Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #293
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 93 11:13:09 EDT

Linux-Activists Digest #293, Volume #6            Thu, 7 Oct 93 11:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Autostart XDM - possible? (Jesper Honig Spring)
  mitsumi settings - help! (Shaun Jackson)
  GNU C 2.4.5 HELP! ("Tony Phillips")
  Re: norton-like shell for unix? (Tom van Nes)
  man page for tar SLS1.01 (Dirk Sturzebecher)
  Re: Autostart XDM - possible? (Erlend Osborg Larsen)
  SLS install problem (Bos R)
  Re: SLS 1.03: everything hangs except VT switching (Linus Torvalds)
  Re: /proc, ptys and su on /dev/ttyS0 (Linus Torvalds)
  Re: Autostart XDM - possible? (Chris Vetter)
  Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2 (Niranjan THATTE)
  >Re: >Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem bootin (Gareth Bult)
  Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Chris Metcalf)
  Novell under Linux (Mattias Olsson)
  Re: Help with Xconfig (David E. Wexelblat)
  Why doesnt lpr work ? (Mattias Olsson)
  paste dose not work in x-window, help (Min Hu)
  BTX Software for Linux Anyone? (Ralf Vogt)

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From: [email-masked] (Jesper Honig Spring)
Subject: Autostart XDM - possible?
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 09:45:18 GMT

Hello

Is it possible to autostart XDM when booting. That is
before I log in as root.

Thanks,

-- 
===============================================================================
     jesper honig spring                    department of computer science 
         [email-masked]                    university of copenhagen, denmark  
===============================================================================

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From: [email-masked] (Shaun Jackson)
Subject: mitsumi settings - help!
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 10:52:25 GMT

Help! - I have been trying to get my Mitsumi CD-ROM to work with Linux for a
long time. I started with the early SLS release but could not get any help 
from the supplier. I now have acces to the net (obviously) and had just 
downloaded the Slackware release 1.03 (kernel .99pl13). This says it has the
support built in for the Mitsumi CDROM but when I boot the message:

mitsumi init failed ... appears.

I have tried some different IRQ settings to no avail. 

Could somebody please send me the info I need to get this working?

Apart from the above Niggle I find Linux very interesting and useful.

Regards and thanks in advance - Shaun.,

                                        sjackson*mdis.co.uk

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From: "Tony Phillips" <[email-masked]>
Subject: GNU C 2.4.5 HELP!
Date: 7 Oct 1993 07:23:13 -0400
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,

I've recently installed SLS on my system, it's great! Thanks to all the people
who've worked on it, and continue to do so!

As well as installing the basic version I've been collecting together the
latest versions of some utilities, the Kernel etc. from a number of ftp sites.

My problem is that disk space is severly limited on my PC!

According to the notes with the kernel I should use GCC 2.4.5 to compile my
kernel...

I've ftp'd the GCC 2.4.5 source code and transferred it on to the PC,
after uncompressing and untarring it I'm left with about 15 megs of disk space;
this isn't enough to do the job!!!

Aside from buying a new hard disk, which I can't afford for a couple of months
(but I'm painfully aware I need one!), is there a 'cut-down' version of GCC
2.4.5 just for linux/i386 platforms, or even better an executable that's
already been compiled? I`d need to get hold of it via a bitftp server as I
only have internet mail access.

One other question: I notice at the end of the acitivist digest which I get
that the current kernel version is up to patch level 19, I've only managed to
find up to pl12; where are the best places to find the latest versions?

Any suggestions are welcome

thanks

Tony Phillips            
Software Engineer
Oracle Case*Core 
Oracle UK

email: [email-masked]
  tel: +44 (0)932-872020 ext 2136  

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   OF MY PRESENT EMPLOYER

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From: [email-masked] (Tom van Nes)
Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 10:59:58 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Hajo Simons <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>Hi folks!
> 
>Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
>"Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
> 
>I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files 
>more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
> 
>If you know such one, could you post it to
>[email-masked]
>or
>100022,[email-masked]
> 
>or, could you point to a ftp-site and path that contains it?
> 
>thanks in advance
> 
>HaJo
>
>( please only email, because I've not subscribed to this newsgroup )

I found something that looks similar to NC and is called 'gc3'
but the program always core dumps!

