Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #104
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 13:13:28 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #104, Volume #2               Sun, 25 Sep 94 13:13:28 EDT

Contents:
  HELP -*- MANPATH does't work -*- why not (NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt)
  c++ problem with Slackware 2.0 distribution (Peter Tieleman)
  Re: fvwm startup problems (Lee Sau Dan 李守敦)
  Re: Reinstallation (Greg Cisko)
  Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 (Alan Osborne)
  G3->something_nice NEEDED (Davor Jadrijevic)
  bind() bug, might have a fix (Neil Charley)
  Repartition linux disk without lose of data (Yonggang Qiu)
  Re: NFS Bootdisk? (& X-Server via NFS) (Gerald Beuchelt)
  Problem with X crash!! (Chatchalerm Namwongprom)
  Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 (Kai Voigt)
  Re: Linux DOOM: Congrats IDsoftware (Robert J. Shmit)
  Re: Deskjets and Ghostscript? (Steve Whorwood)
  Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 (David Inwoong Hong)
  Re: lp polling driver = no irq? (Uwe Bonnes)
  Re: Xfree86 Config Prob. (Duncan Sutherland)
  Re: URGENT: /dev/cua* problems with mouse and modem (B. Rogers)
  Generic Linux System Admin Tool design (Tal Yuval)
  Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49 (FranzJosef Knelangen)
  Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Roman Gollent)
  Wanted: A Working Xconfig file for STB Express PCI ("Maurice Childs")
  Re: simple network (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: PPP install and setup (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: Linux on CD ok but X is soooo sloooow!!! (Eric Reiner)
  Re: Linux as KingGod NFS Server to DOS Slaves (Kevin Martinez)

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From: [email-masked] (NISCHELWITZER Alexander Kurt)
Subject: HELP -*- MANPATH does't work -*- why not
Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:24:29 GMT

Hi all,

I have set my own MANPATH in my .tcshrc file
but if I look to the env settings they are not
there.

So I thougt I will change man.config but it doesn't 
work (e.g. I wanted to include (/usr/TeX/man etc.)!          

Does anyone know where the real System MANPATH is stored
and how I can install a additional private MANPATH!

Cheers,         
                Nischi

PS: Please email [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Peter Tieleman)
Subject: c++ problem with Slackware 2.0 distribution
Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:40:53 GMT

Hello,

Perhaps this question would be better off in a gnu group, but since I use the
Slackware distribution:
        I am trying to compile c++ programs, but they seem unable to find or
use the c include files like <stdio.h> and <math.h>. For C everything works fine.
Did I miss some setup things? Or what am I doing wrong? I do have the c++
libraries and include files installed ...

An example of what happens:
#include <math.h>
#include <stdio.h>

main(){
  float x;
  x = cos(3.14);
  printf("Hallo");
}

gcc -o test test.cc
/tmp/cca041071.o: Undefined symbol _cos referenced from text segment

Compilation exited abnormally with code 1 at Sun Sep 25 13:40:34

Thanks for any help,
Peter

-- 
Peter Tieleman
email:          [email-masked]         home: Louise Henriettestraat 11
telephone:      31-50-634337                       9717 LH Groningen
fax:            31-50-634800                       The Netherlands
address:        Dept. of Biophysical Chemistry     tel: 31-50-183714
                Nijenborgh 4
                9747 AG  Groningen
                The Netherlands

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From: [email-masked] (Lee Sau Dan 李守敦)
Subject: Re: fvwm startup problems
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:43:19 GMT

Steven M. Gallo ([email-masked]) wrote:
>>>> parameters they need. First execute these x-apps and then as last line in
>>>> your .xinitrc state 'exec fvwm'
>> 
>> Why the exec ?

To save resources.  Without 'exec', the shell will go to 'sleep' and wait
for fvwm to terminate.  The sleeping shell can occupy memory as well as
other resources such as process tables, etc.  'exec' just tells the shell
to die and execute fvwm.  So, the shell process gets replaced by the fvwm 
process, using its process space, etc.

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From: [email-masked] (Greg Cisko)
Subject: Re: Reinstallation
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:44:41 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked]

In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Nate Hill) writes:
>       I want to install the new slackware, but I don't want to start over
> again from nothing.  I installed the slack that was out in late august, so
> my setup isn't that old.  I would like to know if it's possible to just
> install the new stuff overtop of the old.  I only want to reinstall disk
> sets a d and n.  

