Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #124
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Linux-Admin Digest #124, Volume #2               Fri, 30 Sep 94 13:16:27 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Pentiums (thanks!) (Frank B. Brokken)
  keymap question (Mr. J.P. Gregory)

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From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Re: Pentiums (thanks!)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 22:19:09 GMT

[email-masked] (Jeff Mickey) writes:

>In article <[email-masked]>,
>Martin Spott <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>Frank B. Brokken ([email-masked]) wrote:
>>: The other day I posted a request about using pentiums with linux (or vv ?)
>>: and got about 10 reactions, generally positively answering my question about
>>: the use of linux on Pentiums.
>>
>>... and why don't you post a summary ?

Because it's quite a lot, but since you're not the only one who asks me
to do this in this particularly friendly way, I include in down below.
(Flames about the size of it can be e-mailed to Martin Spott ;-) )

>>
>>Martin.
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>>             notfalls auch "dienstlich": [email-masked]

>       Yes Please.

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From [email-masked] Sat Sep 24 11:43:28 1994
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 02:35:38 -0700
From: [email-masked] (SW Technology)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: SW Technology (214-907-0871)
Status: RO

In article <[email-masked]> you write:
>
>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?
>
>Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.
Over 90% machines we sell nowadays are Pentium ones, with Linux
pre-installed. They run marvelously.

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From [email-masked] Sat Sep 24 08:24:52 1994
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 23:26:56 -0700
From: [email-masked] (Roger Critchlow)
To: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Pentiums
Status: RO

   This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
   Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
   any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

I'm buying a Pentium 90/PCI system with Linux installed on Tuesday.

According to the supplier, (http://www.fintronic.com) there are problems
getting combinations of PCI mother boards and PCI controller cards to work
together happily.  He is, as a result, currently using a M/B which is
limited to 256K cache and 128M ram, which is the only one he's been happy
with so far.  He has a PCI SCSI controller which works, and he's waiting
on the XFree86/X11R6 release to settle on the video cards.

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From [email-masked] Sat Sep 24 02:06:20 1994
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:03:20 -0700
From: [email-masked] (David Hawkins)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: Decline to State
Status: RO

I'm running Linux 1.0.9 (slackware 2.0 release) on a NEC Pentium with
no problems. X and networking both work.

Some people have had problems of various types, like getting it to
recoginize their hard disk, but I was lucky.

later, david
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From [email-masked] Sat Sep 24 02:01:39 1994
From: [email-masked] (Drazz'zt)
To: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 18:53:10 CDT
Organization: University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Status: RO

In article <[email-masked]> on
Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:14:24 GMT you write:

>
>
>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

  Just got Linux up on my P-90 from Quantex.  I haven't had much time to play
with it so I couldn't tell you what the performance is like, but the only
install problems I had/have are with the EIDE drive (not sure if I am getting
cylinders>1024 but I think I am), and the standard getting X to run on the
bleeding edge graphics (which I finally did with help from people on the net).
  There is a howto-pci on sunsite.unc.edu which gives a list of pci boards etc.
that people have gotten linux to run on.  It is fairly small, but I am sure it
will be increasing rapidly now that P5s are coming down in price.

    -Sam

From [email-masked] Fri Sep 23 18:53:34 1994
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:51:23 +0200
From: Daniel Deimert <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Status: RO

In comp.os.linux.admin you write:
>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

I am using Slackware 2.0.0 on a home-brewed system consisting of a
P90 (Intel "Plato" MB) + a #9 GXE64pro + a NCR 53c8xx controller. Works
great.

X only works in 16 colours (using the VGA server), but XFree 3.1 will
contain support for the #9 chip.

If there is anything else you need to know, feel free to ask.

Daniel

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From [email-masked] Fri Sep 23 18:19:07 1994
From: [email-masked]
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:17:55 -0500
Posted-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:17:55 -0500
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Status: RO

Yes, have been running linux on a Dell XPS P90 for 3 months now. No big
problems.

There are some troubles during the installation, the problem I had was
on a big IDE disk but that was months ago, the new kernel now handles
big IDE's pretty well.

Hope this helps,

Maorong Zou

From [email-masked] Fri Sep 23 16:32:56 1994
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 10:32:20 -0400
From: [email-masked] (Serge Solski u)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Status: RO

In article <[email-masked]> you write:
>
>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?
>
>Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.
>
>Thanks in advance,

        I've been running Slackware 2.0 on a Gateway P5-90 for over a 
month now, with no problems at all. There's GCC optimized for the Pentium 
now, but I haven't tried it yet. Should make for a speedy machine.

        -Mark
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chest-burster, then Doubting Thomas is more of a face-hugger,' he informs,
as if that were an explanation."
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From [email-masked] Sun Sep 25 09:16:52 1994
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 94 10:20 WET
To: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
From: [email-masked] (FJ Thirion x2045 Mesanies student )
Subject: Re: Pentiums
cc: [email-masked]
Status: RO

In article <[email-masked]> you write:
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
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>From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
>Subject: Pentiums
>Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
>Keywords: Pentium
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>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

>Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.

