Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #265
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 03:13:05 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #265, Volume #6           Mon, 27 Sep 93 03:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: [Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters? (Valiant Gough)
  Re: Help with mounting dos partition  (Jim Wright)
  Re: find src for time (BARRY TITMARSH)
  Re: Non-US keyboards... and screens please too! (Excelsior Computer Services)
  Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested? (Patrick K. Ferrick)
  Re: WABI ??? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: PC for linux (Davor Cubranic)
  Re: Non-US keyboards... and screens please too! (Rafal Maszkowski)
  net-2 rlogin failed
  The smallest Linux?? (Alex Ramos)
  net-2 rlogin failed
  Xconfig for TVGA8900 here! -> (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
  net-2 rlogin failed
  Porting TCL/TK to Linux (Richard Bukowski)
  Re: Linux is very unstable (Peter Mutsaers)
  Re: Linux and CAP (Eduardo Kaftanski)
  Linux Install Summary (John Carroll)
  Re: Linux filesystem over multiple hard disks? (Mark Buckaway)
  Re: [Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters? (sn)
  Re: running X appl. by modem ? - XMOSAIC (sn)
  Re: net-2 rlogin failed (James W Abendschan)
  Re: net-2 rlogin failed

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From: [email-masked] (Valiant Gough)
Subject: Re: [Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters?
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 21:12:18 GMT

[problem with term dropping after a few characters deleted]
Howard Taylor ([email-masked]) wrote:
: this has happenned to me also.  I posted just a few days back, and got
: several responses and still had no luck with the suggestions that were
: given - actually I had thought of most of them already....

: if anyone has any clues, could they _please_ point them out.  I have been
: dying to try this out.....

  I had that same problem, until I figured out which characters weren't
making it through correctly.  Use the program 'linecheck' to find out what
should be escaped out - that fixed it for me.

Val Gough
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jim Wright)
Subject: Re: Help with mounting dos partition 
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 19:05:07 +0000

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:

>hi,
>  I installed linux recently.  When I first installed it I could mount
>dos which I had on /dev/hda1 ( the first hard drive), but now it
>won't mount.  If I try lilo and a couple of other programs to get
>to it, I get a bad majic number error.  Anyone have any such problems
>and how to correct it.
>                        Any help appreciated, 
>                                Steven
>
>

I once had a version of Linux fdisk, or efdisk, complaining about a bad magic
number but didn't take it too seriously. I suggest you try DOS fdisk or some
other tool such as Norton disk doctor to see if they spot the same problem.
You might find a tool that will correct the problem for you. I hope you have
got a bootable DOS floppy.

-- 
Jim Wright

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 22:32:45 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <[email-masked]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: find src for time

Yep thanks for the info... I did get from sunsite time-1.4  this was
inface the src for time that i was looking for  its much bigger then the
Old time in the SLS distr...  but its fixed the problem i had.
and given me much more logging ;-))
Barry

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From: [email-masked] (Excelsior Computer Services)
Subject: Re: Non-US keyboards... and screens please too!
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 19:16:34 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Risto Kankkunen) writes:
>>How to get not Latin-1 characters on the screen (e.g. a with ogonek).
>>Is there any package for it or I should write it? |-8=
>
>There is currently a hard-coded translation table from Latin1 to the PC
>character set in kernel/chr_drcv/console.c. To support other than Latin1
>character sets you need suitable hardware, fonts (and maybe translation
>tables) and some hard work. These kinds of things probably would benefit
>from video device drivers which don't exist at the moment...

For displaying other fonts, look at fontpak.  It defines escape
sequences for two things:  downloading EGA-style fonts, and selecting
those fonts.  Each VC can have its own font.  My hebrew font and a PD
Cyrilic font are pacakged with the package.

-Joel
([email-masked])
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                          cemetery.   But the young woman who was  buried  in
                    the place from where she came, at a distance of more than
             than 100 kilometers, enlarges the circle considerably.   And the 
      lonely man who is mourning her death in a distant  country incorporates
into the circle the whole world.  And I won't speak of the cry of the orphans
that reaches God's chair and from there makes the circle endless and godless."
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: [email-masked] (Patrick K. Ferrick)
Subject: Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested?
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 23:12:53 GMT

As the original poster, let me mention how I originally came up with the idea
of renting linux disks.  

