Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #282
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 10:13:05 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #282, Volume #6            Sun, 3 Oct 93 10:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  IN2000 support (Thomas J Bilan)
  Re: Oakdriver for X ([email-masked])
  Re: Forward: QIC-80 (Christoph Badura)
  Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) (Laszlo Herczeg)
  Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout) (Laszlo Herczeg)
  OLVWM:miss library
  Deals on Motif? (Vin Locke)
  Re: Oakdriver for X (marauder)
  Troubles with Adaptec 1542B ! (Asif Ebrahim)
  LILO Default to MSDOS? ([email-masked])
  Linux Where, Space? (Hasan Diwan)
  LILO IDE, DOS & EXT2FS (Kenneth P. Persing)
  ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem (Seth Parker)
  SLS install problems-need help (David J. Dorkin)
  How to run /etc/lilo/install after kernel rebuild... (Jeff Stern)
  Re: Smail in 99pl9 (Oliver Duesel)
  Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards (Oliver Duesel)
  term in AIX, HELP..... (Harvard Harding)
  Re: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem (Drew Eckhardt)
  INIT hangs on boot (Kevin Matassa)
  Re: Linux Where, Space? (Kerry Person)

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From: [email-masked] (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: IN2000 support
Date: 2 Oct 1993 17:41:49 GMT

Has anyone got the IN2000 SCSI card to work with a CD-ROM drive????

Thanks,
Tom Bilan

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 18:50:50 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Rick D. Hochhalter) writes:
> 
> Same with me.  I have an SVGA card that uses the OAK 077 SVGA chip and
> I don't want to have to buy another video card just to be able to use
> X on my system.

Right now (XFree86 1.3) you can run X mono.  Wait till XFree86 2.0
(hopefully end of October) and there should be support for the OAK
067/077 according to the announcement. 

        -Kurt Hockenbury

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.bugs
From: [email-masked] (Christoph Badura)
Subject: Re: Forward: QIC-80
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:59:13 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:

>There are two other (minor) fixes that need to be implemented to complete
>the "lowest overhead" scenario.  The first is to allocate a minimum of a
>32k buffer in kernel space (again, like the Mitsumi driver, an expensive
>proposition) to be used by the tape driver, and another 32k buffer as a
>user-to-kernel transfer area (if you are willing to block the user process
>in the driver, the second area is unnecessary assuming some even factor of
>32k as the transfer block size).

If you're worried about permanently allocating 32k of memory instead
of only when the driver is open, then, by all means, just allocate it
when the driver is opened and free it upon close.
-- 
    Christoph Badura  ---  [email-masked]  ---  +49 721 606137

Personally, I don't care whether someone is cool enough to quote Doug
Gwyn--I only care whether Doug Gwyn is cool enough to quote. -- Larry Wall

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From: [email-masked] (Laszlo Herczeg)
Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 17:56:13 GMT

 LOUT is available on all usenet archives which carry comp.sources.misc .
The latest version can be found in volume 38.
 
 If you don't know any usenet archives, here is a few:
usc.edu    /archive/usenet/sources/comp.sources.misc/Volume38
 
ftp.uu.net /usenet
 
gatekeeper.dec.com

 

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From: [email-masked] (Laszlo Herczeg)
Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux (lout)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 18:03:32 GMT

Peter Mutsaers ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >> On 28 Sep 93 12:47:08 GMT, [email-masked] (R. Stewart Ellis)
: >> said:

:   RSE> Since joe, jove and emacs are all insert-mode editors that understand
:   RSE> ^F,^B,^N,^P,^A and ^E, I would arrange them like:

:   RSE> vi--elvis-----vile-----------------------joe-------------jove---------emacs

: Judging by insert-mode and some keybindings (which can be completely
: changed anyways in GNU emacs) I think this view is rather simplistic.
: A better arrangement is:

:                           -------GNU-emacs-------

:                           joe-------------jove---
:    vi--elvis-----vile-----

: GNU-emacs is of an other order than the rest, with its M-x compile,
: the Grand Unified Debugger, tags, ange-ftp, complete configurability
: and reprogrammability, so that you can emulate any of the editors that
: are more down to earth.

