Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #291
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 18:13:09 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #291, Volume #6            Wed, 6 Oct 93 18:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: FidoNet software (David Kraus)
  Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together? ([email-masked])
  Re: norton-like shell for unix? (John Fauerbach)
  HELP WITH DIAL INS (Matthew S. Bailey)
  HELP WITH DIAL INS (Matthew S. Bailey)
  Re: PPP for Linux (Matthew J. Ryan)
  Re: Xwindows on CrystalScan and ATI GUP (Kees Metzger)
  Can't get started with dosemu (Dennis Director)
  tamu src dist. (Steve Nunez)
  Re: FidoNet software (Alex Brodsky)
  Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Chris G. Demetriou)
  LILO defaults to MSDOS <SOLVED!> ([email-masked])
  Michelle, Where are you? ([email-masked])
  Diamond Speedstar 24X (Steven C. Wolfe)
  Re: norton-like shell for unix? (Matthias Rabe)
  What doIneed ToGoTo .99p13 (Sohail M. Parekh)
  [Q] Sound from Orchid Faherenhit VA/VLB video (Sohail M. Parekh)

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From: [email-masked] (David Kraus)
Subject: Re: FidoNet software
Date: 6 Oct 93 10:49:29

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Edward Walker) writes:

> [email-masked] (ben elliston) writes:

>> Has anyone seen FidoNet-compatible mail software anywhere for Linux?
>> 
>> Specifically, I'm looking for a mail processor and a message reader/editor.
>  
> If you have ALOT of programming experience, you might try to pick up the 
> C source code to BinkleyTerm for DOS and OS/2..  I've heard of a port to 
> Linux of it, but it was an old, outdated version..  Course, if you do 
> that, you'll have to find some code to compile a version6/7 nodelist as 
> well..
>  
> happy hunting..

The Binkley port is based off of the AtariST port, which was based off of
BT pre-2.50.  Granted, it isn't based off of the most current version, but
it adds a few things that the currently released version doesn't have (EMSI
sessions is a prime example).

Thus far, it works for me.  Now if I could get rfmail to give decent SeenBy
lines, I'd be all set to take off the last reason I boot DOS by default...
--
Dave Kraus                                         Internet: [email-masked]
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group             FidoNet : 1:115/439.8
Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ.
"Sun to burn out in 1.5 billion years!  Clinton has a plan." - Outland

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Windows NT, Linux and DOS all together?
Date: 6 Oct 93 17:51:11 +0100

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Mark A. Davis) writes:
> [email-masked] writes:
> 
>>Anyone know if you can or cannot have MSDOS/DRDOS, Windows NT and Linux all
>>on one PC?
> 
> Why?  Wait a few and you will be able to run Unix with Linux, MS-"DOS" under
> dosemu (or a separate partition), & MS-"Windows" under WINE (or under the 
> MS-"DOS" partition).  NT has almost 0 software which isn't just MS-"Windows"
> software....

Why? I'm a developer. I want something that I can play with that I can't get 
at work. I do Unix at work, and one day NT (when my employers get their finger
out).

My parents have a design program I wrote under DOS, but we now want in under
windows (and may sell it), and then I'm interested in NT. I had several
responses to this post (thanX everyone, I replied to most by email, but
several addresses bounced), many of which had MSDOS/Linux/NT
running, one guy even had OS/2 as well!
-- 
[email-masked]  "If I were to read, much less to answer all the attacks made
on me, this shop might as well be closed for any other business. I do the very
best I know how - the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the
end. If the end brings me out alright, what is said against me won't amount to
anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right
would make no difference." [Abraham Lincoln, reported by Francis B Carpenter].

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From: [email-masked] (John Fauerbach)
Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
Date: 6 Oct 1993 17:34:22 GMT

: Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
: "Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
:  
: I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files 
: more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
:  

Me too.  I looking for something that displays two different directories at
the same time a that I could copy files between eachdirectory.

Thanks,
John Fauerbac

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:45:06 EDT
From: Matthew S. Bailey <[email-masked]>
Subject: HELP WITH DIAL INS

I am new to the Linux community and I need to be able to dial in
to my machine. I need help! via E-MAIL PLEASE

Please do not email me at this address that I am sending from
BECAUSE I can not respond to you.

please use   [email-masked]

thanks for time
Matthew S. Bailey
[email-masked]

One good thing about soap is that you never have to wash it.

