Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #103
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 07:13:19 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #103, Volume #2               Sun, 25 Sep 94 07:13:19 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work? (Shannon Hendrix)
  Re: Xfree86 Config Prob. (Shannon Hendrix)
  ** Help : Linux And Stacker : Possible ? ** (Rajib Rashid)
  yggra... (however you spell it): installing emacs w/out xprogs (Bob Pasker)
  NNTP Server (Craig Peterson)
  Re: LINUX WANTED !!! (Tom Griffing)
  Re: Multiple Novell logins under DOSEMU. How? (Rob Janssen)
  Re: rdev -R /vmlinuz ?!? (Stefan Markgraf)
  Re: PPP install and setup (Piotr Kapiszewski)
  Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Dale Elrod)
  Re: AutoMount For Linux (Jocke Berglund)
  Re: What user interface to use??? (Sergio Fanchiotti)

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Crossposted-To: utah.linux
From: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work?
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:34:37 GMT

Tobias S. Keidl ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article <[email-masked]>, Jay Cox <[email-masked]> wrote:
: >Pete Kruckenberg ([email-masked]) wrote:
: >If you want backup device of that size, you will need to raise your
: >$$$$ a bit.  Right now the QIC-80 devices are about the only thing
: >around for less than $750 US or so. Also, I dont think you can split

I got my QIC-250 for only $270 US.  I see 525mb drives for under $500 US.

: >a backup across multiple tapes with the current ftape, you need to make
: >seperate tar files on different tapes.  Kind of a pain but better than
: >no backup at all.

: Actually, if you get the backup scripts at sunsite in 
: /pub/Linux/system/Backup yoe can backup over multible fixed
: size tapes.
: -- 
: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
:    [email-masked]                            Tobias S. Keidl
:    [email-masked]                  Physics/Astronomy
:                                               Northwestern University
-- 
csh
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[email-masked]      | Linux and BSD

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From: [email-masked] (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: Xfree86 Config Prob.
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:39:59 GMT

Joseph Weiner ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I have a problem when I run ConfigXF86 to configure Xfree86
: for Slackware. I seem to be able to configure ok for my ATI
: graphics ultra and Viewsonic 7 monitor but when I run Tune
: then I have some trouble.It tells me something about flickering
: and then when I tell it to proceed I see some error msgs flash
: up which are then erased as the screen is cleared. It tries to tell
: me what modes are available but gives a msg something like ,"
: cat /tmp/1541.tmm no such file or directory" I should mention

Last time I saw that I was running from under X.  When I run from
the console, it does not happen.
-- 
csh
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[email-masked]      | Linux and BSD

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
From: [email-masked] (Rajib Rashid)
Subject: ** Help : Linux And Stacker : Possible ? **
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 07:29:01 GMT

Hello:

        Does anyone know whether it is possible to access a stacked drive
(Stacker version 3.1) while booting the linux partition? I have my hard
drive partitioned into dos and linux ones, and when I load linux, I can
access the parent dos partition (/dev/hda1) and I can also see the stacker
file (stacvol.000) ... but is there any way to access the files in the
stacked drive?

        Thank you in advance. Please mail reply to
[email-masked].

Rajib Rashid
Univ. of Rochester

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From: [email-masked] (Bob Pasker)
Subject: yggra... (however you spell it): installing emacs w/out xprogs
Date: 24 Sep 1994 23:38:29 GMT

it seems that if you install_component emacs, but not xprogs, you
cannot run emacs without having the CD in the drive.  it says:

        emacs: can't find library 'libX11.s0.3'

libX11.s0.3 is linked from /usr/lib/X11R6/lib/libX11.s0.3 to the /system_cd...

can someone recommend a solution?

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- [email-masked]
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Subject: NNTP Server
From: [email-masked] (Craig Peterson)
Date: 22 Sep 94 16:44:12 MDT

Is there an NNTP Server for Linux?  Where can I
get it and what does it work well?  Thanks.

Craig Peterson

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Griffing)
Subject: Re: LINUX WANTED !!!
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 01:50:14 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Franck  <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>       I want to install Linux on my PC.
>       I have some very simple questions :
>
>       - What's the last version of Linux ?
>       - Where can I find it ? (ftp site...)

