Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #145
From: Digestifier <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 02:13:25 EDT

Linux-Admin Digest #145, Volume #2                Wed, 5 Oct 94 02:13:25 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted (Big Thunder Rumblefish)
  Modem 14400 and uugetty (Peter Berger)
  Linux as KingGod NFS Server to DOS Slaves (Peter Berger)
  HELP!!!  Error during bootstrapping.. (Peter Berger)
  where can i find biffd? (Peter Berger)
  Re: Running Dosemu (Uwe Bonnes)
  /etc/issue (Riku Saikkonen)
  Re: Removable Hard Disk Support ([email-masked])
  Problem with floppy-umount ([email-masked])
  Re: XFree86 3.x (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
  Re: Linux Terminal Server from floppy? (Phil Hughes)
  Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Dr. Raimund K. Ege)
  shutdown without root access (Van Zandt)
  Good dirs to move to sep file systems? (Timothy Demarest)
  Re: PROBLEM: Sun locks up mounting Linux NFS drive (Sergei Fishel)
  identify in inetd.conf (goran kezunovic)
  Re: LILO and BT445s (John D. Mitchell)
  Tcsh and Linux... how does it work? (Peter Walker)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Big Thunder Rumblefish)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted
Date: 3 Oct 1994 08:32:27 -0400

In article <[email-masked]>,
Dolf Smits <[email-masked]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for a freeware spreadsheet which works with linux (and preferably
>can also be made to work on a HP 720)
>
>Does anyone know what software is available?
>
>Any hint would be good.
>
>Thanks a lot
>Greetings   Dolf Smits
>
Well, Linux comes with sc and xspread, a pair of Lotus 1-2-3 clones. Don't
know if they'll work on a HP 720, but I absolutely love 'em.

|=======================================================================|
|      Kris Zoerhoff     |  [email-masked]          |   Encounters    |
|                        |  [email-masked]     |      BBS        |
|  "The Lunatic Magnet"  |  [email-masked]  | (906)482-6248   |
|=======================================================================|
|        My World Wide Web homepage:  http://www.grfn.org/~dust         |
|=======================================================================|
| "You just leave me nailed here, hanging like Jesus on this cross" NIN |
|=======================================================================|

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 13:25:00 +0100
From: [email-masked] (Peter Berger)
Subject: Modem 14400 and uugetty

[email-masked] (Gert Doering) wrote:

  > [...]
  > First of all you should configure your modem that it returns
  > the DTE speed not the DCE speed in the CONNECT <speed> string.

 >>Just curious. Ist there any special reason for this?

 > If the getty does auto-bauding (switches its baud rate to the string
 > returned by the modem), it's necessary -- but I know no getty that does it
 > all the time (mgetty can do it with the "-a" option).

I understand that it isn't necessary to change my - I think so - well done
modem settings (I mean the settings in VRAM). Got also e-mail leading to the
same result (thx, Cameron).

Hm. Brings up the question if there's some reason left, to have such things
like autobauding?? As I see, it just serves to confuse people..

 > [...]
 > [email-masked]
 > fax: +49-89-3243328

BTW: Does greenie have ISDN? :)

greetz to Munich and
bye,
    Peter

e-mail: [email-masked]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 18:37:01 +0100
From: [email-masked] (Peter Berger)
Subject: Linux as KingGod NFS Server to DOS Slaves

Kevin Martinez <[email-masked]> wrote:

 > I am successfully using the Tsoft NFS client software. It is available with
 > support for several TCP/IP stacks. It can be found at various MS-DOS archive
 > sites. A new version was just announced in the comp.protocols.nfs newsgroup.

Well, I use this one, too. For now just for files of the filebase of my
fidonode.. But to use that seriously there should be consistent dates and times
of the files. Did you solve that?

bye,
    Peter

e-mail: [email-masked]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:08:02 +0100
From: [email-masked] (Peter Berger)
Subject: HELP!!!  Error during bootstrapping..

h9308386@hkusub (Patricia Arquette) wrote:

 >  cure this problem??  I just need to change back the files
 >  but the major problem is I can't even login the machine..
 >  Can anybody help??

Take the disk(s?, you did not mention which release you did install), well,
take them, boot, mount your root partition and fix it..

Good luck and
bye,
    Peter

e-mail: [email-masked]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:24:03 +0100
From: [email-masked] (Peter Berger)
Subject: where can i find biffd?