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From: [email-masked] (Dirk Sturzebecher)
Subject: man page for tar SLS1.01
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 93 17:36:32 PDT

Hi all,
can someone tell me or send me the man page for tar as in SLS1.01. the page is
in what I think tex, which I do not have. Or even better is there a utility
to convert the current format to the normal man format.

Please reply via e-mail,

  Thanks, Dirk

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Grosser Kamp 28                             
3170 Gifhorn                       voice  : (05371) 14880
Germany

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From: [email-masked] (Erlend Osborg Larsen)
Subject: Re: Autostart XDM - possible?
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 11:12:53 GMT

Jesper Honig Spring ([email-masked]) wrote:

:>Hello

:>Is it possible to autostart XDM when booting. That is
:>before I log in as root.

:>Thanks,
Sure just set your initdefault to 6 not 4 ....
Think it's in the script rc.net

erlend

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**  Erlend Osborg Larsen          **
**  Fjordgata 15, 7010 Trondheim  ** 
**  Norway                        ** 
**  73528816 or 73529665          **
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From: [email-masked] (Bos R)
Subject: SLS install problem
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:24:14 GMT

I tried to install the linux filesystem by typing the
following line:

  mke2fs -c /dev/hda2 90272

this produced the following output:

  mke2fs 0.3,  93/04/22 for EXT2 FS 0.3a
  Block Log Size =0
  Fragment Log Size =0
  22656 inodes
  90272 blocks
  4513 blocks reserved for root
  First data block=1 (1)
  Block size=1024
  12 blocks groups
  8192 blocks per group
  8192 fragments per group
  1888 inodes per group
  group = 11
  mke2fs: Unable to find a block for the inode table

The last two lines appeared some time after the other 
lines.

After these lines linux returned to the prompt.

What has gone wrong?

rbos.

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From: [email-masked] (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: SLS 1.03: everything hangs except VT switching
Date: 7 Oct 1993 14:29:03 +0200

In article <[email-masked]>, Kurt Mueller <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Roger Collins) writes:
>: I have installed SLS 1.03 and it has this annoying habit. About once a
>: day, on average, it just hangs. Everything seems hung except you can
>: still switch between VTs. No other keyboard input works, though, just
>: VT switching.
>: 
>: Has anyone else seen this or know how to fix?
>: 
>: Roger Collins
>
>I expirience the same, when I compile big programms, and there is
>all memory and swap space used. Watch memory and swap with 'top'.

Try updating your kernel to 0.99.13, which fixes at least one memory
management bug which can result in a dead machine in pl12.  Pl13 seems
to be reasonably stable - I haven't had too many complaints yet,

                Linus

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From: [email-masked] (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: /proc, ptys and su on /dev/ttyS0
Date: 7 Oct 1993 14:30:42 +0200

In article <[email-masked]>, Paul Gauthier <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>b] When I'm running X and I open too many xterms the beast locks up tight.
>   Am I running out of pty's? There are dozens in /dev, but only the first
>   four of them have modification times other than the far past. Ideas?

Try getting the 0.99.13 kernel, and use that instead of 0.99.12.  That
is likely to stop the hangs. 

                Linus

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Vetter)
Subject: Re: Autostart XDM - possible?
Date: 7 Oct 1993 12:59:27 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Erlend Osborg Larsen) writes:
> Jesper Honig Spring ([email-masked]) wrote:
> :>Hello
> :>Is it possible to autostart XDM when booting. That is
> :>before I log in as root.
> :>Thanks,
> Sure just set your initdefault to 6 not 4 ....
> Think it's in the script rc.net

NAH !
rc.net is for the network only, and as far as I know, xdm is the X daemon .. ;)

*IF* you would start xdm from a script at bootup, put it to rc.local, where it
belongs ...

> erlend

-- 

Chris

Don't you know, that, if you start Linux on DOS (ROTFL), it deletes all
files with the string 'Microsoft' in it?
                                        - Fritz Ganter -

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From: thatte@soleil (Niranjan THATTE)
Subject: Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2
Date: 7 Oct 1993 13:12:06 GMT

Title: Help: SIOCADDRT error while executing /etc/route in net-2

Summary: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable - error occurs during
execution or rc.inet1 while booting. I am using kernel level
0.99p12 and net-2 TCP/IP software. Any help will be appreciated.