1. As a recent convert from DOS to Linux, the _last_ thing I needed was
another thirty 3.5" diskettes!  I had plenty, and would have much preferred
someone letting me borrow their disks to install with and make copies from.

2. With only a 2400 baud modem, and nobody within quite a long ways running
linux, there really aren't that many alternatives!  

So I thought that offerring to make install disks available on a rental basis
might appeal to others in my situation.  Incidentally, though my initial
reaction to all the legal furor was to withdraw my offer, I am starting to
wonder if it really _is_ forbidden under the GPL.  I'm in the process of
reading it, and if we can go ahead with our plans we probably will.

pat

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: WABI ???
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 23:37:02 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Ralph Ballier <[email-masked]> wrote:
>What's about WABI for Linux???

On the board. Pre-alpha. Called WINE. check out directory /pub/linux/ALPHA/WINE
on tsx-11.mit.edu.

At last report Solitaire was almost working.

BAJ
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Davor Cubranic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: PC for linux
Date: 27 Sep 1993 00:01:57 GMT

TODOROV Krassimir ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I dont know if it is easy to answer to my questions,
: may be it is in the FAQ-s.

: What PC must I have to run linux on it?

RTF FAQ man or you'll miss a lot of fine information.
--
Davor Cubranic
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Rafal Maszkowski)
Subject: Re: Non-US keyboards... and screens please too!
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 00:10:51 GMT

Excelsior Computer Services ([email-masked]) wrote:
: For displaying other fonts, look at fontpak.  It defines escape
: sequences for two things:  downloading EGA-style fonts, and selecting
: those fonts.  Each VC can have its own font.  My hebrew font and a PD
: Cyrilic font are pacakged with the package.

Libor Skarvada pointed me by e-mail to SLS national package. I haven't
tried to run it yet but the programmes seem to be the same as in fntpak01
on funet and there is more fonts there.

R.
--
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snail: Omgangen 464-82, 412-80 Goteborg, Sweden; tel: +46-31-7780831      key
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From: ghhwang@pllab1 ()
Subject: net-2 rlogin failed
Date: 27 Sep 1993 01:37:29 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Alex Ramos)
Subject: The smallest Linux??
Date: 27 Sep 1993 01:26:21 GMT

I know about the SLS distribution and it's 55Meg (?) disk
requirements...  My question is, what is the smallest "neatly packaged"
(whatever that is :-]) Linux distribution? I do not need X as of right
now. Just a shell, minimal utilities, perl, and GNU C.

Can I realistically use Linux on a 30Meg partition? (I *need* a DOS
partition with at least MathCAD and pspice on it. That would take about
5M of my one and only 35M drive).

Does SLS lend itself easily to partial installation? What else could
I do?

Thanks in advance,
--
Alex Ramos            | Electrical Engineering | Fala-se Portugues, tche!
[email-masked] |  Louisiana Tech Univ.  | 2A 0C 40 22 ... C9 

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From: ghhwang@pllab1 ()
Subject: net-2 rlogin failed
Date: 27 Sep 1993 01:39:08 GMT

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From: [email-masked] (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
Subject: Xconfig for TVGA8900 here! ->
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 01:17:39 GMT

# TVGA8900 Xconfig --------------->
# The Following is a Xconfig file compiled by Bikram Dhaliwal
# ([email-masked]) for use with TVGA8900 cards
# So far tested only with a 1 meg board, and a el cheapo SVGA monitor
# have obtained resolution of 800x600 with enough mem for a 1024x1024 
# virtual display

# I assume no responsibility for this files (mis) use.  If you fry your
# monitor it is not my fault.  Actually if it works on my monitor it 
# should for everybody (like I said I have a pretty generic monitor).
#
# some nice paths, to avoid conflicts with other X-servers
#
RGBPath         "/usr/X386/lib/X11/rgb"
#FontPath       "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath        "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"

# Use this if the Type1 font code is in the server
#FontPath       "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"

