Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #144
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 20:16:03 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #144, Volume #2                Tue, 4 Oct 94 20:16:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Non-root can't start X (Dan Wold)
  Re: Good dirs to move to sep file systems? (David Fox)
  Re: <Q> Can Linux Mount a Mac Floppy (Myung Cho 40-242E)
  Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work? (Kevin Cummings)
  Re: /dev/audio: No such file or directory (Kevin Cummings)
  Re: packet size w/ uucp? (Kevin Cummings)
  Re: [Q] Commercial Software on Linux (Mark Johnson)
  Re: Modem Question .. (Super-User)
  Re: Modem Question .. (Super-User)
  Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Patrick J. Volkerding)
  Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Olli Vinberg)
  Re: SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX? (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: Slip autoanswer (Byron A Jeff)
  Modem Question .. (Tony_Teague)
  Re: PPP vs SLIP? (Glen Niebur)

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From: [email-masked] (Dan Wold)
Subject: Re: Non-root can't start X
Date: 3 Oct 1994 01:27:38 -0400

Thanks to all who replied with the solution to my problem. I just made
Xconfig accessible to my login and everything works fine.

-Dan
-- 
[email-masked]
Daniel Wold                             239 City Island Ave, Bronx, NY, 10464
finger [email-masked]
Sysop: WORLD CITIZEN BBS  718-885-2346  14.4  24 hrs  FREE  Fidonet  BahaiNet

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From: [email-masked] (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Good dirs to move to sep file systems?
Date: 03 Oct 1994 10:24:02 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Timothy Demarest) writes:

] What do you recommend for splitting across several file systems?  I dont
] want to move anything that I may need on the root partition in an emergency!

The first and most important thing to move is /home.
--
David Fox                                               xoF divaD
NYU Media Research Lab                     baL hcraeseR aideM UYN

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From: [email-masked] (Myung Cho 40-242E)
Subject: Re: <Q> Can Linux Mount a Mac Floppy
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:07:56 GMT

In article <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Steve Kneizys) writes:

   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.admin
   From: [email-masked] (Steve Kneizys)
   Date: 2 Oct 94 12:56:53 EST
   Organization: Ursinus College

   Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer) ([email-masked]) wrote:

   : Got some ASCII text files on my Powerbook... Would like to write them
   : to the PB floppy and then mount the floppy on my linux box and
   : read the ascii text (and do some other stuff).  I haven't seen this
   : in any FAQ or the The Linux Bible.   Any clues for the clueless ;-)

   Well, my solution is, instead of making Linux understand the Mac
   format why not make the Mac understand a format Linux does!  I have
   to exchange data between Mac, PC, VAX, Unix, and use FTP for most of
   it.  But when I do flopppy exchange, I use a DOS formatted floppy...
   the Dayna product DOSMOUNTER for Mac lets me mount Dos floppies on the
   Mac, write ascii files, then mount on Unix, etc.

   I heard a rumor there was a shareware program that mounted DOS disks
   on Macs, but never looked into it.  But if you want to go this roundabout
   way then I'd think some Mac folks could help more than I have.

   Good luck!

   Steve... 

Better yet, I use suntar 2.0, a macintosh freeware that reads and writes unix tar format.
This way you could tar up all the text right to the floppy on the mac and untar it on the
Linux box. No need to go through an intermediate PC format. 

You can get suntar 2.0 from usual mac archive sites.

mcho@mhny                       Salomon Brothers Inc.

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Crossposted-To: utah.linux
From: [email-masked] (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten ftape to work?
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:22:08 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (Timothy Murphy) writes:
> [email-masked] (Kevin Cummings) writes:
> 
> >Yes, FTAPE works, when it is configured and installed correctly.
> 
> This is definitely NOT true, in my experience.
> Most if not all earlier versions of ftape did not work,
> however you configured them.

I've been running an FTAPE since Bas took over maintaining it.
It's worked for me since then (386DX-25, Linux 0.99p12 or so).