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:51:14 EDT
From: Matthew S. Bailey <[email-masked]>
Subject: HELP WITH DIAL INS

I am new to the Linux world I need to use dial ins. I get  a connect but no res
ponce from my Linux box. Any clues? Please E-MAIL at
[email-masked]    Thanks Matt Bailey

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From: [email-masked] (Matthew J. Ryan)
Subject: Re: PPP for Linux
Date: 6 Oct 1993 17:48:10 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Charles B. Martin <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Thank you for the few that have given me some information regarding PPP
>for Linux.  The best I have been able to come up with is this:
>
>
>About PPP:
>There is a company which sells PPP for various Unix platforms called
>morningstart.  Try contacting their marketing at:
>        [email-masked]
>We bought PPP for Solaris from them.
>
>-Mike
>
  I have used the Morngingstar PPP, and it is a top-notch product.
However, as I remember, its price tag is no drop in the bucket.
Is anyone out there working on porting the various freeware PPP's
to Linux?

-- 
"Still looking for a funky quote..."
Matthew Ryan
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Kees Metzger)
Subject: Re: Xwindows on CrystalScan and ATI GUP
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 16:58:44 GMT

[email-masked] (Bill McKinnon '96) writes:

>anyone out there have the correct Xconfig settings for the 
>Gateway CrystalScan and the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro? Any help

This file describes the X configuration for the GW2k 66V with ATI GUP.

The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card can emulate the ATI Wonder Plus. It is this
driver for the Wonder Plus that we use. The Xfree server reports upon startup
which driving frequencies can be used. Fortunately these frequencies are not all
the frequencies the card supports. Additional frequencies are 

            80, 110, 126 and 135 MHz.

The ATI board has 1MB memory (by the way, the Xfree driver does not support 
more). If a ratio is 4:3 is obeyed (the traditional TV H:V ratio) the 
resolution that comes closest to 1MB is 1184x880 (if the number of horizontal 
pixels is a multiple of 8, which is a requirement of the driver). More popular 
is the resolution 1152x900 because it allows for more horizontal text lines. 
Both entries can be found in the Xconfig example below.

The 15" monitor of Gateway is the 1572FS. This monitor has a maximum
horizontal frequency of 64 kHz (see page 10 of the monitor manual).

Experimentally I found that (for the 1572FS) :

. The horizontal sync pulse should come as least .32 usec after the last
  displayable pixel. Smaller values tend to truncate the line.

. The monitor needs 3 usec between horizontal lines (to sweep from right to
  left).

. The monitor needs .37 msec between two frames (to sweep from bottom to top)

The higher the driving frequency, the higher the screen refresh rate. For the
driving frequencies 110 MHz and higher the horizontal frequencies are above
64 kHz (outside the 1572 FS spec). So we use 80 MHz for the 1572FS. In terms of
the 'video.tutorial' this translates into:

80 MHz  ->   1 clock pulse = 0.0125 usec
D1 > .32 usec = 25.6 pulses      -> D1   =  32 pulses
D2+S > 3 usec = 240  pulses      -> D2+S = 240 pulses
One line is at least 1152+32+240 pixels = 17.8 usec. Therefore a delay of 
20 lines between two frames is the absolute minimum.

This results in:

N=1184 D1=32 S=240 D2=0 V=880 Vsync=2 Vdelay=20 or
N=1152 D1=32 S=240 D2=0 V=900 Vsync=2 Vdelay=20

Experimentally the best results are obtained for :

"1184x880"   80    1184 1224 1464 1464    880  880  882  902
"1152x900"   80    1152 1184 1424 1424    900  900  902  922

Note that the 1572FS monitor is the bottleneck and that higher refresh rates
are reachable with faster monitors (horizontal frequencies above 64 kHz).

