Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #276
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 93 13:13:16 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #276, Volume #6           Thu, 30 Sep 93 13:13:16 EDT

Contents:
  NovellLite and SLS (Studenten)
  Refresh problems with X386/S3 package in Slackware (Jean-Pierre Sarrato)
  [SUMMARY] ( WAS WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFILE ) ([email-masked] (Rachid BELMOUHOUB ))
  Re: HARDWARE: Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM anyone? (Tom Reynolds)
  Oakdriver for X (OPV 5-51 - THE ORANGE FARM)
  Re: kermit drop lines on exit (Tom Reynolds)
  Re: A DOS partition question. (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
  AT&T ct Work-a-like Software Wanted (Ralf Vogt)
  Re: SoftLanding Message (John R. Campbell)
  passwd doesn't work anymore (Thomas J Bilan)
  install prob. ([email-masked])
  Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro X problems (Stefan Wolf)
  Re: DOS based GUNZIP? (Yi-Tsun Chang)
  X errors over phone lines. (Rick Johns)
  Re: WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFIL (Andrew R. Tefft)
  Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) (Thomas Dunbar)
  Installing Linux (A.S.Williams)

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From: [email-masked] (Studenten)
Subject: NovellLite and SLS
Date: 30 Sep 1993 13:21:23 GMT

  I have three PCs (386/486) connect via Ethernet NE2000. On two of these
  I installed NWLite 1.1 for printer and HD sharing. Recently, I tried Linux 
  on the third one and it's really great. I read that Linux supports NFS.
  Questions:
     1. What exactly is NFS.
     2. Is it possible to access NWLite Server for printing and file-serving
        under Linux. I have IPXODI or IPXPKT as protokoll
     3. Or can NWLite simulate NFS in any way.
     4. Can I use TCPIP and IPX concurrently when running one PC with Linux
        and the others with NWLite. (with PKT and ODI driver it works, because
        with these you can bind multible protokolls to one LAN-Card, but I
        dont't know how Linux handles the net)

                        all infos are appreciated
                                     Alex
                                 [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jean-Pierre Sarrato)
Subject: Refresh problems with X386/S3 package in Slackware
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 13:14:40 GMT

    I have experienced refresh problems with xs3: after opening a pull-down 
menu over a window and releasing the mouse button, the menu, however inactive,
remains visible and I have to refresh the window manually. Is it a known bug?
And in that case, how to solve it?

                                                JPS

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc.help,comp.os.linux
From: [email-masked] (Rachid BELMOUHOUB <[email-masked]>)
Subject: [SUMMARY] ( WAS WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFILE )
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 93 13:01:41 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Rachid BELMOUHOUB <[email-masked]>) writes:
|> Hi,
|>  I have succefully now installed the SLS 1.03 release, on my 486DX50 clone,
|>  I went through the Linux user's guide in search of informations about how to
|>  configur my system but haven't found lot of things about the file .profile
|>  I tryed to set the PATH environment variable to run X11, I did like in my
|>  .cshrc file on a sun at work but after sourcing the .profile, I have run
|>  printenv and none of the changes I've made was taken, I tryed unset PATH
|>  and I had an answer that the systen can't unset PATH. Is there any document
|>  that explains how to do this, or any one here that could help me.
|> 
|>  Thanx
|> 
|>  Rachid 

First of all I would like to thank all the people that replyed to my post
I have learned a lot. It would be impossible to send to each of them
a mail, so thank you all!

this is a summary of the answers I've had to my problem, the firts important
thing is to read the man pages for bash.

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From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 16:26:01 1993

The bash manual could help.

The syntax of setting variables in csh is weird. If your using the
Linux default shell (bash) then don't try to use the csh syntax.