> To get ftape to work, you must upgrade to Linux 1.1.50.
> You must then get the latest version of ftape, ftape-1.13b,
> and apply ftape-irq-dma.patch to it,
> available from sunsite.unc.edu 
> (I think in pub/Linux/kernel/tapes).
> 
> > I seem to
> >remember that if you upgrade your kernel, you need to rebuild FTAPE.
> 
> If you haven't done it, how can you tell people it works?

I did it between 0.99p12, 0.99p15, and 1.0.0 (which I've been running
for the better part of the last year).  If you can remeber EVERYTHING
you've done in the last year, you have a better memory than me!

-- 
Kevin J. Cummings                       Peritus Software Services, Inc.
[email-masked]        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: /dev/audio: No such file or directory
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:28:46 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]> writes:
> Could you tell what version of kernel and detailed steps to
> install the driver? I tried once, but when compiling the driver
> programs, it complained one variable undefined. I assigned it a
> "reasonable" number and it compiled, but i only hear some noise
> when i do "cat somefile.au > /dev/audio".

The perhaps you should have assigned it an "unreasonable" number?   B^)

I seem to remember that early version of the audio driver had some context
switching problems.  If I tried that under X-windows, output came out in
"chunks" with spaces between them.  If I left X and tried it again under
straight Linux, it came out better (but on my PC speaker, the quality
was terrible, but recognizable).  Since the documentation said the quality would
be terrible on my PC speaker, I didn't worry about it.  I've never had the time
(or disk space to go back for a more up-to-date version, sorry.  So I can't tell
you when (or if) they've fixed that problem.  One of these days I'll be buying a
SoundBlaster-16-ASP.  I'll probably retry it again then.

-- 
Kevin J. Cummings                       Peritus Software Services, Inc.
[email-masked]        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: packet size w/ uucp?
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 15:35:16 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, [email-masked] (John Dee) writes:
> Is there a way to increase packet size with UUCP to get a better transfer 
> rate?

Yes, change the protocol you are using.  "G" protocol is limited to 64 byte
packets, but someone wrote up a "g" protocol which supports larger packet
sizes (or do I have them backwards?).  BOTH ends of your UUCP connection must
support it.  Login to your UUCP host by hand and check out the protocols it allows.
Or increase your debugging output for one call and look in the log files for it.
Then get some documentation on UUCP that describes the various protocols, and see
what your options are.  (You could always get a faster modem, but that is probably
not a useful answer B^).

-- 
Kevin J. Cummings                       Peritus Software Services, Inc.
[email-masked]        [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Mark Johnson)
Subject: Re: [Q] Commercial Software on Linux
Date: 4 Oct 1994 13:06:47 -0300

In article <[email-masked]>,
Ahmad Al-rasheedan <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Jan Mario Stankovsky ([email-masked]) wrote:
>: Is there a list of commercial software(i.e. FrameMaker, Smalltalk, a.s.o.)
>: available for Linux? Does anybody knows any details if commercial SW will be
>: available for Linux someday ?
Try:
http://www.linux.org.uk/LxCommercial.html Fri Sep 30 12:58:29 1994
Linux Commercial Software Index

Mark Johnson
[email-masked]

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From: root@andante (Super-User)
Subject: Re: Modem Question ..
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:28:41 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Tony_Teague <[email-masked]> wrote:
>hi,
> I want to set up my modem than is connected to my linux box to receive
>incoming calls .. Can anyone tell me how to set it up or where I can get the
>information from ..
>
> tony
>

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From: root@andante (Super-User)
Subject: Re: Modem Question ..
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:28:53 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Tony_Teague <[email-masked]> wrote:
>hi,
> I want to set up my modem than is connected to my linux box to receive
>incoming calls .. Can anyone tell me how to set it up or where I can get the
>information from ..
>
> tony
>

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From: [email-masked] (Patrick J. Volkerding)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:00:30 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,
Byron Faber <[email-masked]> wrote:
>[email-masked] (Carlos Dominguez) writes:
>
>>Will fvwm and its modules work in Xfree3.11? 
>
>yes, if you recompile it.  (make sure you recompile libXpm-3.4c as  well.)
>The reson being they bumped up the major version #'s on the X libraries
>

libXpm-3.4c _seemed_ to compile fine under XFree86 3.1, but any apps 
linked with the resulting shared library seg fault when executed.  The 
static version of libXpm works, though.  (Mitch - are you planning to 
look at this?)