Kees Metzger
Corporate Automation
Philips International

[email-masked]

The /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig file reads:
======================================================================
# $XConsortium: Xconfig,v 1.2 91/08/26 14:34:55 gildea Exp $
# $Header: /home/x_cvs/mit/server/ddx/x386/Xconfig,v 1.11 1992/08/29 07:17:37 dawes Exp $
#
# Copyright 1990,91 by Thomas Roell, Dinkelscherben, Germany.
#
# Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its
# documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that
# the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that
# copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting
# documentation, and that the name of Thomas Roell not be used in
# advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without
# specific, written prior permission.  Thomas Roell makes no representations
# about the suitability of this software for any purpose.  It is provided
# "as is" without express or implied warranty.
#
# THOMAS ROELL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE,
# INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO
# EVENT SHALL THOMAS ROELL BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR
# CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE,
# DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER
# TORTUOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR
# PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
#
# Author:  Thomas Roell, [email-masked]

#
# some nice paths, to avoid conflicts with other X-servers
#
RGBPath         "/usr/X386/lib/X11/rgb"

# Use this if the Type1 font code is in the server
FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/BitstreamType1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"

Keyboard
  AutoRepeat 500 50
#  Xleds      1 2 3
  ServerNumLock
#  DontZap

LeftAlt         Meta
RightAlt        Compose
ScrollLock      ModeLock
#RightCtl       ModeShift

Microsoft       "/dev/mouse"
#MouseSystems   "/dev/mouse"
#MMSeries       "/dev/mouse"
#Logitech       "/dev/mouse"
#MouseMan       "/dev/mouse"
#Busmouse       "/dev/mouse"
BaudRate        1200
SampleRate      150
  Emulate3Buttons

#
# The graphics drivers
#
vga256
  Virtual       1152 900
  ViewPort      0 0
  Modes         "1152x900"
#Staticgray
#Grayscale
#Staticcolor
#Pseudocolor
#Truecolor
#Directcolor
#Chipset        "et4000"
#Chipset        "et3000"
#Chipset        "gvga"
Chipset         "ati"
#Chipset        "pvga1"
#Displaysize    1024 768
#Screenno       0
#Vendor "legend"
Videoram        1024

Clocks 51 36 126 25 80 65 45 40 135 32 110 80 45 40 75 65

ModeDB
#            clock  horizontal timing      vertical timing
"1184x880"   80    1184 1224 1464 1464    880  880  882  902
"1152x900"   80    1152 1184 1424 1424    900  900  902  922

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From: [email-masked] (Dennis Director)
Subject: Can't get started with dosemu
Date: 6 Oct 1993 18:54:29 GMT

Every time I try to run the dos emulator, no matter what I do in the
command line options, I get:

EMULATE
ERROR: can't stat diskimage
DOS killed!
sig 1 received - shutting down

And, the floppy drive was never accessed!
Strings from libemu indicate that emu.c is
Revision 1.12.

How do you run this thing?  What is the hdimage file? What am I supposed
to do with it?

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From: [email-masked] (Steve Nunez)
Subject: tamu src dist.
Date: 6 Oct 1993 19:01:13 GMT

Does anyone have the address of any of the tamu maintainers? If so 
would you send me their address? Are any of the maintainers listening
to these groups? If so then please contact me, there is a problem
with your source dist. of smail that I have been unable to solve and
I would greatly appreciate any help you could give.

        - Steve Nunez
        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Alex Brodsky)
Subject: Re: FidoNet software
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 17:28:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Edward Walker <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (ben elliston) writes:
>
>> Has anyone seen FidoNet-compatible mail software anywhere for Linux?
>> 
>> Specifically, I'm looking for a mail processor and a message reader/editor.
> 
>If you have ALOT of programming experience, you might try to pick up the 
>C source code to BinkleyTerm for DOS and OS/2..  I've heard of a port to 
>Linux of it, but it was an old, outdated version..  Course, if you do 
>that, you'll have to find some code to compile a version6/7 nodelist as 
>well..
> 

Given another month I should have a V7 nodelist compiler finished,  
Compiable with any ansi C compiler with POSIX support libraries.  
I will realses the source code when I feel it is relatively bug free.

ttyl
Alex

-- 
===============================================================================
vi is turing complete, what more do you need?

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From: [email-masked] (Chris G. Demetriou)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd
Date: 6 Oct 93 13:13:15

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Chris Metcalf) writes:
>Please note that "HZ" on Linux is 100, not 60, unlike most other common
>Unix systems (SunOS, Ultrix, *BSD, etc.).  Since 5217.4 / 8695.7 is
>*exactly* 60/100, it's clear that the time taken under Linux was exactly
>the same as the time taken under 386BSD.  Note also that the "Dhampstone"
>results were identical.

hello?

on *BSD, HZ is 100, and has been for a long time.  (This includes {386,
Free,Net}BSD).

on SunOS, it's 60, for "compatibility reasons" or something like that.

on Ultrix, it appears to be something like either 100 on some
machines, or 256 on others (they've removed the #define, and
replaced it with an entry in a cpu configuration table, or so it
would seem).

but for {386,Free,Net}BSD, you're definitely wrong, hz is 100,
and always has been.

chris

--
chris g. demetriou                                   [email-masked]

                    smarter than your average clam.

