Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #280
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 22:13:19 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #280, Volume #6            Fri, 1 Oct 93 22:13:19 EDT

Contents:
  Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? ([email-masked])
  Re: #### PLEASE, DON'T CROSSPOST ##### (Steve Tinney)
  Undelete (Shame! 2000 OG!!)
  Re: DOS based GUNZIP? (Chris Wood)
  Re: Installing Linux from Hard Drive ($ Burkhard Kohl)
  problem with term (Laurent Chavey)
  STB Multiport serial woes ... (Scarrow)
  Re: Installing Linux (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
  Re: LILO and MBR (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
  Re: [summary] Installing Linux newbie (Mark A. Horton)
  IDE Support (Dave Rasmussen)
  X Video Compatibility (Scott Drassinower)
  DOS From Linux (Scott Drassinower)
  Help! NFS problem with .99pl13 ([email-masked])
  Re: Booting probs with SLS 0.99 (Kevin Matassa)
  Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Robb Shecter)
  lpr: connect: .... (Timothy Mark Lawless)
  Re: Looking for info about MacLinux ([email-masked])
  SLS and SLACKWARE!?? ([email-masked])
  Linux configuration for 3c503 card  (Giuseppe Martoni)

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together?
Date: 1 Oct 93 19:00:53 +0100

Anyone know if you can or cannot have MSDOS/DRDOS, Windows NT and Linux all
on one PC?
-- 
[email-masked]  "If I were to read, much less to answer all the attacks made
on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very
best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the
end. If the end brings me out alright, what is said against me won't amount to
anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right
would make no difference." [Abraham Lincoln, reported by Francis B Carpenter].

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Tinney)
Subject: Re: #### PLEASE, DON'T CROSSPOST #####
Date: 1 Oct 93 15:51:16 GMT

Karsten Steffens ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hello fellow Linuxers, please take a decision: the decision where to post
: your messages. I find it rather annoying, when I see many articles in
: COL  and the same in COL.* (except COL.Announce, because its moderated). The

Hear, hear! One newsgroup is quite enough to post to!

: list is split up that long now, most sites now should carry all the COL.* now.
: Or am I wrong there?

: Best regards, and happy Linuxing! Karsten
: -- 
: ------------------>         Karsten Steffens        <---------------------
:    [email-masked]          |      [email-masked]
: Marl - close to Recklinghausen     |         Institut fuer Kernphysik
:   North of the Ruhrgebiet          |   Westf.Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster

 Steve

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From: en143037@hkpu01 (Shame! 2000 OG!!)
Subject: Undelete
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 20:10:26 GMT

Hi, all,
  I recently erase a very important directory /usr, so can anyone tell
me whether there is an 'undelete'-like utilities for Linux (or Unix)
such that I can recover the files or directories immediately!!
  Thanks in advance!!
Regards
Tung

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Wood)
Subject: Re: DOS based GUNZIP?
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:42:34 +0000

TITLE: Re: DOS based GUNZIP.

        Thanks to all those who replied, prep.ai.mit.edu was the
        answer in /pub/gnu. Have 10 points each.

CW.

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From: [email-masked] ($ Burkhard Kohl)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux from Hard Drive
Date: 1 Oct 1993 18:40:00 GMT

Dave Mueller ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I'm trying to install Linux from my Hard Drive instead of having to put
: everything on floppies.

: But, I can't seem to get sysinstall to do this!  Could someone give me the
: steps necessary to do this!  Including what directories/files you need on
: the C: drive.

Look into the sysinstall/doinstall-skript - it expects to find files in
certain places. I have done this too, but it is to long ago to remember.
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From: [email-masked] (Laurent Chavey)
Subject: problem with term
Date: 1 Oct 1993 19:47:27 GMT