Pat

... and after that, we can try to figure out XView. 8^O

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From: [email-masked] (Olli Vinberg)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: 4 Oct 1994 19:25:11 +0200
Reply-To: Olli Vinberg <[email-masked]>

In article <[email-masked]>,
Carlos Dominguez <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Michael_Nelson ([email-masked]) wrote:
>
>:      I think I'll wait awhile before attempting 3.1 again... :-(
>
>I think I'll await for it to become part of a future slackware
>distribution . 
>
>I've worked too hard to get X up and running, and to futz with fvwm and 
>its neat-o window sound event manager, to start from scratch all over again.

If you have a card that is supported for 16bpp oar 32bpp and enough
video-memory, then go for it! (I have a cheap cirrus 5428-card and 1M of
memory on it, so I can only have 800x600 resolution with 16bit colour,
but I use it anyway)

And the doom-mode is good too :)

But if your card is not one of the supported cards or if you are not
interested in TruoColor, etc. and use X mainly for xterms, stick with
2.11.

-- 
=======================================================================
Olli Vinberg                \  Our OS who art in CPU, UNIX be thy name.
[email-masked]        \  Thy programs run, thy syscalls done,
http://www.helsinki.fi/~vinberg \  in kernel as it is in user!

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX?
Date: 1 Oct 1994 13:01:56 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>, Bernd Lehahn <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>what does it need to use a HP II cx SCSI scanner from Linux?
>If I would be able to use this thingy from Linux, I wont had to switch to
>Windows all the time.

You're out of luck. No one has been successful in getting enough information
from HP (or really any other flatbed scanner manufacturer except for maybe
EPSON) to develop a scanner driver. Take a read of the Scanner Info Sheet
below.

BAJ

===============================================================================
LINUX SCANNER INFO SHEET (Last updated October 1, 1994)

[This is an editorial comment. I'll have a scattering of these in the document.
These are my own personal comments - BAJ ]

1.0 INTRODUCTION
================
Scanner drivers for Linux seem to be few and far between. In addition
documentation for the software is non existant. This document attemps to 
describe the available information about scanners for Linux and propose some 
directions for future development.

The current editor of this document is Byron A. Jeff. I can be reached at
[email-masked].

1.1 The misconception of TWAIN compliancy
=========================================
One of the comments I often see is "If we write a TWAIN driver then all
scanners will work..." Unfortunately this is an incorrect assertion. TWAIN
is a standard that the scanner manufacurers came up with to provide a
common, standard interface between their scanners and the DOS/Windows
applications that use them. Quick Picture:

###################-----------------------------------------
# DOS/WINDOWS APP #
# PhotoShop or    # This is the application. it can function
# PhotoStylers or # with different manufacturers scanners
# OCR.            # because of the TWAIN interface on the
#-----------------# bottom edge.
# TWAIN interface #
# Application     #
# Side            #
###################-----------------------------------------
# TWAIN interface # This is the software driver that comes
# Driver Side     # with the scanner. It has a TWAIN interface
#-----------------# on the top end so that it can mate with
# Hardware Driver # different applications. Each hardware driver is different.
###################-----------------------------------------
# Scanner Card    #
################### This is the scanner hardware.
#    Scanner      #
###################

The problem for us Linux folks is twofold:

1) We really don't have any DOS/Windows applications we can run. 
2) For each scanner a different Hardware Driver must be written
   and the hard specifications for that scanner must be available to
   accomplish this task.
  
So TWAIN doesn't buy us anything in terms of getting a single driver to
run all scanners.