The >d< disk set is gcc, and I would think it would be okay to re-install
over top of your old gcc. THe >n< disks is the network stuff. I would expect
that this wouldn't hurt either. The >a< disk though??? That is the base system.
Installing over it, is not reccomended. 

> 
> Thanks,
>   Nate Hill
>       
> 

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From: [email-masked] (Alan Osborne)
Subject: Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 11:36:48 +0000

David Inwoong Hong ([email-masked]) wrote:

: Whenever I try, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt

: I get an error,

You now need to specify readonly. i.e.: 
mount -rt iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt
will work.  

-- 
AlanO

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From: [email-masked] (Davor Jadrijevic)
Subject: G3->something_nice NEEDED
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:59:32 GMT

HI!

Does someone have g3topbm or g3->gif that works smoothly?
I have a g3topbm that doesn't reproduce the picture nicely.
(every second dot at the edges of images is missing, computer
bitmap fonts like 8x8 are unreadable because of this effect).

Any pointer will be appreciated.

Best regards, Davor
--
<[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
================ Davor Jadrijevic ====================

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From: [email-masked] (Neil Charley)
Subject: bind() bug, might have a fix
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:57:24 GMT

  Whilst testing out my talker code I happened upon a rather nasty bug
in Linux, I certainly hope it isn't meant to be a feature!
  Basically for non-systems ports, ANY user can at ANY time bind() any
port number, if a process already 'owns' the port, even if the process
is owned by root! This means that if you run some sort of server,
someone else can come along and run a program to bind() the port, and
any new connections go to it. With the help of a friend I managed to
track down where the bind() for AF_INET sockets is actually done, and
worked out a fix. It seems to work fine, got it running on test atm.
  The code now allows uid 0 to always grab a port as before, and any
other user to grab non-system (>= 1024) ports if and only if there
isn't a running process that is bound to that port. I'm using the
->dead data member to test if there is an 'alive' process attached to
the port, is this correct?
  I have a diff patch against the sources for 1.1.51, but have been
unable to find who is the best person to send this to for it to be
checked and maybe made official, any offers?

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From: [email-masked] (Yonggang Qiu)
Subject: Repartition linux disk without lose of data
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:34:17 GMT

I repartioned the disk for the use of Linux as following:

 Disk /dev/hda: 13 heads, 32 sectors, 983 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 416 * 512 bytes

    Device Boot  Begin   Start     End  Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hda1   *       1       1     394   81936    6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
 /dev/hda2         395     395     454   12480   82  Linux swap
 /dev/hda3         455     455     983  110032   83  Linux native

In the begining, I had quite few RAM. That is why gave 12MB for swap.
Now I extend the RAM to 12MB and need less swap than before. 

How can I repartion the disk and reduce the size of swap without
loss of data?

Thanks in advance.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yonggang Qiu                           
 Institute for Information-system  |    e-mail: [email-masked]
 ETH-Zentrum                       |    phone:  (+41-1) 632 7228
 CH-8092 Zurich,Switzerland        |    fax:    (+41-1) 632 1172
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: [email-masked] (Gerald Beuchelt)
Subject: Re: NFS Bootdisk? (& X-Server via NFS)
Date: 25 Sep 1994 13:42:40 GMT

There is a package in ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/os/linux/local/network/netboot
called netboot that allows you to boot a PC-Linux based X-Server from the network.
I haven't tried it myself and as far as I know it is beta-ware, but you might like it.

Gerald

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From: [email-masked] (Chatchalerm Namwongprom)
Subject: Problem with X crash!!
Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:03:41 GMT

        I am a quite-new linux user. I have some problem... 8-(
My X server usually crash!! e.g. I'm using rxvt, execute some programs 
(like XFractInt). When I exit from program and back to rxvt again, I try 
to open other rxvt by commanding windows manager (fvwm) but it doesn't 
appear.. and so I will exit X-server .. I command fvwm again but it 
doesn't exit from X-server and my system crash COMPLETELY!!! (my system 
don't care any keyboard or mouse events) so I have to RESET
(I have tried my friend's system.. It seems better) My system config is
                486DX-33
                8 Mb. RAM
                Cirrus Logic CL5428
                12 Mb. Swap space

        I hope there are some wise men to help me 8-)

        *-----------------------------------------------------*
        |        ----CHAT ([email-masked])----        |
        |   grade 11 student at Kasetsart University Lab.     |
        |   school in Thailand. interested in UNIX system     |
        |   ,graphics,fractal programming                     |
        *-----------------------------------------------------*

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From: [email-masked] (Kai Voigt)
Subject: Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49
Date: 25 Sep 1994 10:31:44 +0100

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (David Inwoong Hong) writes:

>Hi. Linuxers.