I am trying to connect between two computer using modem.
I have all ready read all the info that was posted about
how to use term, and trsh etc. I have the term version
now available from sunsite, running on the sun4 at the univ of del.
here are th steps that I follow for connection

from linux.
csh>Kermit
Kermit>dial
Kermit>connect
udelnet>connect to host
login
passwd
csh sun4>term
" escape back to Kermit using escape sequence"
Kermit>
at this stage I have tried more than one alternative.
1. put Kermit in background
Kermit>^z
csh>term </dev/modem >/dev/modem &
csh>trsh
"nothing go on."
"but I see the modem rc,sn going on/off"

csh>^c
at that stage if I go back to Kermit
csh>jobs [Kermit#]
Kermit> "garbage is being displayed, all the time the same"

another alternative is to
Kermit>!term </dev/modem >/dev/modem &
Kermit> then garbage will show up.

can someone help me with this problem.
are the two copies of term that I am using incompatible.
is Kermit doing the mess.
If so can I get a simple connection package, that I can
exit as soon as I am done making the connection, and that will not drop
the line.
help!!
help!!

thank you.

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From: [email-masked] (Scarrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: STB Multiport serial woes ...
Date: 1 Oct 1993 12:53:21 -0700

Having read this and that, I decided to go ahead with a purchase of the STB
four port serial card (sort of an AST fourport clone).  Well, after having
finally navigated the difficulties (we had to purchase 9-pin to 25-pin
converters to attach our modems ... and of course they screwed up the gender
the first time) it seems that it is ignoring incoming data.  To explain, if
I send, for example, ATZ, I see the modem flash both send and receive (as it
echoes the ATZ and then sends the OK).  So the modem is functioning properly
and is sending the responses back, but I never see these responses on the
screen under kermit.  I checked the cables out themselves and, according to
the docs I have, all the pins matched up just fine.  (Then again, the docs
came from the people who made the cables ... *wink*)  Anyway, I have some
small suspicion that, because I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, it might
be something in the software end.  I'm running SLS 1.03 currently (0.99pl12
theoretically) and setserial 2.02.  My rc.serial looks something like this
for the four ports:

    /etc/setserial /dev/cua4 uart 16550A irq 15 port 0x1f8
    /etc/setserial /dev/cua5 uart 16550A irq 15 port 0x1e8
    /etc/setserial /dev/cua6 uart 16550A irq 15 port 0x2a8
    /etc/setserial /dev/cua7 uart 16550A irq 15 port 0x1a8

Obviously, at least some of this is working, as transmitted characters go
through okay.  I used mknod to make nodes for cua4-cua7 and ttyS4-ttyS7, by
simply incrementing minor device numbers (I actually made nodes for cua2-cua7
and ttyS2-ttyS7), since they didn't exist previously.  Any comments, etc.,
would be extremely welcome.  :)

-- 
Shawn L. Baird (Scarrow) | "By all means, take the moral high ground --
[email-masked] | all that heavenly backlighting makes you a
=========================| much easier target."  ==Solomon Short

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Subject: Re: Installing Linux
From: [email-masked] (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
Date: 1 Oct 93 18:43:34 +0100

A.S.Williams ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I've just come across this group and I was wondering what files I need to
: install Linux.
: Also, what can Linux do?  Can it run DOS programs via a shell?  Does it require
: its own partition like xenix?

: Thanks in advance,

: Andy.

Files: Find a distribution that suits you at sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/...

What Linux can do: Do you know what a Unix System can do? That's what Linux is,
 and so you can read the unix FAQ, and also Linux one 8^)

DOS programs: Yes, through an emulator. Some programs don't work, but they are
 really few 8^))))

Partition: Of course, it requires it's own partition, and if you give it a
 try, you'll end up giving it all your disk/s 8^))))))))

Seriously: Linux can do multitasking, multiprocessing, run X applications and
 a lot more things. But the main point: I've tried our scientific code at my
  486. With a good DOS compiler, it takes almost 600 sec for a test run. With
 Linux, and a really weird compilation (first, translate Fortran to C. Then
 use the gcc compiler), it only takes 240 sec for the same run! (watch here,
 MicroSoft!). Definitely, give it a try.

     Miguel Alvarez Blanco           "All that is gold does not glitter,
[email-masked]      not all those who wander are lost."
  [email-masked]                   Bilbo Baggins.

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Subject: Re: LILO and MBR
From: [email-masked] (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
Date: 1 Oct 93 18:47:27 +0100

dikui021 ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi Linuxers,

: I've installed lilo on my two-disk SCSI system on which i also run
: (ran) OS/2 and occasionally DOS. LILO has installed itself on the
: Master Boot Record and is unable to boot OS/2. It can, however,
: occasionally boot OS/2's Boot Manager, but that seems to have 
: crashed, why I dont know.