Try something like:

PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:.
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From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 14:41:54 1993

well, this is probably the gazillionth reply, but. your profile's found
in /etc. it's called profile (as opposed to .profile).
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From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 14:19:38 1993

with the SLS there comes am /etc/profile.
This is the common data-base file for all users.
The .profile is only used when Your shell is /bin/sh.
If Your shell is /bin/bash You have to create a .bashrc in Your homedirectory.
Here's mine:
========begin ~/.bashrc =========
.profile
========end ~/.bashrc ===========

If You want a shell like Suns csh You should get the tcsh-package.
it's on tsx-11 under: /pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/tcsh-6.04.tar.gz
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From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 14:51:08 1993

.profile is for bash and sh. you don't source it, you 'dot' it
to run it. . ~/.profile

.cshrc and .login are for csh (tcsh). You source them to run them.

environment variables are for csh. They are propagated to subshells.
csh also has variables which are not propagated to subshells.

PATH in sh is just a variable. You must say export PATH after you
change it, to propagate its value to subshells.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 17:26:53 1993

        echo $PATH
this shows the current value of path.

If you want to change the PATH variable anyway use:
        PATH=<new_path>
or 
        PATH=$PATH:<extra_path>
for example if you wanna add /usr/X386/bin to your path
        PATH=$PATH:/user/X386/bin
_______________________________________________________________________________
From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 15:49:31 1993

Your .profile uses bourne type syntax and thus your .cshrc from the sun will
NOT work as it is csh.

You need to either get tcsh (csh clone) working and use all your Sun .cshrc
and .login type files or read the bash man page (for .profile) thoroughly.

e.g. setting up PATH

On csh (.cshrc)
        % setenv PATH /usr/bin:/bin:/etc:./

On bash (.profile)
        % export PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/etc:./
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From [email-masked] Wed Sep 29 15:04:47 1993

Like /etc/profile is the common database for sh /etc/csh.cshrc
is the common database for tcsh.
Make a link : ln -s /bin/tcsh /bin/csh
Now You can say "csh" for Your shell.
/etc/csh.cshrc doesn't exist yet, You have to create it; here's mine:

=======begin /etc/csh.cshrc =========
# common database for all users
# only german users have the csh so the German keyboard is loaded
# here and not in the /etc/rc.local
/etc/loadkeys /usr/lib/keytables/gr-latin1.map
setenv NOREBIND
setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1
# the next 3 lines are necessary to show the german Umlaute
foreach key ( \\374 \\334 \\366 \\326 \\344 \\304 )
   bindkey $key self-insert-command
end
set openwinhome=(/usr/openwin)
set path=($path /usr/TeX/bin /usr/local/bin /usr/bin/X11 $openwinhome/bin ~/bin .)
set prompt="%n@%m:%~<%!> "
set prompt1="> "
alias h          history 50
alias more      less
alias rm        rm -i
alias md        mkdir
alias rd        rmdir
alias up        cd ..
alias ll        ls -al
alias ls        ls -F
alias dir       ls -l
alias up        cd ..
alias cp        cp -i
alias mv        mv -i
alias home      cd $HOME
alias more      less
alias rm        rm -i
alias md        mkdir
alias rd        rmdir
alias ls        ls -F
alias dir       ls -l
alias ..        cd ..
alias cp        cp -i
alias mv        mv -i
----end /etc/csh.cshrc ---------

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Rachid BELMOUHOUB ( rsm pour les amis )      E-mail:[email-masked]
Ecole des Mines de Paris
Centre d'Informatique Geologique

"si parvenir aupres de l'ami, est impossible. | "A Woman needs a man like 
L'autre ami se devra de mourir, le cherchant" |  fish needs a bicycle" U2  :-)
( Le Gulistan, Saadi poete et soufi Persan)   |

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Reynolds)
Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM anyone?
Date: 30 Sep 1993 13:59:59 GMT

Thus spake SEAN MICHAEL SCOGGINS :

>Is anyone using the Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM with Linux?  I found no
>mention of it in the hardware list, and don't want to but it without knowing if it is going to work.
>
>Do CD-ROM with their own interface cards work in general with Linux?

Yup.  Got a Mitsumi and love it for the mney I paid and the amount I use it
(just about never :) 

Configuring the Mitsumi to work with Linux is a snap.   In fact, pl13 has
Mitsumi support in the kernel code (pl12 may, too).  If you're working with
some older kernel (?)  UPGRADE! No, seriously, there is a patch somewhere
on tsx to your kernel sources for support.  It's by a guy name Martin Harris.
It's called, I think mcd-somtheting.tar.z 

--
Thanx!