>I am having difficulty mounting Mitusmi CD. 
>I upgraded the kernel from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49 recently, and now
>I don't seem to be able to mount CD.

>Whenever I try, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt

>I get an error,

>mount -readfile only.

Use the option -r in the mount command, this will mount your CD-Rom
readonly.

>I checked ftab, and etc.., but can't figure it out.

In /etc/ftab you should use the option ro at the end of the line that
mounts the CD-Rom.

Kai
-- 
Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 24148 Kiel, Germany, +49 431 7297514
"3.2 Kostet EMail Geld?"  "... Aus verstaendlichen Gruenden wird es nicht
gerne gesehen, dass unnoetige oder gar private Mails verschickt werden."
                     -- aus FAQ der Informatik, Uni-Kiel

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From: [email-masked] (Robert J. Shmit)
Subject: Re: Linux DOOM: Congrats IDsoftware
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 21:53:49 GMT

Harry C Pulley ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Get the doom_16to8bit_snd.tgz (there is also a version 2 of this file that I
: haven't tried out yet) file.  It allows me to play music through my 8-bit
: card.

linuxxdoom plays MUSIC? what patch do i need? where do i get it? who can i
kill for it??? :)
-- 
======================+==================================================
[email-masked] | Send me your poor, your lonely, your crippled masses
======================+ of Atogs. I will still accept them at NO CHARGE to
Brian Cully           | you! Email me for information about my home for

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Steve Whorwood)
Subject: Re: Deskjets and Ghostscript?
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 04:27:53 +0000

In article <[email-masked]>
           [email-masked] "Benjamin John Walter" writes:

> 
> Hi,
> 
>    I'm trying to use ghostscript so that my humble DeskJet 500 can
> emulate a spiffy PostScript printer.  I'm invoking gs like this:
> 
> gs -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=deskjet -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r300 -sOutputFile=/dev/lp1 -
                                                                           ^^
There's the problem. Try -sOutputFile=lpr. If you want the output to go
to the stdout, you'll have to use the -dQUIET switch along with 
-sOutputfile= -.

>   The output is at the end of this posting.  What I'm really trying to
> do is make it so that I can print out *NICE* documents on my deskjet.
> I want to change the font & font size so that I can fit more on one
> page then in the standard 12pt (10pt?) courier.  I'd also like to
> print more than one 'page' on each physical page.   Does anyone
> have any suggestions?

I've just installed a2ps and apsfilter which do much of what you want.
They make it easy to print ps, text that it converts to ps, dvi, and the
output of man converted to ps. You can print single pages to a sheet or
double pages to a sheet, with or without headers.

If you're interested, it's on (amongst other places) ftp.demon.co.uk, under
/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/contrib as aps-23.tgz.

There are a couple of little bugettes with it as it comes out of the box.
One's just a missing command option in the apsfilter script file for single
sided printing. The other is in the a2ps source. It assumes the output from
"man  foo > test" will have the bold characters represented as a
sequence of 3 backspace/character combos when, in fact, it only produces 1
on my setup. Without tweaking, it didn't embolden the output of man.
It's a trivial tweak, so if you decide to go for apsfilter and want to
chase it, let me know. I'll have to get round to mailing the author. 

-- 
Steve Whorwood                     :Resurgam
E-Mail                              [email-masked]

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From: David Inwoong Hong <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 07:41:18 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 25 Sep 1994, Richard Lamont wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.admin you write:
> 
> >Hi. Linuxers.
> 
> >I am having difficulty mounting Mitusmi CD. 
> >I upgraded the kernel from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49 recently, and now
> >I don't seem to be able to mount CD.
> 
> >Whenever I try, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt
> 
> >I get an error,
> 
> >mount -readfile only.
> 
> >Any ideas.?
> 
> >I checked ftab, and etc.., but can't figure it out.
> 
> Hello David. You need to edit the entry in /etc/fstab, to change the fourth
> field from "defaults" to "ro".
> 
> Richard.
> 

Hi, Richard.

Well apparently it works! Yeh!
Thanks for the info.

Regards,

David

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From: [email-masked] (Uwe Bonnes)
Subject: Re: lp polling driver = no irq?
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 05:11:23 GMT

Andre Fachat ([email-masked]) wrote:
> Hi there!

> When my Linux box boots, I get something like
> "lp_init: lp2 exists, using polling driver"

> Does that mean, I can assign the now used IRQ for the printer
> to another serial port?