[email-masked] wrote:

 > does anyone know where i can find a copy of biffd?  it didn't come
 > with Slackware 1.0.9.

I think I've seen one in NetKit-B-* (look or sunsite or better a mirror..).

bye,
    Peter

e-mail: [email-masked]

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Uwe Bonnes)
Subject: Re: Running Dosemu
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 20:07:22 GMT

Douglas Rankin ([email-masked]) wrote:
>  I am trying to get the Dosemu0.52 running on my system. Everytime I type
> dos -A it say no errors and the gets a segmentation fault. Any one know why this is happening.
>  I am using linux 1.1.51 a 486  dx50 w 16mb RAM and a ultra/vantage video card
> with 1 meg of memory. any help would be appeciated?? Respond here or e-mail
> me at [email-masked]. The addrees on ths message will not work.
> Thanks for any help!!!

For Dosemu0.52 stick with the old kernel or get a pre53-dosemu for a recent
kernel from tsx-11.mit.edu:pub/linux/ALPHA/dosemu/private/devel. Attention:
private is not readable!

-- 
Uwe Bonnes  [email-masked]

------------------------------

Subject: /etc/issue
From: [email-masked] (Riku Saikkonen)
Date: Tue,  4 Oct 94 19:24:00 +0200

>do what /etc/issue is supposed to do (get splatted up on screen
>BEFORE the login prompt on (at least) remote connections)

/etc/issue.net is used for remote connections.

-=- Rjs -=- [email-masked] - IRC: Rjs
"From cavern pale the moist moon eyes / the white mists that from earth
arise / to hide the morrow's sun and drip / all the grey day from each
twig's tip." - J. R. R. Tolkien

------------------------------

From: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Removable Hard Disk Support
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 1994 12:48:00 +0200

[email-masked] meinte am 30.09.94
zum Thema "Removable Hard Disk Support":

> What types of removable hard disks are supported under Linux?
> E.g.  Iomega 105/150 MB models
>       SyQuest 44/88/105/200/270 MB models
>       Bernoulli Box 35/65/90/105/150 MB models
> (This is pretty much all I've heard of.)

All types of SCSI-removable-disks are supported, they are recognized as
hard-drives (removable) and must be mounted/umounted like all disks/ 
partitions.

>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> Feksa

Ciao
  Higgins

--
You can escape the gates of hell, say DOG and WINDOG,

         USE LINUX   :-)     !
## CrossPoint v3.0 ##

------------------------------

From: [email-masked]
Subject: Problem with floppy-umount
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 1994 12:49:00 +0200

Frank Westheider         Linux Support Group Paderborn
[email-masked]     [email-masked]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Folks !

What about the kernel-bug with floppy umount ??
Any suggestions ?

Ciao
  Higgins

--
You can escape the gates of hell, say DOG and WINDOG,

         USE LINUX   :-)     !
## CrossPoint v3.0 ##

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (FORSEILLES STEPHAN)
Subject: Re: XFree86 3.x
Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:10:12 GMT

jon m ([email-masked]) wrote:

: you probably mean an "official" release.  yes, 3.0's beta. 3.1 will
: be the "real" thing.

: you have XFree 2.1.1.  i promise, there's no big difference.  the biggest
: difference to me will be LBX, which means i can run stuff at a pretty
: good speed via a PPP modem link.  

: actually, there's no noticible difference at all, 'cept it's less
: flexible (no linkkit, so i can't get a smaller binary. )

        And that it supports S3/964 chipsets.

++=============================================================++
||     Forseilles Stephan     ||    [email-masked]         ||
||     Av. FRISSEN 1/14       || ------------------------------||
||     1160 Bruxelles         ||    Fido: 2:291/705.3503       ||
||     BELGIUM                ||    Phone: +32 2 675-61-09     ||
||-------------------------------------------------------------||
|| Home Page at   http://rcibm.ulb.ac.be:8000/~sforseil        ||
||-------------------------------------------------------------||
||  Anarchy is not disorder. Anarchy is the absence of orders. ||
++=============================================================++

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Linux Terminal Server from floppy?
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:55:10 GMT

As for a serial board, you might want to try the Cyclades.  It has RISC
processors on it.  They make an 8-port and a 16-port.  There is an article
abour the driver in Linux Journal #5.  You can contact Cyclades at
[email-masked].
-- 
Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
usually [email-masked], sometimes [email-masked]

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Dr. Raimund K. Ege)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: 4 Oct 1994 19:47:56 GMT

the Linux binary distribution seems to contain LBX support,
but there is little (may I say no) documentation on how to
get it started. Anyway, ...