Tom Reynolds

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#include <disclaimer.h> /* Any flames go to /dev/null and the views held
                           are not necessarily those of the personality 
                           Currently controlling me. */

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From: [email-masked] (OPV 5-51 - THE ORANGE FARM)
Subject: Oakdriver for X
Date: 30 Sep 1993 06:51:57 GMT

Hello Linuxers

I am looking for a oakdriver so that i can run X in color. Let me state it
this way, I have looked for one but could not find one and now I am
asking you if you have found one or maybe if you come across one if you
could send it to me.

Thank you very much. 8-)

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Reynolds)
Subject: Re: kermit drop lines on exit
Date: 30 Sep 1993 14:05:45 GMT

Thus spake Laurent Chavey:

>I am trying to connect to the Univ net through the modem, and then use term
>on both ends to establish multiple connect.
>steps taken.
>linux> kermit
>kermit>dial xxxxxxx
>kermit>c
>login udelnet>
>passwd udelnet>
>udelnet>term
>escape sequence back to kermit on linux
>kermit>!term </dev/modem >/dev/modem &

Don't know if this is significant enough to help, but I never run term in
the background.  I just do this:

HP-UX [1]% term
<escape sequence>
Kermit> !term <>/dev/cua2

This works like a charm, but when you kill term, it hangs up the line.
It's possible (not sure) that backgrounding term will cause it to die
(like some programs do) and this may in turn hang up your line.

--
Thanx!

Tom Reynolds

[email-masked]
[email-masked]
[email-masked]

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Subject: Re: A DOS partition question.
From: [email-masked] (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
Date: 30 Sep 93 13:58:22 +0100

John Will ([email-masked]) wrote:
: J >Also, is there a way to partition my drive without having to delete
: J >everything on it in the process?

: Nope.  Welllllll, maybe.  I have a program FIPS08.ZIP that I found on
: a BBS, it will shrink a disk partition if it's the only one on the disk.

Not maybe, there is. Fips works OK, but only with DOS partitions. It can
be other partitions in the drive, from wherever and whicherver taste, but
fips will only split DOS ones. All you need is to have all the data at the
beginning of the partition (use Norton's SD) and call fips. It'll give you
the partition table, prompt you which part to split, and to what extent. If
it has some problem, leave the part table untouched, so it's fairly secure.
You can found it at sunsite.unc.edu.

     Miguel Alvarez Blanco           "All that is gold does not glitter,
[email-masked]      not all those who wander are lost."
  [email-masked]                   Bilbo Baggins.

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From: [email-masked] (Ralf Vogt)
Subject: AT&T ct Work-a-like Software Wanted
Date: 30 Sep 1993 15:50:51 +0100

Does anyone know where I can get software for linux which implements
the "dial a phone number and then spawn a getty" function of ct?

Thanks.
rv

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From: [email-masked] (John R. Campbell)
Subject: Re: SoftLanding Message
Date: 29 Sep 93 22:20:52 GMT

[email-masked] (Brett Michaels) writes:

>Thanks for the help.  The file /etc/issue contains this message.  You can
>edit it or remove to your liking.  

>Anyone know what program/script calls displays this file?

Getty itself display this, as the shell, during startup (I don't find
it in a script) displays the contents of /etc/motd

I tend to put in my nodename at the left margin and the IP address at the
right.  While not the most logical approach, it is mildly entertaining.

BTW, the "login" prompt is generated from the line in /etc/gettydefs,
so you can modify that prompt too...

-- 
 John R. Campbell                                    [email-masked]
                                                or:     uunet!kd3bj!penrij!soup

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: passwd doesn't work anymore
Date: 30 Sep 1993 15:26:00 GMT

When I'm the superuser I type:  
passwd username
to change a passwd and I get a dump of the passwd file with No such file or
directory tacked onto the end of it.