You could, but I would use "tunelp /dev/lp? -i 7" to use the interrupt for
printing again (performance).  B.t.w. as long as you don't print, the
printerinterrupt is free. 
When using a newer kernal, try ' cat /proc/interrupts' when printing and
when not.
> Will DOS go on printing?
Yes

-- 
Uwe Bonnes  [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Duncan Sutherland)
Subject: Re: Xfree86 Config Prob.
Date: 23 Sep 1994 15:48:28 GMT

:    My Xfree installation did not have any problems that I know
: of. I chose mach8 as the shell for my graphics ultra.
:    Any ideas?
:    Thanks,
:    Joe

I just ran into that problem with my X installation - what solved it for 
me was to forego the fine tune section, just save the config to disk.  It 
worked for me.

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From: [email-masked] (B. Rogers)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: URGENT: /dev/cua* problems with mouse and modem
Date: 23 Sep 1994 13:26:07 -0500

In article <[email-masked]>, Patrick Reijnen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Since this weekend I have severe problems with my system.
>I tried to install a soundblaster 16ASP using the factory
>settings (irq5, irq0 and an unknown irq for the mitsumi
>cdrom).
>
>After rebuilding the kernel with sbpcd support and iso9660
>I rebooted the system (yes, I reinstalled using lilo).

You need to read the documentation for the SB16 to find out the IRQ and
base I/O address for the mitsumi.  Don't use the sbpcd support, use the
mcd support.  You'll have to specify the base I/O and IRQ in mcd.h because
the defaults probably won't work because the SoundBlaster will be occupying
the normal mitsumi IRQ.
I have a SB16 + Mitsumi 2x and this is what I had to do.  It works fine.

Seizure Later!
-- 
/* Brian Rogers, disciple of Java, [email-masked] */

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Subject: Generic Linux System Admin Tool design
From: [email-masked] (Tal Yuval)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 14:17:08 GMT

The first draft of the generic linux system admin tool design is out.
The generic linux system admin tool is a package of tools, accessed through a
user-friendly menu system for adminstrating, installing, and configuring
Linux distributions.

Currently we are looking for volunteers who will read the document and comment
on it so coding could be start.

The design document can be found at:

   ftp.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il @ /pub/yuvalt/admin/admin_design-0.0.2.tar.gz

Please send comments to Yuval Tal ([email-masked])

Thank you.

==============================================================================
Yuval Tal, System programmer // Faculty of mathematics
[email-masked] // Weizmann Institute Of Science, Rehovot, Israel

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From: [email-masked] (FranzJosef Knelangen)
Subject: Re: mounting Misumi CD on 1.1.49
Date: 25 Sep 1994 09:12:18 GMT

David Inwoong Hong ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi. Linuxers.

: I am having difficulty mounting Mitusmi CD. 
: I upgraded the kernel from 1.0.9 to 1.1.49 recently, and now
: I don't seem to be able to mount CD.

: Whenever I try, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt

: I get an error,

: mount -readfile only.

: Any ideas.?

Hey, David, the system told you -> you have to mount the CD-Drive readonly.

On my system:

 alias mitsumi='mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom'
                      ^^ don't forget these two !!

cu:FJK

: I checked ftab, and etc.., but can't figure it out.

: Thanks

: David

--
Franz-Josef Knelangen,Deutsches Seminar 203-3241 <[email-masked]>
!You still can escape the GATES of hell: LinuX-the choice of a GNU generation!

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From: [email-masked] (Roman Gollent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
Date: 25 Sep 1994 15:59:31 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: QNX 4.21 represents the culmination of over a decade of research and 
: experience with an installed base of over 250,000 microkernel, message-
: passing QNX operating systems world-wide.  QNX combines the function-
: ality and flexibility of a research-calibre OS with the robustness and
: performance of a commercial OS! And, it's fast!

Never heard of it, don't care to know about it.

Roman

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From: [email-masked] ("Maurice Childs")
Subject: Wanted: A Working Xconfig file for STB Express PCI
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:43:49 GMT

I just recently installed Linux Slackware from PCPlus Magazines cover CD. 
I now have a fully working Linux OS on my PC, but haven't managed to get 
X Windows to work. The problem is with my Xconfig file, 'cos I can't find 
any example one which works even remotely with my graphics card.