Anyway TWAIN is just a hack that the Unix/Linux driver interface already
solves. So there's no joy here.

2.0 CURRENTLY AVAILABLE
=============================
[ Instead of writing about currently available stuff I'll just put the
post where I've seen it. If anyone has updated information, let me know.]

2.1 GS4500 Scanner

>From [email-masked] Sun Dec 12 17:33:43 EST 1993
From: [email-masked] (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [Q] Scanner software ?
Date: 9 Dec 1993 05:34:36 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

There is a driver for scanners built on the GS4500 chip-set.. It can be
found at:

<file://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/kernel/misc-patches/scanner-1.0.tar.gz>

Here is the lsm:

Begin2
Title        = Scanner driver for GS4500 and lookalikes
Version      = 1.0
Desc1        = Provides support for using GS4500 class hand
Desc2        = scanners with Linux.
Author       = Richard Lyons
AuthorEmail  = [email-masked]
Maintainer   = Richard Lyons
MaintEmail   = [email-masked]
Site1        =
Path1        =
File1        = scanner-1.0.tar.gz
FileSize1    = 4426
Required1    = GS4500 B&W hand scanner or workalike.
CopyPolicy1  = Freely distributable with acknowledgement of author.
Keywords     = scanner GS4500
Comment1     = Suggestions welcome.  Support for other scanners
Comment2     = particularly welcome.
Entered      = 25OCT93
EnteredBy    = Richard Lyons
CheckedEmail = [email-masked]
End

[ I need to know exactly the brand names of scanners that work with this 
driver. Also I need to know the type (flattop/handheld), resolution, speed,
and #of colors for each. One section of this will have a list of available
scanners. Prices and places selling them might also be useful. ]

2.2 Mustek Scanners

Subject: ANNOUNCE: scan-driver-0.1.4 available! 

Hi Linuxers!

The subject says it all:

        scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz is available!

[ I just checked sunsite (6/25/94) and it's up to 0.1.8. 
  All drivers can be found in /pub/Linux/kernel/patches/scanner ]

It's a Linux device driver for Mustek M-105 handheld halftone scanners
and lookalikes. Included in the package is a simple (S)VGAlib-based demo
and a 5-line-script to create a portable bitmap file from the scanned
image. I hope you enjoy it!

Here is the LSM entry:

Begin2
Title        = M105 handheld scanner driver
Version      = 0.1.4
Desc1        = Character device driver for M105 handheld scanner
Desc2        = and lookalikes. 
Author       = Thomas Faehnle
AuthorEmail  = [email-masked]
Maintainer   = Thomas Faehnle
MaintEmail   = [email-masked]
Site1        = oracle.rz.uni-ulm.de
Path1        = /pub/linux/ulm
File1        = scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz
FileSize1    = 10378
Site2        = sunsite.unc.edu
Path2        = /pub/Linux/Incoming
File2        = scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz
FileSize2    = 10378
Site3        = tsx-11.mit.edu
Path3        = /pub/linux/ALPHA/scanner
File3        = scan-driver-0.1.4.tar.gz
FileSize3    = 10378
Required1    = M105 scanner or clone with GI1904 interface
CopyPolicy1  = GPL
Keywords     = M105 scanner device driver GI1904 interface 
RelFiles2    = scandemo -- a (S)VGAlib-based demo
RelFiles3    = scan.sh -- script to scan into a pbm file
Entered      = 11.03.1994
EnteredBy    = Thomas Faehnle
CheckedEmail = [email-masked]
End

2.3 AC4096 0.1 - a scanner driver for the A4 Tech AC4096 color scanner 

>From [email-masked] Thu Aug  4 20:22:35 EDT 1994
Article: 2608 of comp.os.linux.announce
From: Michael Beck <[email-masked]>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Subject: scanner driver for the A4 Tech AC 4096
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: 30 Jul 1994 02:07:19 +0300
Organization: ?
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Sender: [email-masked]
Approved: [email-masked] (Lars Wirzenius)
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: kruuna.helsinki.fi
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: scanner, driver

AC4096 0.1 - a scanner driver for the A4 Tech AC4096 color scanner 

This is the 1st release of a scanner driver for the A4 Tech AC4096
scanner. It's now avaible at

ftp.informatik.hu-berlin.de  pub/os/linux/hu-contrib/ac4096.tgz

This driver is compatible with the logi32 and m105 scanner drivers,
ie it uses the same ioctl interface.