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Subject: LILO defaults to MSDOS <SOLVED!>
From: [email-masked]
Date: 6 Oct 93 11:46:15 -0800

I have solved all my problems with having lilo default boot MSDOS.  I did try
changing the order of boot information, but then lilo errored out when
installing to make the map file.  What I forgot to do was edit config and
create the install  line to tell it to use boot.b.  When I did that, and re
./install with the new config file, everything worked fine.

I wanted to thank all that responded to my original message.  I tried to
respond privately to all that responded, however I had a mail system crash last
night and many outgoing messages were lost.

Again, thanks for all your help

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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Subject: Michelle, Where are you?
From: [email-masked]
Date: 6 Oct 93 11:48:20 -0800

This message is for Michelle,

I made instructions for you per what we talked about, but my mail system
crashed, so I lost your original message, my reply and your email address.

Please respond privately with your system information and I will write back.

-- 
Eric Levinson
[email-masked]      |  Home computer (UUCP)
[email-masked]         |  Vax
I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696

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From: [email-masked] (Steven C. Wolfe)
Subject: Diamond Speedstar 24X
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 20:50:46 GMT

Hi:

Does anyone know if the DIAMOND SPEEDSTAR 24X will work with Linux, and if
so, where a driver might be available?

I looked on the DIAMOND BBS, and did not notice anything.

thanks
SCWolfe

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From: [email-masked] (Matthias Rabe)
Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 20:44:27 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Hajo Simons <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
>"Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
> 
>I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files 
>more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
> 
>If you know such one, could you post it to
>[email-masked]
>or
>100022,[email-masked]
> 
>or, could you point to a ftp-site and path that contains it?
>
>( please only email, because I've not subscribed to this newsgroup )

Please reply to this group, too.

Matthias
-- 
[email-masked]                          Matthias Rabe
Universit"at Bielefeld                            Privat: Avenwedder Str. 494
U5-133                                                    D 33335 G"utersloh
Tel.: (0521) 106-3871                                     Tel.: (05209) 6673

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From: sohail@trixie (Sohail M. Parekh)
Subject: What doIneed ToGoTo .99p13
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 21:51:32 GMT

I am running the following today and I would like to upgrade to .99p13. I
know this information is available in HOWTO's but I have read so many news
about people with problems (especially with SCSI - UltraStor 34F) that I would
rather ask then assume. I have the following components today!

a)      .99p10 kernel
b)      net-2 networking
c)      2.4.3 GCC
d)      4.4 libc
e)      SCSI (UltaStor 34F)

I like to upgrade all the pieces if I have to but I would like to upgrade
to most recent but MOST ROBURST versions. I use my system alot for work work
and school work. I suggestion would be much appreciated. Also if someone could
also suggest where to get the new pieces.

Sincerely,

Sohail

NOTE: I have seen messages from people with problems on:

        .99p13 kernel - Is is ready yet ?
        GCC and SCSI code giving errors!
        Net-2 release with problems
        4.4.XX libc - which do I need ?
        Inter-dependencies and problems!

--
     Sohail M. Parekh                Grumman  Data Systems
     [email-masked]      12000 Aerospace Ave. 
     (713) 483-5912                  Houston, TX 77034

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From: sohail@trixie (Sohail M. Parekh)
Subject: [Q] Sound from Orchid Faherenhit VA/VLB video
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 21:53:34 GMT

I have a Orchid Faherenhit VA/VLB video card (S3 based). It has voice anno-
tation features. It has microphone and speaker jacks at the back. Under DOS/
MS-Windows I can use it to record and play voice messages. I am not sure -

a) How it works ?
b) How does the features compare to a regular sound card (SoundBlaster!) ?
c) Can I use the sound features of this board under LINUX (like I can
   under MS-Windows) ?
d) If I buy a CD Drive can I use this to play sound CD's ?

Sincerely,

Sohail

--
     Sohail M. Parekh                Grumman  Data Systems
     [email-masked]      12000 Aerospace Ave. 
     (713) 483-5912                  Houston, TX 77034

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