Hi all,
        I have been trying to install the NET-2 TCP/IP package on 
my Linux box (which is a 486/33 MHz SVGA box). The ethernet
card is an SMC Elite Plus (WD 8013 - I believe). I have 
recompiled the 0.99.p12 kernel to include my ethernet card, and
the boot time message claims that it has the correct IRQ, base
memory address and base I/O address for the card. subsequently,
within rc.inet1 I run ifconfig for eth0 with the IPADDR, the
NETMASK and the BROADCAST address set correctly. (I tried both
with and without broadcast, w/o any luck). It seems that the
ifconfig works correctly, because running ifconfig after booting
with no arguments shows two interfaces, loopback and eth0, with
the correct parameters. Subsequently, rc.inet1 tries to run
/etc/route as
/etc/route add 130.183.80.62 (which is the IP addr of my box)
and that generates the error
SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. 
any executions of route generate the same error.

I know that the ethernet is correctly connected and it works, since
I can use a DOS program to run the ethernet card from my DOS
partition, which works just fine. 

I would appreciate any help in the matter.
        Thanks a lot
                Niranjan Thatte

P.S. The news server here does not tag on the .berkeley.edu
suffix to the posting address, so please use the following 
e-mail addresses to reply to me. I will post a summary of
replies in a couple of weeks.

e-mail: [email-masked]
e-mail: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Gareth Bult)
Subject: >Re: >Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem bootin
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 10:33:54 GMT

Does Linux work on MCA?                                                     

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From: [email-masked] (Chris Metcalf)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd
Date: 7 Oct 1993 13:34:48 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Chris Demetriou wrote:
>but for {386,Free,Net}BSD, you're definitely wrong, hz is 100,

Unfortunately, dhry typically doesn't find the system-specific value of
HZ, and it will default to 60 in this case.  This would have happened under
Linux (which defines only CLK_TCK, not HZ, in its include files); perhaps 
*BSD defines HZ, or perhaps dhry had been built with -DHZ=100 under *BSD.
This is still the only way to explain the original discrepancy in timings.

A quick check of MIPS Ultrix 4.3, SunOS 4.1.3, NextStep 2.1 and Vax BSD 4.3
reveals that all of them use HZ=60 when returning a value via times(),
by the way; my guess at HZ in BSD was based on Vax BSD.
-- 
                        Chris Metcalf, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
                        [email-masked]   //   +1 (617) 253-7766

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From: mattias@shogun (Mattias Olsson)
Subject: Novell under Linux
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 13:43:51 GMT

Hi Linux lovers !

I woder if it is possible to make my Linux machine work as an Novell server
and an Unix server at the same time.
Is it possible and IF, how do i do it , what programs do I need ?
If it is not possible ,could I make my Linux machine access an Novell server ?

This is a major problem for me ,Im grateful for any answer.

Please mail me with your solution.

[email-masked]

TANKS!!!

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (David E. Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: Help with Xconfig
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:58:32 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Chris Vetter) writes:
> Rachid wants to know:
> >  Hi there,
> 
> Hoi

In the future, please try to not be so authoritative when you are so wrong...

>  
> > I've been trying to run X11 for a week with no success, my machine
> > is a 486DX50 clone with 8Mb RAM, 210Mb HD, a NCR 77C22E Video card
> >  with 1024Kb VRAM, a NEC 4FG monitor, my mouse is a microsoft compatible one
> >  linux up and runing (SLS 1.03). This is the output I have
> >  each time I run startx:
> 
> What CHIP has this NCR beast ? I dunno ...

Hmm.  Might it be ... an NCR 77C22E?  Nah.

>  
> > ------------begining of output
> > Setting TCP SO_LINGER: Protocol not available
> > XFree86 Version 1.3 / X Window System
> > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
> > Operating System: Linux
> > Configured drivers:
> >   VGA256 (256 colour SVGA):
> >       et4000, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, gvga, ati,
> >       tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga9000, clgd5420,
> >       clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga

Hmm, and look, right here in the list - 'ncr77c22e'.  What might this
imply?

