked] (Brett Person)
Subject: Re: SLS/Slackware/What? 
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:59:51 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Dave Ferret) writes:
>Pardon me, I just got here.  
> 
>I've only heard of the SLS release, is Slackware another packaged 
>release, or what? How many others than SLS are there?  

Yes. It is another BETTER package.  Slackware's maintainer is much more
responsive to updates and general support than the SLS people are.  I think
this is because SLS is really intended for sale as a commercial product.
The SLS betas seem to just be proof-or-concept type things.  They work, but
you have to be pretty good at unix in general to get functional use out of
them.  There are many bugs and inconsistancies in SLS.  The man pages could
stand some real work, There are many duplicate executables in /bin
/sr/bin and elsewhere.  There are also duplicate man pages. 

SLS X is difficult to get running on even supported video cards. 
-- 
Brett Person
Guest Account   
North Dakota State University
[email-masked] || [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jesper Honig Spring)
Subject: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 08:31:41 GMT

Hello,

Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor)
a la WordPerfect for Linux. 

Thanks in advance,

Please (also) email me.

-- 
===============================================================================
     jesper honig spring                    department of computer science 
         [email-masked]                    university of copenhagen, denmark  
===============================================================================

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From: [email-masked] ( Xavier Juvigny )
Subject: Compiling Linux
Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:01:24 GMT

I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ...
my makefiles are for UNIX system! I have only Borland C++ 3.0
and GNU C (djgpp) to compile my sources.
I want to know how to compile LINUX with GNU C or with
Borland C++ 3.0.
Thanks to answer me.
JUVIGNY Xavier EMail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Steef S.G. de Bruijn)
Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 09:15:23 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:
|> Hello,
|> 
|> Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor)

TeX isn't a wordprocessor, it's a TYPESETTER, and a very good one! Besides, if
you like learning Emacs/Vi and lots of utilities lying around linux, this
combination gives you the ULTIMATE wordprocessor!

|> a la WordPerfect for Linux. 

Wordperfert sucks (it's no misspell!)

|> 
|> Thanks in advance,

Sorry, no offence

|> 
|> Please (also) email me.
|> 
|> -- 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>      jesper honig spring                    department of computer science 
|>          [email-masked]                    university of copenhagen, denmark  
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Steef

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From: [email-masked] (Johnnie Walker)
Subject: SCSI AHA 1542C boot Prob. solved
Date: 24 Sep 1993 09:51:06 GMT

Hi!

Thanks to everyone who answered my request. I tried again yesterday, 
and it looks like I just forgot to reconfigure the Computers Chipset Setup
(Shadow ROMs, Cacheable Areas) after installing the adapter card. At least,
I changed them and now it works.

--
Peter Koellner 
Student of Idiocy at the university of Dortmund
EMAIL:[email-masked] 

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From: [email-masked] (Fritz Ganter)
Subject: Re: Compiling Linux
Date: 24 Sep 1993 11:15:55 GMT

Xavier Juvigny ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ...
: my makefiles are for UNIX system! I have only Borland C++ 3.0
: and GNU C (djgpp) to compile my sources.
: I want to know how to compile LINUX with GNU C or with
: Borland C++ 3.0.
: Thanks to answer me.
: JUVIGNY Xavier EMail: [email-masked]

oh, I don't know if I understand you, do you want to compile Linux under
***MS-DOS*** ?????? I use Linux at home and at work for 6 months, and I mean
that Linux is a Unix-System, isn't it? And you would really compile it under
DOS? Don't you know, that, if you start Linux on DOS (ROTFL), it deletes all
files with the string 'Microsoft' in it?
Nice idea, very nice. But you can compile (and link!) Linux better under
Linux. So, first install Linux, then enjoy it, delete your DOS-partition,
*then* you can compile Linux :-))

Fritz 
--

Fritz Ganter                    Graz University of Technology, Austria
Email:  [email-masked], [email-masked]
HAM-Radio:                [email-masked], [email-masked] 
Phone:                +43 316 873-7222 (Office), +43 316 663243 (home)
   **********      Linux... try it, use it, love it.      ************

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From: [email-masked] (Ole Sandum)
Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 11:03:17 GMT

[email-masked] (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:

>Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor)
>a la WordPerfect for Linux. 

Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might
just start a holywar   :-)

-- 
==========================
Ole Sandum, <[email-masked]>

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From: [email-masked] (Martin Koch)
Subject: Re: Appointment book under X ?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 13:58:05 +0200

[email-masked] (Weihan Chang) writes:

>Is there a organizer/appointment book type program under X window
>for Linux ?

I prefer XCalentool. It is great!
Mail for schedules etc.

>Thanks.
>-- 
>*******************************************************
>*     Weihan Chang     :   (301) 622-0900 ext 305     *
>*     E-mail address   :   [email-masked]        *
>*******************************************************
---
Bye ;-)
Martin Koch            ---  email : [email-masked]
Bodelschwinghstraße 8  ---  phone : +49 5251 31104 Q  
D-33102 Paderborn
Germany
==============Escape the Gates of Hell, use Linux==========
Everyone's a foreigner - nearly everywhere  

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From: [email-masked] (Tomohiro Shibata)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Common Lisp on 486 machines?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 11:31:20 GMT

Hi, everybody.

  I want to use Common Lisp such as ExCL, KCL and AKCL.
Is there anyone out who can use such Lisp on 486 machines, and
on which OS do they run?

  I will appreciate any information.