: Some may think it is nonsense to read mail and news from within an
: 'editor', but the same set of keybindings everywhere, and complete
: integration with the editor is a great blessing.
: -- 
: _______________________________________________________________
: Peter Mutsaers, Bunnik (Ut), the Netherlands

While I do not wish to start an Emacs flame war, I'd just like to say that
Joe is highly configurable, and is currently being extended with a macro
language which will give it even more functionality.
 The author of Joe has posted his second version of the extension script
interpreter to alt.sources a couple weeks ago, which will allow joe to
function in a role similar to EMACS.

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From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: OLVWM:miss library
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 19:35:23 GMT

After installing the current slackware release and getting twm to work OK,
I have tried to use the installed Open Look olvwm.

I get a faulting message saying that library "libolg.so.3" cannot be found.

I can't find it on the net anywhere and wonder if I need to link it to 
some other library. The FAQs I have read don't seem to directly mention
this problem.
Thanks very much!!!
__jeffrey weiss

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From: [email-masked] (Vin Locke)
Subject: Deals on Motif?
Date: 2 Oct 1993 13:07:26 -0700

I've been checking out deals on Motif for Linux.
Metro wants ~$200 US, and I found another place in Unix Review
(can't recall the name offhand) that wants ~$175 US.

Can anyone come up with a better deal?  I'm looking for the 
development libraries.

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (marauder)
Subject: Re: Oakdriver for X
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 22:35:44 GMT

Wobutt ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Yes,I'd also like to find a driver for this card,so if anyone has any
: ideas..please email me or reply here...

: Thanks.

: Robert Franklin
: [email-masked]

I'd also like to be added to that list, however I have been informed that the
soon to be released (late october), version of Xfree V2.. is planned to
support Oak VGA..

anyone succesfully configured the Dos Emulator to work with the Oak card?

thanks

td

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From: [email-masked] (Asif Ebrahim)
Subject: Troubles with Adaptec 1542B !
Date: 2 Oct 1993 17:55:16 -0500
Reply-To: [email-masked]

I've just installed the latest version of Linux using the conventional method
of floppy disks. I have one IDE hard drive and one SCSI hard drive which is
supported by an Adaptec 1542B. What I did was to create one partition on the
IDE drive for Linux to boot up on. I then created another partition on the
SCSI drive to put the home directory onto. When I finished installing Linux
I booted up from the floppy disk which was created during the installation.
When Linux came to the point of initallizing the Adaptec 1542B the system 
just hung up and there was a message saying 

                Internal Error scsi.c 966

I've checked that the following information was correct on both my card and
the setup on my machine. [ IO:330  IRQ:10  DMA:5 ]

I have no idea what could be the problem.

Please could you mail me back at [email-masked] and not via the
newsgroups as I haven't got NEWS setup yet.

Thanks.

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Subject: LILO Default to MSDOS?
From: [email-masked]
Date: 2 Oct 93 09:44:01 -0800

Just out of curiosity, it there a way to make lilo version 12 default boot from
MSDOS?  What would I need to change in /etc/lilo/config?  I have two boots,
MSDOS and LINUX, the boot record resides in /dev/hda2 (my linux partition) and
it is active.  If I make /dev/hda1 active MSDOS boots.

Please respond privately.

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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From: [email-masked] (Hasan Diwan)
Subject: Linux Where, Space?
Date: 3 Oct 1993 01:55:50 GMT

Where may I obtain a copy of Linux and how much space will I need to run it?
Are all UNIX applications capable of running under Linux?                       
                                          
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From: [email-masked] (Kenneth P. Persing)
Subject: LILO IDE, DOS & EXT2FS
Date: 3 Oct 1993 03:33:45 GMT

Hi,
  I am having aproblem booting linux or DOS, I have 2 163meg
IDE hard drives. The first has 133megs of DOS (/dev/hda1) the extra
30 belongs to the linux swap file (/dev/hda3). The second drive is
totaly devoted to linux (/dev/hdb2). If I boot w/o any floppies,
I'll default to DOS, I need to boot with a floppy in order to boot
linux. How do I install LILO so I can totaly boot from the hard drive,
then be given the choice to load either DOS or Linux???

