Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #141
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 09:13:30 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #141, Volume #2                Tue, 4 Oct 94 09:13:30 EDT

Contents:
  Wanted: Used or great deals on Routers (Tony Schwartz)
  Re: tar help (Viktor T. Toth)
  Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted (Randy Hootman)
  SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX? (Bernd Lehahn)
  Xwin Mail/news readers? (John Dee)
  Re: Lynx under Linux (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
  Re: Help INN on my Linux box! (Nathan Stratton)
  linux C++ class browser?? (Adrian Mancini)
  Re: Buslogic and > 1.1.46 kernels Be CAREFUL
  Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51 (Shaune Beattie)
  Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Carlos Dominguez)
  inetd & rpc.portmap (was Re: inetd seems to lock-up) (Bradley M. Kuhn)
  inetd: in.nnrpd takes up too much CPU...help please? (Bradley M. Kuhn)
  Re: Pentiums (Shaune Beattie)
  Installing Manpages (Paul E Rubin)
  Re: RPC Problems (xmeter too!) (Dustin Mollo)
  Re: Problem with floppy-umount (AlexR2D42)
  Re: /etc/issue (AlexR2D42)
  Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN) (Nick Hilliard)
  Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Michael Stroucken)
  Upgrading (updating) kernel? (00:Jason Multari)
  Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux (Spencer PriceNash)
  Re: PPP vs SLIP? (John Phillips)
  format problem and rawrite also (Laurent Chavey)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Tony Schwartz)
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,misc.forsale.computers.workstations,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Wanted: Used or great deals on Routers
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:44:55

I am seeking a hot deal on a router that can handle BGP4.  I am assuming 
something like a Cisco 2501.

I have cash in hand and am ready to buy.  Please email any opportunities or 
suggestions.

Tony Schwartz
Portland, OR

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Viktor T. Toth)
Subject: Re: tar help
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:21:53

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] () writes:

>I'm having trouble with tar.  When I try to us it, all I get is:
>
>tar: can't open /dev/rmt0 : No such device or address
>
>Why does it say this?  I looked for /dev/rmt0 and it's there.
>Thanks.

Do you actually have a tape device on your system? Or are you trying to 
(un)tar a disk file?

Just because the entry /dev/rmt0 exists, that doesn't mean that you actually 
have a real device behind it.

Viktor

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Randy Hootman)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:49:46 GMT

There is xspread for X and sc for tty. On most distributions.

Randy

: Hi all,

: I'm looking for a freeware spreadsheet which works with linux (and preferably
: can also be made to work on a HP 720)

: Does anyone know what software is available?

: Any hint would be good.

: Thanks a lot
: Greetings   Dolf Smits

: --
: [email-masked]            D.F. Smits

: Interduct
: Delft University Clean Technology Institute
: Rotterdamseweg 145
: 2628 AL  DELFT                        tel. (+31) 15 78 72 39
: The Netherlands                       fax. (+31) 15 78 66 82

:         Linux, The choice of a GNU generation
:                                             (Anonymous)
-- 

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
     "In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings,
      we pay ourselves the highest tribute." - Thurgood Marshall
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Randy Hootman                Randysoft Software             (408) 229-0119

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Bernd Lehahn)
Subject: SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:46:59 +0100
Reply-To: [email-masked]

Hi,

what does it need to use a HP II cx SCSI scanner from Linux?
If I would be able to use this thingy from Linux, I wont had to switch to
Windows all the time.

Thanks for any hints!

=========== Bernd Lehahn, Ebertstr.30, 52134 Herzogenrath, Germany =============
-    Tel:49-2407-59473, Fax:49-2407-8226, ADSP:[email-masked]      -
-    use/internet: [email-masked]          (...speaking just for myself)    -
- Wer selbst nichts erreicht hat, verweist oft auf die Erfolge seines "Volkes" -

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (John Dee)
Subject: Xwin Mail/news readers?
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:46:18 GMT

[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.help ]
[ Author was John Dee ([email-masked]) ]
[ Posted on Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:45:47 GMT ]

Anyone have any suggestions on mail readers or news readers for Xwindows 
under Linux? E-mail appreciated.