# NoTrapSignals

#Xqueue

Keyboard
  AutoRepeat 500 5
#  Xleds      1 2 3
  ServerNumLock
#  DontZap

MicroSoft       "/dev/ttyS1"
  BaudRate      1200
  SampleRate    150
#  Emulate3Buttons

#
# Next the mono driver
#
vga256
        Chipset  "tvga8900c"
        Videoram 1024
        Viewport 0 0
        Virtual  1024 1024
        Clocks   25.2 28.3 44.9 36.0 50.35 40.35 65.0 75.0
        Modes    "800x600" "640x480"

ModeDB
# OFFICIAL VESA Monitor timings + IBM Standards - TRY THESE FIRST
# Contributor:          Thomas Roell [[email-masked]]
# Last Edit Date:       3/29/92
#
# name        clock   horizontal timing     vertical timing      flags
"640x480"       25      640 672 768 800  480 490 492 525
"800x600"       36      800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
-- 
========================
[email-masked]
Bikram Dhaliwal
(416) 845-4567

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From: ghhwang@pllab1 ()
Subject: net-2 rlogin failed
Date: 27 Sep 1993 02:01:04 GMT

Dear friends,
   I have installed SLS 1.03. There is net-2 binary code. However, when i use
the command "rlogin" the following message appeared:

  > rlogin sun370
  rcmd: socket: Permission denied

  Anyon can help me?

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Richard Bukowski)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Porting TCL/TK to Linux
Date: 26 Sep 1993 19:47:22 -0700

Has anyone successfully ported Tcl/Tk to Linux?  If so, I'd like
to hear from you.  I'm having problems with Tk3.3b3.

Rick

-- 
  Richard William Bukowski        |   Computer Science Department
  [email-masked]        |   University of California at Berkeley
      "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh "BOB" D'lyeh Wgah'nagl Dhobbz f'htagn."
  "The best way to accelerate a Macintosh is 9.8 m/s^2."  - J. Evans

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Mutsaers)
Subject: Re: Linux is very unstable
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 19:22:12 GMT

>> On Sun, 19 Sep 93 20:26:42 GMT, [email-masked] (Hugo
>> Eide Gunnarsen) said:

  HEG> Hi.
  HEG> I'm running linux-0.99.13 on my 80486DX50 16MB RAM 490MB IDE SMC ELITE
  HEG> SB16 ASP and MS160 cards.

  HEG> I used SLS 1.03.

  HEG> My problem is tat I can not get linux to run for more than 10h before
  HEG> it's craches.

I just came back from a 8 day holiday, and Linux is still running
fine. It has been receiving and handling a lot of news and email in
the meantime. Thus, Linux is very stable. You must have done something
wrong.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________
Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands.

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From: [email-masked] (Eduardo Kaftanski)
Subject: Re: Linux and CAP
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 04:38:58 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Edwin Ramirez) writes:
>Hello all,
>
>       I was wondering if anyone had considered porting the Columbia AppleTalk
>package over to Linux.  Are there any reasons why this can not be done?  

        I have a working port of CAP pl154, using UDP encapsulation. I
got everything compiled without that much effort. I nevertheless
(spelling?) have not managed to get the Shadow password support in aufs
working, ie, only works with out shadow passwds for people with null
passwds. I'll try to fix it this week, and then hopefully start looking
at Ethertalk/LocalTalk stuff. It would be very nice to see native
EtherTalk and LocalTalk support in CAP.

        I will make a patch availiable once I considere it finished.
That includes figuring out HOW to make a decent patch file ;-)

>
>
>Thanks in advance
>Edwin Ramirez

-- 
Eduardo Kaftanski

[email-masked]
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (John Carroll)
Subject: Linux Install Summary
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 17:23:05 GMT

About 2 weeks ago I began the lengthy process of installing Linux on my
machine.  I'll provide this information in case it should be in FAQs or
hardware compatability files:

Gateway2000 4DX2-66Vesa Tower
Gateway2000 CrystalScan 1572FS
Diamond Speedstar Pro
8MB RAM
WD Caviar 424MB IDE Drive
Panasonic KX-P1180

The only trouble I had getting the base system installed and working was
getting the printer interrupt reset (gets set to IRQ 0x00 at boot, disabling
printer).  This was easily accomplished with the tunelp.c program.  'lpd'
easily followed that.