--
================================
Tomohiro Shibata (email: [email-masked])
Department of Mechano-informatics,
University of Tokyo; Japan

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From: [email-masked] (Danny ter Haar)
Subject: Re: minicom 4g
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 09:17:53 

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Zhuo Er Lin) writes:
>
>It is not in sunsite: /pub/Linux/Incoming.  Where did you put it in?
>I also check apps/comm, it contains the 1.4 b version, dated 1992.
>
It is now, i'va put it there on 23 sep 18:20
The first one was corrupted somehow ...
I found a yell in the new-sunsite listing stating the tar was corrupted.
That's why it was probably put away ...

_____
Danny

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Danny ter Haar  <[email-masked]> or <[email-masked]>
PHILIPS DCC: combining the disadvantages of cd-rom's and tapes

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From: [email-masked] (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC?
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 04:29:32 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked]
(Steve Norton) writes: 
>[[sparcs are junk]]

We have a couple of older Sparc systems that compile OI and OB faster
than the 32M 486-33.  The Sparc system has 96M of memory and 3
Solbourne Series 5E's and very fast disks.  I've seen SCSI-2 disks
blow the doors off those old, slow klunky IDE drives.  I've also seen
IPI drive blow them both away.

Warner
-- 
Warner Losh             [email-masked]       ParcPlace Boulder
I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.

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From: [email-masked] (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: Got trouble: Linux doesn't see UltraStor SCSI adaptor
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:55:35 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked]
(Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account) writes: 
>If MCC doesn't see your adapter with default factory settings (which I'm
>using as I type [except for the transfer speed, which I upped a bit]), 
>then you should ask for help from one of the scsi gurus again, 'cause
>I'm not one of them.

The SLS release requires that you set the I/O mailbox port to 0x340.
At least that's what my 34F requires.

All this because the autoprobe code doesn't to know when a range of
ports is in use to not use them for other cards.

Warner
-- 
Warner Losh             [email-masked]       ParcPlace Boulder
I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.

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From: [email-masked] (Louis J. LaBash Jr. )
Subject: Re: SLS/Slackware/What?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 08:53:09 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Louis J. LaBash Jr. )

|From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)

|>In article <[email-masked]>, Dave Ferret <[email-masked]> wrote:
|>Pardon me, I just got here.  

[deleted...]] 

|Personally I've used SLS and Slackware. I prefer Slackware because it has
|many less bugs (at least in my case).
      ^^^^ ^^^^
Obviously, this person has never used the MCC-interim package :-).

Louis-ljl-

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From: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: Setting up user accts.
Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:03:14 +0300

[email-masked] (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
> Which works fine for me but when the users log in they don't have write
> permission to their own directory.

Are you sure it is their home directory that is the problem?  What
exactly is the error message, and what exactly was it they were trying
to do?

One possibility would be that somehow / or /home (assuming their
homedirectory was /home/name) did not have execute permission for
other or group.  Do

        ls -ld / /home /home/name

to see exactly what the permissions are.

> chmod 777 name

This should certainly allow the owner and anyone else to have write
permission to the directory.

--
[email-masked]  (finger [email-masked])
It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna

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From: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive
Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:11:33 +0300

[ Newsgroups line trimmed and folloups redirected to c.o.l.help.
  Please do not crosspost between the Linux groups unnecessarily. ]

[email-masked] (Tim Reczek) writes:
>     I have two hard drives: Westen Digital 340MB as master, Maxtor 130MB
> as slave.  I was considering using the 130MB dive to run linux on while 
> leaving the 340MB drive solely DOS.
> 
> Question: Can I make the linux partion on the 2nd drive the active partition?

I think these are your options:

a) boot Linux from floppy
b) boot Linux with bootlin (or whatever), a DOS program that boots
   Linux (i.e., you first boot DOS, and then use bootlin to boot
   Linux)

It is possible that the following might also work.  I have neither
experience nor documentation (at the moment):

c) you install LILO as the master boot record on your first hard drive
   and tell that to load Linux from the second hard drive

--
[email-masked]  (finger [email-masked])
It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna

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From: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: Compiling Linux
Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:17:09 +0300

[email-masked] ( Xavier Juvigny ) writes:
> I want to compile Linux but I have a big problem ...
> my makefiles are for UNIX system!

Not to mention that so are the filenames and some of the utilities
that you need to run...

Linux is not really meant to be compiled under DOS (cross-compilation
from another Unix system is easier to manage, though).  You probably
want to install Linux (from one of the many installation kits that are
available) and compile it under itself.

--
[email-masked]  (finger [email-masked])
It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna

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From: [email-masked] (John Banghart)
Subject: A DOS partition question...
Date: 24 Sep 1993 13:45:17 GMT

Let's say I partition my HD 110meg for linux, 10meg sway, and 50meg for
DOS.  Can I run DoubleSpace(which is what I have, so no flames about
stacker being better) on my DOS partition only?

Also, is there a way to partition my drive without having to delete
everything on it in the process?

-John

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:04:03 GMT

[email-masked] (Ole Sandum) writes:

>[email-masked] (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:

>>Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor)
>>a la WordPerfect for Linux. 

>Be careful. Terming WP as a wordprocessor might
>just start a holywar   :-)

I'm sure you just HAD to tell us that.  Try to keep your unproductive and
flame-bait opinions to yourself.  I think we are all growing very tired
of these same arguments over, and over.
-- 
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  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | [email-masked]   .uucp |
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