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Lynx under Linux
Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:35:56 GMT

Mubashir Cheema ([email-masked]) wrote:

: I have noticed that when I run Lynx under Linux all available
: options get highlighted instead of the ones I move my 
: cursor to. 

        It's a problem with the version of ncurses that lynx
is compiled with.  I haven't figured out exactly what to do, because
ncurses 1.8.5 breaks one curses application while ncurses 1.8.1 breaks
another.

        But.. there is a version of lynx statically compiled to
work properly available from dewdrop.water.ca.gov in /pub/Linux/Network

        We desperately need the termcap, terminfo, and ncurses
coordinated to be completely functional for all programs!

Ignorantly,

        -Sam Lantinga           ([email-masked])

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Nathan Stratton)
Subject: Re: Help INN on my Linux box!
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:59:11 GMT

I used the makehistory script it had no effic. How can I fix this problem?

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Jerry Ablan) writes:
>On Sat, 1 Oct 1994 19:34:13 GMT, Nathan Stratton spake thusly:
>: I am trying to set up my news on my linux box I had it working ok, but 
>: now is has stoped working. If I look in /usr/adm/syslog I can see this error:
>
>: Oct  1 14:26:55 NovaNet innd: /usr/lib/news/history cant dbminit ME No 
>: such file or directory
>
>: Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem, my news is backing up fast. 
>: If  you can help please send me mail as soon as possible. 
>: -- 
>: Nathan Stratton              CEO, NovaNet, Inc. On-Line Communication Services.
>
>Sure looks like your history file got kilt. Just re-build it with the
>mkhistory script.
>
>-- Jerry

-- 
Nathan Stratton         CEO, NovaNet, Inc. On-Line Communication Services.

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Adrian Mancini)
Subject: linux C++ class browser??
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:06:14 GMT

Hello,

        Anyone be so kind as to tell where I can get
a C++ class browser & a solid class hierarchy that
works under linux/XFree386???????

Thanx
-- 
==================================================
-  Adrian Mancini ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
==================================================
-  The worst fear is fear of a dream. ~~~~~~~~~~~~
==================================================

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] ()
Subject: Re: Buslogic and > 1.1.46 kernels Be CAREFUL
Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:11:42 GMT

John Spade ([email-masked]) wrote:
:       Post 1.1.46 kernels seem to override the > 1GB hard drive switch.
: If I run fdisk with 1.1.38 and install linux, it won't run after
: a few boots of 1.1.51.  And vice versa.  After messing up my linux
: boxes' hard drives several times, I traced it down to the changes
: around the 1.1.46 kernel. 
:       The partition tables seem to be incompatible.  I'm out of my
: league as far as the specifics, but I can say that it changes the
: cyl/hd/sec specifications.  So don't casually upgrade...  I had to
: reformat 2 systems...
:       The were good changes though, so I'm not complaining, just
: warning people.
: --
: [email-masked]  "Quality, Service, Price...
: [email-masked]                       Pick any two..."

I had the SAME problem, it comes from
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/buslogic.c

The translation mode is considered ENABLED by DEFAULT for >1Gb disks ?!!
If you are **NOT** using translation mode (a.k.a. DOS support for
>1Gb), that scews up the whole disk partition.

Solution:
Edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/buslogic.c, around line 960
inside function 'get_translation()' change
 return BIOS_TRANSLATION_BIG;
 with
 return BIOS_TRANSLATION_DEFAULT;

That will do.
Manuel J. Galan

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Shaune Beattie)
Subject: Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:37:17 GMT

Kees Lemmens ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Hi,

: Recently installed Linux 1.1.51. However, when I mount a DOS floppy
: and try to unmount it when finished, in about 50 % of the cases the
: unmount command crashes with a Segmentation Fault and exits.
: This leaves an /etc/mtab~ hanging around and corrupts the filesystem
: information:

: 'df' then yields an entry for /fd0 (my floppydrive) with the statistics
: of my Linux partition.

: A second mount and unmount (after removing the /etc/mtab~) often fixes 
: the problem.

: Anyone who experienced the same or anyone who knows how to avoid this ?