Linux is available in several "distributions".  The one
I use is the Slackware distribution, and the latest
version can be ftp'ed from:

  sunsite.unc.edu : /pub/Linux/distributions/slackware

If you don't want to spend a day or two ftp'ing files,
you can get one of the distributions on CD-ROM.  They
can be had for any of several prices, some even include
OSF/Motif.

>         Is documentation about installation, administration be complete and
>         clear ?

I find the documentation included in the Slackware 
distribution to be very adequate, and the admin tools
to be good (but then again, I'm a systems administrator).

You can find some good starter documentation on sunsite.

Hope this helps,

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 _____________________________________________________
| Thomas L. Griffing       |                          |
| [email-masked]         |  (214) 352-3441          |
|__________________________|__________________________|

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From: [email-masked] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Multiple Novell logins under DOSEMU. How?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:20:56 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mark Evans) writes:

>Rob Janssen ([email-masked]) wrote:

>: This is a known problem.
>: You can help solving it when you can tell us how the Citrix DOS emulator
>: handles this situation.  This requires technical knowledge and a packet
>: sniffer, or maybe they just explain it in the manual and you can give
>: that information.
>: It may also be a clue if this Citrix product asks you for an "IPX network
>: number" to use on each PC when it is installed, claiming that it has to
>: be a different number from what you are using everywhere else.

>It may not bother, simply using the IP address of the first ethernet card
>will give you a unique 32 bit number.

Hmmm... No.
The number must be unique in the "IPX network numbers" world, and getting
a number which is unique for IP does not guarantee anything.
The IP address of your system can be the same as the network number of
an IPX network!

>: Besides, it is better to use LSL/PDETHER 1.3/IPXODI than the PDIPX you
>: are currently using.   But that won't solve your problem.

>The netware shell tries to bind the RIP socket, only one process can
>do this.

As Alan Cox also indicated, there are two different methods of accessing
Netware from dosemu.  One uses the packet driver, and it fails when using
multiple dosemu boxes because they each use the same link-level address
and therefore Netware believes the second logon comes from the same PC
after a crash/reboot (I think).
The other method uses kernel IPX and should be a better way towards a
good solution.  But as you indicate there still are problems.

Rob
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| Rob Janssen                | AMPRnet:   [email-masked]           |
| e-mail: [email-masked]     | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU     |
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From: [email-masked] (Stefan Markgraf)
Subject: Re: rdev -R /vmlinuz ?!?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 08:26:29 GMT

You, [email-masked], wrote

>But rdev -R /vmlinuz 1; lilo does not work as usual, the 
>filesystem is not checked.

That's okay. The filesystem is checked only if the partition flag is not
clean (e.g. due to power-failure or switching the computer off without
halting the system) or if the maximal mount count is reached.

Okidoki,
        Stefan.
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sig: Stefan              {   }          [email-masked]
     Markgraf            {   }          Phone: +49 531 391 5231
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [email-masked] (Piotr Kapiszewski)
Subject: Re: PPP install and setup
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 05:52:25 GMT

Jim Williams ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Greg J. Pryzby ([email-masked]) wrote:
: : I am running the 1.1.49 kernel of Linux.  I got 2.1.2a of ppp from the
: : net and built and installed.

: : Now the questions:
: :     There are files that are referenced in /etc/ppp, but I can't find 
: :         examples of the files...
: :     There are many readme and SETUP, Notes, etc files, but they all seem
: :         to talk about what is needed to setup/install ppp and what needs to
: :         be done withour reference to the others.... I am confused,,,

There are basically four files you are interested in:

        ppp-on
                ip-up

        ppp-off
                ip-down

Each one of them is a shell script (at least that works for me on my machine)

The first pair is used to setup a connection and take care of all the things
that  might be needed to use the interface.

The second pair does the opposite. 