My Linux box runs X11R6 now, and I would like to start an
xterm on the Sun that it is connected to via CSLIP.

I tried:        rstart sun-hostname xterm
which complained that rstartd does not exist.
I interpret that to mean that "rstartd" does
not exist on the Sun (of course).

So the question is:
where can I get the necessary binaries and setup files
for SunOS 4.1.3 or Solaris 2.3 ?

Any help is appreciated.

BTW: XFree86 3.1 and XFree 2.1 co-exist without trouble
     on my machine. Here is a snapshot of the ld situation:

ldd `which xterm`
        libXaw.so.6 (DLL Jump 6.0) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6.0
        libXt.so.6 (DLL Jump 6.0) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0
        libX11.so.6 (DLL Jump 6.0) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.0
        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) => /lib/libc.so.4.5.26
ldd `which fvwm`
        libXpm.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.3) => /usr/X11/lib/libXpm.so.3.3.0
        libXt.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.3.1.0
        libX11.so.3 (DLL Jump 3.1) => /usr/X11/lib/libX11.so.3.1.0
        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libc.so.4.5.26

-- 
Raimund K. Ege                             School of Computer Science
                                             Florida Int'l University
[email-masked]           (305) 348-3381              University Park
[email-masked]     FAX (305) 348-3549              Miami, FL 33199

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Van Zandt)
Subject: shutdown without root access
Date: 4 Oct 1994 15:43:55 GMT

I am trying to set up my system so that others in my family can start
and stop it without root privileges.  The /etc/passwd I inherited from
the Slackware system installation included:

   sync::5:0:sync:/sbin:/bin/sync
   shutdown:*:6:0:shutdown:/sbin:/sbin/shutdown
   halt:*:7:0:halt:/sbin:/sbin/halt

I suppose I should use shutdown to bring the system down, since it calls
halt.  When I tried logging in as 'shutdown', I was asked for a password
and of course nothing was accepted.  I removed the '*' from the entry in
/etc/passwd (so no password was needed), then got the message:

   shutdown: must be root.

Finally I changed '6' to '0' (so shutdown had the same userid as root),
and got a usage message:

   Usage:    shutdown [-krhnf] time [warning message]
                     -k:      don't really shutdown, only warn.
                     -r:      reboot after shutdown.
                     -h:      halt after shutdown.
                     -n:      don't sync before reboot or halt.
                     -f:      do a 'fast' reboot.
                     -c:      cancel a running shutdown.
                     -t secs: delay between warning and kill signal.
 
I then tried using the entry for halt.  When I removed the '*' from its
entry in /etc/passwd and tried logging in as 'halt', I got the message:

   -halt: can't idle init

Finally, I put this into /etc/inittab:

   # What to do at the "Three Finger Salute".
   ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -h now

This means I can't trigger a reboot from the keyboard - I have to
actually press the reset button.  No big deal.

My instructions to shut down the system are:
        1.  logout
        2.  press cntl-alt-del.

My questions for the net:
        Can you really run shutdown as a login shell?
        When would you log in as 'halt'?
        When would you log in as 'sync'?
        Is my method safe?  (filesystem damage, security, etc.)
        Is there a better way?

                        - Jim Van Zandt <[email-masked]>

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Timothy Demarest)
Subject: Good dirs to move to sep file systems?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 02:54:34 GMT

I just added 2 more drives to our linux system, and am looking
to split the system among several file systems.  Right now, only
swap is on its own partition.

What do you recommend for splitting across several file systems?  I dont
want to move anything that I may need on the root partition in an emergency!

Thanks.

--
Timothy Demarest   | Radiation Effects Research Foundation| WWW: http://
[email-masked]| Research Information Center          | aqua.rerf.or.jp/
CIS: 100212,562    | 5-2 Hijiyama Park, Minami-ku         | .Inside/demarest/
                   | Hiroshima 732 Japan                  | NewChiba.html

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (Sergei Fishel)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Sun locks up mounting Linux NFS drive
Date: 3 Oct 1994 01:39:53 GMT

May be this will be helpful:

Size of NFS package should be 1024 only. As I know default is 8K for
SUN and other UNIXes. Unfortunately, I do not have demand to connect SUN 
to Linux, so I have not tried it. But MS-DOS NFS client (B&W) will give
up if pack. size is more than 1024.