Same for me..
Though not 50%
Basically the *first* time you try to umount it produces a segmentation 
fault in _release_floppy. after that it works fine :-/ more a nuisance 
than anything else.

Shaune 

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Carlos Dominguez)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 21:38:21 -0400

Michael_Nelson ([email-masked]) wrote:

:       I think I'll wait awhile before attempting 3.1 again... :-(

I think I'll await for it to become part of a future slackware
distribution . 

I've worked too hard to get X up and running, and to futz with fvwm and 
its neat-o window sound event manager, to start from scratch all over again.

-- 
  __  __   __ | .__.  __. ::::  Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin  
 |    __| |   | |  | |__  ::::  [email-masked]
 |__ |__| |   | |__| .__| ::::  Basselope *nix systems
  ---------------------------   Internet services consulting is our forte

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Bradley M. Kuhn)
Subject: inetd & rpc.portmap (was Re: inetd seems to lock-up)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:52:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Steve Kneizys <[email-masked]> wrote:
>olav woelfelschneider ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: While trying to connect a linux box to the internet i got a strange
>: behaviour. The machine first accepts telnet or any other inetd 
>: initiated connection, while a few minutes later doing the same thing
>: will hang. Thus, trying to telnet into the box yields the
>: connected to message, but there is no prompt.
>: This happens with every connection which is handled by inetd,
>: like ftp, finger, etc...
>
>Another case of it!  I have been waiting for several weeks now for an
>answer on this one, but nobody has come up with anything.  At first
>I thought it was something I did wrong, but it does seem to be a
>problem with the code.  Where exactly, other than with inetd, I do not know.  
>
>I just put one of my boxes to 1.0.8 to clear this up, and the
>Pentium EISA/PCI with 2 Gig SCSI box is sitting in a corner waiting
>for this fix.  I have seen this bug as far back as 1.1.48, but I 
>cannot determine how far back it goes ... would try to find out if 
>a developer asked.
>
>Others have emailed me about it too, no solutions ... be sure 
>to post if you find one!
>

Alright.  I have it TOO.  I am using 1.0.9 from Slackware.  Does 1.0.8 solve
the problem (or not have it, rather)?  To think one version before would save
me these headaches!

I also have another problem.  inetd on a machine that has drives nfs mounted
from it, inetd seems to spawn extra rpc.portmaps, one after another until the
original one is killed.  is this a related problem, or something else?

-- 
 -- Bradley M. Kuhn
     EMAIL: [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked]

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Bradley M. Kuhn)
Subject: inetd: in.nnrpd takes up too much CPU...help please?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:57:07 GMT

For some reason, after many people have read news, the in.nnrpd process (i
assumed spawed by inetd) hangs and eats up lots of CPU time.  I assume that it
is supposed to die when the connections close and not start again until
another connection is made to port 119.  However, I assume that it is not
dying correctly, and thus keeps looking for a connection thus eating up CPU
time.  Anyone else concur/disagree/shed light on situation?

Does this problem have anything to do with the other bizzarre problems people
are talking about in inetd in kernel versions > 1.0.8?

Thank you for your help.

Please respond via email if possible; will post summary.

-- 
 -- Bradley M. Kuhn
     EMAIL: [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked]

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Shaune Beattie)
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:45:43 GMT

Frank B. Brokken ([email-masked]) wrote:

: This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
: Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
: any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?

: Please react either directly to me ([email-masked]) or to this newsgroup.

Works fine for me aswell..
Just wish an official pentium version of gcc would be made... as it is I 
would guess the 486-100 to be faster? Anyone confirm/deny this?
Tried the unofficial pentium gcc, but it didn't work for me.. 
mis-compiled :(

Shaune

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Paul E Rubin)
Subject: Installing Manpages
Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:34:05 GMT

  Hi. I've recently got a hold of some manpages for Xt functions to program
X-windows. However, I'm having a hard time installing therm..
I've edit MANPATH       a few times, but the change never takes place.
say the manpages are in the directory ~john/manpages. I've edit MANPATH as
setenv MANPATH /home/john/manpages ${MANPATH} in my .cshrc file. I've tryed
loging out and rebooting the machine, but somehow the new path doesn't get 
updated.

anyone have any idea why??