I must have changed something in the last week or so because it was working
fine before.

Thanks,
Tom

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: install prob.
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 15:40:07 GMT

Hi!
I just started installing Linux and when i used rawrite to write
a1.5 (from SLS) to a 5.25" floppy everything went fine - however
when I tried booting it, evrry option (ramdisk,floppy,harddisk)
brings me a recurring message:
ramdisk.
error 0X00
booting ramdisk
error 0X00
booting ramdisk.
error 0X00
etc..
what's the deal?

thanks, [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Stefan Wolf)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro X problems
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:12:43 GMT

Hi,
i had the same problem with my ATI GUP. What solved my problem was 
reconfiguring the Card to seperated VGA and accelerator mem.
My card was set to mem=shared and X messed up the screen on leaving.
With setting VGA ram size to 256, 512 or 1024 byte my screen is now
ok. This change can be done with the install utility that came with the
ATI card.
Hope that helps
         Stefan
--
Stefan Wolf
Technische Hochschule Darmstadt    Voice: (06151) 163078
Institut fuer Datentechnik         Fax:   (06151) 164976
Merckstrasse 25                    E-mail:
D-64283 Darmstadt                    [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Yi-Tsun Chang)
Subject: Re: DOS based GUNZIP?
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:19:45 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked]
 (Chris Wood) writes:
>
>        I'd like to test all the .tgz files after ftp'ing before going
>        ahead with the installation to make sure they all ftp'ed
>        correctly, is there a DOS based gzip/gunzip around I could
>        use?
>
>        Thanks,
>
>CW.
>==============================================================================
>Chris Wood.                                 "You Screwy Rabbit" - Yosemite Sam
>[email-masked]
>GST Software Products (R&D)                            Tel: (+44) 0480 496789.
>Meadow Lane, St Ives, Cambridgeshire, PE17 4LG.        Fax: (+44) 0480 496189.
>==============================================================================
Yes, there is. Try sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/gnu

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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x
From: [email-masked] (Rick Johns)
Subject: X errors over phone lines.
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 15:50:57 GMT

Hi.  I have a user who's running my application from home and displaying it
on a PC with Linux running X11R5.  The server at work is X11R4 (HP-UX 8.0)
and the application was compiled with X11R4 libraries.  This is running 
over "term", which he says is Linux's compressed communication protocol.

When the application comes up, it tends to crash very easily with:

Xlib:  sequence lost (0x10000 > 0x1f) in reply type 0x0!
X Error of failed request:
  Major opcode of failed request:  0 ()
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  0
  Current serial number in output stream:  31

This happens when the window first appears or when he moves a window.
What does this mean?  Any suggestions?  Thanks.

Cheers,
 Rick Johns
 BNR
 [email-masked]

Disclaimer: I said it, BNR didn't.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc.help,comp.os.linux
From: [email-masked] (Andrew R. Tefft)
Subject: Re: WHAT HAVE I TO DO TO SET UP THE .PROFIL
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 15:42:00 GMT

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Bryan E. Glancey Jr) writes:
>       ME TO!! Also, any information anyone can give me on which are
>the auto running shell files (I am used to the .cshrc and .login) would
>be apreciated.

The information you desire can probably be found in the bash man page.

However there is no need to learn bash unless you want to. csh and tcsh
are both available for Linux. Look on your favorite Linux ftp site if
they're not already on your system. Once you get them, use chsh to
set your default shell (must be listed in your /etc/shells).

---

Andy Tefft               - new, expanded .sig -     [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas Dunbar)
Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout)
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:09:51 GMT

or:

Operating Systems:     ------Linux-------
                       -----XFree86------
                       ------Emacs-------
                              ...
                              ...
Editors:               -joe-jove-vi-elvis-vile--

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From: [email-masked] (A.S.Williams)
Subject: Installing Linux
Date: 30 Sep 1993 18:07:07 +0100

I've just come across this group and I was wondering what files I need to
install Linux.
Also, what can Linux do?  Can it run DOS programs via a shell?  Does it require
its own partition like xenix?

Thanks in advance,

Andy.

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