Any answers would be greatly appreciated!!

[email-masked]
[email-masked]

                                             Kenneth P. Persing

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From: [email-masked] (Seth Parker)
Subject: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:15:29 GMT

I just recently got the linux system on CD Rom and want to install it from
my Texel cd rom hooked up to my Proaudio Spectrum 16 card. It has a scsi
port on it. When Linux's boots from the install disk it scsi detected but
doesn't see the rom. What am I doing wrong? Is the card supported? I
looked in the install papers but couldn't find anything.

Thanks

Seth Parker

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From: [email-masked] (David J. Dorkin)
Subject: SLS install problems-need help
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:30:40 GMT

I am trying to install SLS Linux on my new HD, It initializes the
Linux/Minix partition fine, but doesn't properly set up my swap partition
via the installation script.  Also, while installing 70Megs worth, I
received errors all of the time including:
stdin:out of memory
virtual memory exceeded in 'new'
tar: could not allocate memory for blacking factor 20
sed: couldn't allocate momory

I am running on a 386/40MHz with a 330MB IDE HD.  I have 4 Megs of Ram,
shouldn't that be enough.  I went through the whole installation and very
little was there.  Also, when I make the boot disk at the end of the
installation, it goes fine until it tries to mount, VFS.  Then the machine
locks.  I should be getting 4 Megs more soon, should that help?  Please
help soon!  I am dying to get X running!  Thanks in advance.  Please mail
responses to:  [email-masked]

Thanks again.

-Dave
-- 
David Dorkin, N2RQU
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Jeff Stern)
Subject: How to run /etc/lilo/install after kernel rebuild...
Date: 3 Oct 93 03:56:18 GMT

How do I rerun lilo so the kernel I just compiled will boot right?
I assume lilo is the problem: i compiled a new kernel and now it
goes into infinite reboots.

When I run the 'make zlilo' to compile a new kernel, it makes one, but
has trouble running lilo, saying ./lilo: No such file or directory.
Even when I run lilo install from the linux compile directory, I still
have the problem (see below) Why? Then, when I go to the /etc/lilo directory
itself, the dang thing now says it wants command line arguments. None
of this is documented: it is not in /etc/lilo/README, it is not in
LILO-FAQ. I simply need to know how to get the new kernel to
automatically boot.  On other systems, it's easy. Make new kernel,
copy over, reboot.  With lilo i have to spend half a day only to
figure out that when it is going into infinite rebooting cycles this
is a *feature*, not a flaw. Please help, anyone.

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Script started on Sat Oct  2 08:26:23 1993
eclectic:/usr/src/linux# ls
#README#     boot         ibcs         lib          tools
COPYING      config.in    include      lilodocs     typescript
Configure    config.old   init         makever.sh   zBoot
Makefile     fs           ipc          mm           zImage
README       gz123        kernel       net          zSystem.map
eclectic:/usr/src/linux# /etc/lilo/install
./lilo: No such file or directory
eclectic:/usr/src/linux# cd /etc/lilo/
eclectic:/etc/lilo# install
Usage: install [options] [-s] [--strip] source dest
       install [options] [-s] [--strip] source... directory
       install [options] {-d,--directory} directory...
Options:
       [-c] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner]
       [--group=group] [--mode=mode] [--owner=owner]
eclectic:/etc/lilo# cd /usr/src/linux
eclectic:/usr/src/linux# exit
exit

Script done on Sat Oct  2 08:26:54 1993
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Jeff Stern <[email-masked]>
"Timex Sinclair UNIX.. coming soon to a dealer near you."
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From: [email-masked] (Oliver Duesel)
Subject: Re: Smail in 99pl9
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 14:50:11 CEST

Hi Volker,

[email-masked] (Volker Grimm) writes:

> I am running Linux .99pl9 and installed all of the SLS-Distrib.
> What do I have to do to make the other users known to the system ?