I have slackware 1.1.8

thanks

Paul

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Dustin Mollo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: RPC Problems (xmeter too!)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:47:34 GMT

Charles W. Binko ([email-masked]) wrote:

:       What is wrong?  I have rstatd running, do I need other rpc daemons as
: well?  The xmeter man page says it gets its info from rstat...doesn't mention any
: others.

Just out of curiosity, are all the other machines that you are monitoring
that work, are they Linux boxes??  I bet they aren't...  The version of
rstatd that we run here at my college (on Linux), don't support network
infomation.  I haven't not heard of one that does..  On Linux that is..  Our
HP9000 does however...  BTW, if there IS a rstatd that gives net traffic
under Linux, I would be interested in knowing where I can get it...

Thanks and Good Luck!  

-Dustin

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (AlexR2D42)
Subject: Re: Problem with floppy-umount
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 00:37:40 GMT

[email-masked] wrote:
: Frank Westheider         Linux Support Group Paderborn
: [email-masked]     [email-masked]
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

: Hi Folks !

: What about the kernel-bug with floppy umount ??
: Any suggestions ?

Which bug?

Best wishes,
Alex

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (AlexR2D42)
Subject: Re: /etc/issue
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 00:41:10 GMT

CVL staff member Nate Sammons ([email-masked]) wrote:
: I see there's and /etc/issue file in linux, but it doesn't seem to
: do what /etc/issue is supposed to do (get splatted up on screen
: BEFORE the login prompt on (at least) remote connections)

If I recall correctly, it is supposed to be /etc/issue.net for network
connection.

Best wishes,
Alex

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Nick Hilliard)
Subject: Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 18:21:32 GMT

Andrew Berkley ([email-masked]) wrote:
: Obviously, the only users that you would want to run SVGALIB programs
: are logged in at the console -- and that is nicely handled by SVGALIB
: (try running sasteroids from a telnet :).  But, since SVGALIB needs access
: to /dev/console (new versions) which is a link to a tty0-6, you need
: someway of letting it access them.  One solution is to make tty? world
: readable/writeable/etc, but that's just wrong...  The real solution, which
: most SVGALIB install programs do (witness zgv) is to install the program
: with owner _root_, and set the 'Run this program as owner' bit on the
: program.
: chmod a+s FileName

This is *NOT* a solution.  This is *DANGEROUS* and *STUPID*.

Please a) read some books about system administration and security, and b)
think twice about the logical outcome of this sort of 'advice' before
posting to the net.

Note: follow-ups redirected to c.o.l.misc.

Nick
-- 
Thought for the day:
"Don't worry about people stealing your ideas.  If your ideas are any
good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats."
                -- Howard Aiken

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Michael Stroucken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
Date: 2 Oct 1994 04:53:41 GMT

[commercial crap deleted]

What did this have to do with Linux?
Greetings,
Michael.

-- 
                               Wissen ist Macht.
                               Wir wissen nichts.
                               Macht nichts.
Michael Stroucken   [email-masked]   Mud+IRC: Stroucki

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (00:Jason Multari)
Subject: Upgrading (updating) kernel?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 19:14:34 GMT

I am curious about where to find information on upgrading the kernel. I am
using 1.1.18 right now, from the Slackware 2.0.0 release. Have yet to upgrade
the kernel, any info is much appreciated.

--
 Steven S Spiroff               Stuck in the slow lane of the Infobahn (harf!)
 [email-masked]
 Long Island, NY, USA

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Spencer PriceNash)
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux
Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:00:01 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
marshall giguere <[email-masked]> wrote:
>I'm setting up a Linux system and would like some recommendations
>about partitioning.  I plan to run with a X and a network in the future.
>
>1. Is it necessary to have both root and usr partition?
>
>2. What's the necessary size for a root partition.
>
>
>Currently I'm planning a layout something like this:
>
>Root: 35meg
>Swap: 16meg
>Usr: (the rest of the disk)

That's a teensy tiny root partition.