: How do I boot OS/2 from LILO? OS/2 and Linux Swap is on disk 1
: and Linux fs and DOS is on disk 2. I dunno where the MBR is,
: presumably on disk 1, but DOS FDISK says the disk is not
: startable and furthermore Linux FDISK and DOS FDISK swap
: the drives such that /dev/sda == disk2 and /dev/sdb == disk2.

: What's going on?

: maz
: ([email-masked])

Try with the config file of lilo, /etc/lilo/config. Read lilo docs (if they
are not in your system, search at sunsite), they tell you how to set up
lilo for booting everything. I use it to boot DR-DOS, and I know that it
can boot OS/2 too.

Good luck!

     Miguel Alvarez Blanco           "All that is gold does not glitter,
[email-masked]      not all those who wander are lost."
  [email-masked]                   Bilbo Baggins.

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From: [email-masked] (Mark A. Horton)
Subject: Re: [summary] Installing Linux newbie
Date: 1 Oct 1993 14:06:46 -0700

James F Hall ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Since I had so much help from the readers of the net on how to install
: my Linux system, and since there is not much documentation on the
: subject for non-computer-geniuses (like myself), I thought I would
: summarize how to install Linux for first-time Linux users.  This
: should repay at least part of my debt to you all!  :-)

: Now, if only I can get X to work...  :-)

: --James
[bunch of stuff deleted ]
 
        There is a wealth of information regarding this topic in
        the Installation-HOWTO (as well as the other -HOWTO files
        in /pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO  at sunsite.unc.edu  as well as in
           /pub/linux/docs/HOWTO  at tsx-11.mit.edu  (just wish I had
        known about it when I struggled getting everything running!
        -- but then, some suffering is good for the soul, no?)
                Peace, Mark
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                "=" has the meaning "may be confused with."  

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From: [email-masked] (Dave Rasmussen)
Subject: IDE Support
Date: 1 Oct 1993 22:11:57 GMT

Does Linux support hard drives on a IDE VLbus controller?

-- 
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From: [email-masked] (Scott Drassinower)
Subject: X Video Compatibility
Date: 1 Oct 1993 18:27:00 -0400

I had a couple of questions about X Windows with a few different video cards:

1) I am using a generic Paradise (Western Digital) color SVGA card with
256k of RAM.  When I load X (startx), it first comes up in grey, then
switches to color.  Then, all sorts of weird lines come up when I try to
move a window.  Also, areas of the screen are not updated properly.  I am
using the '00' WD setup (I think the full name is wd30c00 in Xconfig, not
really sure). 

2) I know that currently there is no support for ATI Mach32.  When will
support for these cards be available?  Also, what about support for the
Hercules Graphite (IIT's AGX chip).

3) I am very new to the Unix world, and was wondering if there is a way to
make X look like Solaris 2.2 (or something similar -- from what I have
seen, it looks pretty dull).

Thanks for any replies. 

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From: [email-masked] (Scott Drassinower)
Subject: DOS From Linux
Date: 1 Oct 1993 18:31:18 -0400

I have a couple of questions about using DOS from Linux.

1) I know that there is a DOS emulator that comes with Linux (I think I
have SLS 1.03, and the kernel is 00.99.12), and I know it was installed,
but how can I use it?  

2) It seems there is a way to mount my DOS partition (/dev/hda1) from
Linux, but there was never an entry for it created in fstab, and the same
goes for my swap partition (/dev/hda3).  I also haven't been able to
access the floppy drives (fd0 is 3.5" 1.44MB, fd1 is 5.25: 1.2MB).

3) Also, has anyone tried to use a Linux machine as a server on Windows
for Workgroups?  I assume you would need the WFW TCP/IP drivers from
Microsoft ($25 extra).

Thanks.

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Subject: Help! NFS problem with .99pl13
From: [email-masked]
Date: 1 Oct 93 09:11:13 -0800

I posted a message earlier about my NFS problem, but did not get any replies.