It is accompanied by a small demo program called gifscan which will
enable you to save your scannings in the popular gif-format.

If you find any bugs in there, please report them to me.

Here is the lsm file

Begin2
Title        =Driver for the A4 Tech handheld color scanner AC4096
Version      =0.1
Desc1        =DMA driven scanner driver, supports true color and
Desc2        =emulated grey and mono modes
Author       =Michael Beck
AuthorEmail  =[email-masked]
Maintainer   =Michael Beck
MaintEmail   =[email-masked]
Site1        =ftp.informatik.hu-berlin.de
Path1        =pub/os/linux/hu-contrib/
File1        =ac4096.tgz
FileSize1    =26653
Required1    =modutils, A4 Tech AC4096 scanner
CopyPolicy1  =GNU copyleft
Keywords     =scanner AC4096
Comment1     =compatible with the logi32 and m105 scanner drivers
Comment2     =
EnteredBy    =Michael Beck
End

-- 
  Michael Beck               [email-masked]

3.0 CURRENT DEVELOPMENT
===================
[Again for now I'll just copy the posts I've seen. This is primarily Dr.
G.W. Wettstein's work. He posted something recently about continuing 
development on SCSI scanners. Hope to see something concrete soon. 
(Sept 19, 1994)]

Article: 2674 of comp.os.linux.development
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 09:25:07 CST
From: Greg Wettstein 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Scaner ?

I am embroiled in the middle of such a project right now.  My current
work is to develop an image processing/storage system for our corporate
Linux network.  I vended a Fujitsu scanner for this project and it is
sitting at home right now, connected to my Linux box there.

The Fujitsu scanner conforms to the SCSI-2 standard for scanners.  I
bought the technical documentation for it and it too is sitting at
home.  I currently have the basics of a driver for it built on top
of 0.99.13.  The driver currently only implements some selected ioctl's
and the basic framework for read etc.  It is not currently capable
of really scanning a document.  Finishing this is on an absolutely
high priority so the next month or so should bring this to fruition.

I would like to donate the driver back to the Linus for inclusion into
the official kernel sources.  I do not know how much appetite there is
for this type of thing but rumor has it that scanners are not well
supported (at least SCSI-2) in the desktop UNIX market.  Perhaps Linux
can be a leader there as well.

I am not sure what type of interface that the HP machine uses.  We
considered vending one of their scanners but the technical support people
were a little bit baucky about giving out interface and programming
details.  We chose the Fujitsu because it was one of the few that
seemed to support SCSI-2.

I will let everyone know when the driver is capable of doing things more
intelligent that it does now.  I would be interested in hearing from
other's who have similar interests or projects in progress.  E-mail
to the address in my .sig is probably preferable to referring to the
e-mail address in the newspost.  This machine is only used for reading
news.

As always,
Dr. G.W. Wettstein           Oncology Research Div. Computing Facility
Roger Maris Cancer Center    UUCP:  uunet!plains!wind!greg
Fargo, ND  58122             INTERNET: [email-masked]
Phone: 701-234-2833
============================================

4.0 POSSIBLE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT

4.1 Epson Scanners
[ OK this is my own personal baby. I don't have time to work on it now.
  with the permission of the author and a hookup with me maybe someone
  else can pick up the ball. ]

Terry Gliedt has written a scanner driver for the Epson series of scanners.
While the code is specifically targeted for the 300C it'll likely work
with the other models (600C and 800C). But more importantly Epson has the 
programming specs for the devices available. Here is the info:

References:
  "Epson Color-Monochrome Image Scanners ES-300C Programmers Guide"
  (X-ES300C-P) available from Epson at 1-800-922-8911 for $7.50.