My Linux box looks like this (minus my SCO Xenix partition, which
Linux apparently doesn't recognize, and that's just fine):

Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hdb1             117992   85752    26341     77%   /
/dev/hdb3             280560  131331   135201     49%   /u
/dev/hda1              19444    5960    13484     31%   /dosc

di (not distributed with Linux) says this:

Mount             Kbytes     Used    Avail %used  Inodes    Used    Free %used
/                 117992    85752    26341  78%    29520    7545   21975  26%
/dosc              19444     5960    13484  31%        0       0       0   0%
/u                280560   131331   135201  52%    70280   15032   55248  21%

I put all the users on /u.

I wish my / partition were bigger, actually.  Yeah, I made it 115M,
but now I wish it were, say, 140M.  I have everything installed
except TeX and OO, plus a few things I found useful in the *nix
newsgroups.

Figure that whatever you install will be, say, 1.5M or 2M per disk you
install, if you're installing from disks.

Again, I think your choice of root partition size is by far too small.
-- 
Spencer PriceNash   [email-masked]   [email-masked]
Dan Quayle via anon ftp: Quotes at umcc.umich.edu in pub/users/quayle, GIFs
and sound files at vaxa.crc.mssm.edu in quayle/gif and quayle/sound.

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: PPP vs SLIP?
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 09:36:35 +0000

[email-masked] (MacGyver) writes:

>Currently, I'm happily churning away, using [C]SLIP on my machine.  Recently,
>someone told me that PPP is more efficient and much better than using
>SLIP.  Is this true?  

My IP provider has both PPP and [C]SLIP access, and I too have 
configured both.  Configuration of PPP was equally easy when I put 
it in, after having previously set up CSLIP.

As for performance, I have measured data transfer rates and found that 
for me, PPP runs from 0 to 2 percent slower than CSLIP, depending on 
the type of data that is being transferred.  You have to get the 
asyncmap right with PPP to prevent a hit of up to 12.5 percent in 
transfer rate.

The differences in performance and configuration seem to be too small 
to really matter.  I suggest that other criteria are more important for 
choosing between the protocols.

My IP provider prefers PPP, since the diagnostics are better than for 
CSLIP (they are much better).  So I shall stick with PPP.  In your own 
circumstances this may not mattter as much.

John
-- 
John Phillips

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Laurent Chavey)
Subject: format problem and rawrite also
Date: 4 Oct 1994 11:39:04 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: 
Summary: 
Expires: 
Sender: [email-masked]
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Keywords: 
Cc: 

i found my /bin directory as ?rwxx xxx  junk ...
I lost it on my drive partition hda1.
I have dos on hda4, and I am wondering how this appened.
Also, I can not format (in dos) sorry for that, but I am puzzled,
it does the format up to 100 % then give me a read error, and
abot,fail, retry.
Rawrite dows not work either, but I can make a boot floppy from
linux, or using norton disk doctor.
Can smoeone give me a hint why it would be my drive, if so,
why it does not format with dos format, or can not write with
rawrite, but works to make a boot disk from Linux.
Is it a virus, or hardware.
If it is a virus, is there some shareware on the net to help me detect it,
and cure.
thank you and sorry for the dos question, but I am at a dead end.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: formating problem, rawrite problem.
Summary: 
Expires: 
Sender: [email-masked]
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Keywords: 
Cc: 

i found my /bin directory as ?rwxx xxx  junk ...
I lost it on my drive partition hda1.
I have dos on hda4, and I am wondering how this appened.
Also, I can not format (in dos) sorry for that, but I am puzzled,
it does the format up to 100 % then give me a read error, and
abot,fail, retry.
Rawrite dows not work either, but I can make a boot floppy from
linux, or using norton disk doctor.
Can smoeone give me a hint why it would be my drive, if so,
why it does not format with dos format, or can not write with
rawrite, but works to make a boot disk from Linux.
Is it a virus, or hardware.
If it is a virus, is there some shareware on the net to help me detect it,
and cure.
thank you and sorry for the dos question, but I am at a dead end.

Subject: Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51
Summary: 
Expires: 
References: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Sender: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Keywords: 
Cc: 

------------------------------

** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [email-masked]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via:

    Internet: [email-masked]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    nic.funet.fi				pub/OS/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu				pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu				pub/Linux

End of Linux-Admin Digest
******************************