I am running .99pl13 with NFS and cannot mount a filesystem on another system. 
When I boot up .99pl9-6 I can mount it fine.

I notice that when .99pl9-6 boots, it said 3c503 GOT IRQ 5, but when .99pl13
boots it shows the unique address but does not show an IRQ.

Do I need new NET software?  I noticed in the /linux/inet directorty that there
is a config system where you can change the ORQ address, and it is currently
set to 7 Will changing this number to 5 fix the problem?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please respond via private e-mail

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Matassa)
Subject: Re: Booting probs with SLS 0.99
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Kevin Matassa)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 23:31:22 GMT

In a previous article, [email-masked] (Kevin Matassa) says:

>
>I have:
>       - 33 MHZ TI 486 DLC with math copro
>       - 4 MG RAM
>       - UN-1072 I/O Card (Serial,parallel,game,hard disk, floppy)
>       - Cirrus 1MG SVGA Card
>       - 2 floppies
>       - CrossLink Fax/Modem
>       - 170 Quantum Disk
>
>My problem:
>
>       On booting from the boot floppy I select the ramdisk option
>from LILO.  It goes on identifying my hardware and then states that
>INIT: Version 2.0 is booting.  The boot at this point hangs.
>
>There is local echo on the console, and my function keys for virtual
>terminals seem to work, but I do not get the SLS login prompt
>
>Help ?
>Thanks in advance
>-- 
>// Kevin Matassa
>// [email-masked]
>// Ottawa, Ont, Canada

Some further clues:

On slow (non-turbo) boot attempts I sometimes get errors to the effect:

"837: failed to reset".  Yes my system has an 80837 math copro.  Linux
recognizes this hardware on boot-up, even when the chip is disabled in
my BIOS.

It has been mentioned thay my a1 boot floppy may need to be re-written.
I have however used this floppy to boot other PC's.  Is it possible that
I have a buggy boot floppy ?

Thanks again for your help!

-- 
// Kevin Matassa
// [email-masked]
// Ottawa, Ont, Canada

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From: [email-masked] (Robb Shecter)
Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
Date: 1 Oct 1993 10:55:10 -0400

I would love to write a word processor for Linux...anyone know a doc about
how mouse movements are intrepreted?

-- 
Robb Shecter
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Timothy Mark Lawless)
Subject: lpr: connect: ....
Date: 2 Oct 1993 01:24:13 GMT

I am verrry new to linux.. today i tried to print using lpr and after
creating the spool directory required i was given an error message on 
my attempt to use lpr of somethin like lpr: connect: file or directory not
found. Cna anyone help...
THnax.

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Subject: Re: Looking for info about MacLinux
From: [email-masked]
Date: 2 Oct 93 11:26:43 EST

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] writes:
> Johnathon Suker ([email-masked]) wrote:
> : Netters,
> 
> :     Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I am looking for 
> : any information about a Macintosh port of Linux.  I am interested even if it
> : is in alpha testing or not for general release.
> 
>    Ask Dan Quinlan.  I believe he has even ported Linux to his
> refrigerator.

I just checked with Dan - he said that the port to his Microwave is fairly
stable and in alpha, but has delayed the refrigerator port due to major
rewrites required in X-Cheese and also handling exceptions for the
vegetable crisper which would require a kernal rebuild.

:-)

regards, David

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Subject: SLS and SLACKWARE!??
From: [email-masked]
Date: 2 Oct 93 11:28:27 EST

Just a quicky:

What's the difference between the SLS and SLACKWARE distributions? Different
kernal? ... It almost seems to me like two projects working concurrently.

sorry if this is an FAQ ...

BTW: where can I get a copy of the linux FAX?

regards, David

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From: [email-masked] (Giuseppe Martoni)
Subject: Linux configuration for 3c503 card 
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 19:03:02 GMT

We have a PC 486-50 with a 3c503 ethernet Card running Linux.
When we try to connect to the network the operating system reports
this error: 
                         Network is unreachable.

We have a DROP Cable at the moment.
Of course, this is a configuration problem.
Is there someone who can help us ?

Dr. Giuseppe Martoni
Computer Science Course
University of Bologna - Cesena
e-mail: [email-masked]

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