I have the code. It was written for the NeXT. I'm not sure about distribution
and one of the copyrights specifically states that it can't be modified
without the consent of the author. 

However if it can be ported then we'll have another class of pretty good 
scanners to work with.

[Update: One day I finally got around to playing with it. The code compiled
         with a little massaging. But of course it's looking for the 
         underlaying driver. I still have plans to purchase a 600C and write
         the driver but it'll be fall at the earilest. ]

4.2 Desperate? Internetworking with DOS machines.
=======================================

Another faster way of getting a scanner working is to use the scanner software
in the native DOS environment and then transfer images to the Linux box.
For example I have access to a BJ10 color scanner/printer that I can't
even explain what I want to do to their tech folks much less get technical 
specs.  However they do have a test program than scans in an image. It is 
involked from the DOS command line. So a possible scenario might be:

1) Drop the scanner and ethernet card in a second machine running DOS.
2) Get a copy of Wattcp and NFS along with a packet driver and PKTMUX. 
   These are all freeware/shareware products available via ftp.
3) Set up the DOS box with the software so that you can mount Linux directories
   and so that the Linux box can telnet to the Linux box (using telnetd, a 
   program in the Wattcp package on the DOS box.)
4) Ok. Now the linux box can send commands to the dos box using telnet.
   The linux box tells the dos box to do a scan. The destination for
   the scan file will be a file on the NFS drive. So once the scan is complete
   the scanned image is sitting on the Linux box ready to be processed.

This can work for any scanner that has a DOS scanner command. It may be
possible to write an app for windows - but I don't know Windows.

[  Send me your suggestions and information. Send commentary. Send
error corrections. Send anything about scanners. Later, BAJ]
-- 
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Slip autoanswer
Date: 1 Oct 1994 13:14:04 GMT

In article <[email-masked]>,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
-
->    How do I get my modem to autoanswer the phone when it detects a ring ??
-
-At the risk of getting more abuse, I answered a similar question
-the other day. My way is simply to turn on Auto Answer on the modem.
-(Usually DIP switch 5)
-
-When I posted this the other day, I got a followup from someone saying
-that was no good, because he didn't want the modem to answer the phone
-when Linux was crashed. I don't understand. I have a dialup system
-here in the office which I have set up as a Slip server. The modem
-is set to Auto Answer, and I don't have any problems. 

-
-Perhaps the person who replied before would care to expand his comments...

I thought he was clear the first time. When the modem is set to autoanswer
it will answer the phone even if the system connected to the modem is
down.

The alternative is to leave the modem as is and run a getty that will
tell the modem to answer when the getty sees the 'RING' string that the
modem sends whenever the phone rings. That way if the system (and obviously
the getty) is down then the phone will just ring off the hook instead of
the modem picking up the phone, negotiating the link with the other modem
and then - nothing - because the machine the modem is connected to is down.

It's really just a matter of taste. I prefer the system answering the phone
because the modem connecting implies to me that I'm going to get a connection.
With the system controlling the answer process the modems will never connect
if the system is down.

Clear?

BAJ
-- 
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Tony_Teague)
Subject: Modem Question ..
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:37:03 GMT

hi, 
  I want to set up my modem than is connected to my linux box to receive 
incoming calls .. Can anyone tell me how to set it up or where I can get the
information from .. 
 
                                                             tony 

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Glen Niebur)
Subject: Re: PPP vs SLIP?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:15:43 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] (Mike Battersby) writes:

>PPP:   Because you can. Because you need to send something other than
>       IP over the link.  Because it's more convenient.

Another reason for using PPP is because you CAN set an asyncmap to escape
control characters.  If you have to go through a terminal server on the
way to your PPP server, you will want to escape some extra control characters
like escape if you go through a telnet.  I don't _think_ this can be done
with SLIP, but if it can, i would be happy if someone would correct me (and
tell me how).

Glen

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