Regards

Sergei

Nicolas BOUGUES ([email-masked]) wrote:
: James Knowles ([email-masked]) a ecrit:

: : Though I have many years under my belt in programming and PC hardware,
: : I'm a newbie on the subject of system administration. Bear with me:

: : We have a strange problem. We've got a number of Linux machines here at 
: : work mostly acting as clients to a Sun and HP 9000, on which we do
: : our development work.  I have set up NFS mounts between the Linux
: : machines, which work wonderfully. When we try to mount one of these 
: : Linux-based NFS directories on the Sun, the Sun complains heavily,
: : and once locked up so it had to be rebooted.  What's going on here?

: : Some info:

: : SunOS 5.3      Linux 0.99plv14

: : Sun complaints:

: : It complains that it is waiting for a response from the Linux NFS host.
: : I can access the same Linux directory from another Linux machine with
: : no problems while the Sun is having spasms.

: I have experienced the same problems with 2 diskelss sun4 NFS-mounting their
: FS. They say they don't get any answer from the Linux host. The way I found
: to solve hit is to kill -HUP nfsd, and the sun comes back to life.

: : We'll be upgrading Linux to 1.09 hopefully in the next week. Will that
: : fix it?  It's a paint to test since the problem wreaks havoc with the
: : Sun.  I've not tried this on the HP-9000/G50 for fear of the same problems.

: I had the problem with kernel 1.1.3x or so. I don't think upgrading will,
: but it won't hurt (pl14 is nearly one year old).

: : All this over wanting to have a common home directory. :-(

: : -------
: : James Knowles
: : [email-masked]      Je crois que je ne vais jamais voir...   /\/\
: : [email-masked]          Un animal si beau qu'un chat.           ( oo )
: : ....!uunet!spillman!jamesk                                         -----------

: --
: =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
: Nicolas BOUGUES
: [email-masked]
: Sysop of magix : ++ 33 (1) 45 21 02 52 (shell & uucp)

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (goran kezunovic)
Subject: identify in inetd.conf
Date: 5 Oct 1994 00:16:43 GMT

I was just wandering if there is such a thing for Linux like I saw in
SunOS 4.1.3 in inetd.conf:

ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/bin/identify ftp-ident -b -i /usr/etc/in.ftpd
telnet  stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/bin/identify telnet-ident -b -i /usr/etc/in.telnetd

I noticed that since sysadmin put that "identify" in there is more info about 
the user that does telnet or ftp to a host in /var/adm/messages
I also tried man pages but there weren't any.
So if anybody knows if there is such a thing for Linux and where to
get it please post it.

Thanx,

Kenzo

------------------------------

From: [email-masked] (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: LILO and BT445s
Date: 4 Oct 1994 16:28:08 GMT

Okay, I got the two to like each other.  Thanks to everyone who sent me (an
incredibly diverse myriad of) answers.

The solution for me was to a) make sure I was using a kernel >= 1.1.46 as
that's where changes were made to the partitioning tables that are *not*
backward compatible and b) make sure that I used a version of [c]fdisk
that's newer (so there's support for the new kernel shme) and actually had
it write out the partition table information even though I didn't change
any of the partitioning information (this was key, of course, to update the
tables).

After that everything worked just fine.  Note that I didn't have to change
anything on the board itself (like the wacko DOS > 1 GB jumper/switch) nor
doing any bizarre things to the driver itself, nor reconfigure LILO itself.

Thanks again,
                John

P.S.    The Plextor 4-Plex quad speed CD-ROM drive wasn't being recognized
        by the kernel because on that machine the BT445s is set to use
        I/O port 130 rather than 330 and the current driver doesn't support
        the use of that (and some other) address.  Sigh. [Digging through
        BusLogic's manuals for the fix now...]

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: [email-masked] (Peter Walker)
Subject: Tcsh and Linux... how does it work?
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 02:46:43 GMT

 Could  someone say what is required to get tcsh to correctly 
search its path environment when given a command .  i find that I have 
to give it the full path for commands eg /bin/ls, even though its 
path environment has correctly set. I tried both tcsh-6.05 and tcsh-6.04
and got the same behavior.

-- 
Best Regards

Peter
==================================================================

------------------------------

** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [email-masked]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.admin) via:

    Internet: [email-masked]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    nic.funet.fi				pub/OS/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu				pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu				pub/Linux

End of Linux-Admin Digest
******************************