> > (using VT number 7)
> > 
> > Xconfig: //Xconfig
> > Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
> > FontPath set to "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/us
> > r/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> > NCR 77C22 Type 2, Version 3
> > VGA256: ncr77c22e (mem: 1024k numclocks: 8)

And, wonder of wonders, the server recognizes it!

> > VGA256:   clocks:  25.18  28.32  40.10  65.50  45.10  50.10   0.70  75.50
> > VGA256: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  25.000, clock used =  25.180
> > VGA256: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  50.000, clock used =  50.100
> > VGA256: Mode "1024x768": mode clock =  75.000, clock used =  75.500
> > VGA256: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
> > VGA256: SpeedUp code selection modified because chipset != et4000
> > VGA256: SpeedUp mode selected (Flags=0x30)
> > PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
> > Cannot open mouse: 
> > Invalid argument
> 
> a) obviously this NCR video card has no et4000 ;)
>    comment everything OUT in file /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig that belongs to
>    vga256, comment IN what belongs to vga2.
>    Then cd /usr/bin/X11; rm X; ln -s XF86_Mono X

What does ET4000 have to do with anything?  NCR chipsets are fully supported
by the XF86_SVGA server.

> 
> b) your mouse device is wrong.
>    edit Xconfig with the correct one. I dunno, what YOU have. *I* use a
>    Logitech Pilot, which will be 
>       Microsoft "/dev/ttyS0"

THIS is the only correct statement in this posting.  For whatever reason,
the mouse can't be accessed.  Since I don't run Linux, I can't help with
this.

> 
> c) Never mind Roman_M

c) Either install the PEX part of the distribution or relink the server
   with PEX excluded (using the Link Kit).  Then beat up the SLS distributer
   for only including half of the package.

It is essentially harmless, though.

> 
> > Fatal server error:
> > failed to initialize core devices
> > xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unexpected signal 13
> > ------------end of output 
> > 
> >  I don't understand this clocks number          \/
> >  clocks:  25.18  28.32  40.10  65.50  45.10  50.10   0.70  75.50
> >                                                      ^^^^
> >  it seems to be incorrect?
> 
> Yep, timing error, never mind ...
> They will never be used.

Not a timing error.  There just doesn't happen to be a valid clock selected
by index 0x06 on this particular board.  Not at all uncommon.

> 
> >  My screen is always unreadble after startx, I don't know where is font file 
> >  Roman_M, I've also verified that the mouse is well pluged to the slot.
> 
> This seems to be a bug.
> You can work around by pressing ALT-F<another console>.
> E.g. ALT-F2 if you started X on screen 1 (the bootup screen)
> 
> >  Any help greatly appreciated. I've posted this for a week on 
> >  comp.windows.x.i386unix with no reply!!
> >  Thanks
> >  rachid
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Don't you know, that, if you start Linux on DOS (ROTFL), it deletes all
> files with the string 'Microsoft' in it?
>                                       - Fritz Ganter -

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From: mattias@shogun (Mattias Olsson)
Subject: Why doesnt lpr work ?
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 14:09:35 GMT

Hello there !

I cant get lpr to work on my Linux machine !
I get all kinds of error messages , like ,jobs are quued but cant start deamon,
or cant create look-file , and so on.
What is wrong , have I installed everything corectly ?

Help me please !!!

[email-masked] 

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From: [email-masked] (Min Hu)
Subject: paste dose not work in x-window, help
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 14:30:03 GMT

Help needed:

My Linux machine is running very impressive. But I have got a problem with my
mouse. 
I have a three button MS compatible serial mouse. When I run x-window (twm),
the left button works fine, it can highlight text in xterm and textedit well.
However, when I press right button, it will not paste. At the first, I suspected
the problem is my mouse. Then I changed another mouse, it is the same. Anybody
out there can tell me how to solve the problem? Thank you very much.

MIN 

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From: [email-masked] (Ralf Vogt)
Subject: BTX Software for Linux Anyone?
Date: 7 Oct 93 15:42:24

Does anyone know if there exists BTX (i.e., "home banking") software
for Linux?

Thanks,
rv

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