I've got the getty-ps distribution but have not been able to make the ring back
work.  As a matter of fact I've not been able to actually log into my machine
via modem yet.  I'm looking forward to getting this working.

XFree86 installed and worked as-is, no problems with the Diamond Speedstar Pro
as suggested by some of the literature.  No modifications have been made to
Xconfig.

OpenLook compiled (with quite a bit of hacking) and olvwm works fine now.  I
still wish there was a Motif-like Window manager out there (that is FREE!), but
OpenLook is pretty nice, especially the HUGE virtual desktop provided.

Final analysis: Linux is GREAT!!!  I couldn't have afforded a 'UNIX' this nice
if I'd had to buy one, so anyone out there who's undecided whether they want to
spend the time getting Linux up and working, trust me, it's worth it.

Cheers and GO BRAVES! 8^)

John

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Buckaway)
Subject: Re: Linux filesystem over multiple hard disks?
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 11:00:40 GMT

David E. Beaupre ([email-masked]) wrote:
: This may be a FAQ, but I haven't read the most recent FAQ yet.

: Can someone tell me if Linux will create one logical filesystem over
: multiple physical hard disks?  In other words, if I have 2 40 MB hard
: disks can I configure Linux to mount one 80 MB filesystem that would
: span the two hard disks?

No. But you can create a soft link to your root partition or any other
partition to use those drive. For example, mount one drive as /usr1
and make a soft link from /usr1 to say /usr/spool/uucp.

Mark
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From: [email-masked] (sn)
Subject: Re: [Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters?
Date: 26 Sep 1993 17:28:13 GMT

[email-masked] (Howard Taylor) writes:

>this has happenned to me also.  I posted just a few days back, and got
>several responses and still had no luck with the suggestions that were
>given - actually I had thought of most of them already....

>if anyone has any clues, could they _please_ point them out.  I have been
>dying to try this out.....

>thanks,
>--> howard

OK then. I had this problem when the escape codes were wrong. Make
sure you put the codes linecheck gives you on the OTHER machine and
vice versa.
Also, I had to remove the default "ignore 17/19" lines.
Now it works excellent...

-Sven

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From: [email-masked] (sn)
Subject: Re: running X appl. by modem ? - XMOSAIC
Date: 26 Sep 1993 17:34:31 GMT

[email-masked] (James B. MacLean) writes:

>>Well, they told me "patience is a virtue" and I'm finally putting that
>>to use when running Xmosaic with term via 14.4 Kbps USR Sportster modem.
>>It takes 1.5 - 2.0min for a 640x480 weather satellite photo to come up,
>>which ain't too bad considering what you're getting! If you have something
>>else to do (e.g. browse text in another Xmosaic window :-) so much the
>>better!

>>Karl

I'm using the xmosaic binaries for TERM from sunsite and I experience
frequent crashes, sometimes taking the X Server down with them
(this is with XFree86 1.3). Any ideas? Is it term's fault or xmosaics's?

-Sven

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From: [email-masked] (James W Abendschan)
Subject: Re: net-2 rlogin failed
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 05:07:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> ghhwang@pllab1 () writes:
>Dear friends,
>   I have installed SLS 1.03. There is net-2 binary code. However, when i use
>the command "rlogin" the following message appeared:
>
>  > rlogin sun370
>  rcmd: socket: Permission denied
>
>  Anyon can help me?
>
>[email-masked]

I suspect rlogin is not suid root.  I know that whenever *I* try to
compile my own little version of rlogin and don't run it as root I 
get that message :)

To fix, do a chmod 4555 /usr/ucb/rlogin and chown root /usr/ucb/rlogin.

Hope that helped..

James

-- 
$10C3: back to your quiet nightmares

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From: ghhwang@pllab1 ()
Subject: Re: net-2 rlogin failed
Date: 27 Sep 1993 06:05:07 GMT

ghhwang@pllab1 wrote:

Thanks. I have solved this problem by "chmod 4755 rlogin".

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