>Thanks in advance,

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Yes, I running Linux on a 66 Pentium with PCI motherboard. 
I have not had any problems installing or running the software.

From [email-masked] Sun Sep 25 07:29:24 1994
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 02:28:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christofer D Chiappa <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Status: RO

There is no inherent problem with Linux on a Pentium...I run it here. 
The major problem seems to be with EIDE drives.  Specifically, it is a
bitch getting Linux to boot if its partition extends beyond the 1024
cylinder border.
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From [email-masked] Sun Sep 25 05:56:39 1994
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:56:01 -0600
From: [email-masked] (Frank Hage)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Runninf Linux on my Pentium
Status: RO

Frank,

I'm running Linux on my Gateway 2000 PCI P5-60 (Intel MB), 8Mb RAM,
730 MB EIDE HD, NEC260 CD-ROM, 14.4 V42bis modem, Colo memory systems
250 Mb tape.

As a total novice with PC's I installed Slackware 2.0 Pro from CD-ROM
and am running the 1.1.49 kernel. The main problem I had, was my CD-ROM
drive is not supported except as a patch to the later kernels. I had to
load Linux via MSDOS partitions. I also had a small bit of trouble with
the distribution kernels due to my large IDE HD. Once I upgraded to a
recent kernel, and pulled in the latest Ftape and ppp software,
everything worked.  I'm currently running ppp, and X from the system to
E-mail this.

-Frank Hage. National Center for Atmospheric Research. Boulder, Colorado.

From [email-masked] Sat Sep 24 23:24:29 1994
From: [email-masked]
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 13:24:12 -0800
Subject: Re: Pentiums
To: [email-masked]
Status: RO

X-News: orion.alaska.edu comp.os.linux.admin:14181

>From: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
>Subject:Pentiums
>Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:14:24 GMT
>Message-ID:<[email-masked]>

>
>This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
>Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
>any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?
>
>Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
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> 
>
Nope, no problems.  I have a PCI bus P5-60.
Not a single problem.

From [email-masked] Sun Sep 25 13:07:20 1994
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 13:06:50 +0100
From: [email-masked] (Kasper Peeters)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
Status: RO

Hi,

Ik draai Linux op een 90Mhz Pentium (plato moederbord) met 16 Mb.
Geen problemen tot nu toe. (ik heb geen SCSI drive, dus daar zul
je nog even naar moeten kijken. Dat schijnt ook het struikelblok
te zijn als je Linux op een pentium wilt draaien).

Groetjes,
Kasper

From [email-masked] Sun Sep 25 16:43:22 1994
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 94 16:40 BST-1
From: [email-masked] (Maurice Childs)
Subject: Linux on Pentium
To: [email-masked]
Reply-To: [email-masked]
Status: RO

Re: Your post on Linux.admin

I'm running Linux Slackware Pro on my Dell XPS P60. Installation was a 
bitch, but when I finally sorted that out it runs a treat.

Bryan D. Childs       : [email-masked]
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From: "Frank B. Brokken" <frank>
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In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken) writes:

   This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
   Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
   any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

   Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.

I have Linux running on a Gateway 2000 P5/90 PCI bus machine (90mhz Pentium).
The only problems I've encountered have had little to do with it being
a pentium. My two basic problems have been I have an ATI GX Mach 64 PCI
video board and my IDE hard disk has > 1024 cylinders. The video board
problem is temporarily solved with the *unaccelerated* Mach64 Xserver
on sunsite.unc.edu, and the hard disk problem was solved by reading
all the info on EIDE drives available on sunsite.unc.ede and
tsx-11.mit.edu. Otherwise I've had no problems getting linux up and
running on this beast. I only wish the Xfree folks would hurry up and
get an accelerated Mach64 X server!!! (please, pretty please :-)

John

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From [email-masked] Tue Sep 27 08:34:30 1994
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 00:33:46 -0700
From: James von Behren <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Status: RO

I have a gateway 2000 P5-60 (thier 60 Mhz Pentium) and Linux seems to 
work pretty well.  Admitedly, though I haven't been using Linux for very 
long and am still a bit of a novice.  Thus, I expect I haven't taxed the 
system quite yet.

From [email-masked] Tue Sep 27 22:41:19 1994
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 20:38 MET
From: [email-masked] (Bernd Wiegmann)
To: [email-masked] (Frank B. Brokken)
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Organization: home, sweet home...
Status: RO

Hi Frank,

: This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
: Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
: any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

I have a P-60 board with the mercury-3 chipset and have no problems. It runs
as stable as my old board used to run. But it is much faster. The NCR SCSI
chip is also no problem.

Be sure to get a board with revision 3 of the chipset. This version is more
bug-free than the older versions.

: [a lot of signature deleted]

You have a quite verbose signature.

        Bernd
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From: [email-masked] (Mr. J.P. Gregory)
Subject: keymap question
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:54:40 GMT

How do I change the default keymap at startup in Linux?

I tried to select the UK keymap in the Slackware setup but it wouldn't work,
so how do I do it from the prompt?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jason.

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