I have an STB Express PCI with 1MB of DRAM. The processor on it is an 
Avance ALG 2301 gfx processor with VESA BIOS. Oh - and guess what - it's 
on a PCI local Bus.... :-)

My Monitor is the VS15 that came with my Dell XPS P60 - if anyone's got 
any more info on that it would be appreciated but I don't think I have a 
problem with that - just the card's setup. 
The ConfigXF86 program that comes with this version of Linux CANNOT 
detect anything about the card - and I have given up fiddling with it. 
Any help woul be most appreciated....

 - Bryan -
 [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: simple network
Date: 23 Sep 1994 21:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Herve BURTIN ecrit:

> I have 2 pc and 2 ne2000 compatible card, I am root on 1 pc, my brother on the 2,
> how configure network ? can you give me an exemple of the hosts file and networks
> file.

Read the book "Linux Installation & Getting Started", by Matt Welsh;
you can download the  French translation from french Linux mirror sites,
for exemple: ftp.ibp.fr:/pub/linux/french/install-guide-french-2.1.1.* 
 
(The examples given may not correspond exactly to your configfuration;
 in this case you can ask your question in fr.comp.os.linux, saving
bandwidth in the international groups)
 
--
 linux linux linux linux -[ [email-masked] ]- linux linux linux 

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From: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: PPP install and setup
Date: 23 Sep 1994 23:27:44 GMT
Reply-To: [email-masked] (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Greg J. Pryzby ecrit:

> I am running the 1.1.49 kernel of Linux.  I got 2.1.2a of ppp from the
> net and built and installed.

> Now the questions:
>     There are many readme and SETUP, Notes, etc files, but they all seem
>         to talk about what is needed to setup/install ppp and what needs to
>         be done withour reference to the others.... I am confused,,,
> (My Linux box will use a modem to call a Sun [SunOS 1.4.*].  The Sun will

Assuming that the rest of the networking configuration is proprely
set on your machine, the part of the README.Linux file starting
with these lines:

/* -- begin quote ---*/
CONNECTING TO A PPP SERVER

To use PPP, you invoke the pppd program with appropriate options.
Everything you need to know is contained in the pppd(8) manual page.
However, it's useful to see some examples:

Example 1: A simple dial-up connection.

Here's a command for connecting to a PPP server by modem.

  pppd connect 'chat -v "" ATDT5551212 CONNECT "" ogin: ppp word: whitewater' \
      /dev/cua1 38400 -detach debug crtscts modem defaultroute 192.1.1.17:

Going through pppd's options in order:        
/* -- end quote ---*/

...should be sufficient to get you started.

(The login chat script can also be used to start a command on the
 remote machine, if the remote PPP is not starded as a login shell).

--
 linux linux linux linux -[ [email-masked] ]- linux linux linux 

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From: [email-masked] (Eric Reiner)
Subject: Re: Linux on CD ok but X is soooo sloooow!!!
Date: 25 Sep 1994 11:29:20 -0500

david patterson ([email-masked]) wrote:
: In article [email-masked], [email-masked] (Larry Slane) writes:
: >I recently installed Linux from CD on to a 300MB drive.  
: >Running a 50Mhz 486slc with 8Meg RAM, but Xwindows is 
: >too slow to use, moving from one window to another it 
: >takes the system up to 30 seconds to catch up.  
: >The hard drive seems to thrash a bit and the CD is 
: >accessed at least once during this process. 
: >Would like to hear any ideas on this topic. 

X likes memory (big time).  My box with 8Meg would always be swapping.
If you are using Motif, even worse.  I upgraded to 16Meg and now I 
have speed and no swapping.  If you need X, it is worth the $300 for
the memory

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From: Kevin Martinez <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Linux as KingGod NFS Server to DOS Slaves
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 15:01:13 GMT

[email-masked] (Jason Asbahr) writes:

>Ok, maybe the subject line is a bit overdone...  :-)

>I'd like to use a Linux box as the central fileserver for a
>set of DOS boxes (and other unix-ish boxes, but that's no
>problem).  

>Can anyone recommend DOS-based NFS solutions that will allow
>command-line level remote file access as well as Windows remote
>access?  I don't need to netboot, I just need to share files.

I am successfully using the Tsoft NFS client software. It is available with 
support for several TCP/IP stacks. It can be found at various MS-DOS archive 
sites. A new version was just announced in the comp.protocols.nfs newsgroup.

There is also a package of similar functionality called XFS.

They both work well.
-- 
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 Kevin Martinez   [email-masked]   Member of the John De Armond Fan Club
 I owe all my success to Roly Poly Fish Heads!     Call: 1 510 676 1111
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