The ip-up and ip-down are executed by the pppd so they really have nothing to 
do with the wrappers (ppp-on and off).  In my case they look something like this:

==================== ppp=on script begin ==============
#!/bin/sh 

#
#       ppp-on
#
#       Set up a PPP link
#
#
# "ppp-on:"     messages will appear as the script is being executed 
#               to prompt on what action the script is attempting
#
# Sun Sep 25 00:22:28 GMT 1994 - (kapis-p) 
#       added the comments and made generic modifications to the script

# Define the directory where the lock file will go
LOCKDIR=/var/spool/lock

# Define the device you dialing modem is attached to and its speed
DEVICE=cua1
SPPED=19200

# Define the phone number to be used for dialing
PHONE=

# Define your ppp login and password
USER=
PASSWORD=

# Define your internal IP and the REMOTE IP to be used
OUR_IP_ADDR=
REMOTE_IP=

# Define the location of programs that will be called by this script
FIX_CUA=/etc/ppp/fix-cua
CHAT=/etc/ppp/chat
PPPD=/etc/ppp/pppd

echo "ppp-on:   Attempting to establish a remote link..."

if [ -f $LOCKDIR/LCK..$DEVICE ]
then
    echo "ppp-on:       PPP device is locked"
    exit 1
fi

$FIX_CUA $DEVICE

echo "ppp-on:   Dialing..."

(
    stty $SPEED -tostop crtscts

    if $CHAT -v -f connection.script
    then
        $PPPD /dev/$DEVICE $SPEED debug mru 1500 modem defaultroute $OUR_IP_ADDR:$REMOTE_IP 
        echo "ppp-on:   PPP deamon is running..." 1>&2
        sleep 10
        exit 0
    else
        echo "ppp-on:   PPP call failed" 1>&2
        exit 1
    fi
) < /dev/$DEVICE > /dev/$DEVICE

======================== ppp=on end ==========================

========================ppp=off begin ========================

#!/bin/sh
#
#       ppp-off
#
#       Terminate a PPP link
#
# "ppp-off:"    messages will apear as the script is being executed
#               to prompt on what action the script is attempting
#
#
# Sun Sep 25 00:22:28 GMT 1994 - (kapis-p) 
#       added the comments and made generic modifications to the script

# Send a SIGINT to the pppd 
echo "ppp-off:  Sending SIGINT to pppd pid(`ps -ax | grep "pppd /dev"  | grep -v "grep" | awk '{ print $1 }'`)..."
kill -2 `ps -ax | grep "pppd /dev"  | grep -v "grep" | awk '{ print $1 }'`
echo "ppp-off:  pppd is down!"
exit 0

====================  ppp=off end =======================

======================ip=up begin ============================

#!/bin/sh
#
#       /etc/ppp/ip-up
#              A program or script which is executed when the link
#              is  available  for sending and receiving IP packets
#              (that is, IPCP has come up).  It is  executed  with
#              the   parameters  interface-name  tty-device  speed
#              local-IP-address remote-IP-address.
#
#              This program or script is executed  with  the  same
#              real  and  effective  user-ID  as pppd, that is, at
#              least the effective user-ID and possibly  the  real
#              user-ID  will  be  root.  This is so that it can be
#              used to manipulate routes, run  privileged  daemons
#              (e.g.   sendmail),  etc.   Be careful that the con-
#              tents of the  /etc/ppp/ip-up  and  /etc/ppp/ip-down
#              scripts do not compromise your system's security.

# Define args which the script will receive from the ppp-on
INTERFACE=$1 
TTY_DEVICE=$2 
SPEED=$3 
LOCAL_IP=$4 
REMOTE_IP=$5

REMOTE_UP_PROC=ping

echo "ip-up:    Starting process [$REMOTE_UP_PROC] to keep connection up" 1>&2
/bin/ping somemachine

======================== ip=up end ===========================

======================= ip=down begin ==============================

#!/bin/sh 
#
#      /etc/ppp/ip-down
#              A program or script which is executed when the link
#              is no longer available for sending and receiving IP
#              packets.   This  script can be used for undoing the
#              effects  of  the  /etc/ppp/ip-up  script.   It   is
#              invoked  with  the  same  parameters  as  the ip-up
#              script, and the same security considerations apply,
#              since  it  is  executed with the same effective and
#              real user-IDs as pppd.

# Define args which the script will receive from the ppp-off
INTERFACE=$1 
TTY_DEVICE=$2 
SPEED=$3 
LOCAL_IP=$4 
REMOTE_IP=$5

=================== ip=down end =========================

===================== conversation.script ==================

ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' '' ATZ OK ATDT555-1212
CONNECT
"" ogin: USERNAME ssword: PASSWORD

#### in the above you should put your own USERNAME and PASSWORD not thees
#### words. and then remove these two lines...

=======================================

Ok here they are.  There is still some problems though.  Namly I am having 
problems keeping the connection up automatically.. I have to manual run 
some command such as ping or something to keep it up.  The automatic  way
which I included in the above scripts doesnt work for me.  