Take a closer look at the files under /usr/local/lib/smail ... especially
the 'paths' file; be sure to include both, your hostname w/o domain AND your
hostname with your domain ... see the example for details.

You also should edit the config-files for elm (elm.rc etc.) to suit your
setup.

The above should do it for _local_ mail ...

By(t)e,                                                         Oli.

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From: [email-masked] (Oliver Duesel)
Subject: Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 14:59:28 CEST
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,

[email-masked] (Wolfgang Utz) writes:

> Now my question: Will those chaep cards really work with Linux? Has anyone an
> experiences?

I'm currently using two 'LANcard' Ethernet Adapter (NE200 compatibles) ...
which cost me abt. 80.- DM/each - for my needs, they are fast enough; I dont'
really need those fancy WD80x3-cards :-)

Networking with my other computer is working like a charm ... setup was easy,
connections are stable and pretty fast.

Seems like it's enough, to choose 100%-compatibles ... or ones, that are tested
within TCP/IP-networks.

Using Donald Beckers eth-driver, it is working now since 0.99pl4 (now pl12) w/o
any problems (thank you for this btw!)

Just ask your dealer, if you could try them and bring'em back in case they 
won't work - should be no problem ?

By(t)e,                                                         Oli.

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From: [email-masked] (Harvard Harding)
Subject: term in AIX, HELP.....
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 06:05:59 GMT

Has anyone out there got term 1.07 to work under AIX 3.2 or 3.1 for that 
matter.  I can get it to compile, and when I run it on the AIX system and my 
linux system it seem to connect, but as soon as I try to run trsh I get an
error something like "can't create (open) pty."  Well this isn't the exact
message but you get the idea.  So if anybody out there has been able to get
term working correctly on an AIX system please post of mail me what changes 
you made to the code.  Thanks alot.

Harv

[email-masked]
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From: [email-masked] (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum CD Rom problem
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 06:54:03 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Seth Parker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I just recently got the linux system on CD Rom and want to install it from
>my Texel cd rom hooked up to my Proaudio Spectrum 16 card. It has a scsi
>port on it. When Linux's boots from the install disk it scsi detected but

No it doesn't - while there is an audio driver for the PAS16 in the
distribution kernel, there is no SCSI driver and the SCSI side of the
card is *not* detected.

>doesn't see the rom. What am I doing wrong? Is the card supported? I
>looked in the install papers but couldn't find anything.

From the SCSI HOWTO : 

Section 3 : Hosts

Subsection A : Supported and Unsupported Hardware
Drivers that are being developed, but aren't publically available 
PAS-16 (based on my NCR5380 driver, works if booted with a CD in 
        the drive but fails if none is there or there is a disk change)

Ie : the PAS-16 SCSI port is not supported yet.

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Matassa)
Subject: INIT hangs on boot
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Kevin Matassa)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 12:13:25 GMT

Still trying to debug my problem, I have another question.  Does anyone
know what happens in Linux when INIT is started.

Any info is appreciated.
-- 
// Kevin Matassa
// [email-masked]
// Ottawa, Ont, Canada

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From: [email-masked] (Kerry Person)
Subject: Re: Linux Where, Space?
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 13:51:43 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Hasan Diwan) writes:
>Where may I obtain a copy of Linux and how much space will I need to run it?
>Are all UNIX applications capable of running under Linux?                       
1.  This newsgroup is going away.  Use one of
comp.os.linux.help/announce/admin/misc/development.

2.  In c.o.l.help (at least), read the regularly posted article entitled
(something like)  READ THIS BEFORE POSTING.  It will either tell you what
you want to know, or tell you how to find out.

--
Kerry J. Person                                      Electrical Engineering
[email-masked]                      North Dakota State University
[email-masked]                                    Fargo, ND USA

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