I posted a question about it to the group too so maybe someone else knows.

Also there is no 'on-demand dailing' support in this version of pppd so
you can do somthing like telnet machine and have your modem dial it up
and establish a connection.

A daemon that can do that is dp-2.3 or somthingk like that but I am having
a hell of a time trying to port it to the Linux box.  Maybe someone with more
knowledge of the internals could do that.

I will make the above scripts nice and upload them to sunsite some time soon
or I can post them here since they are small enought if there is interest.

I hope that will help you get started.  I just got my box on the net in the
same way and it kicks.... (or blows chunks as my friend likes to refer to it) ;-)

-Kapi

-- 
Kapi, 542 Baldy Hall, 645-2448

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From: [email-masked] (Dale Elrod)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
Date: 25 Sep 1994 09:17:03 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: Why settle for slow and obselete Unix such as UnixWare, Sun Solaris,
: SCO, Linux or BSD when you can have POWER & RELIABILITY with QNX 4.21!  
: Stop playing games with these inferior o/s's and switch to QNX today.

Yeah, right.

: Florida Datamation has been a QNX distributor for 10 years! We are nice,
: knowledgable and go the extra mile for the sale. And, we promise to BEAT
: ANYONE'S PRICE! A complete QNX developer's package starts at just $195! 

Beat this, Linux $0.00

If you can beat this price I will take all the copies you care to pass this
way. I  will have you know Linux is great. I run an Internet Service Provider
business with it, and it is bloody fast. And with much more support, easy to
get, just from the newsgroups.

--
+-----------------------------+------------------+---------------------+
| Dale Elrod                  | [email-masked] | 3 Hazel Close       |
| Dungeon Network Systems     | +44-1638-711550  | Mildenhall, Suffolk |
| Internet Access for 10 quid | [email-masked] | IP28 7HU            |
+-----------------------------+------------------+---------------------+

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From: [email-masked] (Jocke Berglund)
Subject: Re: AutoMount For Linux
Date: 25 Sep 1994 10:43:00 +0100

[email-masked] (Thomas Koenig) writes:

>SethMeister G. ([email-masked]) wrote in comp.os.linux.admin,
>       article <[email-masked]>:

>>  Does anyone know if there is an AutoMount Utility, Like Volume
>>Manager on Solaris, available for Linux.

>Yes, it works fairly well (look at any sunsite mirror for 'amd').
>However, I have been unable to get it to work with NFS mounted directories
>and blocksizes > 1k.  Has anybody managed this?
>--

I'm also looking for a automounter for linux and yes i've lokked at AMD,
but that isn't compatible with automiuntd for SUN's and other machines. So
that isn't a solution that I can use.. (it has to use auto.home/auto.master)
So if any one know about a automounter that does YP, plese tell me.

Joakim Berglund    [email-masked]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: [email-masked] (Sergio Fanchiotti)
Subject: Re: What user interface to use???
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 09:57:25 GMT

[email-masked] (Jeff Kesselman) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Tony Schwartz <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>When do dial into your local ISP using a standard terminal connection, what 
>>software is used to providet the menuing, ability to do internet functions 
>>like telnet, ftp, gopher, etc???

>telnet provides telnet.
>ftp provides ftp
>gopher provides gopher
>etc.
>there is no menuing as such, they axre all command-line driven.

>All these UNIX utilities are designed to be run from the command line.  
>The menuing systems you might be familiar with are all front ends that 
>call these programs.

>Oh, and manual pages are veiwed byt typing man.
>(Type 'man man' for an explaination of how to use the online manual.)

>Welcome to the real world of UNIX.
> 

On the other hand, most of these utilities have been integrated into the 
World Wide Web protocol and can be accessed via clients. When you are 
using a terminal one could use Lynx for ftp, telnet connections, gopher
and much more! Definitively a great tool...

        Saludos,

                ...Sergio

ps: An as we are in the "real world of UNIX" here is the best thing:
    You can get the program and docs at ftp2.cc.ukans.edu in pub/lynx 

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